How Christian Women Got Played by Progressivism | Guest: Chris Rufo | Ep 839

[@jennifertoft9431]

Just living here in the Portland area has caused me to go from left to right, I've seen the outcome of these ideas in real time, and it's horrifying.

[@mariagalleriaxi8632]

I am a young adult black woman in college. Escaping the propaganda of 2020 was one of the most tumultuous things I’ve ever experienced. Navigating the media, learning about what was truth and what wasn’t the truth, and fearing ostracism from peers and colleagues for defending the word of God and being against the theft of BLM and Act Blue charities…I am lost and I need prayer. I am afraid.

[@toddcarll]

I am praying for you tonight and appreciate your strength in standing for the Lord. He is faithful

[@deborahedlen856]

You are not alone. They want you to feel defeated and lonely. If the truth is in you, then you are one with the body of Christ. I know it's their strategy to make you feel ostracized, because we all do. We are the silent majority. Just keep learning as much as you can. Learn everything that Thomas Sowell teaches and you will be ready to defend truth against the lies. Praying for you 🙏🙏🙏

[@aaronlevitt6820]

Praying for you. We are all one in Christ. (Rom 12:5; John 17:22-23)

[@zackweiland5545]

God bless you for your faithfulness to God, and to Truth. I'm praying for you sister! Take heart, the Lord is faithful, and will guide you! -Psalm 37: 23-24

[@Mrs.CGraves]

I’m so glad you searched and found the light. The light of Christ in all the darkness. Your life will be one of joy, fulfillment, purpose with the heart and mind aligned. God bless!❤️ I will pray and just prayed for you to never stop searching for truth. Find trusted mentors who are aligned with your biblical views. Read your Bible. Paul wrote about all this in every letter in the New Testament. It’s crazy that 2,000 years ago the same issues of Sin were plaguing the early church as the church and society today. Read your Bible, stay in prayer with Jesus for discernment, ask for help, and find a Christian woman as a mentor, (do not focus on race, race is another idol before Christ) build your ENTIRE identity into being a Christian Woman. Not a black woman, a educated woman, a mother, a wife.. if you identify in Christ and being a Christian first all those other identifying align. Monique Dusson at Center for Biblical Unity is a beautiful Christian Woman who may be great for you to reach out to. 🙏❤️ your on the right path.

[@sarahadams623]

Chris hit the nail on the head when he describes the radicalization of administration and faculty in academia. I went to a "Christian" college in the early 2000s - we had a conservative student body and liberal faculty- and was radicalized in the English department and ended up walking away from my faith. I was fully captured by "Christian" marxism until I had my first daughter in the summer of 2020 - the combination of those two events caused me to wake up in a serious way. So sad to see how decieved I was for so long. Thankful for Chris and Allie's clarity.

[@LarryCulp-oe8td]

What is the name of the l" Christian" learning institution , that deceived you?

[@eurekahope5310]

While Sarah may prefer to keep some anonymity, I can tell you of three people I know who attended Point Loma in that general time frame who left the faith. I do know one person who kept her faith. While we can't solely blame the school, I do think we can figure out which schools have compromised when looking at their science department. If they have compromised on creation, they have capitulated to culture and no longer believe Scripture is sufficient. Just my 2 cents...

[@sarahadams623]

@@LarryCulp-oe8td I went to Messiah College (now university). I do know many people have had good experiences there in other disciplines and are still believers - but I think the English department is a different matter. I can only recall a single acquaintance from that department who still believes in biblical Christianity.

[@Mrs.CGraves]

I think Christian Universities with Secular Professors and Administrations make them Secular Colleges that get tax benefits and money from Parents thinking they are placing children/young adults in safe schools. It’s a marketing gimmick at this point. I’m glad you went thru all that so you now know 100% the difference between The Light, The Way, The Truth in Jesus Christ, and the complete darkness of Satan. It’s very real. And so destructive.

[@acerpalmatum6446]

​@@eurekahope5310yep, I went to Northwest Nazarene Univ in Idaho in early 00s. Conservative student body and very liberal faculty, especially as I was in the humanities. I, too, left the church for almost 20 yrs before recently returning to my Christian faith.

[@lmartinez7534]

I’m a white Christian female and posted the black square for a day, having no idea what it truly meant. I made the mistake of saying “All Lives Matter” too. I got chewed out by my cousin, which opened my eyes. Thankfully since then, I’ve learned so much through people like Allie, Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens. I’m so thankful for you Allie!!

[@sarawillett7431]

Good point Allie, people don’t want to question things because it’s very uncomfortable for them.

[@kaila62kaila]

What a powerful discussion! Most appreciated!

[@marilynharvey8838]

Another thing that happened in the 60s (that stifled the revolution then) was a move of God. The Jesus movement was real. Many, seeing the problems of those times and looking for change, began embracing radical ideologies; yet, they themselves were changed when they embraced Jesus Christ and looked to the scriptures for answers. God give us another outpouring of your Holy Spirit!

[@janinevanreenen9470]

2020 sifted out who were the progressives in the church!

[@tanyabaker4809]

We left our church of 25 years during that time because it became so obvious where the leadership had gone in their beliefs.

[@mikedavid3087]

Great show Allie. Keep it up!

[@carolberubee]

The problem is, we're on a runaway train. Comparing 2020 to 1968 to 1776 is only useful if you recognize the differences, not if you highlight the similarities. For example, one of the chief differences between 1776 and now is that women didn't have the vote and were almost exclusively workers in the home. All authority was in the hands of men. We can't expect another 1776 revolution with so many women in charge. The enemy knows that and that's why he first went after Eve and is now continuing to destroy society by deceiving women. Another key element is Christianity. Although many of the men in 1776 colonial America were not necessarily Christian, they were at least Deist. There was a belief that the Bible was the Word of God. Today, the infallibility and authority of Scripture have been so far eroded, even in many churches, that there is no political solution. This is a spiritual problem.

[@OlgaSmirnova1]

You are right Carol!

[@Mrs.CGraves]

Dead on!

[@LauriSims]

@yabits That is gnosticism. Gnosticism is not Christianity.

[@LouieKaboom]

​@@yabitsYou want to see false? Go stand in front of a mirror!

[@RachelNichols-writer]

Be not conformed to this world but transformed through the renewing of your minds in Christ Jesus. The Bible condemns foolishness for a reason.

[@teresaabernathy460]

The book “None Dare Call it Education” by John A Stormer explains all the Marxist goals and accomplishments through education.

[@A_Pie323]

I have a girlfriend who lives in Philly and voted for Biden in 2020, despite not aligning with his views AT ALL, due to fear. I quote her: “I don’t want to vote for him but I’m afraid of what could happen with the rioting so I’m going to anyway”. That’s SAD.

[@samanthakwait8782]

Philly got wrecked. My sister lives down in manayunk and was 100% with her city being destroyed. She voted for Biden and will vote for him again.

[@AllThingsApologetics]

I enjoyed this interview and learned a lot! I may have to read his book. I’m grateful that it’s hopeful too!

[@kristyleavitt8007]

I love when you do ads for Carly Jean Los Angeles, because they’re such a great company! I love that more women are learning of them because of your podcast! 😊

[@shelleyirwin6104]

Our pastor interrupted his scheduled sermon to do a sermon about racism in America. I was stunned at the left wing propaganda. He actually said What do you think when you see a black man holding hands with a white woman? I was shocked. My thought was did my pastor just call me a racist because I happen to be white??? I almost left the church because of that one horrible sermon but a friend talked me out of it. I forgave the pastor and 2 years later he retired so now we have a new pastor. I’m so glad I didn’t react impulsively to that. Boy what a terrible time that was.

[@thadtheman3751]

If you had the courage to get up and walk out at that moment, most of the congregation would have joined you and the problem would have been solved earlier.

[@puresynergyflo]

Half our church (including me and my family) walked out within a month or two when our pastor Richard Cimino at Metro Calvary in Roseville, Ca got sucked into that garbage. What was left of the church slowly whittled away and finally closed less than a year later when the pastor abandoned those few left to go join his woke friend in Southern California. People scheduled time to try and talk to him about the evil that was pushing lies in this blm movement but he cancelled them after just a handful of people then had the gall in church to say only 8 people came to him in private. His wife even put the black square in her Facebook/instagram page and called others evil for trying to rebuke them. What a mess. I pray that he got his perspective back to a proper biblical track but he was a big follower of Tim Keller so that knot is tied pretty hard in his head. Not saying he isn’t saved but confused about the spiritual battle of the age he very much is/was. May God protect us all from those scales setting in so that we can see all as made in God’s image, all needing to be saved, and seeing sin clearly to run from it and warn others. Doxa Church in Rocklin was one of the biggest recipients of these local Christian “refugees” escaping woke pastors because the pastors there preached the word properly and held firm to truth. Happened like that all over the country.

[@shelleyirwin6104]

@@thadtheman3751 it was immediately after George Floyd’s death. We were on lock down. The sermon was online. I did wonder what I would have done if I was there in person that day.

[@thadtheman3751]

@@shelleyirwin6104 My apologies for the insinuation,.

[@verncampbell2395]

Never went back to ours. Revenge, guilt by association, group identification, the impossibility of forgiveness due to a skin color ("white privilege"), have nothing to do with the Christian message. The associate (black) minister was asked about racism in our small (very white) town one Sunday morning. His answer? A woman in a parking lot locked her car door as he walked by. Assuming she's racist (and not simply a door locker by habit or afraid because he's a big man), I would say 1) if that's the worst, he's come to the right place to live and 2) how does that condemn the other 6.000 in the city. The minister offered an apology for racism in our town and, of course, the associate did not offer forgiveness. How could he? Forgiveness would make it impossible to be a perpetual victim. Christian indeed!

[@BirdseyeVu]

One of your best interviews, Allie!

[@BrickbyBrick4U]

Waking up out of the "matrix" is scary. But knowing the truth (about anything) is freeing and worth the uncomfortable feelings that first come with it.

[@danielakeating9704]

Love your podcast!

[@KarinAllison]

If Christian women can't admit they were wrong, even to themselves, then that's a question mark to their practice of repentance, and their whole Christian label. Some of them really dished it out heavily in 2020 especially. Weak show if one can't apologize.

[@vernakroeker2330]

Thankyou Allie for your talk on surviving hurts in the church.

[@stephanieh-s2561]

Thank you, Allie 👍👍

[@solochristo65]

Let's not forget who H clinton wrote her college thesis on and who obama was friends with etc.... and that includes all their friends in the political realm.....

[@carolberubee]

Yes, I learned more about SA back in 08 when Obama first ran. And even then, I was late to the party. I would have figured most Christians would know about all this by now. There is a reason BO came out of nowhere and became president. Follow the money and the underground (no pun intended) ties. And those ties are global and, ultimately, spiritual.

[@Lisa-16]

Thanks!

[@tomharmon5198]

Dividing America through race is like dividing the church through Calvinism. In both cases, division comes through intellectual pursuit

[@kylepatrick5135]

How does calvanism divide the church? Calvanism is just reformed teaching. You should read the Bible more carefully because predestination is clear in the Word. I’d ask God for wisdom. What do you believe? Do you honestly think that someone as broken as yourself gets to choose a HOLY GOD? God is sovereign and He will be forever, you can’t appreciate Christs mercy without calvanism.

[@danielholiphant]

Brilliant analysis at 14:03 of the temperament of academics. Harsh but true reality.

[@nomane18]

Everyone should read: Crimes of the Educators by: Samuel Blumenfeld and Alex Newman

[@ivanaowona9146]

Very interesting conversation. I respect people who can stay clear minded in this era of progressivism bombardment. However, how do you come to the solution without ignoring the reality of racism ?

[@vickimann3262]

As Jordan Peterson said things have improved dramatically. Also, there are all kinds of prejudices, the equality and diversity agenda that trumps a meritocracy gets me.

[@newtalking3]

Great book Chris

[@hemetsonshine]

"There is nothing progressive about being pig-headed and refusing to admit a mistake. And I think if you look at the present state of the world it's pretty plain that humanity has been making some big mistake. We're on the wrong road. And if that is so we must go back. Going back is the quickest way on.". ~ C.S. Lewis, The Case for Christianity

[@buenos4799]

14:40: Good point about dominant vicious personalities. Actually, this is how the leftist concept of "consensus" works. The most aggressive person who also has a few crony friends, will dictate, with or without a title. Large corporations have eliminated meritocratic leadership and individual achievements in fields like engineering, instead management and HR demands all technical decisions to be made through consensus, that ends up being dictated by aggressive crony individuals. This is why product quality has dropped in recent decades. The managerial class demands the same "consensus" decision making in all other areas too, like at universities, government departments and so on.

[@winapitts6723]

Recommended book, Radical Son by David Horowvitz, another book of his, The Black Book of the American Left. He lived this.

[@Mrs_Mama_MFT]

I think I’ve avoided this pitfall because even back when it was simply “tolerance” i never bought into it. Tolerance is not Biblical! The Bible teaches love your neighbor, love your enemy… I also want to caution against completely writing off mental health therapy. There are many of us who integrate psychology and theology to provide ultimate healing and hope through biblical principles, Godly promises, and the Truth He’s revealed in many evidence based techniques. Of course not all therapist are the same and not all psychologists’ theories are Truth, but we need to encourage therapists who are working in a field that can reach the hurting with God’s love, peace, joy, and hope.

[@AdalisaMatar]

Loving the podcast! Around the 2:40 - 2:45 the video and audio starts cutting off 😢 I know he’s sharing very valuable info, wish I could have heard that small bit.

[@crowznest438]

The word "progressive" applied to politics has got to be the very definition of "oxymoron".

[@LouieKaboom]

You should have asked him why he doesn't think the WEF and Klaus Schwab are a threat. They're linked to Progressivism (Communism) and have influenced and fostered a lot of it here.

[@A_Pie323]

They bend the knee to China and the CCP. Who we all know are incredibly racist and actual human rights violators. Why doesn’t progressive political leaders and athletes abs Hollywood actors criticize them also but want to talk about systemic racism? It’s because they don’t actually believe or care about it any of it, at least not more than their bottom line. Remember what happened to John Cena? That was pathetic.

[@saraz9017]

Yes

[@Eyesofmars2040]

Also the police have their hands tied.

[@nymet2454]

Chris Rufo used to go on Tucker.

[@judithpresleywilson1267]

Correction: it wasn't until 1974 that women could get their own credit card or open a bank account!!! I know because I was 33 years old in 1974 and had to get my dad, then my husband to co-sign everything!! Don't get me started on all the restrictions educated Christian women had, even in colleges and work places. However, I think the pendulum has now swung to far the other way. To me, "Happy wife, happy life" is not Biblical. Too many women seem to want power and control instead of letting GOD lead the Way.

[@deanvanlaarhoven1413]

Too many commercials

[@conceptualclarity]

That's life. You get that with almost every channel on broadcast and cable TV. It's the price you pay for getting access to free content.

[@magyarmainer4692]

100%

[@samanthakwait8782]

My cousin who grew up Christian, and then married a pastor, left the faith completely in 2020 over all the blm stuff. It’s crazy. She now wears a shirt proudly stating “stars, stripes, and reproductive rights”🤦🏻‍♀️

[@christopherseymour4303]

Black panther party weather underground same policy in early late early 1960. And 1970. Same policy as today black lives matter weather underground founder help start the political career of Barack Hussein Obama

[@christopherseymour4303]

I know growing up in 1970 I watch show All in the family Maude Sanford and son Good time's. The Jefferson go back watch this show. Saying then in 1970 to now 2020 2021. 2022 2023

[@karenhowell7850]

The big sift of the church

[@walterkeith3711]

I only care about myself I'm gonna protect my life I could careless about anyone

[@karenhowell7850]

Romance novels are word p**n

[@Ketofit62]

Tate supposed to be about Sharon Tate

[@vickimann3262]

Nobody talks about natural consequences to their actions.

[@AngryVet44]

As a leftist I found that you sounded rational and understandable for once over on @BreakingPoints when talking about Andrew Tate today. Not a single mention anywhere in this channel/your twitter about your interview while THEY LINKED YOUR INFLAMMATORY TWITTER ACCT IN THE DESCRIPTION. Do we actually get more real nuanced conversations like over there or do we continue to get conservative rage porn because your subscribers would never wander to somwhere where they mind might be “poisoned” by other ideas??

[@eyesee9715]

Are you saying that people on the Left are not getting an accurate view of conservatives due to the media they receive? If so, would you be interested in letting more people on the Left know that fact? It amazes me how close-minded and cold- hearted ( and intolerant, judge mental, hateful, etc) so many supposedly Liberal and Progressive people have become. Your thoughts?

[@christopherseymour4303]

We need revival in the United States of America in world 🌎🌍🌎🌍 God bless united states'of of America God is great in control God bless united states'of of America God is great God sent Jesus Christ to save us not condem us Jesus Christ died own cross for our sins is the problem man not the answer jesus christ holy Spirit trinity three is the answer

[@Mrs.CGraves]

We are supposed to be separate from the World and identify in Christ Jesus Alone. We have now identified the progressive churches that are just part of The World. It’s actually been helpful to easily differentiate. Jesus is Love, and Love of Everyone says a lot. They never follow the other commands and do not understand love at all.

[@nchinth]

alliebethstuckey, time to become Catholic. along with candace owens.

[@sarawillett7431]

I have really thought this guy was not a good spokesman for this cause. Unless he’s changed & he may have, he wouldn’t admit that this had major anti white ideas imbedded in it & he kept saying “it’s racist to say anti white” which is literally ridiculous. Everything he’s saying is boiler plate stuff ppl know.

[@kaitey233]

This is a wildly revisionist perspective. How you can come to these conclusions and have studied history at a high school level is a mystery. It’s certainly clear that neither experienced public school recently. The 60s were unquestionably the height of anti-Left McCarthyism. The time when the federal government began big state surveillance driven by the right and jailed those on the left. Had there ever been a Marxist-Leninist leader none of this would this would have happened. We would not have fought the Cold War against Marxist Leninist communism. We would not have had the bay of pigs. The 1980s leading and through Reagan administration were the origin of the evangelical movement. The movement is documented to have actually executed the unhinged type of conspiracy you describe. See e.g. Heritage Foundation. The press has been owned by right wing owned organizations such as the Koch brothers, blackrock, and vanguard this entire time. That is fact not conspiracy. The US political system has had a single viable candidate on the left since 1990, Bernie Sanders. The Democratic Party, just like the Republican Party, is on the authoritarian right when considered in a historical and global context. See political compass 2020 elections: www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020 The heritage foundation has successfully taken the Supreme Court and most state governments. They have undermined public education and focused on indoctrination of children into right wing values since the schools were founded. These are those I personally experienced in public school post 2000: -forced Christian only prayer in schools long after the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional. -disallowing Halloween parties in school because the devil would take over the children’s souls -abstinence only sex education in the face of a teen pregnancy crisis. -Teaching xenophobia and anti-Islam post 9/11. -never being taught history after WWII in schools in the name of building patriotism -mass shooter drills bc the legislature prefers to protect students from ideas over bullets. I could go on forever. There’s a reason the right has lost the younger generations.