How did Finnick's original reaping happen?

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Story Diver

Story Diver

4 жыл бұрын

Hi friends! This week we take a look at how Finnick's original reaping happened for the 65th Hunger Games!
Finnick is from District 4, which is a career district. It's known that these districts have tributes who train until they are 18 years old, at which point they volunteer. However, Finnick was 14 when he won his Games, which begs the question, how did his reaping occur?
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@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Hi friends! A quick reminder not to post spoilers for "The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes". The book isn't out in many countries yet, and won't be for another few weeks, so it's incredibly inconsiderate. Also, many of you have been asking when I'll make videos about it. I won't be making videos about it until the movie adaptation is released, as this firstly gives everyone time to buy and read the book, and secondly will allow us to use the secondary canon that is a movie to base ideas off of. Thank you and happy bubbles!
@marineletuppe6142
@marineletuppe6142 4 жыл бұрын
Now I definitely have to buy and read that book! I've been watching your videos for just a few days, and I keep finding more and more content on the Hunger Games, which I absolutely loved reading when I was about 13 (I read all three of them before the first film was released in DVD, having had a previous experience with the adaptation of Percy Jackson). My memory makes it almost impossible for me to forget a plot, so I usually don't find the need to re-read or re-watch something. There are a few exceptions when I just decided to re-read a book because it made a strong impression, or re-watch a series because the second season will be released soon (like the Umbrella Academy for example). I've been rewatching the films these past few days and don't find them as bad as people say, or as I found them back then (mostly due to popular opinion, I think), although the books are still way better due to the amount of details in them. I found the second film too short despite it being the longest (not enough time spend in the arena in my opinion, plus the idea of the arena being laid out as a clock was amazing and I was looking forward to seeing more being done with it). Anyway, your videos explain a lot of details, or at least theorize about them, and are very interesting to watch. Because of my studies, and because of a few other youtubers, I've been analysing, though involuntarily for the most part, plot details of films I watch and books I read, so I always find it interesting to listen to someone else analyse details some may have missed, or unexplained plot points, and try to answer questions left by the end of a book or a film.
@patfuss8998
@patfuss8998 4 жыл бұрын
Had Cato won the hunger games i wonder if he would’ve turned out like Finnick. They’re both very similar in the way the capitol favored them
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It's possible!
@animejerk05
@animejerk05 4 жыл бұрын
Doubt it in the deleted scenes Cato said In his interviews that anyone who doesn’t support the hunger games is unintelligent this shocked even a Capitol loyalist like Cesar
@desteryouo3490
@desteryouo3490 4 жыл бұрын
@@animejerk05 A person can change a lot after experiencing the hunger games, and seeing what its actually like.
@abbigaillupe3374
@abbigaillupe3374 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Luigi in the end of the games i think cato realizes hes just a pawn in the games too. i think he may have changed
@wanyekest6969
@wanyekest6969 Жыл бұрын
Doubt it, as Finnick had the allure of winning at 14 - youngest in history: “Golden Boy”
@Ad-qt8lx
@Ad-qt8lx 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being reaped and your the only possible mentors r a 14 year old, and a old lady
@exquisitetbeauty6736
@exquisitetbeauty6736 4 жыл бұрын
@Josephine Lemmens Incorrect in a way. Haymitch's mentor had died soon after Haymitch won.Again District 12 has only had four wins so Haymitch's Mentors Mentor died right after Haymitch's mentor won.
@flamez6898
@flamez6898 4 жыл бұрын
@@exquisitetbeauty6736 From what we know, Haymich never had a mentor - as it is most likely that the first victor from District 12 died soon after they won. Yes, there were only four victors, the first victor who is long dead by the first book, Haymitch, Katniss, and Peeta. This will make more sense if you have read The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, just didn't want to give any spoilers.
@KingTraceShinyHunts
@KingTraceShinyHunts 4 жыл бұрын
Exquisite T Beauty The only victor from District 12 before Haymitch disappeared after her games
@hidrat4355
@hidrat4355 4 жыл бұрын
I agree but there are very likely to more mentors district 4 is a career district
@RedditDrama455
@RedditDrama455 4 жыл бұрын
15 i think you mean
@bree6925
@bree6925 4 жыл бұрын
Katniss: “What’s with her teeth?” Haymitch: *casually* “She had them filed into points so she could rip people’s throats out.”
@missimperfectlyfine7
@missimperfectlyfine7 4 жыл бұрын
Haymitch is verrryyy nonchalant
@m.m9473
@m.m9473 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@wini2051
@wini2051 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine training for 18 years for the hunger games then a god damn 14 year old takes your place and wins Edit: damn thanks for the likes guys
@nixyboy7637
@nixyboy7637 3 жыл бұрын
lmaoo
@user-jp6zl5yd1h
@user-jp6zl5yd1h 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@Martina-ez9cj
@Martina-ez9cj 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@hogrider9245
@hogrider9245 3 жыл бұрын
ngl would be funnier if it was a 12 year old, but this is still funny! I got a chuckle outta this.
@endercupid
@endercupid 3 жыл бұрын
Just one more reason to love Finnick
@strictlykaja1928
@strictlykaja1928 4 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that even in Career districts people don't always volunteer, the volunteer percentage from D4 being rather lower than in 1 and 2. My belief is that he was reaped because Careers normally volunteer when they're 18, so I don't know why he'd risk it so much younger.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
That isn’t stated anywhere in the books or movies. It’s a smart assumption, but it’s not a known fact
@strictlykaja1928
@strictlykaja1928 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver fair enough, but I still feel it's likely what happened:)
@chibilee3037
@chibilee3037 4 жыл бұрын
District 4 boy was 13 and he died at the beginning by Cato.
@strictlykaja1928
@strictlykaja1928 4 жыл бұрын
@SIMONNE KLEIN well the books are canon so I'll believe that when I see it in the books
@GreenAxo_
@GreenAxo_ 4 жыл бұрын
Story Diver apparently many people believe that clove might have not volunteered but got reaped and no one volunteered for her.
@louisacoote2337
@louisacoote2337 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Finnick was reaped and the older careers thought he was good enough to win.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It’s possible
@Potatoesop
@Potatoesop 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone was supposed to volunteer after Finnick got reaped but got cold feet. Even if volunteering brings pride and shows honor, it is possible that cold feet does happen.
@mike64ls65
@mike64ls65 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is when finnick screams Annie in catching fire during the jabber jay part and you can hear Sam claflins accent break through
@awasapoa
@awasapoa 4 жыл бұрын
BananaMilk Ls oooooo i heard that too
@Alwaysyapping2024
@Alwaysyapping2024 3 жыл бұрын
When he says katniss for the first time you can hear it
@StephanieCThoughts
@StephanieCThoughts 4 жыл бұрын
Im wondering how 4 became a career district. I mean fishing isnt exactly the same as luxury. Food is food. Why isnt the livestock district career. Also none of the 4s mags, finnick or even annie have true career personalities. And Annie especially going crazy after her games. Perhaps most in 4 dont train as much for fame as they do for the hope of survival.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure we find out in the new book, considering what was already covered in the excerpt
@georgepownceby9053
@georgepownceby9053 4 жыл бұрын
Capitol likes district 4 because they were not as prominent in the rebellion
@StephanieCThoughts
@StephanieCThoughts 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgepownceby9053 true but I could have sworn I read in the prequel excerpt that 11 was doing well. Youd have thought they were always poor and under strict rule. It will be interesting to see how this society developed into what it became
@alvarovilla7309
@alvarovilla7309 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think they might train just in case if they are reaped, they would be prepared and not because they want to be part of the games. I think Katniss's father knew that. That's why people from District 12 and Peetas mom knew that Katniss may have a chance to win. Because in a way Katniss has been preparing even without her knowing. Prim couldn't harm an Animal put Katniss was able too for survival and to be feed. You can't stop the Hunger Games put you can prepare your kids for it.
@albertboy2774
@albertboy2774 4 жыл бұрын
@@StephanieCThoughts the capitol had to have a reason to put them in this said strict rule, so maybe 11 did something to upset the capitol.
@tdk0623
@tdk0623 4 жыл бұрын
What if katniss died at the end of her game Or what if peeta died with cato at the end
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’m working on a few videos that cover these topics 😉
@tdk0623
@tdk0623 4 жыл бұрын
YEAAS
@itsnotnate420
@itsnotnate420 4 жыл бұрын
Katniss should have been killed by thresh. Thresh only spared her life because of what she did for rue. But how did thresh know what happened then? It makes no sense. So Katniss should be dead and the rebellion failed, Cato wins the hunger games, and yeah.
@tyrinwatson7446
@tyrinwatson7446 4 жыл бұрын
When Clove was talking to Katniss before she tried to kill her I bet he was hiding on the other side of the cornucopia which means once Clove said they killed Rue he got very mad and that’s when he came out and killed Clove
@vivianshi9668
@vivianshi9668 4 жыл бұрын
NAT PG3D well after someone dies, during the night it’ll show a picture and rues was decorated with flowers, and thresh probably knew Rue was Katniss’ ally.
@lulub1433
@lulub1433 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine that maybe 4 trains for the games but does not volunteer. Maybe it just strengthens their odds when they are reaped.
@Fish_plz
@Fish_plz 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Finnick was reaped and no one volunteered because no one that was 18 had made it all the way through the academy
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It’s possible!
@rabbitsoupp
@rabbitsoupp 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that the tributes in district 4 did not all volunteer but probably only a few
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It’s possible
@addy6543
@addy6543 4 жыл бұрын
I think a select few would volunteer if they were the best for the situation, unless they volunteered early
@susannahah
@susannahah 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver It is what happens
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
SusieoftheAnna considering neither the books nor the movies state this, we can’t be sure. It’s possible, but until Collins releases more information about it, we can’t say for sure how many tributes from 4 volunteered
@NatiVereau
@NatiVereau 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver maybe we'll know more in the new book seeing it's the games where mags won
@kevinh811
@kevinh811 4 жыл бұрын
I think Mags probably deserves some credit for however Finnick changes after his hunger games. Haymitch said she was Finnick's mentor and practically raised him. And he described Mags as a wonderful lady. They made it clear Finnick cared for Mags deeply. That relationship must have impacted him.
@fantasticnerd7978
@fantasticnerd7978 4 жыл бұрын
I think at the beginning they saw Finnick as an arrogant teenager but as the games went on maybe some changed their minds about him
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It’s possible!
@gut3790
@gut3790 4 жыл бұрын
Can u also try to make a video of How did Johanna/Annie Won her games?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
There's quite a lot of information about how both of these girls won their Games in the books
@tyronepatrick8690
@tyronepatrick8690 4 жыл бұрын
I think Annie won her games by surviving a flood and Johanna purposely got a low training score and made herself seem weak then at the final few she released her strength and axed the other people to death. (I don't remember, that's what I think happened)
@taemoon1799
@taemoon1799 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyronepatrick8690 you are correct
@awasapoa
@awasapoa 4 жыл бұрын
Tyrone Patrick yah thats tru
@yamaslushy9461
@yamaslushy9461 4 жыл бұрын
How crazy would it be if Annie actually was a super evil Career and the Hunger Games made her soft and traumatized her?
@CharlieKeyzer26
@CharlieKeyzer26 4 жыл бұрын
Finnick didn’t volunteer, he was planning to volunteer when he was 18 but he was reaped when he was 14
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It’s stated he did volunteer
@chieff_T
@chieff_T 4 жыл бұрын
Story Diver where does it say that?
@ellanaa9464
@ellanaa9464 4 жыл бұрын
@@chieff_T I second that
@katelynpribula9206
@katelynpribula9206 4 жыл бұрын
Story Diver never says he volunteered. I’ve checked. And also... where does it ever list district 3 or 4 as general career tributes? Only 1-2. And 18 isn’t the only year you can volunteer like you state. There is no allowed to age for volunteering in the books kat is volunteers and she’s 16
@yusrahashim1112
@yusrahashim1112 3 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver i'm pretty sure he was reaped but was planning on volunteering when he was older. i don't think little 14 year old finnick would volunteer
@himalipatel2738
@himalipatel2738 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really think District 4 has many volunteers. They are less likely, just in my opinion.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It's possible!
@_exile8876
@_exile8876 4 жыл бұрын
I think so because theres the district 4 tribute in the first hunger games was 13
@mistyb1183
@mistyb1183 4 жыл бұрын
I think he might have gotten cocky after the hunger games being the youngest ever to win but I do not think Mags would have allowed him to have a big head and I do believe she’s the one that kept him grounded and humble and lots of areas
@shemamaonmymia
@shemamaonmymia 4 жыл бұрын
honestly i love the idea of another hunger games book exploring how a cocky career tribute who volunteered at 14 who then learns and changes into a more sombre and world-weary character due to their experience in the games (and in Finnick's case, after as well). It'd be a totally different type of character and arc than Katniss' story and honestly sounds more interesting than the young-Snow story.
@jackytan8463
@jackytan8463 4 жыл бұрын
I really like story diver cause she explains all the questions I have in the hunger games. you are doing a really good job!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@emmimiax8337
@emmimiax8337 4 жыл бұрын
You know how Snow kills everyone you love if you don't do something he tells you to? What would happen if you loved Snow?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
He would punish you in other ways. Executing your loved ones is only one form of punishment we know he uses, there are many others
@angelaphsiao
@angelaphsiao 4 жыл бұрын
Then you’d be in an abusive relationship with the president of Panem, which honestly seems like a much worse place to be in
@bree6925
@bree6925 4 жыл бұрын
Tricky tricky...
@aanya3248
@aanya3248 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Johanna didn’t love anyone anymore so they made her a prostetute
@eilishcorkery2364
@eilishcorkery2364 3 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver And he manipulated them by using Haymitch as an example because Snow killed his loved ones first after the forcefield scandal in the 2nd quarter quell
@raccoonman5451
@raccoonman5451 4 жыл бұрын
Finnick is my favorite character
@whotheheckis_ray
@whotheheckis_ray 3 жыл бұрын
I am sure Finnick is still eating sugar cubes in heaven :( WE MISS YOU FINNICK
@stephenmccarthy2517
@stephenmccarthy2517 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if he would have volunteered, but I like to believe that District 4 trains their tributes more for survival's sake rather than for pride and victory. And that only select people who think they will win will actually volunteer (like Finnick or the girl who hands Katniss flowers on their victory tour to D4.). In the first movie, the tributes from D4. look like they're somewhere between 12 - 16 , so I feel like any volunteers, 18 or not, are still rarer there than D1. and D2. I also heard, though I'm not sure if it's true, that Suzanne Collins said in an interview that the first three victors from D4. were females who won 20 years apart: Mags:11th, unknown 31st, unknown 51st, then of course we know of Finnick and Annie 65th and 70th. maybe there was more in between 51st and 65th, but I feel like a volunteer career district would also produce more than five victors within 75 years. Sorry for the long comment, I love thinking about this stuff and idk why x)
@kenneyp.9456
@kenneyp.9456 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was think , district 4 being careers for survival sakes not for honor or pride like 1 or 2
@eamparbeng
@eamparbeng 4 жыл бұрын
Word. 5 victors in 74 years worth of hunger games is unacceptable by career district standards. 5 victors is probably the amount of victors let's say district 3 or 10 would have in their respective histories
@McDreamyFan25
@McDreamyFan25 4 жыл бұрын
Finnick is my favorite male character after Peeta, although he has the reputation to be aroggant xD I think Finnick is a remarkable character. strong, confident,.. I also think that he volunteered because it just fits his nature, but I think latter he regretted this :/ ♥♥♥ very nice video :) ♥♥
@pikonooo5907
@pikonooo5907 4 жыл бұрын
Your stories and theories are really cool and interesting! The way you talk really makes me want to watch more and more and gets me really involved. Thanks for being you! I just want to watch more!!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@carterzenk7314
@carterzenk7314 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like district 4 is very different in the way they volunteer. Because in the 74th games the boy from district 4 is a little boy that gets killed by Cato in the bloodbath. I am just wondering why a weak young boy from district 4 went to the games and that an 18 year old that is done with thier training didn’t volunteer
@not_em1246
@not_em1246 3 жыл бұрын
“Yes, I’m kidding he’s a peacock a total preener” #loveHaymitch
@elianasobel3228
@elianasobel3228 4 жыл бұрын
In Katniss’ first games the district four boy was really young, too. But he was more shy from what we saw. The careers didn’t even include him in their group, and only in the books was the district 4 girl in the careers. This leads me to think district 4 doesn’t always have volunteers
@jjaayybb
@jjaayybb 4 жыл бұрын
Finnick: *is on screen* Finnick: ☺️😉😌😇 Peeta next to him: 😑🙄
@yuh-xl8sk
@yuh-xl8sk 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel a few days ago, love all this hunger games analysis. I’ve been binging all your videos and they’re all so great and interesting. Definitely happy I subscribed. :)
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I'm happy you like the channel!
@monique9711
@monique9711 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it! My favourite characters are Finnick, Primrose, and Haymitch. 💜
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@emmimiax8337
@emmimiax8337 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see much people liking Haymitch! Interesting!
@monique9711
@monique9711 4 жыл бұрын
3mer4ld_mooon 14 I love him 💗 (as a character)
@monique9711
@monique9711 4 жыл бұрын
Story Diver 💜💜
@sillychuu
@sillychuu 4 жыл бұрын
Haymitch is such a great character in my opinion I don’t know why people hate him.
@ryebread9427
@ryebread9427 4 жыл бұрын
Made me think a lot about his character... Thanks!
@teddycolours8426
@teddycolours8426 4 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming the academy’s plan who is going to volunteer every year strategically. It makes more sense to only send your number 1 best tribute instead of top two because there is only 1 victor so it’d be a waste of strength for next year to send two possible winners knowing only 1 will come home. So maybe finnicks district partner that year was an 18 year old female tribute who was their districts choice to volunteer that year thus nobody needed to volunteer for the males. Which makes more sense because finnick isn’t the type to volunteer and also it’s highly unlikely for a 14 year old to volunteer after so little years training.
@undersi597
@undersi597 4 жыл бұрын
That's really smart
@marie3322
@marie3322 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds very true
@blakekennelly3709
@blakekennelly3709 4 жыл бұрын
At 3:00 when Finnick says that, I get a shiver down my spine. 1 of the greatest lines in the movie series
@mistyb1183
@mistyb1183 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t thank district four volunteers but I do believe they are very skilled because of them being a fishing district therefore they are able to use spears, tridents, knives etc. and since they know how to swim they are a little bit more physically fit and that is why they match up with district 1and district 2
@matthewharvey9596
@matthewharvey9596 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that he probably volunteered however I wonder how the those who had trained to the age of 18 and the trainers would have felt about him doing this when he came back and he deprived someone of the chance of winning. Also what happens if more than one person volunteers?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I cover my theories about how volunteering works (including multiple volunteers) in the “Volunteering explained” video linked at the end of this one. I believe that because Finnick won, no one saw him as depriving or wasting that tribute spot. Had he volunteered and died, then it could have been seen as a waste
@o2matt403
@o2matt403 4 жыл бұрын
Was wondering the same thing. But still, if I were a bloodthirsty killer who wanted the glory before adult hood, I wouldn’t want it to be ruined by someone 4 years younger than me. They all must have been so triggered.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Berry please don’t use the word trigger as a replacement for angry. A trigger is linked to trauma. I do agree they would have been angry!
@o2matt403
@o2matt403 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver whoops, ok. thanks for the heads-up
@wellyeah9568
@wellyeah9568 4 жыл бұрын
What about annie? She for sure didn't volunteered.. so why she was in the hunger games? Why no one volunteered insted? Maybe district 4 have something wierd with their voulentiring? And if so finnick was picked before his time and didn't volunteered?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
What makes you sure she didn’t volunteer? We don’t know how her reaping went or what type of a tribute she was
@wellyeah9568
@wellyeah9568 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver Because as they pictured it in the book she only won by accident, the arena was fluted and she was the best swimmer. i think she wouldn't be able to win otherwise, because she wasn't ready to be in the hunger games, and if so, she probably didn't voluntierd *Also agnore of my grammar english is not my first language
@christinapampillonio
@christinapampillonio 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me think about Annie. She was also district 4, but she seems so fragile in the series. The games broke her so much
@eamparbeng
@eamparbeng 4 жыл бұрын
Almost every comment in this comment section and this video supports my theory of why district 4 semi-career district. Yes, some district 4 kids train like 1and 2, but some are only really included into the pack cuz they're strong from hard physical labor like Thresh and resourceful like our dear Finnick cuz the fishing industry demands the physical strength of being a fishmonger and resourcefulness to be able to supply aquatic cuisine for the country. Yes, winning the games is seen as a great honor in district 4, but not the same degree as in 1 and 2. Most district 4 kids only train just to be well prepared to win if they get reaped like Finnick . Not being brainwashed to think the hunger games are a competition of pride and honor like Cato did. And that's supported on how Annie won her games cuz she was the best swimmer, and Mags was very resourceful since she could "make a fishhook out of almost anything". Yes , district 4 careers are strong, but their actually the weakest of them. Just look how the tributes of 4 performed in the 74th hunger games. They performed worse than districts 3,5,10,11, and 12 cuz each of those districts had at least one tribute that outperformed the district 4 female that year. Pretty pitiful by career district standards. Yes, district 4 has one of the largest pools of victors in their history of hunger games as mentioned in Catching Fire, but theirs , while larger than the strongest non-career districts like 5 or 7, is smaller kinda not good compared to 1 and 2. I'd say in the first 73 years, district 1 had 11 victors, district 2 with 12, and district 4 just 8. All these theories are why districts 1 and 2 would be like "hey district 4. Yeah we know you're a career district like us, but sometimes you guys are pathetic by career tribute standards. So from now on, you're only gonna be our partners in crime if you guys are good"
@hciapetus1251
@hciapetus1251 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always viewed D-4 as the example the author used to show how a career district has evolved into becoming more rebellious against the Capitol. Basically to throw in hints that the Capitol is so corrupt that even a career district, that sided with the Capitol during the Dark Days, can change their minds and sometimes it’s a slow burn. So yah, D-4 was most likely had become more of a semi-career district. My theory for this would be that, at some point Panem history, families in D-4 became more aware at how wrong the Games were and that the Capitol was heavily corrupted. It started off small with only a few families and citizens, but the numbers grew through word-of-mouth and discovering personal experiences. Due to the increasing number of citizens no longer in support of the Capitol (but likely appearing that they are), the less children were sent in to train as career tributes. Due to the decrease of career students for training, the number of inexperienced kids being reaped increased and the rate of volunteers lowered as well. Did the Capitol realize this? Most likely. But they either didn’t care because they had the strength of two devoted districts (1 and 2), and the other districts feared them too much. It’s also likely that the wealthier and more powerful members of D-4 were still in support of them. So when someone like Finnick wins the Games, he’s praised all over Panem to keep up appearances that D-4 is 100% a career district and that they just reaped a few “bad apples”. This would cause the other districts to not really think twice about where the citizens of D-4 actually align themselves with. Which is likely why Katniss was so reluctant to trust Finnick during the third quarter quell.
@Nick-ux7zt
@Nick-ux7zt 4 жыл бұрын
HC Iapetus I see it the other way. I don’t think D4 would have supported the Capitol in the Dark Days because it seems odd that D4 would an D3 wouldn’t. I think that D4 might have had more victors early on in the history of the games because they were able to hunt (for fish) (this is supported by a line in Chapter 1 of the Ballard of Songbirds and Snakes) whereas D1 and D2 would be less self sufficient and wouldn’t have started training for the HG until after the first couple. This means that D4 would have started to get richer by having a few victors in quick succession. Then it is likely that pretended to support the Capitol or atleast were indifferent to it. It is possible that D4 became a Navy base for the Capitol and that some of their people started working for the Capitol’s armed forces. So as time went on I imagine they learned to co-exist with the Capitol and therefore aren’t treated as proper careers by D1 and D2 because they don’t believe that D4 is in support of the Capitol even if the rest of Panem do. However you do make a good argument.
@eamparbeng
@eamparbeng 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-ux7zt both your theories make a lot of sense. That Navy base theory is very accurate cuz just like how the United States had Navy Bases around the country, why wouldn't district 4. And a navy base comes jobs, which equals to money, which equals to buying power for food, which equals to happier citizens. Just like the nut in district 2.
@KacperLipa
@KacperLipa 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video as always !! 💜💜💜 I really think that Finnick voluntered ! Maybe he thought that his skills are really good, and he was a cocky teenageer ! It's highly possible ! ^^
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!!!
@wildlifephotographyfilm7407
@wildlifephotographyfilm7407 4 жыл бұрын
In the 74th hunger games, the district four boy is 12 and both tributes die early on in the games. Also, how did Mags and Annie end up in the arena? Surely if it was a carer district they would not be in there.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Mags was probably reaped as she was in an early Games. However Annie likely volunteered as by then 4 was a Career district
@Verzse27
@Verzse27 4 жыл бұрын
Are the yellow red and blue squares in the background a reference to the book colors?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
They are!!
@hidrat4355
@hidrat4355 4 жыл бұрын
In District 4 they have reapings I forgot the reason but that really how he could get in the games that young
@claudiacheng5519
@claudiacheng5519 4 жыл бұрын
I saw somewhere that it said that Finnick trained and planned to volunteer when he was 18, but got reaped which was not planned for, considering the odds.
@duckylmexican
@duckylmexican 3 жыл бұрын
My theory about this is that we know it was Mags who possibly started the Careers training program. We know of her character so it’s most likely the Career program was used mainly to reduce casualties?
@bookishinsanaty9487
@bookishinsanaty9487 4 жыл бұрын
Are you familiar with the Annie & Finnick web series here on KZbin? The actors aswell as the YT channel ''Mainstay Pro'' portray a possible past these two share and how they ended up being in the Hunger Games. It's pretty interesting and by far my favourite interpretation of these two when it comes to fan films 🥰
@jonesfamily5777
@jonesfamily5777 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought that in the carreer district like 4 there would be lots of people volunteering so I thought there were others that were volunteering with finnick but he either got to it first or had a blood relation for they never said how it was dealt out in the reapings like that. Can you do a video on if President alma coin had be come president before the 75 hunger games. For think about it how many victors would there be how many would say yes and why would the outcome be would it be a bit different or completely the same. Great video I just subscribed. Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the 76th hunger games positioned in the capitol.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I'll look into it!
@jonesfamily5777
@jonesfamily5777 4 жыл бұрын
@@StoryDiver thank you
@emanatingauras4017
@emanatingauras4017 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a theory/speculation video on how Coin managed to contact Haymitch, Finnick, and the other tributes to be in on the "Save the Mockingjay" plan? Haymitch is obviously a mentor and could probably get in contact with Plutarch, but how would tributes get in contact with Coin/13/Plutarch independently? Especially since the plan was risky enough that, according to Haymitch, it was better to leave both Katniss and Peeta in the dark about it. We know most of them were in on the plan at the very least before the tribute interview, as they tried to stop the games with their words; but it's conceivable that some of them like Beetee or Finnick were notified before they even got to the Capitol.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I've covered this a little in other videos. I would say communication happened between them and 13 through underground people, like Plutarch or Haymitch. Plutrach would have direct contact with all the tributes and victors, so he would be able to pass messages on
@jordynneastick6925
@jordynneastick6925 4 жыл бұрын
you guys should check out the story of Finnick and Annie as well as his hunger games I'm pretty sure its a fan film its on KZbin.
@ShootingStarStudio
@ShootingStarStudio Жыл бұрын
I gotta admit, I’m a little mad that they didn’t make the reaping scene into a spy movie dossier. Add a little spy music, run through all of the tributes. Would be so much cooler.
@gut3790
@gut3790 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! Im new to this channel! This made me Subscribe!,Your video is very interesting!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@stephenc7024
@stephenc7024 4 жыл бұрын
Good vid I think he volderd and also please can you do carter spotlight enabara next plz
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I've already done a character spotlight on Enobaria, it's posted on my Patreon page!
@weirdestcalebtv269
@weirdestcalebtv269 4 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how in your bloodbath video you mentioned how the career pack wouldn’t kill each other. But in the movie of the 74th hunger games Cato (district 2) slit the throat of the district 4 male with his sword. But then again he was 12 and Cato probably thought that he wouldn’t be much help for the career pack. But for some reason I feel like if that hadn’t happened and the boy survived the blood bath he would have made an ally with one of the main characters. Maybe even Foxface or Thresh, for they were alone for the entire games from the information given to the viewers.
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
There’s exceptions to every rule 😉
@gemriosorignal
@gemriosorignal 4 жыл бұрын
He does comes out in the first book just no shown until the 3rd book.
@crystalkennedy7435
@crystalkennedy7435 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos
@danielgerold7506
@danielgerold7506 3 жыл бұрын
Well I could imagine that there were a few more people volunteering and the mentors in the end handpicking the tributes
@nznkettei
@nznkettei 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they should make a book and movie on finnick games and hamitch games
@adelkaizbest2038
@adelkaizbest2038 2 жыл бұрын
I deffinitely can see him volunteering before he was officialy allowed to by the academy bcs he was arogant and thought that he was ready so there is no point in waiting until he is 18. And his own distirct must love him bcs he won and his plan worked but if he died his people would hate him for foolishly taking away chance of glory from someone older and more capable. As for Clove, it is possible that Finnick actualy made volunteering before 18 more popular bcs it worked out well for him, so after that more younger tributes were volunteering.
@TheAwsomeManny
@TheAwsomeManny 7 ай бұрын
My opinion is that he was originally training for the hunger games but got reaped at 14 and didn’t expect to go in as early as he did honestly I think district 4 trains for the games more for survival rather than honor like district 1 and 2
@ellarose_08
@ellarose_08 Жыл бұрын
I’m in love with the hunger games 🫶🏼✨🍓🔪🍉🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪
@coconutpineaple3163
@coconutpineaple3163 4 жыл бұрын
Katniss: what’s with her teeth Hamish in a calm voice: she had them filled to rip people’s throats out Katniss: *shocked* Libras: wow that’s crazy
@IIIGioGioStarIII
@IIIGioGioStarIII Жыл бұрын
I know that it's mentioned that District 4 is the poorest of the Career Districts. And also mentioned that they aren't always teamed up with the Careers. So I don't think they would have had an Academy since they were more focused with fishing. And that is an extremely dangerous career. In their school, I figured that they would teach them as regular classes how to do things like fishing, making/repairing nets, important knots, and things that you need to know for working on a boat for extended periods of time. And those skills can be transferred to survival and hunting for the Hunger Games. I can see two ways for Finek to be a participant for his game. Either he volunteered because he was being cocky and believed that he could win and escape the life of a fisherman or his name was called out and nobody volunteered for his place.
@thenorthway3467
@thenorthway3467 4 жыл бұрын
Wait! What if you had a birthday between being reaped and going into the arena?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I'll look into it!
@alvarovilla7309
@alvarovilla7309 4 жыл бұрын
I say why volunteer when you're already 18? If your name wasn't called you get to live the rest of your life now!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Remember that these children are brainwashed, they want to win the Games more than anything else. Living the rest of your life without going into the arena would be seen as a failure, and you would be seen as weak
@kenneyp.9456
@kenneyp.9456 4 жыл бұрын
In there minds they probably saw that they spent there whole lives training and preparing for the game so to them not to go in it’s just a waist of time and training
@kenneyp.9456
@kenneyp.9456 4 жыл бұрын
In there minds they probably saw that they spent there whole lives training and preparing for the game so to them not to go in it’s just a waist of time and training
@Maxilan__playlists
@Maxilan__playlists 4 жыл бұрын
Glimmer was a career tribute she was 17 Clove was a career tribute she was 15 the unnamed female career tribute was 13 (that’s what I heard) Marvel was a career tribute he was 16 and Finnick had to put his name in twice at the reaping for a year supply of supplies to help his family.
@AjaySharma65775
@AjaySharma65775 4 жыл бұрын
What if he volunteered for someone else? I mean, we know he loved Annie, what if he had a- I dunno- brother or something who was reaped?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It's possible!
@me-ht8cu
@me-ht8cu 3 жыл бұрын
What if Finnick was reaped and no one volunteered for him as they knew he was strong enough to fight
@rivo3
@rivo3 3 жыл бұрын
District 4 I think of more as an on and off career district sometimes they get careers sometimes they get kids who are reaped
@annavillarreal8444
@annavillarreal8444 2 жыл бұрын
it’s the same thing with clove, she’s 15 and from district 2
@kamenriderfourze8434
@kamenriderfourze8434 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about Blight Johannas district partner
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I'll look into it!
@x_n_x_gal9161
@x_n_x_gal9161 6 ай бұрын
It's interesting how district 4 was a career district in the books but not in the movies.
@macykeim3082
@macykeim3082 4 жыл бұрын
In the first games Cato killed the boy from district 4 which is a career district. also the boy from district 4 was 12 if you look on the screen where it shows cloves age. but the boy was scared of cato so i don’t think he would volunteer?
@trentonwelsh6859
@trentonwelsh6859 4 жыл бұрын
My understanding of the academies is 1 and 2 are graduating and volunteering. Its more likely that people who train in other districts are wealthy who train their children to increase survival
@baileyb234
@baileyb234 4 жыл бұрын
I have one. What if mags didn't vollunteer for Annie in the 3rd quarter quell reaping? ( I don't know if you have done this or not cause I actually don't know much about this channel and the videos )
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I have already done this 😉
@AtiDeBeer
@AtiDeBeer 4 жыл бұрын
i still dont know what cato ment when he said ''im already dead'' at the end from the 74th hungergames
@emmimiax8337
@emmimiax8337 4 жыл бұрын
I think he probably knew Katniss or possibly Peeta would win.
@deachris03
@deachris03 4 жыл бұрын
He knew he would die
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It means he realised he had no chance of surviving, he was basically dead at this point
@killianglynn780
@killianglynn780 4 жыл бұрын
Apart from the obvious interpretation, I like to think that Cato realized that he'd had his humanity stripped from him by his preparation and participation for and in the Games. Even if he somehow won, he would be hollow and removed from everything around him - an empty shell.
@indie267
@indie267 4 жыл бұрын
Some believe this meant that because Clove was gone he’s was already gone too
@luiszelayandia9964
@luiszelayandia9964 4 жыл бұрын
i thought that in the movies they changed it so that only districts 1 and 2 are careers, district 4 is only in the books
@emilyminassian9
@emilyminassian9 4 жыл бұрын
I would want to be in a career district because if I got picked someone would just volunteer for me 😂
@Diego-mg6wh
@Diego-mg6wh 4 жыл бұрын
did he meet annie after being in the hunger games or in it possible that he volunteered for her?
@minus_the_boss9714
@minus_the_boss9714 3 жыл бұрын
I was watching this video and looking at district 4 and in the 74th Hunger games there is a 1/ year old boy in District 4. This confused me so much because like you said that most likely people would volunteer for him. Looking how he acts I don’t think he would volunteer so this just confused me so much so @-@
@hollyboone6708
@hollyboone6708 4 жыл бұрын
Even though district 4 was a career district it was not favourited by the capitol because unlike districts like district 1 the produce does not make them splendidly happy for example district 2 gave them peace keepers which allowed them to keep the districts under control which allowed them to live how they did where district 4 only provided some food which they already had a abundance of.
@mistyb1183
@mistyb1183 4 жыл бұрын
The way I always see it is that for is the honorary career district it is not like one and two and where the people from four don’t actually volunteer they don’t train and a special Academy they just do the work of a fishing person that is why they are very good at using tridents or even a spear they would be good with knives nets they be able to fashion lots of traps and that is why they are viewed valuable because even in the book they killed the district four tribute so they aren’t always in the career pack
@mistyb1183
@mistyb1183 4 жыл бұрын
And that will explain why they actually rebelled very easily in district 4 even before the quarter quail
@mistyb1183
@mistyb1183 4 жыл бұрын
I only think he only portrays that aspect because deep down with all the stuff he has gone through he has to put a smile on his face he can’t let the things that have happened to him let him down so if he acts very bold and very strong it makes him feel stronger on the inside that is somewhat explained in Mockingjay when he tells all the stories of all the people of all the things he knows through all the secrets he’s collected
@paulvanginkel4720
@paulvanginkel4720 3 жыл бұрын
You have a creeper on your shelf. I shall now subscribe.
@beefnomnom6945
@beefnomnom6945 4 жыл бұрын
Also I’m sure every year more than one person volunteers how would the district choose who goes? I’m sure they would let the people who are oldest first because the others have another year to volunteer but what about the older children? How will the district choose which child goes?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I have a video about this called "volunteering explained"!
@katharinahanke4452
@katharinahanke4452 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the scene at 3:11 from?
@juniper6883
@juniper6883 4 жыл бұрын
It's from one of the Mocking Jay movies. I think the second one.
@AlexanderMarchesaine
@AlexanderMarchesaine 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe district four is a bit different from the more favored districts (1 and 2). Maybe they reap like everyone else.
@Ami-zi6si
@Ami-zi6si 4 жыл бұрын
I think volounteering relatively young is a common practice in the career districs, perhaps only rarely as young as 14, but the earlier you start volounteering the more years you have the chance to become a tribute and thus more likely to get the chamce to bring honor to your district.
@grahamfaulkner3969
@grahamfaulkner3969 4 жыл бұрын
What if Peet was saved from district 13 and Katniss was capture by Snow what would happen to both of them?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I’m working on this idea already 😉
@rjstacker1734
@rjstacker1734 Жыл бұрын
The district 4 tribute for the 74th games was 12
@jxllyous3142
@jxllyous3142 4 жыл бұрын
I’m just wondering.. Can you volunteer for a volunteer?
@emmimiax8337
@emmimiax8337 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering that too!
@madethistocomment727
@madethistocomment727 4 жыл бұрын
She made a video about volunteering. I think it was called "volunteering explained"
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I've covered this in my "Volunteering explained" video 😉
@andoew1767
@andoew1767 4 жыл бұрын
Hope to see this in the prequel book like in the tenth games there was a poor 14 year old that volunteered for a rich 18 year old in district one but then some random 18 year old person volunteered for the volunteer,in the prequel the mentor of the district 1 male tribute had a mother that owned a bank. maybe the prequel will still suck though😰
@andoew1767
@andoew1767 4 жыл бұрын
@Mantha Mantha maybe the first Victor from district 12 was rummage lorman.
@c.alexander2380
@c.alexander2380 4 жыл бұрын
Since there were so many volunteers. The academy selects who was the best
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
It's very possible!
@nmoney6655
@nmoney6655 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Finnick and Annie’s kids get to go in the arena just to win like their parents
@marie3322
@marie3322 4 жыл бұрын
What movie is the clip at 4:11 from?
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
Catching Fire
@marie3322
@marie3322 4 жыл бұрын
Story Diver ok thanks
@ethypoo
@ethypoo 4 жыл бұрын
i’m confused that in the movies that district 4 isn't in the career team...
@GarrettHampton2004
@GarrettHampton2004 2 жыл бұрын
They aren’t a career team in the 74th games because they were very weak and unreliable and young, and in the 75th games district 4 was apart of the rebel plan
@DanielleLouise
@DanielleLouise 4 жыл бұрын
What if many people volunteer at once? if so many are being trained in the career districts there has to be more than one who wants to volunteer. Just a question I've always had
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I have a video that civers this called "Volunteering explained"!
@KombatW0mbat
@KombatW0mbat Жыл бұрын
I bet everyone facepalmed when he volunteered. They probs were like “he’ll make it to the final 5 but he’s dead”
@carynhamm7304
@carynhamm7304 4 жыл бұрын
How would this relate to annie winning her games?
@rhiannon113
@rhiannon113 4 жыл бұрын
What would happen if more than one person volunteered at the same time? Obviously this would only happen in the Career districts, but couldn’t there be more than one cocky person who thought it ought to be there turn? Thanks for the video!!
@StoryDiver
@StoryDiver 4 жыл бұрын
I cover this in my "Volunteering Explained" video 😉
@ivykennedy8889
@ivykennedy8889 4 жыл бұрын
What if Katniss was the one to die to the spear and Rue livied pls do a video
@emmaridd284
@emmaridd284 4 жыл бұрын
The thing that just got me is that Finnick was 24 in the hunger games. That is younger then me. I suppose the movies made me just assume he is older
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