How Easy is an EV Road Trip?

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[@LillyP-xs5qe]

I would like to think they shared a bed during the overnight stays and fell asleep while talking about heat pumps and home appliances

[@hydropumper228]

😮

[@Ag89q43G0HyA]

heat pumping probably...

[@noahstockwell1408]

That's my Polestar at 6:42! We remember seeing the 5 this last weekend, had no idea two of my favorite creators were in it. Glad you guys stopped by Lafayette - Boiler Up!

[@agingwheels]

That's awesome!

[@eggbirdtherooster]

@@agingwheels Hey Robert.. Are you sort of agreeing that it’s all in theory nice and stuff but I heard when there’s a car next to you fast charging, your car charge way slower.. Let alone in the near future that so-called everybody’s driving electric…. 😄 Electric cars are NOT the future and the way forward imo. More like a Silicon Valley gimmick and more about shifting money. And how the hell are we gonna supply them all with electricity in the near future?? Windmills and solar fields?! 🤔 And after 10+ years its a total loss cause of the battery’s had its best time. Take Hoovies Tesla for example…And why does nobody mention the amount of dirty toxic mines in 3rd world country’s where all this lithium is mined with heavy on fossil fueled machinery, and in many cases involving childlabour and exploitation of the local people..?! And dont forget the producing and shipping of those battery’s with tons of Co2 emission! 🤨 All that so we in the west are so called; “green, durable, progressive, CO2 neutral, inclusive, diverse, jobcreating” or what ever totally raped frame and empty worded socialist utopian dream slogan they shove it in theys days… 🤨

[@AaronOfMpls]

@@eggbirdtherooster See my response in another thread.

[@jonc4403]

@@eggbirdtherooster Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

@@eggbirdtherooster Hah! I see you there! Lurking in the comments section waiting to say something profoundly stupid at just the right time.

[@vincechurchill3079]

As a member of the Electrify America team (and the guy that built the IN and Corvette Museum sites), couldn't be happier this trip went as well as it did for you guys. Keep up the great content

[@glenngore6609]

How about Electrify America putting some DC fast chargers in western Kansas, eastern Colorado, and the Texas panhandle, south of I-70 and north of I-40, east of I-25 and west of I-35? This part of the country is a giant no-go area for EV’s at the present time.

[@stephan24297]

To add on, the whole state of Vermont has no chargers

[@christinecharbonneau4448]

I did a road trip in my Audi e-Tron from Seattle, through Eastern Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Nevada, Arizona to visit a friend in Tucson, then back through Nevada, California, Oregon and Washington to get back home. Almost all charges on Electrify America. It was a blast and went very well. So pleased that this is possible now.

[@devinlinehan7048]

You missed the chance to comment on the giant sink hole next to the charger at the corvette museum. It was almost video shot. Legend has it that it opened so quickly that it swallowed several entire corvettes.

[@nc3826]

"The whole state of Vermont has no chargers".... How much do you want to bet?

[@shi5369]

its so nice to see a dad and his son out on the road.

[@ubertalldude]

The Aging Wheels / Technology Connections lore gets even deeper. I love both of your channels and love the crossovers.

[@dkjoses12]

These guys are amazing together

[@jfellow14]

They're literally driving a crossover....

[@ShinyPeeko]

Technology Wheels or Aging Connections?

[@AiOinc1]

Couldn't disagree more but different people like different things I suppose

[@fastinradfordable]

Like mokoosh and fastinradford On vwvortex ;p

[@maybach6536]

This is absolutely the collaboration we needed, even though we may not have known it. Thank you to both of these amazing channels for your awesome content!

[@Sithhy]

Not the first time they have done it

[@maybach6536]

@@Sithhy oh I know i just wasn’t expecting it AGAIN. That’s all.

[@tarstarkusz]

No it's silly. This ridiculous car is a Hyundai and starts at 50k Dollars. For a HYUNDAI! This fast charging is bad for it.

[@madjedi2235]

@@tarstarkusz with a 700v battery it’s probably not so bad. On top of that, they’re willing to warranty it for 8years/ 100k miles so they must be fairly confident.

[@tarstarkusz]

@@madjedi2235 Read the fine print. I guarantee you there are exceptions out the wazoo with one of them being the number of rapid charges.

[@xWood4000]

Try a road trip in the winter too, Alec talks a lot about the coldness in his videos in general. Different EVs seem to have some variance in how happy they are in winter

[@ThatSoddingGamer]

Yeah, I'm in Canada myself, and whilst a car purchase (if I ever make one in my life, I hate driving) is some years off, knowing how EVs perform in cold, snowy conditions is relevant to my situation.

[@jsonlee01]

Out of Spec Motoring channel has a video of a 1000 mile road trip from Chicago to Dallas in the Kia EV6 where the weather was really cold. And the route they took was not all on the major highways so they did have issues with sketchy chargers.

[@heribertosarmiento1265]

@@ThatSoddingGamer you should check then Bjørn Nyland his in a super cold country Norway and he had driven tons of EV’s .

[@maximebasket3566]

I always was wondering how it was possible, in my hometown temperature can reach -40 at winter But I always saw some brave guys diving their nissan leafs and other Japanese evs

[@davidnoyes3373]

I live in canada and while you do lose efficiency you still get 200 plus miles.

[@lyinarbaeldeth2456]

Nice to see EVs becoming increasingly practical, between battery tech and growth of charging infrastructure. Now if only the price would drop to a range I can afford...

[@kliajesal4592]

Tesla is planning a *relatively* inexpensive model that should only be about $20k. Here's hoping other manufacturers get on board with that level of competition.

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

@@kliajesal4592 I think the real issue isn't the first hand price. But the price of replacing the battery to someone buying a 20 year old car for a thousand dollars. While a gas car if well maintained can have the engine and transmission last a lifetime, a battery will not, and for someone in the market for a thousand dollar used car, getting a $20,000 or even a $10,000 repair bill to replace the battery is not something that they can deal with. This will cause way more waste as cars that other then the battery mechanically are sound ending up in the junk yard. For the record, because I've customers in that income bracket, me telling them they need a $2000 engine in their gas car is often enough to see them junk the car rather then fix it. Also Tesla's idea of making the battery into the chassis is a bad idea, because it basically means that when the battery dies, you need to buy a new car.

[@Cemi_Mhikku]

@@SilverStarHeggisist The integrated battery is Apple/Deere levels of anti-consumerism.

[@alexanderrobins7497]

They can be affordable, but it depends on what kind if car and condition you are okay with. I am browsing nearby salvage lots for EVs that should be too tough to repair.

[@Cemi_Mhikku]

@@alexanderrobins7497 The main issue is like with any used car, if you don't have the skills to do the work yourself the maintenance needed is a bar to them being actually as affordable as they seem much of the time. That's not so much a fault of the vehicles themselves as it is how certain generations have eschewed learning such things until they were too old to do it, and then whine at younger generations about 'not doing things ourselves' as though they weren't worse.

[@100PercentJake]

Got the opportunity to see one of these in person and, man, what a handsome vehicle. Glad to hear it stands up to some cross-country travel!

[@mmavcanuck]

How does it compare to something like say, a supercharger Buick?

[@Hotlog69]

It really is! Now that I see it has a matte finish. The body looks like it's made out of stainless steel!

[@cameronjenkins6748]

There's something about the shape of that car combined with the wheels that reminds me very much of the Group B Lancia Delta S4. I like it.

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

Now that you brought that up, I can't unsee it

[@thebetatester800]

I was thinking Golf MkII but I see what you're saying!

[@Surestick88]

Not the Delta S4, no, but the Delta Integrale, yes.

[@bwofficial1776]

The Ioniq 5 is bigger than it looks. It's nearly the size of a Rav4. Hyundai did a fantastic job of scaling up the 80s hatchback design and keeping the proportions.

[@stanwbaker]

Both Lancia Delta and Hyundai Pony were designed by Giugiaro. Ionic 5 was designed with a nod to the Pony.

[@JohnDoe-bd5sz]

92 dollars for 328 KWh of electricity. The same amount of electricity from fast charger stations in my country would have been $229 with the current prices, and they have warned that the prices might go up for some reason. I love my EV, but if all i did was charge at public chargers, it would be more expensive per kilometer, than a new diesel

[@Araararauna7]

yep

[@guyjclark]

Hey, Robert! Because of you (ok, and Alec) I just purchased my first new car in fifty years of driving! My 2015 (used) Chevy SparkEV was not capable of the driving range I now need, so I planned on a used Bolt EV. Of course, the prices have gone through the roof for the older EVs, making a used Bolt less attractive. Then I saw this video, and when you got to the 800V battery, I knew that faster charging was going to be part of that. I watched this video and Alec's video, and a couple of dozen other videos on the Ioniq-5, and I was sold. Wasn't easy finding a Limited AWD that wasn't grossly marked up in price by the dealer, but I finally stumbled upon one at a dealer with "only" $5K markup, and I jumped on it. I've had it for three weeks, and so far, it's great! Thanx for this video and all of you other ones, too. I really enjoy your style (and Alec's too, for that matter). Guy

[@__Andrew_]

well you know where the chevy mueum is now!

[@jochenstacker7448]

This is my absolutely favourite collab of any time and any medium, I could watch you two guys all day, no matter the content, because both your channels are so very, very good. You two are my little oasis of sanity in a world that's gone batshit crazy.

[@nunocspinto]

Amazing content. Here in Europe, charging is a little bit on the expensive side, but the network is kinda strong around main cities and roads. With charging times like that, EV road trips will become a blast when the network become more solid!

[@ravenouself4181]

Depends on which parts of Europe through, Western Europe is pretty good - the rest is not. I am talking about the charging infrastructure.

[@bandvitromania9642]

@@ravenouself4181 yup we need more and more EV infrastructure in Eastern Europe

[@Huntracony]

Well, here in Europe gasoline is still a little bit on the expensive side too :D

[@stvlu7333]

Once the government starts to tax charging stations and get very greedy about it will be the same thing as if it was a gas-powered car.

[@karelsvoboda3344]

@@bandvitromania9642 Who will pay for the roads, that are damaged by very heavey EVs? Will we make electricity from Russian gas? Who will make new tyres that are damaged on EVs faster?

[@mdmattingly1]

I just finished a 1500 mile road trip in the EV6, the sister vehicle to the Ioniq 5. No issues anywhere. I really enjoyed it.

[@sr.degeorge422]

How many stops did you make in that 1500?

[@mdmattingly1]

@@sr.degeorge422 I don't remember the quantity. I spent less than 4 hours total at chargers and almost no time waiting for the charge. Just normal pitstop stuff, like getting something to eat.

[@garydevones3677]

How long it took a month

[@pootispiker2866]

​@@garydevones3677Makes no sense

[@garydevones3677]

@@mdmattingly1 yea right

[@smizles]

8:52 I like how the editing was so careful to blur Alec's license plate, then completely gave up (even for still tripod shots) for the entire rest of the video...

[@Araararauna7]

lmao

[@ravik694]

I can confirm that charging for me in the US is basically a non-issue. I've had a Model 3 since 2018, I've put over 100,000 km on it, and I've traveled between Illinois, Florida, Arizona, and California, more than once. The Tesla superchargers are the gold standard, user experience wise, and I'm glad to see that other branded stations are continuing to grow and improve. Interoperability between the different Tesla/non-Tesla stations are what I'm really hoping for in the near future!

[@_zigger_]

high on that copium eh?

[@mussdem]

It's nice to see other manufacturers finally making EVs after Tesla showed them that people want them. Hopefully there will be more sedan options in the model 3 price range in NA soon. Right now the model 3 is all there is in that segment. Well all there is worth getting compared to the SUV selection.

[@austin3171]

The biggest issue I have with going full electric too soon is charging at home. I live in a townhouse development, and we don't have anywhere to install a 240v charger, and we are not allowed to have extension cords running from the house to any vehicles or we'll get fined by the HOA (or the neighborhood kids unplug and generally fuck with your shit, which is arguably worse). I know we can charge elsewhere, but a big push with EVs is "charge at home!" and... many people just can't. I *want* this tech to succeed, but damn it's hard for a lot of peeps to grab on to.

[@mussdem]

@@austin3171 Condos would be worse, it's a bitch to own an EV in the city. I wish NA countries would start mandating that EV charging infrastructure should be run to all the parking spots for a condo. Or have more street charging stations.

[@cybertrk]

@@austin3171 you need to attend the meetings and ask how they plan to solve this problem since people ARE moving to electric cars.

[@wyattarich]

I honestly was so taken aback by this collab, but I'm here for it and I love it. MORE PLEASE!!

[@nnnomenclature]

Two of my favorite KZbin channels doing an excellent and interesting collab! You both have such a calm but goofy but smart energy and it just works

[@IndyJay53]

I have made almost this exact trip multiple times, so it was nice that I could imagine the distances you were covering. Also great to know I can still do it when I get an EV!

[@TomLentz]

What an epic team up you guys make! Best EV road trip is to review the recent "checkins" on ABRP to verify the charger you will need works.

[@RichardLangis]

I've been looking at the Ioniq 5, and this gladdens me greatly. Subscribed to you both and enjoy every second of content.

[@julianruggiero9701]

This is absolutely awesome to see. I had a 2013 Nissan Leaf with a measly 24 kWh battery, and supposed 50 kW DC fast charging, that was more like 38 kW charging in reality. It was a REALLY hard car to do anything with outside of just driving to work and back, then plugging it in overnight. It left quite a sour taste in my mouth regarding EVs. I'm slowly realizing that was just the price I paid for being a very early adopter, and now, 10 years later, EVs and the insane 350 kWh charging infrastructure are getting to the point where I might actually think about trying an EV again. I'll probably wait for the solid state battery EVs to hit the market in the second half of this decade, but seeing your road trip experience today brings me a lot of hope for the future. Thank you guys!

[@TheTheRay]

Gas prices are only going to rise in the future. EVs are becoming more attractive by the year.

[@nc3826]

NIO Announces 150 kWh Solid-State Batteries.... Plus battery swapping.... just need them to start selling them in the USA

[@JakobKsGarage]

Thumbnail looked like one of my usual EV channel subscriptions, but then it was a collaboration between two of my favourite youtubers! What a nice surprise.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

You guys have fun together, and it shows. Great road trip episode!

[@jay5729]

We've roadtripped our Ioniq 5 a couple of times now, and it has been super simple on the electrify America 350 stations.

[@thomaspyrek9154]

Fun fact: Most Corvette owners don't drive their Corvettes to the NCM, so chargers there make sense. I'm a lifetime member of the Corvette museum and have a hand me down c4. Last year I went down from for the annual bash and thought that it was obvious that we had to drive the TrashC4n't. Most Corvettes were c7 or newer. Nearly everyone was shocked that I drove, not towed, a car from the 80s from NY to KY.

[@williamreynolds6132]

Love both of your channels, glad to see you together again. I’ve been shopping for the ioniq 5 or ev6 for a while but the dealerships in my area(Denver) are overcharging by about $7,000 over msrp right now and that’s just insane.

[@eesta27]

If you're willing to pay ~$1200-$1500 for shipping, try looking at dealers closer to the east coast. I've found that the southwest and midwest have low inventory and high markups, but the selection is better in areas like New York, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. I got several offers at MSRP, no add-ons required, and only ~$500-$700 dealer fees. I personally got one that way. You might need to wait a few weeks, but it's much better than the 6-8 month waitlist.

[@smashoklw]

Great video from two of my favorite youtubers. I own a Chevy Bolt EV and Spark EV and they work for me. Do I lust for the Ioniq's charging speed? You better believe it. The surprise to me was that you had no problems with EA chargers, hopefully they are getting their act together. Electric cars are the future, and the future is getting better every year.

[@zachnilsson4682]

Having recently driven from Colorado to Boston in my Polestar 2 I can confirm that my trip was pretty similar except with slower charging

[@oldskooljules]

Extremely pleasing to see you two hanging out :) More please!

[@jimcabezola3051]

This is a superb collab! The synergy is perfect. I even liked your EcoFlow commercial, for heaven’s sake. You two rock!

[@JustAnotherHo]

I took one on a test drive for about 30 miles, it was shockingly good. Lane keeping worked fairly well as well as the start stop cruise control.

[@rpavlik1]

I'm just liking in advance, since I know it's gonna be good. Based on the experience of the Figaro videos, I know you two have a weird separated-at-birth vibe, and I'm totally here for it. Quite pleased to see this road trip was actually quite possible. Guess I'll have to figure out DC fast charging when I eventually EV swap my Saturn.

[@LichaelMewis]

I have this same car in Atlas White and can cooborate this. It's an amazing car. No more brake changes, oil changes, transmission maintenance, gas stations, etc. Also the charging speed is awesome. I was able to hit 242KW on a session peak before.

[@LichaelMewis]

@@a1c3c3u yes but if you drive in high regen mode or what they call iPedal very rarely ever use the brakes. The regen of the motor causes sufficient stopping power in 95% of the driving scenarios.

[@tenchuu007]

I found both of y'all's channels independently but it's so delightful to see the two of you having fun together in the same adventures.

[@the2323guy]

A DankPods meet up would also be awesome!

[@joshuagies4900]

So excited seeing the two of you together! Love the collab!

[@bwofficial1776]

Robert also fixed Alec's Nissan Figaro when he got it a few years ago.

[@ElectricNed]

Nice! I did most of the same route in my Bolt last year, going from Indianapolis (area) to Orlando (area) between Christmas and New Year's. EA had free charging for the holidays and it was a very inexpensive trip! The Bolt was obviously much slower, but it did work okay.

[@johnadkins2063]

Thank you for this. I’ve been very curious about the practicality of an ev on a long trip. You answered those questions for me.

[@lilycoffee112]

Wonderful video! Despite me hoping to get a used Chevy Bolt for my main car, this was still a hugely informative video!

[@KlueBat]

Great video guys! I have my own EV coming soon, so this kinda thing is pretty reassuring. Also, I need to order one of those J1772 shirts to wear on delivery day :D

[@accountnumber90]

I can't say enough about how much I love the way this thing looks.

[@KonigSchutze]

I freaking love you both for doing this. Thanks for the PSA!!

[@Rmx2011]

Wow, didn't expect an electric car to take charge that fast, good for the Ioniq 5. Good video too, interesting to see how the experience really was even when I live on the otherside of the world.

[@gmctech]

While pure electric rechargeable EV's in my mind are just bridge technology till the infrastructure has been beefed up for hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles, I'm rather impressed here. Up here in Canuckistan EV's work but they still aren't up to snuff when you're creeping along at night in -20 degree Celsius temperatures in a raging snow storm with heater blasting, rear defrost on, heater seats on, wipers on hazard flashers on and very hilly terrain. Then if there's a MVA, you could be sitting on the highway in the middle of nowhere in these conditions for hours gobbling up precious watts of go-to juice... But like I said, for what this car is, I am impressed with this car's abilities.... Great video and thanks for posting it for us to watch! 😎

[@DraconianEmpath]

Opinion! I think it's likely batteries will improve to better handle really cold conditions, and more capacity to handle peripherals (heat, AC, etc)... but yeah, getting stuck in -20C would be problematic. maybe fuel cell architecture will work better in less friendly climates. so long as it wasn't produced using steam reformation, I don't really care. :)

[@FreeManFreeThought]

To be fair, -20 isn't great on gas mileage either XD

[@poochie5543]

@@DraconianEmpath idk how much better batteries can get, laws of thermodynamics comes first.

[@gmctech]

@ Pat Meyer And yet my 5 cylinder VW STILL gets 31MPG on the highway @ -20C traveling at 65MPH Fancy that eh?

[@gmctech]

@jpgo500 Hmmmm a wish is a wish, yet batery technology hasn't realy advanced as much as promised as much as was promised a decade ago....

[@Rodarch]

this was 2 years ago, and its the best video I've seen all year

[@Yugophoto]

This is the duo that no one asked for but everyone is ecstatic is happening

[@coredumperror]

I think you guys just sold an Ioniq 5. I've been meaning to test-drive one, after having been behind the wheel of an EV6 (I didn't particularly like it). But the Ioniq 5 works on the same EV platform, and as you showed, it has the equivalent of Tesla's "Summon", which is a feature I use daily to park my car. The one thing I'm concerned about is how well the driver assist works on the highway. You mentioned it briefly in the video, but could you elaborate on how well it worked for you, please? I use Autopilot in my Model 3 every single day, and if Hyundai's equivalent isn't as good at AP on the highway, I don't think I can justify trading in my Model 3.

[@TechnologyConnections]

So, fair critique of the summon feature is that it only moves the car forward and backward, and it's _very_ fiddly. Generally it requires an almost perfectly flat surface, and engaging it is a process. It could perhaps be useful at times, but it's definitely limited compared to Tesla. Hyundai's HDA2, though, is _excellent_ and I've been loving it. I haven't driven a Tesla so I don't have personal experience with AP, but I've read/seen in a few places that HDA2 is at least as good if not better than AP. I've never experienced phantom braking, and the lane centering is very good. Handles curves just fine. The automatic lane change is... slow and it takes some finesse to master how to not make the car think you're overriding it. But outside of that and occasional hesitation to speed up once you're in an open lane, it's an overall excellent assistance suite.

[@ienjoy8008s]

This was awesome, I wish that more auto makers offered AWD options, I’d be interested if you guys would be willing to do a cold weather cross country trek to see performance differences

[@questioner1596]

I believe most EVs at that price or higher have an AWD option, like the Ford Mach-E, Ford F-150 Lightning, Tesla Model 3, Toyota B-some-other-characters-I-forget, Jeep Wrangler, Toyota Rav4 Prime, and others that don't come to mind right away.

[@MaritaCov]

I'm two months into my awd mach-e and I love it.

[@themaritimegirl]

When we needed it most, the bromantic couple came back for us.

[@keiffitz689]

On an unrelated note, didn’t realize how much weight Alex’s been losing. Good job and keep it up hoss

[@SimpleElectronics]

Hey thanks for making this video! I have students EVERY semester that are doubtful that EVs will even work at all - I will be showing them this video! The future looks brighter all the time!

[@BudMasta]

Do tell them about how the winter will zap their batteries every morning and be completely useless in large parts of the US, also leading to premature battery life resulting in atleast a 10k bill.

[@SimpleElectronics]

@@BudMasta winter does lower capacity bit not as much as you think - as well as for most people, electric cars have like enough range to do their average week's driving on a single charge. And that's TODAY - it will get better in the near future

[@BudMasta]

@@SimpleElectronics If you buy a car today, you still have todays technology when the time comes to get rid of the todays battery. It might work, it shouldnt be something a student should get or fresh out of school adult should get.

[@SimpleElectronics]

@@BudMasta alright dude, whatever you say.

[@BudMasta]

@@SimpleElectronics "hey guysngals with student loans, add a multi-year car payment on top of that, youre in school, you can afford that right?" alright dude, whatever you say.

[@erebostd]

Great video! My EV doesn’t charge as fast, so this road-trip would have been a bit longer for me, but the convenience of driving elevator would have been worth it for me. Even better if your car charges so fast 😁👍

[@fastinradfordable]

I hate ev Still impressed

[@erebostd]

@@fastinradfordable ok?

[@pootispiker2866]

​@@fastinradfordableYou have no opinion

[@SL-vs7fs]

Loved this collab. More of you two, please.

[@NoName-ik2du]

I like seeing this. I plan to convert some of my cars to electric some day, and it's good to know that the charging infrastructure will keep them usable on road trips and improvements in technology mean potentially faster charging. Places with food are where I want to see charging stations. I also used to live in Lafayette. Interesting to see a recognizable backdrop in a KZbin video.

[@HainjeDAF]

I love it when you two collaborate.... This is the Trabant all over again. Keep up the good work!

[@DSR216]

Don't forget the Figaro!

[@HainjeDAF]

@@DSR216 but that was colab, but not those 2 in 1 vehicle 🤣🤣🤣

[@Running-with-skizers]

Next trip you should use an equivalent gas powered car to weigh out the differences Alongside the EV

[@timothymclean]

I think most people watching this video have a pretty good idea how road trips work. Sure, the sedan you use changes the numbers a bit, but not by much. It's rare to see a pure gas-powered sedan with less than 25 or more than 35 miles per gallon, barring malfunction.

[@michigandon]

Who was it that did a video of a road trip using a Tesla, an Audi E-Tron and a gas car?

[@briancaster2876]

@@michigandon Wasn't that MKBHD?

[@hotgarbageD]

Glad you got to feel this for yourself. I towed a camper from Boston to Cleveland with a Tesla Model 3, then took just the Model 3 from Cleveland on a 5,200 mile road trip to the west coast and back. Those were stressful trips with the mid range Model 3, but we did it without issue. EV road trips are excellent.

[@AaronOfMpls]

Nicely done! About the only reason I haven't gone electric myself is lack of money for a new car. It's very heartening to see charging infrastructure being built out for long-distance trips! It'll be interesting to see how we get more of it to renters and on-street parkers too. Though on top of that, maybe more and better transit will mean more people _renting_ a car when they need to drive somewhere.

[@Rockport1911]

4:55 Its nice that they offer a credit card reader on every charger. Here in germany the charging network is complicated for non- Tesla EV´s because you need multiple charging cards for all regions. Building in credit card readers is expensive. But getting " EV fuel" should be as easy as in a gas car... Iam doing alot of long distance driving in germany, but it seems like that EV chargers on hotels and other places are just not catching up. The chraging network along the Autobahn is pretty good tho. For now iam glad I still drive a Passat TDI with 1000km of range :)

[@orangejjay]

Building in credit card readers shouldn't be that hard or expensive. We can get cheap readers that plug into our phones and allow people and businesses to accept cards ANYWHERE. Nor having them on charging stations (when they have them on normal gas pumps) sounds lime a deliberate move to make charging stations more difficult.

[@herscher1297]

@@orangejjay as far as i know these kind of readers are relativly new but ive seen them more and more around here (in germany)

[@tzarcoal1018]

@@orangejjay You are missing something. The actual Hardware is not the issue, the transaction fees from the credit card companies are the reason they are reluctant to put card terminals on the charger. I am from Germany and here credit cards are refused at many places, not because the stores can't afford the reader, they don't want to give away a piece of the revenue cake.

[@DeanDoom]

@@tzarcoal1018 I'm sure Most people would be willing to have the fee of 0.5% included in the price for convenience sake.

[@tzarcoal1018]

@@DeanDoom American Express is much more than 0.5%! To directly charge the customer would be an option, therefor their margins are not reduced, and the customer can chose to opt in for convenience or not. I mean realistically most EV Drivers that have their car for a while do know what charging networks they are out there and what payment options they have. It is only the people that have a new vehicle that are confused at first.

[@murdoch9106]

Dream car, its so cool! The little Honda is awesome too but the range is a bit low, but what a great city car... the Honda that is... And new batteries coming up will not have the fire issues or cold / Heat issues it seems and be cheaper and more capacity so I'm excited for the EV future despite all the haters.

[@thomasfrederiksendk]

As a Honda e owner: it’s not actually bad for short European distance road trips. It’ll do 100 km of 100 km/h driving between 80% and 20% if the weather is decent. It rules the city, though. Most fun I’ve had driving in the city ever.

[@MitsubishiGTO]

The Honda E is amazing!

[@befalcon9498]

Wow very much not a colab I was every expecting to see. But so happy we have this. Love this :D

[@makaylaserniotti1474]

Not only is this an amazing collab, the eco flow ad is actually something I could use for a camping trip. 👀

[@evolv.e]

I have two EcoFlows - The Delta series are fantastic.

[@nickloh912]

Yay, more AW/TC collabs!

[@maxj9204]

I've been watching chargers pop up in more and more rural/remote areas of BC. Can't believe how fast it's happening, road trips across the province are already a possibility.

[@SummitCoyote]

There are still none within 30 minutes of me.

[@coisnotpog]

From selling Hyundai's for the past 4 years, i can tell the time is here. We went from not being able to talk people into the old Ioniq EV, to doing OK with the Kona EV, and now we literally cannot keep the Ioniq 5s on the lot. I have personally sold more Ioniq 5s than we have had Ioniq and Kona EV in the last 4 years. It has me super excited for the Ioniq 6 and 7 that are coming soon. My and my Fiancé actually lived with the old Ioniq EV. Not the new numbered model, but the one you could also get as a hybrid. It has 126 miles of range, and we never had a issue....3 years ago. Literally half the range of the new one 5 AWD model. The people that are scared of theses newer EVs are just scared of change. The wave is coming fast, and the technology almost just as fast. Once i can get an F150, or Ram 1500 EV (if they would actually show it off) with similar charging speed to the Ioniq 5 (and not 20,000+ over MSRP like the F150s are already going for), i will be full bore into EVs again. 50,000k MSRP, 250 miles of range, and a 6 foot bed. That is literally all I require.

[@angerthosenear_yt]

I too love the Lane Motor Museum! Great folks there. This road trip looked like great fun.

[@inexplah]

I want to see what trips like this are like during cold weather.

[@timothymclean]

More stops to charge, less goofing around outside when stopped. Sounds like these factors would cancel out if you're travelling with these two!

[@dav1dsm1th]

Interesting video, as always. It would have been interesting to hear what the fuel cost for a comparable ICE vehicle doing the same trip would have been.

[@jimurrata6785]

Robert says in the beginning that it was a 1,200 mile road trip. 600 miles for ~$90 is $0.06.6 a mile. Gas is about $4 gallon and say your comparable SUV gets 25mpg highway. You're looking at $96 in fuel. But _much_ less maintenance: No oil change every 5k, no air, fuel or oil filters, brakes last much longer because of regen, no exhaust system, no fuel system or pump and a very different cooling system because electric motors are _FAR_ more efficient than an ICE.

[@dav1dsm1th]

@@jimurrata6785 1,200 / 25 = 48 (gallons) 48 x $4 = $192 (not $96) You may need to change the batteries in your calculator. My point was that the information would be useful (and timely) if it was in the video.

[@jimurrata6785]

@@dav1dsm1th I was thinking they were in Florida (600 mi) when recapping the trip. Seems a lot of leaves on the trees for Chicago??? But I'm okay with being wrong, my math wasn't.

[@coredumperror]

@@jimurrata6785 Chicago is 1200 miles from central Florida, not 600. So if they'd had to spend any money on that charging, it would have been about half as much as the gas would have cost. Also note that they were getting *especially* bad efficiency due to that headwind. They mentioned at one point that they were getting 1.3 miles per kWh. Compared to my Model 3, which gets almost *4* miles per kWh, that's *really* inefficient. The Ioniq 5 is known to be a major electron-guzzler.

[@jimurrata6785]

@@coredumperror Well I'm definitely far off base then. So your Model 3 could do this trip using 40% of the electrons Alec's car did? I can see that if I finally get an electric car I'm never going to stop driving. 😁

[@SilverScarletSpider]

i heard some reviews had a high pitched sound in the cabin of hyundai's at high way speeds. glad to hear that wasnt the case here

[@daveb8598]

This is awesome! thank you for making this, sharing it and collaborating with technology connections. I love toaster guy

[@LongPeter]

When I was a kid, we had LPG installed on our V8 Land Rover County. For the most part it just meant much cheaper fuel. In the early days though we did definitely plan road trips around where LPG was available. On one trip to the Riverland in SA, the Land Rover logo blew out of the rusting OEM muffler. It sounded absolutely phenomenal for the rest of the trip.

[@dquad]

Running a car on LPG here in New Zealand is cheaper than an electric car with fast charging

[@LongPeter]

@@dquad LPG is getting more expensive here now and many servos are no longer stocking it. Apparently it is because the taxis all switched to hybrid so demand has fallen off. I never consider fast chargers in electric car ownership costs. Mind you, I live in Adelaide where we have about the same solar access as the Parker Solar Probe.

[@tjnucnuc]

I love the Ioniq 5. It really drives like a little sports car/suv especially with its rear bias. It’s extremely fun when you turn off traction control. Full AWD drifts! While it is fun we are several years away from mass EV adoption.

[@BioniqBob]

Norway EV sales are over 80% now.

[@picoaudrey1]

We put our order in yesterday ;) Can't wait to see your video about it.

[@mcmagiccracker]

I appreciate that you were courteous enough to blur out one of the license plates.

[@SimpleCarGuy]

One thing I have learned with my i3 project is that going the speed limit or the speed everyone else is going uses almost twice as much battery as going 55-65, which is unrealistic

[@swecreations]

Yep, going between 20-45mph is the most efficient, and going above 60-70mph does tank your range from my own experience.

[@zambitiber1394]

@@swecreations No road trips for me then, it'll take forever getting anywhere at 45.

[@jimurrata6785]

Aerodynamic drag goes up in square to velocity. Nobody needed a car project to figure out basic fluid dynamics.

[@swecreations]

@@zambitiber1394 What? Just go 70mph lol, it's not like it cuts your range in half, more like 20%, which honestly isn't much.

[@DisintegrationZerfall]

I had pretty much the same experience here in Germany with a Tesla on a 800 km Roadtrip. No problems what so ever. That was one of the smoothest journeys I´ve ever made with a car. EV is not the future, its the present!

[@xWood4000]

*the present for higher middle class income families in warm areas. Still really cool and exciting but for it to actually have a significant impact on global CO2 it needs to be much cheaper. Used EVs need to get better too

[@tzarcoal1018]

@@xWood4000 You can not have a big used EV market if you don't have a big new EV market a decade earlier. EVs will get more affordable, we just have to wait a bit.

[@mjc0961]

Why did I laugh so hard at "Get out of my way, Pathfinder!" 🤣

[@trekstenen1]

I live in Denmark, where more than 50% of new cars are electrified. I was nervous buying an electric car without a charger at home. 4 months later, and i have never had to stop to charge, unless im going on a roadtrip. There are chargers litterally everywhere you can park, and most of them you dont have to pay for.

[@jmurray01]

Certainly the most promising EV experience I've seen so far! Still has a long way to go before I'd buy one though, as living in a rural area and planning a journey around charging stations is just not convenient for me. Don't get me wrong, once charging stations are as quick and prolific as fuel stations I'd have no problem making the switch, but time will tell how long that takes to get in place.

[@Joe-sn6ir]

yes. lets add a whole bunch of quick charging stations to an already maxed out distribution system. that is fucking brilliant. O.o

[@jmurray01]

@@Joe-sn6ir Thanks for stating the obvious bud. Nowhere did I say the electricity grid wouldn't need major upgrades as part of that process, rather I thought that was pretty obvious and didn't require stating in an informal KZbin comment. But you've brought it to our attention so I am forever indebted to you, thank you so much.

[@pongusikya]

If I was in the market for a car, this video makes me feel that getting an EV would be no problem. Great video. Thanks! :D

[@siem8254]

Got the opportunity to drive one of these at work when we had a vehicle test day. awesome car really liked it.

[@EstorilE36M345]

Two of my favorite KZbinrs were minutes from my house and I had no idea! Glad the trip was good. I love the new Ionic 5!

[@proudvirginian]

I'm at the point in the video wherein you say, "an EV road trip is a non-issue". As an EV owner (ID4) I can say without issue, that it is indeed, a non-issue. I road trip the snot out of my car and will not go back to gas life.

[@atrifle8364]

Why? Do you like spending hours looking at your car when you could be traveling? It takes 5-10 minutes tops to gas up a car.

[@ApolloSevan]

I love how awkward you both are! Makes me feel at home.😂

[@thenetworkarchitectchannel]

Ionic 5 is a beast. Doing a road trip in one where you only stop at EA chargers means you don't have time to eat a burger b4 the charge is done. We own a Tesla Model 3 and really nothing beats the domestic super charger network for road trips and also how Tesla's precondition batteries to pull max juice for short charging stops, but the Ionic 5 with EA chargers is a close second. Thx for the vid.

[@EverythingIsBrokenGarage]

Wow two of my favorite KZbin channel types collide... Automotive and Tech (Retro) great work guys!

[@Happymali10]

11:00 EVs often have problems with brakes rusting/seizing especially in the rear, because with the motors doing the braking and most EVs lacking a proper handbrake they...kinda get underused.

[@bwofficial1776]

I read today that Tesla requires the brakes to be lubricated yearly and it's apparently not cheap.

[@Happymali10]

@@bwofficial1776 Unless you're greasing the discs (odd) that won't help against rust.

[@DarkDutch007]

I think that electric cars from Porsche has brakes with a layer of a non-rusting metal (cant remember what it was) as standard or as an option. Because as you said, the normal brakes get used as good as never on an EV, with the exception of emergencies ofcourse.

[@logitech4873]

@@bwofficial1776 Not cheap? A simple car jack is very, very cheap. It's a simple DIY thing.

[@Mark-jd1jx]

@@Happymali10 The caliper slide pins are the ones that need to be greased, you would never put grease on a rotor and this isn't to prevent rust.

[@Huntracony]

I should get my first EV (Dacia Spring) on Monday and I'm really excited! It's not exactly a road trip car, advertised range of 230km (~140mi) and 'fast' charging at 30kw, but that's good enough for me! And it's the only electric option in my price range.

[@FruityLoopyd]

Congrats! The spring is a great car for the money. In my eyes, it has only one major flaw. The fast 30kw charger is more like 5 to 10kw in the winter.

[@Huntracony]

@@FruityLoopyd Good to know, thanks!

[@deadadam666]

im glad you are helping out small channels like Technology connections

[@evanhoozier]

I live right down the road from that charging station in Manchester. I literally have never seen anyone use it before.

[@michaeltutty1540]

Very interesting. Now, I wonder how it would be with temperatures below 0 Fahrenheit, with snow on the road and traffic that turns a 1 hour drive into a 5 hour test of endurance. Those are very much normal winter conditions here, and ones that my 32 year old Volvo 240 handles with total ease. Come to that, so did my 69 Acadian. In excess of 200 miles on a fill even then.

[@idrisddraig2]

See Tesla Bjorn (he is the leading EV reviewer on youtube) he lives in Norway!

[@idrisddraig2]

@@a1c3c3u Have you ever been? Norway has a tiny population, but it's not a tiny country. Big distances between towns. And a population that likes to drive to other parts of europe for vacation necessitating 2+ days roadtrip to get there.

[@harvey66616]

@@a1c3c3u Bjorn on his channel _routinely_ tests various EVs with 1000 km trips. _"Not something that could be done in an EV"_ is so far from correct, it's almost not even worth bothering to call you out on it. Almost.

[@harvey66616]

Note that stretching a 1 hour highway drive in 5 hours for a gas powered car is going to _greatly_ reduce your fuel efficiency, while the exact opposite happens for an EV. I doubt any modern EV would have any trouble at all with that scenario, even ignoring the fact that it's far from a typical one ( _"very much normal winter conditions"_ is a ridiculous statement; the vast majority of US drivers aren't driving 1-hour trips in the first place; you don't say where "here" is, but if it's "normal" for drivers where you are to drive 1 hour trips, _and_ it's normal that the roads used for those trips are not kept maintained and cleared of snow relatively soon after a storm, then your experience is not anywhere close to being useful to judging the utility of EVs ).

[@harvey66616]

@@a1c3c3u Whatever. Your claims don't hold water, in Canada or anywhere else. No significant number of people in Canada is _routinely_ driving 90 km routes in snow that increases travel times to 5 hours. And as I already pointed out, for that incredibly tiny number of people who for some reason get stuck like that, an EV is going to be a better choice than the gas-powered equivalent, since the EV fuel efficiency goes _up_ in situations like that, while gas-powered efficiency drops dramatically. But, who cares? You want to be ignorant, no skin off my nose or anyone else's. Less demand for EVs, especially these days with all the supply chain issues, just means easier for those of us with a clue to buy one. So, yes, please...stick to your guns.

[@ezo7490]

two videos later 'lets swap ioniq 5 powertrain in wheego'

[@pootispiker2866]

I wish charging stations had classic gas station amenities like windshield washers and roofs over the stations. I would have loved to have both on my last road trip.

[@mihoda]

Ah, the dry humor combo we never knew we needed. You two beautiful gents need to keep on keeping on.

[@DeviantOllam]

I am so here for this. Love you both and can't wait to watch after dinner. For all of us who were inspired by CGP Grey's video but think Elon Musk is a stunad and not a good recipient of our dollars... this could prove very educational and helpful! (Tarah and I have been looking at several Volvo Recharge XC models, BTW) ⚡👍

[@agingwheels]

I absolutely love the C40. I didn't think I would, but I do.

[@DeviantOllam]

@@agingwheels You've now got us looking at charge rates because this was amazing to watch ⚡⚡⚡ Also, we LoL'd at the Corvette museum... Museum: "behold! A collection of some of the greatest motor vehicle engineering specimens and pieces of Americana to ever touch pavement on our vast interstates and racetracks!" Robert: "Where's the gents?" Museum: "Just over there ... But after you come out, are you going to take our tour?" Robert: "Sorry... Your cars are quite nice and all, but I'm afraid they're just not very weird. I think the restroom will do it for me."

[@DeviantOllam]

Ooof... "Fast charging DC up to 150 kW under optimal charging conditions for XC40 Recharge Twin." Your video has set such unreasonable desires, ha!

[@agingwheels]

Hey, that's a heck of a lot better than the 50kw you get from a Bolt! I personally think 150kw will be plenty considering how little I'll quick charge. I believe this so much that I bought a Polestar 2 😮

[@DeviantOllam]

@@agingwheels Ohh very neat! Looking forward to seeing news of how that all is. BTW, you know that you've got plenty of us wondering if you two hit up any theme parks when you got to central FL. Sea World is the hidden gem, what with some of the most wicked coasters and fewer lines than your other big players. 🐬🎢

[@zacksstuff]

The collab of the century! Technology Wheels! Aging Connections!

[@Eklipze3k]

I don't even remember which of your guy's channels I encountered first, either way I'm here for alllll of your combined content and I can't wait to see this bromance flourish!

[@ShotgunAFlyboy]

10:57 I love summon so much. So glad that feature is spreading across the car industry!