How Did Scottie Pippen Do Against Larry Bird ?

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[@toddtaylor4238]

Pippen is my all time favorite player, but let's be honest Larry Bird is in another class.

[@williamgayton1938]

Agree! Larry was the guy while pip was a sidekick

[@finnburke2709]

BM 20 bird in his prime is top 5 at least top 7 what r u talking about not saying pippen isn’t top 50 even top 40 just saying bird is definitely far better

[@MichaelMitchell-eo6cb]

Both Great!!

[@goatkyrieyt6147]

Ofc

[@DL-tp2nr]

Only the top three won three back to back MVPs

[@TheWarfen]

The only thing that could stop Bird was his back

[@counterstrike89]

I know its a joke, Bird was not even healthy.

[@musenenlightened1984]

He did it fixing his mother’s house!!! Imagine if he hired someone to do the work instead of him!!!

[@3313-c2j]

Goes to show you how much Larry Bird was, was at the end of his career with, a hurt back,and bird still had better stats than Scottie,

[@abrahamjackson6019]

Fact is , one of the GOATS was indeed getting old, but still remain an mean M.F

[@Patriot2332]

Yeah in the end it stopped him. I have had 3 back surgeries and spent a year in a wheelchair. I have a whole new respect for Mr. Larry Bird, I know the pain that man was playing thru and to play at that level with that kind of pain is unreal!! Hell of a man!!

[@therealflamelit]

wore my Larry Bird tee yesterday and a guy tried to buy it off of my back! lol

[@katking6820]

Harley Weedwax CLASSIC!

[@teamviagraham]

In 89 Larry Bird's body was already breaking down

[@brandmarikina]

as early as 87

[@jayrodriguez9211]

And he was cooking!!🍳

[@Sizdothyx]

I now realize the reason people didn't take too many threes before the early 00s is because you weren't allowed the space to take your three due to the sheer claustrophobia from perimeter defenses. Damn.

[@ovathere93]

Once the Defensive guard had his hand on you there was no going to the other side. Unless you passed it.

[@Patriot2332]

You are right, there is no defense in today's game

[@ernestb4473]

Adrian, at least you realize it. Most of today's fans think that shooters today would shoot the same back then. Steph and Harden wouldn't be the same Steph and Harden then, that they are today.

[@SealofPerfection]

Because it was man-to-man only. Someone HAD to be on you.

[@SealofPerfection]

@@ernestb4473 And imagine what scorers from back then would do now, when they don't have to fight through several hacks with no foul call when they drive to the basket. They'd either shoot a lot more FT's or make a lot more FG's. MJ would average 40, easily.

[@leoh1191]

Not only the greatest rivalries but omg the goat and hof teams.. Larry took on magic/ kareem/ mj/the bad boys/ shawn kemp/ Dominique wilkins, charles barkley,etc

[@insanusmaximus2857]

That Eastern Conference was LOADED.

[@bestdamplumber9800]

Larry’s biggest opponent was his back. Wish he paid someone to put his moms driveway in. It’s amazing the numbers he put up with a bum back.

[@Enoughsenoughnomas]

if lebron retired because of his back you would call him a cry baby.

[@bestdamplumber9800]

Chad Clifford I would call him soft since that’s what basketball is today. 80 had hard fouls fights. Today is a bunch of pretend tough guys flopping all over the place.

[@sw5401]

Larry had a great career. Father time did him in. By time most people retired they had something wrong with them. Isaiah had a hamstring issues. Magic had AIDS. Patrick Ewing had knee issues. Dominique had ACL and Kobe had Achilles issues. Bird wasn't the only superstar whose career was ended by injuries. Like I said he had a great career

[@thehealthychefri]

In the off-season in "91" Bird also had surgery on Bothe feet!

[@dimestorephilosopher3308]

@@Enoughsenoughnomas LeBron has had a remarkably injury free career. If you attest injury to quality or skill, then you are an idiot and a piece of crap evaluator. I'm a Cavs fan, and Bird put up hall of fame numbers with a broken body for his whole career. If you shit on that, you are ... well, a piece of shit and know nothing of basketball.

[@AHMAD-2324]

IMO Larry Bird is the Greatest SF of All-time.

[@Rabbit.760]

Same, bird was the most fun to watch too

[@michaelmckay]

Thats not opinion, that is fact.

[@bobshenix]

@@michaelmckay I love Bird as much as the next old school NBA fan but let's be honest... it's still opinion. These GOAT debates get tired.

[@juniorjohnson9509]

@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C : Soccer is for low mental acuity goobers. They keep proving that with their rampages.

[@neweddard9358]

AHMAD2423 , I completely agree.

[@davec3651]

Jordan himself says people don't realize how good Bird really was and he was hands down the best SF ever to play. Significant coming from Pip's closest running mate, as good as Pippen definitely was.

[@Hero-3]

Dave C yeah my two starting forwards would be Pippen and Bird. I know I’ll get flack for that combo but I think those two would be a better combo than any other forward with Lebron.

[@jp3813]

@@Hero-3 But you're also picking Pippen over Dr. J.

[@lyalminchinton8825]

jp3813 dr j was a shooting guard .

[@jp3813]

@@lyalminchinton8825 Julius Erving, Kevin Durant, Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, Rick Barry, James Worthy, Paul Pierce, Dominique Wilkins, etc... = small forwards.

[@kidmillion5540]

@@Hero-3 nah that's your team u can pick who you want

[@christopherevans9119]

Watching these games & rivals was unbelievable! Being at the arenas & getting to experience true 1980s & 1990s NBA Legendary players!

[@acusticsunri4255]

Imagine Bird with a healty back

[@cryptozoomauler5505]

Imagine if he hadn't broke his finger right before his pro career! And then ALSO let his mom hire someone to do her driveway instead of trying to do it himself? And so had the healthy back? It's hard to imagine playing better, but I think he would have for sure.

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

@@cryptozoomauler5505 not hard to imagine. It's scary

[@acusticsunri4255]

@@cryptozoomauler5505 Larry wouldn't even let anyone mow his lawn let alone working on his mother's drive way and injuring his back. French Lick Tough Guy😁

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

@Chris Quiles keep telling yourself that son. Ask Dominique Wilkins about that.

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

@Extreme Warrior maybe for the 2 years instead of the pistons, but by Jordan wouldn't let them hold his team down for long either. besides, Larry's teammates were getting older as well.

[@76Hawkeyes]

Young Pippen vs older Bird. I don’t know if that’s a fair matchup. But no doubt Pippen became an awesome defensive player and one of the best of all time.

[@porkfrog2785]

that's the only way it could BE a fair matchup,,,Prime Bird ate everyone's lunch...as great a defender as Pippen was, he'd be no different than other ATG defenders Bird schooled--MJ included and MJ was 4 years in

[@porkfrog2785]

@Roderick Harper what you did is an example of what is called 'a non sequitur' ME: 'as great a defender as Pippen was, he'd be no different than other ATG defenders Bird schooled--MJ included' YOU: ' how did Bird school someone who he couldn't stop?' you see? ATG DEFENDERS....Bird couldn't stop Jordan's defense? 'non sequitur' means 'doesn't follow'...your statement is unrelated to mine

[@porkfrog2785]

@Roderick Harper I am sorry you don't understand logic, but I did my best. Debate isn't all that great a skill, really, I'm sure you're better than me at many more important things. Have a good one

[@porkfrog2785]

You can argue w/ MJ, not me-DIRECT QUOTE: 'I had to learn* what it takes to win in this league from guys like Bird and Magic' *'learn'...school...schooled...

[@porkfrog2785]

@Roderick Harper you, unlike Jordan, don't want to learn, so again, have a good one

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

6:57 This was also after Bird lost most of a season for double Achilles surgery, which he was never quite the same after. Great game for Pippin, but nowhere near a prime Bird.

[@OlJackBurton]

that's not near a prime Pippen either, being the start of just his 3rd season...

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

@@OlJackBurton Scottie's numbers that season say "I hit my prime QUICK".

[@yathatsright5958]

Scottie was 9 years younger than Bird...nice try though!

[@iwanttoseemrshow]

I think the video is trying to show that with each game, Scottie was getting 'better' against Bird. I think the reality is each game Larry was getting OLDER than Scottie.

[@ecb116]

I believe its both. Pippen got better and Larry got older.

[@danieljtexzocotitlasilva1951]

Agree same thing happen when pippen got to old for Kobe.

[@euroamerican5189]

not only did Bird get old he broke his back in 86 and tore both of his Achilles tendons couple years later

[@Buttington_Headerson]

Let's not short change Scottie. He was a legit great defender

[@jp3813]

I know what you're trying to say, but the way you put it reads as if you think that age gaps change.

[@elroz1675]

That double heel surgery changed Bird's mobility and drives, in 1989-90 season he wasn't the offensive juggernaut he was in 1984-1985 through 1987-88 season. Look at his 87-88 season, then at his 89-90 season. Scottie, as I recall those matches after the heels surgery couldn't guard the post too well against Bird. If Larry got it in the post, he usually prevailed. Now if Larry was mobile like prior to the double-heel surgery (and or at least prior to his back injury after the 89-90 season), he would have done even better. Props to Scottie though - very good player, all star, champion.

[@chrisoverbey7232]

I'm glad you're getting some NBA players promoting the channel. You deserve it man keep it up bro.

[@RobinCJohn]

The title should be “How did Scottie Pippen do against an almost retired and injured Larry Bird?”

[@Nomorechannel-t6e]

@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C soccer is gay as fuck

[@YourfashiongirlFlower]

I've been subscribed for over a year and I really enjoy BTM. I see plays on different videos on here and I can remember when they happened and it makes me smile.

[@sewaseem]

"when he gets the ball your job is over buddy" LoLoloL

[@youtoo2233]

Bird is well respected even by the best players ever

[@RobertDavis-qh1ry]

Even by "the best players ever"? Larry Bird WAS one of the best players ever... BETTER than most of the best players ever!

[@kingtyomama6564]

You give Larry Bird a strong back and he destroys all players in his way

[@dansgroi1472]

Just like he'd been doing against everybody in prior years

[@Pktattooss]

He destroyed everyone already.

[@marksines1246]

nah up and coming pippen caught him already at his peak

[@kingtyomama6564]

True that Im just saying Bird dominates them longer.@@Pktattooss

[@captainmartin1219]

Man it would have been awesome to Jordan playing Bird in the playoffs again.

[@rashb3994]

Shout out to Gasol in the beginning. Prime Bird's offense vs prime Pippen's defense would've been legendary battles. But I think the main battle that was shown was a good taste of how it would've consistently gone. You're not stopping Bird you have to wear him down, meanwhile you have to constantly watch Pippen on the break.

[@mikelliteras397]

This is when Larry started getting his back worked on while he was off the court. He even laid on the floor between stints. It’s amazing he was still as good as he was. All that diving on the floor came back to haunt him. Always wished you could see the best play longer against each other. No doubt the 80’s basketball was the best tho. 3 pointers are great but backing down the defender, hard defense, hating your opponent when the whistle blew, that’s all missing these days.

[@accllr8]

Mike Lliteras his back injury came from installing a fence at his moms house

[@jonathancasem6745]

The real battle was between Larry and his back and his other injuries 😴

[@Vonscnitzel]

At that point in his career he was a shell of himself. Bird had a short prime, but no-one beat him when he was at his best. Dominant

[@ktapreswreckd921v9]

@@Vonscnitzel Ahem. The Los Angeles Lakers beat the Celtics in 1987 and 1985. The Celtics were great. But the Showtime Lakers were the best team of the 80's.

[@efrainvillalobos9228]

Larry Legend was an assassin. Loved watching him play.

[@davidhillman4993]

Pippen was very underated,He could play iso,defend the perimeter,score, defend one on one,rebound,and could shoot from the outside.Only a hand full of NBA players could do that.

[@dancasey9660]

With the best of players it's not about stopping them from getting their points, but making them work real hard to get them. Make them work to get their shot, make them work on defense. If you can just slow them down a bit, take a little of the edge off, then the opposing player/team just might have a chance.

[@capitanfuturo594]

Agree

[@slanderman3296]

Love that sean is getting more n more ppl, I been a fan of his since he had like 5k subs ")

[@Weight27]

Pippen will always be my favorite and Bird has my respect my question is how many NBA greats wore the number 33?

[@edcor2578]

Bird Kareem Pippen Ewing Shaquille

[@matthewwarbington4125]

@@edcor2578 call me dumb but i always forget shaq had that number

[@merlball8520]

@@matthewwarbington4125 Shaq didn't have #33 for most of his career. Only at LSU and his very brief time in Cleveland.

[@matthewwarbington4125]

@@merlball8520 yeah i know i forgot he had that number for a little bit

[@accordexsport7784]

Great show brother..... Always watching. I wish the young crowd would watch and see how tough it was back then 💪💪💪💪💪

[@76JStucki]

I’d love to see 96 Pippen vs 84 Bird. I suspect Bird would come out on top but it would be a great matchup

[@Divisiononebasketball]

Pippin, is one of the only legends who looks like he’s at his playing weight today. Most former players get fat and stop working out unfortunately. They also eat like crap. Pip still looks great.

[@bmx7596]

Nah, he's way too small now.

[@jazzmonk5670]

@@bmx7596 Better skinny and small than obese and stricken with a plethora of self-induced health issues.

[@hotice8885]

Olajuwon looks great, Reggie Miller looks decent, John Stockton looked good, last I saw, Karl Malone wasn't bad

[@NotaPizzaGRL]

Freemason magic ftw i guess

[@bobshenix]

you're right he's in great shape

[@nestorvelazquez6031]

Bird vs the Dr! Give the 76ers some love in the 80's as well man.

[@merlball8520]

The two best forwards of all time - Dr J and Larry Bird.

[@barrymorgan5104]

Put 25yr old Bird in a time machine and bring him to the NBA of today and he would be MVP from his first season until he retired. He would destroy the entire league at 3 different positions. Can you imagine how many rebounds he would have as a power forward? No one, absolutely no one could ever stop him as a small ball center and of course he already is the greatest small forward of all time. He would most likely average a huge triple double for his career in the soft as jello league of today.

[@meikwermbter733]

I wanted to send you greetings from Germany ... luckily I came across one of your Jordan videos a while ago and I am now a big fan of your videos! Simply very informative and totally interesting ... especially those about Mj! So great respect and thank you for the work you do and the joy that you give us with your videos also here in Germany! Oh and hey ... love your room ... especially the Jordan poster ;-) Keep it up

[@JayTheAdviceGuy]

Who was that Pistons player who got DROPPED by that Larry Bird pump fake at EXACTLY 1:54?

[@mattiabianuccitrainer]

You're growing strong Sean! Keep up the good work! 💪👍

[@leedesigner1977]

Dude your channel gets better and better. Huge respect, cheers Sean. Lee 🇬🇧

[@laravedder2]

Hi there Sean, first of all I'd like to thank you for your videos, every episode is extremely well told and they also have this 90's vibe which I simply love. I was wondering if you could put an episode together about the 1996 nba draff or about Shareef Abdur-Rahim; one of my favourite players of the late 90's/ early 2000's (I don't know if you've done before ...I haven't seen it and I've seen pretty much all your videos) thank you and keep up the good work

[@Kashed]

Scottie Pippen was the best off glass shooter I have ever seen. His bank shots were amazing. That being said, MJ and Bird were the two toughest players ever. They played with more heart and drive then anyone.

[@TruthOverFeelings745]

Tim Duncan wants to have a word.

[@capitanfuturo594]

@@TruthOverFeelings745 Tim what ? Stop writing nonsense.

[@TruthOverFeelings745]

@@capitanfuturo594 Tim Duncan was the best shooter off the glass. If you disagree with this, then you don’t know basketball.

[@capitanfuturo594]

@@TruthOverFeelings745 blah blah blah Larry Bird and MJ was better than Tim Duncan.

[@TruthOverFeelings745]

@@capitanfuturo594 are you fucking dense? MJ and Bird were better, but neither them or Pippen had a better bank shot than Duncan.

[@wayneedward7391]

Man the 72 and 10 bulls u had Jordan,pippen,Harper,rodman all 4 made 1st or 2 nd team defensive team every year u talking 4 great defenders

[@jareknazwisko7752]

Harper was so underated as A defender

[@intotheabyssoftheunknown4479]

I forgot all about Paxson playing with the Celtics. Scottie did well against Larry as a rookie. Like you said, he got better with each match up. He also established a sychronized rhythm with MJ, which is legend today! When they were together, the Bulls were practically unstoppable.

[@mbowlen34]

that was his brother Jim Paxson not John Paxson

[@troyjohnson9123]

As great as the Bulls were, expansion hurt 90s basketball. There were teams in the 80s that never won, but were better than any of the 6 teams that the Bulls went against in the championships.

[@david.tousignant20]

Pippen is the most disrespected & forgotten NBA player ever! Glad you talked about all the things he did greatly : everything!

[@datfootballplayer4077]

greatest perimeter defender of all time

[@david.tousignant20]

@@datfootballplayer4077 Of course! With the latest "Last Dance" documentary, we were able to see how the Chicago Bulls mixed well together, because... Pippen was the glue that kept the piece together. Jordan always spoke kind words for Pippen. I hope some ESPN dudes are looking for that documentary. Some things they had said in the past were "amateurish."

[@mearndt1]

Great video, both such outstanding players. One great on his way out another rising up, and Pippen dominating as Bird did.

[@robertmcmaster2453]

Larry LEGEND...nuff said.

[@Nightwing300]

Old verses young that’s the real difference

[@pedrooyola3861]

Please look LEBRON 36

[@dontdoittoyoself6786]

Just call this the Larry Bird channel!

[@Bocephus1981]

Dontdoittoyoself it’s mainly a channel about the 80’s. Larry was the King of the decade.

[@broaddusmarines]

Just the way I like it. ☘️👍🏼

[@Midwest_Picker]

somehow I come out of this thinking Larry Bird was underrated if that's possible

[@xsirracx]

You do a great job producing these videos. Nice to watch.

[@SavedPulley]

Great job brother. We appreciate your page. God bless u fam

[@f.mazz.459]

Another great segment at BTM. Great job Sean, keep up the good work brotha!

[@jedsteelwell2354]

They didn't get the best of Larry til he was damn near crippled and he's still dropping 30

[@jimscoffee4913]

Pippen was the ultimate presence on the floor...

[@mannyneva1760]

Trzn facts

[@hanknorris5642]

Pippen couldn't quite bring the Bulls a championship while Jordan was out, but he is an an all-time great. I don't like calling Pip a role player, but he would complement any primary scorer and make the overall team dominant. Too bad he didn't retire a Bull. I think it's important for a star's legacy to stay with one team their whole career. Would have been better for Jordan too.

[@MrKydaman]

@@hanknorris5642 I always hear that Pippen didn't win any championships without Jordan, but how many did Jordan win without Pip??? Oh that's right, ZERO!

[@MrKydaman]

@Inbrightestday 87 Scottie played amazing defense. Anyone that knows basketball knows that, but that doesn't mean that the player he was guarding wouldn't get any points at all. Nobody can completely stop another player from getting a single bucket.

[@MrKydaman]

@Inbrightestday 87 I disagree and Scotty would give some players room to disrupt a teams offence / get in passing lanes etc. It could be that these average players had better games for a reason, and that reason is they were the players that opposition would prefer to be taking the shots. That way Pip could move around and help out on other better scoring players.

[@Jay-nb1ss]

I never thought about this match up, Jordan could not have done what he did without Pippin!

[@courtneywhite6036]

Pippen couldn't have won a Championship without Jordan too

[@laurogatapia3782]

Pippen and Jordan couldn't have won a championship without Phil Jackson

[@courtneywhite6036]

@@laurogatapia3782 I disagree

[@joeruf6526]

Awesome! Bird and Wilkins had oneof the best back and forths

[@scottbelcher9026]

Yes, some of those later games are really painful to watch as it’s obvious Larry is hurting badly and not himself on the court anymore… I think this makes a great argument that if Larry and the Celtics of the 80s could have stayed healthy longer, the Bulls would not have ruled the 90’s like they did… maybe last half they would have… I’ve always liked Pippen, but Larry was the GOAT in my opinion… very interesting matchup!!! ❤️

[@chriswright2568]

I feel like in many ways this was the case for a number of players and teams back then. The game was far more physical than today and a lot of people paid the price, and obviously Bird and Jordan both come to mind. I often think Kareem played as long as he did as healthy as he did thanks to the sky hook. He rarely took the hard foul going for the hard drive, by comparison. Plus, everyone played a lot more minutes than is common today. How many seasons did Bird and Jordan play 80+ games? Almost all of them.

[@cochisefromcoolyhigh796]

😅😅😅😅😅 ... Larry is you're GOAT n that's about it. Not everyone else's, clearly Magic was the better of the two.

[@ernestb4473]

Pippen was GREAT. He underrated and overlooked simply because he played with the G.O.A.T. Practically every team in the league at one point or another tried to trade for him.

[@pickzkickz]

Overrated was Jordan. Needed Pippen or would never win.

[@jasonmiller6382]

FACTS ALL DAY💯💯💯💯💯

[@TL2354]

Can’t be great when you quit in a playoff game

[@ernestb4473]

@@pickzkickz It's not smart to even say something like that. Jordan didn't need Scottie to win. He needed another All-Star of Scottie's caliber and quality. It just happened to be Scottie. He could have gotten it done with Ewing. Or Magic. Or even Barkley. Doc had Moses, Kareem had Magic, Bird had McHale, Hakeem had Drexler, etc, etc). Every great player needs another great player (or two hand-picked players, in Lebron's case) to get that ring. (There's only been few anomalies as far as that goes, such as Mavericks over Heat, and Pistons over Lakers). If you don't understand that, then you don't understand the game of basketball as well as you think you do.

[@grosskopf2779]

@Inbrightestday 87 Its a difference from supporting cast and a person of need. MJ needed Pip . If Pip was't there to take the load off especially defensively. Then when Rodman got there. I knew they were going to win CHIPs for the next few years

[@joshswicegood404]

Can’t compare. Larry bird played hurt

[@satatay23]

Josh Swicegood Pippen played with cortisone shots in his back and took charges.

[@joshswicegood404]

satatay23 bird played with physical ailments all his career bo. He also had broken knuckles he played throughout his college and professional career. Pippen didn’t have that all through his career. No comparison and not sure why you felt the need to rebuttal my comment

[@matthewheywood8532]

Josh Swicegood pippen has major back surgery after his second year and played with that the rest of his career

[@Maal7432]

So did Pippen.

[@joshswicegood404]

jmaal2345 pippen never had to retire early because of his injuries. No comparison guys.

[@janickimusic]

Pippen one of the best players in the history of the game. No doubt about it!

[@comunistanuncatemcomida]

Yeh. Thanks to Michael Jordan.

[@rashb3994]

@@comunistanuncatemcomida He helped sure, but watch the Michael Rappaport interview with Charles Oakley and Pippen. Pippen says he came into the league wanting to be better than Jordan. I found that fascinating because that tells you he had the mindset to be great from day one.

[@comunistanuncatemcomida]

@@rashb3994 Pippen was good no doubt. But he had lucky to play with the king. I can be wrong with the teams but... Jordan in Washington still very good, he made diference anywhere. Pippen no, in Rockets. Im not sure Also i like a lot Isiah and if you like Isiah you dont like Pippen 😂

[@rashb3994]

@@comunistanuncatemcomida LMFAO, fair enough on that Isiaih comment. It all make sense now. Haha.

[@nicolasbazzano2028]

Rust Cohle I'm 53 years old, and I definitely saw Pippen play. And I can say without hyperbole, that Scottie is the most overrated player in NBA history. You swap Scottie and Chuck, Pippen doesn't even get to an Eastern Finals unless the Sixers drafted an actual star, while Chuck wins those same six rings with Jordan, and more while Mike is playing baseball.

[@hulknlittleh6689]

2 legendary small forwards

[@gogetter5137]

No one did very well against Larry Bird. Michael Cooper did the best. But it still wasn't very well. LOL.

[@ericlind6581]

Go Getter Yep and that’s why people who say that Bird wouldn’t dominate today are dumb cause who today is good enough defensively to handle Bird, especially with the no handchecking? Maybe Kawhi but he’s a bit small.

[@porkfrog2785]

Bird smiled once and said 'Michael probably still has nightmares about me', but yep, he said Cooper probably played him the best

[@PoliticusRex632]

Not making excuses for either but let's be honest, when Pippen shut down Magic he had HIV. When he was effective on Bird in 89 Bird's back was so bad he wore a back brace between games and had to lay down in the aisle on flights. Just saying

[@PoliticusRex632]

@Inbrightestday 87 it is. I have MJ as the greatest 2 guard of all time. I have Pippen as a top 5 small forward and Phil as the 2nd greatest coach. I'm not a hater.

[@donovanm5128]

Eric Lind yeah Kawhi would have the same problems with bird that he does with Durant. Too long, and too skilled.

[@briancampbell6038]

Being guarded by Pippen is a tough night at the office even for Larry, some good battles there.

[@mearndt1]

Yes Brian I agree

[@mearndt1]

Pippen would dunk on anyone at will also, you were not going to stop him getting to the basket.(off subject I know)

[@mearndt1]

Even though Larry Bird's back was getting worse he still gave Pippen a run for his money. He still had a part in shaping Pippen into the dominant shut down defender he was, one of the best ever.

[@briancampbell6038]

@@mearndt1 Larry even with a crumbling back was a tough night at the office too!!.......even for the magnitude of a defender like Pippen. You still had to deal with larrys genius Basketball i.q and shot from all ranges.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

@@briancampbell6038 And don't forget Larry's pinpoint passing. Often JUST as no-look as Magic was famed for (and both were following in the tradition of Bob Cousey).

[@800series]

Very good video. Pippen was very smooth. Would have not been forgotten if Pippen had come along when Bird was in his prime. Scotty was a great defender. As bad as Birds back was those last two seasons it was amazing he could compete at all.

[@jpbm1873]

His doctor was amazed at how he could play at all.

[@cindyknudson2715]

And not just simply play but PLAY. He found ways around the obstacles if it was at all possible.

[@horacespencer3249]

I'm not a Larry Bird fan but Bird in his prime would kill Pippin

[@merlball8520]

Bird's 1985 stat line was incredible, considering the level of competition in the 80s.

[@artboston4787]

Wow Kevin McHale was great!

[@buckcubmandingo6772]

I believe the more important question was: Who was the better 2nd option? Pippen or McHale? Personally, Barkley and myself would rather have McHale. It is written

[@dontdoittoyoself6786]

Yea I slept on him because he didn't get that much hype. I think he would've done a great job holding his own if he wasn't in Bird's shadow.

[@artboston4787]

Check out McHale having fun in Portland! kzbin.info/www/bejne/on-peImEab2rgbM

[@Buttington_Headerson]

McHale is underrated now. Nobody talks about him anymore.

[@ovathere93]

After the 86 season Bird injured his back building a brick wall for his Mom in Indiana. That was the turning point. Then came the heel spurs. Larry! You had the coin, pay someone to do the damn Brickwork. Unbelievable.

[@therealflamelit]

it was a DRIVEWAY and he was moving loads of gravel :)

[@ovathere93]

@@therealflamelit Thank you good sir. Lol.

[@therealflamelit]

@john hinsdale I agree

[@danielmcdermott138]

@meese 60 No doubt, but he's also notoriously mean with his money.

[@LilSuperOG]

@DeMarc McKinney 🤣

[@ericzennaiter]

Amazing video! I don't know how I missed this 2 months ago lol

[@southernheritage8740]

Keep up the hard work man! I love the work you do! You do a great job!!!

[@76JStucki]

So you got a young undeveloped Pippen against Bird in his waning years...

[@merlball8520]

Bird was an MVP, won two Championships, was scoring in the 20s, rebounding over 10/gm, 5-6 assists/gm, had 2stl/gm and 1 blk/gm within his first five seasons. What was Pippen's excuse by the end of his fifth season for not being nearly as good as an old, oft injured Bird? Undeveloped? The fact is, league got weaker and Pippen didn't. That's why Pippen's numbers went up. Pippen was never anywhere near Bird's level of play when Bird was in his peak years.

[@acornsucks2111]

Bird was old with a bad back and still competing against the best in their prime. You do a great job on these videos.

[@gokuballer1683]

10 Reasons why Pippen is a Top 10 Player in NBA History: 1. Chuck Daley said Pippen was the best player on the 92 Dream Team 2. Pippen statistically was the best on the 96 Dream Team 3. Pippen won All Star MVP in 94 when the games were competitive 4. After Jordan left in 93 the Bulls only had 2 less wins than the 93 with Jordan, and would've actually won more games had Pippen not been out the first 10 games of the season. 5. Without Jordan, the only people who could stop Pippen from winning a championship in 94 and 2000 were the refs 6. Jordan never won a ring without Pippen 7. Pippen was 1 of a few players in history to get 200+ steals / 100+ blocks in the same season 8. Pippen was 1 of a few players in history to lead his team in each of the 5 major stats in a season 9. In 96-97 season Rodman was out almost half the season, yet the Bulls still won 69 games 10. In 97-98 season Pippen was out almost half the season, and the Bulls struggled during that time.

[@clydetheglidetop5sgtop10du7]

Goku Baller top 10 in history is over the top but he is def a top 5 SF ever awesome player for sure

[@filipsil8262]

i'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT BIRD had said about Pippen or thought how tough it was against his defense

[@brianjones6465]

An aging Bird was 6-0 vs Jordan with or without Pippen in the playoffs, and hit a game winner in both their faces. Jordan knows who the GOAT was. Bird could have easily won the league MVP in 88 when Jordan won, he lost a year due to achilies. He was a beast as a rookie, completely turned Boston around in his rookie year. Rook of the year, and 1st team NBA as a rookie. Prime Bird was the best basketball player in history. Just ask Magic, Kareem, Barkley, Russell, Aurbach, Walton, Dominique, Dr. J, Ewing, Miller, McHale, LeBron, Buckner, Rodman, Isiah. The list goes on and they've all said it. He would absolutely decimate today's league with the rules the way they are.

[@rumar4u]

Man I wonder how would today’s top 10 NBA players fare against a team composed of Rick Mahorn, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, James Edwards, John Salley (1980’s Pistons)

[@marykuettner752]

Today's rules or back then?

[@tottot000]

One question! If winning championship is team accomplishment. Then why reaching the Finals is individual achievement?

[@michaelglucksman147]

you have a great channel, especially for my age group that grew up in the 1980s

[@dapper189]

I can't say it enough. Growing up Chicago adjacent, in the 80s and 90s was - daaaaa best!

[@Lukasz_G]

Hi Sean, I am impressed by your content. Please, could you make video only about Pipen vs Magic at 1991 NBA Finals? We can see that you uploaded some clips from that rivalry. If we talk about Pippen vs Bird, it could be great to see Pippen from 1993-1995 vs Bird 1984-1986.

[@DOOMrtr]

LOVE ME SOME PAU! One of the most underrated Lakers of all time. Get that jersey in the rafters the minute that man retires!!!

[@nathanrobinson3653]

Pippen made Chicago good--they went 38-44, 30-52, 40-42 Mike's first 3 years without Pippen, getting swept twice by Bird in the playoffs. Scottie's rookie year, they won 50 games. Bird's rookie year, his team won 32 more games for a league best 61-21 record. Pippen is 66th on the Overall Defensive Rating--Bird is 61st. Bird won a title in 1981 without Ainge, DJ, and Walton, with a non-starting rookie McHale (10ppg in 20 min)--his 2nd year. No one averaged over 19 points except Bird on that team. Bird went 17-11 against Chicago with Jordan and 6-0 in playoffs. Pippen made Chicago much competitive against Boston and showed them how to finish over .500.

[@nathanc30]

Scottie couldn't guard bird like he did Magic, because magic needed the ball all the time

[@billycain9890]

If the 90s Bulls team would have went up against the 80s Celtics and Lakers they might not have one any championships

[@capitanfuturo594]

Bird vs Jordan was the big underrated rivalry in NBA history. Scottie Pippen was a great great player.

[@PoliticusRex632]

So we're just gonna ignore that ALL of these games took place after Bird had surgery on both feet and injured his back😂

[@williamgullett5911]

Answer- James Worthy, Joe Dumars, Dennis Rodman, and Kevin McHale Question- who are 4 contemporaries of Pippen that I would pick over Pippen for my team.

[@nissan1580sx]

Bird wasn't the same after the back injury. Pippen just improved a lot during the 90's

[@brucescott4261]

@Roderick Harper ...1987.

[@Nikolaos0603]

Hey man I enjoy your videos 👌🏽 I’ve been watching these for a while now and I’m curious to know what that 80s like music is that starts playing after the introduction.

[@jeffmejia3556]

Michael Jordan picked up two quick fouls? Man, that would never happen and hasn’t happened in the NBA for years. The prima Donna players can do no wrong in today’s league.

[@covewhisper7615]

Larry near his retirement years and pippen entering his peak. Not fair comparison for any legend matchups

[@thomassherman61]

The Paxson's grew up right down the street from me in Kettering , Ohio.

[@nathanrobinson3653]

Bird, for his career, went 17-11 against Jordan's Bulls in the regular season and 6-0 in the playoffs--two first round best-of-five sweeps. Pippen was not on those swept teams and never got to face Bird in playoffs. By the time Chicago went to and won an ECF, Bird was injury and surgery riddled going into his final season in 91-92. They mentioned Scottie was one of the greatest defenders of all-time. He ranks 66th in Overall Defensive Rating all-time--exceptional, and with Jordan at 110th. Failed to mention Bird is ranked 61st on that list, though, so by the numbers, Bird was a slightly better defender. Bird averaged 1.8 stls and 0.8 blks/game for a career at small forward and was one of the best team defenders. He was always in the right space and broke up more 2-on-1s and 3-on-1s than anyone I ever saw, and he made clutch defensive plays in big moments. Give Bird respect--he is both Legend and GOAT, and he won a title without a Robin and hall-of-fame coach and 7 years of team-building. No Ainge, no DJ, no Walton, and a rookie McHale who wasn't a starter (10pts/game in 20 minutes) when they won in 1981, Bird's 2nd year. Just a team who went from 29-53 to a league-best 61-21 Bird's rookie year (record +32 win turnaround) and a title in year two--without a 19 point/game teammate. When Pippen arrived, the Bulls got good--prior to that, they couldn't win more than 40 games, but they won 50 Pippen's rookie year. If I could play with Jordan or Pippen, I would play with Pippen in a heartbeat--better defender, unselfish, great teammate, and wins within the framework of the team. He didn't demand FGA to go for 30 with the offense centered around him and losing year after year after year like Mike did his first 3 seasons (1985 W/L 38-44, 1986 30-52, 1987 40-42). No, Pippen played winning ball like Bird. Bird led the team in points, rebounds, and was 2nd in assists in that '81 championship season. Bird also took Indiana State, who had never even made the NCAA tournament in school history, to a 33-0 record into the title game with not a lot of help--certainly no James Worthy on that team. He averaged 31-13-5 in college--there weren't a lot of assists to be had with that group and he earned every one. Once you learn about and see the LEGEND of Bird's game-- the stories, the trash talk, the dominating through injuries, the all-around genius (only 24-10-6 player ever for a career), clutch moments, full-court inbounds passes, the offensive rebound with the assist built-in, the fights, the absurd stat lines (32-10-10-9 in 31 minutes near quadruple double), the 2nd winningest player in NBA history to Magic's loaded Lakers, etc., you can see Bird is different from everyone else. Pippen and Jordan are both all-time great, but Bird really is in a class of his own. Hopefully KZbin doesn't line out this post--they don't like when I speak truth and stats sometimes--almost like they don't want direct comparisons of players. The numbers don't lie and neither do I and I saw it with my eye, youtube.

[@WillJM81280]

The only opponent that could handle Larry was concrete. That’s how his back got so jacked up, he did his own driveway work. Laying concrete destroys your back.

[@cindyknudson2715]

I heard that it's worse for someone with his height. That the tools aren't designed for someone that tall.

[@NickJaime]

That's what I like about old school basketball they were good game's that didn't need to be high scoring. Unlike today's high scoring boring games that are like shoot arounds more then a game.

[@chewy98ta28]

Pippen started having back problems in his 30's and he was never the same player after he left Chicago. He can relate. It might have affected his game more than Bird because he was a high flyer though I don't think his x-ray would look nearly as bad.

[@kevinnewville6490]

Love your show. I loved the NBA growing up in the 80's and 90's. I barely watch it anymore, it's so different. I would like to see you do a video of the most disrespected team in history...the bad boy Pistons. I can see you are a Larry Bird fan. That is cool and I get it. But I remember the Celtics beating us up in the 80's. They were a physical team that showed the Pistons how to win. Detroit gets a bad rap for playing the way everyone played back then.

[@Romamb]

Damn fine video and the channel just rocks man. Love the set you're in...the intro music...the relaxed style and the content. Keep it coming 🏀

[@jonmccormick8683]

Chicago Bulls were a pushover team even with Jordan in the playoffs in the 80’s. Milwaukee, Detroit, Boston, Cleveland were all way better as teams. Chicago had to basically climb the ladder to become the Champions they deserved to become. Because of those teams Chicago became a great team -a team that could beat a prime Lakers team. Dennis Rodman (Pistons) is correct in that they beat the hell out of the Bulls and Michael. They do not hide that at all, -and they enjoyed beating the Bulls and frustrating Michael Jordan.

[@old-school2196]

Pippen is my fav player but this is not a fair comparison because bird was at the end if his career when Pippen was on the rise Dominique and bird would be a better comparison

[@euroamerican5189]

Bird never lost a playoff game against MJ and Scottie's Bulls. Swept them twice. nuff said.