I didn't expect to be proven that free will is an illusion on a Hardleg Umi deck video. 10/10 with rice
@grassynaga9092 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a matter of free will. It’s a matter of the deck auto piloting. The deck kinda plays itself and you have very little decision making to actually do.
@maxmustermann55902 жыл бұрын
Just as I couldnt take my hardleg ladder climb withdrawal anymore this video dropped, Hardleg truly does provide
@SerechII2 жыл бұрын
58:00 that bit and that transition are so good lol Cvit is by far my fav editor in the whole yugitubing community, no weird zoom-ins, no over the top edits, no unnecessary messing with the audio, no self inserts that stop the video, really just nice, clean editing
@quacksayssquawk28992 жыл бұрын
Common Dire L
@SerechII2 жыл бұрын
@S V I don't wanna throw shade, most editors are fine for what they do even if rough around the edges but yeah, I got a couple series ruined by horrible out of place editing every 5 seconds like the viewer has that long of an attention span *cough cough* Junior Journey *cough cough*
@12thLevelSithLord2 жыл бұрын
@@SerechII If you think Junior Journey editing is bad, watch Broke Boy. It is *constant* key jingling.
@skeletonwar44452 жыл бұрын
Eh, i like both styles at different times. Sometimes I wanna have a clean, calm edit. Sometimes I wanna have zoom-ins, audo distortions and other shit.
@starbomber2 жыл бұрын
1:30:00 This duel doesn't answer the question "Does Hardleg have Free Will" but it does pose the question, "If master duel players have Free Will, will they make the *wrong* decision" and the answer is, *yes, yes they will*
@HalfTimeLazer2 жыл бұрын
the laugh of pure, manic joy at the end was fantastic
@ananatasheshagodoftherepti88992 жыл бұрын
10:14 HOLY SHIT I DIDN'T KNOW HARDLEG WAS SO GOOD AT SINGING! HE SOUNDS SO GOOD!!
@SerechII2 жыл бұрын
He is a legit singer, idk how long you've been following but his videos always had his acapella music sprinkled in and it's been always so good
@DimkaSulegnaa2 жыл бұрын
hardleg has some amazing singing bits in older epsidoes, it’s a sshame we don’t see it too often but it’s a treat every time it comes up
@DimkaSulegnaa2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much every clip with unending nightmare was amazing lol and that ending was awesome
@NerdySatyr2 жыл бұрын
Ever since the start of the game, Umi and Stealth Sea Attack has been my favourite archetype, so it's really nice to see it still active today!
@blastfire212 жыл бұрын
I think alternating between bad decks, outdated decks, and new but overshadowed decks is a good direction for the series. As long as it is not a real top tier deck I think they will be fun. Great episode.
@themobilewriter2 жыл бұрын
Hardleg has such a nice singing voice i would legitimately listen to a hardleg ocean man cover
@Tudsamfa2 жыл бұрын
I am 3/4 through the video, I saw the bubble transitions coming 1.609 km away, but I was surprised to learn that the nightmare is unending.
@yurei37142 жыл бұрын
Ocean man take joe by the hand take him to the land where he understands
@CoralPallet2 жыл бұрын
Duel 153 Vs Zombie Floodgates. It was so satisfying seeing undending nightmare work. God that was a great stream!
@DeadmanPauli2 жыл бұрын
The laugh at the end, is Close to crazy and joyful Love it :D
@chaosbug72 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on getting Umi & friends to Diamond 1. Some of those duels looked extremely rough if they were able to deal with the lockdown. Gotta say though, Unending Nightmare is definitely the unsung hero of this climb for sure.
@_Shikabane_2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Cvit who always makes some banger edits to these videos.
@LilMarine7182 жыл бұрын
As a new player, I randomly chose Umi as my first deck, very fun and strong to play
@farbencut2 жыл бұрын
I love this monthly series, I hope it never ends :)))
@toothpastetube78432 жыл бұрын
This is pretty cruel but I’m loving the new Umi control decks. Not because I’m playing them, but because Sharks runs only Water monsters
@HardlegGaming2 жыл бұрын
lol
@ashikjaman19402 жыл бұрын
Sharks gets fucked over by Legendary Ocean though
@toothpastetube78432 жыл бұрын
@@ashikjaman1940 funnily enough, since Lantern and Buzzsaw count as 3/5 for Xyz, and Abyss and Crystal count as 3/4 and become level 4 anyway, not really
@ashikjaman19402 жыл бұрын
@@toothpastetube7843 you're not going to draw them against Umi though lol
@toothpastetube78432 жыл бұрын
@@ashikjaman1940 I run three of each though? They’re kinda the best starters in the deck. Plus, Buzzsaw searches Lantern, Abyss searches any of em, and Abyss and Crystal are super good extenders
@SproingBoing2 жыл бұрын
This deck is literally "If Sea Stealth Attack was so good, then why isn't there a Sea Stealth II?" Also... Jelly fishing, Jelly Fishing, Jelly Fishing!
@MarioLopez-xs3vc2 жыл бұрын
Man, I'd really like to see what a Hardleg ladder climb with Labrynth would look like. That's a deck that can run a ton of builds that might work better or worse at different points in the ladder. Playing Tenyis without immediately going into Swordsoul could also be interesting, as those have synergy with both the other Wyrm stuff and non-effect monsters.
@HardlegGaming2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to try it. Only time will tell if the Patrons actually vote for it though.
@aal18892 жыл бұрын
I can't help but feel that the free-will discussion might have worked better with a deck that actually involves more decision-making outside of deck building. Maybe a topic to come back to, should you play say a more involved control deck for a future ladder climb. Until then, continue being existential Hardleg. Anyway, always nice when a new episode drops, I really enjoy seeing how the decks change between iterations. These are always a nice watch/listen, especially when they involve unexpected topics.
@HardlegGaming2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the opposite is true. In order to test for luck, you need to have as few other variables in play as possible. If you're playing a complicated control deck, and lose after you make 10 decisions, it's hard to tell if you lost because of your starting hand, or because one of your 10 decisions was wrong. It's possible you lost the moment you drew your starting hand, but it's also possible that the game was winnable, and your decisions lost it for you. It's impossible to tell unless you have perfect knowledge of the game state. When you play a deck like Umi Control though, where there are almost no decisions, then it becomes clear if the starting conditions determined the outcome, because there's no player input to mess with your results.
@aal18892 жыл бұрын
@@HardlegGaming I see, that is a good point. But couldn't the original hypothesis already be flawed? Here luck was measured as opening hand iirc. But beside luck, isn't that already influenced by deck building which I'd consider a free will decision? For example, your decision to run 41 cards including 3 Solemn should make it more likely to open a Solemn over a starter where as your decision to run 4 pots should make it more likely to turn your opening hand into something playable. So I feel that the way we measure the luck variable (as opening hands) is not entirely independent from the decision variable. Now of course we don't know whether correlation is even gonna be a major problem without any proper data. ...okay I don't even know why I decided to type this out and eventually this will end in someone doing a regression analysis. Nobody wants math! Free will is a lie and typing this was caused by brain parasites!
@netcat222 жыл бұрын
You never ever fail to be entertaining, this was absolutely incredible.
@KuroeNezumi2 жыл бұрын
1:09:20 I noticed, and I appreciate you changed it to day 2. With how long these go on for at times, it's nice to know which session you've been in to understand a bit more of how you're playing and what's the context for deck changes and the like.
@julianleverton70452 жыл бұрын
As someone who's spent more than a few hours dreaming up Legendary Fisherman support, I'm expecting to enjoy this.
@treejai14572 жыл бұрын
This is my first time watching HardLeg and I have no idea where he’s been all my life 😭🤧 I love Umi control so I’m glad this was my first video of his !!
@Slingyman32 жыл бұрын
what a ride so glad you made it all the way and got to diamond one, great video!
@GatsbyCioffi2 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays this deck a bunch, I've really grown to love Pacifis over A Legendary Ocean. Yeah, it's a bit harder to search, but those tokens are really valuable. Plus, you get to play Phantasm Spiral Power, a searchable Imperm! Also, SSA+Pacifis, for whatever reason, is really hard for Despia to break down, haha.
@christianwright75812 жыл бұрын
Got a deck list of that?
@lyndismoto2 жыл бұрын
i think the fact taht pacifis mandatory search will still go off after running out of targets will never not be funny to me
@GatsbyCioffi2 жыл бұрын
@Christian Wright Right now the deck list is 1 Phantasm Spiral Dragon 3 Kairyu-Shin 3 Electric Jellyfish 2 Doom Kraken 1 Mega Fortress Whale 1 Icejade Tremora (Good Synergy with Ice Barrier, and can unbrick you if you draw a big water monster) 1 Legendary Fisherman II 1 Legendary Fisherman III (You can totally cut the Fishermen, as they get walled pretty bad by Despia and Floo, but some decks like Dinomorph and I think Labrynth don't really have many answers to it.) 3 Maxx C 2 Warrior of Atlantis Spells: 1 Terraforming 2 Pacifis 1 A Legendary Ocean 1 Sea Stealth II 1 Rage of Kairyu-Shin 3 Pot of Extravagance 3 Foolish Burial Goods 3 Fish Sonar Traps: 2 Sea Stealth Attack 2 Ice Barrier 1 Phantasm Spiral Power 1 Kairyu-Shin's Dark Reef Extra Deck: Whatever you want, really. Just toss in a Bahamut Shark and a Toadally Awesome if you have it, cause that comes up sometimes.
@Bulletproofbouchy2 жыл бұрын
@@GatsbyCioffi have you concidered droping one of the doom krakens for a pot of properity or a foolish burial goods
@krystallinekris Жыл бұрын
Jolly Roger Bay is one of my favourite Mario songs. So peaceful and beautiful and the remix you used is equally so. Also the Unending Nightmare bit made me laugh more than once.
@tumage8592 Жыл бұрын
53:38 nooo not the ultra-rare fortress whale
@PlaguevonKarma Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect Hardleg to have a singing voice but that ocean man bit kinda banged
@metalfoxhound2 жыл бұрын
This was so entertaining to watch. Behold the power of the feeeesh!!!!
@SakuraAvalon2 жыл бұрын
I love the naming in this game. Ocean Dragon Lord Kairyu-Shin Or 'Ocean Dragon Lord Ocean Dragon Lord' if you translate 'Kairyushin'
@lefthandedscout9923 Жыл бұрын
1:26:00 can we appreciate this player that went second and still did the FTK line pretending that they didn't have a battle phase
@IrrelevantOaf2 жыл бұрын
Unending nightmare is such a underrated beautiful card. Well done Joe.
@ashikjaman19402 жыл бұрын
honestly after some of those duels I'm considering just slapping it onto some of my decks Or at least would if Maxx C didn't exist
@xCorvus7x2 жыл бұрын
4:43 Leafplace Plaice looks as if some one had drawn a doodle of a fish on a table napkin, scanned it, and added some details and colours.
2 жыл бұрын
Mako sure grew a great beard at sea! Jokes aside, this is the kind of legacy support that's nice to see. This'll be a fun episode.
@KuroeNezumi2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe for reminding me why getting to Diamond 1 is something I never ever wish to do: there won't be anything but pain and agony because birds and out of nowhere numeron and eldlich fester on its surroundings. Branded at least is more interactive than them.
@ashikjaman19402 жыл бұрын
Well Barrier Statue is shadow realmed now so at least that's gone
@maxmustermann55902 жыл бұрын
I think you just do both janky and competetive episodes! Just throw in a serious episode like this once in a while, play something meta and be serious from the start, but definitly keep some goofy episodes
@choji002cc2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ideas, I have a pretty good version of this deck before I saw your video and this helped fix some issues I was having of updating my childhood deck.
@9876bbb Жыл бұрын
When people think of what a yugioh player looks like, this is it
@HardlegGaming Жыл бұрын
Is it? I imagine they'd think of someone with bigger, more silly, anime hair.
@kaitai73022 жыл бұрын
Looks like the One Piece was real after all. Congrats Joe on making it to Diamond 1.
@AJewBag892 жыл бұрын
Thanks, joe I'm going to have ocean man stuck in my head for the rest of December...anyway great video.
@MarioLopez-xs3vc2 жыл бұрын
Yay floodgates. And ones that use actual WATER for once! I'd normally puke at this egregious display of Stun strats, but they way it's done in this almost looks tolerable if you understand how it works enough to deal with it. Though more importantly was how entertaining the pack pulling was. Ocean Man indeed.
@ac-t21522 жыл бұрын
The joy on your face when you made it to diamond one was exactly what it's like after having to grind lol..Nice one Joe good gaming 👍
@uaeoaeoeoi2 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, it may be a good choice to run a non-water kaiju in this deck so that you can clog up the non-water summon while kairyu shin is on the field at least for main phase one given that they can crash it during the battle phase.
@Landgraf432 жыл бұрын
The reason you run the water kaiju specifically is because you can search it. A non water kaiju is too inconsistent to use.
@HardlegGaming2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Kaijus are a good inclusion in this deck. Just a bit too bricky. The only reason we play the one Gamaciel is because it's searchable with Ice Barrier if you happen to go up against something like @ignister.
@olyviermonteau43002 жыл бұрын
man's having too much fun, by depriving him of fun. never thought something would be a fun, but it's fun, how fun...
@jaythephoenix2 жыл бұрын
"Okay, I activate my free will." "Ash" "...why did that work?"
@benjaminehren79652 жыл бұрын
Dang this is some incredible editing in the intro alone.
@Ragnarok5402 жыл бұрын
Apparently this has synergy with swordsoul tenyi and pacifis, I saw someone playing a version that didn't depend that much on the floodgate effect of kairyu shin.
@squelto2 жыл бұрын
YES I've been waiting for this all December!
@XTempestBuster2 жыл бұрын
My lord... it's THE ocean man!!
@elin1112 жыл бұрын
There must be some deep philosophical commentary on society that the floodgate deck is the one that did it.
@DeathByDunsparce2 жыл бұрын
Man hardleg I really apprrciate you breaking even on a youtube channel! Its how we know you really do this because you love it and arent in it for the money!
@kmk45042 жыл бұрын
I did not know hardleg could sing
@userzero65552 жыл бұрын
Evil Joe be like:"hahaha I play good deck!"
@BeardMax942 жыл бұрын
I literally just finished an Umi control deck the other day and have been beefing it in the Duelists Cup. I'll be happy to see one of my fave yugi tubers take it as high as possible!
@logandaley1544 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised it was this deck that made you question free will and other existential questions and not the madness that was Ojamas.
@claudio63912 жыл бұрын
Truly an oceanic task and umiazing success. I tip my hat off to you, good sir!
@matija57482 жыл бұрын
It's finally out. Wish I could watch these live but different time zones make that impossible
@XxP4P4D0CxX Жыл бұрын
Hey Joe congrats, I use umi control and you didn't use the whale to its full potential. When it's destroyed by battle or card effect you can summon a lv 7 or lower warrior water monster to the field or add it to your hand. From my experience you can either use it to summon legendary fisherman 2, and when it's destroyed get legendary fisherman 3. Or you can summon General raiho of the ice barrier. If he gets destroyed, you can just keep cycling between the whale and raiho as long as you have sea stealth 2. Raiho makes it where you opponent has to discard a card to activate monster effects on the field otherwise its negated, and its not once per turn.
@DruoxTheShredder2 жыл бұрын
I really wanna see Hardleg use infernity climb ranked, mostly so I can learn the deck vicariously. lol
@steelblake2 жыл бұрын
My man finally did it. Proud of you son
@query28742 жыл бұрын
oh how i love these ladder climb vids
@query28742 жыл бұрын
WHEN THE NIGHTMARE IS UNENDING
@AZ-rl7pg2 жыл бұрын
I don't really see Kairyu-Shin as a traditional monster floodgate, like VFD for example, because by itself it doesn't do anything aside from searching making Umi Control a pretty balanced deck. I mean it leaves so many ways to counter it since Jellyfish is typically your only negate all your opponent has to do is remove Umi (preferably via non-destruction). Also leave Leafplace Plaice alone! He's trying his best.
@joedouglas6968 Жыл бұрын
I had never seen the kairu shin monster before even in decks where I'd seen sea stealth attack and stuff, this makes me see why I have never seen some of these cards haha
@iimasheriiol2222 жыл бұрын
Damn you can sing man
@Ace88Sama Жыл бұрын
I main this deck irl and in master duel. This video made me buy 18 copies of Unending Nightmare. Thanks for the spicy tech option!
@NawDawgTheRazor2 жыл бұрын
This beautiful man and his beautiful shirts and words.
@discombobulator112 жыл бұрын
u could try to climb with predaplants now that they have more support
@zuleanservant2 жыл бұрын
Me sober enjoys the duels. Me drunk just listens to fun dire dire docks moo-zeek!
@kevintran32852 жыл бұрын
I like umi control mainly because it is the only floodgate control deck that is actually balance. The combos are simple and it's easy to stop the floodgate if you out the kiryu-shin. Which is easy with a meta that has kaijus, skill drain, imperm and that stupid floowandereeze spell card.
@kurvitz2 жыл бұрын
the number one hard leg in the business.
@PrecursorIdeliron2 жыл бұрын
I went in expecting Audi a control, a fun time to be had by all! I am now dealing with the philosophical debate of free will via Master Duel. Only HardLeg, baby.
@jared302 жыл бұрын
I love fish sonar. Some may not, i however, do.
@SerechII2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the lack of interactions and decisions "lack of free will", I'd just call it bad game design but not having free will does sound pretty ominous lol
@Patty-Q2 жыл бұрын
What an absolute wild ride, but you made it to the top!
@Excellsion2 жыл бұрын
4:22 Poor fish, be nice.
@tobytrooper39282 жыл бұрын
HE’LL TEACH *YOU* TO STAY OUT OF THE WATERS.
@normanstorm89282 жыл бұрын
I believe, your "free will" is determined by your preparation. I dont know if there is a "go second" deck version of umi control, but i am sure, there is a way to optimize this deck or use it as an engine to go into more serious stuff, whenever the situation demands it to. So in the perspective of oneself being in an certain situation, the free will seems not apparent. For me, an mtg player, free will is what determines most of the matches, because decisions and reading your enemy is what mostly determines the outcome of an game (when both have the same financial conditions to play under).
@Sealbinder2 жыл бұрын
Umi Control. The more I play YGO, the more I realize I am a wonderful person who enjoys floodgates. The biggest problem YGO players have is playing YGO. Decks like Umi Control, help solve the problem, by not allowing your opponent to play YGO. You are helping to solve the addiction that too many members of the community suffer from. Keep doing such good work to help the YGO community stop suffering under the yoke of YGO.
@Sealbinder2 жыл бұрын
Regarding your concern with free will and existential dread, you have to change your view of the world. If I can spend the duel chuckling like a Bond villain, while my wife looks on wondering if I have lost my mind I know I have done a good job. If I spend the duel ruminating how my plans have been foiled, it stinks, but the thought of chuckling maniacally in the future drives me onward. Remember it is all for a good purpose, to stop others from suffering from playing YGO.
@dragonmaster9517532 жыл бұрын
That gravekeepee deck was actually another youtuber lol. He oddly enough was recommended when this video came out and is card for card the same as you shown
@silverstar6589 Жыл бұрын
It's kind of crazy that this deck disappeared from the face of the Earth. Good since it's a floodgate deck but still.
@pepperoni66162 жыл бұрын
"what is this, Japanese Duellogs?" The master of jank gimmick decks has many students, it seems
@nemo00362 жыл бұрын
Would've kept Sea Stealth Attack at 3. Really protects backrow and monsters when needed, and recurs your "Umi" from GY. Also some interesting interactions with Foolish Burial Goods. Warrior of Atlantis at 2, since 3 can get bricky. Sea Stealth II at 2, since you need as many "Umi" as you could get. Ice Barrier at 2 because lol. Also pairs well with Icejade Tremora... 2x Icejade Tremora for when you brick, or when your Physalia gets negated but need to summon Ocean King. ALSO, an Ice Barrier target.
@PyckledNyk2 ай бұрын
I think the conclusions about free will you can make are strictly in regards to YuGiOh. Like you asserted at the front, I think in YuGiOh there isn’t a lot of free will, mainly due to bad hands, going second disadvantage, the coin toss itself, and I’m sure other factors that I didn’t mention. Because of that, YuGiOh can feel very limiting. However, I do believe free will does exist as a concept, or else I think there would be a lot less diversity of human choices.
@jamie-heyn2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this Video
@nytecrow64522 жыл бұрын
Honestly, mad props to the Valyantz player in Diamond 2 xD
@streetgamer34522 жыл бұрын
I did not expect to see free will be tested in this video.
@ariannadravis39342 жыл бұрын
Simple answer to if free will exists or not: I could stop watching this video. The end
@ENCHANTMEN_ Жыл бұрын
Can't believe he's teaching the fish to TCBOO
@peekay120 Жыл бұрын
I am a real sucker for water archetypes so umi control is one of my new favourite decks, but i gotta say, it also combines with one of my favourite archetypes of all time, Swordsoul, pretty well. also, the sheer number of players who have no idea what the second effect of Sea Stealth Attack is will always make me laugh
@gastaar15322 жыл бұрын
I would jump on uncharted waters with you as my captain, if you catch my drift.
@kayvonabbaszadeh2 жыл бұрын
Icejade Agergine , Icejade Eriosion, Icejade cradle, Abyss shark, and Crstal shark will make the deck MUCH better
@theworstthing46132 жыл бұрын
Joe honestly I would love to hear you sing more your voice is so good
@LZJunior2 жыл бұрын
I was very lucky with this pack, I got 3 kairyu shin in the first 10 boosters I opened.
@Vidurange2 жыл бұрын
What have you done Joe! You were supposed to destroy the floodgates, not become them...
@HardlegGaming2 жыл бұрын
I did both, once I got Unending Nightmare in my deck.
@rastafari2k32 жыл бұрын
The boat won me a lot of duels, because of the direct attack effect. Not using anything for when it pops, though. Tried it, but it rarely comes up
@samlee57742 жыл бұрын
I'm only 30 minutes in, but I hope Joe's strong confidence in Umi Control doesn't become a "punished for his hubris" situation.....