How copywriting gurus scam you

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Copywriting has been a get-rich-quick scheme for a couple of decades at least. And online gurus have become masters of scamming newbies out of money by promising "financial freedom" in their lightweight courses.
It's not fair.
Remember, everyone has an agenda.
No matter how authentic a copywriting teacher seems, always be cautious of buying informational products online...
Because maybe you're just entering the top of their funnel.
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@clintonnwaizu525
@clintonnwaizu525 Ай бұрын
I started running this journey, not because of the 6-figures as most gurus imply ... but because it was said copywriting is the only way to sell as an introvert.
@tiffanygordon-co
@tiffanygordon-co Ай бұрын
Lol same
@Brrrrbrrrr11
@Brrrrbrrrr11 Ай бұрын
Same here honestly im an Intj and it suits me
@samig.3548
@samig.3548 Ай бұрын
Similar experiences for introverts, heard its where the money is in writing
@BLUE...RED....BLACK000
@BLUE...RED....BLACK000 Ай бұрын
Im introvert and I thought that too, until I found out you need to go on sales calls to land a client
@indeen8052
@indeen8052 Ай бұрын
Yes, but not all the time.​@@BLUE...RED....BLACK000
@micah_drums
@micah_drums Ай бұрын
Got served an ad for a fake guru’s course while watching this. 😂😂😂
@user-ci1jz8pe8u
@user-ci1jz8pe8u Ай бұрын
LGA course?
@OGTennyson
@OGTennyson Ай бұрын
Bro this video is saying exactly all the things I've been telling other copywriters! These copywriting gurus are just out here to sell their course. It's how they make $100k/month. These gurus like cardinal mason, tyson 4d, ben bader etc are starting to piss me off fr. All these mfers do is sell their course now. And every "free" advice they give you is to put you in their funnel so they can try and sell to you🤦🏾‍♂️ If you're reading this rn, understand that you're alone in this copywriting thing. You have to figure out everything on your own with the free advice you get. It's gonna be hard, but as long as you promise not to give up you'll surely get it. There's money to be made on copywriting. You don't need to buy a frickin $4k course to help you out💀
@abhijit0012
@abhijit0012 20 сағат бұрын
Alright, but the problem is it gets hard sometimes to look for the right way, and there comes this fake gurus selling their courses to pay for their lambos and fool us. I'm sick of this shit
@OGTennyson
@OGTennyson 19 сағат бұрын
@@abhijit0012 me too brother. We just gotta figure things out with the free resources we've gotten. One thing I can appreciate people like tyson 4d for, is that they provide free courses on the copywriting subject. So we just gotta use what we got and make the best of it. Ain't no frickin way I'm buying a $5k course. That's what that prick cardinal mason is selling 😂😂
@almapeterson8646
@almapeterson8646 Ай бұрын
When I started out, I watched a free course of a copywriting guru. Ended up confused and when looking for answers I found Copy That! I watched your 5 hour course and within half an hour I realized that the guru told me NOTHING for as long as he could. Watching your content religiously, learning from it, and realizing copy is hard. Which is okay. I am willing to work to be good at it.
@Lightsngear
@Lightsngear Ай бұрын
Yes they usually go on and on about how much money you can make by following the exact same steps that they took years ago on their own with no experience. And "in my course" you'll learn all that and much more.
@almapeterson8646
@almapeterson8646 Ай бұрын
@@Lightsngear the audacity they have is unbelievable truly
@Ismam9Muzhar-zq9vy
@Ismam9Muzhar-zq9vy Ай бұрын
What is the name of the Guru you took the free course from? We certainly deserve to know his name
@jishnucopywriting
@jishnucopywriting Ай бұрын
@@Ismam9Muzhar-zq9vy it is obvious that tyson 4d 😅
@OGTennyson
@OGTennyson Ай бұрын
​@@jishnucopywritingor that white prick- Cardinal mason😂
@rannieperalta2192
@rannieperalta2192 Ай бұрын
This channel deserves million subs for telling the unfiltered truth about copywriting.
@hyddar
@hyddar Ай бұрын
I love you guz for truthfulness and higher quality structured methodology. More power to you 💪
@CinnamonGirl42069
@CinnamonGirl42069 Ай бұрын
The photo of Sean surrounded by models and a Lambo 🤣
@rainer_klvsaudio
@rainer_klvsaudio Ай бұрын
This needs to go viral. So much truth here! Thank you, Alex!
@AnujaNeth-uf9pr
@AnujaNeth-uf9pr Ай бұрын
Much needed video in this community guys, thank you so much for the honesty and this video. I'm 20 now and I started copywriting on october of 2023 and went down tysons copywriting rabbit hole. Luckily I didn't buy any courses cause I was literally broke (I'm from Sri Lanka and 500 usd was more than what make parents make per month combined.) Did over 1000 DMs over 3 months while learning copy and getting better. Sadly, got on a few calls and landed 0 clients because of that I gave up on copywriting for a few months since it felt hopeless. now I'm getting back to it again having understood the reality of the situation and I really wish this video was there 5 months ago. Again thank you guys for shedding light on this issue.
@AlxzAlec
@AlxzAlec 28 күн бұрын
You know that Copywriters very often make it clear that it takes long to get successful with it and that you will fail a lot, right?
@vivat-
@vivat- 26 күн бұрын
Cope ​@@AlxzAlec
@themadmen1717
@themadmen1717 16 күн бұрын
Are you talking about tyson 4d 😂
@ennacirinizar9802
@ennacirinizar9802 12 күн бұрын
hey bro its been 10 months since you started, can you tell us more about your journey ? have you learned enough? have u signed your first client? ressources etc....
@Myofficialchannelpage
@Myofficialchannelpage Ай бұрын
No tyson 4D was harmed in this video
@moonmars-c3i
@moonmars-c3i Ай бұрын
What's wrong with him ?
@Myofficialchannelpage
@Myofficialchannelpage Ай бұрын
@@moonmars-c3i nothing.. i mean he targets beginners and i actually went through his course. He charges insane monthly membership but the course material isn't that good as it is marketed. Sure you might learn a few things but you can learn much more for the same amount of money. I recommend buying Derek Johanson Copyhour instead of his course. derek's course is $497. Tyson charges $497 entry fee and $97 every month after that. Considering it is a 90 day program. You will end up paying around $690 for three months. Which is DEFINITELY NOT WORTH IT for the value in that course. Instead Spend money on something worth while. The new Copy That marketing course is really good because i went through sean's offer course and some other videos that were offered for free once during live stream. It costs $200 right now. So that is why don't pay that scammer any money. And also for your information he stole all the sean ferres course material that he now teaches inside his community
@aqeeloki
@aqeeloki Ай бұрын
​@@moonmars-c3i He's a scammer
@DivineAlchemyFields
@DivineAlchemyFields Ай бұрын
​@@moonmars-c3ieverything
@beverlykimespiritu8270
@beverlykimespiritu8270 28 күн бұрын
​@@moonmars-c3i the video literally described tyson
@Muhammadbilalwali1996
@Muhammadbilalwali1996 Ай бұрын
I love the honesty and transparency of copy that crew. Yes, most people on KZbin selling courses for hundreds and thousands of dollars...but themselves just made a few thousands...
@akshaysingh5444
@akshaysingh5444 Ай бұрын
I am from India and i would say you guys are doing a great job. A single channel of copywriting in the world. Thanks a lot thanks
@trekgreenwood6743
@trekgreenwood6743 Ай бұрын
I think what’s even worse is copywriters who are just getting in the game, who write for clients that sell “how to make money” * insert vehicle * courses. It’s basically circular marketing. I also don’t think there’s anything wrong with people who do sell those courses IF AND ONLY IF a few things. 1. They actually have a lot of knowledge and past experience on the vehicle they’re selling. And they have good intentions/morals. 2. The course / program they’re selling has everything students need to succeed. And by everything I mean EVERYTHING. Copywriting for example, that’s how to write, how to set up your business properly, prospecting, closing clients, client relationships, etc. The problem is that most gurus have none of these. All they focus on is Marketing and Sales, but not the Product. They sell the dream, but the products themselves are crap. And it’d be a very different story if they hype up the product, and the product turns out to actually be very good. (Hence why I like guys like Daniel Throssell.) IMO A scam is defined by: When the perceived value of a product purchased by the buyer, does not match up with the created value of a product marketed by the seller.”
@adam-copyvenom
@adam-copyvenom Ай бұрын
Hi Sevch here! Holy Balls, this is amazing man!
@sakshiduklan
@sakshiduklan Ай бұрын
Alex, you nailed it. Saved many people from this trap 🎉
@dylanj8676
@dylanj8676 Ай бұрын
Probably not. He is 100% correct but you can't convince a fool of anything (other than what they want to hear). There will still be people who think spending money on a course will teach them faster than a reputable book or blogs full of information.
@pramilagupta9235
@pramilagupta9235 28 күн бұрын
@@dylanj8676 I would like to add that when you are starting out lije absolutely from zero and hear about Copywriting for the first time that too from the mouth of these Gooroos then you are bound to fall into their trap. Because it's the first thing that you hear and believe it because you don't have anything that's backing up this source of information is incorrect. Even our Copy that copywriters says that we can earn thousands of dollars within 3 months but the difference is they tell you all the scenarios and how much is it likely to happen. But these Gooroos convinces you to believe that "EVERYONE" can get it within 3 months no matter what. It's not really about the shortcut I have been unfortunate to fall for all these. But I never gave up and upon taking action I understood who is a scammer and who isn’t.
@Lightsngear
@Lightsngear Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! It's great to hear all these so-called experts exposed for what they really are. It certainly answered all the questions that I've had about them all these years!
@enesballa236
@enesballa236 Ай бұрын
I used to have that earning 10k$/ month mindset from these gurus until I met actual copywriters from my country and learning from you guys. I haven’t done much copywriting because I’ve started looking for jobs and studying the travel/ tourism industry, since in my country it has become one of the most lucrative, if not, the most lucrative industry. And if there’s a goal I want to end up doing like the people that have been part of the Copy That community, is the first one you mentioned, being comfortable with that 20-40 hours a week with that 2k-8k $/ month, and also focus on working with the travel/ tourism industry, God willing. Thank you for the content you’ve been giving us guys.
@4kgamer937
@4kgamer937 28 күн бұрын
Are you from spain
@AMAli-ct5df
@AMAli-ct5df Ай бұрын
2k a month would be great for me as a young man who wants time to pursue other interests
@galaxynigga
@galaxynigga 20 күн бұрын
Literally this
@thefacelessquestion3333
@thefacelessquestion3333 8 күн бұрын
Will be great for me in the country where I'm situated...at the moment.
@aquacitydigital3316
@aquacitydigital3316 Ай бұрын
It's nice to know there are still people out there that are willing to tell the truth. Thank you for this video! 👍
@wnose
@wnose Ай бұрын
What these copywriting gurus don't mention is that the number of copywriting jobs on upwork have fallen by 25% in the last year due to AI
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
Sean here. I'm starting to see it tick up again--at least among the companies I work with. I think people are starting to realize that, even with AI, there needs to be someone to prompt and edit the copy so that it's not dogslop.
@wnose
@wnose Ай бұрын
@@CopyThat how is it in the finance niche? I was told early 2024 was rough - lots of layoffs
@AJAY16411
@AJAY16411 Ай бұрын
This is why i love you guys
@mohammadtayyab525
@mohammadtayyab525 Ай бұрын
A much needed video. Thanks Alex! I was dreaming on becoming a millionaire in the next 3 to 4 years before watching this video. Damn!
@gertrudenkiruka5954
@gertrudenkiruka5954 Ай бұрын
And you finally realized it's not as easy as you were told
@abhijithis9424
@abhijithis9424 Ай бұрын
Production quality increased dramatically. Especially the black background gives so much more oomf and focus to your person Alex. Even people who just been doing CW for 3 months and have gotten only few clients are selling stuff now 🤣
@dylanj8676
@dylanj8676 Ай бұрын
The irony of watching these gurus write is their copy is so bad literally anybody can write it in the time they take. Some of the stuff is so bad I could probably do it in 10 minutes. Oh, and they can't format or write proper paragraphs either. It always looks like this: "What if I told you, You can get RICH FAST and EASY from HOME". It's full of one line paragraphs and sencence fragements broken up with commas. A copy of _Hey Whipple, Squeeze This!_ will cost the same as one month of a cheaper course and provide way more information. This is why your channel is so good. I see real testimonials where people are saying things "After 3 months I'm finally making enough to replace my day job," and $2-3K after a few months is realistic. $10-20K like gurus suggest isn't.
@domanicvaldez
@domanicvaldez Ай бұрын
It's taken me just over 2 years to get close to 20-30k a month. Just recently my business partner and I signed a big client who has referrals for us! So we should get there soon. (Big for us is 10k contracted retainers, he needs a lot of work) His referrals are the same size with the same budget so it's exciting to have the hard work pay off. There is a lot of ups and downs. I've had negative checking account balances, worked crappy jobs while trying to learn the skill, failed with outreach, had bad clients, and so on. Keep in mind this is revenue not take home and there is taxes.
@dylanj8676
@dylanj8676 Ай бұрын
@@domanicvaldez I'm talking about people like Tyson 4D who claim you can get $10K/mo in 90 days. Then he tries to sell you paid mentoring where he says he can get you to six figures 10x as fast. So he's effectively telling the naive that he can get them a six figure salary in 10 days.
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
That's amazing. Excellent work! Copy and marketing is a lumpy business--especially for freelancers and agencies. I'm glad you pushed through the sh!t and came out smelling clean on the other side. Keep it up!
@domanicvaldez
@domanicvaldez Ай бұрын
I forgot to mention... I had a former agora writer (now big time freelancer) who made $75m with a webinar funnel for the company audit my copy as well. So, with all that said I've seen how hard it is, the quality needed, the hours it takes, etc... so yeah can you make crazy money in copy, sure, but it takes a long time. You need talent, marketing competency, and you NEED connections. (A referral system) Alex is correct. The companies that are open to paying us $10k/mo want marketing strategy, media buying, team development, actual copy, and management of projects. So I also had to develop those skills to stack. Can't make 10k a month with a client only writing 200 word emails lol.
@dylanj8676
@dylanj8676 Ай бұрын
@@domanicvaldez That's just it, the copywriters who are making that much are actually also acting as marketing strategists, graphic designers, and art director as well. Getting $10K for doing your clients marketing campaign is one thing, but nobody is making that much off just sales emails without commission or royalties. And the "entrepreneurs" on Instagram that gurus write for when they do write definitely aren't paying you those. I doubt they even know what royalties are.
@konrad3549
@konrad3549 2 күн бұрын
You're a real one for this
@joshnappa8183
@joshnappa8183 Ай бұрын
Dude, You’re an angel seriously. Thank you.
@Money-fixwithus
@Money-fixwithus Ай бұрын
I bought a copywriting course later on when ii read Copywriting secrets book of jim edward. I came to know the guy was actually teaching me content of his book.
@everywomansworld9908
@everywomansworld9908 8 күн бұрын
God bless you brother. I've observed everything you said first hand. It's very true. And some of their courses are empty. Plus they don't provide necessary guidance. Very wicked of them. For example Golibe Ilechukwu
@Ghost-X-T1
@Ghost-X-T1 18 күн бұрын
I like the way that he's trying to let us know the reality and telling us not to waste our time and money in paid course's that can be learn for free.
@saralackey3435
@saralackey3435 28 күн бұрын
Unfortunately social media is flooded with "gurus" promoting wealth without work in 90 days or less if you buy their course. This applies to just about every business opportunity. You can be sure they are not telling you the whole story.
@predrag21022
@predrag21022 Ай бұрын
Copy That and Kyle from Copy Squad are amazing!
@yasinrahman184
@yasinrahman184 Ай бұрын
Thanks for being genuine and honest and understanding ppl who struggle with little capital for financial freedom and exposing those fake gurus,who leech money out of us.you’ve earned a subscriber 🙏🙏your value and authenticity you provided me makes me want to invest in you ,keep doing it🙌🙌❤❤
@FormerMillionaire
@FormerMillionaire 20 күн бұрын
Excellent wake-up call. Thanks for sharing. - James
@Cosmicmorales
@Cosmicmorales Ай бұрын
5:06 so in other words, it's easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled.
@niranjanp65
@niranjanp65 Ай бұрын
The Dan Lok, Iman Gadhzi, Tate fans will still argue they don't scam
@jojohn103
@jojohn103 Ай бұрын
No Tyson 4d, cardinal Mason is hurt in this video
@ZRX-sg8gk
@ZRX-sg8gk Ай бұрын
tyson getting kicked out of the fourth dimension
@Cosmicmorales
@Cosmicmorales Ай бұрын
2:52 so tyson 4d basically..
@urbanloftsoundscapes
@urbanloftsoundscapes 2 күн бұрын
I JUST WATCHED TYSON 4D'S 8 HOUR COURSE AND KZbin SHOWS ME THIS VIDEO RIGHT AFTER CALLING TYSON 4D OUT WITHOUT CALLING HIS NAME. DAMN
@zainurrahman4427
@zainurrahman4427 Күн бұрын
was that 8hr course helpful in any way
@urbanloftsoundscapes
@urbanloftsoundscapes Күн бұрын
@@zainurrahman4427 that was my first ever copywriting video so ill say yes
@safeeruttero786
@safeeruttero786 Ай бұрын
That's Copy That!
@easyvibesYT
@easyvibesYT Ай бұрын
Thanks for this sensitisation❤ I really gained a lot from this video.
@FranzStFleur
@FranzStFleur Ай бұрын
I love this channel and this group
@AMAli-ct5df
@AMAli-ct5df Ай бұрын
I learnt alot about them. I never bought their causes
@TwistedMindMastery
@TwistedMindMastery Ай бұрын
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but it's very possible to make a lot of money with copywriting, but with a course it's more easy to scale and less time consuming, and some of these gurus maybe just want another source of income as well. I get that there are many fake gurus but I don't think all of them are fake.
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
> "it's very possible to make a lot of money with copywriting" Sure. Possible. Just improbable. There are a lot of hurdles between newbie copywriters and a consistent high income. Most fall short of that. > "with a course it's more easy to scale and less time consuming" Have you found that to be true for yourself? If so, more power to you. We hope our own courses provide this, but it's not a promise that we make because... we don't promise results. > "there are many fake gurus but I don't think all of them are fake." At what point did we say every guru is fake?
@TwistedMindMastery
@TwistedMindMastery Ай бұрын
​@@CopyThat Thank you for the reply, keep up the good content
@thereadinglifeofmaida
@thereadinglifeofmaida Күн бұрын
Damn Man I have just paid 1st installment for my copywriting course starting from 21st September. I'll come again after one month and will tell you how it went. P.S I am afraid now but still pray may it turn out what I wanted it to be 🙃
@hugoleonardoamaral586
@hugoleonardoamaral586 Ай бұрын
I just remembered a sign that said "we're doing this not because it's easy, but because WE THOUGHT it would be easy". That's basically my copywriting journey right there 😅
@ennacirinizar9802
@ennacirinizar9802 12 күн бұрын
is it worth it learning copywriting in 2024 ? is it the way to go for a commerce student who has no revenue
@saadahmad438
@saadahmad438 Ай бұрын
thanks for making this video
@sagarbiradar7701
@sagarbiradar7701 Ай бұрын
Whatever you taught in 5 hour course I didn't find even 1% of that in anh of their courses on KZbin. They just talk bs about how easy it is to get paid thousands of dollars just spending 20 mins and trap people.
@user-ll5cn1lh6v
@user-ll5cn1lh6v Ай бұрын
got into this with high hopes after watching Tyson. im dead broke now
@NawalNawal-tv3wj
@NawalNawal-tv3wj Ай бұрын
I was about to watch him 💀, is it total garbage?
@user-ll5cn1lh6v
@user-ll5cn1lh6v Ай бұрын
@@NawalNawal-tv3wj the value is really good. But don't believe the hopes
@Zester_oi
@Zester_oi Ай бұрын
It's been half a month of learning/practicing, i am ready to do the hard part should i continue or leave?
@allanfernandez7516
@allanfernandez7516 Ай бұрын
There are courses that add value to many ...but these gurus who scam other people with their courses on how to make online are the legit no 1 scammers ...thanks for talking about the facts 😂😂😂😂😂
@Armando.Sepulveda
@Armando.Sepulveda Ай бұрын
Some of them will say that if you buy a coarse you will take the training more seriously, you would be more committed whereas if you just watch KZbin videos for free that you won't take it as seriously, yes there's one who said that
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
Our problem is not with courses. The issue we have is with misleading and false promises made in an effort to exploit the young and vulnerable. That's basically the third sentence of this video.
@hotihotiiii3726
@hotihotiiii3726 Ай бұрын
UNDERRATED!
@beachlife4704
@beachlife4704 Ай бұрын
There is a Copywriting guru who charges $6k for her course. That's insane. For that price, it better come with a money back guarantee of some kind. She's turned her course into a large business and actually employs people to work for her so she's obviously doing well. Blogs seem to be her thing. But $6k is really high.
@marcusjones1110
@marcusjones1110 Ай бұрын
Who is it?
@beachlife4704
@beachlife4704 Ай бұрын
@@marcusjones1110 Sarah Turner.
@marcusjones1110
@marcusjones1110 Ай бұрын
@@beachlife4704 LOL. I heard of her. Someone mentioned on reddit how her course was a scam and a waste of time.
@alan_2006
@alan_2006 Ай бұрын
believe it or not i background check everything gurus say and most of them are lying, one guru claims he got a random stranger from homeless to 10k per month and he was on the news for it, i found out he paid for the article and the kid was never homeless, cant confirm this part 100% but im sure they are related and he got his nephew talking shi on the net
@ambertjohannes1797
@ambertjohannes1797 14 күн бұрын
Are you talking about a guy who's initials are SF ? Got scammed by the same idiot.
@ambertjohannes1797
@ambertjohannes1797 14 күн бұрын
You are talking about Sean Ferres definitely
@MiketheNerdRanger
@MiketheNerdRanger 28 күн бұрын
I always watch these kinds of videos and get deflated. I'm glad I'll no longer get scammed by these gurus, but is there really nothing I can do to become wealthy? It seems like every door is closed now.
@LazaWritesCopy
@LazaWritesCopy Ай бұрын
MATRIX!!!😂🤣 Thanks Copy That! for sharing all this with us! Love you all!
@susangutrugianios2241
@susangutrugianios2241 Ай бұрын
Thank You
@X5l00d_
@X5l00d_ 26 күн бұрын
I'm not rich and I'm in Dubai
@Sammykhan0098
@Sammykhan0098 Ай бұрын
Hello sir I'm most confused about it😢 can uhh make video on how to do it in a proper way in 2024 😢😢
@deepkumar23229
@deepkumar23229 Ай бұрын
Great video i want to ask does AI affects copywriting?
@sledgek3349
@sledgek3349 Ай бұрын
How can i understand if your patreon/course is good for my case? Ps. I'm not working in Usa right now
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
Well... have you gone through our free materials? If you have, you should have a pretty robust understanding of how to research, how to practice, how to improve, and how to begin doing some outreach. If you're in the rut of "I open word documents but I just don't know what to write!" then the patreon is not for you. So don't join the patreon until you're ready to go deeper on a certain topic--storytelling, for example, or cold email, or email sequences. You can just browse through the posts and see all the content we've put out so you can see for yourself what's relevant. But perhaps the only other reason to get the patreon is if you want one of the members of Copy That to review your copy (or outreach) live on stream and give you some professional feedback. (By the way, your copy is probably not ready for feedback until you've revised it a few times on your own.) Hopefully that helps! Good luck!
@sledgek3349
@sledgek3349 Ай бұрын
@@CopyThat yeah I saw 70% of your free material and I spent time on yt and Google learning about copywriting since 2-3 months. My problem is that I study more on yt than analysing SL and writing everyday. I know how to do research and (I hope) copy, but often I'm not sure when to start with storytelling approach or direct response or anything else. And how to choose the best position for elements in the page (l don't like to have pre template like Pas, aida). Right now I'm focusing on funnels and strategy but I need to understand better copy and maybe someone that really do revision
@nazarethpina7182
@nazarethpina7182 Ай бұрын
does anyone know if cardinal mason is a scam??
@simon.1418
@simon.1418 Ай бұрын
The dark side of copiesworting
@kerengakoleala5910
@kerengakoleala5910 Ай бұрын
"We all know he's not that much of a chad"🤣🤣🤣
@anowarjradwan
@anowarjradwan 21 күн бұрын
Well, I couldn't agree more.
@draceadanadrian
@draceadanadrian 13 күн бұрын
What do you think about Alex Cattoni?
@carsonjones3942
@carsonjones3942 Ай бұрын
The saying “invest in yourself” comes from the grifters of the 1930 & 40’s. the napoleon hills, Neville Goddards and swindlers like him. It stems from people selling courses, seminars, books and other info products. Learn how to ask “buying questions” about the product or service you’re about to pay for. If the salesperson gets flustered and pushes you towards the sale, it’s most likely not a valuable product.
@marcusjones1110
@marcusjones1110 Ай бұрын
Napoleon Hill was a grifter?!?! I'm not refuting what you are saying. I'm just asking. A lot of people recommend his book Think and Grow Rich as well as his other books. I would just like to do my research about him. Do you have any sources where I can learn about this?
@carsonjones3942
@carsonjones3942 Ай бұрын
Well the book came out in the 1930’s during the Great Depression. EVERYBODY was desperate for money, it eludes to what this video is covering, “targeting certain groups of people”. In that time, the idea “thinking to grow rich” would be very appealing. The title alone is a enough to get people intrigued as it points out a pain that most people in that time were going through (being poor) with a solution (positive thinking) and a desired outcome (being rich). It’s been documented that napoleon never knew or went into business with the people he claimed. Positive thinking is important, but during that time, who wasn’t thinking about being rich? Whatever your goals are, just believe that you can do it, take action whether it’s writing everyday or other day, reading other people’s copy etc, put yourself out there and see what happens.
@marcusjones1110
@marcusjones1110 Ай бұрын
@@carsonjones3942 Thanks for the response. You are right. During that time, I imagine a lot of people were falling for any get rich quick scheme. I'm going to look into the Napolean Hill thing. I'm not surprised really. Con men and women have been around for YEARS.
@JimmyWarnerX
@JimmyWarnerX Ай бұрын
Nice
@Inspire.rise_185
@Inspire.rise_185 Ай бұрын
You blast it i joined bunch of courses and recently i joined copy squad lite and it was way different and worth it
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
We're fans of and friends with Kyle.
@Lawrence-l6e
@Lawrence-l6e Ай бұрын
What do you think about Cardinal Mason's free course?
@hfrx
@hfrx 15 күн бұрын
guys do i need to build an email list to attract the target audience ?
@Copykingjake
@Copykingjake 5 күн бұрын
Got scammed by tyson 4d in his 1 to 1 mentorship
@jesseochimana6591
@jesseochimana6591 Ай бұрын
Hi Alex, your content is really informative and amazing! It deserves more recognition. I believe the current video editing might be holding it back. Professionally edited videos could really set you apart from others on KZbin. I’d love to help you enhance your videos to increase engagement and views.
@Armando.Sepulveda
@Armando.Sepulveda Ай бұрын
Tyson 4D has free courses unlike other gurus
@NomilkMan-fl9qx
@NomilkMan-fl9qx Ай бұрын
Alot of gurus have free courses, that's how they get you interested in the paid ones
@Armando.Sepulveda
@Armando.Sepulveda Ай бұрын
@@NomilkMan-fl9qx a lot of them do have paid courses, not all
@Cosmicmorales
@Cosmicmorales 28 күн бұрын
yeah but his free courses don’t tell you the full truth
@therealroychristian
@therealroychristian Ай бұрын
Hopefully you don't get shadow banned
@Sammykhan0098
@Sammykhan0098 Ай бұрын
Sir does copywriting works in 2024 for newbies😢
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
Aside from our 5 hour course on copywriting (go to our videos and sort by popular) We did a podcast on this topic a long time ago: kzbin.infoaiSBMTFmMaw
@BenBritton95
@BenBritton95 24 күн бұрын
I started this journey a few weeks ago and am very interested in starting my own business. I’d be happy with making a modest £30k a year. Is this feasible?
@ANISZAMOUM-ou8wo
@ANISZAMOUM-ou8wo 24 күн бұрын
I want to know if gaining thousands of dollars with copywriting is true 🙏🙏
@Henry_Skates
@Henry_Skates 28 күн бұрын
Most of them don’t even show their work. They talk most of the time no action
@crxzydaisy607
@crxzydaisy607 Ай бұрын
So alex, theres a KZbinr his name is "Tom Stoick" and he basically makes videos about copywriting. Can i trust him. Hes really popular tho
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
We won't comment on a specific guru. But Alex does give a list of warning signs at the 10:00 mark. Compare that list to his content, compare what he promises to what you get. You should be able to come to your own conclusions easily.
@rishalmuhammed.321
@rishalmuhammed.321 Ай бұрын
What did you find? Are you trusting him?
@florentosmani9443
@florentosmani9443 Ай бұрын
@@rishalmuhammed.321 he has this andrew tate style of video but his videos are actually very good , i have only heard him sell a course 1 time and he dosent have a website he said to only dm him a phrase and that was after a 2 and a half full tutorial video , he uses his rags to riches story but only about himself and he also has proof of what he says. this channel is good but i dont like that it tells you to basically kill your expectations . i think most people fail is because they think by writing the same thing they improve or their client outreach is really bad.
@AMAli-ct5df
@AMAli-ct5df Ай бұрын
I always thought they were shady
@mrslavanderblu
@mrslavanderblu 13 күн бұрын
Please use a proofreader.
@CopyThat
@CopyThat 13 күн бұрын
Oh gosh. What did we get wrong this time?
@muzamilswagger5451
@muzamilswagger5451 15 күн бұрын
thoughts about tomstoic?
@Sully_one
@Sully_one Ай бұрын
Kj rainy upcoming guru
@beybladeknights1223
@beybladeknights1223 Ай бұрын
No
@akashen911
@akashen911 Ай бұрын
What do you think of the 4D videos?
@info-hub457
@info-hub457 29 күн бұрын
Is 1.5- 2k a month a possibility doing freelancing After 4-5 months of effort in learning?
@whatifoundout
@whatifoundout Ай бұрын
I keep getting turned down..I send about 200-300 outreaches everyday (on email & social media)
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
We made this video for folks like you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ6rkHt5jNqherc
@whatifoundout
@whatifoundout Ай бұрын
@@CopyThat tysm ♥️ Edit: that means ‘Thank You So Much’ :)
@Erickdiassb
@Erickdiassb Ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but you only copy and paste the outreaches?
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
Correct: you are wrong. That's a surefire recipe for mediocre, spammy outreach, and it is not what we recommend people do.
@Erickdiassb
@Erickdiassb Ай бұрын
@@CopyThat No... I was asking the guy if that's what he did bcs writing 200 individual outreaches per day seem impossible ☠️ ik that's not what we're supposed to do
@fbryce1ify
@fbryce1ify Ай бұрын
And you tube paying more money to financial videos means people teaching others to make money are financially beneficial_
@AyeshaNaeem-yd4nu
@AyeshaNaeem-yd4nu 9 күн бұрын
what's a reasonable goal to achieve through copywriting, I really need help and I hope i can get atleast 2k a month :/
@almapeterson8646
@almapeterson8646 Ай бұрын
Does anyone know a YT channel about marketing that is somehow similar to Copy That Show? Or not similar. Just not scammy. Doesn't even have to be about marketing. I wanna expand my skillset as much as I can.
@thatWonKrnGuy
@thatWonKrnGuy Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure they have a few videos on marketing and a marketing masterclass for sale
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
We'll make more free videos on marketing strategy soon. We already have quite a few, but we tend to recommend looking at them when you're already comfortable with copywriting. This is a stream we did on marketing: kzbin.infoozDat9ErZtk?feature=share It also advertises our UGMS course (NOT suitable for beginner copywriters) which goes into depth on marketing strategy.
@Erickdiassb
@Erickdiassb Ай бұрын
This made me depressed
@bmoney3837
@bmoney3837 Ай бұрын
because you want quick results
@blee5100
@blee5100 Ай бұрын
Where can I find Sean’s OF link tho?
@Yutappy99
@Yutappy99 Ай бұрын
What about the new meta method. Which is to talk trash about some other copywriter in order to prove how legitimate they are and that they are the ones on the users' side. Not that I'm accusing Copy That! of doing this.
@CopyThat
@CopyThat Ай бұрын
It's why we don't name names. We identify legitimate and reasonable red flags and let people use them to assess and decide for themselves who's legitimate or not.
@2b_honest
@2b_honest Ай бұрын
Bro give me 4 figure. I'm happy with that infact i have a different goal but i need 5 to 6k for that project. I have about 4 months to do that. So I leaned about copywriting and now I'm looking for clients.. but ZERO clients.😅
@florentosmani9443
@florentosmani9443 Ай бұрын
watch tomstoic he is harsh but his videos are amazing .
@Isbsusuajjszu
@Isbsusuajjszu Ай бұрын
Don't do Sean like that 😢 his a Chad in our hearts
@brightpage1020
@brightpage1020 Ай бұрын
I feel like every online course or training is a get rich quick scheme because if tjey have to have that disclaimer that there are no guarantees and your success is up to you, not them, then what the hell are you paying for?!?! 🤔 better to spend a month earning a guaranteed $900 1st.
@VhantomYT
@VhantomYT Ай бұрын
Hey, I wanna start copywriting as I see it a valuable skill to have, but I don't know where to start. Where should I start?
@hannibalburess6994
@hannibalburess6994 Ай бұрын
Go to their videos and switch the filter to most popular, they have a 5 hour course
@habibimonster5218
@habibimonster5218 Ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4ixinhrrruCsM0feature=shared
@VhantomYT
@VhantomYT Ай бұрын
@@hannibalburess6994 Thank you man! I am currently in a pickle and was looking for another skill which can make me some money and help me in future as well. Copywriting seem great as skill.
@visualsbytaqi
@visualsbytaqi Ай бұрын
@@hannibalburess6994do you think learning copywriting is beneficial and can we make around 500-1000$ per month from it Please reply me if you have experience in this field I am confused if we can earn from it or not
@Asdaq454
@Asdaq454 Ай бұрын
Un-chadifying Sean was criminal
@aqeeloki
@aqeeloki Ай бұрын
I wasted 3 months....
@baxromhakim
@baxromhakim 25 күн бұрын
Lucky
@maxfrischdev
@maxfrischdev 24 күн бұрын
What about Alan Sharpe? He has a 30hr course on Udemy, which with Udemys constant discounts is very cheap. Does anyone know him/this course? (Sorry, if he is like a goat in that space, I am 99.98% new to dig. Marketing and writing 😊)
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