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@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 2 жыл бұрын
It begs the question, why trust anyone else to be secret keeper at all? Why not have James be the secret keeper? We know at Shell Cottage Bill Weasley, the owner of the cottage who actually lives there at the same time is secret keeper for the house. Why didn't James and Lily do that? Why didn't Dumbledore recommend it? It was a time filled with so much distrust, why not be your own secret keeper? You aren't likely to betray yourself.
@ReyOfLight
@ReyOfLight 2 жыл бұрын
Plot armor is my guess. Lily and James had to happen or there wouldn’t even be a story to begin with
@EmilyCheetham
@EmilyCheetham 2 жыл бұрын
Because plot & become who is going to bring them groceries to survive? With shell cottage they aren’t in danger, they can get the supplies they need. But when James and Lilly were hiding Harry they couldn’t go out or they would risk dying. So they ended a secret keeper to bring them all the stuff they needed. Or that’s my guess atleast.
@shoresean1237
@shoresean1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReyOfLight I'd also wager a guess that, by the time she wrote Bill and Fleur at Shell Cottage, JKR had already gotten years of earfuls from fans about plot points like this, and just decided to let James and Lily's fate also become an in-universe example of how not to proceed, hence Bill doing that very sharp thing. Besides, as you said, she didn't need Bill and Fleur to die.
@azerdraco3146
@azerdraco3146 2 жыл бұрын
If I were to be adding to the canon of HP, I would say that it just had not been attempted before. There are a number of good reasons for this: 1) The Secrecy spell is not one that has many uses unless you are hiding from another magic user. Hiding from muggles is much more easily accomplished through much simpler spells. This means that the spell would not have been used and practiced as widely as, say "Repel Muggles" (Repellum Muggletom, iirc) 2)Making a third party a secret keeper means that eliminating one of the hiding people doesn't end the spell completely and prematurely. 3) As far as we know, the spell is permanent upon a place or object, meaning that it is hard to really practice and test the spell limits on something the size of a respectable home. 4) The spell is not common knowledge, as we do not see every single magic user using the spell, even before the Potters were killed. I seriously believe that if this were a fairly common and easy spell, Hermione would have protected the tent before the wedding in Book 7. Hiding from Riddle's goons is a lot easier when they can't find you at all, even looking directly at you. If I were to hazard a guess, Bill named himself secret keeper on a hope that it would work.
@tammyjackson1026
@tammyjackson1026 2 жыл бұрын
The Potter's or any of the other closest ones namely the weasleys or Sirius Black himself would have been a little bit too obvious I myself would never chosen wormtail I myself would have chosen either the long bottoms I would have also would have chosen weasley's myself if wouldn't appear to be so obvious but I also wonder if it will be okay to choose professor McGonagall or maybe hagrid hagrid's always very good at that kind of stuff
@YellowBear-kx1ff
@YellowBear-kx1ff 2 жыл бұрын
For this Halloween, can you please do The Life of Sir Nicholas DeMimsy Porpington aka Nearly Headless Nick in honour of his 530th Deathday (which is THIS Halloween)?
@timbit8670
@timbit8670 2 жыл бұрын
I second this it would be great to hear the stories of Hogwart’s ghosts
@aeshaahme3774
@aeshaahme3774 2 жыл бұрын
@@timbit8670 Yeah most of their stories are a mystery, I mean, who tried to behead Nicolas DeMimsy But didn’t do it properly? It must have been a slow and painful death...
@theunknownreturns
@theunknownreturns 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@Doomzdeh
@Doomzdeh 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Peter was made the Secret Keeper instead of somebody like Lily, James, or Dumbledore because each of them could feasibly have been captured or killed by Death Eaters or forced to talk. Lily and James (Bill was Secret Keeper of his own home, Shell Cottage) likely still went outside under disguise to not go insane or to get supplies and food. At any time, then, Voldemort could’ve found them or killed them either by tip-off or coincidence. They could be tortured in horrific ways, but their weakness would never put Harry into danger, because only the Secret Keeper can magically reveal the location. It was a way to safeguard themselves and ensure that they wouldn’t accidentally reveal the secret in a time of weakness. And a way to ensure that the secret didn’t get out. After all, if the Secret Keeper dies, everyone else who knows of the location becomes a Secret Keeper, for some reason. Having multiple secret keepers at once is risky, and would’ve increased the chances of revealing the secret. Thus, Lily and James were terrible choices, as Voldemort was already actively hunting them. Dumbledore, as a public figure who Voldemort wanted out of the way the most, was also a terrible choice due to this. And Sirius Black, with his reckless nature and dangerous missions, was a bad choice too. Even Remus Lupin, with his werewolf missions, was a bad choice. So who could the Potters trust to keep the secret? Someone like Peter, on the other hand, is completely unexpected. Not only would they likely have told him the address anyway, as he was their good friend, but he likely didn’t perform dangerous missions for the Order very often due to his average abilities and fearful nature. And we know that he didn’t use his Animagus Form publicly, as Dumbledore didn’t even know about it. He was out of the limelight and presumably in far less danger due to his meek nature and how he faded into the background among the Order’s more targeted figures. Peter’s Animagus form allowed him to slip away from trouble and do so as a surprise to evade enemies. His supposed loyalty was ironclad from years of friendship. He would’ve known the address to their house anyway, and he was someone who would be completely unexpected as Secret Keeper, which means that the secret would be less likely to be revealed. In conclusion, Peter Pettigrew was the PERFECT Secret Keeper for the Potters. Or, he would’ve been, if he had been as loyal as they had thought him to be.
@IdleLancer
@IdleLancer 2 жыл бұрын
I think Lilly would have been the better choice. If either her or James left the house for supplies, instead of ordering them via Owl Post, the other would have had to stay at home with Harry. Lilly didn't seem to have the desire to leave the house or roam like James did. I do see your point on Peter seemingly being loyal and would be completely unexpected. I also like your reasoning on him using his animagus form to escape from trouble. I merely believe Lilly would have been the better choice.
@denizkenger52
@denizkenger52 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t be forced to talk though.
@FatRonaldo1
@FatRonaldo1 2 жыл бұрын
If Sirius was secret keeper and was killed, everyone he had told would be come secret keeper and therefore expose a lot more risk. By making pettigrew the secret keeper, they assumed he wouldn’t be targeted and killed meaning the secret would stay with him. Assuming they are both on your side, it actually makes sense to have Peter as the secret keeper as Voldmeort would go after Sirius and ignore Pettigrew
@hacorn96
@hacorn96 2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t take into account Wormtail’s affinity to be fearful. People who base their decisions on fear are not reliable people - because fear rules over every other value. This is why Death Eaters loyalty was fickle. Voldemort ruled with fear.
@TrueSighted
@TrueSighted 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, wormtail didn't act as shifty or untrustworthy at the time. He was a mommas boy, but he had come through in the past when things were rough. In the end, his choices left him the wretch he became. It wouldn't have been so easy, to see that he would do what he did.
@davidkennedy8929
@davidkennedy8929 2 жыл бұрын
Makes yo wonder why they didn’t choose Dumbledore as the secret keeper!
@davidkennedy8929
@davidkennedy8929 2 жыл бұрын
You
@mashonem
@mashonem 2 жыл бұрын
The book addresses that; they said they felt Dumbledore had too much on his plate already
@abdirahmanidris290
@abdirahmanidris290 2 жыл бұрын
The book says James saw it as the height of dishonour to not trust his friends.
@larryrottenberk7771
@larryrottenberk7771 2 жыл бұрын
The Dark Rock, Lord Voldemort is amazing. I absolutely love it.
@elizabethoneill8612
@elizabethoneill8612 2 жыл бұрын
Having Peter as a friend in the first place.
@princeofpokemon2934
@princeofpokemon2934 2 жыл бұрын
Sirius, Lupin, and James were friends back at Hogwarts. So why didn't they trust Lupin? I mean, come on!
@pokebreederrichard1200
@pokebreederrichard1200 2 жыл бұрын
Because that would be too obvious
@pokebreederrichard1200
@pokebreederrichard1200 2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't Sirius, Remus would be the next option. If Peter wasn't a traitor he wouldn't even be a last choice.
@paulyb7267
@paulyb7267 2 жыл бұрын
The Potters never suspected Remus of being the spy. It was only Sirius that suspected Remus of being the spy. Remus even tells Harry in Deathly Hallows that James would have regarded it as the height of dishonor to mistrust friends.
@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 2 жыл бұрын
It was only Sirius. Despite becoming an animagus to help Lupin out, Sirius used him as a murder weapon that had it succeeded would have landed Remus in Azkaban. Sirius may have been in Gryffindor unlike his family, but he was still a Black raised to be superior and look down on others. Despite being a werewolf, Lupin was also a halfblood. Sirius really only accepted Lily because he cared so much for James.
@Doomzdeh
@Doomzdeh 2 жыл бұрын
Because Lupin was on missions for Dumbledore frequently, presumably to talk to the werewolves and keep them from joining Voldemort. This meant that he was gone often, and in constant danger, which is one of the reasons why Sirius suspected him of being the traitor in the Order. If the Secret Keeper dies, everyone else who knows the secret becomes a Secret Keeper, thus making multiple Secret Keepers. If Lupin or Sirius died on a dangerous mission, you now have multiple people who can disclose the secret (instead of just the original 1). That’s why they weren’t good choices. Plus, they were strong wizards and would’ve been easily suspected of it, as Voldemort would’ve found out about the Fidellus Charm due to the traitor anyway. Lily and James also were bad choices, because, even in isolation, they presumably still went out to get food, supplies, and to stop from going insane. They likely went under disguise, but they could’ve been caught anyway. Voldemort was actively hunting them both. This put them into too much danger, and meant that neither should be the Secret Keeper. Peter was the perfect choice because he was unexpected and overshadowed by so many others. Yet he was in the Order, not suspected of traitorous activities, and had been a friend of James’ for many years. Lily, James, and Sirius had no reason to not trust Wormtail. We even know that it took Peter over a year and a half to betray that information, even when he had already been a traitor by the time that Harry was born.
@WhatYourFearTheMostIsFear
@WhatYourFearTheMostIsFear 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Peter was spreading rumors between the marauders and in combination with the uncertainty of the war was why they didn't trust Remus. Plus if i remember right Remus was away often to spy on the werewolf colonies for Dumbledore, but the other didn't know this. This could have added to the mistrust.
@captainjellicoe1701e
@captainjellicoe1701e Жыл бұрын
okay I know I'm just being nit picky of but I believe that spell would have one obvious loophole if you're being tortured no matter how strong-willed or How brave you are you're willingly going to give up that secret going to have the torture end eventually
@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout
@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout 2 жыл бұрын
Better question: why wasn't James the Secret-Keeper for his own family? Bill was at Shell Cottage, Arthur was at the Burrow...
@angieharriman3378
@angieharriman3378 2 жыл бұрын
So how did Wormtail become Scabbers the Wesley's pet rat? And how did they not notice how long-lived he was?
@jorgecarbajal8076
@jorgecarbajal8076 2 жыл бұрын
1:00-1:09 That was quite amusing. Anyway, I can understand the reason Wormtail was the Secret Keeper: he would’ve been the most unlikely choice out of James and Lily’s friends.
@johnnycage112
@johnnycage112 2 жыл бұрын
Pete was beneath suspicion.
@baraka490
@baraka490 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they make Dumbledore The secret keeper? Nothing would get by him
@aeshaahme3774
@aeshaahme3774 2 жыл бұрын
They already said that in the book. But the potters thought he had too much on his plate already. Plus, he would be obvious.
@abdirahmanidris290
@abdirahmanidris290 2 жыл бұрын
James wanted his friends to do it
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Lupin was a great teacher 👍👌👏🙌😀😄
@setogod7
@setogod7 2 жыл бұрын
i would not be surprised if peter spread those seeds of doubt
@RomanHistoryFan476AD
@RomanHistoryFan476AD 2 жыл бұрын
"Poor", "cowardly" and "Timid" there we go the three words why Peter should have been eliminated as a choice for secret keeper, Does not matter if he looks like someone not worth interrogating to get Answers There is always a risk that they will snatch him up anyway to just find anything out. Has happened many times in criminal and policing work some low level was grabbed next half the secrets are coming out. There was only three people who should been Secret Keeper honestly- Dumbledore-Sirius or James/Lilly themselves.
@abdirahmanidris290
@abdirahmanidris290 2 жыл бұрын
Sirius changed it to Wormtail last minute i think
@briantheisen31
@briantheisen31 2 жыл бұрын
It could have been anyone. The reason they picked wormtail was because he was the least likely. Not because he was the problem, they just thought that anyone else would be targeted, tortured, and maybe forced to give up the secret. I’m willing to believe that the spell is broken on the secret keepers death if they are alone in knowing it. He was the least likely to even be considered for the part.
@baraka490
@baraka490 2 жыл бұрын
I would have trusted the werewolf over the rat what's the rat going to do? He's going to go and try to preserve himself he's going to attack when he gets cornered of course rats are usually not really afraid of anything have you seen these things are pretty much as big as loads of bread now I don't really have anything to fear so it's like worm tail should have just been a mouse not a rat unless it's cuz they meant it as he's a rat he's going to rat you out which would have made a lot of sense but for them not to understand that he turned into a literal rat and then ratted people out I don't understand how they could not seen this to begin with?
@Accio_Eloise
@Accio_Eloise 2 жыл бұрын
My question is why Peter agreed to it if he knew himself well enough to know he would crack immediately? He should have refused and told them Sirius would be a better choice.
@RomanHistoryFan476AD
@RomanHistoryFan476AD 2 жыл бұрын
For the protection and importance such a role would offer him, Weak will to refuse, or maybe he knew this leverage would get him in good with Voldemort.
@ThetaSigma-vu1sk
@ThetaSigma-vu1sk 2 жыл бұрын
he was already a spy at that point
@matthewc3135
@matthewc3135 2 жыл бұрын
Because he would've already been Voldemort's spy st that point.
@ashleymontgomery3967
@ashleymontgomery3967 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many secrets in this series. I hate to say this, but why are the punching in the face moments so limited? If I were Sirius and Remus in POA I would've beat him up then continued the scene.
@joshcampbell9188
@joshcampbell9188 2 жыл бұрын
I have a slightly different take! Personally I think Sirius knew pettigrew was scared and I also think Dumbledore and Sirius would have done as much as possible to keep the secret keeper safe due to the Fidelius charm diluting if the secret keeper dies. So I think Sirius wanted death eaters to hunt him hoping to kill him and dilute the charms power whilst Peter stayed in his hiding place (as mentioned when Sirius was telling lupin) no one would consider pettigrew or looking for pettigrew who would be expertly hidden and safe something they all knew pettigrew secretly wanted. As shown in order of the phoenix Sirius was not a fan of hiding so the switch happened. Sirius could keep fighting on the frontline, James and lily were protected as was pettigrew and they were all able to hide away until the war ended. Atleast I think that's why the switch happened
@mariannejensen349
@mariannejensen349 2 жыл бұрын
According to the films at least, the way I understand that part of The Prisoner of Azkaban, James would indeed punish Wormtail, but he wouldn't want his two best friends to become murders. That part, is important to include. We get told later, that murdering another person, is so much against nature, that it splits the soul into pieces. And Harry might be right about his father, about that. That James, didn't want for Serius and Lupin, his two best friends, to get their souls split and broken
@rob-p9k
@rob-p9k 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as you said jabroni, I knew what was happening 😂😂
@tanjas7883
@tanjas7883 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, I don't think he thought Remus would tell anyone. Probably the same thought why he himself wouldn't be the best choice: too obvious. Apparently he was convinced that nobody would suspect Wormtail. Maybe he also wondered if Remus had the highest risk for death?! Being a werewolf and therefore targeted by both sides? That then would have led to a dozen more secretkeepers. While Pettigrew was expected to be hiding away from danger?
@UncleAL86
@UncleAL86 2 жыл бұрын
The most impressive thing I have ever seen - the Is channel quoting the Great One! 1 other thing - Why wasn’t Dumbledore the Secret Keeper? Would that have been the best choice?
@minhajnizam5090
@minhajnizam5090 2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore did offer to br secret keeper but they didn't go with it
@mikejunior80
@mikejunior80 2 жыл бұрын
...and there it is "Poor, little, timid, Peter Pettigrew" proved to be the downfall of The Potters because they clearly didn't know their "friend" all that well.
@RomanHistoryFan476AD
@RomanHistoryFan476AD 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget cowardly as well, The two most devastating words and highest reasons to not chose him are "Timid and Cowardly" he will crack like an egg and he did.
@abdirahmanidris290
@abdirahmanidris290 2 жыл бұрын
James was blinded by loyalty
@RomanHistoryFan476AD
@RomanHistoryFan476AD Жыл бұрын
@@abdirahmanidris290 It can be quite blinding as well.
@kodileigh9210
@kodileigh9210 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think it goes beyond Sirius making poor decisions. I think he made a potion and spiked Sirius. He was smart enough to be an amimagus and pass Hogwarts tests. You-know-who wouldn’t trust someone so stupid : he didn’t put up with stupidity. The subtle manipulation have poisoned his way of thinking- a bad person will do a hundred sneaky things in order to be RIGHT.
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
James and Sirius could run a joke shop🤔🤣😂
@sifilore9462
@sifilore9462 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got nothing to say with the story here, but in 6:45 shows a witch girl 👧🏼 with braces 😁. In HBP when Hermione told that her parents were both dentists at the Slug Club, Prof. Slughorn and Slytherin twin girls were confused as if that business doesn’t exist in the Wizarding World because they have magic to instantly fix and clean your teeth.
@YellowBear-kx1ff
@YellowBear-kx1ff 2 жыл бұрын
I went to the Muggle dentist yesterday, but there COULD be Wizarding dentists. Heck, there could be some working where Hermione’s parents work.
@minhajnizam5090
@minhajnizam5090 2 жыл бұрын
James when he realised they were betrayed. Looks like Peter ratted us out
@littlefoot5013
@littlefoot5013 2 жыл бұрын
Harry's family had a cat? I wonder what happened to it.
@YellowBear-kx1ff
@YellowBear-kx1ff 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a theory that the Potter’s family cat was Crookshanks.
@tamarasmith9060
@tamarasmith9060 2 жыл бұрын
In the books, when Hermione goes to the wizard pet shop wanting to adopt, she is told the cat she picks has been there for many years & what happened to his previous owner is unknown. (They basically thought he was so old & cranky that he would never accept a new owner.) Later, when Sirius is then trying to get into Hogwarts in his dog form (before everyone knows he is innocent) Crookshanks is seen running up to a strange dog as if it was a friend. Even before that Crookshanks also keeps chasing Ron's rat Scabbers when he sees him out of his cage. It's implied that Crookshanks must've been the Potters' cat because he recognized Sirius as a friend & also recognized Pettigrew in rat form but also knew Pettigrew shouldn't be sneaking around. An old letter found later by the kids in Sirius' belongings was a letter from the Potters thanking them for Harry's 1st birthday gift & it mentioned something about the cat too, so it was confirmed they had a cat when they went into hiding.
@Tkbrd1918
@Tkbrd1918 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that wrestling reference 😂😂
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Lilly would've made a wonderful doctor
@oth0807
@oth0807 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you say Sirius did not trust Lupin ?? Is it said somewhere in a book ? I don't recall that...
@paulcowlishaw
@paulcowlishaw 2 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone. When he says this. The voice in my head goes hey Dean.
@billysmith5409
@billysmith5409 2 жыл бұрын
The WWE reference was bloody brilliant!
@Jurtaani
@Jurtaani 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to point out that i thought that what Harry meant by "not what James would have wanted" wasn't about the killing of Peter. More about how he would not want two of his closest friends to do that act.
@Tasha9315
@Tasha9315 2 жыл бұрын
We don't know that. James may have genuinely been against murdering Peter like Harry. Plus not wanting his bffs to be murderers also indicates he was against murder.
@captainmorgana8842
@captainmorgana8842 2 жыл бұрын
Love your content... Deff going to binge 🥰 You do other fandoms too?
@Larka661
@Larka661 2 жыл бұрын
In retrospect, petter petegrew didn't see his "friends" as friends. They were his body guards. But the question is, was wormtail a death eater before or after the prophecy, And Voldemort starts to target the potter's?
@abdirahmanidris290
@abdirahmanidris290 2 жыл бұрын
Hed been giving information to voldemort for a while so probably before
@Larka661
@Larka661 2 жыл бұрын
@@abdirahmanidris290 probably. But it was Snape that heard the prophecy and told Voldemort. And instantly regretted it when Voldemort thought it was Lilly's son, and ran to Dumbledor for help. For all we know, wormtail might've convinced Sirius to be the secret keeper, Because no one would consider Wormtail to be protecting the Potter's.
@Commander_Ray
@Commander_Ray 2 жыл бұрын
Should have made lily the secret keeper
@bernadettejohnstone4529
@bernadettejohnstone4529 2 жыл бұрын
as a lifelong wrestling fan (over 40 years) ... I enjoyed the shout out to The Rock lol
@ivanhunter6492
@ivanhunter6492 2 жыл бұрын
simply put, they didn't think of him as an option as he might have proven untrustworthy in their eyes
@baraka490
@baraka490 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember the old PS2 wrestling games? Such as Legends of wrestling? That game had a stick figure with a superhero outfit trying to lift King Kong Bundy he did like the grab you from the behind lift you up and then pretty much have a lean back and then have your head hit the ground from the back I don't know how a stick can lift something over 500 lb and I think he may have been over that so it's like how did he live that without breaking his spine the superhero outfit really works LOL
@SunKodjo
@SunKodjo 2 жыл бұрын
The wrestling bit made me wonder, are there other sports besides quidditch?
@jonwashburn7999
@jonwashburn7999 2 жыл бұрын
That WWE thing was quite funny.
@harryasmith527
@harryasmith527 2 жыл бұрын
His Animagus was a rat, that's all that needs to be said.
@n8dawg194
@n8dawg194 2 жыл бұрын
If you smellllllelllelllelllell what that Dark Lord is cooking!
@DanTheYoutubeAddict
@DanTheYoutubeAddict 2 жыл бұрын
This might be a controversial opinion, but I think that it might have been fate that Wormtail was chosen. If the secret keeper didn't reveal the location to Voldemort, then the dark lord wouldn't "mark him as his equal, but he will have power the dark lord knows not." Once Voldemort choose the Potters, Lilly's fate was sealed. She would sacrifice herself to protect her son from the dark lord.
@randomusername3873
@randomusername3873 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the entire incantus fidelius stuff doesn't make any sense The obvious thing to do was to make James or Lily the keeper, then it would have been impossible for them to be found unless they wanted to But in general, incantus fidelius could have resolved many of the problems of the characters. Like Voldemort could have used it to hide the horcrux, nobody would have found them
@Slimeblock16
@Slimeblock16 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they make themselves the secret keeper and then never leave their house
@brotheresquire2776
@brotheresquire2776 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahah. .....hahahahah.. He did then rock on these boy. He laying the smackdown on that narration
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Lilly would've made a wonderful job👏👌🙌😀🙂😊
@Jack-hb4dm
@Jack-hb4dm 2 жыл бұрын
You know what I’ve never understood about blood purity? Witch/Wizard + Muggle = Half blood child & Witch/Wizard + Muggle Born Witch/Wizard = Also half blood child… & Muggle born witch/wizard + muggle born witch/wizard = half blood child as well… & Muggle born witch/wizard + Muggle = half blood child again… It doesn’t make sense to me. How many generations of all magical relatives does one have to have to be considered pure blood?
@yatanogarasu
@yatanogarasu 3 ай бұрын
They should've never let him to join the Marauders to begin with, he was clearly using them to bolster his own status.
@WrestlingwithBooks
@WrestlingwithBooks 2 жыл бұрын
Here for The Rock reference 😂❤
@the_chubby_jedi9189
@the_chubby_jedi9189 2 жыл бұрын
If it had to be somebody outside the household why not Dumbledore or at least tell Dumbledore hey this is the new plans I never understood that
@dominikakrchnakova5949
@dominikakrchnakova5949 2 жыл бұрын
Love is the strongest weapon in HP universe. They loved Petter and believed him and they would never betray their friend by not trusting him with their own lives. And the non-reciprocal love is what destroyed them in the end.
@AwesomeJake103
@AwesomeJake103 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what's going on with the Harry Potter show that was rumored for HBO Max? 🤔 If it's still happening it would be a great opportunity to properly tell the story of The Marauders
@blesbeauty1018
@blesbeauty1018 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was the 20 year reunion
@tommyhedden
@tommyhedden 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Rockavort
@abbeyclark7620
@abbeyclark7620 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they need to choose anyone as secret keeper? Just don’t tell the secret..
@alicianelson1252
@alicianelson1252 2 жыл бұрын
It's the quit ones you gotta look out for
@geviesanta3631
@geviesanta3631 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a video on What if Sirus and the Potters did trusted Remus Lupin instead of Peter Pettigrew?
@ThetaSigma-vu1sk
@ThetaSigma-vu1sk 2 жыл бұрын
nothing would change because either way, Lupin was on a mission for dumbledore at the time and wasn't able to be involved with it all
@A_Morgan_S1400
@A_Morgan_S1400 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if he was brought back and in the loop, things would've been 𝑠𝑜 different. I would've loved to have seen that. ❤️
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack 2 жыл бұрын
The Potters got overconfident, that was their undoing.
@potter286
@potter286 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't lily and James be their own secret keepers? That would've made it way better and they couldve only told sirius and Dumbledore
@ginantsfan5
@ginantsfan5 2 жыл бұрын
Most awesome vid!!!!!!
@Yvanehtnioj2000
@Yvanehtnioj2000 Жыл бұрын
It made absolutely no sense for Lily and James not to make Sirius secret keeper. He planned on dying as a diversion anyways so why not make him the secret keeper since the secret would die with him. Like wtf
@dylandavies8438
@dylandavies8438 2 жыл бұрын
Off topic from this video but, one thing that I never gotten is the nimbus broom series. If they are at school from 1991 - 1996 then how does the 2000-2001 work ?
@SA-xl1tk
@SA-xl1tk 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Remus away on a mission at the time?
@grec.
@grec. 2 жыл бұрын
Hot take but to me it makes no sense to choose oneself as secret keeper for a place. What if there are people in need for help or to be found in that secret place? It makes total sense that a 3rd party is made secret keeper. With this been said. Is absurd the situation where the maraurders doubt each other. That's very unlikely and out of character. Although it seems to be a plot hole. But I'll say that Sirius was a bit of a coward sometimes. He was impulsive and wasn't so smart. So i think in the pressure of the situation, he just got himself off the hook and Remus. So he chose Petter because he had not much regard for him therefore didn't think he was capable of much. Sirius probably thought that Voldemort would not suspect of him and wouldn't bother to ask him. But little did he know. Sirius probably took a huge surprise when he saw what Petter was capable of when he wanted to.
@newerrryork4869
@newerrryork4869 9 ай бұрын
where is the clip of the young mauraders from?
@shadykitty7493
@shadykitty7493 2 жыл бұрын
what if voldemort got the stone
@laytonpro8655
@laytonpro8655 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s more they thought he was too cowardly to betray them
@RomanHistoryFan476AD
@RomanHistoryFan476AD 2 жыл бұрын
Really I thought cowards are the first to be rejected for such a role.
@VincentWeasleyPotter
@VincentWeasleyPotter 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! My honest opinion is James would indeed have put Peter to the sword for disclosing his families whereabouts, However I do also believe James wouldn't have wanted his son or his best friends to become murderers in the present tense! ;)
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
They could be in business together❤🤷😕🤔🙄🤣
@donniebuie1
@donniebuie1 Жыл бұрын
I know there’s no excuse for serious, his actions, lol. But it was some hard times, and if you think about it from a logical perspective, his plan did have some volition, if worm tail didn’t turn out to be a complete and utter coward… It was a great plan. If only, if only warm towels did not turn out to be a sniveling coward.
@DryBones271
@DryBones271 2 жыл бұрын
When did Wormtil turn, and how long was he Voldemort's bitch for?
@crow_g1639
@crow_g1639 2 жыл бұрын
Probably as soon as the war started
@vermiciousknid2456
@vermiciousknid2456 2 жыл бұрын
In the book the "Prisoner of Azkaban" Sirius said he was spying for Voldemort a whole year before he betrayed Lilly and James.
@eranshachar9954
@eranshachar9954 2 жыл бұрын
They were fooled by his intelligence. He was so smart that he was able to make the impression he is good for nothing wizard. In reality he was the Snake in their bed.
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Peter prison guard 💂‍♂️❤♥🤣👏
@YellowBear-kx1ff
@YellowBear-kx1ff 2 жыл бұрын
Since Nearly Headless Nick couldn’t join the Headless Hunt, could he have made his own group called the NEARLY Headless Hunt?
@paulcowlishaw
@paulcowlishaw 2 жыл бұрын
What would be the point. He was the only nearly headless ghost at Hogwarts
@YellowBear-kx1ff
@YellowBear-kx1ff 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulcowlishaw Well, weren’t there Nearly Headless ghosts around the country? Like Nearly Headless Horsemen?
@paulcowlishaw
@paulcowlishaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@YellowBear-kx1ff maybe. Ask JK about it. I'm sure she'll have an answer
@zacharywheeler6605
@zacharywheeler6605 2 жыл бұрын
Harry isn’t a half blood tho… he’s a first generation pure blood. Born of a witch and a wizard. I suppose you could say he’s 3/4 wizard? But for sure not a half
@saphiramystique2086
@saphiramystique2086 2 жыл бұрын
Harry is considered a half-blood because his mother is muggle-born, they call him a half-blood multiple times in the books.
@rico6453
@rico6453 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a set up
@krystalkayne5242
@krystalkayne5242 2 жыл бұрын
Am I missing something here? We all know Peter Pettigrew was the secret keeper and the one that betrays the Potter's. So why was it so easy for Pettigrew to frame Sirius if Pettigrew was the only one that could give up the Potter's location?
@ThetaSigma-vu1sk
@ThetaSigma-vu1sk 2 жыл бұрын
because only sirius and the potters knew peter was the secret keeper. everyone else thought it was sirius so they blamed him
@iqld
@iqld 2 жыл бұрын
Sirius and Peter were in broad daylight when Peter killed the twelve muggles. The ministry deemed it a close case when they found Sirius at the site who they didn’t even give a trial as he was the only wizard there. Many plot holes are made in this tho
@iqld
@iqld 2 жыл бұрын
Cos the veritaserum potion could have given them the answers straight away on why the whole thing happened
@krystalkayne5242
@krystalkayne5242 2 жыл бұрын
@@iqld If that is the case I'm glad I'm not the only person that noticed these plot holes
@thepianoman808
@thepianoman808 2 жыл бұрын
Where is this scene from? 4:41
@Pattmore
@Pattmore 10 ай бұрын
An amazing fan film Called “Severus snape amd the marauders” by broad strokes
@kenhammscousin4716
@kenhammscousin4716 2 жыл бұрын
Did the potters have a cat?
@donnellhill75
@donnellhill75 Жыл бұрын
You really think to much. They didn't think Peter had the balls, simple.
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Y not have another wolf drink lupin blood end the curse
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Y go in the war at all
@williammcclenahan3614
@williammcclenahan3614 2 жыл бұрын
Tht shows friendship in real life there's alwayse snitch in your friend one of them are a snitch could be u but then again they all could be when it come to life people are snitching
@elizabethoneill8612
@elizabethoneill8612 2 жыл бұрын
You smell what the rock is cooking
@inspectorbutters166
@inspectorbutters166 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, animagi don't choose their animal form. It is an expression of their inner self (similar to a patronus) In that case, a wizard turning into a rat would be someone I wouldn't turn my back to.
@crow_g1639
@crow_g1639 2 жыл бұрын
So serius is a dog because he is????
@zeezzydaking6899
@zeezzydaking6899 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder this too
@fandomsforever5766
@fandomsforever5766 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@professorsassafras
@professorsassafras Жыл бұрын
A time of mistrust and lack of loyalty? Hmmmm.... Hufflepuff house anyone? Arnt they known SPECIFICALLY FOR BEING LOYAL AND ANTI VOLDEMORT?? Seriously James and Sirius are you stupid? Whats wrong with you two? Hufflepuffs are known specifically for their loyalty
@tylersmith9465
@tylersmith9465 2 жыл бұрын
Travel the world have family's get jobs no war👪👨‍👧‍👧👨‍👩‍👧‍👦👨‍👩‍👧‍👧🌎✨
@lonewolf031
@lonewolf031 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they pick a secret keeper then obliviate him or her into forgetting the secret so it could never be extracted?
@Hawker5796
@Hawker5796 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should’ve realized Wormtail was working for Voldemort when he was made secret keeper
@williammcclenahan3614
@williammcclenahan3614 2 жыл бұрын
Let's say James was out at the time when voldy ska baldy lol but and live and lilly and Harry died I thing James would of found him worm tail bagged for his life James would of killed him for sure or he would of torched him I wanna say he would or torched him one for being a snitch 2 for acting like a friend and UK serious would of been there so I don't think they would of gone to ask a band prison cause there's 2 of then but then again they did kill him but maybe they could of said self defense could u imagine if james was still alive for the 2 war I would how tht would of gone cause alit would of changed plus atlest harry would of been alive then we gotta fell bad for for hagrid lol he would of took harry to his aunts or to the other house but then again harry wouldn't of gone to his nasty mean aunt's but then again maybe they both would of but idk cause as we seen harry had money witch means tht came from probably James and lilly so tht wouldn't of gone to harry
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