How Edward Blake became The Comedian (Watchmen)

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@thedragondemands
@thedragondemands 3 жыл бұрын
Blake understood. Treated it like a joke, but he understood. He saw the cracks in society, saw the little men in masks trying to hold it together...he saw the true face of the twentieth century and chose to become a reflection of it, a _parody_ of it. No one else saw the joke. That's why he was lonely...
@UFOUAPMagnet
@UFOUAPMagnet 3 жыл бұрын
The irony is that the Comedian was the only one who gets the joke....
@jamesmata2945
@jamesmata2945 Жыл бұрын
Red dragon clothing still around?
@thedragondemands
@thedragondemands Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmata2945 ?
@jamesmata2945
@jamesmata2945 Жыл бұрын
@@thedragondemands oh i thought you liked the old red dragon skate clothing from the early 2000's based on your profile pic. Pro skater steve caballero wore their clothes in the tony hawk games.
@thedragondemands
@thedragondemands Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmata2945 what does this have to do with Watchmen?
@whycreate
@whycreate 3 жыл бұрын
Old stories are like old friends. You have to visit them from time to time.
@burningchrome70
@burningchrome70 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a burden, especially when others know.
@looverse2023
@looverse2023 3 жыл бұрын
Your content is comedically underrated
@willkoestner4159
@willkoestner4159 3 жыл бұрын
THAT is a top shelf comment.
@biff7969
@biff7969 2 жыл бұрын
Top shelf gets between the sheets. Two sheets in the wind
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 3 жыл бұрын
He was a dark parody of the Joker, one who couldn’t laugh at his own jokes.
@MrSPIDEY21
@MrSPIDEY21 3 жыл бұрын
A “dark” parody of the joker? How can you be a Dark parody of the joker…the comedian is nowhere near as Dark as the joker
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSPIDEY21 this is the man that attempted to rape a fellow hero, became a psychopath for his joy in killing people, and basically didn’t believe humans beings were worth saving or helping. At least the Joker has fun and laughter within his own “jokes”, the Comedian doesn’t even enjoy his killing.
@Doop3r
@Doop3r 3 жыл бұрын
@@inquisitorgarza312 ....even The Comedian would be disgusted at the depravity The Joker is capable of. Also, Comedian, by Moore's own admission, is based on The Peacemaker. The Joker doesn't even enter into it and never did.
@ravinglibertopian3226
@ravinglibertopian3226 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doop3r Even if Moore wrote what he did ; I'm afraid I have to strongly disagree. The only real difference between comedian and the joker's character is how they decided to cope with the savage and unforgiving nature of humanity. If anything ; despite them both taking the black pill(realizing nothing matters in the big picture) ; comedian.... if anything would most likely bust a cap between joker's eyes the first chance he got ; and would amorally move on without even so much as a second thought to the matter ; or the consequences to his actions. Ironically exactly what the joker would do. Comedian just so happens to be a bit less fanatic and more sane about it ; and that's quiet literally the only difference. Just my opinion.
@thatboymeak
@thatboymeak 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravinglibertopian3226 lol, the Comedian was literally supposed to be Peacemaker until DC decided not to let Moore use their characters. your opinion is wrong.
@thedragondemands
@thedragondemands 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree; I don't think Ozymandias pretended to be beat because he was smart enough to realize the Comedian had government support...I think the Comedian just plain beat his ass. The way he describes it dismissively as a crude but effective feint....it's the difference between being totally prepared artificially, and real life experience. Ozymandias has all this training, "the smartest man alive", to the point he thinks he's invincible - that in real life, not everything goes to plan. He didn't consider "what if Rorschach simply mailed a report about his findings to the press, before leaving for Antarctica?" - never occurred to him. Similarly, by the time they fought, the Comedian had been getting in fist fights on a weekly basis for something like three or four decades. While Ozymandias was just starting out in his career (not the peak condition we even saw by 1985). So for all his ranting about "I'm the best trained and smartest man alive", the Comedian's just plain real life experience proved a greater threat than he anticipated. That was always Ozy's weakness: not realizing that even the smartest man alive isn't all-knowing.
@Durmomo0
@Durmomo0 3 жыл бұрын
I fucking hate Ozy
@Blackburn-Arts
@Blackburn-Arts 3 жыл бұрын
They're all terrible in their own right not in the character design but by their actions
@UFOUAPMagnet
@UFOUAPMagnet 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blackburn-Arts Never watch how sausage is being made, just like you should never learn too much about your heroes.
@davidemelia6296
@davidemelia6296 3 жыл бұрын
At that point, Ozymandias had better stats, but Comedian had more experience levels. Simple as that. :D
@supersecret39
@supersecret39 Ай бұрын
Experience bro. Drugs, & his current mental state waned on The Comedian so that’s why he lost second time
@all_the_bad_news5614
@all_the_bad_news5614 3 жыл бұрын
The comedian was the only one to ever catch Moloch and to put that in perspective Moloch escaped from Dr Manhattan in the books, that's how incredible the character is supposed to be in the books
@thebatman9309
@thebatman9309 3 жыл бұрын
He was 16 when he became the comedian, and in the watchmen movie he was in his 20’s when he became the comedian, that’s why he looks a lot older than his comic counterpart
@awake1251
@awake1251 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of content I’ve been searching for. Well-written, well delivered information and entertainment. Thank you for your upload!
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 3 жыл бұрын
Plotwise, switching from an alien squid to Dr. Manhattan makes far more sense. I'm a new subscriber and I've been enjoying your videos.
@TheVetoSkreeemer
@TheVetoSkreeemer 3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess you havent read the cómic, or did it after watching the movie.
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVetoSkreeemer Neither.
@TheVetoSkreeemer
@TheVetoSkreeemer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cautionary_Tale_Harris ok
@maylabrown4584
@maylabrown4584 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVetoSkreeemer What does him doing either have to do with his statement? There's nothing in either version of the Watchmen that makes either more of a plausible choice. Personally, Doctor Manhattan makes much more sense than an "alien" squid, especially since it's something more tangible than alien life which Ozymandias would have to keep supporting the existence of.
@thedragondemands
@thedragondemands 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe make a short combined one on Silk Spectre II and Nite Owl II? I mean, they're the surviving characters and the graphic novel at least implies that just as the Crimebusters were the "Silver Age" heroes in their universe, they'll restart a new generation of "Bronze Age" heroes. I guess a through-line could also be the fact that they're BOTH "Legacy characters", how comics do that with multiple characters taking up the same mantle. That she didn't want to be the new Silk Spectre, while in contrast he _politely asked_ the original Nite Owl to take up the title.
@Blackburn-Arts
@Blackburn-Arts 3 жыл бұрын
In the end of the book she basically described wanting to wear a costume similar to the comedian pretty much implying to become the comedienne.
@Randolo10
@Randolo10 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff Morgan nailed it in watchmen
@CassiusSharp
@CassiusSharp 6 ай бұрын
1:26 The comedian was aged up for The watchmen movie
@cascadianrangers728
@cascadianrangers728 3 жыл бұрын
The comedian isn't psychotic: Hes in touch with reality, understands the consequences of his actions, but don't care who he harms; Hes psychopathic, and doesn't even have a lot of normal human emotions, like regret, or empathy
@sean5558
@sean5558 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s very easy to use the words interchangeable when describing someone unhinged like thats
@aaronbonogofsky4463
@aaronbonogofsky4463 2 жыл бұрын
“What happened to the American dream? It came true, you’re lookin at it.”-Edward Blake/aka The Comedian
@HeavenOrHell74
@HeavenOrHell74 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this. Much appreciated 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@bradyblu4794
@bradyblu4794 3 жыл бұрын
I want a Silk Soectre Nite Owl video. They have the most hopeful end in the comic.
@alastair7095
@alastair7095 3 жыл бұрын
The type of character that’s scary because he makes too much sense
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew 3 жыл бұрын
The comedian was smart enough to know that life is a joke
@jamesmata2945
@jamesmata2945 2 жыл бұрын
The comedian was a horrible person but I can't help but have a soft spot for his realness. He definitely has some guilt considering he asked for forgiveness before his untimely decease.
@Menace2Society7701
@Menace2Society7701 Жыл бұрын
Yep, don't agree with the actions but the perspective and groundedness that he embodied is something to take and apply in a reasonable and logical manner. The punisher and Deadpool carries that similar vibe
@bthoblank8285
@bthoblank8285 2 жыл бұрын
Probably not the best thing to say but the comedian was my favorite character right next to rorsach obviously not a fan of a few things the character did, however the way he saw the world around him as well as his philosophy was very interesting plus Jeffrey dean morgan had an amazing performance
@Menace2Society7701
@Menace2Society7701 Жыл бұрын
Yep, don't agree with the actions but the perspective and groundedness that he embodied is something to take and apply in a reasonable and logical manner. The punisher and Deadpool carries that similar vibe
@qquartermain6668
@qquartermain6668 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a Nite Owl/Silk Spectre vid would be great! Two second generation heroes with predecessors with the same name.
@rebadarby2492
@rebadarby2492 2 жыл бұрын
Comedian=Joker in a different universe
@QuintMarvel
@QuintMarvel 3 жыл бұрын
You skipped over one extra detail, it was a Psychic Squid. Not only did he dump a horrible mutant on Manhattan, but it was a side effect of transmitting horrible images into the minds survivors. I think that was what truly freaked out The Comedian. I mean, that squid isn't much different than dropping a bomb, but those psychic images might have been horrifying. Maybe that's how Adrian finally beat Edward. When it comes to physicality, the guy with the guns is going to win, but Adrian's title was "The World's Smartest Man," it makes sense that he'd win by attacking the Comedian's mind.
@louisea.6618
@louisea.6618 Жыл бұрын
1:27 This is a nitpick but in the movie he's 21 or 22 in that scene. They aged Blake up by 6 years so they could use Jeffrey for that flashback instead of getting another actor.
@dennisanderson3895
@dennisanderson3895 3 жыл бұрын
Last line, from the New Frontiersman publisher: "I leave it entirely in your hands."
@johnrichmond5342
@johnrichmond5342 3 жыл бұрын
I havnt read the book yet but from what I can gather the movie adaptation is the most faithful comic to movie to date. The biggest change which also made more sense is swapping aliens with Dr Manhattan.
@lntnchrs1
@lntnchrs1 3 жыл бұрын
This one earned you a sub my friend, keep up the great work
@mushfiqurrahman1107
@mushfiqurrahman1107 3 жыл бұрын
I understand Alan should have a say in his works, but the later works that expanded Watchmen were really good. I loved them. Now I guess its a personal choice as to which narrative we will follow.... I like to acknowledge both. Like I acknowledging Alan's narrative and how he wanted this to be a one-shot story that stands as an satire to superhero genre, a dark joke with hard-hitting punchline. For Alan, it was never about creating and expanding an universe, it was about making a point. And he made it well. Dragging this thing on doesn't make sense and could even ruin the purpose. But I also get the DC narrative and how they see that as wonderful universe left quite unexplored so it makes total sense to expand into it. And they have done a good job in it. For example Doomsday Clock #12 is my favorite finishing to any comic series. Now I can live with this. You know acknowledging Alan's narrative while also enjoying DC works
@maylabrown4584
@maylabrown4584 3 жыл бұрын
It's just a different Universe, Watchmen is Canon to DC while DC is not Canon to Watchmen. Once Doctor Manhattan came in contact with The DC Omniverse-Nexus (i.e Prime Earth) he himself was removed from the Original Watchmen Universe, allowing for The Watchmen Universe to be added into the Infinite Multiverse. This is what caused a variant of Doctor Manhattan, or Bruce Wayne to be specific, to be found by The Batman Who Laughs in The Dark Multiverse (The Negative Side of The Infinite Multiverse) where he ends up later becoming The Darkest Knight.
@mushfiqurrahman1107
@mushfiqurrahman1107 3 жыл бұрын
@@maylabrown4584 umm, thats not exactly the the dispute with Alan Moore. Alan's resentment are more metafictional.
@maylabrown4584
@maylabrown4584 3 жыл бұрын
@@mushfiqurrahman1107 I know that, but I'm saying that in reality it's just another Universe, everything that happened in The Original Watchmen Universe did happen and nothing has changed. In the Alternate Watchmen Universe which Doctor Manhattan inadvertently creates, that is it's own Universe and has now layered itself into the rest of the DC Universe.
@Happy_Slappy2_0
@Happy_Slappy2_0 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Ozymadias actually lost a fight? He seemed 100% accurate in any situation, the dude can catch bullets on the fly, and counter on coming sneak attacks like he has spider sense. I'm shocked to hear he actually got his ass beat for once.
@TheRetrostorian
@TheRetrostorian Жыл бұрын
Check out doomsday clock for more Ozy ass beatings.
@donovanfaust3227
@donovanfaust3227 2 жыл бұрын
Man I got this in recommendations and thought I'd give it a chance. This is like a sixth grader's essay. I wasn't going to be too harsh until he said he already covered four other characters but decided not to cover the last two because they're "boring". Sounds like he just barely understands the more obvious commentary this graphic novel provides about the super hero genre.
@jasonandrews2921
@jasonandrews2921 3 жыл бұрын
He's like a male version of my ol lady. Damn I love that crazy woman
@ripxip
@ripxip 3 жыл бұрын
Yo man, whycreate talking about watchmen? so inspirational.
@markherron1407
@markherron1407 Жыл бұрын
Edward Blake aka Comedian looks like Commander USA and Clark Gable Blessings and Hugs 💖💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕!
@uppercutgrandma4425
@uppercutgrandma4425 3 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore lost his hunger a long time ago.
@robertkramer90
@robertkramer90 2 жыл бұрын
....and then he became Negan.
@jendersonmohammed443
@jendersonmohammed443 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite characters!
@benpaterson2237
@benpaterson2237 3 жыл бұрын
He might be super, but he's no hero!
@caolanmcflynn2412
@caolanmcflynn2412 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a life on Dan dreiberg second nite owl
@jameshoops10
@jameshoops10 3 жыл бұрын
do you take into account the watchmen tv series of the story about hooded justice?
@midas9197
@midas9197 3 жыл бұрын
But what about the best character Mothman?
@stinkyfungus
@stinkyfungus 3 жыл бұрын
Bedazzled by Doctor Manhattan's blue glow, he accidently walked into traffic and was smooshed by a school bus. Tragic.
@knytewing3107
@knytewing3107 2 жыл бұрын
I know I might be late to say this, but in case y'all haven't noticed, he's based off of Peacemaker. If you read or watched Watchmen before The Suicide Squad and The Peacemaker tv show, don't be surprised to what he does since he's the one who was an inspiration for Comedian. We all know that he's not a nice guy. I hate the person he is, but I like his badass skills. Unfortunately it was dated when he got his ass whooped by Ozymandias.
@marcusbrothers5221
@marcusbrothers5221 9 ай бұрын
Have you ever heard the theory that the Comedian was used by the government to destabilize superhero groups?
@yucansuckadee8930
@yucansuckadee8930 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.
@Whoyouwishyouwere
@Whoyouwishyouwere 4 ай бұрын
The movie should've been a trilogy
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Did you do Dollar Bill? Don't forget him!
@timothykatch1855
@timothykatch1855 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic thanks
@mookly1056
@mookly1056 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno, night owl is pretty interesting...being a super hero is literally his fetish
@Mr.Honest247
@Mr.Honest247 Жыл бұрын
There’s nothing interesting about a safe personality.
@fabriciosolano4612
@fabriciosolano4612 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I hate Alan Moore, part of what makes comics special is because it is medium were many writers united to tell stories, I hate how he thinks that he deserves better treatment than hundreds of great writers that let their character being written by other writers. Specially when he originally wanted to use already existing characters like the Question, Blue Beatle, and Peacemaker; and it was Dc who told him to create “new” characters
@Lite727
@Lite727 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and he just based all of them off of Charleton characters anyway
@TheVetoSkreeemer
@TheVetoSkreeemer 3 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore is more angry with Dc comics for the rights of Watchmen.
@norseczar27
@norseczar27 Жыл бұрын
Doomsday clock is amazing
@kidmclain
@kidmclain 3 жыл бұрын
Please reconsider and do silk and night owl
@Durmomo0
@Durmomo0 3 жыл бұрын
I cant help but love the Comedian. He is such an amoral asshole too
@GrimJRS
@GrimJRS 3 жыл бұрын
Why was he so old. 67 or something when he died, but night owl and the rest are in their 30-40s.
@irongiant43
@irongiant43 3 жыл бұрын
The mantle of night owl was passed down, and there was a new generation of heroes
@madpanda8528
@madpanda8528 3 жыл бұрын
I hate that we don't have more of One Piece. And I know, we get more every week or two but sadly as it is, if Oda would take his time to tell everything about this world, then this story would never come to a conclusion...
@judsongaiden9878
@judsongaiden9878 Ай бұрын
8:46 It's "vigilantism," not "vigilante-ism."
@kevingonzalez3673
@kevingonzalez3673 3 жыл бұрын
Do a Comedian Vs. Superman please.
@LokiTheClever
@LokiTheClever 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Superman wins
@kevingonzalez3673
@kevingonzalez3673 3 жыл бұрын
@@LokiTheClever Superman does not have a defense for bad jokes;0
@fenrir5361
@fenrir5361 2 жыл бұрын
How the fuck would he be at that point physically at 15?
@soyuzdavillan721
@soyuzdavillan721 3 жыл бұрын
The Watchmen TV shoe on HBO was the biggest load of self serving wank I've ever seen. What an embarrassment. The theme was basically "white people bad".
@la-li-lu-le-lo9444
@la-li-lu-le-lo9444 2 жыл бұрын
And I called that from the first set of previews
@joefreeman505
@joefreeman505 2 жыл бұрын
he was right that life is a joke but there's no excuse to be such an asshole he just wanted to kill people for own sick pleasure at the cost of others. but that what meant to represent the dark side of humans.
@nonyodambiz
@nonyodambiz 3 жыл бұрын
You can only be so much of a self made parody until you start pushing people away to the point where it's not even a joke anymore. Blake died the way he lived: Alone.
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 3 жыл бұрын
WC!!!
@floydmichaelmoss
@floydmichaelmoss 3 жыл бұрын
Before watchmen is great go read it
@Mr.Honest247
@Mr.Honest247 Жыл бұрын
I guess the downside of being “just good” as Nightowl makes him less interesting. Funny how life works. No one gets out without paying a price of some sort no matter how “good” you are.
@generalj216
@generalj216 3 жыл бұрын
I like before watchmen but the comedian one sucked. Should’ve been his origin instead of that Vietnam crap
@Blackburn-Arts
@Blackburn-Arts 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed could've seen who raised him or didn't raise him what event happened to him to take up the moniqeur the comedian and so on
@undeaddave9671
@undeaddave9671 3 жыл бұрын
"You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means" lots of misused words in this video.
@midnightmosesuk
@midnightmosesuk 3 жыл бұрын
So, a man overtaken by bloodlust, sees the world as a massive joke, kills men, women and children without remorse, thinks the world and everyone in it are crazy except for him, dresses garishly like a clown. Of course, I'm talking about The Joker.
@johncodmore
@johncodmore 3 жыл бұрын
We've been so bombarded with Jokers, but there is only one Edward Blake.
@yucansuckadee8930
@yucansuckadee8930 3 жыл бұрын
HBO ruined the whole world.
@LokiTheClever
@LokiTheClever 3 жыл бұрын
They tried to be a sequel to the comic but as a result had other plotholes and problems
@kevingonzalez3673
@kevingonzalez3673 3 жыл бұрын
He aint too funny for a comedian.
@LokiTheClever
@LokiTheClever 3 жыл бұрын
He's a comedian not a well liked comedian, his humor is the world is a joke (and especially given the world he lives in it's not hard to see why)
@didyouseewhatidone5412
@didyouseewhatidone5412 Ай бұрын
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