How Do They Get Away With It?

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ChilliJonCarne

ChilliJonCarne

Күн бұрын

Let’s have a look at the latest letter I got about the Tv Licence fee. I fail to see how they get away with wording letters like this
Let’s have a look at a letter that the tv licence people have sent me, the brass neck on these people never ceases to astound me
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@173customdetailing9
@173customdetailing9 6 ай бұрын
Thanks to you I've just saved £159 , as I only watch KZbin Netflix , amazon prime , and play games on my TV, Thanks again
@Debbie-henri
@Debbie-henri 6 ай бұрын
​@@Craig121000Yeah, he pays an internet fee, we all do. You can barely function without internet these days, companies and the government have made sure of that. He's saying he doesn't have to pay a TV licence as well, so he does save £159.
@Bikergirl_40
@Bikergirl_40 6 ай бұрын
one of their tv license sales people went to a friends of mine while I was there. They even said that if we didn't watch BBC iplayer or watch live tv, then we didn't need a tv license. Fair play, he was decent and told us about the form you fill in to state you don't have a license to protect you. I paid for license for one more year then cancelled it as I don't watch live tv, only KZbin and Amazon prime
@AlanLong-h5s
@AlanLong-h5s 6 ай бұрын
Just throwing it out there, have you called the number on the letter, you might be surprised- it's automated and allows you to declare you don't need a licence and hey presto the letters stop.
@loonaticsrunningtheassylum
@loonaticsrunningtheassylum 6 ай бұрын
@Craig121000 BUT HE DOESN'T PAY THE BBC LICENCE FEE. so yes he have saved 159 quid a year.. What's so difficult to understand? Or are you 6 years old on mummies phone?
@harryfaber
@harryfaber 6 ай бұрын
@@AlanLong-h5s No they don't. I had a letter thanking me (after I declared no need for licence) and promising me that they would not contact me again for 2 years. My next letter, requesting that I contact them again to confirm that I didn't need a licence, came just 12 months later, and of course had my name on it, not 'Legal Occupier'. Best advice is to have nothing to do with them, when their letters arrive, bin them, use them as firelighters, whatever, but do not respond to them.
@Bladerunner_2019
@Bladerunner_2019 6 ай бұрын
Down with the BBC.
@dexwolfpack7919
@dexwolfpack7919 6 ай бұрын
funny things to me is the BBC was original sponsered by the goverment as it was the number 1 way for the goverment to pass meggages onto the thepeople whicj is why it got this status given modern day tech most go their computer before the tv and if they do go to the tv even less would load up the bbc to get its world news as it the most upto date news comes from from scocial media befor most of these platforms making them obsolete but hanging on to a bi gone era when was the last time you seen a teenager pick up a news paper to read
@Brian-mb9ez
@Brian-mb9ez 6 ай бұрын
Someone should take tv licensing court for harassment and bullying
@cliffordbuttle4529
@cliffordbuttle4529 6 ай бұрын
They are up in Scotland 😮😊😊😊😊😊😊
@robtheplod
@robtheplod 6 ай бұрын
The bbc are granted an exemption by the government... any case would lose.... ask your mp why they allow it!
@busking6292
@busking6292 6 ай бұрын
That's when 'officialdom' close ranks and courts cease to be unbiased arbitors IOW they would be instructed to arrive at a preset conclusion regardless of facts and whoever presents them,it could possibly be successful in an international court...but I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen,too many vested interests and much money involved+it would just be appealed endlessly until the 'right' verdict was reached.
@Greggspies
@Greggspies 6 ай бұрын
@@robtheplod MPs get a free licence
@jasmith85
@jasmith85 5 ай бұрын
@@Greggspies they great free everything paid for by mr mrs tax payer like you and me.
@edsimkins9936
@edsimkins9936 6 ай бұрын
Not had a licence for about 8 years now, all my letters go straight in my shredder without even opening...
@robtheplod
@robtheplod 6 ай бұрын
I forward mine to my mp asking why they allow the bbc to behave in this way....
@iancorfield2488
@iancorfield2488 6 ай бұрын
I throw their letters away without opening them, I don't watch television, and I definitely don't want to watch the woke, biased BBC government propaganda
@mattwuk
@mattwuk 6 ай бұрын
I can just picture their face when they knock on your door and they see you stood there 😂😂😂😂
@thedogsdiddies8421
@thedogsdiddies8421 6 ай бұрын
I'd say we will soon see their face as Jon will be videoing the entire thing!
@LawrenceGardiner
@LawrenceGardiner 6 ай бұрын
"I'll put you down as refused then, shall I?" 🚶‍♂️🚪
@cyberdonblue4413
@cyberdonblue4413 6 ай бұрын
🤣😂@@LawrenceGardiner
@random-person1
@random-person1 6 ай бұрын
Who else would be stood at his door?
@docsavage101
@docsavage101 6 ай бұрын
Can we print your photo to put in our window stating no thank you... John?😂😂
@iantobanter9546
@iantobanter9546 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if their disgusting treatment of Steve Wright will prompt a new raft of cancellations?
@EgoChip
@EgoChip 6 ай бұрын
Let's hope so. I doubt it though, I think everyone who is going to cancel has done so already. The rest of the sheep will continue to pay their pointless tax for dumb entertainment and brainwashing.
@nungfish
@nungfish 6 ай бұрын
What have they done?
@EgoChip
@EgoChip 6 ай бұрын
@@nungfish They replace him because he was too old, too straight, too male, and too white.
@nungfish
@nungfish 6 ай бұрын
@@EgoChipAnother woke victim, sad.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 6 ай бұрын
@@EgoChip Will the BBC's last heterosexual white male please switch off the lights when he leaves Broadcasting House.
@praetorian65
@praetorian65 6 ай бұрын
It's amazing how a single notification (SORN) is enough for the DVLA, but TV Licensing feel the need to be constantly told that you don't need a TV licence.
@icouldbewrongicouldberight
@icouldbewrongicouldberight 6 ай бұрын
They have ANPR everywhere, watching to see if the motor goes in the road, whilst the detector vans don't work?
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff 6 ай бұрын
I've had reminder emails about SORN? So it's pretty similar. SORN should follow the TV licence if you ask me. The assumption should be if you don't have it you don't need or want it. Prove it if you think otherwise.
@Cunningliinguist
@Cunningliinguist 6 ай бұрын
If you own a fishing rod but don't go fishing you don't need a fishing licence.
@christopheremms2891
@christopheremms2891 6 ай бұрын
A very good analogy.
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 6 ай бұрын
I had a car when I was 15, no licence either
@dazzieboi5430
@dazzieboi5430 6 ай бұрын
so true, i fish sometimes but i pay for week licence each time when I do go but they have never sent me a letter telling me I don't have a licence
@MyRackley
@MyRackley 6 ай бұрын
@@MikeEves Dinky or Matchbox?
@frankbrodie5168
@frankbrodie5168 6 ай бұрын
@@MikeEves Yeah. Both me and my mate owned cars before we passed our driving tests. Him in about 1981 I think it was. Me a couple of years later. Back when you could read the local free newspaper (The Rotherham Record in Rotherham at that time.) and walk to a nearby address and pay someone £50 or even less, for a banger.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 6 ай бұрын
I've got a pile of about 100 letters, telling me I'm under investigation. I used to throw them away but I'm keeping them now. I could just tell them I DON'T HAVE A TV but I prefer to waste their postage expenses.
@mortuaryartist
@mortuaryartist 6 ай бұрын
So have I 😂
@thedogsdiddies8421
@thedogsdiddies8421 6 ай бұрын
LOL It's also fun to install a video door bell and keep them hanging on, reply back "one second, I'm just getting my shoes on" while you aren't even in the house. Keep them waiting in the cold and rain until they suddenly realise you are taking the pi$$ and laughing at them!
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 6 ай бұрын
@@thedogsdiddies8421 Hahaha!
@user-qz9st5cq7q
@user-qz9st5cq7q 6 ай бұрын
its toilet paper for when u run out ..
@mygreatbigfoot1679
@mygreatbigfoot1679 6 ай бұрын
Paper cuts, and it certainly does when you’re trying to use the cheap stuff that they use. 💩That’s why the envelope’s red. An old telephone directory or a copy of the Thompson’s directory or even the Yellow pages is more comphurtable.
@glastomole9570
@glastomole9570 6 ай бұрын
This scandalous racket MUST end!!! Keep up the good fight Jon👊
@davegordon2187
@davegordon2187 6 ай бұрын
40+ years...no licence with two visits just shut the door
@averyvaliant
@averyvaliant 6 ай бұрын
Makes me wonder how much paper and plastic (plastic window on envelope) are wasted on these letters each year. It must be a lot if a single individual gets several letters a month.
@icouldbewrongicouldberight
@icouldbewrongicouldberight 6 ай бұрын
I just don't know how they can't "get" that many folk simply don't want to have a TV nor see their jeffing propaganda. (Yeah I know it's really about bullying)
@nungfish
@nungfish 6 ай бұрын
Straight in my recycle bin.
@Tony-c7z9t
@Tony-c7z9t 6 ай бұрын
It's more concerning about how many trees are chopped down to produce the paper.
@u-two
@u-two 6 ай бұрын
all get paid by BBC they could give all that money to food bank
@Tony-c7z9t
@Tony-c7z9t 6 ай бұрын
@@u-two I'd go a step further and say it's the bbc misusing public money, cus it's the public that are forced to give bbc their hard earned cash.
@martinwalker3372
@martinwalker3372 6 ай бұрын
These letters are outrageous Jon. I keep getting the blasted things too.
@utube4andydent
@utube4andydent 6 ай бұрын
Far too many assumptions in this empty threat letter.
@pontiouspilotman
@pontiouspilotman 6 ай бұрын
10 years ago I was living in Dubai but every time I came home there was a pile of these letters waiting for me in the hallway! my GF at the time was a long established lawyer who read these and was convinced this was demanding money with menace’s! she did how ever rebuke me for not buying a TV licence as most reasonable people did, you can afford it etc etc. to which my reply was why the hell should I I live in the UAE for most of the year! She is no longer my GF!
@JeffreySawyer-y7x
@JeffreySawyer-y7x 6 ай бұрын
I was unemployed several years ago due to illness and on benefits. I was unable to pay my licence fee just before Christmas. . I was fined £475, which I had to pay by instalments out of my JSA. I was threatened with six months in prison if I did not pay the court. I was forced to live on £35 a week. I have hated the BBC and their licence fee every since. They claimed that as I had a working tv set in the house the licence was mandatory.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod 6 ай бұрын
That's not grounds to take you to court. You must have spoken to the salesmen?
@Syptah47
@Syptah47 6 ай бұрын
I think I would have done the six months in prison than pay any money to the BBC. At least I would have got three good meals and a comfy bed! Plus know doubt a tv which I would have watched all day .. my penance for not abiding the rules!
@782sirbrian
@782sirbrian 6 ай бұрын
Licence free for 15 months, should have done it years ago... thanks for all your help and reassuring talks on this subject.
@DavidSmith-ze2wi
@DavidSmith-ze2wi 6 ай бұрын
Had my usual monthly threatogram last Monday. Ripped it up unopened and binned as usual. I've had these investigations letters many times so I guess they're repeating the series. Just junk mail.
@francisorielly9698
@francisorielly9698 6 ай бұрын
Threatogram 😂
@newton18311
@newton18311 6 ай бұрын
Any letter that states, To the Legal Owner, goes straight in the Bin Un opened.
@rayro999
@rayro999 6 ай бұрын
A brief history of protection rackets:T THE MAFIA: "pay up or we'll send the boys round" THE BBC: "pay up or we'll send the boys round"
@user-sc9ct9hw1i
@user-sc9ct9hw1i 6 ай бұрын
The letters could be classed as bullying. The TV licence is protected by government.
@My2up2downCastle
@My2up2downCastle 6 ай бұрын
It's abuse..... bullying is a kiddy word
@StellaAsh
@StellaAsh 6 ай бұрын
Harassment
@hariowen3840
@hariowen3840 6 ай бұрын
Just like the Post Office and Horizon is.
@hariowen3840
@hariowen3840 6 ай бұрын
@@Isa712x Wow! - how do you watch TV with earphones???
@stevegee8010
@stevegee8010 6 ай бұрын
@@Isa712x No, you're not accurate. You can watch as much TV as you want without a licence as long as it's not live content, so any accessories are irrelevant.
@justinformed7367
@justinformed7367 6 ай бұрын
I keep this same letter near my door, & when goons visit I show the letter & say 'I couldn't possibly comment on a live investigation!'. It's what police & politicians say when they don't want to answer questions.
@FuelPoverty
@FuelPoverty 6 ай бұрын
I like that plan. My own is to send them up to the village post office to buy me a book of stamps so that I can "contact" them.
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha nice.
@David-pw6dt
@David-pw6dt 6 ай бұрын
It was in the seventies, they use to push their way into your home. Very roughly I might add. You can understand why pensioners are terrified by these scum who call to harass them with terror tactics!!!!
@zippy5131
@zippy5131 6 ай бұрын
So if I've been waiting in now for three years, for the goon to turn up and they havn't... Can I take them to court for loss of earnings and some form of imprisonment???.. What a waste of oxygen these people are.. Then again if they turn up I think I'll show 'em my ring peice as the NHS hasn't investigated that.............
@nonstopextremevideogamers2208
@nonstopextremevideogamers2208 6 ай бұрын
I have not paid the licence fee for a few years... got the letters and went online to tell the BBC I don't need their services. About 3 months ago they write again, just checking I haven't changed my mind, so I ignored it. Yesterday a new letter, no phone number or any way of contacting them.... So I, reluctantly, completed the online disclosure and told them I am certain I don't need a licence... I am still under investigation so telling then is not enough... Also look at the wording on the declaration form, it's atrocious
@grahamsmith8648
@grahamsmith8648 6 ай бұрын
Don't stress Chilli. I think the TV officers are more scared of you, to ever turn up to your house! Keep giving them a shove!
@thedogsdiddies8421
@thedogsdiddies8421 6 ай бұрын
You can see them coming a mile out with clipboards, hand held device etc. Why even answer the door to them?!? Let them stand in the pissin rain knocking as long as they want!! Even better, get a video door bell and keep saying you'll be there in a second, waste their time as much as possible.
@MyRackley
@MyRackley 6 ай бұрын
Great idea. Maybe get one with an annoying jingle that repeats and repeats. Lol.
@johngray1972
@johngray1972 6 ай бұрын
Harassment pure and simple, legal threats with no intention to actually take legal action.
@stevea4771
@stevea4771 6 ай бұрын
The last 2 have come in a normal envelope with no second window where it would say a menacing sentence. Quite enjoyable to see when you last had the same letter
@OH2023-cj9if
@OH2023-cj9if 6 ай бұрын
I haven't paid for a licence since 1994! I have saved loads and only had to shut the door 3 times.
@geofflawton6826
@geofflawton6826 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I had the same threatening letter on a property we are trying to sell. Empty property. Totally intimidating.
@MyRackley
@MyRackley 6 ай бұрын
It would frighten any ghosts out 👻
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 6 ай бұрын
I love your responses! Crazy extortionists!
@peejaygeee
@peejaygeee 6 ай бұрын
Spot on as usual, only in UK could such outfits be tolerated, where a tax is paid not to the government but to fund an outdated anti British establishment. I decided years back to stop watching and listening BBC TV and radio. I dutifully applied for and received a two year exemption’ licence but guess what after six months these threatening letters began arriving. I have occasionally written ‘not at this address’ on the front of the unopened letter with an arrow saying see over and underlining the address on the back and popped it in the nearest post box. I understand the Post Office charge the recipient of such returns.
@mrsb3650
@mrsb3650 6 ай бұрын
My licence expired last month. I've already had a letter saying my details have been passed to an enforcement officer and my address is under investigation. Apparently I may get a visit. I'm really scared.....not. Thanks to you Jon. You gave me the courage to finally stop paying.
@mortuaryartist
@mortuaryartist 6 ай бұрын
After 8 years of letters I have not bothered to open I have not had a letter for about 3 months. I am almost disappointed at this point. Should I telephone them to complain 🤔
@simplestuff3895
@simplestuff3895 6 ай бұрын
Someone called the police at a loud party I was at years ago, complaining that no one had called the police to report the out of control party. A couple of hours later they called back to complain that the police hadn’t attended. They said that they had gone round, but upon ringing the doorbell, someone answered and told them to ‘f off’ and closed the door! 😂
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 6 ай бұрын
​@@simplestuff3895a noisy party isn't a criminal matter and not a police matter.
@simplestuff3895
@simplestuff3895 6 ай бұрын
@@MikeEves …there may have been some arrests!!
@craiguk82
@craiguk82 6 ай бұрын
4th year with no licence, thanks to you 👍 I have declared it twice though. No letters, no visit (as far as I know) yet.
@andymeadows2768
@andymeadows2768 6 ай бұрын
I am 6 years free in march
@andymeadows2768
@andymeadows2768 6 ай бұрын
No letters for me so that is right but if you are coming up to your 2 years up they will send you a letter like they have to me mine went in the cat litter tray the day I got it
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 6 ай бұрын
Would you declare you don't have a gun too if asked?
@davelucas8126
@davelucas8126 6 ай бұрын
Same here, replied with a “not needed” in 2016. We don’t get harassed with letters or visits, just resend the same every two years and if they do turn up at our door they’ll get the recommended “no thanks” response! I really don’t see the problem with the “not needed” replies, apart from their presumptive attitude?
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 6 ай бұрын
@@davelucas8126 so if you do watch live TV all the time, just declare you don't and you are free....
@Sav453
@Sav453 6 ай бұрын
I got the same letter. I can wallpaper the house with the amount of letters I got 😂
@roger-taylor
@roger-taylor 6 ай бұрын
It’s a complete mass mail out, I’ve got one that’s been useful in lighting my fire..thanks TV licensing 😀
@My2up2downCastle
@My2up2downCastle 6 ай бұрын
They cannot compute that there are actually folk, living in this country, who just do not watch tv programmes....live or otherwise...... I am NOT a customer.....they will not leave me the eff alone re these acidly worded letters. I thought mental abuse and gaslighting was now a criminal offence. I have to endure this ongoing sh/t because of people who watch tv illegally.....not that i actually agree with the license. 'Declaring' you don't need a license, online, is by carefully selected multiple choice trickery..... there's no option for 'I'm just not interested in/do not watch tv programmes, on any device, live or otherwise'....
@krisjames999
@krisjames999 6 ай бұрын
I got one yesterday saying you are hereby given official notice😂😂😂
@kevinthegerbil2708
@kevinthegerbil2708 6 ай бұрын
Oh no !!!!! How scary.🤣
@hugebartlett1884
@hugebartlett1884 6 ай бұрын
They rely on scaring the woman of the house,assuming that the man of the house is away working. They try to catch the woman off guard and vulnerable.
@robertd-dh8qm
@robertd-dh8qm 6 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work bud. i cancelled my Licence last year I've had a couple of letters and a visit when i was out. it's all threatening trying to worry us but i don't care. I'm like you i don't watch it so I'm not going to pay for something i don't use. Love what you do bud 👍🇬🇧
@TheBrummie60
@TheBrummie60 6 ай бұрын
Just received my first thuggery letter - finally initiated, John! 👍 Looking forward to my first goon visit. Ever thought of how we should respond when they swoop as we do the gardening out front? Instructed my Spanish-speaking wife to babble away briefly in her own language should a goon come when I'm out. Hasta la vista, BBC mafia.
@willdixon2349
@willdixon2349 6 ай бұрын
Ah, you've just got your first letter? Welcome aboard bro! Long live the peaceful revolution!
@robertsmith2956
@robertsmith2956 6 ай бұрын
Russian is a beautiful language. Even when you are polite it sounds like you are cussing them out.
@Summer-gl5oo
@Summer-gl5oo 6 ай бұрын
My dog thoroughly enjoyed tearing my stack of letters up. Had a right field day on that garbage. 😂
@StellaAsh
@StellaAsh 6 ай бұрын
Yup - I got another one yesterday! I am keeping them all - yours is exactly the same as mine
@LawrenceGardiner
@LawrenceGardiner 6 ай бұрын
I got one of them two days ago. Paper shredder goes brrrr 😊 Have you noticed how they go in cycles? First they start nice, then the 'reminders' turn into warnings which turn into threats. When you continue to ignore them they start all over again.
@KatCohen-wj1kx
@KatCohen-wj1kx 6 ай бұрын
Got this same letter on Tuesday!! That's about 10 investigations they have open on me now. I'm in Wales
@MultiSueH
@MultiSueH 6 ай бұрын
Hi Jon, I sent this exact letter to you this week mainly because it is stating ’TV receiving equipment needs a licence’ and I’m pleased you read it out to reassure anyone who also received it not to worry. 😮
@robertsmith2956
@robertsmith2956 6 ай бұрын
you would think they would put that at POS when you buy the tv just like the other taxes then.
@QuorkEx
@QuorkEx 6 ай бұрын
The. "What to expect in court" letter always used to annoy me the most, especially and it was always addressed to the legal occupier for stop. How on earth can it take someone to court when they don't even know their name? Still, that investigation had been proceeding for at least a dozen years by this point, so give them a chance. Eventually, they might have worked my name out, but I wasn't tolding my breath.
@stuartwarren5781
@stuartwarren5781 6 ай бұрын
Hi. If you have a stack of similar letters, please, please get Black Belt Barrister to get together with you and sue them for harassment! Then everybody in similar circumstances may do the same its an outrage! .. great videos btw.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod 6 ай бұрын
He won't touch them, nor will any solicitor.... bbc have an exception granted by government
@danton8302
@danton8302 6 ай бұрын
Be a nomad... Buy a narrow boat/caravan/camper van... install the Arial inside so they can't see it... Constantly move around so they can't find you... Watch live TV whenever you want!
@Kingcarparpeggio
@Kingcarparpeggio 6 ай бұрын
That’s plain stupid. Have you any idea how much a decent narrow boat costs. Just don’t pay it. Say no thanks and shut the door.
@danton8302
@danton8302 6 ай бұрын
​@@Kingcarparpeggiowasn't stupid for me! No nosey neighbours, love it! 😂
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 6 ай бұрын
I have an aerial on my house and a TV , no licence.
@Lovelylove4everyone
@Lovelylove4everyone 6 ай бұрын
If they ask to inspect your equipment, just say.... 'oooh saucy! You could at least buy me coffee first, you cheeky little jockey.'
@eartheart3694
@eartheart3694 6 ай бұрын
😂😅😂
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 6 ай бұрын
Lmao, nice one.
@willdixon2349
@willdixon2349 6 ай бұрын
Ooo-err missus !
@warriorontheedgeoftime4224
@warriorontheedgeoftime4224 6 ай бұрын
Save your tv licence letters, they make excellent fire lighters for the bbq in the summer. The envelopes are handy to use for shopping lists, to purchase things you actually want to buy... 😆
@johnferguson40
@johnferguson40 6 ай бұрын
Keep up the good fight. I've been directing people to your channel to get CORRECT info. The number of people I've talked to recently who are finished with the bbc is legion.
@whgamer4339
@whgamer4339 6 ай бұрын
Many people still think they need a tv licence to watch most of KZbin. Some of the comments on articles all over FB, the amount of people that haven't got a clue are buying a licence unnecessarily.
@michaelriches6699
@michaelriches6699 6 ай бұрын
A mobile phone, games console, laptops, ipads even some exercise equipment can be used to watch live TV and or BBC iplayer. Technically, anyone with a modern mobile phone has the ability to receive a television signal and watch iplayer. What confuses me is how if they get a court order and enter they can Technically claim you have receiving equipment, but unless they gain access to your property and catch you watching TV, and then prove it's live whilst filming the whole interaction and whilst not turning on your equipment and manipulating it. It seems impossible without a confession and full on handing yourself over that they can do anything. I can only assume the courts don't take anything TV licence relates seriously as well. Not paid for 6 years now, not had a visit either. Its a scam
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 6 ай бұрын
Yes it's a scam. The only people who get fined are those who confess.
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 6 ай бұрын
You got it right. It’s almost impossible for them to find out if you’re watching tv without a license if you don’t confess or let them in to inspect your home. You’d have to answer the door with the tv on in the background behind you and they see it. The only thing that I don’t know for certain is if they can look in through your windows and catch you watching tv inside. Especially if you live in a house with gardens and sneak into your garden to look through the window at you watching tv inside. Nor do I know, if you live in a ground floor flat if they can walk right up to your window and look in. I have no idea how the courts would react to evidence gained by a tv lisencing goon recording you on the sofa watching tv by looking and filming through your window. But, while I’m not officially condoning this, if you simply drew the curtains to make sure nobody could look inside and never answer the door/let them in then there’s no way for them to catch you watching live tv without a license. Knowing this, I find the numbers of people taken to court and convicted of watching tv without a licence kinda astonishing, especially if the goons can’t use evidence gained by looking/recording through a window. It means that tens of thousands of people are confessing/talking themselves into a conviction when all they needed to do is keep their mouths shut.
@gilessteve
@gilessteve 5 ай бұрын
@@mikoto7693 Exactly. A friend of mine was fined. He stupidly let them in. It's an intimidation game.
@Jonny_The_Organism
@Jonny_The_Organism 6 ай бұрын
The BBC perpetual Merry-Go-Round never ceases to amuse me as a never in the history of time paid for a license as I've never owned a tv wherever I've been and gone from.......the parents used to pay it when I still lived there....but... I left home in 1987....I took my separates music stack with me and that's all I needed...
@morpheusmemnoch4160
@morpheusmemnoch4160 6 ай бұрын
I got one of those same letters today and I'm in jockland. I laughed as it sailed into the correct bin.
@R.S_Howell
@R.S_Howell 6 ай бұрын
I'm actually amazed they haven't just blacklisted the letters to you. It wouldn't be hard for the BBC to find out your name and address from your YT channel and just stop. They're the gift that keeps on giving, if this isn't an illustration that they send the letters out willy nilly hoping to score a random catch then I don't know what is.
@ChilliJonCarne
@ChilliJonCarne 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure they know who I am by now too
@stevanderpeer
@stevanderpeer 6 ай бұрын
A question. Could you not send them a letter from a solicitor telling them to stop sending you threatening letters and if they don't then you can take them to court for threatening Beauvoir and harassment? That would turn the table on them. but I think there way out of it is that the letters do not have your name on them.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod 6 ай бұрын
No solicitor would touch it as the bbc are granted an exception by government.
@DerekMcGowan
@DerekMcGowan 6 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your comments and have not paid for a bbc tv licence this year and will continue to do so! Many of my friends have stopped paying the tv licence too! Thank you for all the info.
@ksturmer5388
@ksturmer5388 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your channel!!! Keep up the good work John.
@jaysparrowhawk9388
@jaysparrowhawk9388 6 ай бұрын
30 years ago I had a knock on the door, and I invited the goon in as I didn’t have a telly and I had nothing to hide. They searched every room in the house even the bathroom and asked me to sign a form declaring I didn’t have a telly and I thought that would be the end of it. After that I had two visits a week waving my signature in my face for the next two years until I moved house. I was only 21 at the time and I found it very scary and I felt like I had done something wrong. I continue to receive these letters to this day but now I just tell them to go forth, I’ve not had a visit for ten years now. Jon’s right if you don’t engage with them they give up and leave you alone.
@mary-louparker2374
@mary-louparker2374 6 ай бұрын
Been getting these letters every month without fail since August 2020. I cancelled my licence in July that year having notified TV licensing through their on line portal and getting a response. The ongoing monthly reminder/threat/hassle is a load of nonsense and I look forward to seeing one of the goons turn up on my doorstep😂
@FuelPoverty
@FuelPoverty 6 ай бұрын
We have two homes (my daughter lives in one of them), so I get 52 letters per year from them, so a total of around 200 thus far.
@spookyspoon6589
@spookyspoon6589 6 ай бұрын
Love your videos Jon, THANKYOU 👏👏👏👏♥️
@carlmayne3519
@carlmayne3519 6 ай бұрын
I've been saving my letters since last march when I moved into my new address ... Was thinking of seeing what would happen if I took them all to the police and report harassment - Have you heard about people doing this?
@ChilliJonCarne
@ChilliJonCarne 6 ай бұрын
Can say I've heard anyone actually do, I would imagine they would do nothing
@Summer-gl5oo
@Summer-gl5oo 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Jon's right, I have heard cases of the police ignoring people who do report them. I'm sorry.
@JayT-ou5ug
@JayT-ou5ug 6 ай бұрын
Jon, you ever done a FOI request on the cost of letters and postage only, stripped out of the PR budget as a whole?
@user-gb1tc6ws8n
@user-gb1tc6ws8n 6 ай бұрын
Nice one John 😊😊😊
@Dr.Gunsmith
@Dr.Gunsmith 6 ай бұрын
Bastards did me many years ago because i let them In, I didn’t even have a TV but had a old vhs video player they told me lies, that was their evidence and I got a fine, I had just moved in too, but i didn’t know any better. I want to take this further.
@dougieroberts7045
@dougieroberts7045 6 ай бұрын
I've had that one, Ooohhhh Nooooo, 'investigation opened', I am so scared, I dont think I will sleep ever again, I am mentally scarred, NOT.
@williamheywood9115
@williamheywood9115 5 ай бұрын
A householder is under no lawful obligation whatsoever to voluntarily answer any questions, sign any documents or allow TVL entry into their home without a search warrant.
@malcolmphillips3194
@malcolmphillips3194 6 ай бұрын
Nice one. My daughter is doing nothing wrong, do not need a licence but bombarded with TV licencing letters. I shall show her this.
@Dr.Gunsmith
@Dr.Gunsmith 6 ай бұрын
Tesco’s getting a court warrant for the cops to kick my door off it’s hinges because I only shop at Aldi 😂
@ianc4178
@ianc4178 6 ай бұрын
They don't scare me anymore ... thanks, mainly, to you but also others on YT. It goes straight in the recycling box, without even being opened. I'm just a little annoyed that they still have my personal details, despite my requesting they remove them - in writing! Hmm, maybe I should look into legal representation under GDPR? Thanks for everything you do, please keep it up!
@robtheplod
@robtheplod 6 ай бұрын
I took this up with them. The ico told me tvl are permitted by the government to keep your details even if you are not a customer....
@anonnemo2504
@anonnemo2504 6 ай бұрын
I've got a fishing rod in my loft somewhere. I've not used it for years. Presumably, I need to get myself a fishing licence again.
@johnraymondcave8426
@johnraymondcave8426 6 ай бұрын
Mine went into the bin.
@rfxtuber
@rfxtuber 6 ай бұрын
noooo... keep them for a potential real world harassment claim!!!!
@themole1944
@themole1944 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Chilli i keep spreading the word as best i can
@jayjayfire8367
@jayjayfire8367 6 ай бұрын
I have been legitimately TV licence free for over 2years and do not make their "no licence needed" declaration as i dont take kindly to thier bully boy tactics. What i actually find amusing is that for over 2 years they are still "starting an investigation" into my address.! This company is an absolute joke..! I hope this channel spreads far and wide in the hope more people see them for what they are and no longer be intimidated by the letters or door to door salesman.. You can do it..! ✊😉
@jameswalker7459
@jameswalker7459 6 ай бұрын
If U do let the goons in and they see a TV set ,,The goons will read you your criminal law rights and u will be taken too court,,The courts are breaking the law by fineing the occupier even so your TV set doesn't work or your not broadcasting or watching live TV...The judges should be thrown in jail for breaking the law,
@roydavies7465
@roydavies7465 6 ай бұрын
Well said mate. I haven't had a license for years thanks to you. Love the way I watch TV now. Could never go back to watching live broadcast TV and like you I play a straight game. Keep up your good work 💙
@dandoyle834
@dandoyle834 6 ай бұрын
I got the exact same letter today. 1 year tv licence free
@paulgreen2416
@paulgreen2416 6 ай бұрын
For a TV detection van to work your TV would have to be a transmitter. Anyone with any experience with electronics know this.
@mikehipperson
@mikehipperson 6 ай бұрын
The old cathode ray telly's emitted a 'carrier wave' that could be picked up when the box was turned on but it couldn't tell if you were watching Corrie or any other programmes!
@stevvieb
@stevvieb 6 ай бұрын
Not sure whats going on but I haven't had a harassment letter since october last year.
@squid4104
@squid4104 6 ай бұрын
Hi Chilli. I suppose the "elephant in the room" is.. if they don't threaten or intimidate no-one would pay the TV licence?
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 6 ай бұрын
I wonder about that too. If everyone knew that they could save themselves £159 a year by simply closing the curtains when they watched live tv and not answering the door to the goons/closing the door on them after they identify themselves, there was no way to be caught breaking the law… how many would choose to do it?
@squid4104
@squid4104 6 ай бұрын
@@mikoto7693 Exactly lol..
@m3uec
@m3uec 6 ай бұрын
If the BBC wants people to pay to watch their channels/service then why are they not using a subscription service to view, why are they transmitting television signals that are not encrypted?
@StanWatt.
@StanWatt. 6 ай бұрын
The stooges used to say that if your TV is capable of getting BBC1/2 or even if you have a plug on your telly you have to pay for the license.
@Mads1255
@Mads1255 6 ай бұрын
You are doing a great job John for the scared and vulnerable. Thank you👏👏👏🤗❤️
@NiTeFiSe
@NiTeFiSe 6 ай бұрын
Nearly 20 years ago, after numerous letters and a very heated visit from an enforcement officer, which I let in after being threatened with being reported for an offence just because I wouldn't allow their "inspection"(I know, I wasn't as well informed back then) I wrote and told TV Licencing that I did not need a licence. I also told them that I had removed the implied right of access to my property and any further contact would be regarded as harassment. I have never heard from them again. None of this should be required. If I need a licence, I will get one, simple. Now I know my rights, I'm almost disappointed they don't start trying it on again!
@bobmaley6491
@bobmaley6491 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant as always.
@cjh0751
@cjh0751 6 ай бұрын
I hate to say it but as soon as the boomers have left this earth, the BBC will have to find another way to fund their channels because they are going to need a different funding model.
@Edithae
@Edithae 6 ай бұрын
When Labour takes over again, the BBC will bribe them to fund it with taxes. There'll be no avoiding it then, everybody will have to pay.
@beatergrouse
@beatergrouse 6 ай бұрын
Save the trees Jon!!
@user-vr2ij6yb6h
@user-vr2ij6yb6h 6 ай бұрын
Gary Lineker is the BBC'S new Jimmy Savile. 😒
@paulsmith982
@paulsmith982 6 ай бұрын
I haven't had a license for 9 years. I just throw their letters in the bin. Haven't seen an inspector once in that time. A friend of mine once engaged with them by mail. The last letter from them demanded that he prove he didn't have TV. His response to that was. "How do I do that, take photographs of the corners of my lounge showing no TV?"
@MaximusOwen1
@MaximusOwen1 6 ай бұрын
Doubt you’ll get a visit any time soon, I’ve been under investigation for 4 years and nothing, not like I live in a small village either. Now that I know about these letters it’s amusing to see them go round in cycles. Starts with making enquiries into a full on ‘investigation’, and then back to enquiries a few months later.
@Adrian-ek8hu
@Adrian-ek8hu 6 ай бұрын
I think I am on the same timetable as you for receiving letters. We get the exact same ones at the same time.😂
@hellrazor2050
@hellrazor2050 3 ай бұрын
Shared your video's with my daughter as she only watches Netflix and a few movies on prime and was worried about the letters from TV licensing she did finally get the goon visit, As per your advice no thanks mate and shut the door not heard from them since . So thank you for putting this out their and giving people the confidence to stand up to these tyrants P.S still trying to wean the wife off live tv so i can save £159 quid a year
@ChrisRaine.
@ChrisRaine. 6 ай бұрын
Just the words “watching TV illegally” is absolutely mental!
@gilessteve
@gilessteve 5 ай бұрын
It's right up there with 'unauthorised use of a pencil sharpener'.
@Dave.Thatcher1
@Dave.Thatcher1 6 ай бұрын
Got one today....filed straight into the recycling bin (where all the previous ones go!).
@Maynards_so_blue
@Maynards_so_blue 6 ай бұрын
Im in the exaxt same situation as you. I moved in to a new house (council though) over a year ago and they keep sending me these letters but i ignore them. Its still addressed to legal occupier. Not had a visit yet. I live in the north of Scotland so even up here the BBCs corruption is strong. They stopped using red letters at least.
@GaryBox
@GaryBox 6 ай бұрын
Been without a licence for about 4 years. I've previously declared every two years but refuse to do it anymore. I'm fully aware of the rules and don't watch any live tv and never watch BBC iplayer. There is only one programme on the BBC i would watch if i could, their output is that bad. If I'm staying in hotel I might watch something live but more than willing to forego that at home to withhold income to this disgusting broadcaster.
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