How Does Patriarchy Affect Us Today?

[@mooa_anatta_]

I live in South Korea. This video is the most articulate, logical and unobjectionable video about patriarchy I've ever seen. Amy smile and correct pronunciation stylish editing leaves no time to be bored. I will recommend this video to many of my friends and thank you for speaking kindly to all genders.

[@jlcl96]

I love that you have brought this knowledge to KZbin. The visual addition to your excellent work is going to spread the message so much more effectively. Thank you!

[@lgottuso1949]

Thank you for your work, how have I experienced patriarchy, I came from a home that was patriarchy leaning, joined the Mormon church at 15 left at 28 after I became a nurse: it’s everywhere: in the attitudes of my father, my husband, boys will be boys, churches, education, business, medicine, It has changed in law and rights but it’s in the culture- my biggest pet peeve: girlfriend’s who are patriarchy leaning and fawn in my face towards my husband…it’s demeaning, hurtful, a silent betrayal. when your awake to it, it’s so annoying…I’ve addressed it and they can’t seem to stop. It’s built in their psyche, men seem to love it….it’s a construct that needs awareness…. Thank you for doing this work….

[@Bradley_Lute]

I'm your own words, there are women that seem to love patriarchy. It's in them too. Because it is a mode of production that works for many but not you. You have work to do to see that women support patriarchy just as much as men do and it effects men just as much as women. It isn't a cabal of men controlling women. Rather, the ways you feel controlled under it, make other women feel safe.

[@jamiewagner7066]

This is the one of the best videos I've ever watched. Thank you so much!

[@abbyeh1]

I'm so glad you've got a KZbin channel! Everything you create is excellent.

[@angelbunny101]

I attended a wedding where the priest STRESSED the importance of obedience of the wife to her husband. I wanted to scream at him.

[@lynmcgrow9246]

Our ex PM Tony Abbott (Australian), at a wedding gave a speech about the bridesmaids, and said this about the all female bridesmaids 'I'm so glad to see that there are still women who are quiet and just happy to be admired.' That was our leader at the time!! And he couldn't fathom why women loathed him!!

[@e.458]

I feel that what isn't talked about here is that you can't just decide not to participate in patriarchy. Patriarchic and sexist norms and gender expectations have been woven so finely into our culture our way of thinking that we're often not aware of them. That goes for men and women (look up "internalised misogyny"). Why do even most "modern" men feel comfortable acting like guests at their own Thanksgiving dinners, do the carving of the turkey that took their female relatives hours, sometimes days to prepare, while they also did most of the overall preparation? Why do the male relatives sit comfortably on the couch watching the game while the female relatives clean up? Why do the female relatives do all that work without even being asked to do that? Patriarchal ideas in our heads need to be questioned every day, we all have them. And we all are capable of doing or saying sexist things without realising. That doesn't make us a raging misogynist and unredeemable bad guy, it means we still have some deconstructing work to do. And maybe we should apologise and try to understand what we did wrong there. Don't get defensive, don't double down. Get interested and open-minded. All that btw also goes for racism, ableism, etc.

[@dnick1981]

Anything so subtle that it appears to be “interwoven” into society isn’t really worth complaining about.

[@hatchin]

I make the turkey because my husband works his ass off to take care of me and my daughter. He deserves all the rest he can get.

[@path2source]

Why do men sacrifice their lives to save women who they’ve never met at mass shootings, which are universally committed by men? Biology is a curious thing.

[@wokecommunist3095]

As a gay male, I 100% agree with you. I feel like we've all got some unlearning to do when it comes to oppression. I've always hated heteronormativity.

[@Bradley_Lute]

I think it's interesting that you don't see misandry and male issues under patriarchy worth even mentioning. You talk about getting curious about it but you cannot name an entire dynamic that takes place that effects men. You can only think about how women are effected by having to make dinner. I've never seen a situation where that wasn't accompanied by men that work more and make more than women. If you want to dismantle patriarchy you should put down concepts like internalized misogyny and pick up ones like misandry and success objectification. You are still creating a patriarchal dynamic by focusing on female suffering and asking for protectionism and consideration for only women. Patriarchy isn't unfair. If you think that, you aren't seeing the full dynamic. Patriarchy restricts choice for both sexes and ascribes roles that fit many but not all. That's why it needs to be challenged. If you saw what it was like to do physical labor work, you wouldn't be going on about cutting the turkey. It's dangerous and demeaning not unlike sex work, but a lot more men do it.

[@Visenyaaa]

9:20 Patriarchy quite literally destroyed my life. It still is right now actually, everything I want and need right now I cannot have because of patriarchy. But not forever.

[@the8thchurch461]

Same here. I am trying to take a crazy fundamentalist cult to court for ruining my life with its mad obsession with women having babies to increase its population

[@Visenyaaa]

@ I am so sorry my love, I am happy your are free🕊️ that’s all that matters. Did you have kids? Are they ok? If you don’t mind me asking.

[@the8thchurch461]

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[@catmoshpit1216]

The labor you are doing is a serious work of art. The way you gently and carefully explain while working around fragile people and conversations.

[@missymack2003]

This is a great break down. Easy for anyone to understand and share. So important to have awareness around patriarchy. Thank you!!

[@gurlycash7394]

In my experience the same people that say patriarchy doesn't exist are usually the same that don't see racism. It's the funniest thing 😂

[@amandalynnblair7]

Yay! Amy’s work is incredible, thorough and articulate. So excited for this

[@mariheward]

This is fantastic. Thank you for making this.

[@arianaruthbaltay684]

I've listened to and enjoyed so many of Amy Allebest's podcasts and learned so much. I'm so excited to have the added impact that KZbin video will offer as she continues to unwrap the complicated layers of Patriarchy. She has taken on Patriarchy so that we can learn how this happened and also what may finally set us on a fairer path, a path that study shows would benefit men as well as women. Her work is always grounded in thorough and careful research, and her explanations are clear and thoughtful, while taking a considerate and respectful approach. Thank you, Amy.

[@MaeveValton-l7z]

Very good series! Thank you. This combo of patriarchy and sexism: Some male builders were doing obviously bad work on our house, I, as a young woman, pointed out their shoddy work and said they needed to do it properly. They ignored me. I put my phone to my ear for a few minutes and then said, my dad says you're doing it wrong and need to do it right. They fixed it.

[@dnick1981]

I bet you weren’t able to explain exactly what was wrong. Hence they disregarded you as having no authority

[@M.Swigglez]

@@dnick1981the gaslighting is crazy.

[@MaeveValton-l7z]

​@@dnick1981 You seem like a troll. I did explain what they were doing wrong, they were trying to repair a bit of the roof by putting a layer of plastic sheet over battons and then placing roofing tiles directly on top of that. Do you understand why that is incorrect or do I have to explain to you about grip and gravity? I had no authority? Why do you presume that? Is it because you're sexist? I owend the house. Maybe you should have think about your biases

[@peke1822]

@@dnick1981read her comment again, her dad wasn’t even involved

[@dnick1981]

@@peke1822 read my comment again: I never mentioned her dad

[@ashleymaehoiland5509]

So excited to work through the whole series!

[@ACE-ef1xz]

This is so exciting! I love this first one and can't wait to see more!

[@sarahmills2098]

Excellent educational video! Very informative and tactful. Great job!

[@coll4455]

I am so glad i found this channel through Mormon stories! Just subscribed and hit the notification to all ❤

[@ashleymaehoiland5509]

This is brilliant and helpful. I am going to go and watch with my kids today.

[@CameronSwinton]

Fabulous intro to your content!

[@supercrawfordcrawford5865]

Ok, this is sharp! I'm not surprised, btw, just wildly impressed. I'm excited to share these videos with my people.

[@awolf81]

You’re excited to share these videos with the Bitter Bitches Club so ya’ll have more bitch about 👍🏼

[@marycorbett1744]

So happy to have found you! Excellent videos.

[@ruchicasingh]

I experienced patriarchy even before birth, my mom did not want the fourth child but my grand grandmother pressured her to keep me for a chance of having a boy. Interestingly,My dad sides with female empowerment not just for us but for extended family.

[@trenyarae]

Thank you so much, Amy! 🙌

[@Kurooganeko]

It's so refreshing to see someone who takes upon the door the Barbie movie opened for feminism and the patriarchy conversation and decided to talk about the systems and educate and empower, instead of picking out the flaws on the movie while diminishing Greta's and Margot's work. A true feminist and a true rational thinker right here

[@popsicle8694]

hmmm while i agree it can be counterproductive to just point out the flaws in the barbie movie’s feminism without providing any solutions or insights, i don’t think it’s fair to say criticizing it in itself makes someone not a true feminist. the barbie movie made important strides in bringing some feminist arguments to the mainstream, but that doesn’t absolve it of criticism.

[@rhondakoenig6452]

@popsicle8694I have to agree… criticism for parts of the movies was due. I was not a fan of the opening at all… it left a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. So I didn’t recommend my daughter or granddaughter to see… The violent destruction of the doll babies… to show the impact of patriarchy, which we know is a thing and I believe was lessened greatly with that in the beginning of the movie. Even feminist love babies and doll babies…demonstrating that caring for children has been indoctrinated since we were little and is not the woman’s only role which may have been the idea could have been done with no violence.

[@path2source]

4:59 The comparisons you put forth are quite interesting. I hope you see the light one day.

[@websurfer5772]

I'm looking forward to delving more into this channel.

[@ess_ess_207]

Thank you so much! Im working through your brilliant and lovely podcast series and found your videos today! You broke everything down very clearly - I cant wait to start sharing these with my tween kiddos.

[@taykels11ty]

This is going to be a fantastic series! While I (F) grew up with experiences that would fit Patriarchy examples, I didn’t become really aware of it until I went through the LDS temple the night before my wedding and my wedding day (2011). In my religious ceremony it is scripted that I give myself and my (M) spouse receive me. Our relationship until that point always felt incredibly equal. Also, I was told to reveal/give my “new name” to him at the veil, but was taught I could never know his. I also (unknowingly) covenanted to harken unto him as he harkened to God. Another word for obey. And when our first daughter was born, I became endlessly and intensely aware of the patriarchal systems in which I was enmeshed.

[@websurfer5772]

Thanks for sharing your story. It's important for us to learn this. I'd like to see humanity evolve beyond patriarchy.

[@KasiaWesoek]

Very nice video, logical etc. I think I might subscribe!

[@BG-ig6fd]

A wonderful series. So clearly and succinctly explained. Watching with my husband right now, and thinking these would be great to show in high schools and higher education. Thank you!

[@breakingdownpatriarchy]

Thank you so much!

[@StrudelNoodle]

I second this!

[@Zelig_G]

Awesome 👏🏼

[@phoenixrising7397]

This was a really good video. Thank you for making it.

[@andycakesends]

You had me until “…many men would never be misogynistic…” To me, this gives the same energy as saying many white people would never be racist. We are born into these systems and cannot help but be influenced by them. As a white person, I’d love an example of any white person who has never been racist. I’d like the same example for a man that’s never been misogynistic. We WILL have moments when those harmful systems come out through our own thoughts or beliefs or actions and we must be prepared to face those moments with understanding and actionable change moving forward, IMO.

[@pamelamceachern9537]

This was awesome! Thank you so much, you put everything very well. When I was a little girl growing up Catholic, I made the sign of the cross saying, "In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," I always felt the Holy Spirit was feminine. Intuitively I knew we girls were represented in the Trinity too! I look forward to more of your content!

[@neelred10]

Very refreshing. Agree 100% and feel optimistic that your approach would really help people to understand and approach feminism more positive.

[@rtmusicvideos431]

Great summary of patriarchy and its effects today! I wish you would have explained how patriarchy negatively impacts men too in this video because then it would be a great video to send to men who do not understand or believe that patriarchy exists. But overall it’s a great video!

[@Bradley_Lute]

In my opinion, the lack of realization that men are affected by patriarchy makes feminism very suspect. It is therefore just female perpetuated patriarchy. Feminist women are still expecting men to be successful and to protect them. A true feminism would first change its name and second, see it's role in patriarchy and why women benefit from it.

[@vanessa_cherie]

Your whole channel is brilliant and exactly what I’ve been looking for for as I’ve been going through a period of “unlearning” . Thank you for what you are doing ❤

[@deconstructingpatriarchy]

Super Duper excited to find you! While you’re looking at the facts of patriarchy, I stumbled upon the creation of patriarchy by Garner learner, which helped me understand the Y behind patriarchy and so much more. Maybe you get into that in your future videos I’m definitely jumping in Currently I am also working with how patriarchy got embedded into our cultural DNA via our creation, spiritual, political stories. This idea came to me after listening to Elaine Peggle’s book about her own spiritual journey where she talks about this. I think my only disagreement is that what we see today is not a residual effective patriarchy, but still very muchin the throes of patriarchy. Again, maybe we’re just talking past each other on this point developing my own series with this slant on my channel, which is how it led me to you and very thankful.

[@Bradley_Lute]

Patriarchy is essentially ape culture isn't it? It wasn't created by humans. It was created by sexual reproduction. It is perpetuated in humans because we are somewhere physiologically in between a tournament and egalitarian species. Start with evolution if you want to see why patriarchy exists. It's not that I'm pro patriarchy, but I'm not going to deny the obvious reality that material conditions caused it to exist. I think your videos would be interesting if they actually reflected that. Biologists have elegant explanations of why we have two genders and two sexes (all other genders are just blends of gender, sex and orientation, not more genders). And evolutionary Psychologists aren't all men either. Lots of women in the field not denying real sex differences and not outright rejecting patriarchy.

[@BenjamesDerrick]

I always come back to the thought of men in primitive societies being in charge of physically protecting wives and children from the elements or marauding invaders. I also think about how being pregnant, and with young child incapacitates a women who is usually weaker physically due to sexual dimorphism.

[@annewillardson5088]

Hey, Amy! Congrats on the new KZbin channel! Not sure if you remember, but my husband was the one that “earned” a new Xbox by listening to your podcast series. He is still a feminist and our relationship remains strong because we still share the same values and vision of the future. I was wondering if you could do a mini series on KZbin of Donald Trump/MAGA movement and modern Patriarchy? How it affects politics in America and the world today? Trump is where my realization of patriarchy began. I’d love to hear your educated perspective and voice covering one of the world’s greatest immediate threats to democracy, peace, and women’s and LGBTQ+ rights. Thanks for sharing your hard work and expertise on this critical movement.

[@ebriceno]

This series is so helpful and well done. Thank you for all the research you've done and for creating this series to educate the rest of us so that we can all make the world a better place for all!

[@SheenaOfTheJungle]

Break it down into consumable comprehendible pieces 🎉 thank you

[@truthlovenow]

🙏🏼 thank you 🙏🏼 The PRODUCTION VALUE of your videos and editing skills make your EDUCATIONAL VALUE relatable, easily digestible and accessible to the masses no matter what level of education / exposure has been accumulated in one’s life. Everybody in your audience is treated equally regardless of background or belief systems. BRAVO 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@stevenparkin6486]

I suspect that "The Butterfly Effect" may be occurring here. While family and community duties are apportioned, men and women select duties best suited to themselves. Child-bearing is one duty that only women can do, drawing many (but not all) women to do it, a task requiring significant energy. Concurrently, men gravitated toward other tasks including all that government and community leadership stuff where men wrote the rules through their male lens. Forward 10,000 years and we get today's patriarchy, an unintended consequence that sprung from women as exclusive child-bearers. If we could make a massive spreadsheet, totaling the work of all men and all women over generations, that total may show equal effort from men and women per capita. A woman's effort is largely embodied within the lives of her children while a man's effort is embodied in a craft, structure, technical trade, or community asset; and much of that domain shows up as patriarchy.

[@breakingdownpatriarchy]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. We hope you continue to watch and interact with the content here.

[@awolf81]

I think you hit the nail on the head here. "A woman's effort is largely embodied within the lives of her children". The problem is embodying your effort in your children doesn't get you much status or power in a societal sense.

[@markaurelius61]

@@awolf81 Women prefer men who have status, because the man's status is conferred on her, even if undeserved. A king's wife is called a queen; a queen's husband is called a consort. Almost sounds like escort. Women are not being suppressed by men having status. In fact, status could be seen as something that women give to men to motivate them to work for the community.

[@awolf81]

@@markaurelius61 Yea, that makes sense. A man with resources and prestige will give a woman status. However, I think it works both ways. I high status woman (aka highly attractive) will give a man status too. You don’t want to show up at the party with a portly, hideous woman on your arm. 😆

[@markaurelius61]

@@awolf81 Sure, but even an average woman will confer status to a man by being with him.

[@andydunn6899]

🎉 outstanding

[@OhSoShortcake]

I stumbled upon this thinking it was an ad at first, then it caught my attention when I realised that I, as a young person, don't know what patriarchy is. You've explained it so informatively and every point made was digestable and easy to understand, and I now know what patriarchy means, so thanks! :)

[@breakingdownpatriarchy]

Thank you so much! It is our hope that all people, especially the next generation will become informed and help in the work of dismantling patriarchy for the future.

[@littlebitoflys]

I grew up with four sisters and no brothers. More often than not, when someone learns this about me, they exclaim or mutter, "Oh, your poor dad!" As a kid, I knew that felt yucky. As an adult, I can see that the assumptions behind that are mostly patriarchal. On a hopeful note, I get this less often than I used to!

[@markaurelius61]

Patriarchal? No, the reality is that women relate differently from men, and men feel alienated in groups of females. People not saying that recently could be from the browbeating we are getting from feminism that prevents us from acknowledging anything wrong with females.

[@mrmateojones8368]

Weeeeell, I’m gonna say this as a father myself, raising daughters is a TOTALLY different ball game than raising boys.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

One example of the patriarchy at work is how femininity is seen as inferior to masculinity. Femininity is seen as weak, stupid, vapid, shallow, dumb, frivolous, oversexualized, and restricting, while masculinity is seen as strong, intellectual, courageous, protective, etc., and as a result many people both boys and girls are taught to devalue femininity and see it as less than. Young girls who are girly are often mocked for it, as I was, while young boys who like girly things are similarly ridiculed because, like you said, the patriarchy hurts men in different ways. In the patriarchy, women have low value, and so a man being equated to a woman is seen as lessening his value, thus, men who like feminine things are mocked. As a girly girl, I was raised to be ashamed of my femininity and think that it makes me weak, stupid, and inferior. It took me a while to realize that this wasn't the case and to truly embrace myself. This attitude is also why the not like other girls phase exists. And it needs to stop.

[@cindychurch335]

We a balance of masculine and feminine to live in a better world where we respect each other and our individual roll in life. Patriarchy has been dominant in the last ? Thousands of years. Some were extreme where men saw no value in women except to have their children and cook and clean. They took no interest in their feelings or thoughts. This greatly affected me as a child, having no loving father who gave me the time of day. It made me resentful of all males in my life. Only with therapy was I able to forgive and understand. But some have any desire to forgive or understand. We need these two energies to be balanced.

[@w2class]

I still don't understand this privilege thing. It sounds much more like the burden of responsibility.

[@Sheldonna-cg8lm]

Can you add a list of the books that you have read? I would love to read them

[@psikeyhackr6914]

What percentage of White men who fought for the South did not own slaves? When do you hear historians ask and discuss that question? Does patriarchy depend on the majority of White men being less than bright? Where is the data on the annual depreciation of automobiles and why don't White economists talk about Planned Obsolescence?

[@brianclark4040]

I don’t understand your second question. Regarding the first, the data is well known about the percentage of confederates who were not slave holders. Roughly 33% of white households in the confederacy held at least one person in a state of chattel slavery. So you do the math. If the family enslaved at least one person, highly likely it was the male head of household who “owned”the person. Sons would likely inherit the slave even if the slave “belonged” to his mother. To prop up that society, the black codes in slave states often required all able bodied white men to participate in slave patrols to look out for people fleeing bondage or to enforce authority over black people whether enslaved or documented as “free.” (Quotes because often “free” blacks were captured into slavery and if they escaped slavery had few rights and no status in the society) So this long statement is to say that whether the confederate soldier had families that enslaved any people, they were complicit in a society where white men of lower classes were co-opted into supporting the slave system. Those co-opted men more than likely saw themselves as superior to black peoples and probably had no opposition to continue slavery whether they enslaved people or not. So if the confederate soldier did not own a slave at the time if the war, it was probably aspirational to acquire one or more slaves as that was wealth in that society. You don’t have to own capital to be a capitalist. You don’t have to enslaved people to support and defend that system.

[@psikeyhackr6914]

@brianclark4040 If it is so well known then it is really curious that different sources give different answers. And that kind of data is not in high school history books. It is now half-a-century after the Moon landing. What do cars do that they did not do before the Moon landing? Economists did not tell us the annual depreciation back then and they don't now. Planned Obsolescence is just a high technology form of share cropping. Adam Smith wrote "read, write and ACCOUNT" multiple times in Wealth of Nations. He used the word 'education' EIGHTY Times. When have you heard an economist suggest mandatory accounting in the schools?

[@psikeyhackr6914]

@@brianclark4040 Then why do different sources disagree. I have seen 10% to 25%.

[@stephanieezat-panah7750]

can you please post that list of hundreds of books? thank you .

[@PatrickMcCormick-xc1mx]

If we live in a patriarchy why has strength and violence been quickly drained out of society since the industrial revolution? It sure seems that those are the two areas where men hold the biggest advantage and where the standard for thousands of years. The fact that in a period of 100 years most of it disappeared shows a pretty dramatic change in the way they were run.

[@minervarose7664]

Physical violence is just one of the ways in which men systemically subjugate women, but not the only way. Financial control is actually the main mechanism now because modern society no longer runs on brute force but on capitalism ie access to money (wealth). If you look at countries around the world you will see the economic exclusion of women across all levels and across societies (this isn't my opinion btw it's financial data). Anyhow, this isn't to say violence against women no longer exists. Yes i know there is violence against men too but GBV (gender based violence) fars outweighs this both in relative and absolute terms.

[@rursus8354]

I'm not sure "patriarchy" means the rule of men, it means some kind of oligarchy where elder men represents a tribe or a particular subgroup of the entire group. As a transferred meaning it means "ruling techniques used by elder men to dominate over younger men, and women." One may make a partriarchy free, or low-patriarchal system by designing the behaviors for women and men to avoid offensive domination, to promote mutual respect, and this is (according to my experience) valid for women too.

[@Priscilla-Prancercise]

Loving this. Thank you. It seems you created a playlist for this series, then forgot to put the videos in it.

[@MadSc13ntist]

Not a note, because I loved this. Liked and subbed! But it would be awesome if we could at least ad a footnote for when black women got the vote as "when all women attained the vote". 🙏 It wasn't 1920 for all women. 🕯️ My mother was almost an adult when WOC secured their right to vote. 🕯️

[@markaurelius61]

You define patriarchy as a system that privileges men so that they have power at about 8:55. The society we live in is nothing like that. Women are favoured. We redesigned the school system so that it was girl-friendly. There is affirmative action so that women are in fact favoured. The law favours women. Academia favours women. The constant insistence on the idea that we live in a patriarchy seems to be women being blind to the reality of men's lives and the actual nature of our society. It is destructive to be constantly draining the already weak supply of empathy and respect that women have for men. Seeing patriarchy in current society is a hallucination.

[@microbito66]

If you’re a man and can’t thrive in a world designed by men for men.. then I don’t know what to tell you 🤷‍♀️.

[@minervarose7664]

Look at male vs female economic participation rates both globally as well as country-wise that's your answer. Modern society runs on capitalism ie the way in which power flows and access to resources controlled is through money (specifically accumulation of wealth). Economic exclusion of women across all levels and spheres automatically means men still hold the bulk of the wealth and power. Everything else is secondary and determinant to that.

[@ETPangilinan1]

Thanks for clarify things. Its just that likely with words like mansplaining, misogyny and toxic masculinity words being thrown around like a black friday giveaway, i sometimes felt attacked for expressing things others say or did. But because the person I disagree with is a woman and I'm a guy, somehow I'm a misogynist pandering to the patriarchy somehow and I have to change, for society to change. Its like 'no i just disagree the treatment a person gives another, thing they deserve more. It just so happens they are a woman.'

[@kaycynthia4953]

Talk about maternal vs. Paternal society in Micronesia, where both exits in it's communities...

[@classydays43]

Fantastic! The one person who talks about this in a way that doesn't alienate half the population. But I have to ask. You implied a patriarchal society is one where men have a position of power somewhere, suggesting that men in power should not exist anywhere at least with the context that patriarchy is something that should be addressed. I suppose you touched on this when discussing the caste system by arguing that a patriarchy would still be apparent if men who had no positions of power or influence but could exercise it at home in some capacity. Would a society still be a patriarchy if it existed nowhere except, say, in the family home? The part that I'm confused by is the inferrence that men in power is a problem at any and every stage. So say, if a company had women at every executive level except for the CEO, and this is the one company that did this in the whole world, would it be a problem and a sign that this is a patriarchal system at play, or could it be agreed that this male CEO was the better candidate for the role and leave it at that? Why this confuses me is that, whilst ever men account for half the population, there will always be examples of some men existing with some level of authority. This isn't a quip at men's behavioural tendency to dominate and control, but rather that some men will find themselves in political, managerial, or executive positions alongside women where they may be the better candidate, just as there would be women who would be in other companies or governments, and to deny men that purely to rescind the patriarchy is as oppressive as peventing women from doing the same. Does that not mean that the act of removing the patriarchy is not just to uplift women, but to ensure they are the ones in control? If any man, in any position above that of women, is patriarchy, then no man can have his own autonomy or role that could go beyond that of a floor sweeper. What would be the ideal version of society where the patriarchy is no longer a facet of our culture? How would it be described?

[@minervarose7664]

Patriarchy is not an instance of one man being in a position of power over a woman or women. The key term is SYSTEMIC. If we look at a particular social system and we see men exercising power over women IN A CONSISTENT AND CONTINUED MANNER (across different facets of the social system and at varying points in time) then, that could be a sign of patriarchy. For instance we could look at a country. Who have its leaders been over the past 50 years? Political leaders (president, parliament?), business leaders (CEOs of Fortune 500 companies?), others with influential power? Or for another social system we could look at a company? Are there more men than women across different business divisions, at different hierarchical levels? Does the number of women start off high at the bottom levels and then mysteriously disappear towards middle management and finally the board of directors are 90% men? And in my examples am just touching on representation in numbers only and not looking at actual power imbalances. Your company's director board maybe 50:50 male:female but what if the women are not encouraged to speak and if they do, not taken seriously by the men? What if the junior staff are all female headed by a male manager who feels it's "ok" to comment on their bodies? What if the junior staff are males headed by a female manager whom they don't take seriously it's "men's work"? On the flip side, just having a man at the top doesn't mean a system is patriarchal. Alternatively, having a woman at the top doesn't mean it isn't either.

[@classydays43]

@minervarose7664 It took a while, but I appreciate someone taking the time to comment on my long and perceivably deluded question, so thank you for that. I do understand that there are systemic problems at play currently that do indeed prevent women from attaining levels of authority, autonomy, or individual or group agency due to the sociocultual and institutional inference that men should exist in positions above women. I agree that this is a problem and that it should be addressed at every level. And I do believe in some respects that this is being addressed yet glacially. The point I was trying to get to is what the end game would look like. If we look beyond the present current global situation to a point in the hopefully near future where Patriarchy has been addressed, what would that look like? Because if no man existed at any level of authority at any point in any facet of society, as I asked before, we would look at this hypothetical future and say this is not patriarchy and therefore an inherently good thing. Of course a society where men and women can work together is the most beneficial for our overall progress as a species at this point and I am not discrediting the idea that women should be in positions of power but if men have no voice in this future, no capacity to act for themselves, no ability to have agency, and no ability to enact change, then how is that any different to what we have currently? We do have some examples of what this would look like now. A good example is, most recently the field of mental health, being a female dominated sector, discovered it has almost no information on the mental health of men or how to combat this. Indeed, the tools mental health providers have are so limited for men that male patients are more likely to kill themselves after speaking to a mental health professional. There are little records of research on the effects of abuse and trauma on men despite being four times as likely to die by suicide, ten times as likely to be incarcerated, twice as likely to consume illicit drugs, four times as likely to become alcoholics, and three times as likely to end up homeless, it's possible to infer this is quite an egregious oversight in our society to deny an entire field of research to combat a problem we know exists due to the theories and research on Toxic Masculinity. Which means we know there is a problem and no research has been conducted via the female dominated sector designed to treat all its patients fairly and equally, short of observed ratio of research on men vs women in this field in particular. Men could push on and conduct this research themselves, but this has not really happened because there is a lot more research money dedicated to studying the mental health of women. To further that, another study conducted in the UK, some years back, discovered female teachers, which account for 75% of the field, have a bias against male students if they know the gender of the students they are grading. This means at the educational level at least in the UK, boys would typically be marked lower than girls for the same quality of work. Which has an adverse affect on the boys' ability to transfer to higher education and could feasibly be argued to be a systemic problem affecting young men and society at large given that the system they are using to attain an education, and by extension approach fields of research that are lacking with regard to men, is rigged against them due to biases against their gender. Incidentally, the UK has a number of these examples of what the opposite of a patriarchy would look like. A famous story arose from the UK of a woman who glassed (that is, stabbing someone's face and neck with the broken end of a glass bottle, theoretically attempted manslaughter) a man after she had asked him to guess her age, and the female dominated court had ruled she had acted appropriately under the circumstances. The global response was he deserved it. Another more unusual element is the portrayal of men in erotic literature. Erotic literature is an interesting subject because it is often described as romantic fiction and has extensive shelving space in bookstores throughout the world and henceforth easily accessible by anyone at any age without tools to provide what this content is or how to protect it from young audiences, but the peculiar thing I found is men are portrayed in this literature the same as women are portrayed in erotic media aimed at men. Which is to say, an objectified version representing the base sexual pleasure for the individuals consuming this content and nothing more. There is extensive research on the connection between the consumption of erotic media by men and their unhealthy perception of women in the real world that gives rise to Incels and generally dangerous individuals which has led to conditions such as Porn Addiction and the more colloquial concept of "Gooners". If I were to argue against erotic literature I'd be a bit prudish, but my main observation is how erotic literature as an expression of female sexuality is so publicised and openly discussed in prime time media as a healthy and wonderful idea for all women to experience yet the inverse, as previously mentioned, is a discussion of conceren and disgust at the possibility of men expressing or exploring their sexuality through porn. The demonisation of feminine sexuality in patriarchal societies has been a significant argument in feminist movements for a very long time so it's most peculiar to see this demonisation being applied to men, even if it is by and large appropriate under the circumstances. Although we perceive female teachers sexually abusing their male students almost as a good thing, so perhaps there should be research on the correlation between the rises of erotic literature and the rise of female predators just to even the research on heavily sexualised content for both men and women. My point is that I don't think any one group of people should have institutional power over another group, as in so doing seems to generate a similar outcome against the ones who are not in power, and I feel like the context of historical significance undermines this possibility given we perceive the issues affecting men with the lens of a historical, patriarchal context and determine it is not significant.

[@OLDSOLDIER6]

Did your research address that men in the US are subject to conscription, were they may be forced to serve and be killed, and women are not?

[@nadiac6439]

Who created these military draft rules? Also who starts the wars?

[@OLDSOLDIER6]

@nadiac6439 I didn't think so. Men are conscripted to provide the military with the best candidates suitable for winning wars. Men are also primarily who have ended wars.

[@nadiac6439]

@@OLDSOLDIER6 men have also primarily started the wars. The truth is if the US wants to and ever gets desperate enough they will also begin drafting women too. Israel has a mandatory conscription for both men and women. They have due to their size and geographical location.

[@OLDSOLDIER6]

Men have primarily died in said wars. Soviet Union had millions of women in uniform in WWII as it was a necessity. The same applies to Israel. You will not find inane references to patriarchy in either country.

[@nadiac6439]

@@OLDSOLDIER6So men primarily start the wars and primarily die in the wars they created. At least out on the battlefield. Women still tend to be collateral damage in the wars men start without collectively having any power as to whether they want that war or not. Poor men in this case are hurt by the patriarchy because most also did not choose these wars, it was the alpha males at the top of the patriarchy. Whether women were being conscripted into military service in desperate situations, playing roles as comfort women for soldiers, or staying back home and take on the jobs that men left to continue the economy. If captured by enemy forces they are🍇 before being killed, or forced to become sex slaves…all in the wars men start. As for Russia they had a whole women’s suffrage movement before the 1917 revolution, in which under the Soviet Union they actually were granted more equality than women in America at the time. Sexism still prevailed and while the term patriarchy was invented yet doesn’t mean that it didn’t exist. Once the Soviet Union became a secret police state under Stalin most people were afraid to say anything politically so I’m sure feminism wasn’t really on top of the list as compared to how to survive a dictatorship. Once society goes into survival mode people don’t have time or liberty to go out protest oppressive systems but that doesn’t mean the oppressive system doesn’t exist.

[@emmang2010]

I'm sorry but this is still such a nebulous term. especially with the two examples out have on how it may be practiced. What if you are a baby boy raised in neither one of those environments? Does the boy simply inherit some elevated status still? How is that elevated status defined? It's just still so nebulous. I'm 100 percent open to opinion it's just that all the arguments for the existence of the patriarchy don't hold up to those that are used to combat those claims.

[@brandonharley44]

u didnt answer the question, just vaguely said it exists residually in todays society

[@oreocarlton3343]

The most importatn question is: Is patriarchy legitimate?

[@mathapelo4781]

What are the benefits of patriarchy?

[@karolinasoblinskyte1795]

Ting “woman need less food, less meat" definetly come from patriarchy!

[@marcozegikniet9301]

Religion really need to go !

[@EverythingPlus.101]

Found here from Dr Julie Hanks ❤❤❤

[@MmTTT-ki6ux]

Islamic Society

[@ronwagoner8358]

Mormons

[@estherrayos]

This is the problem with religion - men don’t acknowledge that woman is sacred and that’s why anyone with God given gifts is shunned - God not some guy named Jesus gives us our gifts 🎁 there have been other resurrections and other eternal salvations - this is why but God Forbid it happen to a woman lol because they will revert back to their religion it’s a lineage and it’s time women are acknowledged as Holy beings as well not church prostitute to attempt to take their gifts or bring them under control! It is not woman fault most men souls sleep or are not blooming.

[@Ken-pi7qk]

Patriarchy in the so called West equals the power of a tiny amount of men and some women over the majority of men and women. As an ordinary man in the West I don’t have any more power or privilege than the women around me. It’s not women vs men, it’s rich and powerful men vs women and men

[@vanessa_cherie]

How do you define power and privilege? I’m scared to walk alone at night due to potential harm, I’ve been warned since a child to watch where I go, what I wear as to not “entice” violence from men. I was taught to submit to men once I get married, although women overwhelmingly manage the household. A woman up the street from my house was murdered by her husband because she wanted to divorce. Have you equally had to worry about these things?

[@minervarose7664]

​@@vanessa_cheriei love your answer sister ❤️

[@EricKolotyluk]

As an old white man, that is a very good academic lesson on Patriarchy. I look forward to more of your lessons...

[@pmberkeley]

Airtight definition of patriarchy! Thanks for what you are doing.

[@dnick1981]

Anything that takes ten minutes to explain probably isn’t real

[@mpress469]

Patriarchy is a natural extension of a matriarchy. One can not exist without the other as they follow one another throughout the course of all eternity. Spiritually speaking (gender and race aside), matriarchy can begin with an understanding of the cyclical nature of reality (God). Represented by the snake in many creation myths, the living cycle has a trinity of a beginning (head), a middle and end (tail). As above so below, the sexes were created in the image of God's cyclical nature where Mother is the head and opening to all beginnings and Father holds the tail to all endings (through which the sowing of seeds allow for the next great matriarchal rebirth).The joining of the two (symbolized by the Ouroborus or the marriage ring) is the sacred union needed in assuring the creation and continuation of new life cycles. To speak of the present day God as "Our Father" is simply an admission to our collective positioning within the bigger cycle. As all mothers have direct experience with the creator quality of birthing, so is the direct experience of rebirthing the divinity within (baptism) belong to that which is spiritually matriarchal. (John 3, verse 3-8). Sekhmet statues (ancient Egyptian) carry most of their weight in symbolic memory of what was a mother culture dedicated to the direct experience of baptism. As the leg shaped hairlocks extend from maternal breasts to the womb of rebirth, the lioness's head proportions are such that they highlight the bust of a second animal figure. The Lioness's ears as eyes and eyes as nose (nostrils) brings to life the figure of a reptile. 'Neath the halo headress of the solar egg, the lioness's egg fertilization process being internal (Set) and the reptile's egg fertilization process being external (Setting), such being key components to the safety of entering the trans-egoic or "born again" state. The life threatening fear associated with the predatory nature of a lion and/or crocodile encounter are reflective of the intense ego death experiences associated with the transpersonal awakening process. In spiritually matriarchal times, illumination could be seen as wearing the false beard (ancient Egyptian funerary "ego" death mask) as the high state of cyclical self knowing; high awareness of both our upper matriarchal half and our lower (later) patriarchal half (compared with a mini lower body replica, an "as above so below" tail end beard extension); in full recognition of her civilizational Underworld; her inevitable cyclical destiny. The male pharaoh wears his beard tapered in reverse, indicating a pointing upwards towards the patriarchal head, divine representative of God's tail end cycle. Mary's anointing and wiping of Jesus's feet with her hair can then be seen as "Head to tail" (toe) imagery as she descends her matriarchal head to his patriarchal feet, thus reenacting the high understanding of the divine cyclical process. (John 12, verse 3) To carry the Ankh (now the female symbol ♀️) was perhaps to symbolically carry that upper and lower understanding. As the upper matriarchal womb symbolised the fertile birthing of civilization, below, the now Christian cross is carried to place emphasis on the lower (later) "End Times" Father principle of the great cycle. Lord Ganesha, the elephant headed Hindu diety, displays a cyclical head to trunk symbolism and points to the Mother head of his matriarchal elephant society. Ganesha (like the elephant) wears God's cyclical nature on his face. A whole temple was dedicated to Hathor (ancient Egyptian diety), who is the matriarchal "Uterus" personified. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGHQYa2AiKp5gZI "See all women as mothers, serve them as your mother. when you see the entire world as the mother, the ego falls away. See everything as Mother and you will know God." - Neem Karoli Baba "My son, keep thy father's commandment and forsake not the law of thy mother" - Proverbs 6 : 20

[@johnkross7227]

You didn't answer the question of your title. This video was more "patriarchy 101" than how does it effect us today.

[@mrrich9614]

It seems like this says that the patriarchy is men controlling women at home? Am I missing something?

[@idstayaway9992]

That is not what it means...

[@mrrich9614]

@@idstayaway9992 My logic for this is as follows. There is a small number of very powerful people, most of them men. These people control a lot. However the average man has very little worth. And often the only thing he has any control over is "his" household.

[@moreece1713]

Home ,at work , hospitals etc

[@mrrich9614]

@moreece1713 did you see my other reply? Also 80% of Healthcare workers are female.

[@ka1pana]

Thank you for highlighting the understanding of patriarchy .,Taliban vs kind grandpa ! It just becomes a defensive monologue … because they apply their grandpa in all their examples … or worse find ways to justify their grandpa way of life because they love him 😂😂

[@kismet512]

Very hard to call western society a "patriarchy" given the way we treat fathers . Separated fathers are the most discriminated against people in society.

[@StrudelNoodle]

In 1995 I was 24/5 years old and wanted my tubes tied. I was denied because I needed my husbands permission and have one more child. 😑😐

[@deusvult980]

they made the right choice, youre crippling yourself for life

[@minervarose7664]

​@@deusvult980 what???

[@michaelb5330]

You have omitted that the largest empire in human history was a matriarchy queen Victoria’s rule ! She ruled over the largest empire as a women and all of our modern. Social changes come from this time she brutally expanded the British empire ! As a single women queen! And yes she openly oppressed women !

[@michaelb5330]

During Queen Victorias rule she commanded the brutal oppression of the "suffrage" movement She openly opposed to it! Yet she was the most powerful women in history "We women are not made for governing." During the following rule of king Edward the break up of the British empire began and women got the vote! Yes it's men that empowered the feminist movement! Isn’t it convenient that the most powerful women in our history says women are not suitable to lead yet women omit this that women know another women’s motivation drive weakness better than men ?

[@ebriceno]

Had Queen Victoria had a brother (older or younger than her) he would have been king and she wouldn't have been a queen. The monarchical system she was part of was biased toward men. That’s the definition of patriarchy. It’s not about whether men or women are good or bad, or how individual men or women behave (monarchs or not), but about whether the system and culture is biased toward putting men in power.

[@michaelb5330]

@@ebriceno During Queen Victorias rule she commanded the brutal oppression of the "suffrage" movement She openly opposed to it! Yet she was the most powerful women in history "We women are not made for governing." During the following rule of king Edward the break up of the British empire began and women got the vote! Yes it's men that empowered the feminist movement!

[@michaelb5330]

@@ebriceno And further more “what if’s” are irrelevant the history is a fact the fact is when a women was the most powerful leader over the largest empire She knew women’s nature and that’s why she was opposed to the things she was opposed to ! “Patriarchy” in the way it’s being portrayed is all modern slant on history in a way that is not helpful to uniting us Most men helped women to succeed and still do women have way more privilege than men ! You would see this is you have ever done blue collar work ? Instead I’ll bet your a privileged with person with a degree? Or similar! Your a 1% (the type that’s the patriarchal problem) The educated wealthy ruling class is what the “patriarchy” actually is ! And modern feminists eat to be that !

[@ebriceno]

@@michaelb5330 I appreciate the dialogue and the critical thinking. I don't think any of what you mention is inconsistent with anything said in the video. Both men and women are psychologically affected by patriarchy, which can lead women to oppress women. It doesn't make the system not a patriarchy. If you live in a world that assumes women are inferior or are weak, even women can come to believe they and other women are inferior or weak. This unconscious bias against your own group (as studies show) happens with regards to gender, race, age, because of the associations we learn from movies, TV, segregation, etc.... So, yes, Queen Victoria oppressed women and King Edward abdicated some of his power, but that doesn't mean that they didn't leave in a patriarchal world.

[@tikaltoki4561]

I have never seen patriarchy in a Western country. Period. The only place I can honestly say I have seen patriarchal views and actions was in sub Saharan Africa.

[@feelinproudtobwyt-qz8gu]

We got to the top because we all realized in every civilization that no person should be on top if they are as unaccountable, irrational, narcissistic, vengeful, malicious, vindictive, non critical thinking, emotion based, evil, as 99% of the other side always has been. You can't have as good of a civilization as we do now if someone with those negative characteristics are in charge Men saw this in you know who and said, no. We are not letting those types of people in charge. It would be awful. Truly

[@MM-xm7xn]

You need Jesus. He will heal your heart

[@TheSimoné88]

I seriously feel extremely sorry for you.

[@i76sin2]

Every time something bad pops off who is expected to go and die 😂

[@awolf81]

4:19 This seems like a warped way to look at the world. Who do you call when you need protection? The police, 90ish percent of which are men. Is that the “patriarchy” at work or the biological fact that men are physically stronger than women? 7:39 If your husband to be requires that you be obedient…DON’T MARRY HIM. Duh 🙄 7:55 “Almost every sector in the secular world still has residual patriarchy left over from thousands of years of this ideology”. Then she gives zero examples.

[@Xerilai]

Judging by the fact you make a statement about the police that is encompassed by her explanation, I have to ask, can't you think for yourself ? Maybe do some research into her statement. It's an undeniable fact to people who aren't just looking to make critical comments. All the content of the video has gone wayyy over your head.

[@awolf81]

@ Why don’t you educate me. I love to learn.

[@charlesodonnell2993]

After 67 years of male life I can truthfully state that in quantity and pernicious quality I have been abused by far more women than by men.

[@Xerilai]

And I've been abused by men only! Congrats. Look at the stats for all kinds of abuse. Men completely dominate crime stats.

[@brendanh8193]

When I first encountered the concept of "The Patriarchy" it was in a sociology class during a graduate diploma of teaching. In those readings (and there was quite a few) I found this model of society to be problematic, and so was hoping that some here (possibly including the developer of the video, herself) would help show why these concerns can be allayed, if they can be. Fundamentally, I found that the papers that referred to "The Patriarchy" or "The Hegemony" largely never looked at alternative explanations, but rather maintained a confirmatory bias about them. Even worse, some of these papers carried similar traits to several other models that had a totalising lens, models that also put a primary emphasis on power, oppression and a common ubiquitous bogeyman. These similarities were to such perspectives as Nazism (bogeyman = Jews etc), Marxism (bogeyman = bourgeoisie, 1%), and many conspiracy theories (eg bogeyman = deep state). It was the conspiracy theories that I thought fitted closest, as if it is an intellectually acceptable conspiracy theory. In both of these world views, their bogeyman are less a concrete category of people (although a group of people, men, are strongly implied) than a (often stereotyped) concept of how those people-entities hold and use power against an oppressed group, for in a similar vein much gets attributed to the Deep State, The Patriarchy or The Hegemony without any real evidence. At their basis is belief, and a tendency interpret everything as an outworking of the effect of the bogeyman. So I want to try to push back on a couple of statements made here, in part because this has been one of the clearest explanations I've heard about the concept, however I still feel that they are flawed with the same issues. Firstly, she said "I noticed that all over the world, in almost every era of time, men were on the top of social hierarchies." Does that mean you didn't research the Bribri people of Panama? Or the Mosou of China? Or the Khasi of India, or the Umoja of Kenya, or several Pacific Island cultures? These are all matriarchal societies, and there are many more I could name. More than half the Australian Aboriginal nations are matriarchal. So, my question is, why look so narrowly? Why presume that all nations and cultures are patriarchal? Now knowing that a society can be either patriarchal or matriarchal changes the perspective. Much of the analysis in the video is about status and power, and this can equally be applied to matriarchal societies. There are some different qualities to such societies, however the broad strokes of power described here are reversible as no society is perfectly egalitarian when it comes to gender. "The way that it's practiced means that when a baby is born, and someone says it's a boy, that baby inherits elevated status in relation to to women, that will persist throughout their life." That is true in patriarchal societies by definition of patriarchy, and as said earlier, of matriarchal societies too, in reverse. However, in most societies, far more influence depends upon the class status that is also typically inherited. So, as a model for society, inherited gender status is only really significant when class shrinks in significance. Even then it comes behind other elements that enable and transact power, such as educational opportunities, capacities to accumulate knowledge, some character traits, parental wealth and social capital. "These women (spunky grandmas) do have a lot of power, but they don't have it because they are women, they have it in spite of the fact that they are women." Or, and more likely from this anecdote, gender is largely irrelevant to what makes and weilds power. As mentioned earlier, power is attributable to more significant and influential factors than gender status. This statement also seems to suggests that the ideal state is to have power attributed to women because they were women. If that were the case, then the goal of this video isn't equality, but matriarchy. "Remember, patriarchy simply means a system, a society or government, that privileges men so that they have power and it excludes everyone else. " Now that is a high bar. Britain had a queen (several, in fact) and several female prime ministers, so they aren't a patriarchal society by that definition. USA has several judges that are female, so ditto. France had a female leader of opposition, so them too. As for Pakistan... I suspect that you don't actually believe that consequence of your statement, so (genuine question here) why say it? Because statements like that are ripe to lead into false equivalents. Is that what was being set up in the mind of the audience? "And, they themselves (men) are harmed by patriarchal structures." This statement needs some proof. What constitutes a patriarchal structure? Are all structures set up by a patriarchal society harmful? What about the rule of law? Or egalitarian ideals? Or the post office? These (last three questions) are all structures that were set up in a patriarchal society. How are they harmful? To the men? To the majority of men? And, what structures of matriarchal societies are harmful? All these questions need to be answered genuinely, and with evidence, otherwise this statement is best interpreted as an expression of (and great example of) a totalising or unexamined viewpoint or belief. "These same men who operate in a race or caste based hierarchy out in the world can come home and find themselves in a gender hierarchy that gives them authority and privilege in relation to women of their same caste." Note that this statement says "can". This means that in a pluralistic society, such as western multicultural communities, the same statement can be switched to read "... can come home and find themselves in a gender hierarchy that puts them under the authority and privilege of women of their same caste." There is no reference to the prevalence in this statement. And deliberately so, because any honest study on prevalence will find a breadth of home power balances, including abuses from both genders, and may well find trends in the opposite direction to the narrative described here. We need a far better understanding of how household authority actually is exercised before her claim has any real merit. We need a better understanding of why such a power imbalance should be a problem. At the extremes of power abuse there can be harm, sure, but the questions that first need to be settled are about the appropriate use of power, the need for its use, the responsibilities that come with its use, and the preparation and development of household members to use power appropriately and in ways that don't harm self or others. Different people weild different sorts of power at different times, so can a broad stroke perspectives of power really create valid insights of the granularity of households? Possibly yes, but we have to take them with real care so as not to over fit. Otherwise we risk misdiagnosing whatever problem we believe we are solving, and therefore apply inappropriate solutions.

[@breakingdownpatriarchy]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts here. Please continue to watch and engage with the content here.

[@rehanafzal8654]

This is a lot more nuanced than the average online patriarchy commentary. I do have one question though. Why do you juxtapose the oppression of the two sexes? You can make a solid argument that both genders experience oppression, but the argument that women are objectively more oppressed really was not convincing here. If the goal is to liberate humanity as a whole from its own oppression, then arguing about what sex is more oppressed seems very counterproductive.

[@breakingdownpatriarchy]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. While both sexes experience the hardships of humanity and both can experience oppression caused by the social hierarchies at play in society, the male sex as a whole is not subjugated based on their sex the way women are. As the video explains, in a patriarchal hierarchy women are left out of positions of power because of the fact that they are women, whereas some men are left out (for a variety of other reasons) in spite of the fact that they are men.

[@rehanafzal8654]

@@breakingdownpatriarchy Thank you for your response. Again, I'd push back here. It isn't clear to me that we see more men than women in "positions of power" simply because they are men. Of course, gender discrimination happens, and that certainly isn't good. But does it happen so often that you can characterize all of western society as fundamentally patriarchal by nature? I don't think so. In the grand scheme of things, it is fundamentally meritocratic. Next, I'd like to address a point you made up above. You assert that we live in a patriarchy because women are oppressed simply because of their sex, whereas this does not happen to men. Looking at the statistics, though, this does not seem to be the case. I'd imagine you've heard the numbers when it comes to suicide rates, incarceration, working more dangerous jobs, etc, all areas where men are disadvantaged. All of these have to do in some sense with gender, whether it's because of a societal expectation, behavioral proclivity, or necessity. Looking forward to your reply, and again thank you for engaging in constructive discourse.

[@awolf81]

@@rehanafzal8654 You did too much mansplaining.😆 I think this all boils down to one fact. Being the only gender capable of bearing children is a significant disadvantage when your only definition of success is wealth and power.

[@minervarose7664]

​@@rehanafzal8654look at both the global and country-wise disparities on 1. Gender based violence male vs female 2. Economic participation rates male vs female

[@rssvss]

😅😅

[@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894]

LONG LIVE PATRIARCHY. CATS GREAT COMPANY

[@Lorenzo_Wyche_Restaurants]

Here's a scenario in a patriarchy.. 4 women are standing in the room with a man. Someone comes in the room with a gun harm the room? Who is expected to deal with that issue and risk their lives?

[@idstayaway9992]

Yep

[@nadiac6439]

Who’s more likely to come into the room with a gun wanting to commit violence in the first place ?

[@Fandar]

@@nadiac6439 exactly

[@mildmayheadless5217]

​@@nadiac6439 A man is more likely, but that doesn't mean that patriarchy is to blame or is even involved. A man is best suited to deal with an intruding gunman but that's not also down to patriarchy - it's just the more logical choice. A man is more suited to take on another man. Imagine the same situation but instead of a gunman, a baby is thrown into the room. One of the ladies is best suited to take care of the baby by physiological and mental make up. Once again, nothing to do with power structures, just good logical choice.

[@nadiac6439]

@@mildmayheadless5217 thanks for confirming that it would happen regardless of a patriarchy. Because the original comment we are replying to is inferring that men are only expected to deal with a gunman to protect women in a room under a patriarchy. It would seem like biology that the gunman is more likely to be male because males are naturally aggressive. And it also seems like biology that other men are more likely to going to fight a gunman (who is threatening their lives) head on because they are on average physically stronger. And society would expect it due to physical advantages males have.

[@SystemsMedicine]

Well, the main problem I perceive is the abominable use of the word “unearned” in this video. Men have shed oceans of blood for millennia to evolve developed societies to their modern forms, especially including rights for women, and in the West, other ‘minorities’; and of course men are still doing so, both in war and in every day societal dangers. [To not be aware of this, is to know nothing of history or present day societies.]

[@soupmachine5831]

When I think of a patriarch, I think of a king

[@LoisSings]

If someone was teaching a feminism bookclub/course, what book would be best? I was thinking Gerda Lerner Creation of Patriarchy? But I haven’t read as many as you have. Please let me know!

[@treacherousjslither6920]

So patriarchal society has somehow given me power over women? That's ridiculous. I have no power over anyone lol

[@Idonthavefuckinguser]

yeah it's Simply bc u don't live in a patriarchal society lol

[@sssnipermonkey5566]

Now talk about the modern 2024 Matriarchy and Misandry…..

[@2livenoob]

In the Barbie movie, Ken proved the patriarchy doesn't exist when he couldn't get any position of power simply because he was a man, but in Barbie world, all of the positions of power were held by women simply because they were female. It was hilarious.

[@KaiDecadence]

Yet in Barbieland, even though the Kens did not hold any political power, they were not mistreated in egregious ways. The Barbies did not insult, belittle, or assault them. At most they were just indifferent.