How Catelyn Stark became Lady Stoneheart (Game of Thrones)

Catelyn's resurrection and transformation into Lady Stoneheart
explained from Game of Thrones / A Song of Ice and Fire
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[@Lalvon_Zelpharr]

I really wish we got to see lady stoneheart on the show, Michelle Fairley did a amazing job as Catelyn Stark

[@s_shaddows.4939]

Lalvon Zelpharr they were t lazy if George had full control and unlimited money imagine what this should could have been there could have been 50 seasons lol

[@Brandonhayhew]

D&D ever mention to Martin about the budget problems

[@melanatedqueen6662]

@P Muller citation please. Please cite your source. I’m tired of folks putting words in GRRM’s mouth. Please post proof that he said that.

[@Warmaker01]

Judging the way the show handled many characters, plot points, I'd say they'd hurry and fuck up Lady Stoneheart's story arc. They even fucked up Tyrion, FFS.

[@O.G.H.]

@@cybele_mullejz That's weird, I heard from somewhere that George regrets the LS story, because her plot follow an unsatisfying end for her character. I mean what is she suppose to do after killing everyone that had their part in the RW? Just go back to the river? Become queen of the North? Continuing the leadership of TBWB? I can't come up with a reasonable plot for her tbh

[@wweskywalker]

It would be so satisfying seeing all these Boltons, Freys, and Lannister gasping and being terrified of the very woman they killed.

[@mansamusa8410]

Veronica Stark it's funny the boltons freys and Lannisters are all dead

[@redblueproductions9739]

@@mansamusa8410 The fuck are you talking about?

[@albanianvalor]

Lutteo Forever this ain’t the shitty tv show

[@thomy1955]

@@mansamusa8410 and even in the show Tyrion didn't die

[@Brandonhayhew]

LittleFinger if he meets Lady Stoneheart

[@diegoprodriguez]

Well, I think the reason Catelyn doesn’t want to find her kids is because she’s aware that she’s not Catelyn anymore. I don’t think that she wants her kids to see the monster she’s become.

[@GoldenRose116]

But didnt she also think that all her children, safe for Sansa, where death

[@dakotasherman632]

@@GoldenRose116 Yeah, as far as she knows, everyone except maybe Sansa is dead, and that Sansa is married to Tyrion, who she also hates

[@Rollno-sz7kb]

In the Books, 🐺🐺 Nymeria finds lady Catelyn stark's body in river, Nymeria drags her to the shore and tries to wake her, but realizes she is dead. She flees when she sees men approaching.

[@claudi7794]

i figured it was bc trying to save her children is what got her dead in the first place, but your reason makes more sense than mine

[@janvancura8412]

Two of her living children are becaming demons and the last one does not have far from that

[@dominickschrute3084]

Interesting how Catelyn Stark is a symbol of the ideal wife and ideal mother, but these values wouldn't drive her to love Jon Snow and were driving factors in why she captured Tyrion. Game of Thrones is filled with people who's admirable but limited value structures force them to fall short, chief among them Ned and Catelyn Stark.

[@willl676]

I always interpreted Ned as being less of falling short, but instead a tale of a man who values what he believes in more than his own life. The only moment he cedes is when Varys appeals to his feelings regarding his family, which seems to show Ned valued it even more than his own beliefs.

[@kkandsims4612]

willl676 could not have said it better ned lies to only save his daughter at that point he’s like fuck all this he truly one gave a shit about his family but his duty made him Leave I think if he could have a redo he would have stayed with catelyn Michelle’s performance as crying grieving catelyn when he says bye to her and she’s gotta stop acting crazy is gut punch like it gets me every time he walks outta the room and she just sobs like ned truly did not want to fuck with any of it if he could he would have stayed right by her so I don’t think he fell short .

[@kyrahandford9831]

She wasn't that great of a mother

[@MrMarinus18]

Everyone focuses on the capturing of Tyrion but to me that's the absolute least of it. If she had just captured him they could have led it slide. But she tortured him without any mercy or any lingering regrets. When Jamie was given her sass I felt she more than deserved it.

[@PrepucioJudeu]

... and stupid enough to believe in every word that littlefinger says.

[@haydenrodriguez4670]

I’m forever sad that Lady Stoneheart didn’t make an appearance in the show. Would’ve made it interesting.

[@Simplefng]

I mean we got 20 ish side stories. All ditched for D&D incompetentance.

[@Kakuretaka]

While Arya killing house Frey as a faceless assassin was good and the speech about leaving wolves alive the sheep never being safe and that winter came for house Frey was great. I would have liked to have seen an episode with a horror theme. House Frey offred bread and salt to guests a old tradition breaking that tradition and killing your guests would have angred the old gods and raised Catlyn from the dead to seek vengence for both disrespect to guests and killing her son. You could have had a few men vanish in the night their bodies bitten and ripped open. Later a few sons or daughters of Frey found dead making the others fear for their lives. Scenes of hearing ragged breathing out side chamber doors or dark halls. Food rotting before the eyes of those ready to eat. And by the end we find out why, Winter has come but not by a girl but from the cold chilling embrace of the grave. A woman who should have been warmed and welcome but was murdered. House Frey cursed them selves and that curse is Catlyn Stark and her hunger for vengence will be saited only by the flesh of those who wronged her. Just a little idea... 10 years to late

[@francisabellana445]

I always felt like something was not right with Caitlyn Stark that her character isn't complete taking Tyrion as captive, letting Jaime go all of that for nothing she died for nothing it only makes sense that she is brought back her story was not complete

[@cheriealicent9981]

I love Catelyn. I know she gets a lot of shit by the fandom, but she's always been so real and complex to me. Her storyline is so tragic.

[@nicossbots]

every female in this series gets a lot of shit - even extremely innocent women like princess shireen or gilly etc..why is that?

[@salmonhauser7803]

@@nicossbots What are you implying?

[@JeffPenaify]

Who shits on Catelyn?? I read the books years before the show came out so I didnt really follow the show, Catelyn was the hardest death for me I literally sobbed without breath after throwing the fucking book across the room. Never had a character in a book do that to me.

[@davyk515]

@@JeffPenaify people didnt like her because she didnt like john

[@JeffPenaify]

@@davyk515 she had every reason not to like Jon 😂 even them she stayed in her lane and was more forgiving than most Westerosi lady's concerning her husband's bastard son.

[@Mellow_Dusk]

Other than Dorne, bastards are not seen in any positive light. Her anger toward jon is definitely misplaced, but Idk that her not knowing actual Jons parentage makes her “not bright”. Almost no one else knew.

[@dlr_rosa254]

True, I don't understand why Ned didn't just tell her the truth

[@rosemariewilliams16]

dlr _rosa I think if Ned did tell her, she would have treated Jon kindly. Then if someone commented on it, she may have reacted by exposing the secret.

[@aceclover758]

Cuz she would’ve told Littlefinger.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

dlr _rosa Inhumanly awful writing on the part of D&D. If the same reveal is made in the book I’m sure George RR Martin will explain it better.

[@micaelaproano7341]

dlr _rosa Cause then the lie wouldn't have been convincing, since Catelyn would've been nice to Jon which would've raised suspicion

[@muflon8342]

"Cat wasn't the brightest character" ... "Ned himself wasn't the brightest either" 😅 touchè

[@annoyed707]

One does not simply walk into genius.

[@teamblack204]

This was the stupidest interpret of Catelyn and Ned. This dude must be a Lannister fan or something

[@mpt3245]

@@teamblack204 It's not wrong though, and the Lannister's can be pretty stupid too.

[@teamblack204]

@@mpt3245 It is utterly wrong, though. Just because she made a few stupid mistakes doesn't make her a stupid person. Tywin made stupid things too, Tyrion made stupid things too and rest of the characters did stupid things too, but this doesn't make them stupid at all.

[@mpt3245]

@@teamblack204 Saying that Catelyn and Ned 'aren't the brightest characters' is absolutely correct (nobody said that they're stupid, that was your assumption) because they made idiotic decisions that lead to the War of the 5 Kings and their deaths - therefore meaning that they can't be the cleverest characters in the series.

[@erlendkaarb2038]

Jaime and Stonehearts meeting is the greatest cliffhanger since if you think about it, Jaime has no chance in arguing against: Bran's fall, attacking Ned, desert the Kinsguard, or force Edmure to surrender Riverrun (Tom of Sevenstrings heard his threats) In April Martin said that the writing of the Winds of Winter has gone well. And he has joked that if he isn't done until Worldcon 2020 then he will be imprisoned at White Island until he is done.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

Jaime: I am being honest, I'm no longer that man, I did the things I did because I had no choice! The Tullys: I missed the part where that's my problem!

[@joshuaortiz5141]

2022 “well Martin where the hell is that book?”

[@admiralmeow3161]

he hasnt released the next book because hes imprisoned at white island

[@t-rexcellentreviews1663]

Whether the readers like it or not, Jaime has done enough things to earn getting hanged by Stoneheart.

[@erlendkaarb2038]

@@t-rexcellentreviews1663 Things like that doesn't happen in Asoiaf. So that confrontation is going to be EPIC!

[@edwardklein3093]

I'm glad Lady Stoneheart didn't make an appearance in the show cause D&D would've kinda forgotten not to fuck up her story.

[@saifuldude]

Ned: family is everything Also ned : never ask me about Jon

[@KTChamberlain]

In Avatar: The Last Airbender, the bloodbender Hama is a lot like Lady Stoneheart. After having escaped her imprisonment in the Fire Nation, Hama resided inside the Fire Nation, disguised as a citizen, and during each full moon would imprison Fire Nation inhabitants through her use of bloodbending and leave them to rot in a cave. If the Avatar series was adult oriented like A Song of Ice and Fire, no doubt Hama would have also been called Mother Merciless, the Hangwoman, and the Silent Sister. Plus, you could argue that Hama died inside when she was imprisoned, and when she discovered Bloodbeding it was like a foreign fire ignited inside her like the foreign fire that turned Catelyn Stark into a fire wight, even though she was a worshiper of the New Gods, not R'hllor.

[@amandabechtold8030]

I completely forgot about that, wow! It is really similar.

[@valtersplume3726]

ATLA and ASOIAF are indeed similar.

[@teamblack204]

First of all, the reason why Catelyn didn't want Jon in Winterfell was not due to her jealousy. It was because of Jon's appearance and how much he looked like Ned more than any her own children (except Arya). So Catelyn feared Jon could claim Winterfell, and cause some incident that similar to Blackfyre rebellions. Basically, Catelyn was concerned for Robb's right as the Winterfell heir. This is why she made sure Jon felt like an outcast, otherwise he could feel like Ned's true son and heir. But even though Catelyn outcasted Jon, she never treated him badly, she could if she wanted to. But no, she just ignored and ghosted him. Only except the time when he came to see Bran, but she was half mad with misery there. Also she was aware that Ned could sleep with some other women as most men would. You can read her 2nd chapter in the first book. Apart from this, Catelyn wasn't acting impulsively when she captured Tyrion. She literally had no other choice. At first, she tried to hide but because of a singer named Marillion, Tyrion noticed Catelyn in the crowd. So at this point, Catelyn didn't have another choice, if she let him go away, Tyrion would find out Catelyn visited King's Landing secretly (she went to King's Landing in order to see Ned and warn him). So Tyrion would understand that Starks were up to something suspicious. Basically, this wasn't an impulsive decision, just the opposite this was the best political decision possible in this situation. And lastly, Catelyn is a smart chracter! She even tricked and outsmarted Tyrion for a couple of times! She knew how the politics of Westeros worked, better than most character. You're talking about Hoster Tully's daughter here! This is totally a disrespect!

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

This explains her actions in a justified way but as Stannis the Mannis said:"A good act does not wash out the bad, nor the bad the good!"

[@teamblack204]

@@PedroLucas-mg5je I'm not saying Catelyn is a saint. Of course she had many faults. And it definitely would be better if she treated Jon with affection. But still, you can see the motives behind her actions. She's not stupid or impulsive. Just the opposite, she's one of the smartest female characters in the series.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

@@teamblack204 Exactly and, since Dany and Tyrion are going to do more evil or grey actions in TWOW, it would've make sense if Jon do this after his resurrection and returns as an angry Wolf-Man and turns himself into everything Catelyn feared or thought about him!

[@hi-ls6lt]

The hate the fandom has for her is very weird to say the least. As it is with Sansa too.

[@teamblack204]

@@hi-ls6lt I can see why people dislike these characters. But in some fans, I think misogyny is involved in this hatred :/

[@diegoprodriguez]

Stoneheart is really the only character I can think of that I believe will make a big difference then compared to the shows.

[@kafei-creme]

Aegon too

[@terryjav1]

The real Euron as well

[@skylertremblay3395]

the entire dorne plot, mance dying, night king, faegon, barriston dying etc

[@rivolverocelot3010]

I think it would change Briennes story too much

[@DoratTheKiller]

fAegon comes to mind too

[@TheK.E.]

You're not giving Arya nearly enough credit in this video! You said her warging powers are untrained, but after warging into Nymeria she follows that desire to find her mother. That's more control than Bran shows over Summer, even though he's much more trained in other ways.

[@valtersplume3726]

Lady Stoneheart is among the scariest characters in the books.

[@Eshkanama]

I love all your videos so much. You’re very easy to hear, have great pictures, and get straight into and out of the point, punctual, and extremely insightful. Please keep making these.

[@arancar101]

How could they leave this out of the show..

[@danielhogan6255]

1) creates issues with arya's list, 2) no clear arc direction by the time the show got picked up, 3) probably thought the "she dont speak much" bit would be a hard sell and didnt want to try figure out how to write a character, who needs ANOTHER character standing next to her in all her scenes, just so she can interact, via interpreter, with the rest of the cast. 4)Then there would be the whole "too many zombies" thing... I mean imagine the studio with stoneheart in the Riverlands, uncle benjin cosplaying as coldhands up north, AND "the others" out there... the show would of had three different undead elements with different backstories to introduce.. Becomes convoluted on screen... *Studio solution* = cut stoneheart and coldhands, re-package benjin to be the shows coldhands just without the bloodraven link to him, and keep the undead element of the show as binary as possible for simplicity. Those are my guesses. For clarification i feel your dissapointment, stonehearts creepy as all get out! Shame she wasnt more fleshed out by the time the books got picked up for tv..or i guess that the show didnt try stick closer to the i.p

[@lord_of_fails6197]

Well if you were a walking corpse, would you really go back to your family. Like you said she is changed and just thinks of revenge so it is kinda logical that she would not go back

[@madelcyfuentes6709]

I loved Cat and LOVE Lady Stonheart...great video!!

[@CIA_Killed_JFK]

Brandon Stark And His father Rickard Stark we’re killed by the mad king after Lyanna Stark was “Kidnapped” by Rhaegar, Brandon Stark rode to kings landing to demand her release. The mad king arrested him as a traitor and ordered his father to kings landing to get his son back. When Rickard Stark got to kings landing the mad king arrested him as a traitor too. Rickard Stark requested a trial by combat and the mad king said “Fire is the champion of house Targaryen” he suspended Rickard Stark in the rafters above the court and had pyromancers light a blaze underneath him. Brandon Stark was bought in wearing a Tyroshi strangle device and told he could save his father. A Long sword was placed just out of reach and Brandon Stark strangled himself to death trying to save his father who was burned alive in his armor.

[@fritzvoncranach6268]

Commenting because it helps the channel. Keep up the good work.

[@thekinghass]

I think her story are way mote tragic in the books compared to the show because you can know her thoughts all the time even if the red weeding has been spoiled to you it still hit so hard and you understand why she became the demonic being

[@christophertracy383]

I wish Lady Stoneheart had been in the show!!

[@dhavaldesai6202]

This is where the show failed in end. they were trying get away from magic .magic and prophecies is big part of the books and showrunners tried to get away from it around season 4 and 5.

[@Rollno-sz7kb]

In the Books, 🐺🐺 Nymeria finds lady Catelyn stark's body in river, Nymeria drags her to the shore and tries to wake her, but realizes she is dead. She flees when she sees men approaching.

[@dhavaldesai6202]

@@Rollno-sz7kb that part was amazing and Arya warging.

[@Rollno-sz7kb]

@@dhavaldesai6202 Also in books Grey wind did not die inside the cage doing nothing. He killed freys 4 Wolfhounds and ripped off hand of one man while being shot by crossbows.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

@@Rollno-sz7kb Man, that would be SO BADASS to see!

[@wadewilson8011]

It wasn't Ned's naivety that got him killeda, it was his honor, integrity, and love for his family.

[@marvinmoeller3170]

I miss this kind of fantasy in the show, also how they present Euron in the show, he could bring so much dark fantasy in it.

[@darhaha3391]

Brandon got himself killed?! That's a little unfair man!

[@angadsingh9314]

Is it really? He knew Aerys was crazy.

[@racheldollton]

Brandon was impulsive and stubborn. All the evidence was there that Lyanna left willingly and was not kidnapped.

[@angadsingh9314]

@Rachel What evidence would that be?

[@Brandonhayhew]

Angad Singh Lyanna eloped with Rhaegar because Robert a whore but she runaway with a married man. Lyanna is shit, and house Stark is full of crap.

[@Niidea1986]

@@angadsingh9314 Robert would be the evidence... He is quite a dislikable character

[@Divinemakyr]

KZbin takes a long time to give me notifications.

[@greendragon2875]

I know, same thing happenes to me

[@b00p196]

They didn't do it in the Tv series, but make Catelyn and Jon reunite in the books please! Imagine them trying to re-take Winterfell together and getting Rickon back from Skaagos and Sansa back from the Eyrie!

[@soy.sauce.latte.]

That would be awesome especially lady stonehearts reaction that she hated jon for nothing(if he gets ressurected and is not a bastard)

[@Siegbert85]

Isn't she basically a sentient rotting corpse? I don't think she will have a happy meeting with anyone. She will just do a little more horific shit and then die for good. That's my prediction...

[@mr.clymate7489]

Jon too is a dead man and might be the only one who understands.

[@francisabellana445]

I always felt like something was not right with Catelyn Stark and that her character isn't complete taking Tyrion as captive, letting Jaime go all of that for nothing she died for nothing it only makes sense that she is brought back her story was not complete

[@brianlam257]

Wait, this is a new video? I have been watching 4, 5, 6, or even 8 year-old GOT clips these days lol

[@czatron]

Please make your vids longer!! I cant get enough ! I had to go back to LOTR lore! Lol great stuff you create!

[@aquaticasmr184]

I know this already I just love your content

[@yeuryacasio5084]

thanks so much for still uploading your videos are always a good watch

[@whycreate]

:D

[@MrMarinus18]

2:30 It does seem that Ned never completely opened up to Cat. I do think that's a bit of a failing of him as Caitline would have likely kept the secret out of love for him. It would have certainly helped make things easier on everyone.

[@dirkz.duggitz1567]

He couldn't. He promised Lyanna he'd tell noone and keep hime safe. Plus Cats disdain for Jon helps sell the bastard story

[@danield6672]

I would really like to see Rickon's real story arc and what happens with him later on. In the show it was pretty obvious that the brain dead writers had no idea what to do with him since the show hadn't done much with him yet so they just wanted to kill him off to avoid ever having to write him into the story. But I was always very interested in what his real role in the story would end up being.

[@Brandonhayhew]

I hope Little finger really meet Lady stoneheart someday. Edit: it be poetic

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

It would be tragic irony for Littlefinger to be killed by the only woman he ever loved!

[@Brandonhayhew]

@@PedroLucas-mg5je his love turned into the opposite, irony but ugly, a true symbolism of what we humans are

[@storiestotell]

This is what we waiting for in winds of winter. ❄️ Stoneheart saga would be incredibly good. 😊

[@myseveredwrjsts]

wish they didnt cut her character off

[@tb9360]

GOT TV show question:Is the Frey house still alive or did Arya wipe all the males from existence?

[@ravenwood1865]

there are still the baby males freys.

[@MM-xm5vx]

The Frey line could live through the Tully line if they were all whipped out. But in the books there are Frey’s married to the Bolton’s and ones being fostered in the vale, ones in castle Darry ( which are the ones not trusted because they were to close to the starks) and the ones at the twins.

[@redblueproductions9739]

Show has no logic, so it's a good but stupid question.

[@ntobekososibo2042]

Who? (lol) D&D: we don't know her..

[@kaneslives]

Freys/Lannister/Boltons: Are we the baddies? Stoneheart: YES.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

I mean, tecnically, she isn't wrong!

[@TheRoguePrince0]

She is the reason the red wedding happened because it never would have happened if she didn't free jamie

[@Brandonhayhew]

It would still happen because the Battle of Blackwater. Lannister’s alliance with The Tyrell and Robb’s positions were clear to show that his doomed with the North under Greyjoy and civil war

[@TheRoguePrince0]

@@Brandonhayhew no it wouldn't have because Jamie would still be in a cell at riverrun and tywin would never risk Jamie's life

[@Brandonhayhew]

Commander Shepard they have Edmure as a hostage since his wedding. They cam use that as leverage on riverrun. When you think about their position in war before red wedding it was part of that Tywin plan. Edit: In chess game think ahead of your enemies.

[@TheRoguePrince0]

@@Brandonhayhew I doubt the black fish would let Jamie live once he hears of the red wedding

[@Brandonhayhew]

Commander Shepard at the end the stark were doomed. The best case for a winning is renly as if he lived and stannis died because no red priestesses. Robb would bent the knee to renly and return north

[@OJeyjunior]

looool I had totally forgotten about poor Rickon and 2:34 had me scared

[@christophertracy383]

I wonder why Aerys became mad? The 3eyed Raven? Dany wasn't crazy, she was pissed off after Rhaegal's death and Missandei's decapitation. She should've just burned the Red Keep!

[@themjpaul]

I've been watching GAME OF THRONES for ever and this is so new to me. So many spinoff can be made. Wowwwww

[@MrMarinus18]

2:55 One big thing to me is that she felt no regret torturing Tyrion on very flimsy evidence. She never stood up to the insane Lyssa or really questioned herself. I also really hate how she never feels bad about how she treated Jon. She doesn't have to be depressed about it but it is a notable failure of her as a mother but she never seems to see it as such.

[@callmekhaleesi]

I remember a scene where catelyn talked about “i only took one oath to gods and that was treating jon like my other children. Maybe what happens right now is all my fault because i couldnt love one innocent child” she feels awful inside but the love she felt for ned makes her angry about him

[@callmekhaleesi]

And she said she was always afraid of jons mother… she was afraid he loved her more then herself its why she couldnt give love

[@tigerlancer]

Lady stoneheart will realize Jon snow is lyanna's child. She knows Jon is Robb's heir. It's probably why she currently has Robb's crown. Lady stoneheart will find out by bran, howland and maybe samwell tarly about Jon's true lineage. She'll probably give her life to ressurect Jon and with her last ounce of strength, crown him as he rises from death in front of a lot of key northern people.

[@sgauden02]

They say that there's no fury like that of a woman scorned. I beg to differ. How about the fury of a mother out to avenge her children?

[@Jack-rk7jc]

How many Stark's have died and come back? Jon, Cat, you could make a case for Bran. I wonder if that means anything...

[@livshadowtree]

Jack M in the books he didn’t die tho, did he?

[@Jack-rk7jc]

@@livshadowtree who? Jon or Bran? Because jon dying was one of the big events of the most recent book. And bran never died technically, but he should've by all logical accounts.

[@livshadowtree]

@@Jack-rk7jc for real? bruh I don't even remember that. I meant Jon. It's been about a year since I read the last one and in between, I watched the show so sometimes I mix things up completely. But then, on the other hand, I've read the books in another language and maybe that's something that was left out, even though that would be kinda weird. (Considering the books were split into 10 books and it was all really confusing) I already see I've got to re-read the books already.

[@livshadowtree]

@Grim Reaper oh, well thank you for clarifying!

[@Joker-yd7me]

its mean their plot armor is strong af

[@lunayen]

You forgot to mention the other knight that was with Brienne and Pod.

[@SP-sv9mi]

Maybe thats part of the reason why Jon fell for Ygritte so hard. Finally got the love from a catelyn look alike lol. #mommyissues

[@lunayen]

No.

[@jordanspisla7470]

@@lunayen Yes

[@PanKrabz]

Hope she's get her revenge in the books.

[@mekasa6721]

Can you imagine if we saw the next episode of game of thrones when Catelyn got pulled out of the river and be came Lady stoneheart ? But I guess we will never know 😭🤷🏻‍♀️

[@millieboon]

Wonder if she would recognise her kids if she crosses paths with them or it would be nice for her to see them

[@22s22a]

Cant believe they skipped over this like it was just filler

[@FrayAdjacentTX]

HA... I just read the epilogue of A Storm of Swords an hour ago.

[@OnEwHoRiDesLinEs]

“Muscley hothead who got himself killed” is a really bad way of saying got strangled by the mad king while trying to save his kidnapped sister. Really makes us question the value of your perspective.

[@Rollno-sz7kb]

In the Books, 🐺🐺 Nymeria finds lady Catelyn stark's body in river, Nymeria drags her to the shore and tries to wake her, but realizes she is dead. She flees when she sees men approaching.

[@elijah4621]

@@Rollno-sz7kb omg stfu

[@jamie_d0g978]

Brandon is a fucking moron who go alone to the capital of a known cruel and crazy king making threats and demanding stuff and got everyone dragged into the shit with him

[@serjaimelannister5152]

Catelyn Stark is pretty much the cause of all the problems in the entire book.

[@peteperkins3859]

Catelyn was always Lady Stoneheart. She's personally responsible for countless deaths by starting the war of the five kings.

[@kkandsims4612]

I like Michelle fairly so I like catelyn I like tv catelyn better and I think Michelle was a better acting chose then Elisabeth I love both and I think Elisabeth is more Hollywood pretty but Michelle is more reality beautiful and since they aged up everyone in the tv show I think 45 year old Michelle fairly was beautiful enough to play catelyn I know so many ha e hate for catelyn but she’s my girl and I can’t hate her . ( mostly because Michelle was casted as her and Michelle is such a relatable human .) if it had been someone eles I might have just hated catelyn like everyone else. But I also hate Danny so yea.

[@andrewvasquez7872]

While this would have probably been awesome, because who doesnt like a zombie hellbent on revenge? I think it would have come off as cheap and doesnt really fit the version of Westeros that GoT had. It was more straightforward in its character arcs and less focused on magic and with a more streamlined overall story. Adding another villain would have been a mistake and since her story is unfinished she would have just made a cameo appearance for the fans and her story would have been unresolved. The Red Wedding in the show was soo chilling because it was soo final and turned the story on its head by killing off the characters the audience thought would be major players in the show especially Robb. To have that taken away from us soo abruptly and savagely made the show as popular as it would become. To this day people still talk about that episode. Bringing her back would have taken away from that.

[@ahmadalimi9784]

No it wouldn't. The red wedding would still be inpactgul, both because everyone else involved in it also died but also the fact that although 'Catelyn' was resurrected, the Catelyn that the audience knew would have been long dead. If tge show really went all in with making lady stoneheart look as corpselike as she was described in the book, she would read more as a frankenstein monster, rather than the reanimation of a beloved writer. D&D were just dumb largely incompetent writers who were unable the incorporate the more nuanced complicated plots of the book due to their inability to see those plots through. Evidenced by the show exclusive plotlines they came up with and promptly abandoned.

[@rainluna9765]

Winds of Winter could be out this year.

[@maceface2892]

Game of Thrones is a hard thing to be a fan of it seems. The show's last few seasons completely ruined the show for me and who knows if and when Martin will ever actually finish the books. We're just left with either and unfinished story, or a story that went from really good to terrible with it's ending.

[@cutterholt3987]

" Cat wasn't all that bright" okay.......

[@I_am_a_cat_]

Now 10 years later and still waiting...

[@I_am_a_cat_]

Shit I was here 2 years ago and we're still waiting

[@maliksmama]

If Jon is alive, how safe is he from Stoneheart?

[@Jess-yo9rt]

I think that as long as he stays at the wall he is safe. If he tries to take Winterfell she will never accept. Robb had thought of taking Jon from his vow so if he died Jon could continue, but Catelyn was strongly against the idea. She REALLY doesn't trust Jon, is kind of irrational the hate she had for him. Even the Blackfish said he wouldn't trust Jon just because Cat didn't and he trusted her judgment, this was when Jaime tried to convince him to take the black.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

@@Jess-yo9rt It would be the peak of irony if Stoneheart is the one who crowns Jon King in the North in the books!

[@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164]

I like this video and the story telling.

[@loremaster8475]

Cat:so about jon..... Ned:Silence woman! hes mah boy nuff said

[@thespacecowboy420]

you have game of thrones in the title but she's not in it?

[@a.walker9350]

I really want to see Catelyn reunited with her children. Or possible nymeria the dire wolf.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

I wish the same for Jon if he's ressurrected!

[@jimtaramas6081]

I love revenge stories!

[@carmenmorissette3591]

TLDR: She had her throat cut open then she cameback from the dead and people who found her were like 'ohh mah gawd she like a zombie or something man! that has to be some witchcraft or the gods want her to stay, anyways we'll serve her now i suppose lets give her her son's crown or something so people can make nice fan art of her fiddling with it on some table or some shit'

[@lilyhudson8470]

Men like Ned are high Quality men. Everybody cheat but he didn’t. It sad that his couldn’t trust his wife or else all the misunderstood wound resolved long time ago and she won’t hate John Snow

[@dcamacho5764]

Lady stoneheart is going to be the one who brings Jon snow back to life

[@sarawilliamson5420]

I suddenly have a new perspective on Catelyn: oldest child people pleaser from a repressive highly religious household. We've all met her.

[@DarthHao]

Hopefully Lady Stoneheart gets to kill Littlefinger in the next book.

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

It would be tragic irony, in the past, she is the one who begged for Brandon not to kill Petyr and in the end, Petyr will beg for mercy not to be killed by Cat but this time, it won't work! (And I prefer her to kill Petyr rather than Sansa!)

[@yuyuverse9044]

so Arya was a warg?

[@pitakon]

11 years now.

[@albdamned577]

Imagine if lysa ended up with Ned instead of cate. Bet lysa would forget about little finger

[@Okamiobidala]

I adore your voice.

[@rademfam6856]

I’m sure you all have heard or known this... but the books were much better. I read the first one in 1998 and still waiting for them to end

[@Asher_Te_Knight]

Ned Stark looks chubby, lol.

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

The Mask is off and we get to see the real Catelyn Tully.

[@SHARKVADERS]

WC !!!

[@earl_gay]

I'm new to this channel and so far LOVING it. So curious, though-where do you get all of this information from?? I've read the books countless times and there's so much I had no idea on, like certain places, and things that happened.

[@earl_gay]

Update: I've got 'the world of ice and fire' now nevermind lmfao

[@saltykrug]

need to work on the voice but other than that, really cool video

[@MicroBoy-gy1gd]

Hey dude can you make more videos about soiaf about the deep ones and the five forts? A Chanel called ideasoficeandfire made a video but I didn’t understand it

[@SIDEKICKONYOUTUBE]

just wanted to know starting from her death then becoming Lady Stoneheart. you didn't have to rewind all the way to season 1

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

This show needed at least 12-15 seasons.. I wouldve gone full 20 seasons

[@bossrob7857]

This and the battle of ice

[@americanwelder9865]

The show was great. But man, did they miss out not including this story as well!

[@sandycheeksyaboi9906]

I think this is one rare circumstance where the show does a better job than the books, i just don’t think it would fit in the show if Cat came back to life

[@mi-lo4ec]

I both love and hate the idea of lady Stoneheart, what I love is she became this zombie that is obessous on revenge on the Freys, Boltons, and Lannisters. So with the fact it could be her not Arya that will killed Walder Frey, and might start Red Wedding 2.0. But what I hate about her is that seems anyone can be resurrected with any red priest, and make resurrection in the series seem less unique. So with not having one of the coolest characters anymore Beric Dondarrion the Lighting Lord, he was so cool.

[@sandycheeksyaboi9906]

mi I just think thematically it didn’t fit in the show

[@edwardklein3093]

Boo! Your comment sucks! Booo!

[@mi-lo4ec]

@@edwardklein3093 Which one?

[@bitterfox518]

@@mi-lo4ec, honestly bringing back LSH and having Beric acting the way he acts in the books would make resurection more interesting. It would show how it affects a person.

[@TheRoguePrince0]

Ned not being jons real father is nothing but targrayen propaganda

[@Razorblade267]

would be cool if lady stoneheart is the one to revive jon snow in the books

[@blampfno]

3:23 Where's Walder

[@mrtheluckybucket]

She wamts to feed the crows

[@albdamned577]

I could totally see lady Stonehart taking out little finger. just imagine his perfect ideal is perverted, corrupted and unleashed against him. I love the idea of spreading the gift of life via a kiss after his throat is slit

[@ahmxtsxnjuu2373]

Who do we reference when saying A.C. in the I&F context ? because I doubt christ was a thing in the word of I&F