How Can an INFP Woman gain power and Authority within the relationship? | CS Joseph Responds

[@sharpiesarecool814]

I think Joseph in the Bible is also INFP. He was so great because Jacob educated him. He was taught and read Egyptian. Despite the misfortune of being sold off to Egypt by his brothers, the education he had in childhood aided him greatly in his journey in life.

[@CSJoseph]

Yes

[@nawarmehjabin5533]

the male ego is the most fragile thing on earth

[@normalman5796]

Too much of a generalized statement, perhaps taken from personal experience?

[@hamidousy5460]

You're ignorant. Go away.

[@nawarmehjabin5533]

@@normalman5796 If the general consensus is that a man requires total submission from his woman, then the general conclusion is that his fragile ego can't handle otherwise Basic deduction, nothing personal :')

[@marty2090]

Wax your stache.

[@JungINFJ]

Chase is talking about polarity between sexes and not ego. He's telling women how to be more attractive to the masculine. Just like a man is more attractive to the feminine when they lead.

[@tomwright9904]

Ugh. I don't like this strong gender role stuff and I feel it takes away from the other stuff. I feel like this isn't a science... more a useful and worked through philosophy... but when you add strong gender roles to a protoscience it becomes kind cult like. Do I think it's right. I mean maybe assuming type an infp will probably be with a type with Se and then the observation/action split makes sense... but what about all the male infps?

[@sylviaowega3839]

I submitted to my father because I had no choice. My dad was extremely strict, yelled a lot and did a fair amount of spanking, which was very intimidating for a hyper sensitive INTP. For me being spanked was very in dignifying. This is the reason why a married so late. I didn’t want to be married to a man that would force me to submit and bend the knee, and most being subject to being changed and have my sense of autonomy being taken away. I wanted to be marred to a man whom I can truly trust, especially knowing the man is physically stronger than me, and that he likely has more social prestige.

[@orchid8235]

I’m so sorry you ever had to face that B.S, you deserve so much better

[@sylviaowega3839]

@@orchid8235Thanks. That is what happened when one is surrounded with too many NJ’s.

[@jackieschesnuk6669]

So… stating that women should read some ‘non-fiction books’ has a bit of a hypocrisy to it coming from someone who quotes the bible a lot. Butttt this’ll probably just get dismissed as me being ‘combative’ or ‘angry’ or whatever word wants to be used because my intuition can see an inconsistency. Question though: Men do have great decision making skills, but why can’t they seem to get out of their own way(pride/ego) sometimes?

[@CSJoseph]

You aren’t wrong, there are some parts of the Bible that are fictional. Anything that came from “Biblical interpolation” is fictional

[@photosky14]

@@CSJoseph Please Mr. Joseph can you recommend a book about bible fictional parts, I would love to educate myself on christianity more. But there are many bullshit out there.

[@phillyjam2018]

I agree with you to a certain extent. If the husband is demanding something completely wrong u can try to use your feminine energy but sometimes the man is so messed up that she ends up dead either way. Just look at the story of the wife of the Pharoah, she was said to be an extremely wise and beautiful obedient woman one of the most amazing women of all time but she still ended up being killed by her husband. At the end of the day god is above everything even above your husband, and sometimes you will be killed despite your efforts it's just life. Lol but yes most men aren't close to the Pharoah so feminine energy does work 99 percent of the time if the guy isn't a psychopath

[@isabelle2717]

Well, I don't think it's really that hard for INFP women to act in the way you described if we're with our compatible types which are naturally masculine. Looking at my relationship with an ENTJ, I let him lead most of the time, not because it's my duty, but simply because I can see how firm and responsible he is walking around with his calendar and excel sheets. Plus I enjoy the advisor's role better anyway. Why use words like "submissive" or "secondary", though? This kind of vocabulary is diminishing and implies that woman's input into a relationship is less valuable than her man's.

[@jackieschesnuk6669]

I as well have always been perplexed by the need for the word ‘submission’ and then it hit me… people that use the word ‘authority’ or ‘submission’ are looking for a hierarchy dynamic where things stay the same. Where as people who use the word ‘receptive’ or ‘cooperative’ are looking for a dynamic that is creative and exploratory. One is stagnation, the other is growth. There’s ‘Spinning your wheels’ or ‘growing in the same garden’.

[@CSJoseph]

Her feelings are far more important than her man’s though…

[@annethepaladin3235]

I get what you mean. The story can get clouded by what seems as value judgement. It probably has to do with how we are conditioned to view these topics. I think in history there were plenty of men that actually thought women to be inferior and then feminism fought against that (and so stayed within that narrative). Now we are really talking about differences between the genders, qualities and weaknesses of both. Who is ultimately the best has nothing to do with it. Men have better judgement and women are better at other stuff. It's up to us to decide that judgement isn't the pinnacle of value (or that it is)

[@bridgetpurifoy2552]

Submission does not mean being lesser/weaker position. Think about how Jesus was submitted to the Father God. Submission is a very powerful position to put yourself into. It's basically a point of self-control, of meekness not weakness. INFP-A

[@wintanawelday3228]

⁠@@bridgetpurifoy2552 depends on who tells the story and the how probably also shifts the “tone”

[@aladdout9454]

What about men who don't respect the woman's input or perception powers cuz she's not making decisions? cuz as someone from a fairly traditional society, we have a lot of those shitlings here. It leads to verbal, emotional abuse to the woman and eventually makes them feel unloved/unworthy. It's a big problem. My father is like that to my mom. I really do resent him when it comes to their dynamic.

[@loisrabies8713]

Those are narcissists. Men who want and wish for women to submit to them are narcs.

[@rpoutine3271]

These men don't honor their wives and don't love them either, this is very sinful. It is normal to resent your father for what he does to your mother, it is despicable.

[@dovio832]

​@@loisrabies8713 damn bro . Why does yall have to demonised everything like mf can't wish too have an fanclub now ?Plus in reality the people's that are outthere calling everybody and everything narcissistic or psycho ect... have too check themselves and read the actual definitions of the words .

[@loisrabies8713]

@@dovio832 so you want to disrespect women? They don’t respect anyone and are only out for themselves. Not all men just the kind that was mentioned in this thread

[@dovio832]

​@@loisrabies8713 my point was that not that (also it was slightly a joke cause many people dramatize those things ) . When you get robbed that not the fault of the robber; that your fault ! Even though you did nothing wrong and is unfair and all, a robber is going too be a robber , your the one with a trash security or didn't pay attention ect... this example is too demonstrated that even when you find the worst kind of people imaginable is still is your fault for enabling this bad behaviour too "reoccur ". As they say :fool me once shame on you , fool me twice shame on me .

[@heatherhafer3333]

Very interesting talk. I liked it. Thanks for the book recommendations. -an INFP

[@randomcole619]

He’s not giving you what you want, you are accepting what he is deciding to give you. It’s the story of the Taming of the Shrew, once she agreed with everything he said, the marriage was saved🤦🏻‍♀️ I don’t think I can be convinced that this is a healthy way to live.

[@Bleepbloop144]

The man is the head, and the woman turns the head with her knowledge and intuition

[@perlamargarita8040]

Submitting? No. Never met a man smarter than me or harder working. It doesn't matter now that I'm in my 60s. I made my life on my intelligence and the scholarship I earned for college, raised my children, made my own money and am getting ready to retire. My stars made me the alpha being in my life, second only to my Dad, to whom I was duly submissive because I was a child.

[@photosky14]

R u happy?

[@perlamargarita8040]

@@photosky14 Yes. My mind is my most finely developed tool and the gift for which I am most grateful... It has allowed me to fly as far and fast as I have ever desired, and allowed me to resculpt my knowledge as a teacher. Living that freedom and achievement is like the quote from "Chariots of fire" "God made me fast and when I run, I feel his pleasure." That is great happiness.

[@FFakiha]

What kind of men have you met throughout your life?

[@photosky14]

@@perlamargarita8040 If you feel happy, that is the most important. Happiness comes in different forms, but don't you miss someone by your side, are you looking for a man, or that is something you gave up on, was your father your ideal? Could you submit to someone like your father, don't you think that a man also is submitting in some shape or form by choosing you and sticking by your side meaning it's worth submitting.

[@hnr9lt-pz7bn]

​@@perlamargarita8040 Do you feel loved? Happiness never been a women's objectives..

[@denise0815]

Not even sure what my type is, but this is gold! Thanks for sharing!

[@Nerdylady]

Esther was a prisoner for the rest of her life in the enemy’s castle after she saved her people (according to the Jewish tradition). I’m an INTP and submissive, still waiting for my ENTJ king. Will check out the books you recommended.

[@sylviaowega3839]

I’m an INTP, and refuse to bend the knee to any man. The Bible is man made designed to control human civilization. Free will is also a mere delusion.

[@GetYossedLol]

"Authority" doesn't really make sense in a monogamous relationship. Authority is when you're on top of a hierarchy of people, when you're more important than them and can call the shots because they are disposable and you're not. Authority over 1 person makes zero sense because there is no hierarchy with 2 people.

[@hnr9lt-pz7bn]

There's always leader and follower in relationship that minimum consist of two person.

[@GetYossedLol]

@@hnr9lt-pz7bn The woman always contributes something, she isn't someone who just follows around. There is no authority among 2 people because they both need each other for their roles

[@zahrazar9974]

If I submit to a man will he do the things you said? What if he didn't? This would be a very big loss. And if I still live with my family, is it necessary to tell my needs and feelings to my father for a better relationship with him?

[@saradwyer2451]

Love ur perspective on this it’s so unique and eye-opening….an INFP female

[@RaffertyMBTI]

15:36 what strategies, though? What could she have done?

[@boooie]

what can an INFP do to prevent cheating? it terrifes me that id do that

[@lanalvr2413]

Yasssz infp girl video let’s go

[@imane8753]

Thank you very much for this one !👍🌸💯

[@loisrabies8713]

Lmao wow……I’ll just put down that I’m disagreeing but not going to explain why because it is too tiring. Also these ideas are based on assumptions from both women and men. Not to mention that line of gender is faded and also consideration of same sex relationships and that is another convo I’m not getting into.

[@pinklasagna8328]

Line of gender is not faded Same sex psychology is different

[@loisrabies8713]

@@pinklasagna8328 so no one is androgynous in personality?

[@pinklasagna8328]

@@loisrabies8713 by androgynous in personality you mean having both masculine and feminine traits in personality? Everyone is like that and everyone has been like that since ever. But having a feminine personality does not make you a women and vice versa. I dont understand why you think the line of gender is faded and then pulling personality as an argument. There is more to gender than personality and more to personality than gender. For cases of gender dysphoria, its an exception to majority of people. Exceptions exist in every biological category (category being the mankind here)

[@loisrabies8713]

@@pinklasagna8328 this is a personality video…

[@loisrabies8713]

@Moondust oh? Pray tell. Btw these are all subjective videos, not based on facts.

[@pinklasagna8328]

My infp ex friend dated a wonderful enfj boy. She later dumped him (enfj still has no clue that ever happened) for a more alpha guy. He dumped her too because he is a bit crazy but can see through bs. The infp women crawled back to the enfj guy and he accepted. he is now some teirs below my friendship hierarchy (basically i am disloyal towards him now, i am an infp too) because his Te demon ignored my advice.

[@aladdout9454]

lol I hope the friendship between u two repairs... I have an infp friend who had a shitty relationship and told her countless times he's abusive but didnt listen. Still my bestie. But if he's some weirdo super nice guy who indirectly puts burden on others for having to protect his feelings, thats understandable why u wont want him up again.

[@Andreabay90]

"he is now some tiers below my friendship hierarchy" lmao. weird sentence.

[@Susana-yg6hk]

@@Andreabay90 fr

[@pinklasagna8328]

@Moondust Te is relevent to NFs since power and morals behind power are something NFs seek. Te demon is part of the enfj problem since it makes enfjs arrogant. They don't listen to anyone and underestimate how nerfed they are because of si trickster.

[@hnr9lt-pz7bn]

​@Moondust Correct.

[@sushibaby9675]

I've read the book, and it is not mentioned Astin had to be naked, it is written: 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven chamberlains that served in the presence of Ahasuerus the king, 1:11 To bring Vashti the queen before the king with the crown royal, to shew the people and the princes her beauty: for she was fair to look on. So it really seems she acted moody. But do you mean here that Astin was an INFP? Happy you're back with videos on the xNFPs. 🙂 Only C S, why do you smile so little lately on those videos?

[@SS-bu8ez]

Didn't Esther later get imprisoned? Basically the Greeks would have done Persia a favour if they killed King Xerxes.

[@CSJoseph]

No

[@RaffertyMBTI]

do you use cologne? or not because of cancer causing chemicals?

[@jordanEmp]

The sound of your breathing is splendid.

[@oflameo8927]

I am far more evil than King Xerxes. I would have ignored my advisors and said that we were officially a Blue Pill Kingdom and then laugh at the hen pecked 🐔plebeians. Vashti would have one of the first dominatrices in history and she would have been full of Ishtar Energy.

[@RaffertyMBTI]

10:47 ENFP's have cognitive origin justification though? So what's going on here with INFP's?

[@bananewane1402]

This all falls apart the moment you step outside your tiny little box and consider queer relationships

[@zahrazar9974]

What was Xerxes type?

[@GetYossedLol]

Sounds like an ENTJ.

[@SS-bu8ez]

He sounds like a SP type

[@pelc121]

You are truly doing Gods work, changing so many lives thank you so much! The wisdom in this video. Finding a man worthy of submitting to is the hard part

[@melino9709]

I relate more to RUTH my names is ruth and I'm an infp,never had a problem with submission.

[@melino9709]

Please add your books to the library

[@Infinity_Playhouse]

Hello cs joseph Can you tell us how we can accept our shadow and become complete ? Ty

[@cacorn982]

How would she have had better input? You're not suppose to manipulate for outcomes regarding being triple outcome? Persuading by being playfully flirty? Giving two outcomes (this or that.) I need to re listen to this 4 more times. Edit: Okay so I think I understand how she could have went about "turning the head" to not get thrown out of the castle." I feel embarrassed about....shy etc etc... Thanks for the video Chase very helpful!

[@loisrabies8713]

I don’t know what the triple outcome thing is about.

[@cacorn982]

@@loisrabies8713 A final product, end result or consequence. Getting from one place to another.

[@loisrabies8713]

@@cacorn982 ty

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

why do infp women need to gain power in relationship? have power in other aspects of their life, why relationship too?

[@rpoutine3271]

This idea that women are supposed to submit comes from the Bible, but in that same bible it says that both should submit to one another in some sort of mutual relationship. Never does it says that men should practice authority and have all the power over their wives, instead they are ordered to love their wives and to honor them (meaning giving respect), you don't do that by ordering them around as if they are dogs. The husband is simply supposed to be a leader, like in a team, not like a tyranical king over his serfs.

[@jackieschesnuk6669]

@@rpoutine3271 🎉 Thank you. This is often so forgotten and the wife being submissive to the husband the only thing that’s highlighted. No one wants to blindly submit while the other lives in a world of self-indulgent power trip. ‘Submit’ tends to have an aura of disrespect to it when one contemplates being the one submitting. Just ask men if they’d like to submit (to anyone!). General rule: If you wouldn’t be the person on the other end of the dynamic, why would anyone else want to be in that dynamic?

[@hnr9lt-pz7bn]

​@@jackieschesnuk6669 Islam actuality mean submission, yet it don't tolerate meekness.

[@Ebertfly]

Hey I love the channel, but I have some concerns with where all this is going. It isn't hard for me to imagine us all living in some version of the Handmaid's Tale or an ultra-strict religious caliphate if we follow this all the way through. Is living under an ultra-repressive extreme of conservatism and an ultra-patriarchal society in reaction to the excesses of modern liberalism worth the cost? I hope that's not actually your intent here, but it is a concern that I have. People currently engaged in the pushback against feminism and the championing of figures such as Andrew Tate might say, "that's not what we're calling for", but are you sure? There's a bigger cultural battle going on here and well-intentioned people are often used by shady forces to bring about dramatic cultural changes not in their interests. It would have been extremely difficult, for instance, for the residents of early 1970s Iran to believe that, by 1979, their modern, Westernised country would have been overtaken by regressive religious extremists - but it happened. This is somewhat predictable, as we can never seem to achieve a happy medium in society, and appear constantly stuck in this cycle: "extreme conservatism is bad, so we have to have extreme liberalism... extreme liberalism which is bad, so we have to have extreme conservatism". The failures of the women's liberation movement to maximize women's happiness and fulfillment certainly deserve acknowledgement and study, but these failures should not be used as a justification to catapult us back the other way and into some sort of extremist repressive caliphate.

[@CSJoseph]

Read “Women deserve less” by Myron Gains

[@Ebertfly]

You know what's motivating me to bench press 300 lbs by the end of the year? These degenerate, misogynistic bullying scum like Myron. I wouldn't want anyone like this near my daughter.

[@nourbennacer969]

If Si have the cognitive origin of Justification what is Te and Ne Cognitive origin ?

[@A.J.Breadman]

Ne/Si share Justification and Satisfaction. Te/Fi Share Authority and Purpose. If you want more get the ego hacking by text mastercalss

[@cynthiajuma9006]

Te is respect

[@rimasoosamir8167]

Now that's a topic I like

[@webnovelduaenam]

youtube is bugged, my comment didnt get posted, whatever.

[@katiemckenzie2425]

I started irresistibly feminine. Some of it feels extreme and hard. It feels like reverting back to a child as a woman 😬 Idk.....

[@klarayuzyuz]

Power ? In submission ? Lol no.

[@dxfifa]

You are quite brainless. Submission is the ultimate power because it is a choice. Dominance does not exist without submission. The submissive can always revoke their submission at any point. The dominant cannot enforce submission on anyone. Even if the dominant is able to force the submissive to obey, that is obedience, not submission, without the consent. Submission is power in a fully consensual relationship because you can just think "No i do not agree and I won't do what you want" and you've taken all the dominant's power away. You don't even have to say it

[@melino9709]

I have never cheated in my life I can count my sexual partners with one hand sometimes I question if I’m an INFP

[@superXfairXgirl]

We are not the worst type. When I stopped, I had about 10 partners at 23, my intj - also female - friend was around 60 at 21. 10 is already way too much, but we infps are definitely below njs or esps.

[@rpoutine3271]

@@superXfairXgirl What? That is very bad.

[@superXfairXgirl]

@@rpoutine3271 What is bad ? 10 or 60 ? Also, I live in Western Europe, it is not unusual that young women have high body counts. There is almost no Christianity there, and the few woman who are still virgins or with a low body count are - in general - either Muslim or extremely introverted and/or depressed. The only reason I stopped doing the thing is because I found Jesus and he changed me deeply, but born again people are super rare there and I really NEED to get married.

[@rpoutine3271]

@@superXfairXgirl Both are bad, one is just worse than the other. The higher the body count, the more unlikely the woman would be able to have a lifetime relationship (Well it is the same thing with men) and relationships of quality. This is extremely bad at a civilizational scale. I think love is a choice, not a feeling. What do you think?

[@bananewane1402]

No this guy just spouts bs about body counts to keep his viewers engaged

[@malakashraf2801]

Sounds about right , unfortunately I need to learn how to plot 🙁

[@estoryaniinin1510]

I like Queen Esther. 💕 Thank you for information. 💕💕💕

[@Amrrkevin]

Write some blogs dude. ChatGpt not answering these kind of questions

[@CSJoseph]

I am curious as to what you mean. Please contact me on Discord or email me at [e-mail]

[@Amrrkevin]

@@CSJoseph I hope u know about ChatGpt. It's an AI powered tool. Currently it's only analyze web pages and answers our queries. For example it can summarize any book u wanted. Since it can't analyze KZbin videos. It's not able to answer any questions related to these deep subjects.

[@CSJoseph]

I would rather have people come here

[@jaredvaughan1665]

Great video

[@hnr9lt-pz7bn]

But isn't an infp actually an INFJ after 4 years of learning? 🤔🤔

[@lenaartwork506]

Great ❤🎉

[@rachelmartina1851]

INFP Female: A stupid person who can't think for herself so she needs someone to help her. Am I right? Stupid = kind hearted person -INFP 5w4 Sarcasm is my second language tho 🥰

[@aur.sanne77]

im ded

[@oflameo8927]

I guess INTJ men don't need women because our perception is top tier, if and only if, we keep training.

[@malakashraf2801]

Heh?

[@photosky14]

🌷