How Far Can Electric Mountain Bikes REALLY Go?? RANGE TEST ON ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWERPLAY INSTINCT

Welcome back to Sam's Bikes; where you know we only talk e-bikes, and in today's video its all about the range or Autonomy of one charge of the Dyname 4.0 720Wh battery on the Rocky Mountain Powerplay Instinct.
What is an Extreme range test at Sam's Bikes, quite simply, we put every electric mountain bike in the highest assistant mode and loop my favourite downhill run out of battery.
And if you're interested in finding out, which is the most efficient, Electric mountain bike system and then you have to watch the extreme range test where I put seven of the best electric mountain bike motors such as Bosch CX Race, Brose Mag S, Shimano EP801, Bafang M510 and yamaha, PWX3 you have to watch this video below, check it out and let me know what you think.
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[@SamsBikes]

What is going on Legends, If anyone is looking at a Rocky Powerplay, this video might be interesting for the range you can get from their 720Wh battery

[@TheLastMoccasin]

Great video! The Instinct A50 is on sale in the US for $3600 and I haven't seen any other bikes in that price range that compare. Very tempted to buy one 😬.

[@hudsonisbetter]

@@TheLastMoccasinI am to

[@TheLastMoccasin]

@@hudsonisbetter I ended up buying the C70 version instead 🤤. Very happy after the first 400 miles.

[@jimross898]

Woot! Woot! With my overtime pack, I rode 55.8 km and climbed 1869 meters on my Instinct with 3% left. If I do the math, my 722 main pack would have gotten me 40.3 km and 1347 meters. My climbs were all single track and steeper than yours which probably explains my lower elevation numbers but somehow, I got more distance. And Rocky is blowing these bikes out right now. Huge discounts of 35% on all Instinct Powerplay models. Overtime pack is half price.

[@hudsonisbetter]

Awesome what mode Wher you in the most?

[@jimross898]

@@hudsonisbetter 100% with boost set to 1. LOL I'm old...

[@hudsonisbetter]

@@jimross898nice

[@TCK71]

When I first got my EMTB all my initial rides were to learn how far and how high I could go. It set a good base line so there’s no range anxiety.

[@jimross898]

Me too. I still keep a spreadsheet of all my rides. Distance. Power consumption. Trails.

[@richp5285]

Thank you so much for reviewing the Rocky Mountain power play 4.0! I just bought a RM pp Fusion 30 on closeout. I know a hard tail, but I'm a newbie and I'm not doing any technical stuff. Everything is about the Ramblas on this side of the pond. Nothing out there about the Fusion and little about the RM pp 4.0. I'm watching your series that includes RM pp 4.0 too and it is vey informative also. Cheers Rich

[@sjaan7370]

Looking forward to your review on the RM Instinct PP 😎

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks bro it’s coming soon

[@TheLastMoccasin]

@@SamsBikes Good, I need something to show the wife to let me buy one 🤣🤣

[@robrider838]

I’ll give you a 2 year long term review. The bike totally rocks! The range on this bike is going to be very different eco -2 compared to ludicrous +2. What mode and setting were you in? I tend to ride 0 and trail, and get about the same range as you did.

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks mate and yes I was in +2 and your right -2 would change the range a lot

[@hudsonisbetter]

@@SamsBikesnice so if you were in eco range would prop be double!

[@heywood165]

I’ve managed 40 miles + on my Altitude during a days ride (almost 5k ft of climbing) and had around 25% battery remaining. I don’t think I used Ludicrous mode a lot as it makes a huge impact on battery consumption compared with Trail+ mode. Mine is the aluminium model, so I don’t know if there’s a huge difference between it and the carbon version, but weight of the bike must make a slight difference.

[@robertgifford1678]

I can get about 35 miles and 4000 feet of climbing on a ver3 Altitude power play. I just got a C90 Ver4 with the 720watt battery. I have not given it a real long ride because its been broken most of the time I have had it. Rocky has poor customer service. I can't seem to get it fixed at the dealer. Pretty disappointed in the current situation. I just retired and wanted a nice bike. I got a problem child that Rocky is ignoring.

[@PabloOlea59]

That’s really an interesting option out there. I’m not a fan of the color scheme, but the bike looks amazing.

[@hudsonisbetter]

Cmon man the choco banana is sick

[@garyrolley3559]

I have heard that the bike has an amount of rolling resistance when the battery is drained. Was that noticeable or can you ride home on 0%.

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Gary thanks for the question, from my testing the Rocky and the Bosch Race are the most powerful and fastest under ful load but they both always have the most drag when the motor is off, it’s definitely not bad but you can’t have it all!

[@siriosstar4789]

or use the two battery method . take an extra battery in panniers and ride until the first battery drops to say five or ten percent . then change batteries and ride back . this of course requires that you ride on equal ups and downs both ways or do your climbing on the first battery . that way you will be using less of the second battery on your return trip guaranteeing you make it back .

[@robrider838]

Who puts panniers on a mountain bike?

[@heywood165]

I’ve just been looking at the price of the Overtime 2.0 pack for the Powerplay bikes. Prices are currently between £500 and £750 in the UK with a 720 replacement battery costing €1399. Don’t know what happened with prices, I’m sure the 720 was £500 and Overtime pack £300 back in 2022 when I bought my Altitude.

[@siriosstar4789]

@hey- Yikes , at those prices my idea stinks .

[@heywood165]

@@siriosstar4789 Yes, the prices are insane. Luckily the range on the 720 battery is good enough for a decent day’s ride. As long as you don’t use Ludicrous all the time most people will get 40+ miles out of the battery.

[@jimross898]

@@heywood165 Overtime pack is $444 CAD right now. I bought one. If the main battery had been on sale, I would have bought that but honestly, after burning 1036 angry pixies, I'm done.

[@hudsonisbetter]

So after using the bike in +2 power mode rather than 0 does it feel more like the other motors such as the ep8 and bosch cx, where you pedal and go or do still need a higher rpm?

[@hudsonisbetter]

Hey Sam I saw that your previous Rocky Mountain range tests was on the lower mode is the range test on the +2 mode for the rocky mountain bikes for better torque and calibration.

[@SamsBikes]

Hey mate all bikes in the range test where put in the highest assistance so yes the Rocky Mountain was put in +2 and yes plus +2 will use more battery 🔋 maybe check out a range test I did a few years ago on the Rocky that was at 0

[@hudsonisbetter]

@@SamsBikes nice mate, thats some shocker range!

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I live in a mountain range when I had the turbo levo I knew I could climb up my favorite trail twice at full power. When I rent ebikes in places I don't know I'm always worried 😅

[@SamsBikes]

Totally understand all e-bikes are different

[@hassebir]

Please get tour hands on the Pinion MGU. Its all i want for my next ebike and your opinion really matters! :)

[@SamsBikes]

Did you see my review of the Rotwild?

[@hassebir]

@@SamsBikes Have now thank you!

[@andreiilin]

Thank you Sam! Can you feel that extra torque compare to other bikes like specialized for example?

[@SamsBikes]

Yes you can, definitely the Rocky likes and needs to be high cadence to feel the full power but it’s bloody powerful

[@hudsonisbetter]

I LOVE THE BIKE

[@mattcgtx4809]

I hear you about the vert feet climbed Question If you climb 3000 feet and descend 3000 would that be about the same as flat ground since the 3000 feet down would use very little battery???

[@SamsBikes]

If you ride on the flat you will use a lot less like driving a car on the flat our in the alps

[@boblatkey7160]

G2 specialized turbo levo, 42 miles and 5400 feet of elevation gain.

[@SamsBikes]

Fantastic

[@user-yu1pm9vj8j]

I charge my emtb with a 500 wh battery daily. But it's for daily commuting and it's speed is boosted to 42kph

[@hudsonisbetter]

Nice I would say 500 wh is small I have 504 wh bike and I got 2 batteries for more range. The other is in my backpack

[@streddaz]

Realistically, you’re legs are the limiting factor for range. When someone asks what the range is on my Ebike, I say it’s whatever I can get out of my legs.

[@SamsBikes]

Totally agree

[@michaeltiffe6341]

Interesting but I would disagree. One element missing in the video is rider weight. Need to understand the impact on battery capacity. Myself, I am 57 and 230 lbs. Last March during a week long bike trip we rode at Ride Kanuga for of the 2 days. Each day was basically 1200 m of climbing and 32 kms pedalling up. An Ebike still seems to be a limiting factor on a full day of riding if it is done after approx 1600 m. I want more riding not the same amount in less time, I am away and the only thing on the agenda is riding for the full day for 5-7 days straight. We pedalled over 5000 m up that week, had a bit of a rest lift day there in the beginning of the trip on day 2. So the question is do I need 2 or 3 batteries each day?

[@streddaz]

@@michaeltiffe6341 if you still have strength in your legs, you can keep peddling, regardless if you have any charge in your battery. What Sam was doing was stopping as soon as the battery died, but if he wanted to he could have kept peddling. Rider weight does make a difference to the range, but as long as you are testing each bike with the same rider, the results will be reasonably consistent.

[@michaeltiffe6341]

@@streddaz rider weight being provided is a valuable piece of readily available information in my opinion as I am not only looking for a comparison from bike to bike but also the overall value of e-bikes in general. If the range diminishes to a point of being unviable for prolonged usage then the increased cost and maintenance aspects of a e-bike outweigh the benefits. The more information the better for the decision process

[@ptrgmx7396]

Not sure if you said it in another video but which mode are you using on all motor systems for your tests? Most powerful one?

[@hudsonisbetter]

Yeah he’s in most powerful

[@jeremybub]

@sambikes 2 months later and no long term review?

[@hudsonisbetter]

What power mode was this on?

[@SamsBikes]

Top so most power possible

[@hudsonisbetter]

@@SamsBikesalright thanks

[@Muddymarry]

I‘m looking forward to the next generation Dyname 5.0. In times, were such tiny motors like ZF and DJI were dropped, Dyname 4.0 looks just outdated. will devenitely not buy one.

[@hudsonisbetter]

Bro what?😊

[@jbdbsb]

Oh look, another range test. Extreme range in Boost is an oxymoron.

[@SamsBikes]

I’ll try harder next time just for you legend

[@jbdbsb]

@@SamsBikes 😁🤣😂😅

[@Nein_doch_oooh]

Just to make sure, this bike is called: Rocky Mountain Instinct Powerplay C70 Shimano. Please inform yourself, before you write it on KZbin, also it's SchwalbE and not Schwalbi! I mean, they sponsor you, it would be nice, if you could pronounce it correctly!

[@streddaz]

What a pedantic comment, it’s still a Rocky Mountain Instinct Powerplay. And you are pronouncing Schwalbe incorrectly, so it would be nice if YOU pronounced it correctly. 🙄 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5nXd6p7mLOYj8Usi=DA4zwn3K6W3WPmr7

[@Brunzbuschn]

😂😂😂 You are so right! This dude is hilarious!

[@streddaz]

It still is a Rocky Mountain Instinct Powerplay, he’s not incorrect just because he didn’t say the full model. Also SchwalbE is also the incorrect pronunciation. It’s pronounced, “schwal.ba” You don’t hear the E at all. You would think if you were correcting someone on pronunciation, you would get it right.😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJLNpZulptekobcsi=5wM1uTTdz3r0nuyS

[@SamsBikes]

Haha I know relax mate

[@michaeltiffe6341]

⁠@@streddazhuh? That ba is how one says e in German. Therefore in English it would be utilized as a sound of e

[@GoldenTroutBFS]

That's one ugly bike!

[@Rideoak]

👍

[@TapioBlue]

I get about 1 km per % battery on 32% boost on my Altitude. So up to 100 km per charge. I ride my 10 km technical trail up to 7 times on a charge. The bms drains the battery more than I like if it sits any length of time. I read the Overtime pack has to be charged often just to keep a charge on it even when not used. I just got one on the half price sale but haven't used it yet.