How batteries will power the future - with The Faraday Institution

Why are batteries so important for our future? Find out from expert Professor Louis Piper of WMG, University of Warwick, and a Principal Investigator at the Faraday Institution.
The Faraday Institution is the UK’s independent institute for electrochemical energy storage research, skills development, market analysis, and early-stage commercialisation.
Bringing together expertise from universities and industry, the Faraday Institution endeavours to make the UK the go-to place for the research and development of new electrical storage technologies for both the automotive and wider relevant sectors.
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[@simon10000]

"Build once for a longer future." great quote. Thanks for the accessible and insightful overview.

[@evanwood2794]

Having done work with batteries, I find the focus on Li ion batteries to be a little confusing. I understand that they're important, but it's kind of old news. Why not cover some really new and interesting battery technology, like Li-S batteries and their benefits/limitations?

[@Ianjcarroll]

the ethical elements of Li mining is never discussed ?

[@sethburgess8211]

@@Ianjcarroll Certainly not good but doesnt mean the only way to extract lithium is the way we currently do it. Look at Tonopah pass in the US

[@RupertReynolds1962]

Li-S certainly looks interesting, but more immediately Na-ion looks good for home and city car batteries, maybe more.

[@levioliver3794]

Graphene Aluminum by GMG is VERY promising.

[@starseeddeluxe]

Lead acid batteries have NEVER been studied for how they actually furnish electrons. There have been at least some electrical engineers and physicists which have claimed enormous, exponential energy release from existing lead acid batteries. I worry that the cessation of lead acid batteries is a mistake, considering how easy it is to recycle them.

[@Satish-md1vm]

Wonderful research!

[@jemimabrennen2580]

Awesome, thank you Ri!

[@nickalicious44]

Lately, Sodium Ion Battery has been making the news. How promising is this considering we have abundant sources of sodium and cheaper. Would like to know more inputs frm experts.

[@levioliver3794]

The future will be the Graphene Aluminium Ion Batteries being developed by GMG. Massive advantages over Lithium

[@cptrikester2671]

Is this just an extended advertisement?

[@thekaxmax]

who is it advertising for, then?

[@SeanChristieMallon]

They said more or less nothing in this video

[@cptrikester2671]

@@thekaxmax advertising to eliminate the current power sources. You know, that 'global climate change problem'.

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

No, its University research

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

Nothing about reuse, toxins or waste, so pretty much a propaganda film.

[@maedilein6802]

I find your research interesting. No area has a monopoly on the search for storage. At least you're doing the research and trying to make it better. I also think batteries in clothing sounds intriguing.

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

Do you remember the story of University California Irvine of the student who discovered how to recharge a Lithium Ion Battery and never stops working? Funny how that story came and went. Just a miracle is all, get rid of her!

[@paulsun19]

what is the worldwide investment in battery research?

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

Nothing, it's all charged. Hahahahaha.

[@A3Kr0n]

How will batteries be able to keep up with exponential growth?

[@harveytheparaglidingchaser7039]

Every town should have a sand battery and district heating

[@timothy8426]

Don't put all your eggs in one basket, which means don't count on one energy source.

[@peteredwards2318]

Solid state when?

[@mozkitolife5437]

Misleading title. Very little was presented on the How.

[@jyvben1520]

ancient technology, for non mobile usage a gravity battery is the best

[@ElfProduct]

Why would a hydroelectric dam be better than Li-ion batteries? Building dams take massive upfront investment costs. Li-ion batteries better.

[@thekaxmax]

energy density of gravity sucks. When space is important, don't use gravity. Also, good gravity battery locations are rare.

[@quantumcat7673]

Great bravo! Now, shut up and produce them cause we need them NOW!

[@songsfromtheheart-timdowli3785]

How can you happily talk with a smile on your face when you know of the horrendous exploitation of child Labour and modern slavery involved in lithium mining

[@jasonburguess]

We need to stop focusing on battery weight! Batteries for stored renewable energy don't have a weight requirement, they can weigh millions of pounds and if that allows more storage no issue, only in mobile applications does power to weight ratio become an issue.

[@pat8988]

You seem to be thinking of stationary applications. Weight is very important for cars, phones, etc. Electric vehicles are already much heavier than IC vehicles, mainly due to battery weight.

[@jasonburguess]

Yes, stationary applications are the most important for addressing climate change, storing green power from solar, wind, geothermal etc is far more important than vehicles, also the biggest contributer to climate change is global shipping via actual ships on the ocean, which also dont have weight problems. Evs are important too, but more importantly is the power that they use and they need bigger stationary batteries to avoid using coal and natural gas to run the grids.​@pat8988

[@pressureswitch]

But it should matter, right? Setting aside the environmental impacts of battery production, you’re generally going to lose efficiency at larger and larger scales. So making the most efficient (and therefore lightest) battery will allow us to scale to larger and larger applications.

[@freeheeler09]

I’m extremely disappointed in the glacially slow progress on home storage batteries Chinese company is selling a 30 kWh EV for $12,000. Yet a Tesla Powerwall, with about 1/3rd the capacity of the Chinese car, costs the same! I’m trying to go off grid. Batteries cost $1,100 per kWh before installation. To really disrupt and ger away from fossil fuels, we need affordable batteries!

[@cptrikester2671]

What are they going to do about the terrible conditions for the people that are extracting the basic materials from the ground?

[@Don19762]

Nothing.

[@timothybayliss6680]

Anything being done about the neurotoxic tailings ponds and environmental destruction from the mining operations?

[@bokononbokomaru8156]

Sodium ion batteries would solve many issues & have positive benefits as well

[@thekaxmax]

most lithium mining is in Australia, and the conditions are fine. Other places, it's improving.

[@RupertReynolds1962]

Cobalt is a major concern when used in large quantities, whether for refining fossil fuels or making Li-ion cells. Thankfully, I read that its use in Li-ion (such as NMC) is already dropping. Nasty stuff.

[@Rach1941]

Lithium ion batteries are a scourge. Updates on promising replacement technologies would be more interesting.

[@EASYTIGER10]

I wonder if people watching this video in 50 years will smile at how huge and clunky and inefficient batteries were back in 2024 :)

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

If we go back to nukes yes.

[@vturiserra]

I've always thought that Britons pronounce "twenty" and Americans pronounce "tweny", but at 0:40 he uses both pronounciations and says "in tweny twenty". Could an English teacher (or somebody that knows the answer) explain that?

[@thekaxmax]

he talks to Americans a lot and uses both pronunciations.

[@vturiserra]

@@thekaxmax Thanks.

[@TheMonkeydood]

Actually we brits use both twenty and twenny for 20. As in twenny pound note.

[@vturiserra]

@@TheMonkeydood Thanks.

[@fburton8]

@@TheMonkeydoodSome do, yes, but some (like me) only say twenty.

[@stephenbrickwood1602]

All Grid supplied electricity is a dead duck. Electricity is only 20% of our energy use. BUT grid construction costs are astronomical. Existing national grid is equal to the nation's GDP. 100years to build. This is the economic elephant in the room. 5 times more electricity is needed to replace high energy fossil fuels. 5 times bigger national electric grid capacity is insanely uneconomic. Dispersed generation and storage has no grid costs. Each home with an EV plugged in at night can go offgrid. Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day. 7kwh daily is ezi pezi to top up. Most vehicles drive building to building. All EVs, robotic vacuum cleaner and robotic lawnmower will selfplug-in. Simple wall plug to trickle charge, control by EVs computer. Rapid charging will be on the main roads and at corner stores.

[@EARN-750-DAILY_JOB_FOR_U]

"In my experience, there is only one motivation, and that is desire. No reasons or principle contain it or stand against it." -Jane Smiley

[@Pedro8k]

Until we get a new safe battery that can be quickly recharged and lasts a decent amount of time the whole electric car industry is pointless and unsafe at present

[@mariusvanc]

Using li ion batteries for grid storage is a horrific waste. This is just a grift.

[@danielcarroll3358]

Of what? You would just throw the energy away?

[@mariusvanc]

@@danielcarroll3358Ah yes, because only li ion batteries exist to store energy. It's a waste of resources (and money), because li-ion batteries are very well suited to niche applications for which there is now A LOT of demand for. Grid storage does not operate with the same constraints as a phone or an EV, and li-ion batteries are ill-suited for grid storage. It's the wrong tool for the job.

[@RockHudrock]

How do we solve the problems of batteries catching fire 🔥 and not working in the winter 🥶? It seems like Hydrogen / fuel cell technology will be a better solution long-term.

[@0ned]

Teslas wouldn't even charge last week.

[@0ned]

Check out the Joe cell: hint, it's protons, not orgone.

[@0ned]

If anyone's interested in a genuine Reichian orgone motor, it's a DC Pulse motor, neither DC nor AC. Roberto Maglione published most current info. The Correa's orgone motor could barely tow a toy truck, and they squandered their popular support attacking James DeMeo. Genuine orgonomic literature focuses on publishing information accessible to laypeople and the Correas only published highly technical and esoteric math.

[@gitmoholliday5764]

will a hydrogen fuel cell work nevermind if it is winter ?

[@LisaSamaritan]

Hydrogen is extremely flammable and explosive... Ever heard about a hydrogen bomb? That's a nuclear weapon with a football sized canister of hydrogen and it is a lot more powerful than only using weapons grade plutonium.

[@SolaceEasy]

Huge reliance on batteries is a passing fad. Any system reliant on batteries is wasting energy and is not as efficient as plugging straight in.

[@danielcarroll3358]

That's wonderful if you can use the energy when it is produced. Batteries and other energy storage such as pumped hydro help solve the "duck curve" problem. Look it up.

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

You'd better alert the world energy experts before they go down this road

[@donc-m4900]

Nukes/s

[@neo5kali]

Then everything fails in cold weather.

[@donc-m4900]

Then use your heat pump to warm, wait...🥶

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

Seems to work fine in places like Norway, Sweden etc. Sh*t happens, nothing is perfect

[@daveac]

All good - but he didn't mention safety - making batteries safer! aka a recent electric bus bursting into flames and fires from electric bikes left charging overnight etc.

[@wendyg8536]

Discovering that the battery in my comp has been literally off gassing and poisoning me.. causing constant dry cough. .I have found that there is a condition named Metal Fume Fever, the exposure symptoms which present similar to a virus, cough white lung sudden death !! Data suggests we consume a credit card of plastic a week !.. but how much of this is gas....as another similar condition is off gassing of PTFE also used in electronics but also in so many things now in contemporary industry 3d printing even heart stents ..that may have been banned in the past for their fluorocarbons..inflicting Teflon Flu, Polymer Fume Fever. They say these things off gas over certain temperatures..but I suspect that maybe long term exposure of minor levels and temps could also be harmful. .as I have experienced. With the amount as many as 7000 EV battery fires in China every week, has no one considered that possibly pollution is playing a role alongside by "fume fever" to the pandemic !?.. ..these gasses eventually circling the globe. Is industry neglecting things somewhere. .as it's not working out well for customers health and the environment is it.

[@cambridgemart2075]

Metal fume fever, AKA zinc fever, requires raising metals to the boiling point; that's never going to happen in a computer battery. PTFE does offgas, but only when heated to over 400C, something that became apparent when HMS Sheffield caught fire after a missile strike.

[@wendyg8536]

@@cambridgemart2075 yeah nah.. well..thats total BS rubbish !..because I 'can' smell when my phone and laptop is charging. .and it's the batteries. These things 'offgas' at much much lower temps than said..a lot less !! .it is subtle yet insidious. .and it is not a sudden exposure but compounded over some time and given ventilation. These things are toxic in our environment...given time it will be exposed. .

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

Remember the story of University California Irvine of the student who discovered how to recharge a Lithium Ion Battery and it never stops working? Funny how that story came and went. Just a miracle is all, get rid of her!

[@michaelmyrick6973]

bismuth ferrite and other things not storage 😂

[@Stephen_Strange]

Why would our needs be so large in 2030. An estimation is based on guesswork of circumstances controlled by the establishment, and therefore can be changed if there was a more peaceful global agenda.

[@tootallsoloman248]

Batteries are not going to "power" anything. They're a storage device; not a power generation device. So, um, this is a science channel right?

[@levioliver3794]

When you release that stored energy, it will power things. What are you talking about?! 😂

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

Nothing about reuse or waste or toxic damage. So it's a propaganda film?