How George Lucas Almost Accidentally Made A Masterpiece - A Better Way To Watch

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@Delsanar
@Delsanar 8 жыл бұрын
Obiwan is 25 in Ep 1. Padme is 14 and Anakin is 10. There's no real indication that Padme is closer in age to Obiwan. Prequels were fine.
@dylanmorrissey6825
@dylanmorrissey6825 8 жыл бұрын
Delsanar yeah the prequels were not "fine"
@andrewaxberg5215
@andrewaxberg5215 8 жыл бұрын
yeah based on the knowledge that she is 14. However, maybe obi wan liked them young... really young xD
@Wallfez93
@Wallfez93 8 жыл бұрын
Delsanar anakin was 9, padme was 12, and Obi Wan was 25.
@SkiddyOcean117
@SkiddyOcean117 8 жыл бұрын
i thought obi wan was like 18-20 padme was 16-18 and anakin was 10
@jacquelinebrannon7724
@jacquelinebrannon7724 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ApertureClockwork
@ApertureClockwork 8 жыл бұрын
Nah, my favorite fan theory is that Old Ben is actually Obi Wan.
@burbanpoison2494
@burbanpoison2494 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he means Old Ben Kenobi?
@cpmtn1995
@cpmtn1995 8 жыл бұрын
you kidding me? that fan-theory is absurd
@orangeapples
@orangeapples 8 жыл бұрын
Are you insane? That isn't a theory. Even theories have some level of evidence to suggest the possibility. What you're saying is just some insane headcanon.
@UTU49
@UTU49 8 жыл бұрын
WHAT?!
@kikivoorburg
@kikivoorburg 8 жыл бұрын
ApertureClockwork IMPOSSIBLE!!!
@tankbusta5335
@tankbusta5335 8 жыл бұрын
Obi Wan was not in love with Padme. He just knew what was going on between her and Anakin but cared for both of them enough to not say a thing. What makes the prequels so amazing really is Anakin seeing that the Jedi are hypocrites, that in his eyes they are evil for creating a war and throwing away their values of peace and justice, when Anakin had to give up so much to follow the code of the Jedi, that the Jedi themselves don't need to follow. People think that Padme is the sole reason Anakin turned to the dark side, but it is only showing Anakins love for compassion and his will to only do good and seeing that power is necessary to do good. He already viewed the Jedi as hypocrites that feared him and his power, but what truly turned him against the Jedi is seeing that the Jedi were about to murder the one man that seemed to sympathize with Anakin and share his points of view. He believed everything he was doing was right, and he fought Obi wan because he feared that he, like the
@tankbusta5335
@tankbusta5335 8 жыл бұрын
Other Jedi feared him and that Obi wan came to assassinate him. He didn't truly see that what him and the emperor was doing was evil until the emperor was going to kill his only son for him showing mercy to Vader, which is what Anakin tried to show to Palpatine. He Anakin did the exact same thing to the emperor as what he did to mace Windu, he had to aggressively stop the slaughter of the helpless. Everyone who doesn't like the prequels for this reason that it seems like Anakin went from a helpless boy to an evil overlord should watch The Clone Wars, and see the true evolution of Anakin Skywalker. It talked about the romance of Anakin and Padme in only 2 episodes out of about a hundred
@judahallen1354
@judahallen1354 8 жыл бұрын
TankBusta Exactly, that makes the prequels a masterpiece not some stupid affair. Star Wars isn't all about romance.
@Candy4Bullets
@Candy4Bullets 8 жыл бұрын
TankBusta YES. The clone wars is what the prequels should have been. Well I like ep.3 ep.1was alright cause it showed Anakin as a regular kid ep. 2 I felt was the worst progression of anakin and like to believe the clones wars Anakin is the only anakin. And the best one that explains his emotions, behaviour ect in ep. 3.
@SelvesteSand
@SelvesteSand 8 жыл бұрын
When did the Jedi start a war? (They didn't) The separatist movement did, and the Republic defended itself. The Jedi accepted their duty to lead the troops, but if they hadn't, other people would have instead - people who didn't value peace so much. Anakin knew this, and the war's not why he left. I have yet to see or hear a single good argument for why the Jedi are hypocritical.
@broamamondaun3055
@broamamondaun3055 8 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you say that the Jedi were hypocritical ever since they've pledged their allegiance to the Republic? Jedi are supposed to be symbols of peace and guardians for all creatures of the galaxy. By supporting the Republic during the Clone Wars, the Jedi basically condemned the peaceful inhabitants of the Separatist planets. Not to mention that their acceptance to become generals of the army is completely against their ideals. Jedi are meant to be defenders, not aggressors. So with little to no military knowledge or experience why do they willingly become generals of the army? Sure they wanted to end the war but they had no authority in the matter; the army (and thus its generals) were under orders of the Republic Senate. By willingly accepting such positions, they prevent themselves from having any say in the results of the war. Not wanting to start a big argument, just my two cents.
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 7 жыл бұрын
This video is trying to ruin my reputation. I am deeply offended by it.
@ivargas8492
@ivargas8492 7 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan Kenobi come on, you nailed senator and... male Vader girlfriend hit on you
@aaron75fy
@aaron75fy 7 жыл бұрын
don't sweat it mate, this individual sounds like she just scanned the synopsis and took nothing outside the 3 movies into consideration
@callmepotato
@callmepotato 7 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan may be a master of The Force be he ain't a master of pulling out.
@dabtasticcharizard9817
@dabtasticcharizard9817 7 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan Kenobi i will always believe in the high ground!!!!!!!!!!!!
@SithEso
@SithEso 7 жыл бұрын
xD Hue hue :D good one :D stay strong Obi Wan Kanabis
@lupooflunarorigin120
@lupooflunarorigin120 8 жыл бұрын
wait, Padme didn't fall in love with Anakin as a boy. what the fuck are you talking about?
@plo617
@plo617 8 жыл бұрын
That's bandwagon jumpers for you. They hate it because it's cool to hate it.
@theguardian3431
@theguardian3431 8 жыл бұрын
Sshhh! Quiet. Let her talk. Lol
@chairmanMeovw
@chairmanMeovw 8 жыл бұрын
Hahah no. Padme was never a boy, you.
@guillep2k
@guillep2k 8 жыл бұрын
She met him as a child. As most women could tell you, it's extermely difficult for a woman to see someone she knew as child as a real man. She will always see him as a child, no matter how much he grows up later.
@guillep2k
@guillep2k 8 жыл бұрын
"Most" is enough to make the story very difficult to swallow. It's like saying "most dogs can't count up to ten". Surely there must be some trained dogs that do, but if you portrait one in a movie that is untrained, it will probably look like bullshit.
@terranman4702
@terranman4702 8 жыл бұрын
Vader:"I could have been your father!!" Luke:"Ohhhhhhhhhhh!"
@Uroboro_Djinn
@Uroboro_Djinn 8 жыл бұрын
In Game of Thrones, this is literally a pick-up line by one of the characters.
@taliahass1234
@taliahass1234 8 жыл бұрын
♞ Go Fuck Yourself ♞ Ahaha
@spartanwar1185
@spartanwar1185 8 жыл бұрын
reminds me of a line from Sergeant Johnson in Halo 1-3 "I would have been your daddy, but a dog beat me over the fence" it's also the name of a skull in the game now lol RIP Sgt. Avery Johnson..
@BulletBillSoilder
@BulletBillSoilder 8 жыл бұрын
Not believing this, especially since obi-wan was attracted to that mandolorian chick
@itsjack2769
@itsjack2769 8 жыл бұрын
Smasherfan88 true but obi wan could have had more than one girlfriend in 40 years
@BulletBillSoilder
@BulletBillSoilder 8 жыл бұрын
Fancy Productions after seeing his love interest die my maul's hand I don't think he would do to his reaction at that time, even saying if she said he loved him when qui-Jon-jinn was alive and while they were on their mission to mandolore he would've left the jedi order then and there (plus this theory seems way too far fetched and is more of a "what if" instead of a theory, this is more far fetched than all those snoke theories)
@itsjack2769
@itsjack2769 8 жыл бұрын
Smasherfan88 fair point 👌
@therealwinston3634
@therealwinston3634 8 жыл бұрын
you know, the mandalorian chick wasn't really a thing, when the prequel-trilogy aired
@darthkso3745
@darthkso3745 8 жыл бұрын
TherealWinston actually yes it did. Between 2 and 3.
@MrJedabak
@MrJedabak 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's better if you assume that Obi-Wan fell in love with Padmé but never did anything about it. Maybe Lucas could've thought about it and included it, which would've made Anakin's fall make more sense, having Anakin find out about Obi-Wan's feelings and incorrectly assume that Padmé cheated on him with Obi-Wan. The scene in Mustafar hints at that dropped subplot. "Liar! You're with him! You brought him here to kill me!" It would make it that much more tragic if Obi-Wan decides to take care of Luke because he feels guilty that his feelings are what brought about Anakin's fall and the downfall of the entire Jedi Order. Plus, does no one remember that Obi-Wan literally asks Padmé "Anakin is the father, isn't he?" when he sees Padmé pregnant?
@jedione8767
@jedione8767 7 жыл бұрын
why I don't agree with this 1. This completely DESTROYS Obi-wan's character. The fact that he betrayed Anakin, who is like his brother, is horrifying 2.The Skywalker's would be much weaker 3.The "No, I am your father" quote would be ruined 4. Padme is a QUEEN. Q U E E N 5.Padme never requested a bodyguard. Palpatine did that for her. In fact, she didn't want one. Instead, she wanted to figure out who was trying to kill her 6. Obi-wan is 11 years older than Padme, whereby Anakin is only 5 years younger 7. Anakin would feel Luke wasn't his child 8. Luke confirmed that Anakin was his father, and the force doesn't lie 9. What about Leia?! 10. Then what about the thing about "dying of a broken heart?" Then what killed her? 11. This ruins the OT. Now, the scenes of Luke and Anakin and the way that Luke wants to bring Anakin back is no longer heartfelt and emotional 12. In TCW, Obi-wan is shown CLEARLY in love with the senator Satine Kryze from Mandalore
@mychemicalescape9581
@mychemicalescape9581 7 жыл бұрын
Satine Kryze ain't a senator, but I agree about everything.
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 7 жыл бұрын
Well, I wasn't exactly in love with her.
@chechong2439
@chechong2439 7 жыл бұрын
1 A little but Obi Wan was never the MOST honest guy in the world. He lied to Luke. He had lovers when he wasn't supposed to. He dealt with the most seedy people for info and favors all the time. 2 Obi Wan was VERY strong with the force. Was a young Jedi Master and defeated a young Vader in 1 on 1 combat. Very Strong. He defeated Grevious 1 on 1 (yeah I know Mace hurt Grevious but he was still a beast most Jedi couldn't handle alone) 3 Not if the twins had 2 different fathers and Vader fathered only Luke 4 Queens and other people in power are the most notorious for affairs.. so what's your point? 5 whatever 6 Girls usually have crushes on older men not the other way around. 14=Puberty 9=playschool. I'm 12 years older than my wife. (yes she's way more than legal ;) 7 See point 3 8 See point 3 9 Vader never sensed Leah as his daughter even when he spent hours interrogating her and he's known her for years. Hmmm.. Never calls her daughter. Just says Obi Wan's failure is complete. And really it was manipulation to get Luke to come out of hiding and fight. He know's Luke is his son after a few chance encounters and never close up until they fight in Empire. Vader's perception skills must suck with Leah. 10 Dumbest line in the movie. Probably lots of dark side energy from Vader killed her. Also there are a variety of ways a mother can die in childbirth. Especially unprepared. 11 This is actually in line with this whole argument. Obi Wan is the type to fall in love. Take a temporary lover and because of his Jedi code sever the attachment, leaving his lovers out to dry. Padme could have loved him and he her but he'd never commit like Anakin did. So Anakin was the one around when Obi Wan couldn't commit due to his Jedi "honor". People have been known to be in love with multiple people
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 7 жыл бұрын
I never had any "lovers". I had a mutual attraction to Satine but that was as far as it went. I did not do anything with her or had a secret relationship with her. I would I never ever deliberatly disobey the Jedi code. When I was younger and rasher, I said I would leave the Jedi order for Satine because I would never live a lie to have a relationship with Satine while still remain a Jedi. I would do one or the other. I would die for the Jedi and I am am willing to die, do you really think my will is not strong enough tocontrol my own desires?
@chechong2439
@chechong2439 7 жыл бұрын
Fan theory/fiction not canon. Mine is assuming Obi Wan to be occasionally dishonest. Its not far from what we've seen and would work as a narrative. "Vader killed your father". Yeah Obi Wan always tells the truth as much as Mr Spock does.
@z3r070000
@z3r070000 8 жыл бұрын
pretend jar jar is actually the sith lord behind it all.
@tylerrichardson3034
@tylerrichardson3034 8 жыл бұрын
I wish they did that because.
@jackguest145
@jackguest145 8 жыл бұрын
They were going to do that but Lucas chickened out and made Dooku the secret Sith. I like to pretend though.
@tylerrichardson3034
@tylerrichardson3034 8 жыл бұрын
***** Sith Jar Jar makes sense in Episode 1. It doesn't in the later ones. I wish Jar Jar was revealed to be Count Duku.
@ThatFreeWilliam
@ThatFreeWilliam 8 жыл бұрын
Or Jar Jar's not a Sith Lord, he's an agent for a galactic exterminator set to destroy all the carriers of midi-chlorians, which are manipulating their hosts. He half succeeds in setting them against each the each other, but eventually loses when the Emperor dies and Luke and his kids spread the force through the galaxy. "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" isn't a story, it's a warning. They're here now..
@DouglassDanger
@DouglassDanger 8 жыл бұрын
So you are saying Midi-Chlorians are like an STD and jar jar was the antibiotic? The Sith are so angry because the force burns them when they pee And the Jedi forbid love because With love you spread the darkside to others? ;) hmm..
@NoName-bg7lw
@NoName-bg7lw 8 жыл бұрын
It kinda seems like I'm the only one who liked the prequels
@Coolrh13
@Coolrh13 8 жыл бұрын
The Icecream I do
@Coolrh13
@Coolrh13 8 жыл бұрын
The Icecream it's because the prequels aren't protected by a crap ton of nostalgia.
@shawnporterjr2890
@shawnporterjr2890 8 жыл бұрын
The Icecream ikr
@GigaDonk99
@GigaDonk99 8 жыл бұрын
People come up with incredibly dumb excuses as to why the prequels aren't bad movies. "Everyone's just nostalgia blind, the OT sucks!" or "People only shit on the prequels cause it's the hipster thing to do, bandwagon bandwagon!" The truth is, 99% of the people who saw the prequels hate the prequels because they are attrocities of filmmaking. They're absolutely terrible. That's not to say you can't like or enjoy them, but on a fundamental level, those movies are terrible. The nostalgia excuse is especially stupid, because the people who love the prequels are usually the ones who watched them when they were kids. That's still no excuse, though. I saw the prequels when I was a kid, but I at least grew up and realized how bad they are.
@TheApostleofRock
@TheApostleofRock 8 жыл бұрын
I think I'm rather in the middle. I watched the originals first when I was young and then wanted to see the prequels. They were ok at that time. Later I went back and watched them all and felt that the originals blew the prequels away in almost everyway. I absolutely refuse to watch 1 again, watching 2 takes a bit of courage. I say 3 wasn't the worse thing that ever happened. 4,5,6, and probably even 7 were better in my book tl:dr I feel 1 and 2 are objectively awful, 3 is ok, and then the originals are pretty fucking good. Second half of Rogue One is also incredible.
@TheMajorActual
@TheMajorActual 7 жыл бұрын
"Darth Jar Jar" is a whole more believable than this.
@gwenwalravens8030
@gwenwalravens8030 7 жыл бұрын
Snoke is actually DJJ with a scoobi-doo mask and a voice modulator. No wonder they didn't want to reveal his identity. That's for the SW mystery spin-off: Maz Kanata and the pirate smugglers - A Star Wars Story.
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 5 жыл бұрын
It's a joke dude
@jfrsnjhnsn
@jfrsnjhnsn 8 жыл бұрын
Padme did not "fall" for Anakin in Phantom Menace which I wouldn't even bother to post, except that you say it maybe 30 times, she very clearly just thought he was a cute little kid and she took care of him like a babysitter would.
@JeoshuaCollins
@JeoshuaCollins 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Which is why it's strange that the second and third movies treat it as if she was in love with him the whole time, when it was clearly not that kind of relationship.
@kmadoom
@kmadoom 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd want to bang my babysitter
@chuckhoyle1211
@chuckhoyle1211 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, but there would be serious issues if the babysitter wanted to bang YOU. As has been stated MANY times here, women are not attracted to younger boys they met when the male is a child. As a general rule, women are not attracted to much younger men (10+ years) until they are in their mid-30s. I believe that is mostly due to teenage boys being morons. Yes, I was a teenage boy, and, yes, I was a moron. I have teenage boys and they are morons.
@ianpg9891
@ianpg9891 8 жыл бұрын
Same!
@luckdragongirl
@luckdragongirl 8 жыл бұрын
It's still difficult to fall in love with someone who you've known when they were a child unless you were also a child. Unless the time spent with the child was very brief and there were years of separation before meeting again and falling in love. I'm not saying women (or men) can't fall in love with people who are younger than them, but for the majority of those cases, both parties met as adults when they fell in love, never meeting as adult (or teen) and child. It's easy to imagine a child crushing on an adult though. Anakin falling in love with Padme is understandable, but Padme falling in love with Anakin is improbable.
@GOODEUSMAXIMUS
@GOODEUSMAXIMUS 8 жыл бұрын
I cant see old Ben and Luke with out thinking "49 times we fought that beast, your old man and me"
@scotiadragoon5974
@scotiadragoon5974 8 жыл бұрын
Dammit!... now I have to go watch that again... and again...
@riedstep
@riedstep 8 жыл бұрын
she had a chicken head with duck feet, and a woman's head too.
@Mattteus
@Mattteus 8 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing now I have that song stuck in my head
@hydrangeadragon
@hydrangeadragon 8 жыл бұрын
and she was waiting in the bushes for them
@RENEEVEE133
@RENEEVEE133 8 жыл бұрын
that's just a big cow
@sapphic_sophie
@sapphic_sophie 8 жыл бұрын
I think that this works better with a steven/Pearl situation. You know, Obi was in love with Padme and they had a thing, but eventually she chose Anakin instead. After she dies, Obi Wan decides to raise her and anakin's son to make up for his mistakes.
@frankbell9415
@frankbell9415 8 жыл бұрын
Aidypie yes!! This is a much better story. The videos was a bit too far fetched, yours is a lot more sensible
@sapphic_sophie
@sapphic_sophie 8 жыл бұрын
Frank Bell Haha, thanks :D
@MorthmKoturma
@MorthmKoturma 8 жыл бұрын
Aidypie I agree that makes more sense
@holleymaher2685
@holleymaher2685 8 жыл бұрын
That's actually kind of how I always watched the movie. I didn't think there was a physical "thing" that happened, but the subtext seemed to be that Obi Wan cared a bit too deeply for her
@PhilipWester
@PhilipWester 8 жыл бұрын
Nah, the novelizations of prequels make it clear that the person who Obi-Wan is in love with is... Anakin (also, Anakin loves him back). There's liberal use of the word "love" both ways, Padmé has a moment of introspection where she basically acknowledges that yes, Obi-Wan is her rival when it comes to Anakin's affection and he loves them both equally. When Anakin gets hurt during a mission, Obi-Wan and Padmé have a love-off where they basically compete over who loves Anakin more and then there's a section where Obi-Wan wakes up while being carried by Anakin with Anakin's butt right in front of his face and spends an entire page ruminating on the wonders of Anakin's butt.
@Mini-Toast_
@Mini-Toast_ 7 жыл бұрын
What's next, Luke is actually Targaryen?
@takix2007
@takix2007 7 жыл бұрын
Kittycutie he's the love child if Maester Aemon and a Mole Town girl. Luke Snow's the name. Turned it into "Skywalker" to make it look more fancy.
@morganyoung3557
@morganyoung3557 6 жыл бұрын
Kittycutie how did you know that this was exactly where this was going?
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 5 жыл бұрын
This concocted reinterpretting of the Prequels would be better if you atleast ACKNOWLEDGED PRINCESS LEIA THE TWIN!?! WTF if you add her in and that her adopted parents also communicated with ObiWan who she knew spoke with as a FRIEND ONLY HOPE then it comes together better. No mention of Princess Leia make it lacking in grounded textual proof
@evahdarth4406
@evahdarth4406 5 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@markwhite116
@markwhite116 8 жыл бұрын
She obviously hasn't seen clone wars
@endlessfreedomful
@endlessfreedomful 7 жыл бұрын
prequel are far away from bad movies, especially EP III
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 8 жыл бұрын
I've got my own fan theory that actually dovetails nicely with this one: Padme never legitimately fell in love with Anakin. He spent all of Ep 2 attempting to Jedi Mind Trick her into submission. Just watch the fireplace scene and assume that every time he squints, he's poking at her mind. Then extend that to the whole movie. *It works.* And it makes her out-of-nowhere and way too strident declaration of love in the Arena make so much more sense. Then, along with this vid, you've got yourself a legitimate love triangle going on that also mirrors the Light vs Dark themes of all the Star Wars movies, with the battleground being Padme's heart and soul.
@MrRynox52719
@MrRynox52719 8 жыл бұрын
totally, even if he does it without truly knowing. also makes sense how those jedi can 'see' the future, since they are directly influencing others with the force they can 'make' the future happen the way they see it.
@michaelwilson6480
@michaelwilson6480 8 жыл бұрын
also why they're not allowed to have relationships because they may not have a loving committed equal partnership, they could be mind raping their spouse and no one would really know...?
@DuskMindAbyss
@DuskMindAbyss 8 жыл бұрын
Great theory, actually. It works perfectly with this video's theory. It makes for a perfect way to see the prequels in a new light.
@infernodarkfrost
@infernodarkfrost 8 жыл бұрын
so Anikin did a Cosby on Padme.
@admiral5960
@admiral5960 8 жыл бұрын
>implying Padme is simple minded enough to be mind tricked.
@paulolameiras861
@paulolameiras861 7 жыл бұрын
Jar Jar once spoke to Padme. Wait...i have a new theory!
@suraa4372
@suraa4372 6 жыл бұрын
Paulo Lameiras don't forget she made him senator...
@markbosy2065
@markbosy2065 6 жыл бұрын
I like them but not love them like the original trilogy
@tsopmocful1958
@tsopmocful1958 5 жыл бұрын
He had a really long tongue.
@vogonp4287
@vogonp4287 4 жыл бұрын
@@suraa4372 Jar Jar used the force to manipulate her into making him a senator.
@AnonURnot
@AnonURnot 7 жыл бұрын
I am the only one that actually genuinely likes the prequels?
@nataliaespinola6707
@nataliaespinola6707 7 жыл бұрын
MrSpinel You're not alone. I also like the prequels, probably even more than the originals
@AnonURnot
@AnonURnot 7 жыл бұрын
Natalia Espinola Basically everyone shits on the prequels and Anakin, but I believe Anakins fall is the darkest thing to happen in any of the films. The prequels aren't perfect but they're really good. And like you said, I also might like them more than the originals.
@sultaanahmad3589
@sultaanahmad3589 6 жыл бұрын
You ain't alone at all buddy! Trust me, voices of reason don't need to speak that loudly, that's why you hear these idiots more than us :) Eps. 1-6 will always be true Star Wars, the most tragic, epic, fun, adventurous, and wondrous story ever told, no amount of stupid KZbin videos is gonna change that.
@loserkai
@loserkai 6 жыл бұрын
MrSpinel no
@aurorauplinks
@aurorauplinks 6 жыл бұрын
even the people who whine about the prequels secretely love them, but its a hate love relationship, its not the films we wanted, the prequel haters wanted a continuation of solo organa skywalker chewbaco R2D2 C3PO Fett... the whole getting to see what makes the characters who and what they are in the form of the expanded universe settings, events, worlds, parents, siblings/neighbors etc is very appealing, thiers just alota moaping over not getting to see hte post return of the jedi events with han luke leia chewi the new republic the empire remnants etc... and then not to get to see that all again after 7 through 9 comes out is extra salt in the wounds... which Ryan Johnson so kindly points out with hte Salty planet they fight on in 8 :) i actually appreciate the hilarious choices he does for alot of it lol
@mbanerjee5889
@mbanerjee5889 8 жыл бұрын
TL;DR This theory does not make the story better. Things that bother me about this theory: 1. If Obi Wan is the father of the twins, he just didn’t give a shit about Leia. 2. It ruins the parallels of Luke’s story to Vader’s, not to mention that is completely screws up Force Awakens. This means that family fucking up the galaxy is the Kenobi’s not the Skywalker’s. And Kylo Ren is actually worshiping his grandmother’s semi-love interest that has no connection to him at all. 3. Obi Wan sleeping with his best friend’s wife is such betrayal to his character. And if Padme liked Obi Wan, she sure as hell is sending mixed signals to Anakin like going on romantic getaways, kissing him, marrying him in secret, sleeping with him, etc. What would be Padme’s motivation to manipulate Anakin if she wanted Obi Wan? Why would she “lose the will to live”? 4. In Ep.I, their ages are Anakin 9, Padme 14, and Obi Wan 25. While it makes sense for Padme to have crush on a 25 year old, it’s pretty cringe worthy for Obi Wan to crush on a 14 year old. Padme and Anakin’s early friendship was just that, a friendship. Their platonic bond doesn’t change until 10 years later when Padme realizes Anakin got hot. (It’s like all the mothers that suddenly got the hots for Justin Bieber when he turned 18). Padme and Obi Wan’s relationship seems more like brother/sister. The prequels fine, just accept that Jar Jar is the Sith Lord that orchestrated the decent of Anakin.
@AnthonySforza
@AnthonySforza 8 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's one of those things where Obi Wan didn't know if the twins were his. So it's not that he didn't care about Leia, he just did what he thought was best for her and not having someone to take Luke, he thought it best to be keeping an eye on his maybe son. Which could be why he's so vague about such things. Unless... do you think they had like, medichlorine detectors, to tell who is someone's father? Like DNA? I don't know, I'm totally being devil's advocate here.
@nikeayuiop
@nikeayuiop 8 жыл бұрын
"Obi Wan didn't know if the twins were his" hahahahaha Padme is such a bitch hahaha
@Kevin-sx8wh
@Kevin-sx8wh 8 жыл бұрын
Or maybe they aren't his. There. Fixed everything.
@benvoliothefirst
@benvoliothefirst 8 жыл бұрын
To retort, with all due respect: 1. This is a universe filled with deceit and secrets. "Thanks Obi-Wan, I appreciate you taking care of my one and only baby," is totally something that a Padme who lost everything would say to him before she slipped away to her second, even-more-secret-er kid. 2. I actually think it should be a mystery for the whole series whether the kids are Obi's or Anakin's, makes things more mysterious! And confusing! Like the real world! 3. I'm totally okay with the idea that Padme REALLY loved Obi-Wan, but got manipulated into marrying Anakin by his subconscious force-manipulation. And Obi-Wan is a total pimp, as evinced by Empress Satine. 4. Padme and Obi can absolutely be friends in Ep 1 and secret/forbidden lovers in Ep 2.
@dudewithahat5260
@dudewithahat5260 8 жыл бұрын
I've seen enough Steve Wilkos, Jerry Springer and Maurey to know that just because you think a kid is yours doesn't make it so. Regardless Kylo Ren is still worshiping his forefather sith. If you remember at one point in history all Spartans thought they had the blood of hercules, you must consider how how the passing of time effects what we know. I myself come from a family who's grandfather lied to my grandmother about his name and now he has great grandchildren that bare a last name that didn't exist before his marriage. I still use this name even if it is not proper to what my name should be. Whether being named Kenobi or Skywalker it does not change what or who Kylo Ren is from the perspective of his chosen actions, as I said earlier, he very well would worship Vader even if he was a Kenobi because he is darkside.
@Yvaelle
@Yvaelle 8 жыл бұрын
This, combined with the knowledge of Jar Jar Binks being Darth Plagueis, makes the prequels 1000x times better.
@dylanvickers7953
@dylanvickers7953 8 жыл бұрын
Darth Plagueis is a Mun. They look nothing like gungans.
@Yvaelle
@Yvaelle 8 жыл бұрын
Atticus Lee That's just what he wanted you to think.
@burbanpoison2494
@burbanpoison2494 8 жыл бұрын
jar jar is Darth plagueis, BUT Darth plagueis is secretly the hero, because he's the only one who successfully restrains Darth Vader, by force-warping the very fabric of galactic society to keep Darth Vader as the NUMBER TWO man INSIDE the walls of government. otherwise, Vader goes rogue, builds his own army, and either takes over the galaxy with billions of casualties OR goes back out to tattooine, where "the republic doesn't exist" and builds is own hellish kingdom, where he is challenged by no one and fucks a hundred planets to death until the day he dies.
@JonnyBgamer
@JonnyBgamer 8 жыл бұрын
i am more open to the theory that jar jar is a force sensitive puppet being used by plagueis who trains his pawn to hide himself from the jedi much the same as both palpatine and plageius does themselves, jar jar isn't crazy powerful or anything just skilled and trained enough to hide in plain sight.or u could take plagueis out and say jar jar was plapatine's secret agent
@WiscoDrinks
@WiscoDrinks 8 жыл бұрын
fo sho
@DouglasDundee
@DouglasDundee 8 жыл бұрын
This really ruins episode V though. "No, I am your father. Except, not really lol xD"
@LukSter18998
@LukSter18998 8 жыл бұрын
Chandler Bing Exactly!
@d.e.b.b5788
@d.e.b.b5788 8 жыл бұрын
Just rephrase it........'Who's ya Daddy!'
@louis250994
@louis250994 8 жыл бұрын
ESB 2018 special edition: He told me you killed him! Yes, he is your father.
@BulletTooth504
@BulletTooth504 8 жыл бұрын
"I am your daddy."
@ViperChief117
@ViperChief117 8 жыл бұрын
Chandler Bing Luke I Am Your Father=Mandela Effect.
@amfcapone
@amfcapone 7 жыл бұрын
A better way to watch would be to see jar jar as the secret sith. He is the phantom menace.
@ethanboyd6885
@ethanboyd6885 8 жыл бұрын
On a side note: If you think about it, Padme had the largest role in creating the Imperial Empire and allowing the Sith to win. A) It was her vote as a senator that ultimately gave Palpatine his executive powers, there-fore creating a galactic dictatorship. B) Her relationship with Anakin is what ultimately drove Anakin towards the dark side. - Had Padme not been in the picture, Palpatine would have not only been without a _second-to-none_ apprentice, but would not have been granted the power by the senate that he was. Makes you think if actually all along *she* was either Palp's apprentice, or at very least an agent of the dark side.
@marygrace3665
@marygrace3665 8 жыл бұрын
mmmmm okay, you can have your theories, but i'll remind you that a) padme was 14 when she advocated for palpatine to be the chancellor, and on the same note i'll remind you that he's probably the most powerful force-user in the galaxy at this point and also a master manipulator. and b) padme isn't responsible for anakin's issues, full stop. there was literally no way that she could have anticipated or stopped his fall. also, had padme not been in the picture, palpatine would still be pulling anakin's strings like the gross, creepy puppetmaster he is.
@DuoXCity
@DuoXCity 8 жыл бұрын
If you read the Republic Commando books, you find out that Palpatine is way more of a string puller than the movies actually show you. There was little chance of him not getting his way.
@jumpstart55million
@jumpstart55million 8 жыл бұрын
Or maybe stay with me....She was just dumb.
@PositivelyNegativeOfficial
@PositivelyNegativeOfficial 8 жыл бұрын
You really expect us to believe that Padme pulled the "Anakin, have sex with me so we can have babies!" when they really aren't his babies trick? How does that explain Vader telling Luke that he's his father? Surely if Obi Wan is Luke's father than when Vader says "search your feelings.. you know it to be true" Luke would've said "Nah, you ain't my dad". The force doesn't lie. It isn't gonna convince Luke that Vader is his dad if he's actually Obi Wan's son. There's just too many plot holes in this idea. Sure it provides a different perspective on the films and might be fun to imagine but at the end of the day... it just isn't true.
@markmeason1244
@markmeason1244 8 жыл бұрын
Anakin was the virgin birth and Obi Wan died a virgin. The circle is now complete.
@burbanpoison2494
@burbanpoison2494 8 жыл бұрын
for anybody who didn't go to catholic school, let me explain- "virgin birth" is a theological term that means "minor impregnated by celibate clergyman"
@burbanpoison2494
@burbanpoison2494 8 жыл бұрын
so yeah... obi-wan's the father.
@burbanpoison2494
@burbanpoison2494 8 жыл бұрын
and also Luke and Leia aren't twins. Luke is actually five years older, but that information could get obi-wan in a lot of trouble, so they just separated him from the girl and transferred him to a quiet parish on tattooine.
@melp4111
@melp4111 8 жыл бұрын
Max, I always knew her baby bump was too small for twins of that maturity! Added to fan theory.
@Casvaleon
@Casvaleon 8 жыл бұрын
wrong he had a thing with the peaceful mandalorian leader
@mayavale4926
@mayavale4926 6 жыл бұрын
Ok just stop. 1) Padmé only fell in love with me about half way through Attack of the Clones. 2) Its only a four year age gap between me and Padmé, but Obi wan is 11 years older than Padmé. 3) Padmé would never cheat on me 4) Padmé didn’t request a bodyguard, Palpatine made her 5) Obi-Wan would never break the Jedi code 6) When I was a young boy, she didn’t fall for me, she was only nice to me because I was a kid, she actually fell in love with me when I was an adult. 7) You offended me
@gamersinacontainer
@gamersinacontainer 4 жыл бұрын
And Obi-Wan was already seeing someone. I also don't appreciate how rude she was towards you.
@geckomoriadaimyoofwano7157
@geckomoriadaimyoofwano7157 4 жыл бұрын
Master Skywalker!!! Its such an honor. May the force be with yoou, i loved the prequels
@wektur8848
@wektur8848 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny reading this after you've changed your nickname but other than that i agree
@madsras42
@madsras42 8 жыл бұрын
Only a woman would think that introducing a love triangle makes a movie better.
@Zoozeeman
@Zoozeeman 8 жыл бұрын
Mads Rasmussen 😂😂😂😂
@ThePhenom72586
@ThePhenom72586 8 жыл бұрын
Mads Rasmussen Mads Rasmussen HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMAOOOOOOOO 👍🏽👏🏽
@karolryszawy2531
@karolryszawy2531 8 жыл бұрын
Mads, you've nailed it bro XD
@GieterHero
@GieterHero 8 жыл бұрын
Seriously, she calls the prequels an abomination of what star wars stood for, then to "improve" it she adds more of a big reason why they sucked (cheesy love plot).
@wompWompWooooooomp
@wompWompWooooooomp 8 жыл бұрын
Mads Rasmussen I honestly think a love triangle would weaken it for me , ruined Arrow's season 2-4.
@noahwayne7095
@noahwayne7095 8 жыл бұрын
Maggie is hardly a genius, I don't think she payed much attention to Star Wars at all. Padme never requested a guardian in Ep II - in fact she categorically disliked the idea. Obi Wan himself reminded Anakin to be careful about emotions and to be true to the Jedi order in Ep. II - why would he go and break that rule himself by having an affair?.............he was later elevated to the level of Jedi Master (ie: someone who follows the rules) and joined the Jedi Council. If he were to have sex, especially an affair, he would be selfish - effectively embracing the dark side - which is something the Council would have sensed. Besides its cannon from the Clone Wars animated series that he had a romance with Satine. Your point about Padme touching Obi Wan's thigh is ridiculous - she was trying to make sure he was safely on board the animal, where else could she have touched him? As for the age difference point, that too is wrong. Padme was 14 when Anakin was 9 and Obi Wan is in his mid 20s. She is far more closer to Anakin's age than to Obi Wan's age. Also at the end of Ep I she wasn't looking to Anakin in some sort of romantic way, but in friendship..........she was sympathetic to this kid who was separated from his mother. If you bothered to pay attention, she and Anakin spent time getting to know each other and she spent no time at all with Obi Wan. You made a point in Ep II that Padme was concerned about Obi Wan when he was in danger on Geonosis as some sort of romantic implication. Wrong. She was just a good person. If you recall, Padme fell out of a ship while chasing Dooku and Anakin wanted to land the ship and was very passionate about it, however Obi Wan could not care less and reminded Anakin to focus on Dooku. Speaking of Dooku, after he messed up Obi Wan and Anakin and he came to a draw with Yoda, Padme rushed towards Anakin NOT Obi Wan. The vision Anakin had wasn't about an affair but it clearly shows Padme in trouble. Even if Obi Wan was somehow the father, why would he happily watch over Luke and not Leia? Most fathers are attached to their daughters, he would have to be pretty cold and/or sexist to just give away his daughter. In Ep IV, Obi Wan is hesitant to tell Luke about his dad because who wants to hear their father is the most evil man in the galaxy? It makes no narrative sense for Obi Wan to lie if he was the real father, at that point Luke just knows Vader as pure evil, why would Obi Wan feel uncomfortable? He wouldn't have to know the details about the affair. The Emperor himself knew Luke was Vader's kid - he could sense it, he said so in Empire Strikes Back. If Luke wasn't Vader's kid, don't you think the Emperor would use that knowledge to further fuel Vader's hatred and subsequent strength in the dark side? In summary, your interpretation is filled with flat out wrong facts, really bad interpretations, and terrible conclusions.
@autumndae5774
@autumndae5774 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you...I agree 100%
@AngryNerdBird
@AngryNerdBird 8 жыл бұрын
This entire video is a hyperbolic jest. Learn to take an obvious joke.
@roxomega
@roxomega 8 жыл бұрын
The point Goat is jest better, learn to comprehend.
@noahwayne7095
@noahwayne7095 8 жыл бұрын
Goatmon eh, pretty bad joke. A lot of her "facts" are just wrong. Not that funny. But thats just my take.
@Yeagerbonebone
@Yeagerbonebone 8 жыл бұрын
she is so stupid
@deanmorrow4083
@deanmorrow4083 7 жыл бұрын
If Anakin had killed Jar Jar that would have been a better movie.
@courtneyrose5507
@courtneyrose5507 6 жыл бұрын
Dean Morrow lel tru
@morganyoung3557
@morganyoung3557 6 жыл бұрын
xiiyaenxzi in the words of Regina George, stop trying to make Darth Jar Jar happen. Darth Jar Jar is nothing but a fan theory and there is really nothing but fan speculation to prove that he was secretly a Sith Lord. Also what would be the point plot wise to have him secretly be a Sith Lord?
@morganyoung3557
@morganyoung3557 6 жыл бұрын
Dean Morrow I have one better, Jar Jar not existing would have been a better movie.
@aurorauplinks
@aurorauplinks 6 жыл бұрын
i have a feeling that was the original plans to some degree to have anakin fight either jar jar or someone that he thought was jar jar
@aurorauplinks
@aurorauplinks 6 жыл бұрын
why do all the sithe lords have to be out and about declaring their sithness? some sithlords just want to quietly read in a librarian and stare ravishingly at statues of fellow sithe lords they absolutely would demolish in bed if they could drag them back to the planet they are waging a war against
@Bladezer3000
@Bladezer3000 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this whole theory falls apart completely when Padme only started to have feelings for Anakin in Attack of the Clones, not the Phantom Menace. Literally the only reference to a Padme/Anakin pairing in Phantom Menace is that Anakin sees Padme as beautiful, guessing from the dialogue there's a slight suggestion he's crushing on Padme, but I'd say that's really just an innocent child like crush, not a burning sexual attraction.
@Luisteing
@Luisteing 3 жыл бұрын
In adittion I think she hasnt even watch clone wars
@harrambou9468
@harrambou9468 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thank you. She missed a few things, that being one of em.
@harrambou9468
@harrambou9468 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luisteing She did miss a few things but she’s referring to the trilogy in isolation
@jedidand8807
@jedidand8807 8 жыл бұрын
"Closer to her age" WRONG!!!!!!!! Obi-Wan is not closer to her age. Obi-Wan is 25, Padme is 14, Anakin is 9.
@JediDanD
@JediDanD 8 жыл бұрын
She's not even a Princess; she's a Queen; elected Queen.
@singularityghost6290
@singularityghost6290 8 жыл бұрын
JediDanD pretty sure she means the actors age, genius. Regardless, it paints anakin as an even more ham fisted buffoon that padme only tolerated because he was obi wans friend/responsibility
@dragonrings14
@dragonrings14 8 жыл бұрын
Jake Lloyd and Natalie Portman are 8 years apart whereas Portman and McGregor are 10 years apart. She's still closer in age to Anakin either way you look at it.
@singularityghost6290
@singularityghost6290 8 жыл бұрын
Mcregor wasn't in the first one. And since that came first, it has to be the one others are based on. An obvious 8 year old, a 20~something, and another 20~something.
@JediDanD
@JediDanD 8 жыл бұрын
Natalie Portman was only 17 when Episode I was released in theaters. Yes, McGregor was in "the first one", he's the one playing Obi-Wan through the entire trilogy.
@PiscesEP
@PiscesEP 8 жыл бұрын
this kinda falls apart when Obi Wan asks Padme "Anakin is the father isn't he, i'm so sorry" when he tells her Anakin turned to the dark side.
@brik-hobbit7638
@brik-hobbit7638 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@jonathanslater1397
@jonathanslater1397 7 жыл бұрын
Shh!
@schrottadresse3995
@schrottadresse3995 7 жыл бұрын
yeah also the fact that the force is strong in luke and lea cause it runs in the skywalker family, which is the whole point if everything
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 7 жыл бұрын
Thank You! This video is tying to ruin my reputation.
@kartarbhogal
@kartarbhogal 7 жыл бұрын
I don't believe in this theory but even if there is a chance it's true, that reinforces it because it suggests he's slept with Padme aswell and he's checking if the babies are his or Anakin's
@gangofheroes
@gangofheroes 8 жыл бұрын
or just remove Jar Jar and shorten the Senate scenes.
@R5d4d2
@R5d4d2 8 жыл бұрын
And disintegrate the "Roger, Roger" droids.
@SelvesteSand
@SelvesteSand 8 жыл бұрын
+R5d4d2 Yes, please. Most annoying things in Star Wars: 1) Stupid battle droids 2) People in armor getting knocked out by a stick or a tiny stone 3) C-3PO 4) Jar Jar But the senate scenes were great!
@zealot491
@zealot491 8 жыл бұрын
SelvesteSand I agree. Those scenes gave some context for everything else that was going on and how the Emperor rose to power. Really cool imo. I think completely removing this from Ep. 7 was a mistake.
@grandmofftarkin344
@grandmofftarkin344 8 жыл бұрын
Jar Jar is dank though if you look up the 'Darth Jar Jar Theory".
@iqpok
@iqpok 8 жыл бұрын
There is a bit more to fix than just Jar Jar and the senate. Like make the romance believable, write better dialog, better casting choices, better use of great actors, giving the clones some personality so there are stakes in the war....
@cyrusyoder4789
@cyrusyoder4789 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so tired of the prequels getting hate. THEY'RE NOT BAD MOVIES
@MauricioPlaza
@MauricioPlaza 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, they are horrible movies.
@bisonjoy70
@bisonjoy70 6 жыл бұрын
Oh c'mon, Anakin was terribly acted in 2 & 3
@demilovatosbiggestpotatoe504
@demilovatosbiggestpotatoe504 6 жыл бұрын
I don't have w problem with 2 and 3 but I hated 1
@ConnorJacquet
@ConnorJacquet 6 жыл бұрын
they’re terrible movies
@ConnorJacquet
@ConnorJacquet 6 жыл бұрын
It’s a good era but the movies are horribly made
@aluisious
@aluisious 8 жыл бұрын
How to make a better Star Wars prequel: 1) Make a movie about Revan. 2) What the fuck are you waiting for?
@profrickshaw
@profrickshaw 8 жыл бұрын
3) Hey, Disney we're lookin' at you!
@monkey9208
@monkey9208 8 жыл бұрын
+Isaac Kramer lol
@ernestosandoval23
@ernestosandoval23 8 жыл бұрын
Not just about Revan, also a movie about Darth Bane too!
@Tydrelin
@Tydrelin 8 жыл бұрын
been saying that for years, finally someone agrees with me!
@steelheretic8265
@steelheretic8265 8 жыл бұрын
Revan's already had a fully flushed out story in the games. Plus taking away the choice that the audience would get to make in a game and replacing it with one sided writing would kinda ruin his character. I vote instead for making star wars legends cannon again, later in the galactic storyline, and making a Darth Krayt movie.
@baseballlover312
@baseballlover312 8 жыл бұрын
But I'm already secretly in love with Padme. Now I have Anakin AND Obi Wan to compete with. Fack.
@XplodingTurtle
@XplodingTurtle 8 жыл бұрын
baseballlover312 i dont think youll survive. Sorry man
@fv2977
@fv2977 8 жыл бұрын
And not to forget Thor.
@Azire
@Azire 8 жыл бұрын
baseballlover312 i'm in love with both Obi Wan and Anakin, and I'm even more jealous of Padme
@mikailshub6861
@mikailshub6861 8 жыл бұрын
baseballlover312 and me
@StarlingNite
@StarlingNite 7 жыл бұрын
baseballlover312 well it looks like a duel to the death then... I'll bring the popcorn for my own enjoyment
@jackthedinohunter1199
@jackthedinohunter1199 8 жыл бұрын
No, obi won had a lover in the clone wars and she died
@loserkai
@loserkai 7 жыл бұрын
jack the dino hunter ikr,so sad😢
@misdreavuscharizard4934
@misdreavuscharizard4934 7 жыл бұрын
jack the dino hunter and clone wars is canon
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 7 жыл бұрын
We were not lovers.
@misdreavuscharizard4934
@misdreavuscharizard4934 7 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan Kenobi you're a terrible liar
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 7 жыл бұрын
We were just friends by then. Maybe we had feelings for each other when we were younger but we never acted on those feelings and by the time the Clone Wars started we had not seen each other for years. I'm not trying to be coy, out lives just took different paths.
@ThePotatoSmasher
@ThePotatoSmasher 7 жыл бұрын
I liked the prequels
@michaelcherokee8906
@michaelcherokee8906 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I dont understand why so many people bash them so hard.
@MimMdance
@MimMdance 4 жыл бұрын
If Chuck Norris said it there should be no further discussion. EVER.
@wahabihobofilms7427
@wahabihobofilms7427 8 жыл бұрын
But... But Duchess Satine...
@killgriffinnow
@killgriffinnow 8 жыл бұрын
Well maybe after her death Obi Wan considered another option...
@PropheticShadeZ
@PropheticShadeZ 8 жыл бұрын
it has flaws, but i think that if this were true with some small modifications to the lore it would make the prequels better
@cloud_and_proud
@cloud_and_proud 8 жыл бұрын
Woops, Clone Wars isn't canon... Right? Right guys...?
@Chazbc
@Chazbc 8 жыл бұрын
Satine? What's with Ewan McGregor and Satines?
@cloud_and_proud
@cloud_and_proud 8 жыл бұрын
TheSavageNerds I know, it was a joke.
@lildubbs1
@lildubbs1 8 жыл бұрын
New Cracked series with likable new pretty lady Maggie? Pilot about my favorite movie series of all time? New interesting theory that would've made Star Wars much, much deeper and much more incredible? I've fallen in love with Cracked all over again.
@FirstnameLastname-li9gs
@FirstnameLastname-li9gs 8 жыл бұрын
AGREED please do more with Maggie Mae Fish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE Cracked !!!
@MaggieMaeFish
@MaggieMaeFish 8 жыл бұрын
I DO IT FOR YOUUUUUU!
@lildubbs1
@lildubbs1 8 жыл бұрын
Marry me (:
@JeffDeanTheDeanZone
@JeffDeanTheDeanZone 8 жыл бұрын
Do one about Back to the Future and how Doc Brown was really an evil genius, manipulating the space time continuum and using Marty McFly as his guinea pig. (Why not he used his own dog as one). Doc Brown is a dangerous sociopath (turns out Principal Strickland was right all along). Everything that happened to Marty was PLANNED by Doc because he was experimenting with the effects of changes to the past and paradoxes. This is a GOOD ONE, I was going to do it myself but you're kind of cute, so I give it to you.
@katx9697
@katx9697 8 жыл бұрын
Cough, cough Fraternal Twins can have two father's.
@ztalenthackzz9491
@ztalenthackzz9491 8 жыл бұрын
So Darth Vader isn't Luke's father? That ruins the whole saga.
@callmepotato
@callmepotato 7 жыл бұрын
No way. It makes it way better. Luke is Obi-Wan's child. Killing Obi-Wan didn't take away his anger, and attempting to kill Obi-Wan's son didn't either. So Vader hatches a scheme to surprise him at Cloud City and wear him down physically and psychologically so he could fuck with his head. He knew Luke's parentage would be in question, so just to be a bastard and really destroy his enemy's son and get a better revenge, he waits for a weak moment and then pounces on him by claiming to be his father. If you view all of it that way, it's so much more epic. Vader's motivations make more sense. Why would he want to try to kill his own son or fail to recognize him the first time he saw him? It's an elaborate revenge plot! Way more interesting.
@pubcle
@pubcle 7 жыл бұрын
No, it destroys every single thing that Star Wars stood for, it ruins the very core of the franchise, the beating heart that is the original trilogy.
@callmepotato
@callmepotato 7 жыл бұрын
Or it adds a whole new layer of depth...
@pubcle
@pubcle 7 жыл бұрын
How? How does it actually make any sense to the story as a whole in any way? It doesn't make any sense at all on the ending of the movie certainly at all, it completely destroys those scenes. Then you have Yoda lying, you have a complete break of Kenobi's character, you have broke one of the biggest plot twists in cinema history, you have the kind of cheese the prequels were criticized for taken to a much further level, it retcons half the story and is really, really dumb. It destroys the story. It breaks Vader's progression, it breaks Kenobi's character, it destroys the main story that the entire universe is built around.
@chechong2439
@chechong2439 7 жыл бұрын
It would actually not break the story or characters if the twins had different fathers. Vader fathered Luke at the same time Obi Wan fathered Leah. Its biologically possible and only really destroys Padme's character a little. Obi Wan was never the most honorable Jedi Knight. He lied to Luke "stretching the truth". He was rebellious to the counsel. He had at least 1 other love affair. Padme's honor is in question here having 2 lovers but its not an uncommon thing at all. It would even explain a few things. Like why Vader figured out that Luke is his son after only a few chance meetings and not Leah who, being a senator, I'm sure he's had much more contact with. He interrogated her and never got so much as a sense that something was strange about her. When he figures out Leah is Luke's sister he says "Sister, you have a twin sister" He never uses the word daughter. He does mention Obi Wan's failure is complete. At most it might mess up Kylo in the new trilogy but we have yet to see what happens.
@christiansmith2849
@christiansmith2849 7 жыл бұрын
I don’t think she knows who Satine is…
@peksioart6706
@peksioart6706 6 жыл бұрын
RM Vikingos yeah
@Agent_3141
@Agent_3141 8 жыл бұрын
wrong. George did make a masterpiece. its called star wars
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 8 жыл бұрын
JPMB empire was better
@Agent_3141
@Agent_3141 8 жыл бұрын
No I mean Star Wars in general
@brooksbrooks6805
@brooksbrooks6805 8 жыл бұрын
JPMB well yes but this video say that George lucas could have made the Prequels a "masterpiece"... which is what they are deffinatley not..
@DonGonTheOne
@DonGonTheOne 8 жыл бұрын
If you mean the part 4 - 6 Masterpice Star Wars I agree.
@solrikben
@solrikben 8 жыл бұрын
Right you are sir, right you are! Fuck the haters...
@gillese9446
@gillese9446 8 жыл бұрын
Also imagine that Jar jar is a sith lord
@MalSint
@MalSint 8 жыл бұрын
Golles Hoshigaki he is, Lucas himself said so
@marcelomancheno6251
@marcelomancheno6251 8 жыл бұрын
Skorchinq Proof
@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743
@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743 7 жыл бұрын
He is. Disney is just waiting for the right moment to reveal it.
@darthbubbles2065
@darthbubbles2065 7 жыл бұрын
Get out of here
@moonie9000
@moonie9000 7 жыл бұрын
Now THAT would fix it. What a cunning bastard.
@shaungibson4527
@shaungibson4527 8 жыл бұрын
The only genuine problem these movies have that I see is the direction. If Lucas made someone else the director like with TESB and RotJ, these movies would have had the legendary status the originals had.
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 8 жыл бұрын
And if he'd let the actors ad-lib in better dialogue, like Harrison Ford did in the originals...
@crixxxxxxxxx
@crixxxxxxxxx 8 жыл бұрын
Shaun Gibson and hired a decent screenwriter, better actors, did more practical effects instead of CGI overkill, got rid of Jar Jar and every other stupid cartoon character, skipped the boring political crap, made the characters likable and endearing, made the plot make sense instead of being a nonsensical mess, you might be right.
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 8 жыл бұрын
lincolnlobster Ewan MacGreggor's a good actor when he's got decent material to work with. Just watch Trainspotting. Samuel L. Jackson could have been SO much fun as a motherfucking Jedi! And Christopher Lee. Christopher fucking Lee. No, there were good actors there. They just had nothing to work with.
@crixxxxxxxxx
@crixxxxxxxxx 8 жыл бұрын
neuralmute He is. I was mostly referring to the likes of Christensen, Portman, Jake Lloyd, etc. McGregor did a fine job as Obi Wan despite having no real direction or decent scripts.
@batt3ryac1d
@batt3ryac1d 8 жыл бұрын
The problem was no one would tell Lucas no. With the originals he had much less power over the decisions that were made.
@corbinhoevers
@corbinhoevers 6 жыл бұрын
Anakin and Padme are closer in age.
@apexa903
@apexa903 5 жыл бұрын
Anakin: 9 Padme: 14 Obi wan: 25
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he was still a kid when she met him...
@apexa903
@apexa903 5 жыл бұрын
Ann Nee yeh it is kinda strange
@legoroan9866
@legoroan9866 5 жыл бұрын
Ann Nee they were both kids
@loserkai
@loserkai 5 жыл бұрын
Ann Nee it's not like she fell in love with him when she met him. And even he did, it's better than her loving an adult.
@zachjohnson6445
@zachjohnson6445 8 жыл бұрын
the fact that this makes darth vader not the father ruins both the prequels and the original series
@LEOODARTHVADER2
@LEOODARTHVADER2 8 жыл бұрын
You didn't fix the second trilogy, you broke the original
@DIPDINO
@DIPDINO 8 жыл бұрын
LEOODARTHVADER2 so true
@mayiofferyousomealternativ7205
@mayiofferyousomealternativ7205 7 жыл бұрын
This is a joke right?
@MrJimheeren
@MrJimheeren 7 жыл бұрын
Tech Talk- Real Talk yes, how did you guess
@victorhugosanchezhernandez2695
@victorhugosanchezhernandez2695 7 жыл бұрын
Tech Talk- Real Talk search in your feelings, you know it is true
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 5 жыл бұрын
This concocted reinterpretting of the Prequels would be better if you atleast ACKNOWLEDGED PRINCESS LEIA THE TWIN!?! WTF if you add her in and that her adopted parents also communicated with ObiWan who she knew spoke with as a FRIEND ONLY HOPE then it comes together better. No mention of Princess Leia make it lacking in grounded textual proof
@furioustoco2824
@furioustoco2824 7 жыл бұрын
But then it ruins the line that star wars most famous line: Luke, I am your father
@mychemicalescape9581
@mychemicalescape9581 7 жыл бұрын
"No,I am your father."
@starlord7851
@starlord7851 7 жыл бұрын
Not, anymore. Lol
@WestonTeli
@WestonTeli 7 жыл бұрын
*step father
@cameronfarroll3616
@cameronfarroll3616 7 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader did not say that, he said; "No... I am your father."
@avernion
@avernion 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Oh, the epic fail xD
@chaumas
@chaumas 8 жыл бұрын
I don't see any comments complaining about this video, but I'm going to be angry about them preemptively. I like you, new Cracked lady, and I like your eyebrows.
@MaggieMaeFish
@MaggieMaeFish 8 жыл бұрын
My eyebrows do all my talking for me.
@jefflittle8913
@jefflittle8913 8 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that all the funny responses to that are sexist.
@bumbleWeaver
@bumbleWeaver 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeff Little SJW warrior much?
@jefflittle8913
@jefflittle8913 8 жыл бұрын
Bumble Weaver I don't know what you are talking about. I made a comment that I found amusing and a little bit mysterious. It would seem that not everybody has the same sense of humor.
@emiliomaisonet9150
@emiliomaisonet9150 8 жыл бұрын
then caterpillars are thick as fuck!
@MikeKojoteStone
@MikeKojoteStone 8 жыл бұрын
This... isn't half bad... It's surprisingly good, actually.
@painteasy
@painteasy 8 жыл бұрын
With this idea, you're making Star Wars into a teenager cliché romantic comedy.
@MeBeMat
@MeBeMat 8 жыл бұрын
And George Lucas' idea of what romantic dialog sounds like didn't do that already?
@littlerichardcranium1671
@littlerichardcranium1671 7 жыл бұрын
MeBeMat roasted Lucas like Obi Wan roasted Anikan.
@arosenheim
@arosenheim 7 жыл бұрын
No...it would be a teenager cliché romantic melodrama.
@RVNess
@RVNess 7 жыл бұрын
Isitop isn't it already? 😂
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 7 жыл бұрын
The Prequels were a masterpiece.....
@Brian19451
@Brian19451 8 жыл бұрын
Padme was 14 in Phantom Menace and Anakin was 9. Obi-Wan was at least in his mid-20s.
@williefreeman282
@williefreeman282 8 жыл бұрын
Truman Fleming enough said what 14 year old girl was looking at a nine-year-old think you are he's so hot as opposed to a 14 year old girl looking at a 20 something year old man thinking like wow
@benbryant8288
@benbryant8288 8 жыл бұрын
Truman Fleming thank you, Obi-Wan was 11 years older than Padme, THATS a gross age differents
@Brian19451
@Brian19451 8 жыл бұрын
No average 14 year old girl is sexually attracted to a grown man.
@Seafarer64
@Seafarer64 8 жыл бұрын
You should try talking to some 14yr old girls. Novel experience, to be sure.
@noahdavis7406
@noahdavis7406 8 жыл бұрын
Truman Fleming Actually, that's not really true.
@WesBea
@WesBea 8 жыл бұрын
those movies were fine if you pretend hayden christensen was a sociopath or someone with asperger's trying to act like a normal human which is honestly what i thought they were going for anyway.
@profrickshaw
@profrickshaw 8 жыл бұрын
+TheSammiPuppy George Lucas also may have intended Jar-Jar to be a villain. And people thought he was juvenile and it hurt Lucas's feelings.
@Clothy22
@Clothy22 8 жыл бұрын
You know a psychologist actually diagnosed him with borderline personality disorder.
@Phoenix5365
@Phoenix5365 8 жыл бұрын
Probably not BPD, but PTSD which can look very similar. He was a decent kid, but then stuff happened.
@CiabanItReal
@CiabanItReal 8 жыл бұрын
The sociopath thing explains him murdering a room full of children.
@Chrisealge
@Chrisealge 8 жыл бұрын
Reason for his actions are probably influenced by his upbringing. Remember he wasn't educated by a developed civilisation (the republic). he was a slave and came from a part of the galaxy that nobody cared about.
@MrCharrrles
@MrCharrrles 8 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows the real genius is Jar Jar being the true Sith Master controlling everything
@pyney15
@pyney15 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the prequals
@loganangel27
@loganangel27 4 жыл бұрын
same
@TheJanitorIsIn
@TheJanitorIsIn 8 жыл бұрын
Good job, new Maggie lady. You chose the right subject. Every time there's a new person presenting for Cracked, the comments section turn into the killing fields. But since you chose to make Star Wars controversial, they have stayed their hands and opted for arguing about the subject. Bravo!
@tylerstaley2667
@tylerstaley2667 8 жыл бұрын
You know it's funny, canonically, the age difference is way different. Anakin is nine, padme is fourteen, and obi wan is 25. so I see Anakin as the less creepy option. if I were to improve the prequels with only one major change, I'd do it by making Anakin fifteen. it'd be a nice homage to the original, and give credence to Luke and his very quick mastery of the force. it would also impressive other things. In episode one it could set up the very non creepy romance bit, it would give the council's initial decision more meaning (fifteen year olds are cocky assholes) it would make every single Anakin scene more believable, especially the accidental " I blew up the federation ship and won the war" thing. it would also shift the balance of the movie and dialogue so that he is more involved, and cutting out as much as possible of a certain unsavory individual. on to episode two. not a whole lot changes here, just make the time gap five years instead of ten, to accentuate his prodigy skill level, and to start a firm foundation with padme that is way less rapey, as instead of this weird cougar hunter thing, we can see a more mature, but fundamentally still cocky young adult, a real Han like character, with a lot more power that he takes granted and has fun with when no one's looking. As he wasn't really stunted by how young he left his mom, he isn't such a bitch, he had time before becoming a Jedi to get more world wise, and now instead of "I have to save my mommy" we get someone full of guilt, because at fifteen, he feels like there was more he could have done to save his mom, and it's a bit fresher in his mind. his relationship with obi wan is not too different, very junior cop to senior detective still, but makes more sense as the age gap isn't quite as large, and they've had the necessary closeness of age to develop a more equal brotherhood for episode three on to episode three. another five years pass, and while things aren't massively different, moms dead, he's secretly married, she's pregnant, he's found more equal footing with obi wan, but now instead of the weird emotionless to emotional mood swings he has cause he never had any real teenage development, he has some coping mechanisms, he's gotten to the point where he's ambitious. instead of the mess that was episode three, he advanced so quickly in the first five years to be a Jedi knight that he didn't quite understand why he isn't a master, and it's beyond his control, which makes him itch, he feels the need to be in control. he's chafing against the reins and that's the ultimate reason he turns, he wants to get more powerful quicker. not some fever dream of a dying padme, he just thinks he's the chosen one so he has to get more powerful. And his choice to turn should be earlier, something he hides from everyone from early on second act, and watch as they slowly realize it
@wallycarrott
@wallycarrott 8 жыл бұрын
At fourteen, Padme would probably still be in the middle of puberty, which makes Obi-Wan a much better choice for Padme what with all of her hormones dialled up to eleven.
@Caramirdan
@Caramirdan 8 жыл бұрын
Main reason I think Anakin is so young in Ep1 was that Lucas intended it for the 9-yo crowd. Explains Jar-Jar too.
@MaximumKahnage
@MaximumKahnage 8 жыл бұрын
even so she never showed any interest in ob1 probably because she was busy trying to save the planet she was in charge of and he was a jedi, she may have thought he was attractive that that doesn't mean shit and its only conjecture, where as she was interested in ani from the moment she met him though not sexually for obvious reasons in fact it wasn't until episode 2 that she became sexually attracted to him and if he didn't pursue her so relentlessly she wouldn't of got together with ani at all as she was mature and logical for her age and did not like to fantasize about foolish things as being a queen and then a senator takes a lot of time and hard work leaving little room for things like boys and relationships. seriously wtf people the story is there if you didn't grasp it watch it again its not complicated, its really not.
@DrTimes99
@DrTimes99 8 жыл бұрын
Good idea. I would put him at 13 though instead of 15. It's the perfect age to not be a child, but still have zero control of your life. Additionally, it would keep him younger than Padme, an important fact in their relationship. Anakin, powerless at age 13 would meet a queen only one year older than him. Already, she would seem very mature to him despite the lack of a real age gap. This would be a driving factor in his development during his Jedi training over the next 5 years. Anakin would work hard to prove himself a mature Jedi the next time he met Padme. When he does in episode 2, he would be 18 and she would be 19. Anakin would think that he'd matured enough for her only to realize that he had not. He was still a cocky kid and she a respected Senator. Although the relationship/marriage would still happen, Anakin would harbor feelings of inadequacy, which would push him even more towards ambition and power.
@RuneForumwalker
@RuneForumwalker 8 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with making Anakin fifteen in Episode 1, if for no other reason, for the fact that it would help to streamline the movie a bit more by taking out unnecessary plots in favor of expanding necessary character growth. What i mean by that is getting rid of Tatooine altogether and expanding the time they are on Naboo to start having the palace rescue mirror the Death Star rescue in A New Hope. I know, I know. TFA got shit on from aping ANH and Empire too much, but it all depends how how you do such things as if they ultimately work well.
@jayive34
@jayive34 8 жыл бұрын
Padmé is like 14 in Phantom Menace. Anakin is 9. Not that big of an age difference. This theory is even dumber than the Jar Jar one.
@santiagoleon9480
@santiagoleon9480 8 жыл бұрын
jayive34 if she was 14 then how was she a senator?
@jayive34
@jayive34 8 жыл бұрын
Santiago León It's Queen, and also, it's universe with magic space monks. I think a 14 years old queen is plausible.
@phix01
@phix01 8 жыл бұрын
This theory is fantastic. 14 year olds do NOT date down!
@jayive34
@jayive34 8 жыл бұрын
phix This theory is shit because she barely spoke to Obi Wan.
@Tocaraca
@Tocaraca 8 жыл бұрын
The Jar Jar one isn't dumb! Kappa
@MegaAwesomeNick
@MegaAwesomeNick 7 жыл бұрын
Personally I think a shoehorned in, teen drama, cliche ridden, love triangle would have made the movie worse. But, I am firmly against love trianges in any fiction so what do I know.
@1dareu2mov3
@1dareu2mov3 7 жыл бұрын
... except that Padmé doesn't fall in love with Anakin until halfway through Episode II. This is pretty clear based on the "Ani, you'll always be that little boy I knew on Tatooine" line.
@harrambou9468
@harrambou9468 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Ben.Babylon
@Ben.Babylon Жыл бұрын
And Anakin IS closer in age to Padme than Obi-Wan is. Just because this host wants to fulfill her fantasy with Ewan McGregor doesn’t make any of her points valid
@HobGungan
@HobGungan 8 жыл бұрын
George Lucas didn't almost accidentally make a masterpiece, he quite deliberately and successfully made 6 (well, 5 1/2, but we love Jedi anyway).
@germankenway
@germankenway 8 жыл бұрын
I actually kinda assumed Obi-Wan and Padmé had somethin' going on since the first time i watched the phantom menace
@saramecoolsuper
@saramecoolsuper 8 жыл бұрын
same
@idioticgaming6054
@idioticgaming6054 8 жыл бұрын
ACWDjack Both of you just stop.Its a movie and the whole Empire scene would be so worthless
@keithvaglienti1518
@keithvaglienti1518 6 жыл бұрын
The Clone Wars series established that Obi Wan was in love with Duchess Satine Kryze of Mandalore, not that they ever acted on their feelings for each other. I doubt that Obi Wan would have slept with Padme but not Satine.
@GLASSB182
@GLASSB182 8 жыл бұрын
But then no "I am your father"?
@Katerine459
@Katerine459 8 жыл бұрын
Or, "search your feelings, you know it to be true." Or, for that matter, "I have accepted the truth that you were once Anakin Skywalker, my father." Or, "Much anger in him. Like his father." And, of course, rather than Obi Wan telling Luke "the truth, from a certain point of view," instead this version had Obi Wan outright lying to Luke in Empire. A lot. Hmm.
@rook1513
@rook1513 8 жыл бұрын
OK, but the back story for Luke and Leia is full of so many foster fathers and guardians, for Vader to tell Luke he is his father could be "true from a certain point of view" being Padme's husband and all. This would also make the Jedi less morally superior. They tell these lies as a massive cover up because two of their own broke the "no attachments" rule. I'm all for accepting this as the official version. C'mon Disney, make it happen!
@mikecalvert206
@mikecalvert206 7 жыл бұрын
No, that's impossible!
@teenygozer
@teenygozer 7 жыл бұрын
He's evil, he could have been flat-out lying when he said that he was Luke's father.
@mcole5780
@mcole5780 7 жыл бұрын
I mean it is just fan fiction and pretty sure clone wars kills it but it's fan fiction. More of a what if. Vader could've said it out of jealousy, he could've truly believed it, or he was just lying to try and get him to join the dark side. She's not saying that's how it is, just how it could've been and if it had been written that way she thinks it would've been better.
@moonmanvic
@moonmanvic 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think Obi-Wan is a pedophile.
@shawnporterjr2890
@shawnporterjr2890 8 жыл бұрын
moonman_v lol so true
@Hawkeyeaeils
@Hawkeyeaeils 8 жыл бұрын
But it's okay for Padme to be one...? Besides, what teenage girl wouldn't have had a man crush on a young OB1 (still closer in age than young Anakin) and, either way, the physical "love" part didn't take place until "10 years later."
@moonmanvic
@moonmanvic 8 жыл бұрын
Hawkeyeaeils Padme is a 3 or 4 years older than Anakin. A lot closer than Obi-Wan and her.
@CaptainSweatpants90
@CaptainSweatpants90 8 жыл бұрын
If we are going by actor-age, we have a 10 year old Anakin, an 18 year old Padme and a 28 year old Obi-Wan. So yeah, TECHNICALLY the age gap between Padme and Anakin is bigger, but still, a romance between the older of these two makes a LITTLE bit more sense, doesn't it? Besides, even if we assume Padme is meant to be a bit younger, it's still WAY more likely she'd be crushing on an "older guy" than on a child. And since the movies are supposed to be 10 years apart, she'd be in her 20's in the second movie regardless, which makes a theoretical relationship between her and Obi-Wan zero creepy.
@devoncoyle7700
@devoncoyle7700 8 жыл бұрын
you say there are 8 years between Anakin and Padme and 10 years between Padme and Obi-Wan then say that the age gap between Padme and Anakin is bigger, am I missing something here?
@HR-yd5ib
@HR-yd5ib 8 жыл бұрын
According to Lucas himself the original story was that Anakin did get jealous and expected an affair between Pad and Obi. Sadly in order to make it more kids friendly that was changed into the non-convincing story line presented in episode III.
@TheSpaceJockey91
@TheSpaceJockey91 8 жыл бұрын
When did he say that?
@HR-yd5ib
@HR-yd5ib 8 жыл бұрын
it was mentioned in a bonus sound track on the dvd for episode III.
@TheApostleofRock
@TheApostleofRock 8 жыл бұрын
Dammit what a shame. The prequels always seemed to be much more marketed towards kids. It should have been as dark as a galactic saga would have to be. Like Rogue One
@da-vidcargill4975
@da-vidcargill4975 8 жыл бұрын
piss u clearly r blind fools
@ianconness11
@ianconness11 7 жыл бұрын
I'll yell ya what would've made the prequels better. If they would've revealed Jar Jar as the Sith Lord like what had actually been planned
@MimMdance
@MimMdance 4 жыл бұрын
That should have happened in the sequel trilogy instead of bringing back Palpatine. Might have fixed things.
@Antidoxy
@Antidoxy 4 жыл бұрын
That was never planned, it's just a theory.
@bobbythepirate1430
@bobbythepirate1430 4 жыл бұрын
YYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS
@yougude
@yougude 8 жыл бұрын
I like this Maggie and her adorable eyebrows.
@Reubentheimitator6572
@Reubentheimitator6572 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, you opine that she has adorable eyebrows? I must see the whole video sometime.
@FirstnameLastname-li9gs
@FirstnameLastname-li9gs 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@zacroper3577
@zacroper3577 8 жыл бұрын
"she hardly even recognised me, Jar Jar" "well who the fuck would?"
@melancholyentertainment
@melancholyentertainment 8 жыл бұрын
"What I told you was true... from a certain point of view."
@AnnoyingMoose
@AnnoyingMoose 7 жыл бұрын
Obi Wan just gave Luke an alternate fact. ;)
@AdmiralPrice
@AdmiralPrice 7 жыл бұрын
Umm the story arch doesn't need to be adjusted. The Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker is one of the most compelling modern epics as is. The problem was not the story but the movies.
@JacksonBegleymusicguy
@JacksonBegleymusicguy 8 жыл бұрын
When I watch the prequels, I ignore everything having to do with Anakin and Padme. The stuff with Palpatine trying to mold the Republic into the Empire works very well. They should have made that the main focus, rather than Anakin's love story with Padme. The twist in Empire Strikes Back wouldn't have been spoiled nearly as bad if they had only focused on the fall of the Republic in the prequels, and not the fall of Anakin.
@bakh554321
@bakh554321 8 жыл бұрын
Jackson Begley There's always the machete method of watching.
@frodoswagginz4373
@frodoswagginz4373 8 жыл бұрын
But Anakin is the Chosen One. That IS the center of the movies and if you've read the books, you'd know that the first 3 movies are about explaining the tragedy of Darth Vader. Padme and her death is one of the driving points for Anakin's stay in the dark side.
@JacksonBegleymusicguy
@JacksonBegleymusicguy 8 жыл бұрын
I think Vader should have been shrouded in mystery.
@bakh554321
@bakh554321 8 жыл бұрын
Well in episode IV it mentions how he fought in the clone wars. They have a lot of parts that hint at his past.
@yvesheinrich5013
@yvesheinrich5013 8 жыл бұрын
But Anakin's love story with Padme is one of the main roles that made him suspicious and therefore joining the Dark Side.
@16m49x3
@16m49x3 8 жыл бұрын
watch the entirety of the clone wars series(not movie) That will make the trilogy better. You can thank me later.
@04Mrdynasty
@04Mrdynasty 8 жыл бұрын
Haiiry Cake watching movie helps so you at least know who Asoka is
@16m49x3
@16m49x3 8 жыл бұрын
The series introduce ahsoka..
@04Mrdynasty
@04Mrdynasty 8 жыл бұрын
Haiiry Cake the movie actually does. Let's us know how she got chosen to be Anakin's padwan
@ianlenn5408
@ianlenn5408 8 жыл бұрын
04Mrdynasty The Clone Wars is an anthology series, meaning that not all of the episodes are in chronological order. Chronologically, the movie takes place some time in season 2, meaning that Ashoka was introduced in the series.
@16m49x3
@16m49x3 8 жыл бұрын
That doesn't really matter. My only point was that she was introduced adequatly in the series, and that the movie therefore was unnecesary. This because the movie is largely crap in comparison
@TheCALLofDEAD
@TheCALLofDEAD 8 жыл бұрын
I still think that Revenge of The Sith was quite a solid movie
@thibaldus3
@thibaldus3 8 жыл бұрын
Of course it is. It's not because a few 'influencal' retards on the internet think that it's edgy to hate on the prequels that they're right. It just means that there are retards on the internet hating on those movies. Watch "Everything great about Phantom Menace/AoC/ROTS". Much better than this video.
@darkartsdabbler2407
@darkartsdabbler2407 8 жыл бұрын
TechToxicity except for all that walking and talking. I don't mind long stretches of dialogue if it's compelling but I feel like it really wasn't in this case (at least for the most part)
@StudioMod
@StudioMod 2 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan literally says "Anakin's the father, isn't he? I'm so sorry." So no. This is a ridiculous theory that wouldn't save anything.
@JanaeSmith
@JanaeSmith 8 жыл бұрын
I've introduced so many people to the joy of M&Ms in popcorn... ^_^
@MaggieMaeFish
@MaggieMaeFish 8 жыл бұрын
Keep fighting the good fight!
@Knalxz
@Knalxz 8 жыл бұрын
It sounds like an awful mistake if you ask me. My teacher in middle school wanted me to try goober burger. It's a hamburger with ice cream and peanut butter. She said it has a second name of "Heart Attack on A Bun."
@JanaeSmith
@JanaeSmith 8 жыл бұрын
In Sedalia, MO is the Wheel-In Drive-In - ("Home of the Goober Burger")... It's a thin lean burger patty grilled with crispy edges and a spoonful of peanut butter spread on top while it's warm... No ice cream. wtf? Seriously though, try just the PB. It's frickin melty and gooey and amazing. ^_^
@Aeiroq
@Aeiroq 8 жыл бұрын
Janae Smith been doing it for years
@JanaeSmith
@JanaeSmith 8 жыл бұрын
try Taco Bell's Cinnamon Twists w/ their nacho cheese sometime ^_^
@elliso7397
@elliso7397 8 жыл бұрын
Do one about how Emma Watson and Tom Felton's sexual tension changed the entire plot of the movies
@MaggieMaeFish
@MaggieMaeFish 8 жыл бұрын
OO! I like that...
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 8 жыл бұрын
I thought she had sexual tension with Daniel Radcliffe.
@justatroll4282
@justatroll4282 8 жыл бұрын
this!
@anavictoria3499
@anavictoria3499 8 жыл бұрын
+loudboy317 I thought that too!!
@irishpanic
@irishpanic 8 жыл бұрын
yes
@daverobson3084
@daverobson3084 7 жыл бұрын
Padme never "requested an old friend" to be her guard. The Jedi suggested a guard and Palpatine suggested Obiwan and Anakin.
@bingshavebeenchilled
@bingshavebeenchilled 7 жыл бұрын
I think Obi-Wan goes after that flying robot delivering the worms because he's an awesome Jedi (although come to think of it he does make the point to Anakin that they're there to protect her and not to track down the assassin, but Obi-Wan is just that honourable and awesome). The rushing to Geonosis to save Obi-Wan doesn't have to be anything to do with love, just being a decent person, and as mentioned previously they're old friends. When yoda tells Obi-Wan to search his feelings to look for Anakin, obviously he goes to Padme because he knows about the two of them so if anyone would know where, it'd be her. Obi-Wan going to look over Luke on Tatooine makes sense as he needs to stay in hiding (Tatooine is a remote location) and as Anakin is really strong with the force so his son could also be, someone could also come looking for Luke so Obi-Wan's there to protect him. Ben being cagey about Luke parentage also makes sense in the fact that they can't really give away that Vader is Luke's father at the begining of episode 4 lol. This whole theory attacks the honour and integrity of Obi-Wan as a Jedi and as my favourite Jedi I guess my points are a little defensive, I suppose a watcher of the movies that's not quite as big a fan as I am could be able to see this love affair but I don't buy it at all
@shaunpoland5656
@shaunpoland5656 8 жыл бұрын
This girl don't even know what she's talking about
@ardaagaik9136
@ardaagaik9136 8 жыл бұрын
CaptainDragonzx this guy doesn't even know the language he is using.
@shaunpoland5656
@shaunpoland5656 8 жыл бұрын
This girl does not know what she is talking about.* happy?
@laparilive3722
@laparilive3722 8 жыл бұрын
sat ap
@jennakoch3513
@jennakoch3513 8 жыл бұрын
CaptainDragonzx really she looks like she doesn't know what's going on
@theFrogspyer
@theFrogspyer 8 жыл бұрын
I can't add this to my head canon just because of the Clone Wars TV show
@battlelineshq1799
@battlelineshq1799 8 жыл бұрын
The frogspyer same
@declanmorden
@declanmorden Жыл бұрын
A few things I wanted to point out, the age difference between Obi-Wan and Padme is double that of Anakin and Padme. Second, this idea completely undermines that trajedy of Anakin's fall and makes no thematic sense in any world other than fanfiction.
@jasondodl9976
@jasondodl9976 8 жыл бұрын
k well, add the Darth Jar Jar theory and NOW we have a masterpiece.
@jakelee8245
@jakelee8245 8 жыл бұрын
There's about a 5 year age difference. Anakin is 9 and Padme is 14 in episode 1. Also Padme fell in love with Anakin in episode 2 not 1
@aidanmartin6776
@aidanmartin6776 8 жыл бұрын
Except the original trilogy tells us that "I AM YOUR FATHER"
@brandimakesmusic
@brandimakesmusic 7 жыл бұрын
Okay you couldn't possibly be more wrong. In the OT the reason Anakin kills the Emperor is because he realizes the wrong he's done and understands why he turned to the dark side to begin with. He turned because he was enticed by the power that promised to save the woman he loved when the ironic thing was that doing the opposite would've yielded the same result of Padme getting saved. In ROTJ, he saw the devotion his own son had for those that he loved and saw the lengths to which he was willing to go to protect them. Just like his father. In ROTS, while on Mustafar he does have a moment of self reflection and though he sheds a tear for what he's done and all that he's killed. Then Padme arrives and by this time he had already strayed too far away from the light and was drunk on the power that he now possessed. Seeing Obi-Wan whom he thought was a traitor based on his ideology and the fact that he also had a hand in bending the Jedi Code despite merely following the council's or more so Mace's command to spy on the chancellor, triggered him to think that Padme had betrayed him. He started strangling her in a blind rage until he and Obi Wan started their duel. During the fight, Anakin only thought of his hatred for the Jedi and for Obi and it fueled his fighting however, once he was cut down and lay there burning nearly to death on a beach of lava, he only thought of Padme. And as she laid on the operating table delivering Luke and Leia, she still thought of Anakin. If this secret relationship had happened, not only would it have his redemption less meaningful. As for your evidence, 1. Anakin and Obi Wan hadn't seen her in years and according to them, there wasn't a single mission that they went on where they weren't together. 2. Anakin may have been strong in the force, but there is no way that he could've mind tricked her unless he was constantly trying. 3. Padme wouldn't have continued to entertain his advances if she were with Obi Wan. 4. The age gap between Anakin and Padme by Episode 1 is much less creepy than the age gap between Obi Wan and Padme. 5. The whole hand touching his thigh thing. I'm pretty certain that was just so Natalie Portman could stabalize herself after helping him up since it's not shown any other time. 6. She was crying because she had the feeling that things were falling apart and she was under the impression that Anakin might have been killed at the Jedi Temple. 7. Obi Wan only came to Padme because he knew that Anakin would've told her where he had gone. 8. Why would she refuse to tell Obi Wan where Anakin had gone to try and keep Obi Wan from killing him? 9. Anakin hated Obi Wan because he blindly followed the council despite it's hypocrisy and obvious lack of integrity. 10. The only way the movies could've been any better would've been if Jar Jar was less annoying and turned out to be a sith lord, if the dialog was less cringe worthy, and if the performances were more natural like Ewan's. Your fanfiction is just that. Fanfiction. It won't make the prequel's storyline which is already a masterpiece any better
@subconvextheobezoar
@subconvextheobezoar 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know why you can't just enjoy it as it is without adding a stupid love triangle
@gabriellevalentino7319
@gabriellevalentino7319 8 жыл бұрын
cause they are horrible and even this doesn't fix it entirely but at least gives some better explanation to whatever the heck is going on in these movies(but it still doesn't fix jarjar...)
@balancewod1864
@balancewod1864 8 жыл бұрын
there is another method. the "secretly a dark lord " person.
@gabriellevalentino7319
@gabriellevalentino7319 8 жыл бұрын
idk....i find that theory hilarious ...buuut i don't think anything can fix these movies
@subconvextheobezoar
@subconvextheobezoar 8 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the movies ( they're not flawless but what is?) I think people who say they don't like them are just trying to seem cool or edgy and thats stupid lol.
@Yatsura2
@Yatsura2 8 жыл бұрын
+KeeganismeltingHALP! Can you please just stop judging reviews and their authors without even reading them? that makes you even more looking like someone _"trying to be cool or edgy"_ than anything else...
@victoriacara3846
@victoriacara3846 8 жыл бұрын
Make the Prequels Better = Cut out every JarJar scene
@robotguy
@robotguy 8 жыл бұрын
Or give him the biggest plot twist of all - Jar Jar is the ultimate Sith Lord. He's a CGI character; every pixel of him was done on purpose. So, when he's silently mouthing words and Padme repeats them out loud, or when he does a Jedi Leap into the water, those are instances where he's showing he is not what he seems. Or rather, the animators are showing that. I think this was Lucas's plan all along, but he chickened out when he saw how much audiences hated Jar Jar in the first movie.
@N00KIExM0NSTER
@N00KIExM0NSTER 8 жыл бұрын
Jar Jar is Plageuis but Lucas crumbled under fan boy opinion and reworked it so he wasn't. Jar Jar as Plageuis would be the biggest Star Wars WTF/OMG moment ever.
@pooldeadpool1535
@pooldeadpool1535 8 жыл бұрын
+N00KIExM0NSTER it would make the prequels more on par to the originals and so much better!!
@TheDifferenced
@TheDifferenced 8 жыл бұрын
Long story short, Lucas "chickened" out. If you've recently watched the interviews of Amed Best (Jar jar's actor), he did mentioned that the Jarjar Sith theory is quite actually true. He even mentioned that if George Lucas "would ever" release the "cut" footage of Episode 2, then the whole prequel trilogy will get a redemption.
@kanecarlton7460
@kanecarlton7460 8 жыл бұрын
Victoria Cara I think you mean make jar jar what he was always meant to be. the real phantom menace.
@bareakon
@bareakon 8 жыл бұрын
Good video. I approve. Hope this will stay a series.
@entransito1
@entransito1 7 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing. Not only was mindblowing but also fun af. Thank you Cracked; this side of the history is hella perfect to explore. Lovely work!
@thelovelydianne9678
@thelovelydianne9678 8 жыл бұрын
Twins can have two different fathers cause Leia is totally Anakin's son cause Kylo is totally his grandson
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez 8 жыл бұрын
two eggs with different parent sperms could happen there.
@toastghost9145
@toastghost9145 8 жыл бұрын
Or, perhaps they're both still Anakin's, it's just that a paternity test was never taken out of shame and lack of time, so there's uncertainty. Vader, not knowing, could still see look as both his son and a reminder of his wife's affair, so it should still work.
@owenbevt3
@owenbevt3 8 жыл бұрын
I think Vader arrogance would stop him ever questioning that he was the farther.
@owenbevt3
@owenbevt3 8 жыл бұрын
There could be winney teenage emo bitch genes the Han side?
@SuperWindsage
@SuperWindsage 8 жыл бұрын
So there turning it into a Lancelot, Guiniver, and Arthur thing? only Anakin is a mix of Arthur and Mordred? what is it with women and the cuckolding? Christ.
@ChocolateisIsNice
@ChocolateisIsNice 7 жыл бұрын
Firstly, I don't believe Padme was really in love with Anakin at the time of Episode 1. She just thought he was a cute boy. Sure... He had a crush on her (which is normal for a young boy to have a crush on an older girl) ,but I don't believe it was mutual. Only be Episode 2, did they both start to truly fall in love with each other & by then; they were both adults so the age gap wasn't such a big deal. Secondly, you say "Padme was closer to Obi Wan's age in TPM". Erm... No she wasn't! Padme was like 14 & Obi Wan was like 25! Thirdly, Episode 2 is called 'Attack of the Clones' not 'The Clone Wars'. Fourthly, this theory is awful, because it would mean that Vader from the OT wouldn't really have been the father of Luke, & this would make a lot of what happened in the OT a lot less meaningful. It rewrites a lot of what was clearly the case in the OT. it makes Star Wars more cliche! Not to mention, it makes one of the biggest plot twists ever meaningless. Lastly, You say at one point Vader was like, "I'm gonna kill my dumb son!" There are very few points in the OT when Vader tries to kill Luke! His hope is for Luke to join him, not kill kim! If Vader wanted Luke edad, he could have kiled ihm within seconds in TESB. He was obviously going easy on him! His plan was never to destroy Luke!
@darthtrump5874
@darthtrump5874 8 жыл бұрын
Make Star Wars great again this would not!
@alexpindell4307
@alexpindell4307 7 жыл бұрын
Lol darrh trump
@fazeeugene9111
@fazeeugene9111 7 жыл бұрын
Darth Trump so yoda is secretly a sith orange dude?
@arlohatcher4812
@arlohatcher4812 7 жыл бұрын
Faze Eugene No Yoda is Bernie Sanders
@JXZ-JAM
@JXZ-JAM 7 жыл бұрын
So the thing is, despite public misconceptions, Padme is not much older then Anakin. Despite her composure, she is a queen after all, she's actually only like 14-15 in Phantom Menace and Anakin is like 10. Thats a 4-5 year difference. Where-as Obi-wan is around the age of 25-26, which is MUCH older. So if anything is "creepy" it's a mid twenties dude having the hots for a 14 year old. Where as a 10 year old having a crush on a 14 is pretty normal., "cute" even. If it was any creepy then Obi-wan would have a thin-line beard cut, a single earring, drive a 2002 Mustang and be saying "Age is just a number". And Padme wasn't even into Anakin until the second film which was something like 10 years after Phantom Menace. Myth Busted.
@rmcbeigh
@rmcbeigh 8 жыл бұрын
if Anikin is 9 and Padme is 14 then the difference is 5 years but OBI WAN IS 25 and 25-14 is 11 How does that Make OBI wan CLOSER to HER age???
@hellieweird123
@hellieweird123 8 жыл бұрын
bcos a 14 year old being attracted to a 25 year old makes sense; a 14 year old being attracted to a 5 year old is gross
@rmcbeigh
@rmcbeigh 8 жыл бұрын
wow... so wrong. a 25 year old with a 14 year old in our society would be illegal so no way it is portrayed in this film.
@hellieweird123
@hellieweird123 8 жыл бұрын
+rmcbeigh I'm not saying they banged or had a relationship! But when I was a 14 yo girl I would've had a crush on obi wan, not a small child lol
@rmcbeigh
@rmcbeigh 8 жыл бұрын
that part makes sense but not the closer in age part. Its a fact Anikin was closer. IN the book the relationship with Anikin was written way better there was no question the two liked each other.
@frostedflame
@frostedflame 8 жыл бұрын
I thought Obi-Wan was 19 in Episode 1
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