How Fred & George Figured Out The Marauder’s Map | Harry Potter Theory

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[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

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[@sreehithas1225]

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[@thunderhunter4391]

Oi, are you going to do anything with the Percy Jackson fandom????

[@kiminimuchu__]

Personally my head-canon is that it went something like this: Fred: "hello, are you hiding any secrets?" Map: "how did you find me?" George: "oh, we nicked you form Filtch's office" Map: "so you mean you are up to no good?" Fred: "most certainly" Map: "do you swear by it?" George: "solemnly swear!" Map: "then say the full sentence, please" Fred & George: "I solemnly swear I am up to no good" and... bingo!

[@attchdflee9699]

you know what? it make sense

[@mercyMEJ]

Same.

[@jawstrock2215]

I would say something similar, the map told them because.. well they were worthy successors.

[@rubygracemoseley8144]

I solemnly swear that this is my wish for how they found the map! 😂😂

[@gabriellereed5108]

I love it

[@christopherjohnson2234]

Honestly, I stand by the fact that Fred and George are the most gifted wizards we meet as students in the series. They were figuring all kinds of potions and spells for their joke shop that was beyond what anyone else does.

[@JosephDavies]

They really are.

[@Noclevernameshere]

we do see Voldemort and Harry as a student so i would give them third

[@dajax1996]

@@Noclevernameshere harry wasnt that gifted though. He was mediocre at most things but excelled at dada

[@oberonmcclinchie8534]

@@dajax1996 well that isn’t really his point. Harry ,Fred and George have amazing practical magic. Not very ‘exam smart’. But if you are saying the exam smart people are the smartest, then it goes to like Percy 😂🤮. And Barty crouch

[@dajax1996]

@@oberonmcclinchie8534 still i wouldnt call harry gifted. He has heart yes, he has courage yes, but he is also the luckiest wizard of the series.

[@futbol_rolf9624]

I always thought the map senses they were seriously up to mischief so it helped them figured it out

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

I think you are probably right! It certainly had no trouble identifying Snape!

[@cheryldk]

Yes. The map also talks back to Snape.

[@charleybartelmay5469]

JK Rowling said that somewhere. Movieflame explained it in The Life of Fred and George video on his channel

[@PhilBagels]

@@SuperCarlinBrothers The map would have asked them (in writing), "Do you solemnly swear that you are up to no good?"

[@sequichie92]

@@PhilBagels you beat me to it lol

[@AwesomeGuy123]

It’s actually confirmed by Rowling that Fred and George tried to say anything to unlock it and the Map knowing they were true troublemakers gave them signs that they were getting closer to the phrase, one of the only reasonable things Rowling has revealed after the series.

[@Ranger1812]

The only dumb thing Rowling has said after the series' end is that Hermione wasn't written as white (not that a black actress playing her is an issue).

[@AwesomeGuy123]

@@Ranger1812 Yep, especially since Hermione was described as white multiple times in the books.

[@Ranger1812]

@@AwesomeGuy123 One of my points was that the other things she has said weren't dumb. Hermione was never outright described as white like Angelina Johnson was black, but it's mentioned a few times: when it says "Hermione's white face" it means the colour had strained from her face (likely from shock, I don't know the context) but of course that does mean she's white or Rowling would have written "Hermione's face had gone pale from shock and was sticking out from behind a tree" or something like that; Molly said that Hermione with a black eye resembled a panda and of course that means that she has white skin juxtaposed with a black eye; and Harry said Hermione looked tanned after returning from holiday, and although black people tan it isn't as obvious as with white people and Rowling definitely wouldn't have written a black person as "looking tanned".

[@bricknolty5478]

@@Ranger1812 she has said LOTS of dumb things after the books were published lol

[@Ranger1812]

@@bricknolty5478 The only one is that Hermione was never written as white. That's it.

[@yeyerunaway]

I like to think that Fred and George asked Peeves if he knew anything about a map inside Filch's office, and that for some reason Peeves said yes and told them the password because he heard the marauders do it once. I mean, Peeves called Remus "Moony", he obviously knew how the marauders behaved around the other

[@sleepinghermit7778]

I believe at some point they directly reference that Peeves sometimes helped the Marauders pull their mischief around the castle.

[@betka5791]

@@sleepinghermit7778 makes sense, they have similar intentions: prank people and annoy filch

[@howHumam]

Peeves is theorized to be conjured from mischievous desires of Hogwarts students. There's a lot said about how much he is disliked, but what about students like the marauders? He probably pranked them, they pranked him, and that's the essence of why he is... And why nothing can get rid of him cuz you can't get rid of the students.

[@Kevin_Theadore1]

Peeves, fred and George are friends soooo

[@3sdasdafdadfsdaf903]

How would they know it’s a map?

[@WorrisomePi]

I feel like "I solemnly swear I am up to no good" is just something the twins would say on a daily basis.

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

It is basically their approach to life

[@johndavishunt]

@@SuperCarlinBrothers How did u reply 11mins ago and the original comment was made 9mins!?!?!?!?!

[@tristanbrewer4523]

@@johndavishunt that’s just how time works

[@Alex-wi1mx]

@@johndavishunt KZbin derping, on mine OC is 14 min and SCB is 13

[@PhilBagels]

When they first tried to figure out how to use it, the map probably said to them, "Do you solemnly swear that you are up to no good?"

[@deidraleanne]

Just like the elder wand chooses the strongest wizard, the map chooses the biggest troublemakers

[@boredom120]

Perfect 💐💕

[@Firemon6000]

This shall be the case

[@Murdocksmith6]

This!

[@jonttu7116]

The wand doesn't choose the strongest wizard, it's just chooses the one who disarms it from it's current owner

[@Lovinthatmusic06]

@@jonttu7116 that is the case from reading the books but what she is saying is based off of another SCB video

[@rkozakand]

I think that Filch and his cat show up on the map because the marauders needed them to, and added them specifically, regardless of what they are.

[@jonasfilmstudio]

That would make sense!

[@КсенияКавалерчик-т4я]

I am not sure if Filch was working at Hogwarts when the Marauders attended the school...

[@TechnoBoy-yl9hq]

@@КсенияКавалерчик-т4я He was. It was mentioned that Filch took it from them.

[@КсенияКавалерчик-т4я]

Thanks! I forgot it 😅

[@dorottyamartos4068]

Let's just remember the fact, that the Maraduer's Map showed people even under the Invisibility Cloak. Even Death itself couldn't achieve this!

[@insaincaldo]

Well the cloak was intended to specifically hide it's wearer from death, death might not have thought to trace it's wearer. That said, still pretty incredible magic.

[@Danzignan]

You could say it only works when you're *completely* covered. The feet are never covered except if you fly and roll the cloak. Imagine if the floor was transparent and someone from the floor below was to look up. They would see Harry even if he was under the cloak. So it could be why the map could show him.

[@masterpython]

Moody's eye could see through it

[@clarissapappo3049]

Lol I can't help but imagine a young Harry figuring this and rolling around everywhere trying to stay completely covered.

[@Danzignan]

@@clarissapappo3049 I didn't think of it like that! It's so funny x')

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Yep. I appreciated that immensely.

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[@blackheart2728]

What if "I solemnly swear I am up to no good" was just an agreement reached between the twins and the map. The map wanted them to announce their intention to use it, and thats the phrase they decided on xD

[@rubygracemoseley8144]

That could be what happened BUT the Marauders were the ones that made the map so they probably were the ones that came up with it

[@izzieluv]

Interesting. So are you suggesting that maybe the Marauder's had a different password? And the map recognizing Fred and George for the troublemakers that they were had them create their own password?

[@thomasmiller8289]

Yep I have thought this as well!

[@borjagarcia-conde8277]

That doesn´t explain why Lupin used it when he took it from Harry in the movies. Although I don't remember if in the books Lupin actually says the password.

[@tailsofpearls]

I feel like Lupin does, so I think the answer to that theory is no but I'm not 100% sure.

[@Jin_Kai]

Fred and George were insanely smart. They were constantly creating new things and spells, even if it was for fun pranks. it shows their intelligence and creative thought process, knowing their mischievous nature, it makes sense they would eventually guess the password

[@xddunce]

The map insults Snape in response to trying to read it. If Fred and George can show the consciousness of the map that they're up to no good, it would help them, communicate with them and tell them how to read it.

[@hamilton2861]

The map would probably be like huh these two just took us from filches office?, then the part that's remus would be like... "well they Did flood the lower level of the dungeon", followed by each murauder in the map commenting on excellent technique but bad luck for meeting Mrs norris on the way back to the common room and finally they all agree to help them reak havoc

[@Wyatt_Ali]

Jk rowling told how they figured it out happened. They were trying different things and it was flickering to life as they got closer to “i solemnly swear that im up to no good”

[@jackindigo4219]

@Milan Fillipi most likely peeves likes pranksters/troublemakers

[@JoshuaWillis89]

No one ever acknowledges how Hagrid knows about the Book of Admittance even before he was a professor when even Hermione doesn’t seem to know of its existence. It’s definitely curious that he’s so well informed about it. My headcanon is that Hagrid was horrified to be tasked with delivering Harry to the Dursleys. So Dumbledore told Hagrid about the Book to reassure him that Harry would indeed be returning to the “wizarding world” in due time.

[@raghunathb402]

Or, what if- just spitballing, the book and quill and common knowledge

[@arthurbarbosadelira7505]

Or he didnt know at all. Maybe he wasnt saying literally, but figuratively. Hogwarts educates young wizards, generation by generation of families and Harry is a wizard, AND from a known traditional family, AND, even if his family wasnt, Harry is, by his own account, super known and expected by everyone else. Nothing strange knowing (or expecting) Harry would for sure have a place in school

[@indium59]

Theory Add-On: Maybe Peeves knew the Marauders. The Marauders could have "let" Filch take the map and keep it safely, but given Peeves the job of making sure the next set of good mischief-makers who came to Hogwarts got it. Eventually, Fred and George came along and Peeves found them worthy, so he made sure they got the map.

[@ecrivonlunyx]

OOOH SO PEEVES WAS GIVING THEM A QUEST TO PROVE THEIR MISCHEIVIOUSNESS

[@axelminus]

I haven't thought this through yet, but given that Peeves only ever took an order from F&G I like to think that maybe the marauders also had some sort of respect from him for all the mischief they caused. So what if they revealed the passcode to Peeves so he can pass it on to worthy successors

[@canyounotlookhere]

"Loony Loony Lupin" I don't think so 💀

[@axelminus]

@@canyounotlookhere a fair point 😂 if anyone it was maybe James, and Sirius that he somewhat respected

[@libertyh.9204]

I think that Peeves might have had the same sort of respect for the marauders and might have even helped them with some of their pranks. So when the marauders left Hogwarts they asked Peeves to tell the next worthy mischief-makers how to use the map.

[@garretttuer1342]

That's where I thought this theory was going when Ben brought up Peeves taking orders from Fred and George.

[@blackc1479]

I kinda like this too, brothers in arms as it were

[@hannahmasters8715]

I feel like peeves might have helped them map out Hogwarts because they obviously were up to no good and he liked that because of his mischievous personality.

[@ginnyweasley7911]

Idk in the 3rd book he kept annoying Remus by saying “looney loopy Lupin” and saying that he can’t boss him around

[@Esterferreiradecastro]

Nah i feel like peeves would’ve taken it for himself

[@countvladislausdragulia7414]

‘-and Snape, but let’s face it, that guy’s basically a bat.’ is the absolute best throwaway line of all time.

[@veniceangelidelacruz2988]

The best ever HAHAHAHHA A

[@edayala9171]

Why

[@patriley2607]

Snape would scare Batman.

[@millynolan991]

has anyone noticed how many times (in the book) that snape is compared to a bat?

[@thathsaraamarasinghe6774]

6:58 When Ben said, "in a tower that students never visit." I was like, so of COURSE, the Marauders visited it!

[@EllaIngram]

literally i was thinking if any character says something like "no student has ever done this" "no student has ever gone there" u can bet the marauders did lol, they probably heard a rumour about a forbidden tower and thought it an exciting challenge to try and break into it and discover its secrets without getting caught

[@Fmily]

The Marauders map would have made the first move much more interesting. Just imagine: "Hey Quirrell, why is Voldemort always right behind you?"

[@KevinBenecke]

Would Voldemort even show up on the map?

[@Fmily]

@@KevinBenecke It showed Peter pettigrew as a rat so I think so?

[@Vahapetautus]

@@KevinBeneckeas Tom riddle, the map never lies

[@lukeroberson2115]

To be fair, Voldemort was, by his own description, "less than the meanest ghost." He may not even count by the map's standards.

[@rawdaaljawhary4174]

That's a great point! I like to think he would show up as Tom Riddle and that he and Quirrel would show up as two, conjoined dots.

[@miloc9900]

The scene where Peeves salutes the Weasley twins will always be one of my favourites. He has no respect for anything, but will always stand by fellow mischief-makers! ("It unscrews the other way, McGonagall whispered")

[@shorv]

I solemnly swear Ben's "Hey brother" is getting longer and longer

[@personman1148]

On no he's turning into macho man.

[@malcirhodes3]

@@personman1148 No Avicii.

[@forkwithasuit]

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[@Grimerpr2016]

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....5 days later... eeeeeeeey brother!!! Lol

[@alineneves505]

heeeeeyyyy brotheeeeeerrrr

[@refile1024]

I was always curious if the marauders map would show two harrys and Hermiones back in their third year. Since both the past selves and future selves were in the same area. And Lupin did say he was following them. Did he see a second pair?

[@derpyderp8559]

Holy-

[@Theoutdoorpersona]

Yes there were 2 Harry's and 2 Hermione's. In the book when Snape caught harry in the halls after dark and asked harry about the paper lupin shows up and confiscated the map and was looking it over during that part of the book

[@refile1024]

@@Theoutdoorpersona that was before they went back in time

[@poppyshock]

@@refile1024 Didn't he still have it when they went back in time?

[@refile1024]

@@poppyshock yes. That’s is why I am asking. Could that be the another reason Lupin thought the map wasn’t working. He thought it wasn’t working because he saw peter. But also he was seeing double???

[@katecourageux443]

i thought for a while that it was odd for fred and george to give up the map so willingly in their 5th year, but i think they saw harrys need not only to make mischief, but to protect himself. the map would have helped to protect him from the perceived threat at the time of sirius black, even showing harry a plethora of hiding places should sirius break into the castle again.

[@lindawiebe5929]

Ben literally putting tape over his nose when pretending to be Voldemort, and nobody’s talking about it. 😂 Loved the wedding planner bit, and love your commitment to your craft Carlin Bros!!

[@lindawiebe5929]

5:15

[@jimbobsenpai3082]

I missed that lol thx

[@catherinevo6060]

Yeah, the tape over the nose for the Voldemort bit was great!

[@lkpunk18]

Just learning how to use the marauders map shows that Gred and Forge were too smart for Hogwarts

[@evelynrowenadawn]

Finally, someone got their names right.

[@Benlalonde4]

Noice

[@Ranger1812]

That's not being "too smart for Hogwarts."

[@rageqwit]

i cant believe everyone else is spelling their names wrong!! thank you for spelling it right

[@joshwells3782]

They really are geniuses I think they are at least on par with Percy in intelligence and street smart go along way

[@lharrowing]

There's a scene in one of the books where Harry wanted to use a secret path out of the school, and when he was trying to figure out how to open it, the map showed him the spell to use. I like to think that this is how the map taught Fred and George the revealing and clearing spells for the map.

[@aidoneusm7831]

The marauders map also tracks Mrs. Norris. I think this lends weight to the theory that the map is sentient and capable of sensing other forms of sentience, whatever form they may take (eg animagi, maledictus, poltergists and ghosts).

[@anthonyturner9442]

There's a good fanfiction where the process used to make the map is explained and it says the Marauders placed runes all over the castle in every room and hall that connected to the map and kind of pinged whoever was nearby really interesting story too

[@MerryMoss]

@@anthonyturner9442 Sounds interesting :) what was the fanfic called? And/or where can you find it?

[@anthonyturner9442]

@@MerryMoss great question! It might be percy Jackson and the world of magic. A cross-over but it does mention it in later chapters

[@MerryMoss]

@@anthonyturner9442 Thanks! I'll have a look later ^^

[@anthonyturner9442]

@@MerryMoss no problem it isn't complete yet, but it's plenty long for a couple days of reading.

[@maryvallas772]

Peeves himself, as the manifestation of rule breakers who had a fondness for the twins, could have tipped Fred and George off as to the maps purpose and how to use it.

[@grac3guts]

i like this idea

[@WorldWalker128]

I could believe it. If you love to annoy people but can't be everywhere at once, the next-best thing is being able to be in two other places at once.

[@jefthereaper]

I love the idea of Peeves doing this to spread more chaos by proxy.

[@apxutekctypa]

This. As to how the Map ended up in Filch's office, I tend to believe one of the three OG Marauders (excluding rat of a man, Pettigrew), left it with him deliberately, gave it away, so that Pettigrew and, by proxy, Riddle, could never gain access to it. Map can still track people inside of the castle even if the map is elsewhere outside it. When you search for a person you need to kill, and you know of an artifact that tracks the people within castle grounds, you might get the idea to try and assault Hogwarts to get to this person. Leaving the map within the castle leaves you with no other option that hunt for them elsewhere. Am I making sense?

[@maryvallas772]

@Владислав Григорьев I follow your thinking, but I don't think so. We know Filch confiscated it during their 7th year at Hogwarts, but he didn't know what it was. He just felt it was suspicious. There's no canon to tell us more, but we know that at that time, Peter was still loyal to his friends, and Voldemort wasn't in full power yet.

[@zofifi7549]

My head-canon: Hogwart has some sort of monitoring system, that locates people inside and idetifies them. That way castle "knows" what is happening inside, for instance, who is allowed to give and take points from houses. Notice that nobody had to cast a spell to do it. Four founders created this system but like many things, they leaved this as a secret. And marauder's map was just very cleverly crafted interface that could display data from that system. Still advanced magic but not impossible for group of clever young hackers...imean wizards.

[@sophiejones2334]

I really like this idea cause I feel like it makes more sense for the marauders to connect the map to the school rather than a book and quill locked away that hasn't been touched in 1,000 years.

[@blackc1479]

Lots of good ideas here, but this one would explain how Dumbledore always....knows. He has the "Administrators Map"

[@neuralwarp]

Isn't a wizard just someone who's figured out to hack the universe? And if they're really puissant, they can hack right out of this inception and hack patches into the virtual machine. A Sourceror.

[@zofifi7549]

@@neuralwarp Yeah! I once began to made up a fantasy setting that seems pretty medival-ish but as the strory goes on it slowly turns out to be some kind of matrix, and magic is just wickets and gliches in the system that people have learned how to exploit. Exept absolutly legendary wizards, nobody have idea how it works, they just know it does. And the funny thing is, nobody in this world know what coputer is, so only the readers can notice, what characters are doing is actually hacking.

[@SirTorcharite]

Came for the discussion of overlap between hackers and magicians, left with "puissant" and "wicket" added to my vocabulary.

[@atlachanacha]

One thing I wonder: What would've happen if Harry had told the map he's son of James Potter/Prongs? When Snape told his name while trying to open the map, map started to hurl insults from the marauders towards Snape, so how would map react to someone claiming to be son of one of them?

[@ruthdeckman9781]

That's a very good question! You got me thinking now!

[@roguequakewitch]

Now I’m wondering that too….

[@taylors445]

Imagine if he told them what Peter/wormtail did? I bet that would be an awkward conversation

[@meforever1997]

I always thought that the map hurled insults at snape not bc he was snape but just cuz he was an adult and rude and not giving the password etc

[@45memet]

i also am curios about that

[@EmberWolfsArt]

Since Dumbledore knew about Remus (Padfoot, Wormtail, Prongs and Moony) he probably helped them with the creation of the map (to keep students safe if Remus should not get to the hut in time) - so he linked the map to the sorting-hat: hence it knows every student and the teaches/staff/ghosts etc is already registered as staff- hence the hat knows. Dumbledore is breaking rules when needed. Like giving Hermione permission (without really saying it) to save Sirius and Buckbeak. "Help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who deserve it."

[@ilyyyautumn9446]

This fits pretty well!

[@EmberWolfsArt]

@@ilyyyautumn9446 :D

[@Crackpot_Astronaut]

I thought he mentioned at one point that they managed to keep it a secret from him that they were animagi.

[@EmberWolfsArt]

@@Crackpot_Astronaut I have not read the books enough times to memorize it but then again Dumbledore did not admit to many things. I think he knew- he just dont talk about it or give a hint he did. He has been helping in ways without being there in physical form. I think he also sent Fawkes to help Harry in the Chamber of secrets. But that is just what i read into it. it is very fun to speculate ^^.

[@lukeroberson2115]

Dumbledore himself admitted that he had no clue about the animagus thing until Sirius told him in Prisoner of Azkaban. He was also surprised when Barty Crouch Jr. mentioned Harry had a map of Hogwarts.

[@limettenkuchen]

The Marauders could have also simply added Filch after they realized he didn‘t show up on it. He was propably their biggest problem so they definitely made sure to see him on the map

[@cammiebehrens8667]

They probably noticed that Filch didn’t show up on the map and then had the balls to personally write his name in the Book of Acceptance so that he’d show up. They added Mrs Norris too

[@FiMilton]

Being disabled I’ve always felt like our society’s version of a squib. Squibs are treated terribly because they lack some abilities, it just hits close to home. Squibs, like disabled people are a vital part of communities! Any and all squibs are welcome in the house of Hufflepuff!

[@sit-insforsithis1568]

I agree with you but disabled (a term which I hate ) people aren’t vital to any community

[@FiMilton]

@@sit-insforsithis1568 I disagree. People can be vital to a community without bringing physical abilities to the table, there are other things we can bring. The empathy and compassion of disabled people is unparalleled. Also 26% of people in the US have a disability. Society and communities would not be able to function without a quarter of our population. I have learned to become comfortable calling myself disabled, disabled doesn’t have to be a bad word.

[@sit-insforsithis1568]

@@FiMilton hmm you have a point I think I was wrong. I think i was thinking about it in a wrong way

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[@notapotato5946]

@@sit-insforsithis1568 Holy cow that’s rare. Someone actually admits that someone else has a point! WHAT!

[@jots2493]

My theory is that the marauders map is actually made from either the same magical paper as the book of acceptance or literally a page from the book. This, it is forever connected with it and this is how it stays updated with the students

[@AnoukhHellstream]

That's what i think. The marauders just sneaked into the tower and ripped off a page off the book as it was magical. And made a map with the magical quill in there.

[@lauraclark9201]

I think they used the cloak to hide and switched the ink too!

[@deSolAxe]

If the book and quill can detect and evaluate every newborn in UK, it seems plausible for a page to have limited range - it might be just barely to cover Hogwarts, which might be the actual reason why it is not shown where the secret passages lead to. I mean BC jr. tampered with GoF, so it is not out of question for Marauders to have tampered with single page, even if the book as a whole is very powerful. Screwing around with it shouldn't be as difficult - especially since they are not forcing it to do anything that much out of its original purpose - locating people and recording names. there are just two layers on top of that - one makes the page display the information and the other to hide it from anybody that does not speak the password... Also for the most part I thought that it was hint of sentience from the book that adressed snape - My mental image was that it would be rather elementary intelligence, kinda child-like hence liking the Marauders since they had fun with it, going on various adventures and stuff, but that thing it said to Snape (in book) seems far too specific and in character for the four, so I might be wrong about this one, unless it just spend a lot of time with them, being able to imagine what they would say... or they inserted bit of themselves into it, not really horcrux levels, but the kind of energy or "spirit" that keeps Peeves running...

[@juansf1111]

That's what I was thinking.... Some sort of magical API lol

[@vincentmarcellino7183]

That actually makes a lot of sense. The boys probably snuck in and ripped a piece of the book out and then figured out what to do with it after. Sort of an impulsive prank that they rolled with. Or making it into a map was Lupin's idea("You WHAT? HOW? Nevermind. No point in wasting it. Maybe it could be useful.")

[@BrockSamsonite]

Filch is not a poltergeist only peeves is. The books go to great lengths to describe the appearance of a poltergeist, which is kind of sad because peeves is completely absent from the movies. It would have been nice to see him show up in one of the movies somewhere.

[@bythedead1]

Peeves was played by Rik Mayal, the problem was he made all the kids corpse repeatedly so they cut him. I'd like to see the footage though.

[@nikicarrie4071]

@@bythedead1 he made all the corpse?

[@bythedead1]

@@nikicarrie4071 corpsing is what film and tv people call it when they laugh uncontrollably on camera when they aren't supposed to, so he made all the kids laugh all the time with his antics.

[@nikicarrie4071]

@@bythedead1 ok gotcha ty I went wsyyyyy left with that one 🤣🤣

[@carish1452]

@@bythedead1specifically when they are supposed to be seen and not heard background characters, ie like a corpse.

[@AuthorZaraHoffman]

The tape on Ben’s nose when he pretended to be Voldemort had me 🤣

[@derpyderp8559]

Same

[@elliehindman7448]

I’ll tell you how they did it, Remus is a genius, Sirius and James don’t like rules, and Peter brings them snacks and encourages their combined genius.

[@mmtittle]

sirius and james were geniuses too!!

[@abraham2172]

Sirious amd James were more talented wizards

[@nikkikurlinski7164]

I disagree they had three genius Sirius James and remus . Sirius and James figure out how to make themselves ambiguous in only their 5th year

[@elliehindman7448]

I agree that Sirius and James are both geniuses as well, but they probably weren’t making that map to show their knowledge but instead as a tool to avoid rules

[@etstudios]

Another possibility for the map having Filch on it could simply be that the marauders were there at the same time as him, so they added him to the “tracking list” themselves. Considering he would often be the person they need to actively avoid while sneaking around, this makes quite a bit of sense to me.

[@Mr1991bbk]

It could be considered that the Book/Quill know of non-magical people. Since the book's whole purpose is to know whether someone that the quill wants to write down is magical enough.

[@windhelmguard5295]

@@Mr1991bbk it stands to reason that the quill tried to write filch down, but the book disagreed, there has to be some magic in filch, because otherwise he wouldn't even be able to find hogwarts.

[@meleardil]

In this theory I completely disagree with the brothers. The quill and book uses a magic to track magical identity, and write down the name of the wizard. The map must use something similar. It detects REAL identities even under strong magical disguises!! It tracks a cat. It tracks visitor students. It tracks ghosts. It calls Snape "professor". It also gives very personal insults with up to date details. That also means it WAS imbibed with the personalities of the marauders "Sorting Hat style" This Carlin video was NOT well made... sorry.

[@hirausman8734]

I always kinda thought that Fred and George were the ones to set up the password “I solemnly swear that I am up to no good” and “Mischief managed”. Yes, the Marauders left the map for future trouble makers, but they might have used a different password and in-still magic that would let their successors decide for themselves how they use and clean the map.

[@anthonyturner9442]

Nah lupin knew it and so did sirius

[@kool4209]

no......

[@todd7416ify]

How is it that the Ministry is looking for Sirius, yet Hedwig can find him easily whenever Harry sends him letters? The Ministry should've just sent Sirius a letter and followed the owl.

[@SH27]

your right

[@JediLoreen]

@@SH27 What about his right? Oh, you meant "YOU'RE right" meaning "you are", not YOUR, which is possessive. 🙄

[@jennyb.2939]

Also when the Order was moving Harry, they decided to use travel methods where Harry wouldn't have to use magic because the trace was still on him. Yet he was using magic during the travel and they're surprised that Voldemort found Harry because Hedwig defended him?

[@kalilmyers9498]

@@JediLoreen Gross

[@jamiewallace3546]

The whole series is riddled with plot holes let’s be hobest

[@ObviouslyASMR]

Missed opportunity for a password or security related sponsor :P

[@TomWylde]

Oh hi Luuk, fancy seeing you here 😂

[@ObviouslyASMR]

@@TomWylde oh hey man :)

[@lauragenevieve5646]

Ben's enthusiasm for having squibs enrolled at Hogwarts is the most Hufflepuff thing ever, and that being said, I am a G.E.S.T.A.T.E ally! 🐙

[@benwybrow1197]

i think that is an octopus a squid is 🦑

[@Elemental-Phoenix-Dragon]

I am a Hufflepuff and also a G.E.S.T.A.T.E ally. 🦑

[@sarahfox5379]

🦑 Slytherin here, squibs should be allowed in! (But only pure blood squibs XD jk jk!)

[@lauragenevieve5646]

@@benwybrow1197 No iphone, no squid, but my support still stands! ✊🐙

[@Elemental-Phoenix-Dragon]

What would a child born to 2 Squibs be called??? Squib-Born???

[@7on]

Idea: Filch was there when the map was made and he was manually added in. Meaning, future squibs may not show up on the map. If we can get three movies centered around Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - a tv series on The Mauraders and the creation of the map would be 😩👌

[@TheNoteblockLizard]

Hmmm ... I'm pretty sure Mrs. Norris showed up on the map ... and I'm struggling to think of if Winkey and Dobby actually showed up on it or not without going back and re-reading through all the books again ... For that matter, how about the students of Durmstrang and Beauxbatons visiting for the Triwizard Tournament? Also, Hypothetically, would that mean that American wizards would be "accepted" to Hogwarts if they showed up on the map too during a visit?

[@DaRozeman]

I think the book and quill were global. It's entirely possible that the Hogwarts founders would believe theirs to be the only magic school in the world (at least at the time).

[@ErifOnaclovNusDer]

According to the Carlin Bros, Mrs. Norris would be a part of Filch the poltergeist, so that's why she shows on the map. House Elfs would not, because they are part of the magic of the school, and they wouldn't be written in the book.

[@bribunny12345]

when he was talking about the quill and book recording magic users i took it to mean ALL magic users in the world (i might have misunderstood). like what if there was a wizard who spent time between two different continents or was born in england and then moved somewhere else? wouldnt they need to be recorded in case they went to hogwarts? i would think the book and quill would just record all and then most wizards would end up going to the school closest to home. also not sure about the house elves but mrs. norris seemed weirdly smart for a cat in the books i always thought she was a person trapped in a cat body or something. but maybe shes a part of filch?

[@onecatshortofcrazy146]

well barry croch showed up so i’m guessing any magic containing person shows up who is in the castle

[@deathsheir2035]

Mrs. Norris is Filch's cat, and works to help capture students. Therefore they needed means to track her movement as well. As for house elves, it has never been specified that Dobby showed up on the map, nor Winkey.

[@katybechnikova2821]

There's this spell called Homenum revelio, just so you know. It reveals if there's anyone in any building you cast it in. That's probably the base of the map, not the quill and book.

[@suprajaramakumar7345]

I would love to watch a series about the Marauders - like what their lives were like at hogwarts and also perhaps how they created the map

[@janTesika]

that and a founders series would be awesome! maybe each season can be a different generation of wizards important to the story. the title? Hogwarts: A History (then someone draws on in parentheses "But actually fun this time!")

[@mintyscott23]

I mean, there's a fanfiction about it if you want to read it.

[@SophieHarrison69]

All the Young Dudes is a great fanfiction about it

[@mintyscott23]

@@SophieHarrison69 Yes!

[@bethanysaville824]

All the young dudes is brilliant and they have the audiobook on KZbin for free

[@mynameismatt2010]

I always just figured that the wards that can register the intent of a person entering the school also identifies that person, and the marauders found a way to build the map as a GUI on top of a preexisting ward. Seems like the simplest answer and something actually attainable by 4 high schoolers.

[@charlessaintpe8574]

Even simpler is that the map was originally part of the Hogwarts wards, and the Marauders simply stole it and changed the locks.

[@khadijasenghor286]

I mean, considering the three of the four all became an animagus, they were clearly very advanced in practical magic. Making the Marauder’s map would’ve been hard, but definitely achievable by their standards.

[@autumngalix4616]

I forgot Remus wasn't an animagus.

[@marianap3771]

Idea for a theory: how do the students wake up at hogwarts without an alarm clock? Is there a spell to it they never mention? They are a bunch of teenagers, they wouldnt be waking up easily

[@cosmicriptid]

I'VE WONDERED THIS TOO

[@steveschritz1823]

Teacher: *sighhh* Neville’s late for class again Peeves: *giggle* he’s still in his bed, he is ... shall I ... Teacher: go for it

[@PKMNResearcherSkyler]

It could be clocks that don't use batteries. I actually have a clock that works by being wound up like some old school toys. Granted, you have to make sure to wind it up again daily, but it does work and I imagine the wizarding world would have more perfected versions of it.

[@steveschritz1823]

Magic alarm clock ... I can picture it ... starts nice enough but progresses to yelling at you until you finally get up

[@PirateParadox]

This would make a great video!

[@AZDfox]

How about "People for the Advancement of Squibs in Society", or P.A.S S.

[@SH27]

thats so good

[@resecas3698]

Someone once pointed out that Fred and George saw that Peter pettigrew was in Ron’s bed every night and they didn’t say anything was messed up. Like Ron was 11 and Peter was a grown man.

[@meganlove657]

I assume the map only shows people you know or care to see therefore they wouldn’t see Peter because they don’t know who he is

[@dirisiri1267]

@@meganlove657 Harry didn't care about Peter and yet he was shown.

[@erichanastacio9695]

Probably thought of him as an invisible ghost if the twins can't literally see him. Well... He "died", right?

[@ash54321]

@@dirisiri1267 but harry has seen Peter when he was with his parents

[@ash54321]

@@dirisiri1267 Fred send George don’t know anything about peter

[@morlath4767]

Here's an idea: The "Marauder's" rather than "Marauders" is not an error. Bouncing off this video, the Maraduers wouldn't have known if the next generation of troublemakers and pranksters was a person or a group. So they went with the singular for those who come after the actual Marauders.

[@frenchfriar]

Peeves *does* listen to "somebody else": Minerva McGonagall. She tells him the chandelier unscrews in the other direction, after all. On the other hand, I imagine ignoring Professor McGonagall wouldn't be something in anyone's best interest to do.

[@abraham2172]

That wasnt an order, it was a tipp. But yeah, he listens to McGonagall and other teachers he respects.

[@jonathantorres8409]

@@abraham2172 nah he only listens to id say two but if you want to through Minerva into it ig you can but no it would only be the bloody barron and Dumbledore that peeves would ever listen to

[@ericwood9139]

When Ben asked “how can teenagers figure this out but a government can’t?” The key word there is government.

[@advanceringnewholder]

And this is Britain we're talking about. Good old missinformation and classified tech. Just look at the basement of ministry of magic

[@tuddthetotodile5448]

Haha

[@dreadsocialistroberts]

If the Ministry got their hands on the Map, it most likely would have been hidden away in the Department of Mysteries.

[@advanceringnewholder]

@@dreadsocialistroberts Or. They already have it long before the map. But it kept hidden from the masses. Or, the magic is too expensive used in nation scale, so the detail got turned down.

[@maysiestewart3366]

Yes

[@fengli8436]

"they are supposed to be out of bed you blithering idiot!" One of the best McGonagall lines ever

[@virt1one]

and then there's the only time you really see her truly delighted: "I've always wanted to use that spell!"

[@randomericthings7506]

“He’s quite literally part of the school!” Me Immediately After that Sentence: Part of the crew, part of the ship. Wait! Wrong franchise.

[@ruthdeckman9781]

Lol I understood that reference!

[@iowaredneck9416]

Everyone has some pirate in them

[@SH27]

yesss

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

An explanation for Filch being on the map that doesn't require him to be a poltergeist is quite simply: The map is also connected to the school's faculty list. How else would the Marauders be able to keep tabs on teachers that didn't attend Hogwarts?

[@brunopereira6789]

I'm thinking that when Fred and George acquired the map, it identified them as spiritual successors to the Marauders, and these words appeared: "Do you solemnly swear you are up to no good?". It wouldn't take much to figure out the password then.

[@candacew.8629]

Love this

[@lexi5191]

Gestate sounds like something Granger would have made up, after spew became successful, and honestly, I’m here for it.

[@blunderminer]

Harry Potter Theory: Everyone gets a train station scene when they die. They're given a choice of whether to move on or go back to Earth, just like Harry did. The difference is that when they go back to Earth, they're ghosts. Harry comes back alive because he is the Master of Death.

[@number16kelbax]

I like this theory

[@denisbosak6345]

Love this!

[@maggiedayan7146]

Good theory

[@Lucklyist]

Imagine experiencing a train station scene in the Middle Ages and being like totally confused.

[@blunderminer]

@@Lucklyist haha yeah. That would be messed up. But as Dumbledore said King's Cross was Harry's show. I'd imagine the backdrop is custom to the person.

[@kingstitch2888]

I always thought it was dumb that Harry didn’t give the map to Ginny in the deathly hallows, like you’re not going to be at school man, you don’t need it!

[@AN31DO01RR96]

well, he thought a horcrux was located in Hogwarts, so keeping the map would be quite useful... and the map was one of the few family heirlooms (his father and godfather) he possessed, I suppose he grew emotionally attached to it.

[@iluineredrambar4111]

@@AN31DO01RR96 Or perhaps he forgot/didn't think about it.

[@MerkhVision]

IIRC he looked at it sometimes while on the Horcrux hunt to check on Ginny n see that she was ok

[@AN31DO01RR96]

@@iluineredrambar4111 possible, but we also have to take into account that his departure from the Burrow on the wedding day was sudden and overhasty, he simply didn't have time to give the map to Ginny 🤷

[@pablopistachio1717]

@@iluineredrambar4111 that wouldn’t surprise me. he forgot to change his shirt for 7 years.

[@Celebwen21]

I always felt the trace on young wizards was a sign of systemic prejudice against muggle-borns, but it also makes sense why you wouldn’t want young wizards doing magic unsupervised, considering how many kids wind up visiting Madam Pomfrey.

[@mobbs6426]

To be honest, I can actually just imagine them using the phrase in conversation "What you doing George?" "I solemnly swear that I am up to no good Fred" "As I'd expect George, but that parchment we nicked from Filch is doing something"

[@tedgovostis7351]

As far as how Filch got it, and how the twins learned how it works, I suspect that the Marauders would have told Peeves about it so that he could make sure it went to the right students later on. And it was just a matter of Filch getting it from one of those students later. Then it was just a matter of Peeves telling the twins how to use it. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Marauders had simply managed to get a page out of that book to make the map, and maybe some ink from that quill. Mix ink with some of the soil from the grounds of the school so that it is attuned to that location specifically (or whatever excuse you want to use) and voila.

[@derpyderp8559]

....perfect.

[@TheScarvig]

its litterally the paper that knows the names. the map enchant is just a way to display them. btw does the book/quill combo also write the admission letters once the magical child is old enough to go to school? then it would have the tracking magic to give the destination for the letters. didnt one of the letters harry recieved but that got confiscated by his uncle litteraly say closet under the stairs as additional address information? something knows pretty precisely of the location the new student is at....

[@savionjavoneysmith4339]

You gotta remember that it's possible there are laws observed by the government against using the level of surveillance that the Marauder's Map makes use of. This would probably explain why the Ministry of Magic doesn't use Marauder's Map-like technology to keep tabs of everyone throughout the year.

[@robinsuj]

I believe that's mostly due to the incompetence of the Ministry than anything else.

[@ugolomb]

@@robinsuj I can certainly imagine an unscruplous Minister (as Fudge had become in his last year in office -- not to mention Umbridge, who had no compunctions about using Dementors in a clearly illegal manner) using such technologies even if they weren't legal. Same goes for conscienteous but ruthless Ministry official like Barty Crouch Sr. It's at this point, of course, that the question of sheer competence comes in.

[@adde9506]

The Ministry doesn't seem like it would have those kinds of laws. But I also don't see them being proactive enough to develop that kind of "technology," especially if what they have been doing works well enough.

[@ruubennn]

I'm so happy we're getting 2 HP videos 2 days in a row, SuperCarlinBros are single-handedly keeping my Harry Potter itch scratched.

[@jypsridic]

I read one fanfic that discussed the issue of how they made the map and in that they found a backdoor into the security wards and tapped into the castle's own enchantments to draw and label the map. The map isn't anything more than a second monitor basically.

[@zackdavis2248]

So the Marauders lost it to Filch around probably 5-6th year. At this point they had every teachers routine down. Not to mention James' cloak and EVERY secret passage already memorized. I'm guessing they never bothered to get it back because they no longer needed it and assumed if anyone were to manage to get it from Filch's office it would be to continue their work. Also we see the map responding as if it were the Marauders speaking to the person holding it so I believe Fred and George were just their careless selves trying to figure it out and James, Sirius, Remus, and Peter helped them figure it out. (This comment is like 1 minute into the video so this may be his theory too)

[@lunas_gamingworld9422]

I thought that they would have gotten it in their third or first year since they know it so well

[@Wildcard0101]

no they lost it to filch in their last year when they were about to go home

[@dustingaethje1332]

My guess is that they just left it behind for the next gen to find. I mean, the mao itself does present them like proud creators of an invention that was being given away to someone else.

[@korie4198]

So, I came to the conclusion that perhaps there is a charm that allows the tracking of people beyond the under 17 one because not only does the map track people but Molly Weasley has a clock that helps her track where her family is, although in less detail. Since Molly is close in age to James and the others it may have been something discovered and only shared within a close group. It would obviously not be the easiest charm to make, which makes me wonder if a teacher taught it on the sly.

[@Princess_Celestia_]

Yeah, it's called the Homonculous Charm and when cast on a map, it reveals the name and location and tracks every person within the mapped area.

[@Macallion]

The book and quill may never have admitted a squib, but considering that they didn't consider Neville magical enough to attend until his uncle threw him out of a window, when we know he had shown signs of magic - albeit subtler magic - beforehand, makes me wonder how many actual wizards this system has kept out. Maybe Filch is one of these.

[@anvime739]

I was wondering the same. Neville and Merope prove that the line between a squib and a witch is not clear. I wonder if most squibs can do some magic but they were just never trained for it.

[@Nina-pl7dp]

The general population does not have access to the book. Could you imagine the damage that could be done with such information? The obcession with forcing Neville's magic was a family/societal issue. Squibs aren't treated very well in magical society and having a squib in the family is not at all desirable.

[@judywright4241]

---Especially since we know Filch sent away for the booklet to help squibs, so it’s an acknowledgement that he not only IS a Squib, but he’s trying to fight to be more. So that undercuts this argument that Filch is a poltergeist too.

[@millyfr7783]

I've heard a theory about how they got all the names down is that they managed to make a potion which the poured on a well used part of the castle, like the entrance to the great hall. they made the same potion and poured that on the map. So, whenever someone walks into the great hall, their name of preference at that time is recorded and put on the map. This way if someone changes their name for any reason, the next time they walk into the great hall, their name will change on the map. In terms of the whole "how did Fred and George not see Peter Pettigrew in their brother's bed", I think only the marauders (and people who know they animagus) can see other marauders when they are in animagus form. I think because Harry is James's blood, the map gives him ability to see this also. One last thing. I think the only way Filch got the map is because the marauders wanted him to. At the end of their 7th year they decided to "accidentally" let Filch see them using the map with everyone's names on it, and then act surprised, lock the map and "accidentally" leave it as they flee (or something similar). Meaning that whether or not he knows about the fact that it can track everyone in the castle is irrelevant, because Filch knows this was used by the marauders, and therefore is classed as 'highly dangerous' in his office. The marauder's did this because they wanted some other troublemakers to find it, just like Fred and George. And what better place to put it than the place that troublemakers would be in often (due to detention, pranks, etc.) and is guarded by someone who can't do magic (therefore has no magical locks on anything). Filch's office. edit: just watched the rest of the video and realised his theory for the last thing is the same as mine but I'm just going to leave it here anyway.

[@jennyolson2075]

I absolutely love how you guys are still continuing the joke about not letting Voldemort plan a wedding! That is the best!!!

[@FlynnTheRedhead]

“This video is brought to you by meundies” You know that’s the only reason the owner named the company that way

[@bowenjennings6084]

Mrs. Norris shows up on the map, as just a normal cat she probably wouldn't have been alive back when the Marauders were around one would think, so they wouldn't have added her, unless her life was magically extended.

[@meleardil]

In this theory I completely disagree with the brothers. The quill and book uses a magic to track magical identity, and write down the name of the wizard. The map must use something similar. It detects REAL identities even under strong magical disguises!! It tracks a cat. It tracks visitor students. It tracks ghosts. It calls Snape "professor". It also gives very personal insults with up to date details. That also means it WAS imbibed with the personalities of the marauders "Sorting Hat style" This Carlin video was NOT well made... sorry.

[@wolfsonic]

I kept waiting for him to mention Ms Norris. There is on record that Ms Norris isn't anything other than an unsavory cat

[@derpyderp8559]

She is literally connected to filch, so I think when he dies, so does mrs Norris. I also love mrs Norris despite her being a P- I would leave her little dishes of milk in the corridors

[@DutchDread]

@@meleardil I've always thought the castle was alive in some sense, with the changing corridors and the like. I don't think the magic used to track the students takes the form of any sort of trace on the students. That implies a magical link between the students and the map, I think the link exists between the map and the castle itself. I think it can better be seen as video surveillance, perhaps the map is the result of a bunch of sensors placed throughout the castle, or perhaps the castle itself is the sensor, but in any case it probably uses some sort of low level automated legilimency the determine the identity of anything nearby.

[@meleardil]

@@DutchDread Oh! that is an ancient magical concept, called Tagmentum of the House (the guardian spirit of the house). Kind of a midbrain thingy. The idea is that if sentient beings think and feel inside a building, and the building is magically prepared, than those activities leave an imprint in the magic, and the building slowly becomes self aware. Kind of a soft mixture of all the people who was emotionally connected to the building. Also, the stronger your attachment to the building, the stronger your affiliation to the "spirit of the house". That would also explain the connection of the marauders to the castle. It was more likely to do their bidding, aiding them, because they were more "one with it". It also explains the twins, Harry and Voldemort, because they were all very strongly connected to the castle, so they were more likely to be aided by the castle itself. From that point of view the Room of Requirement is a direct manifestation of that concept. It is also true that it helps to those who actually AT HOME in the castle. If they love the place, it loves them back.

[@brianpotter267]

The map was part of each of the 4 creators: Wormtail, James Potter, Sirius Black, and Remus Lupin. Compare that to the paintings in Dumbledore's office of the former headmasters. They still have the essence of the person they embody as well (this is apparent when the painting of Dumbledore talks to Snape in the Deathly Hallows about the sword).

[@scottr2314]

There is another possibility for how the map knows everyone's name. The sorting hat use legilimency to essentially read the minds of students to figure out which house they would serve best in, What if James. Surius, Peter and Lupin enchanted the Marauders Map with a legilimency spell in the same way the 4 Hogwarts founders use the same spell on the sorting hat? Maybe it's more advanced than the sorting because it shows the location of everyone in the castle but thee function seems to be very similar.

[@Princess_Celestia_]

Homonculous Charm when cast on a map will reveal and track the location of every person within the mapped area. I do believe it's stated in the books starting with book 3.

[@davidmccarthy4206]

What you say about Squibs in Hogwarts is very true. They're essentially just disabled magic people : they can't do everything a Wizard can but they're still part of the Wizarding Community, and should go to school to learn about it. My middle school had a partnership with the city Institute for Deaf students, so there was A) a class of deaf people, and B) some deaf people in the classes mixed with non-deaf people. I don't see why Squibs couldn't do the same thing, attend lessons they don't need magic for with magic kids (history of magic etc), and have their own classes adapted to their abilities (like the theory of spells, knowledge about defense against the dark arts etc)

[@abraham2172]

"This is a gun. Some kind of muggle wand. Pull the trigger to defend yourself from any dark arts."

[@BlindRobotDragon]

I've never given much thought to squibs, but what you're saying makes complete sense. They could be allowed into schools like Hogwarts, and given the chance to study magical theory, history, and other aspects of magical learning that don't require any actual magic being used in order to study. Then, after graduation, they could choose to continue living within the wizarding world, or live amongst muggles. Incidentally, I too have a disability. I've been totally blind since birth. Sometimes I've wondered what would happen if a child was born to wizard parents, but had some form of physical disability, such as blindness, deafness, difficulties controlling motor functions etc. Would they be accepted into a wizarding school? Would they have any magic at all? I don't suppose these are questions to which we'll ever have answers.

[@WolfgangDoW]

@@abraham2172 wizards are too proud and stubborn to use muggle tech even when it's basically magic and way better Like imagine just shooting Voldemort, series over, happily ever after

[@abraham2172]

@@WolfgangDoW Shooting Voldemort wouldnt kill him since he still has horcruxes. Not all muggles are arrogant towards muggle tech, Arthur Weasley for ex was very impressed by muggle tech and "upgraded" it with magic.

[@alessiob8700]

@@abraham2172 that's why we need 30 rounds magazines lol

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

I always thought the walls of Hogwarts can detect everybody in Hogwarts premise and inside the castle just as a Wi-Fi router can detect other Wi-Fi devices within its range.

[@edopronk1303]

I'm also for this idea. Although a combination of both is also possible.

[@sophiejones2334]

I think an idea like this makes the most sense and matches the marauder's skill level at the time.

[@gaiahermanns4506]

I really like this theory, it makes total sense. I just have one little question: wasn’t there a scene in the movies in which Harry saw Crookshanks on the map? I’m not 100% sure, maybe someone can help. But if I’m right, how do students’ pets fit into it all?

[@RenataHargitai]

if there's ever be a series about the Marauders, I'd like to see how they climbed up to the book and quill tower... and take a fresh page out of the book and enchant the quill to map the whole castle and its surroundings....

[@sl8644]

I like to think that the map has a bit of its creators' knowledge and values embedded in it just like the sorting hat

[@zeathosthomas4847]

The actor who plays Filch plays my favorite version of Merlin on Troll Hunters and Wizards. You'd love that series.

[@naralion7]

Wait, actually? Nice. Man, I absolutely love that show. That's why Filch sounded so familiar.

[@zeathosthomas4847]

@@naralion7 He sounds like Sword in the Stone Merlin but it's still pretty unique and I like both versions to.

[@naralion7]

@@zeathosthomas4847 Nice. THanks

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

It may not be impossible that Peeves interacted with the marauders more than we realize and he relayed important information to fred and George while they waited in filchs office.

[@matthewpelletier6900]

I like the theory that the names on the map are sourced from the Book and Quill. The biggest question I have is, what is the range of the Book and Quill? Does it cover the entire world? What would happen if Hogwarts and Ilvermorny decided to have a cross-Atlantic Quidditch match? Would the Ilvermorny staff and students show up on the map? What if a Japanese wizard shows up? I don't remember if we see Fleur or Krum or any other visiting students on the map in Goblet.

[@stevenjones253]

Reference to other video: How is Filch a poltergeist if he received a letter from Kwikspell?

[@JonathanMandrake]

I had an idea for a small simple theory: The reason why Hogwarts and its surroundings always looks different in the movies and games is because the way it really looks can´t be shown because there it would reveal information about where Hogwarts is, not only how Hogwarts itself is

[@AuthorZaraHoffman]

But Hogwarts looks like ruins to muggles. And all wizards seem to know where it is even if they went to a different school.

[@dajax1996]

@@AuthorZaraHoffman thats not true actually. The exact location is hidden as per goblet of fire!

[@AuthorZaraHoffman]

@@dajax1996 I TOTALLY forgot about that.

[@dajax1996]

@@AuthorZaraHoffman thats ok haha! Having read the books too many times you start to remember stuff xD

[@86upsmaya]

Good one. But sadly, it is just the production and the director not being bothered.

[@kalimachild]

I actually believe that they had assistance from Dumbledore in the creation of the map. The map was intended to make it easier for them to enter and leave the castle during the Full Moon without getting into trouble.

[@gira5455]

There is a possibility they might've asked him for advice indirectly at some point, but I personally doubt that he helped directly or even knew that this map existed, seeing as that Dumbledore had absolutely no idea when Barty Crouch Jr mentioned it in Goblet of Fire

[@lokitac4748]

@@gira5455 Actually, the scene went something like this: Barty Crouch: I saw him (Barty Crouch Sr.) on Potter's map. Dumbledore: Potter's map? What map is this? Barty Crouch: Potter's map of Hogwarts, it showed me (something). and then he continues with his story. So actually, Dumbledore could have known about the map, just didn't know that it was the same map being talked about in that instance.

[@SophieHarrison69]

But Dumbledore didn’t know they all left, as that would mean knowing about sirius being an animagus and he only discovers this in PoV

[@stigandersen3783]

Dumbledore didn't know that they were doing that. Lupin was escorted back and forth by Madam Pomfrey for a reason.

[@ConstantChaos1]

I could see it being a stolen page from the book hence how it can access its magic

[@dessel5683]

i feel like the other option is that they put a charm on the hogwarts grounds and so anyone who goes onto the grounds gets tracked

[@mrdrock]

This seems like the easier answer. The map's outline of Hogwarts is created using words, I would think they had to mark all the walls of the school when drawing out the map and so the spells in the walls detect who is nearby.

[@windhelmguard5295]

it makes a lot of sense for the map to be specifically linked to the magical energies unique to hogwarts, which is also why the room of requirement can not be detected, the room of requirement is hidden by the castles magic and thus the marauders map, which runs on the castles magic, can not overcome that protection.

[@johnblack2547]

Since Peeves liked Fred and George maybe he told them of the map in the first place and also told them the spell (or password) to make it work

[@randoml97]

Well that's my new head cannon!

[@steveschritz1823]

I thought maybe Peter Pettigrew left Fred and George a letter telling them where it was and how to activate it, but I like the Peeves theory even better

[@Neuviletteiudexofmemes]

I just assumed the map somehow tapped into the school itself, who’s wards would be able to identify persons or creatures permitted within them.

[@iissamiam]

My theory is that the map gave the twins a series of tasks; find the kitchen, lure filtch to certain locations, get from the dungeon to the astronomy tower without using the main corridors, and as a reward gave them the password and reviled secret passageways.

[@johnjohnson1250]

Once you step into the castle/ exist in it, you are on the map! Fred and George are the smartest kids after the Marauders

[@judek1166]

I’ve absolutely been wondering how they figured out the password or even that it was magical

[@jameskirk4692]

Awesome job! I absolutely love your passion on this channel, skills and presentation! You add so much to the original story by ironing it out and creating new bits to strengthen loose bits and making it more interesting and fun.

[@aspe]

Imagine a series about the Marauders and a storyline about how they made the map... They may have had to break into the room with the book and the quill... Man the idea alone of such a series gives me chills

[@TheScarvig]

what if the map was made from a torn out page of the actual book? like they found the room, snuck in and stole a page. then it would make sense that the map knows the names. it is litterally the paper that knows the names. the map enchantment is just added on top of it to display them

[@xDecimatedDreamx]

@@TheScarvig this was my exact headcannon as soon as he said that the tower the book and quill are kept in was a place students weren't allowed to enter. obviously the marauders would find a way in and try to figure out how the book worked, and the way that's least likely to get them caught is to steal a page and work on it in private.

[@mrdrock]

Map: “Messers Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs Purveyors of Aids to magical Mischief-Makers are proud to present THE MARAUDER'S MAP” F&G: "Dear Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs, guide us in our mischief here at Hogwarts." Map: "What are your intentions with this map? Prove to us that you are worthy of its secrets." F&G: "We solemnly swear that we are up to no good."

[@Laura-pk2fd]

I've always thought the Marauders must have left the map behind on purpose. My question is did Remus look for it in Flich's office when he returned to teach? And why did he forget his potion?!

[@SufFis1337]

The fact that the map can actually spot who is where has probably to do with the mark young wizards and witches have until they turn 17, that the map still know generations later after you lost this 'mark' might have something to do with it having some sort of memory, since it said to snape to keep his long nose out of stuff that isn't his business. The map has memory and knowledge stored from its creators most likely and after started to store some of its own. * The thing with the Ministry of magic not detecting Dobby at Dursleys in book/film 3 is because he's an elf, they have a different sort of magic, its mentioned in book 2 I think it was or maybe later but I know it's mentioned. As for the map not detecting some creatures like elfs kind of seems logical, otherwise there would be a lot of them showing up on the map at Hogwarts since the whole kitchen is full of them preparing food for all the teachers and students. *note. I wrote the above before I even watched the whole clip 😅and I still believe that the map has some sort of 'mind' of its own since all magic leaves some sort of imprint from the one/the ones that casted the spell. all that beeing said, I'm a huge HP fan and loved that this video showed up on my 'home page' very fun to watch and to read all other comments 😄🦑🦑