How could Avengers: Doomsday work?

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He's the future of the MCU. But why? And maybe more importantly how can Robert Downey Jr come back as Doctor Doom?
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[@sand4273]

When Doom says “I hate you 3000…” Chills.

[@thatoneguy57]

Ikr

[@Static-spark]

💀💀💀💀💀🥶🥶🥶

[@goonishereva]

“Avengers! We need to fall back, he’s too dangerous!” *Doctor strange’s portal appears, and Walter White steps through* “I am the danger.” *Miles swings through the portal* “What’s up, Danger?”

[@voltage_papaj860]

DOOM you looking for this

[@riikyricardo]

“That up there… that’s the Battleworld”

[@bransin]

Stage 3: Bargaining

[@jacksvendsgaard2270]

“Dormmamu, I’ve come to bargain”, Dormammu in this instance is Fiege

[@azulfuego998]

...wait according to the intro, this also means that we got the "Secret Invasion" we got because of Nando.😂

[@NandovMovies]

uhhh uhhhh no. all the other ones except that one.

[@AlexArtsHere]

@@NandovMoviesAnt-Man and the Wasp Quantumania?

[@patriciomendoza19]

I mean you'd be surprised how different a film can become because of producer notes lol

[@FunS4ck]

I can’t imagine RDJ as Doom. I genuinely cannot see it in my head

[@TheDarKn1ght25]

I honestly couldn't either until I saw someone rewrite his Lewis Strauss rant to be about Reed instead of Oppenheimer and I could see the potential

[@Zaxlz]

If it helps, he'll probably have a mask on

[@animelvr99]

I mean actors can plan many roles. So we never saw rdj as tony and yet he did it. Chris Evans did Cap after doing Johnny Storm. And so forth.

[@Comicloverstudios]

Watch Oppenheimer and RDJ is Victor Von Doom and Cillian Murphy is Reed Richards

[@johnes2337]

Nando. Please go back and listen to the song Black Sabbath - Iron Man that plays during the ending credits of Iron Man 1. The song is about a dude to travels to the past to warn people about the end of the world, only to become a frustrated Iron Man that causes the end of the world.

[@nosretepwehttam4540]

The only way RDJ works as Doom is if he never removes the mask, so he can be Doom without also being a Stark variant. RDJ and MCU Tony are awesome but their story is done. Doom is an awesome character all on his own with a storied history and fans. The RDJ-Doom story needs to be entirely separate.

[@DarthTingleBinks]

But he wouldn't be a Stark variant if we saw his face, because he's not Stark. And technically, at least as far as my own brain interprets things, variants are only alternative versions of someone from other timelines, not universes. So if RDJ Doom is from a different universe, he is definitionally not a variant, just as Chris Evans Human Torch is not a Cap variant, or how Tobey Maguire or Andrew Garfield's Spider-Men are not variants of Tom Holland's 616 Spider-Man.

[@thats4thebirds]

There’s like a zero percent chance that they bring him in and don’t use the element of his face or likeness being a factor. There were plenty of other really great actors without that angle. Even ones who’d generate hype.

[@_N4T]

2nd comment is crazy, would love a pitch for these upcoming movies before loads of info arrives and corners, or nando is bright enough to be original later on to make one soon to the real story on the big screen

[@Jadenz_]

Yeah this channel is amazing.

[@jasta5657]

I can see them creating thematic parallels between Tony Stark Doom botching to save his mother due to Reed and MCU 616 Tony Stark finding out Winter Soldier killed his parents. They might use the loss of his parents as a canon event.

[@HerbCoswellBornAgain]

Great video. As always. Alittle bit exposition heavy, but, thats okay. I honestly would love it if they did this in Doomsday and Secret Wars.

[@clearly_james7282]

the quantum bands were also in the x-men universe monica rambeau landed in binary had them both on in the post credit scene

[@NandovMovies]

Damn you're right. I mean, yes of course but let's say only the ones in our Universe work. Binary's are just for fashion. Or you also need the Ten Rings to do this. Something like that.

[@itscalledsoccer55]

I feel Feige isnt gonna make reed vs doom the center of secret wars, mainly because the movie is called Avengers: Secret Wars not just "Secret Wars", unless they want to make F4 apart of the avengers lol.

[@samhiller9519]

yesss we needed this video

[@directorjake]

If y'all think people aren't gonna be excited about RDJ Doom, go watch the crowd reaction to the reveal. Heck, I'm super interested in the story implications! It doesn't ruin Tony Stark's sacrifice, the same way Deadpool and Wolverine doesn't ruin Logan.

[@goonishereva]

It can work *AS LONG* as he is Victor Von Doom. Not a Tony Stark variant I’m still not happy with it. I’m sure RDJ will do a great job but there’s no way marvel couldn’t find a Romani actor to play Doom. They stumbled on perfect casting for Ms. Marvel from a complete unknown, surely they can do it again for Doom. It just feels cheap

[@deee71194]

I do think that people will be excited but the crowd reaction isn’t really the best way to gauge it because I’m pretty certain a lot of the hype was just because they didn’t expect RDJ to be there

[@thats4thebirds]

Wow. People at an event meant to generate hype got hype. Really shocking stuff.

[@user-gh5sd2nm5y]

@@goonisherevathey explicitly said at the reveal that he is playing Victor Von Doom. I don’t know why people are confused

[@goonishereva]

@@user-gh5sd2nm5y because there’s no way they cast RDJ without the intention of doing some Iron Man variant nonsense. It’s too important of casting to not be intentional

[@liamhemstock2286]

So, he is playing Victor Von Doom. That’s confirmed by the Russos and it seems to be this Doom is from the universe the Fantastic Four are in. So, why cast RDJ? Why not an Easter European? I agree and I would’ve preferred that BUT! There is a story here. If I’m Marvel doing Doomsday I’d have TWO stories. One is Doctor Doom in Earth 616 growing in power trying to save the multiverse (so he can rule it) and the other is his origins. Each story moves forward and the flashbacks should either be similar to or juxtapose what’s currently happening. For example, if Doom is invading Wakanda for Vibranium then we should see him in Latveria in a flashback protecting his people, making sure they rest well. If Peter is struggling over the loss of Aunt May and able to move forward we should see Doom going to heel trying to free his mother, unable to move on. When we see Doom finally wear THE mask that’s when in present day we see it come off and he looks like Tony Stark but with a scratch. I think him looking like Stark can add more to his insecurities. Before he could see himself and was embarrassed, now he can’t even see himself so he’s trying tk do more, trying to compensate by being greater then Stark to prove to Richards and himself he is superior. It should add to Doom’s insecurities. He has to share a face with an icon What I love about Doom is how he is a character based around the question “how can we be a perfectionist when we are so imperfect” I think we can explore that still.

[@ricks8_]

Nando is the only person that can make me not tottaly mad by rdj as doom

[@Zaxlz]

I haven't seen anyone else bring up the idea in speculation videos yet, but I think there's a chance that big reality tree Loki could serve a role similar to what Molecule Man(?) does in the newer Secret Wars, where he's basically the person holding Battle World together, though I'm not sure why he'd be working with Doom (or Kang prior to rewrite) at this point in his arc

[@singularrookhart7501]

I seem have a memory of someone on the "Mostly Nitpicking" podcast episode about "Far From Home" commenting derisively that Doctor Doom would have a grudge against Stark rather than Richards. Oh, if only.... 😂

[@CoraValentine1999]

If Doom manipulated Spider-Man into fighting the FF in their first interaction, that would be cool.

[@AlonsoQuesadaMartinez]

Definitely on board with the Time Runs Out template for Avengers: Doomsday. One small thing (a nitpick you might say) about the pitch is that in the Postcredits scene of The Marvels, where Monica is in the X Mansion with Beast. Binary (Monica's Mom) is wearing that universe's Quantum Bands, so they are not unique.

[@Lyger101]

With how that movie went that easy enough to ignore as not alot of folks saw the film or that ending. Easy retcon to be edited out.

[@CAPME00]

Hot take, I find it interesting that Robert Downey Junior is Dr. Doom. I want to see it.

[@TheMikeshow_]

Two vids in one day??? Thank you king 🤧

[@sdlstr91]

My only note: keep Loki and replace Molecule Man with Loki to fulfill the same role

[@Gemcitylex]

Nando, you wrote Secret Invasion?? 👀

[@singerdude1992]

Before i watch 1. Doombot. Doom is so advance in tech and magic beyond anyone that he made a bot thats beyond anyones imagination. 2. F4 are from a different universe and their accident sent them and Victor hopping to another dimension. Stark looks like doom in that universe 3. Ultron and Doom revenge😊

[@GTS-dh9wj]

Spider man Captain marvel Black panther Vs Kang the conqueror etc Avengers Annihilation Avengers the Kang dynasty Avengers Forever

[@katherinealvarez9216]

I don't know - I'm just sticking around until the Savage Lands and Young Avengers.

[@HerbCoswellBornAgain]

Correction, Waldron did watch Wandavision, it was Raimi who didnt. Just putting it out there.

[@jazelwaseem5046]

I feel like it could work and I hope it does. But I know for a fact Robert Downey Jr is going to do great if he shows off some of his acting chops.

[@animelvr99]

There's so much dislike and shock for RDJ as Doom bc ppl can only see Tony Stark. Even tho he's a great actor in his own right outside of Marvel.

[@Leahcimmichael]

It would work if the Marvel fanfare is replaced with an MF DOOM instrumental

[@authenticNL2]

No offense but you made Reed Richards into an idiot. Instead, how about a disagreement in what to sacrifice to Galactus to leave Earth alone? And the disagreement is further extended from Dr. Doom's vision to conquer the world to protect it? Reed Richards would naturally have a distrust in Dr Doom's conquest for power, which causes Doom to officially become more of a villain to Richards. Although this may be too similar to Xavier and Magneto's relationship but I don't know.

[@Pasicho]

Its probably gonna be a Doom Bot.

[@GTS-dh9wj]

Avengers Doomsday Avengers Secret wars part l & ll forever

[@jamjohn2023]

Don't think rdj will be in fantastic 4 long enough to develop any meaningful connection to the fantastic 4. That would probably cost another 100mil😅

[@animelvr99]

He may be long Thanos. At the end credits and we found out the issue was caused by Doom

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

They already botched it. The only way to smoothen this, and I'm not even saying it's gonna work, is if Doom is under the mask the whole time. Give him some of that King Baldwin aura. They botched it the moment they made the announcement. That ain't King Baldwin, that's just Tony Stark.

[@animelvr99]

Ppl would have found out anyways by IMDb

[@franciscobrito9762]

I have an interesting pitch for Doomsday. Where can i send it to nando?

[@st.commodus1437]

Drop it right here

[@artin.sodaei]

alright but killing off loki again is such a cheap move

[@melvinlinderoth7108]

Call me crazy but I don’t actually believe Nando writes all the marvel movies. He says that he has to write based on assumptions because he doesn’t know what happens in First Steps but according to himself he wrote First Steps as well. This means he’s lying about writing that and what is then to say he’s not lying about more. The real tinfoil hat theory is that he is actually just a random KZbinr who doesn’t work for Marvel at all.

[@hendrixtrippin6523]

I saw a rumor where RDJ’s doom isn’t the only doom, there’s a much dangerous doom. Is that possible?

[@CaptConnoissuer]

1 minute ago is awe inspiring

[@luis.the_sauce1769]

23 seconds ago is crazy

[@anubusx]

His casting feels desperate.

[@directorjake]

It's safe but it's gonna get everyone to go see the film. I wouldn't say desperate.

[@BON3SMcCOY]

Undeniably

[@firstlast9846]

@directorjake Bro just be honest with yourself - it’s desperate.

[@MakeVarahHappen]

I think you put too much faith into these people. I will put money on this being terrible.

[@davidm9214]

It's not going to work 😂

[@landon8657]

Ur the definition of corporate shill

[@MrFreeze12346]

Stop with the bangles…nobody likes them