How did North Africa Communicate with the rest of Africa? - Ancient and Medieval Africa

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[@vanivanov9571]

Umm, we have a papyrus document of camel agents existing, with many camels they rent out to farmers and travellers, back in third century BC Egypt. So clearly Africa has been using camels long before the 3rd century AD, and there's no reason to suspect they weren't used in Saharan transnavigation. So the boom in Saharan trade was likely due to something unrelated to camels.

[@Dimitriterrorman]

Such videos greatly help to show that the world was alot more interconnected in the past than what most thing!

[@lerneanlion]

If the Mali Empire managed to discover the New World before the Europeans, does this mean the Trans-Saharan trade route will get preserved for more use?

[@stefansmiljanic1697]

I don't think so as at that point it would be cheaper to transport it by sea tho slavery could have been different, with more africans owning other africans possibly even other people like the romans did and there would be no sense for christians to regard african people as inferior thus europe could have never used slaves

[@lerneanlion]

@@stefansmiljanic1697 Well, that means no American Civil War and racism, right?

[@lanetomkow6885]

@@lerneanlion Somebody ran out of crayons to eat.

[@stretchybacon1]

@@lanetomkow6885someone ran out of people to hate on

[@marusdod3685]

if Mali people had managed to invent a "Boat" they wouldn't need camels in the first place

[@brokenbridge6316]

This was a nice look into a little-talked about trade route that obviously had big implications in world history.

[@puraLusa]

It's because of this trade route who used the stars to navigate thru the desert that the portuguese were able to cross the oceans. That's how important it is.

[@PhoenixGamerxx9613]

Like the Eurasia trade route of silk for Europe from Asia from the 130BC till the mid-15th century was just the same as the Trans-Saharan trade route was for Europe and Africa to trade with each other. Such relevancy.

[@Kr4zYm0f0]

are youreferring to the silk road or shipping routes?

[@PhoenixGamerxx9613]

@@Kr4zYm0f0 Silk road. It was a trade route from Europe and Asia and vice versa.

[@Kr4zYm0f0]

@@PhoenixGamerxx9613 thats way older than the 15th and 16th century

[@PhoenixGamerxx9613]

@@Kr4zYm0f0 I was partial right. It start in the 2nd century BC up till the mid-15th century. Not the 16th century.

[@dasupremehusky]

Imagine how crazy this would be if Sub-Saharan Africa had access to the Silk Road.

[@ingwetheafricansoldier9868]

It did have coastal trade with the east in the swahili coast.

[@jsudlow12]

I didn’t know that I needed this information when I woke up

[@matthewmann8969]

Through certain valleys, trails, leads, deserts. paths, and frontiers with caravans and constant onlookers yeah.

[@Sayswho1]

Lovely to see Kano ❤

[@Corndogg316]

Great video. Illustrates how religion was often more of a political convenience then a deeply held belief.

[@puraLusa]

It still is used in the same fashion. The practicians just don't notice.

[@vanivanov9571]

Umm, we have a papyrus document of camel agents existing, with many camels they rent out to farmers and travellers, back in third century BC Egypt. So clearly Africa has been using camels long before the 3rd century AD, and there's no reason to suspect they weren't used in Saharan transnavigation. So the boom in Saharan trade was likely due to something unrelated to camels.

[@muslimresponse103]

it was the Muslim Arabs because unlike the romans or greeks who controlled some parts of north Africa, the Arab Muslims controlled all of north Africa for centuries and were familiar with camels and the desert unlike the romans and greeks. also the Muslim Arabs assimilated with the native local peoples, marrying with locals and sharing their religion which motivated them to go further into Africa. please don’t use AD and BC unless you are a christian. instead use CE and BCE

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing 🤩🤩

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

Yes. 👍.

[@jovanweismiller7114]

I'm curious as to why used Asian Bactrian camels to illustrate the video instead of the African Dromedaries that were actually used on the routes.

[@iblamerayane]

You do realise that north Africa isn't black?

[@samanth.]

​@@iblamerayanethat's y they were conqured by everyone

[@iblamerayane]

@samanth. that's not true at all north Africa is more homogeneous than what you think Also north African blood didn't mix with colonizers + we are the ones who colonized not the opposite

[@abdulazizbature2615]

@@iblamerayanehe was talking about camels 🐪🐫

[@samanth.]

@iblamerayane it mixed heavily, what r u talking about, the white north Africans r descendants of white slaves & jews who converted to islam, north Africa is very mixed & not pure at all, they have never won any war, not a single one & were conqured by everyone since the stone age

[@muscledavis5434]

I have a question: is ~300 AD the first evidence of camel riding in general or only in the Sahara? I find that highly interesting, since i would've expected camels to be domesticated and used for transport waaay earlier😮

[@ТуркаганАзиахан]

6000 лет назад - верблюды арабов. они дрались поэтому написали Коран для наведения порядка.

[@raidzepplin2878]

I don't think so, the Himyarites had camel cavalry I think.

[@benjaminwatt2436]

I think he only meant for traversing the Sahara, camels were definately domesticated way before that. there are lot of documents of camals being used as early as the bronze age

[@WadaniSamaale]

Somalis had camels much longer than that as did many others. The KZbinr said it was the first evidence of camels being used to conduct trade. Not first domesticated.

[@ChiChiLand299]

Europeans conquered each other for centuries for the same reason, so don't act like their reasons for conquering Africa were purely ideologically and racially motivated. Since the Africans would have done the same thing to Europe if they were the more advanced powerful civilization. And none of those people's ancestors that lived in European countries where ever considered when a monarch took over newland. I see everybody is equal and they all equally do bad things because humans are humans

[@julybeeb4614]

North Africa was more advanced then Europe at that time. Where civilization, math, science was second to best after Mddle East. North Africans where not fueled with racism and conquar as Europeans are.

[@ChiChiLand299]

@@julybeeb4614 I do not know where you heard that but that's complete bull lol Where were their cannons where were their steel where were their sailboats they weren't there and they were just as racist and lust to conquer as the Europeans they had even more slaves in the Europeans they're the ones who preached that blacks were not the same which is what allowed them to be slaves even though they were Muslims, they even captured tons of white Europeans and sold them into slavery which breeds racism so all the stuff you just said is complete bull

[@ChiChiLand299]

@@julybeeb4614 everything you just said is complete bull, lol If you're talking about the Muslims they literally created an Empire that stretched from Spain and Portugal that they conquered from native Europeans all the way out to the border of India which they were busy wiping out the zoroastrians, which they enslaved countless millions of people of different ethnicities which you can only do through racism that it breeds, which they said that blacks were not the same which is what allowed them to enslave fellow Muslims. If you're talking about the sub-Saharan where were their sailboats where were their cannons where were their steal that they made instead of trading for it, and they're countless millions of slaves that they sold like cattle that they saw as inferior to themselves which even today many African tribes see other tribes is inferior beast that they have no problem killing. The Mali Empire that literally killed millions of people in Concord many thousands of miles, for every one building the Africans built the Europeans built a thousand for every one University they had they had a hundred. Everything you just said is bull and I don't know who told you that other than somebody who clearly had an agenda to preach rather than history to teach

[@lanetomkow6885]

Fantastic!

[@istlmstost781]

Thanks for video, which app do you use for maps? It's cool

[@YasserMaghribi]

5:10 thank you for depicting my people the Berbers as fair skinned men, not as black like Netflix loves to do (with Hannibal, king Juba, ...) 5:50 true, Berbers (mainly from today's Morocco) were the one behind the islamisation of West Africa and South-Western Europe

[@gene0714]

Berbers were the cancer of the Mediterranean sea

[@dtttmr964]

Mainly from Algeria you mean ...WE have many berber tribes

[@specialone3209]

​@@dtttmr964at that time Morocco had a larger land stretched from tangier to Senegal river..so it's correct to say Morocco. Even the Maldives are Muslims because of the Moroccan Explorer bou al barakat yousef al barbari

[@Yahya-sb1yo]

​@@gene0714I think that you misspelled Spain and france

[@gene0714]

@@Yahya-sb1yo not in the Mediterrain

[@julybeeb4614]

Im native North African. What people dont know is that Amazigh tribes of the north of Africa basicly stayed in the same area for thousends of years, while Amazigh of the south migrated alot from to southern of Africa for thousends of years to set up shop.

[@ralambosontiavina7372]

Excellent work and narration !

[@mutiny_on_the_bounty]

Do you have a Rumble channel?

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

First too and two times. All at the same time.

[@robertnaaz1697]

From what book did you use your sources?

[@quentenwalker1385]

Good video. Camels in Africa are all single humped, not double as you showed on your diagrams.

[@theawesomeman9821]

Life is so much better with cargo jets

[@wordbankian]

They used the dromedary (one hump) camels, not bactrian (two hump).

[@tctheunbeliever]

Yeah, I was kinda wondering about that picture.

[@leegrand3510]

we need the story of portugal

[@puraLusa]

There are plenty of youtube videos about portugal.

[@usererrer7493]

Those little camel icons you used were Bactrian camels. They don't belong in the Sahara.

[@ohadish]

1:10 ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

lift up the base triangle pryramid is 2way in 1 way down south africa full stop wave bye jump..

[@farkastoth9694]

There are two species of camel! The African is the dromedary with only one hump.

[@skp8748]

Somali*

[@Yahya-sb1yo]

​@@skp8748holy shit this honrner kids

[@chefar]

Algeria was Morocco/Tunisia province back then.

[@Someone-by6jm]

Source?

[@ahmedaoulmi2136]

Morocco was ruled by Algerians all the time.. almohads marinids maghrawis.. almoravids were mauritanians..

[@amehak1922]

First comment

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

🇺🇸🌎👍❤

[@anthonyminimum]

1:19 Atun-Shei Johnny Reb labeled as Democrats: “BLACK NORTH AFRICAN SLAVES!! BLACK NORTH AFRICAN SLAVES!!”

[@AfricanMaverick]

Americans try not to make everything about themselves challenge

[@nicolaenicolae3289]

❤

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

I am shocked that camels weren't used in North Africa before the 3rd century! Why not earlier?

[@puraLusa]

Im sceptical. Big chance that was sooner but evidence got lost.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@puraLusa Yeah, that must have been what happened.

[@julybeeb4614]

​@@MatthewTheWandererbecause camels are not native North Africa. They got imported by egyptians around 3000 bc into North Africa. Amazigh aka Berbers had horses at the time as transport.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@julybeeb4614 That's still a LONG time before the 3rd century.

[@zakariyaabdullahi5669]

@@MatthewTheWanderer They were used, but I think camels weren't very useful until the invention of a very specifically designed camel saddle that allowed them to be used to carry heavy goods over long distances. After the invention of the camel saddle, the sahara that was nearly an impenetrable barrier became a hub of trade and the trans saharan trade exploded. Even in the middle east and asia we see wagons and horse drawn carts become irrelevant with the wide spread use of the camel. The use of the camel definitely changed the entire game

[@abdellahbenoudi1382]

We Are Not Berbers, But We Are Amazighian Peoples.

[@jetorixjones]

I never knew they were trading trans in the Sahara. This must be stopped!

[@Mahhistory]

hi i am fearst

[@TheGerogero]

S L A V E T R A D E

[@lost_porkchop]

On behalf of all Portuguese, I just want to say don't hate the player, hate the game

[@Yahya-sb1yo]

Why would they be hated when they made stuff easier

[@AustinSauce3]

Well the Portuguese did fight horrible wars against their African colonies as late as the 1970’s

[@lost_porkchop]

@@AustinSauce3 Courtesy of our right wing government trying to hold on to the past

[@EstaJeanette-nk7fj]

When the player does not play fair. Even you would hate the player. Idiot.

[@thevisitor1012]

Moroccans: "ok"

[@Mysteriesofpolitics]

The maps are incredibly inacurate as they show europe being bigger than the sahara which is completely false as the sahara is double the size of europe.

[@jamesblackshaw132]

Europe and Central Africa wanting to trade with each other Sub-Sahara Africa: am i a joke to you both

[@parscompacta9241]

According to AU there is no such thing as 'Sub-Saharan Africa'. That only exists in the minds of Europeans. Ask the owners of the land... there is only North, South, East, West & Central Africa. Same nomenclature as Asia, Americas & Europe.

[@alimo3011]

@@parscompacta9241also north Sudan& horn. What I call Afro Red Sea civilizations

[@Taharquathegreat]

@@iblamerayaneYou arabs we’re not in africa before 6th century, hence why in ancient Egypt the statues, wall painting , culture and language looks like black african civilsiation. That is also why the greeks described ancient Egyptians as black african. You arabs are desperate to find proof of being indegnious to north africa but you can’t hence why you are a confused people. One minute you claim berber, next amazing then arab ect.. Your all outsiders.

[@iblamerayane]

@Taharquathegreat berbers been living in north Africa for 10000 year lol You can't denie anthropology and archeology

[@Taharquathegreat]

@@iblamerayane Blacks africnas been living in North africa since humanity was created you can’t deny anthropology. Lol I showed you DNA proof of the pharoah’s race. Can you do the same?

[@sapnupuas4017]

People actually think that wh!te people invented slavery and POC never committed atrocities 😭

[@supahotjoe6493]

Why did all the ancient greeks call ancient egyptians Black? according to the following eyewitness: Eyewitness to ancient egyptian phenotype: Herodotus: The ancient Greek historian who lived in the 5th century BCE described the ancient Egyptians as having black skin and woolly hair in his work "Histories." Strabo: The ancient Greek geographer and historian who lived in the 1st century BCE described the Ethiopians (a term that could refer to people from various parts of Africa) as having black skin and woolly hair, and noted that some people considered the Egyptians to be of the same race. Diodorus Siculus: The ancient Greek historian who lived in the 1st century BCE described the Ethiopians as having dark skin and curly hair, and noted that some people considered the Egyptians to be of the same race. Plutarch: The ancient Greek philosopher and historian who lived in the 1st and 2nd centuries CE wrote that the Egyptians were "black with heat" due to the climate of their homeland. Al-Masudi: The 10th-century Arab historian and geographer described the ancient Egyptians as "a black people, different-looking and woolly-haired." Jean-Francois Champollion: The 19th-century French scholar who deciphered the hieroglyphs of ancient Egypt noted that some ancient Egyptians depicted themselves with darker skin tones than those of their neighbors. Herodotus: "Histories," Book II, Chapter 22. Available online: classics.mit.edu/Herodotus/history.2.ii.html Strabo: "Geography," Book XVI, Chapter 4, Section 7. Available online: penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Strabo/16D*.html#4.7 When you on the website go paragraph 8 then 1 where he confirms the Aksumite colonization of southern arabia (Yemen) Diodorus Siculus: "Library of History," Book III, Chapter 2, Sections 1-3. Available online: penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Diodorus_Siculus/3A*.html#2.1 Plutarch: "Isis and Osiris," 77. Available online: penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Moralia/Isis_and_Osiris*/B.html#77 Al-Masudi: "The Meadows of Gold," Volume 1, Chapter 3. Available online: archive.org/details/travelsalmes00masuuoft/page/52/mode/2up Jean-Francois Champollion: "Lettre à M. Dacier relative à l'alphabet des hiéroglyphes phonétiques," 1822. Available online: gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5636837p/f9.item Herodotus: The description of the Egyptians as having "black skin and woolly hair" can be found in Book II, Chapter 22, which begins with the sentence "For my part I hold that the Colchians, the Egyptians, and the Ethiopians..." Al-Masudi: The passage describing the Egyptians as "the darkest of all humans" can be found in Volume 1, Chapter 3, on page 52 of the edition I consulted. Jean-Francois Champollion: In his "Lettre à M. Dacier relative à l'alphabet des hiéroglyphes phonétiques," Champollion does not use the term "black" to describe the ancient Egyptians. Rather, he argues that they were of African origin, based on linguistic and cultural evidence. The full text can be found at the link I provided earlier. I guess al Masudi, Strabo, aristotle diodorus sicilus and plutarch are not credible too huh? What about the man who deciphered the hieroglyphs himself calling them negro africans, Jean Francois champollignon? You Euro-centrist are absolutely delusional.

[@ZK-7]

Cope. Pick a culture and stick with it. You can’t claim everything.

[@CurtisThomas-l9p]

As usual the brainwashed ws chimes in

[@julybeeb4614]

​@IStevenSeagalramses was not Egyptian he was of Amazigh Berber origin from Libya. He was white with ginger hair. There are black, brown and white egyptians just like rest of North Africa.

[@supahotjoe6493]

​@@ZK-7 . I'm not a black american dummy. I got two parents of Bamileke/Bamoun origin who migrated from the Nile valley during the 11th century and this why our mother language Medu Mba sounds almost 1:1 with Medu netjer which is the language ancient egyptians spoke and called their writing script and it explains why greeks called their writing script hieroglyph which means sacred carvings.

[@kleinenfuchse5365]

Everybody trans these days huh? Even the Sahara. Jesus Christ

[@danielbassey963]

W

[@benjaminwatt2436]

hahahaha

[@Yahya-sb1yo]

Lol

[@patrickols]

That was funny

[@maddogbasil]

*As Always the horn of africa which literally held one of the richest coastlines in african history gets left out* 🤦🤦 Mogadishu, berbera, Bossaso, zaylac These regions saw some of the greatest moments in medieval islamic african history, classical antiquity and evem ancient bronze age and much further

[@majorfallacy5926]

this is a video about the sahara, not anyone's greatness

[@fallendown8828]

Horn of Africa is nowhere near Sahara, you are in the wrong video buddy

[@Yahya-sb1yo]

North Africa was more relevant in anyways, and this isn't the video to brag abt anyone's greatness, I think you're in the wrong place

[@kleinenfuchse5365]

Look at that, we got ourselves a stanky brainfart 🤡

[@maddogbasil]

@@Yahya-sb1yo horn of Africa is older than North Africa but your right this is technically about the Sahara I'll give you that

[@boozel8620]

First

[@КристиянГарев]

First.

[@John-pk9rw]

It’s called Tunisia, not Hafsids. Hafsids are a dynasty, not a country. There was never a country called Hafsids.

[@lost_porkchop]

For babies, hafsids is way better than fulsids

[@Yahya-sb1yo]

There was, most countries in Islamic world were called by their dynasty names

[@thedstorm8922]

It was called ifrikia not Tunisia

[@John-pk9rw]

@@thedstorm8922 1. It’s Africa not ifrikia 2. Nope Tunisia was never called Africa.

[@thedstorm8922]

@@John-pk9rw lol then you knew nothing of history

[@firas47482]

*Amazigh not berbers

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

All those faith Islamic Barbarians actions of 5 past Islamic empires committed by them .where historical records witnessed in Middle East, North Africa, Middle Asia, Asia minor, and Balkan by Islamic armies and emirates ...are they occurred in March planet? If your respectful channel labels the security of trade roads and merchant securities... the same phenomenon was found during the Mongol empire ruling

[@Someone-by6jm]

What the fuck are you trying to say, English please

[@RonnieDeVeyra.]

Africa doesn't practice slavery the Europeans introduce it

[@EEM_4]

Everyone practiced slavery at the time in fact the slaves were sold from African to the European’s soo who esnlaved those ppl? There own flesh and blood that’s who Africans enslaved other African’s that’s just how the world was at the time

[@puraLusa]

😂 Sure thing buddy. Before the europeans arrived they were all love and rainbows hippie style 😂

[@julybeeb4614]

​@@puraLusathe truth North Africa is much older civilization then Europe and never had slaves. Slavery is European thing.

[@puraLusa]

@@julybeeb4614 lmao. The level of ignorance is a good joke.

[@julybeeb4614]

@@puraLusa its not ignorance its the truth. You can't accept that Europeans are the first racist and most. Hope you realise and open your hearth to truth and accept it that some people are different then others.

[@chickenwityamz]

Understand that these were the cursed descendants of Shem. God condemned them but promised to restore them. We are now living in that time period.

[@danielbassey963]

Lmaoooooo

[@chickenwityamz]

@@danielbassey963 You wouldn’t even respond if deep down you didn’t feel it could be true. You know it’s true and it’s okay

[@ahmedaoulmi2136]

That's only written in your corrupted book.. this never happened

[@chickenwityamz]

@@ahmedaoulmi2136 Muslim? Children of Israel are in the Quran as well buddy

[@kalenooc4938]

Hello your literally ignored ajuran sultanate

[@skp8748]

Even well before that 😂😂 most camels in the world aka trans saharan

[@Yahya-sb1yo]

You*

[@ibrahimsuleiman8473]

East Africa trade was by sea.

[@alimo3011]

Very lil to do with trans Sahara. And their trade with mostly with Indian sub continent and Egypt/Syria(by ship)

[@Ppoim]

Maps names en borders are not correct, for morroco example

[@Yahya-sb1yo]

I think the map was of the pre songhay invasion, since morocco was a bit bigger

[@hazse1464]

Morocco in the 16th century stretched from Tangiers to the city of Gao, in nowadays Mali.

[@kevinsuggs1]

The Sub Saharan Africans never developed phonetic written language, the wheel, etc... and most of Africa didn't have these until Colonialism in the late 1800s. The cultural exchange from Europe into Africa is the greatest exchange in human history to the point Sub Saharan Africa is more Culturally European than African. And it all began with the Saharan trades, being able to write things down made the Islamic sub Saharans way more advanced than their neighbors which lead to Empire.

[@skp8748]

Huh wdym by sub Saharan because none of that applies to the horn...

[@kevinsuggs1]

@@skp8748 Partly true. The people in the Horn of Africa did have the wheel, they built stone homes, they never developed their own alphabet but they are an exception when it comes to Sub Saharan Africans. Also there is 1 stone building in Zimbabwe that was built by sub Saharans independently. Also some people don't exactly view Ethnic Horn Africans(non Bantus) as Sub Saharan Africans, but that's debatable.

[@skp8748]

@@kevinsuggs1 geez? What alphabet did the Brits have before the Romans?

[@skp8748]

@@kevinsuggs1 I don't think so either because they're genetically not the same not to mention linguistically or culturally as they were isolated from eachother for millennia because of geography then later in resistance to Bantu expansion. One is seafaring, nomadic and mercantile but much more hawkish for it compared to the agrarian, communal and sedentary than the bantus who came from such resource rich terrain there was no impetus to trade, demarcate/legislate property rights or develop command structures necessary for warfare.

[@Bumbaclart247]

Absolutely incorrect - they had geez, nsibidi, meriotic and range of others I can’t recall for the top of my head. They had the wheel, you can literally google it. Read Europeans descriptions of the Kingdom of Benin and the Great Wall of Benin, or read the Mali Empires written constitution of law called the Manden Charter. Please educate yourself before spurting ignorance and nonsense

[@ТуркаганАзиахан]

транс-изомерный сахар.

[@tiktokchikh_31]

Morroco didn't exist in 1500 1800 Was created in 1900 also the maps are completely wrong

[@LarbiLatoui]

😂😂😂😂😂 Read some history little kid Morocco is the first nation to regonize united state of America in 1777

[@tiktokchikh_31]

@@LarbiLatoui it's not morroco it's cherifian Dynastie

[@Yahya-sb1yo]

​@@tiktokchikh_31did your mother drop you as a baby, you little tiktok kid?

[@Jadido7]

dear algerians, I see you telling the whole world that morocco didn't existed before the 20th century... well you cannot change history that is recognized everywhere and is present in every university just by writing youtube comments ... your only success is to show yourselves as ignorants ... may be one day you must realize that you have been living under heavy propaganda since boumedian times

[@hazse1464]

​@@tiktokchikh_31no it was called Morocco...treaties signed with foreign powers in 16th and 17th century use the name Morocco.

[@nikolamusovic180]

First