How Did Sky Bison SURVIVE The Air Nomad Genocide?

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[@catwithaneyepatch]

Appa is the best fictional animal, ever. Don't even try to change my mind

[@nasreenaltayib6528]

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[@godofurlocalhell]

Yea I agree

[@elmersuarez6761]

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[@kaylag.2957]

I think people forget that Sky Bison are VERY attached to their nomads they bond with. I’m sure MANY bison died along side their nomads during the Air Nation genocide. We’re talking millions of bison. Of course non-bonded bison, like baby bison, they probably grew up and evaded the fire nation because bison are intelligent.

[@blackpowderkun]

It was explored in Kyoshi novels that eventually Sky bisons returns to their herd to mate upon the death or retirement of the nomad

[@kaylag.2957]

@@blackpowderkun true, but this was an ambush. And adding on too my statement. Bison we’re also means of escape. The Fire Nation didn’t have the ability to travel by air, only Air Nomads.

[@blackpowderkun]

@@kaylag.2957 there is a fantheory that the Firenation used dragons, it's possible that they killed of the sky bison by ambushing them in their migration routes or destroying food and water sources.

[@luisandrade2254]

There aren’t millions of air nomads how is it possible there to be millions of bisons

[@nyalan8385]

Eh I'm pretty sure it was only 30-80,000 bison or so as that's about how many air nomads there were. Remember all nomads were air benders, so their population was much smaller than the other nations

[@kaydgaming]

Um… they flew away?

[@pookaverse]

lmao

[@daisywalshe8904]

😂🤚

[@theannouncer5538]

Everyone: getting murdered Sky bison: Too fly to die

[@IcyIsKindaCold]

The airbenders could fly away on them too, why didn’t they?

[@premiumheadpats4150]

@@IcyIsKindaCold Good question.

[@novalopez3068]

They could have said that appa stayed behind but the rest of his pack flew away to a distant island and repopulated. Idk, seems to make sense how flying animals could just... leave

[@AK-jt9gx]

Yep. And they didn’t even have to say Appa singled himself out. Appa went into the ice with Aang because he ran away with Aang. It’s as simple as saying that one of the air nomads encouraged the other bison to fly away to a safe place when the fire nation was approaching.

[@novalopez3068]

@@AK-jt9gx oh yeah I forgot about that. I haven't watched atlab in so long. But yeah even more of an explanation then. Even if the sky bison wanted to stay by the monks side, not even a few flew away? Not really buying it...

[@Ok_toker69]

But they stated that they stayed and fought the fire nation till death….

[@nahicorua]

Or that the air nomads freed them so that they wouldn't be slaughtered with them when the fire nation came, that would make more sense since they were mostly domesticated animals and we know they form a connection with humans

[@kstar1489]

Then so could the air nomads with their staffs. This decision seems arbitrary and only post hoc justified

[@chriskoloski32]

I love that even when given a response by the creators themselves, people will jump on a hate train. Like it's completely impossible for flying animals to fly away and not get killed

[@glamourable]

THIS!!

[@nepnep1149]

Nah people are mad because it’s bad writing

[@donb7519]

Because if the bison get away why didnt any nomads get away

[@monkebrainiac]

if the creators had the need to explain it then its bad storytelling

[@chriskoloski32]

@@monkebrainiac by that logic nothing should ever be explained. Even if people ask why or how

[@ejedwards1678]

This is not a question that ever needed to be answered or explained. They could have just said, "Aang is 10 and been gone from 100 years. He just assumed that the sky bison were all dead and fortunately he was wrong."

[@dream6562]

Nah they just decided to retcon it

[@hueyfreeman6262]

​@@dream6562 like they did with lava bending and everything else in atla

[@youngmaster7405]

@@dream6562wasnt actually a retcon. Unlike the air nomads its never explicitly stated that sky bisons were extinct and its given a good explanation: some escaped just as some air nomads did and they flew to the fire nation where the banti tribe sheltered and raised them. Aang discovered the tribe and used their bison

[@youngmaster7405]

@@hueyfreeman6262they didnt retcon that or anything else

[@hyukleberry5567]

​@@dream6562it's totally reasonable that animals still exist in the wild. air benders couldn't have had a monopoly on every sky bison out there. they consciously made it a different specie to explain they probably just domesticated new sky bison

[@IamnotJohnFord]

We find species today even though they were declared extinct. It's very likely that with the death of all the air nomads, they simply flew to some far off forest and avoided human contact. Since so many air nomads died suddenly and they were spiritually bonded to those air nomads, the sky bison would've flew and hid from humans. Once they sensed the return of air nomads with Aang, Tenzin and Tenzin's kids, they returned.

[@mertensiam3384]

Yeah, people are making this to be some sort of huge retcon when it's really not that deep I bet if Coelacanths were in atla and declared extinct, but they appeared in korra, theyd call it a retcon

[@scottbruckner4653]

So they're Air Buffalo.

[@wtr3059]

Wind Wisents

[@johnnyjoestar1909]

I’d assume, since apparently they’re two different species according to fire nation guards

[@theonebeyondall7719]

The buffalo winds

[@alienalchemist]

Sky Yaks or Flying Oxen?

[@xxmension04xx47]

You're wrong, but you're right

[@lonebattledroid4474]

My head cannon is that the White Lotus saved/raised a few herds of Sky Bison and then gave them to Aang after the War

[@notnicetohate4739]

Honestly mine is that the fire sages had them

[@SantomPh]

​@@notnicetohate4739the Sages served Sozin and the royal family and by Ozai's time were only figureheads

[@badoe7138]

It bugs me that they did the species thing backwards for appa and momo. In Korra the lemurs look completely different, and the bison look the same, when it should've been the other way around. Momo was around after Aang was unfrozen so there should be other lemurs like him still around. Likewise, if they came out with a new type of wild flying bison that was brown instead of white, and maybe had different horns, that would make much more sense for the air acolytes to try and domesticate.

[@kagenoo1084]

The horns are subtly different

[@Isvhwv]

I mean their sky Bison-.. most likely the only other changes they would have made was making them either smaller, different colors, different feet, something that they may have felt wouldn’t fit the feel we were all accustomed to. Appa was a much more substantial character than Momo in the original series (tho we loved him) Appa had a whole story arch of his own. And when creating a continuation of what some consider a near masterpiece for a “children’s” tv show, I would assume they just wanted to keep some familiarity. Also if their were plenty of lemurs around, it would make since that there would be plenty of various species left. Besides there were VERY small differences in the Bison in the legend of Korra. Plus I was like 10-12 when I watched this so I had a very high suspension of disbelief and still do, but I see where your coming from 😂

[@nidohime6233]

I look up and it seems lemurs of Korra where actually a different species from Momo, like how in Madagascar there also have many species of lemurs too.

[@teardropslushi]

I mean they do have some differences plus its not unlikely for a species not to evolve in major ways.

[@thalmoragent9344]

True, it's weird but hey, Korra had a lot of odd scripts so, why am I surprised

[@dont_recommend_this_channel]

Can’t some of sky bison have just, y’know… been wild sky bison and not at the air temple?

[@TheScavv]

The writers used the ancient power of retcon-bending

[@johann392]

To people saying that these bisons just flew away. Remember, Bisons are given to the nomads at a very young age, and it’s been shown that they are very loyal, and they have an unbreakable bond. So it’s my assumption, that the regular Bisons would’ve stayed behind to help, and die with their family

[@trex0004]

🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@nidohime6233]

It could be even said the sky bisons of the air nomads where their own cattle, like how mongolians and other nomadic tribes have herds of horses and camels while those species are still found on the wild.

[@x97k8]

You have wild bison bro not all belong to nomads

[@emerald9194]

Some of the bison may have been unbonded and decided to flee. If an Air Nomad dies, their bison will never bond to another (as seen in the Kyoshi novels when an Air Nomad character is killed but not his bison). There’s also the possibility that some never bond and just do their own thing.

[@Wtfe2024]

😢

[@panlis6243]

Ah yes. My favourite Avatar location. Some Island

[@TruMaverick]

It's actually spelled "Sum iland"

[@УилкиТутытам]

Shaman, who lives at this island must be Kiyi, who cosplays her elder sister.

[@537monster]

I just love the idea that they gave up and said “yeah he found them on some island” and moved on.

[@lilapy1430]

I can only imagine the firebenders scorched the whole Airbender's ecosystem and also hunted these animals to extinction because it was a source of transportation to the air nomads.

[@whoknows5804]

How do people forget that the fire nation killed almost all the dragons in the world. And not to mention they could all fly.

[@MateusChristopher]

Killing dragons was a centuries old sport. We don't know if the fire nation would care enough to hunt bison

[@bigbitch584]

dragons were slowly hunted out of existed over hundreds of years as a sport. people were incentivised to go out and hunt them. it also seems like dragons are solitary animals or work in small families. making their populations easier to decimate over a long time. the sky bison however were not targeted by the fire nation and only would have been killed if they were in the way of killing air benders. on top of this, the fire nation only cared to attack the air benders for a short period of time. there’s no incentive to go after the bison. and they fly in packs making it harder for them to be killed off so easily

[@pikolin13]

​@@MateusChristopherNo it's not. Going by the original series Dragon Hunting was started by Sozin, and considering he lived at the very least a few months after Aang got frozen it's safe to asume that the tradition is not even 100 years old

[@kstar1489]

“Some island” Korra with it’s top tier world and story building

[@maadtee6281]

It's the comics actually not korra

[@sulaimankhuhro8717]

Chill dude, it was never covered in Korra. If anything this is a part of the ATLA comic series post 100 year war. Stop trying to take any excuse to shit on a genuinely great show. Nowhere near ATLA, but still really great.

[@6785yy]

@@sulaimankhuhro8717 ATLA comic composed by the same people that had control over Korra 😭. Wtf are you on about ??

[@lyustra732]

Lmfao it's from the comics actually, LOK did a good job building on the world aleast lore wise they only problem is only focusing on the main plot instead of showing us the rest of the world like they did in ATLA they just mention it to you and move on to the next fight which is why I didn't enjoy LOK like that.

[@kavhi3731]

​@@6785yy yeah you're just arguing just to argue. you korra haters seem to lack the ability to think logically and admit you're wrong.

[@ronaldomaldonado1582]

"aang found kind of a herd of these things on some island after the war" Top tier world building

[@Runestuf999]

This shit literally happens in real life with extinct animals lmao. This fandom sucks.

[@TheDeathmail]

The real answer is simple, while Aang was taking a nap, Appa was able to sense the danger and using his swords, he went to fight and protect the remaining members of his kind before going back to the ocean to watch and wait for Aang to wake up...

[@DaSleepingKing]

How did the sky bison survive the air nomad genocide? Brady: that's the funny part they didnt

[@Blackstonelegion]

Is no one gonna talk about how adorable the baby sky bison are?

[@itsm3ll0_yt73]

Holy shit i forgot how cute bison look since I haven't actually seen one from avatar in years

[@huh1764]

Yikes. I barely remember the show anymore, with how long ago saw it, and that clip of Appa chewing on the railing brought that entire arc back to me. Literally in tears

[@avenir-schwarzgranz]

They are probably remnants of the Bison that lived with the first Air Nomads from Wan’s era

[@FirstnameLastname-nq3oj]

It is impossible not to love Appa ❤

[@blazingdance3612]

They had a ... "SECRET TUNNNNEEELLLL!" (*Music plays)

[@ItsKatinasWorld]

Best explanation thus far 😂👌🏾

[@juliettek.9440]

He said “some island.” Sky bison being able to fly would mean like birds they could migrate most anywhere. There was probably always a relic population of sky bison even the air nomads didn’t know about.

[@Jaxodahomie]

Appa: The Last Sky Bison

[@mg_makintosh]

i love Oogi's name sm and the fact that it's a family inside joke

[@FinalxChance]

Sky bisons were never extinct. They were just an endangered species.

[@Vwall007ST]

Baby sky bison are the cutest things ever

[@berlianmerah5764]

them mf fire nation killed animals too…thats cruel

[@karakattankurai]

You forget that they also killed baby air nomads😢

[@lonestar275]

This is the kind of stuff they could make into a series, the time between ATLA and TLOK

[@lewisbaldwin9683]

“I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at animal Cruelty”- fire lord Sozin

[@stefansalvatierra4913]

Says the same guy who began hunting dragons for sport and glory…

[@karakattankurai]

​@@stefansalvatierra4913 hunted not just The Dragons but original Firebenders😢

[@yamicardiel8215]

You know, it’s even subtly hinted that there is another subspecies of sky bisons through the murals at the Western Air Temple right before Combustion Man attacked. The bisons painted there had brown ears, which gives the possibility that the bisons from the Western Temple probably escaped to the scattered islands.

[@Amadeo790]

So that means Appa’s sub species is extinct only living through the mix of breeds.

[@nidohime6233]

It seems so.

[@RatsRatsIsthebest]

Probably

[@laurennelson3918]

Yeah and not even being visually findable beyond the fur being a bit lighter in shade.

[@TheMutantCreeper]

I think that the fire nation captured some sand bred them and that’s how they ambushed the nomads.

[@theformidablefrog1967]

Appa is a God in the world of Avatar you only realize how foreign and out of place he was in the world of Avatar after u watch it a few times just an unstoppable force a sentient being far beyond anyone’s understanding

[@jimsuan6988]

why are they so freaking cute!!

[@thechosenone3852]

It would've been much cooler and more sensible if they revealed that there was actually a small group of sky bisons secretly hidden in the giant lion turtle's back island all along.

[@gilgamesh6135]

This is so sad. Appa died childless. How can the writers be so cruel

[@StKing317]

I read somewhere that oppa was the last sky bison which ar larger and have white fur and can fly longer and higher while air bison are smaller tan and can't pass the clouds

[@harleyquinn5774]

Appa was the last member of his *subspecies* of sky bison. When Appa died, his subspecies became extinct. At least Appa got to spend time with other sky bison at all before passing. Aang would not have found the surviving members of a different sky bison subspecies without Apopa’s help.

[@MrOrstone]

This is an issue I have with the ATLAB. How come air nomads were all kill if a nomad has no place. Meaning they move a through the world. How it is theres no a bunch of nomads hiding ?

[@benjammin3414]

Well 100 years is quite along time and some fans theorize that sand benders are actually hybrid progeny of earth and air benders.

[@cameoshadowness7757]

They issue is that they do have a place, or rather they have temporary places. They travel a lot but had a few key spots they would be around during specific times to help raise kids and such and thus the fire benders were able to get and kill them.

[@kou7191]

@@cameoshadowness7757 the surprising feat is they managed to access the temples to begin with, which we see is ridiculously hard for non air benders even in Aang's time.

[@justgemthings]

There was a theory that there were travelling air benders all across the world of Avatar. So maybe during the start of the Air Nomad genocide, the ones who were travelling assimilated to other communities just like what happened to that one family in the comics where a fire-bender and an earth-bender married each other and formed a family. And that can also answer that how there are many airbenders in LoK.

[@disgoosting]

@@kou7191 well the fire nation did have dragons at the start of the war

[@horsekfobster7823]

They only exist because Appa is a fan favorite

[@calebjohnson3537]

actually in tlk its revealed the fire lord had a secret garden of sky bison

[@bransonjallim2620]

Where

[@airena1449]

The books, comics, show?

[@youngmaster7405]

That didnt belong to the fire lord. That was a separate tribe hidden from the rest of the fire nation

[@Alusnovalotus]

I like the idea that the sky bison were like the American bison. Almost driven to extinction by an invader but saved by some of those invaders who knew better.

[@stefansalvatierra4913]

My thoughts exactly. I may not be a big fan of LOK, this was one of the things I liked. And I read Blood Memory not too long ago. From 60 million bison on the Great Plains to only around 300 in only a few decades, and mostly for sport and to force the native Americans to give up their livelihoods, starving them into submission. Even the bones of the fallen were collected to be ground into fertilizer to make a profit. Thankfully not everyone was on board with that destructive mindset. Bison numbers have since bounced back thanks to the conservation efforts of those who refused to let one of America’s symbols disappear forever. The same with LOK that a good number of sky bison were spared from the devastation of the Air Nomad genocide, thanks to some in the Fire Nation who refused to carry out Sozin’s twisted ideals..

[@gabbyd1802]

Or its been 100 years since the war ended and animals can evolve over time after about 200 years of no human interaction

[@maxxymrice6200]

The Fire Nation killed all the domesticated Sky Bison but the wild Sky Bison survived, also the Fire Sages preserved several herds in secret.

[@Hickory958]

Actually, at the end of the 2nd Beginnings episode in season 2, the fire temple lady reveals to Korra that they have been keeping sky bison since the 100 year war. That may or may not line up with Mike and Brian's answer

[@Eszra]

From what i always believed is that who ever was in charge of caring for the bison helped many of them escape that weren't bonded with a nomad. These more then like mated with other bison collected as each herder more then likely met and settled down on an island to protect them in hopes that survivers would return. Air benders died out due to lack of genetics and the herds went wild. Yes it was only 100 years but if the remaining herders were older and unable to produce children it makes sense.

[@oalbuquerque2899]

So "We ignored The plot of The previous show cuz we wanted to put some more Apas."

[@sleppy_piggy]

Based

[@nidohime6233]

Or is based on reality, for example many subespecies of bison did become extinct, but a couple of them are still alived to this day.

[@xdsmile5359]

Yes more fanservice please

[@BargB]

@@nidohime6233 yes, like mecha fights between god and devil on the middle of the city.

[@oalbuquerque2899]

@@BargB ORE WA GUNDAAAAAAAAAM

[@KevinMcLean]

I can gladly accept that they probably didn't have time to elaborate in the show where they came from but still had the story explanation available. And I can accept it because the designs are definitely different in such a way they could be a different species.

[@jeffreyv8306]

The fire nation had a few hours to exterminate every single Airbender they could find. A nearly impossible feat in and of itself. They made no effort to exterminate any of the fauna indigenous to the air temples and mountains. That would have been a waste of time and resources.

[@RyanD8293]

Well, they were super charged (☄) so the collateral damage would have been...excessive. But I agree that would not have at all been a priority. That said, the bison likely would have tried to protect their riders and monks and temples overall so if they (🔥) had to go through them (🦬) to succeed in their (🌬) gen-o-cide, they definitely would have. So I gotta side with the bison AT the air temples were probably wiped out. Wild ones, however, would not have been worth any amount of trouble toward the FN's goals and that's where they (✍) fcked up. Were there none out of captivity by the time Sozin's Comet came 'round? Cuz if they can fly wouldn't they spread out EVERYWHERE they can fly to/live thus making their territory like the whole planet and them practically impossible to kill off without first controlling ALL land they'd be found? Shouldn't there then at least be multiple subspecies based on that so the lost/hidden comic/Korra breed actually wouldn't be special on it's own because it's actually just one of several though it is still special as the ONLY other domesticated breed left that humans could still make use of? Though there were "wild bison" in LoK so they ALMOST got it. Haha but not really...(poof) domesticated! 🏇 Then let's not even get into how NONE of the AIR *NOMADS* were scattered all over the world when...well...you can probably guess where I'm going with that. Same shtuff. Hard sell. Sorry, I got carried away ✌😆

[@matthewhelland9258]

They only torched the air temples during the comet, the extermination of the whole nation took several decades.

[@evanthompson3906]

Let’s not forget a group of firebenders loyal to the avatar cared and raised a group of surviving Sky Bison during the 100 year war.

[@clar1nettist204]

Another difference is the fact that Pre-war nomads could choose their bison while in LoK opal mentions that it's the reverse

[@dwippo8582]

It’s probably also due to the fact that some of the airbenders probably pushed them away due to the fire just like how Suki did with Appa. So that they could still live.

[@rightfulfuture4]

"In retcon the show"

[@dwest3918]

Don't forget that the fire nation island korra washed up had a tribe of fire benders who said they had been keeping a herd of air bison since the hundred year war. The island was extremely remote and there's a low chance the fire lord had any reason to ever go, so this could very possibly be the island, not to mention it was also said that he found them in caves on that island, and the island was shown to have underground caverns when korra was dipped in the water.

[@lanefaulhaber875]

Has the same energy as “Somehow Palpatine returned…”

[@Nara.Shikamaru]

I just wish Appa and Momo lived forever. 😔😭

[@EricIsntSmart]

The answer is simple: the writers for Korra didn't give a shit about the continuity

[@darklink4160]

What writers? That show didn't have any writers. It had high school level plot. I wish they would just get rid of the whole thing and start over.

[@nidohime6233]

I don't see anything wrong, there already made clear there are a different subespecies, the one Appa was part of did became extinct.

[@draphotube4315]

@@nidohime6233 but those subspecies didn’t exist till they made them up. Because they were never intended to exist till they needed that nostalgia effect.

[@th3fps304]

​@@draphotube4315 and what's the problem with that? it doesn't make writing worse this happens all the time in screenwriting, for example, Darth Vader shouldn't even be Luke's father, but George Lucas changed his mind at the last minute because he saw it was a great idea so if the writers managed to include new bison, so be it, it doesn't break any canon

[@guywithsoda6558]

@@th3fps304 Legend of korra is bad seems like only reason it exists is to do fanservice to the low iq people who don’t care how much they ruined the canon

[@skylarcandylife5628]

That's why the sandbenders captured Appa and mistaken for it to be just another normal bison and didn't belong to the Avatar. Maybe those sandbenders captured few of them before

[@micah2455]

Another example of Korra logic being dumb Got the same energy as “somehow palpatine returned”

[@pookaverse]

Korra is good bro, relax. It's not as good as ATLA, but it's still way better than most cartoons.

[@hiymecorp.258]

You know what’s dumb? The fact that they expected us to believe the fire nation actually wiped out the sky bison when they all could have just flown away in the sky out of reach. That’s dumb logic.

[@yammoto148]

There wasn't really much of an indication that Appa was the last only that Aang was.

[@oddball0399]

Why would they take the time to kill all the air bison anyway, they can't become the avatar.

[@cablefeed3738]

@@hiymecorp.258 Not very dumb when you realize they've killed almost every single dragon and they also can fly.

[@rand0m_tuffzz251]

for some reason seeing the old team avatar makes me sad

[@keyblade5916]

Appa is cuter 🥰

[@amitystan]

It’s the same freaking appearance

[@glamourable]

@@amitystan 💀😭

[@amitystan]

@@glamourable ???

[@amitystan]

@@VincentMothling they are different BIOLOGICALLY, but they have the freaking same appearance, and we did get some cute moments with other sky bison

[@KuchBhiSahihai]

I'd literally cried in the episode 'Appa's lost days'

[@stikbith9731]

the benders were hunted not the bison right?

[@hollowsamurai2707]

If there willing to kill an entire race of people I think there pets would also be on that list

[@stikbith9731]

@@hollowsamurai2707 yeah ig it is easier to capture them when they cant fly

[@Luis-gn7ln]

They literally have an episode where it’s revealed a group of people were keeping the bisons on a safe island to have them repopulate

[@Neoduem]

shouldnt it be "different Race" and not "species" Like Dogs for example have different races but cats are a different species

[@ultimatedunce6525]

Race isn’t a real term in biology. The more accurate term is subspecies considering that that the sky and airbison are virtually similar.

[@SeveralGhost]

Dogs have breeds, race is a misunderstanding of ethnicity that stuck around as a superstition

[@Avatar_Brandy]

Idk Mike and Bryan used the word species in the Comic Con interview so that’s why I used that instead of breed or subspecies

[@dallascopp4798]

I think you mean different breeds. Race as we know it in humans typically refers to as differences in skin tone, hair texture and small facial feature differences. All races of humans can breed with one another. However, Breeds of dogs are almost constitute as different species and it is not actually a good idea for some breeds to breed with each other, like Great Danes and Chihuahuas. Neat idea but physically impossible for it to happen without medical intervention for it to occur. They are also genetically the same. The different sky bisons here could constitute different species depending on their genetic breakdown from the extinct bison used by the air benders and on how fast their evolutionary processes are. Different horns and fur are a good indicator in animals to suggest they are genetically different from the other animals that look like them.

[@rainpooper7088]

@The Ghost of Several Things The slip-up is understandable, as there are several languages that used to use „race“ for both, but phased out the term in relation to people to the point where no one would even think of humans whenever „race“ is mentioned. „Breed“ on the other hand implies that someone selectively bred an animal to be a certain way, so it wouldn’t apply here either. „Subspecies“ is what would make the most sense.

[@matthewlayne5151]

Well in that time if you where to move them around, they would naturally adapt to look more like the OG bison

[@pixeldonkey.]

The actual explanation is The legend of Korra has horrible writing

[@HarryPeanut]

You can blame Nickelodeon for that

[@yammoto148]

Or you have an elietist mindset and can't see further than two fingers infront of you.

[@dragonkingbreaker6]

@@yammoto148 uh huh. So breaking down your comment a bit. While what you said can slightly be true, (i-....I guess. You just sound butthurt mostly honestly. But anyways.) he's not wrong. He could've been nicer about it, sure. But that's beside the point. Korra has some of the worst writing of any show that's come out in the last 2 decades. If you can't see that yourself, you have no critical thinking whatsoever, and you're the reason why we keep getting the same situations over and over in many different shows. Elitist comments or not.

[@yammoto148]

@@dragonkingbreaker6 It has flaws, but so does every show, the issue is fans of the last airbender seem to put a magnifying glass over those flaws instead of acknowledgine the shows highs and lows. And a lot of the so called writing flaws are easily explained away with simple logic and paying attention. I am tied of people hating on new stuff because it doesn't quite tickle their nostalgia centres. Also your point about it having the worst writing in comparison to any show in the past 2 decades tells me you haven't watched anything for the past 2 decades. In fact its argueably better than half of the stuff that comes out now days so its very hard for me to respect your viewpoint at all.

[@dragonkingbreaker6]

@@yammoto148 so breaking down your reply comment. Addressing your 4th sentence. So, that quite literally tells me you're butthurt about someone having anything to say about the legend of korra, or any show. Because it makes absolutely no sense, and you know it does. Why you said something like that, in response to my vague statement, (because i mean come on, why you chose to take that apart, say all that you've said in response to that. Then try and make something out of that is seriously odd.) is actually quite concerning. Now addressing your second sentence of that paragraph. That is quite literally, the ONLY sense, and objectionable statement you've replied to me with. If it's difficult to respect my viewpoint, that's perfectly fine. Both you and I, and everyone are allowed to do that. The only thing that would make that wrong, is if you didn't acknowledge me saying what i said. You're going to think all that I'm saying from this point on is me being condescending, (trust me, I know how it can seem that way. I can also understand why you and others would think i come off that way given how i said my first comment. But i was on a crunch for time with my other comment, it was also only in response to your other comments since you were originally a bit to begin with. Because i was on my break at work.) but that's not my intent at all. I just genuinely don't understand some things people reply to me with. Especially the way you did, since you seemed a tad bit hostile originally with your other comments, even before I addressed you. Addressing your second sentence. You're both correct, and incorrect. I've watched both shows, and read all of the books/comics MULTIPLE times. Simple logic can be applied in most cases to some of the shows aspects, (hence this short. Simple logic, and critical thinking, can give you a legitimate answer as to why they didn't go extinct.) but not all of them, and you know it cant. The best example of this, is the relationship between Korra, Mako, and Asami. There is absolutely no legitimate, sound reasoning, as to what happened with their relationship. None. It IS addressed VERY MINISCULEY in the comics to how Korra and Asami ended up getting together. But theres no, "simple logic." or, "just paying attention" tone to it at all, to explain why things went down between the 3 of them the way that they did. There's MULTIPLE other examples of how faulty the writing is, pertaining to other sources in the show. But that's one of the main issues the true fans, (not the ones you describe as "hating." on things due to "nostalgia." as you put it.) have with the show. Addressing your first sentence. So, PLENTY of people have acknowledged both the high and the lows of the legend of Korra. That's why they have such harsh criticism towards it. You can call it throwing "hate." or "being an elitist." all that you want. But it doesn't change the fact, that the majority of fans have actual, sound reasoning to why they dislike certain aspects of the show. But you're writing it off as "hate", because they're saying things that you don't agree with, saying its somehow part of "nostalgia" for some odd reason. While you want to continue to argue, (which honestly, given how you're structuring your comments/replies. You seem to be one of the "stan elitists." I've heard so much about.) for no other reason than the fact, you can't understand why people won't just sit there and take something as it is. It seems like you think, (honest to god, it really does seem this way given what youve said so far.) it shouldn't be analyzed/criticized to certain capacities. When that's not how anything in life works, especially with this kind of thing. You're part of the reason directors/producers of shows/movies, keep getting away with the same troupes/schticks all the time. You don't actually analyze things, and you don't take in feedback from others taking in the same information thats given to you as well. You then somehow write it all off as "hate" when it's something that actually could/have sound reasoning for people to not be okay with. Sure, people could be nicer about it. But the point is still the same. You think it's wrong for people to have opinions that differ from yours, because they actually could have sound reasoning, (sure, some can be "elitist" and very adamant about how they choose to bring up what they're trying to say/argue.) for not liking something, and you want it to just be accepted for what it is. At least, that's how you're coming off as with your comments/replies for the most part anyhow. If this were about people themselves, and how they're throwing hate, (I mean ACTUAL hate. Racism, bullying, etc.) I would be on board with you 100%, and have no arguments whatsoever. But it's not. This is about an entertainment factor, pertaining to certain things within that entertainment factor. Everyone has the right to say/object to things pertaining to forms of entertainment, as long as it puts no one down in any way, shape or form. Now, to wrap this all up. Nostalgia, and all that you've said in your third sentence. Has nothing to do why some fans, (the ones who have actual, genuine critical thinking. Not the "haters" in which you claim to be out there.) dislike things about the legend of Korra. Why you even said that, and tried using that for any argument you tried to make in response to me in anything that i said. I actually find ludicrous to be honest. The true fans, are actually tired of the same thing happening, over and over again, in different styles of entertainment, but its just not shown to the extent everyone notices it to be. Especially since certain details are so subtley hidden, and are never addressed in depth later on since they don't affect the action. But those certain details, DO affect how certain outcomes/events happened, and it shifts the storytelling with no in depth explanation. Which again, action wise it doesnt matter. Storytelling, it does matter. That is the main reason people "hate." on legend of Korra so much. Certain things don't add up to the way they should, regardless of easy explanations, or simply paying attention. If you, and or anyone else have read this far, (trust me, I know it's a lot to read. But I wanted to cover all bases.) Thank you kindly for replying to me! I appreciate reading you and everyone else's comments since I do love both avatar shows, and I always love reading others input/insight to both. If you didn't. Well either way, I hope you all are having a wonderful day/night!

[@rosettaelemental7275]

Given how generally similar the two sky bison species are, I think it's safe to assume that they probably could interbreed

[@calamitysangfroid2407]

Honestly the easy answer is that there were wild bison that didn't live with air nomads. The fire nation has no reason to hunt them down, they were just collateral.

[@copernicub]

Strange that I have a vivid memory of me watching Aang finding the herd of bisons at the end of the last airbender show and when I rewatch it I was shocked it's like Mandela effect.

[@FrancisR420]

I think that exact scene is in a comic

[@caseykazem4049]

Who would ever want to kill such adorable wittle sky puppies

[@iansteenhoek8373]

They're like thanks for taking us in and the all the personal sacrifice and whatnot but we outtie

[@neroknight1234]

Appa was an integral part of team avatar. Love him and Momo. I actually tear up during his kidnapping episode.

[@dragoncatoverload]

Admittedly they could have had an off hand comment. Yeah a handful of bison flew away and managed to find a secluded island where they rapidly evolved into a totally new sub species ( which is an actual thing that happens on island) and then Aang found them and managed to domesticate them somewhat. However they’re way more flighty and shy around strangers than Appa’s kind were.

[@wildwaters8348]

It’s probably not a completely different species, but another breed of air bison. I could also imagine there being differences to air bison from temple to temple, like how there’s many different horse breeds around the world (or cow breeds)

[@Nacif8]

Everytime i hear "air nomad genocide" i am reminded that the amount of depth and adult content within that show is insane

[@wildtacocat]

You can tell they’re far different from Appa’s species because like the video states the difference but mainly the pattern on their backs and the size Appa is way bigger than Ugi

[@joeykelly5642]

Oh, very nice, “some island”. I’m glad that was there to retroactively remove the consequences of the Fire Nation’s conquest established in the original series

[@dinodare1605]

The species of bison that Appa was is far superior aesthetically tbh. The babies were so much more adorable!

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

sorry all the ones that didn't get grilled aren't cute enough pftt.

[@denonwarrior9330]

That tribe is impressive they managed to protect an entire species from extinction for over 100 years they should teach real humans to do that.

[@AsianEyes007]

Totally makes sense that the sky bison, of all animals, could have a sub species totally untamed by the air nomads somewhere else around the world. Especially since they’re all about freedom, I’m sure the air nomads aren’t actively searching for and rounding up every living bison in the world. Though the biggest problem with this is that we were to believe that Appa was the last sky bison, I wish that they’d actually just explain or show us that there were remaining bison within the shows/comics/novels themselves, instead of just telling us in an interview. Unless I’m forgetting something from the shows/comics/novels, so remind me.

[@chic-fil-ashouldopenonsund3623]

i find it hard to believe that low numbers of captive bison were able to multiply a lot considering there mightve been some inbreeding present.

[@tzeitelmccormick8297]

I'm pretty sure there was an episode where some people said they had collected the bison and raised them in secrecy, which is most likely that episode he just mentioned with those people dressed in red and yellow.

[@Daddyvader7]

I wish they would have kept Appa as the sky bison of Tenzin. Doing so you’d have to say that sky Bison can live well over 200 years, or age slower

[@noirwolf1177]

I wish I could have a Sky Bison. You have your own Appa.🥺

[@angrynoodletwentyfive6463]

it was actualy pretty well implied in the original Atla that somebody somewhere had access to flying bison with the biggest piece of evidence being that aang was able to buy a whistle shaped like one.

[@FrancisR420]

It was just a regular bison whistle, It only had two legs and a tiny ox tail. Also we have toys shaped like T-Rexes

[@lillrice27]

THE BABY SKY BISON ARE SO CUTE 😭😭😭😭😭

[@omega-xk4gj]

Basically every animal on the Four Air Temples Died Horrifically. But the others one who migrated away and overtime differentiated / speciated survived by virtue of NOT BEING WHERE THE FIRE WAS

[@98Kentuckian]

The Air Nomad Genocide has to be one of the saddest fictional occurences of all time

[@Apexthebeast]

I swear those babies are just too precious 🥰

[@ItsKatinasWorld]

Literally 😫🤌🏾

[@jaytay4027]

This was much calmer then i expected

[@Abigail09Franks]

Dude this is just like the banana situation where a disease kill almost all the bananas and the yellow one we have now was the one that was immune/ was uniffected. :/

[@dinodare1605]

Honestly, it makes sense how not a single Airbender managed to escape and survive, because any airbending master who could survive on their own in the world would have stayed and tried to defend their home, and any novice airbenders who would lack such an obligation also probably lacked the skills not to be hunted down by the fire nation.

[@saile6864]

That was what I’ve been thinking about for like 4 years