How GeorgeNotFound Lost His Entire Audience In 1 Month

[@InternetAnarchist]

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[@epicnoob13]

Kk

[@MrAbdullahi701]

*You're welcome, Man! Keep up the good work. I always look forward to watching your videos*

[@Ducati395]

Speed run much?

[@asdfdsf-s4u]

Thank you, internet antichrist

[@Donna1Type]

Nice 👩🏽‍💻

[@DUSKvsDAWN]

People making up lies like these are directly a fucking insult to real SA victims. Honestly just baffling to me that you would do that.

[@MyRegardsToTheDodo]

They are not only an insult, they are also a problem, because their lies make it harder for real victims to find people who believe them.

[@Fridge6]

problem is, they dont care. its all about what they can gain from it.

[@nepge8967]

@@Fridge6 Reason why I say to make shit like this illegal especially when good men in the past have died because of false claims.

[@starzainia]

i can see why all those boomers in congress wanted to pass legislation to control the internet now.

[@Driolo95]

@@nepge8967False claimers deserve the same punishment the victim could have gotten in terms of jail sentence and punishment

[@keithobsses300]

As a SA victim, i never trusted her testimony. It was a fucking wattpad shaped story.

[@The_Gamer1567]

I’m so sorry you had to go through what you did as a Victim! I really hope you got your justice.

[@Lulunightfeverr]

TRUE, SO MUCH OF IT WAS STRAIGHT OUT OF A Y/N FANFIC TOO-

[@Comm253]

Okay and why should we trust your story then.

[@AlexMorayfield]

Why shouldn't we? ​@@Comm253

[@nazunnii]

@@Comm253 uncalled for lmao, i am also a sexual assault victim. if you havent experienced it, dont mouth off about other peoples traumas

[@lystopadnovember]

it’s sickening at the fact that she not only LIED but also told her viewers that going to police if you get assaulted is stupid. Her audience may have literal victims of SA and they’re being told that “you can’t do anything so just don’t do anything”

[@Wassupmeh]

For real, like she and many other people who have lied about being sa'd have made it extremly dificult for actualy sa survivors to come forward or to even contact the police, i'm sadly one of those victems.

[@lystopadnovember]

@@Wassupmehi’m truly so sorry you have to go though this shit, may i please help you in any way? idk find some hotlines or organisations in yr country?(not forcing)

[@tigerwoods373]

Plus she's reinforcing that woman make up sa allegations. For what too? She wanted some attention? She wanted pity? She should receive the same punishment he would've got from a sa conviction.

[@dannyjack659]

Why go to police when you can livestream it and watch that subscriber count go up

[@rockyharmon2468]

She also kept changing the freaking story

[@ozturkkoray2693]

She was so drunk, she remebered everything? That must be a new kind of drunkness.

[@IM2MERS]

People do vary in reactions to alcohol but in her case, I think it's bull. Personally, I can get puke my guts out drunk and still keep my mind sharp like a sober effect where all I have is poor control of my body.

[@garbearfar1394]

That was one thing I was thinking. Around half way thru the video caiti says she kept going back to the couch because not doing so would “hurt geroges ego” or some bs and I was like ?? You’re drunk, too drunk to consent but are aware of how a person is going to feel if you commit one action or another? Like that doesn’t really make sense to me

[@Tazskhere]

​@@garbearfar1394Society is a little disappointing nowadays, people just believe women for no reason, while I don't blame them, her accusations had little to no proof and basically debunking everything she said in the first stream. I don't understand why they took her side without questioning her, but not the same with George. Society is really something else nowadays

[@travisallan4637]

@@IM2MERS Same but this girl is bullshitting to get attention or to take down a creator who stopped giving her attention.

[@fokinlazrsoits6043]

To be fair, I remember most times I’m intoxicated.

[@TNTkeynine]

Sexual assault is so common, yet people like this destroy the belief in real cases.

[@pondfishrancher]

Exactly it's the crying wolf scenario

[@ItsPungpond98]

It's sad how people like this makes it look less believable. What an insult to the actual victims.

[@fuzzyboll]

fr

[@Vayee]

Ong. Basically making cases to be less believeable for cash grab type shi. I feel bad for anyone who experience such a SA with noone believing it and nothing to back it up

[@Driolo95]

Such a sad reality we live in that people are this desperate for attention/payday

[@col.mur.1992]

This girl disrespected and made a joke out of real victims

[@loopy7117]

literally, and it makes me sad that there are people like this. People just love to be a victim and be praised ig.

[@childefuckyourmom2500]

Real I'm a victim since I was 7 and rn I'm 16, her accuse doesn't make sense at all

[@octtot15]

what annoyed me even more was that during her live streams that she was talking about it she had her follower count on the screen

[@zaharafan]

@@childefuckyourmom2500im so sorry, are you okay now? ❤️❤️

[@Kukkizu]

imagine being forced to apologize over something being blown way out of proportion. rlly insults serious sa victims

[@stupidn1gga31]

these are the kinda thing that makes me biassed towards woman and the reason Ill probably never get a girlfriend😭😭

[@kaynkayn9870]

Nah, people around him were also pressuring him. Even if you know you're right and did it with consent, anyone would doubt with the pressure whether if they actually did something wrong. He did not deserve that.

[@funnyvideo-vn9kl]

​@@kaynkayn9870I agree

[@Tuelz...]

​@@funnyvideo-vn9klngl what I learned from being around fellow cre8ors and just living life is never publicly apologize. I noticed once any company or person does it never end positive... when ppl just ignore it, it works out better. At first ppl slam you but over time they just forget. Same can go for in court. As soon as you apologize you admit guilt

[@legoboy7107]

@@kaynkayn9870 Being gaslit and gaslighting yourself into either thinking you're guilty or feeling guilty even when you know you're not is very real. Heck I've done that to myself before, and it sucks.

[@shanon20594]

We can literally see her fake cry... How people believed it?

[@Crabsto]

had an uneasy feeling about her crying now I know why

[@guypeace7583]

People will believe what they want to believe unfortunately

[@o1theunknown]

People see girl on camera that’s younger than the accused and will immediately cling to it regardless of evidence and seeing that sort of thing honestly sucks so bad

[@Cwmaltacc90]

Idk man, any sane person could see how painfully fake it was... But hey, most of this drama happened on twitter.

[@memebomberLMAO]

Ik people somehow really believe sh like that it's clearly fake she can't even explain it without looking at the script 💀💀💀 and somehow people believe it

[@dovahclone2607]

George is really a victim here. So glad a lot of people are seeing it.

[@loser9336]

It's actually really bittersweet for me - only because I wish everyone would've supported George when the allegations came out from Caiti, but it was EXTREMELY depressing and disappointing seeing everybody on twitter just hating on him even when he didn't give his side yet. Super annoying. And now that everybody had time to think, of course everybody is supporting George because he's obviously in the right. Honestly those that supported Caiti the second Caiti accused George should be investigated for brain damage

[@zhanhao9456]

I think George's main downfall was the fact that he was addressing how "he felt" or "how the situation changed his perspective", where in my opinion, it was completely irrelevant as the whole drama had been "facts (George) vs Emotions (Caiti)". He tried for a second to "redeem" himself based on the lies shared by Caiti, instead of sticking to his own story. Also, I didn't follow the drama from the start but became quite evident how Caiti kept on speaking with emotions rather than providing anything of substance. George already provided additional evidence (non-verbal consent even observed by friend), so why is she repeating her first point instead of debunking the new evidence? I support cancelling/punishing SA perpetrators but it's sad to see how everyone throws everyone else under the bus when it comes to preserving their online fame without verifying what happened first.

[@saido4178]

@@loser9336yep, people in twitter was jumpin fast and pressing george without any actual known evidence. And i dont think people shouldve also jumped on george’s side bcz it was still not known who is in the right and wrong. Its better to wait than sorry.

[@xXxElit3zxXx]

But that's the issue..... The damage has been done to George and the way he framed it was sincere but still kind of put him out to be beaten (the apologising). So in the end the one that truly won is caiti. As the video mentions too, caiti can just hide and wait for everything to blow over. But for George, whatever has been said about his SA on caiti is gonna be left online for others to misrepresent him.

[@gecons]

​@@loser9336 same with Dream's and the previous ones' cases, keem was always right

[@demeter-the-great]

This is the kind of girl who’d show a fake ID to a guy wanting to verify her age and then blame him for not discerning that it was fake.

[@Misdrex]

she kinda did lol she had a 21+ wristband on from a friend so they didnt know she was under the drinking age

[@Mogojoegotube]

She's the kind of girl that ruins men's lives...

[@yanalujan]

Rudi Rose with all the rappers and NBA players.

[@snaggio]

Exactly what she did

[@Roisty09]

@@Misdrex Her friends are really shitty people. Used her discomfort as a reason to lash out at Dream and his friends. Imagine being manipulated and used a pawn just so your mates can sling some cheap shots at other content creators because they're envious. Also, imagine doing something illegal and getting your underage friend a 21+ wristband so you can get her drunk. I actually feel bad for Caiti. Ofc she's an adult in this situation and could make her own decisions, but I think it's clear she was pressured by her friends to direct the narrative into a more serious allegation.

[@Nonsensical0g]

This actually pisses me off a lot because my mother had a friend who went to America, two girls accused him of sexual assault, he was proven innocent but still they wouldn't drop the charges and he wasn't allowed 100 feet within a school. He ended up taking his life and everytime I watch videos like these I remember that and it genuinely makes me upset. I'm not one to wish downfall on people but I genuinely hope she finds herself an early grave.

[@crtclusher]

I pray his soul rests in Peace

[@meltyicemood-vy6sf]

Damn right man

[@raiden_from_metal_gear]

Don't mean to disrespect or make a dead man look any lesser, but me personally I would've never taken that. Would've pursued that 'til I dropped dead. And there just ain't no way I'm dropping dead for two american girls who think they have all the power. Keep fighting that bullcrap, s'what people need to learn to do. Don't mean to preach, but I really do just get so darn prissed outta my mind whenever I have to read a story like this. The whole intent of those two wenches was to ruin a random man's life, and they succeeded. Makes my blood boil. Have so many other things I could call them, but I know KZbin wouldn't let me.

[@ENCODED.YT.47]

May he be in peace But wanting this person to die is a bit extreme though I understand your motive I am sorry.

[@jamesrennell9703]

May he rest in peace.

[@thetherrannative]

It breaks my heart that George _really_ thought he had done something wrong. You can tell how genuine his apologies are. He truly thought he had made a mistake and hurt someone without intending to. He handled it so well and was so mature and thoughtful. Good people do not deserve what happened to him.

[@kyuki1806]

@@thetherrannative real dude.... like as far as i can tell he's just a nice dude who's actually like. normal. fuck caiti

[@Shrekowski]

As a male victim of sexual assault. It’s stories like these that REALLY piss me off. I got laughed out of the sheriffs office when I tried to report it. yet someone on twitch can lie about it and the internet instantly believes them. What a sad and disgusting time to live in Edit: I’m overwhelmed by the love you all have shown me. Thank you random KZbin commenters for validating my trauma because not a lot of people do

[@The_swan_god]

I’m sorry sir. You don’t deserve that. Hope you can find people who will take your story seriously.

[@honeybutterchipslol]

it's truly disgusting,also it's not much but remember we here for u man

[@AnekoF90]

And then people say, "Back then was better." Just look what the "back then" people was like

[@thisisaninsidejoke6751]

I was born a girl, and I was unfortunately assaulted by another girl many years ago. Some people don’t believe me or make gross comments about my story questioning how it happened simply because we’re both bodily female.

[@Ah_Yote]

Male victim as well, what I hate most is when women act like men never go through these issues and our opinions are based off of misogyny, like no as a victim who also knows other male and female victims Caits story wouldn’t be THAT inconsistent

[@Giebachii]

He should sue her ass for defamation. She essentially ruined his career for shits and giggles

[@maggiethemaggot123]

yeah like all he did (thinking she was over 21 bc of that wristband) is like cuddle her. yk how many of my friends over my age cuddle me? and i dont DIRECTLY say i consent, but the claims that she was smiling and playfighting, WITH a 2nd witness, Dream, is enough to get a lot of people on george's side. and let me bring your attention to this: NUMBER 1: she read the entire thing on her phone. if she wrote it, would she not have known her story? NUMBER 2: she had NO OTHER people to claim her side of the story. and NUMBER 3: she never ever replied accordingly to any of geore's or dream's claims. personally, i side with george on this one. many people can go on the internet after meeting a content creator, cry, and say some rando script.

[@OG113.]

That’s what he gets for calling the VANOSS groups some pedos when he and dream are pedos themselves 🤡

[@Randomilj]

He cant sue her because she never specifically mentioned him, its really sad that people are like this.

[@loser9336]

@@maggiethemaggot123 She should issue a public apology to George for ruining his reputation over false/exeraggerated/lied by omission SA allegations and pay him back for the brand deals lost with Mr.Beast over the matter. Caiti is not only wrong morally, but also legally - the concept of consent is very dependent on the situation which is why a non-verbal consent clause exists in legislation. Caiti's smiling, 1 hour consensual cuddling, + willingly going back after getting back multiple times would fall under non verbal consent (really, search it up!). Really, what everyone should be saying, Caiti got what she deserved and it was unfair that George was hated on by millions (maybe even tens of millions, just look at the twitter statistics on whos viewed tweets) and lost multiple brand deals. All you said was relatively okay too I guess, but people should really be knowing the entire hard hitting important details such as consent, lying by omission (leaving out cuddling, smiling (this is a big non-verbal consent sign), playfighting), exaggerated claims

[@Ilovenandos-gb7fj]

@@Randomilj bro shut yo it’s kinda obvious that she was mentioning him or he would’ve never made a response vid silly billy

[@cluanneyoula4634]

She deletes her tweet? That's IT?? Then got away scotts free? Man...

[@clamheaven]

Because she was crying🙉she must be right🐵, she is such a poor girl🙈!? Even if she was wrong🐵, she didn’t know what was happening🐵,she did nothing wrong🙉such a poor girl🙈.

[@LeroyOjuju]

Why the monkey emoji​@@clamheaven

[@StallionStudios1234]

Its like how Justin Trudeau says things and then later on says he did not say that even though it was public. Gas lighting at its finest.

[@slippythepenguin1561]

This should genuinely get people fined/arrested

[@MissiFull]

because it was a woman. Woman has privileges in this world.

[@dannyshoinz]

Respect to George for apologizing even though he knows he is innocent. That isn't an easy thing to do when you aren't guilty. Props to Goerge.

[@isverchoon7760]

She was "Brave" enough to make allegations, but not get the police involved? I feel this is a major slap in the face to actual SA victims.

[@auzom5963]

Maybe because she knew she had no solid evidence. Just speculations.

[@woosh_police4018]

you say this as if SA cases ever get the assulter jailed. they are very complicated because unless you have video evidence of it happening it becomes hearseys. search up victims who went to police and see how far it went without video footage. I know people in real life who went through these processes and 100% the accussed never went to jail. only way for a kind of justice is they take online and let the whole world know and they also risk being sued for defomation.

[@Dice-Z]

I kinda agree but you gotta understand, most of the time the police actually does fuck all.

[@_Zeldo]

@@Dice-Z um no?

[@767kai6]

@@Dice-Zthe same thing happens to Kai center and he got the cops involved and was willing to give it all up to the girl just for her to come out and say she lied

[@neoastral7950]

George's only mistake was actually worrying about whether he caused harm to someone when he didn't mean to, and she capitalized heavily on him being genuinely a good person.

[@RamzaBeoulves]

How is trying to understand consent a mistake?

[@Theepieguy]

@@RamzaBeoulves It's not about understanding consent, it's the fact that he was genuinely seeing himself as a person that did her harm after reading her stories, that was a mistake, because even if you want everyone to feel comfortable, don't gas light yourself into believing everyone over your own feelings on a situation too.

[@MeargleSchmeargle]

That's just straight-up rotten. Guy does his best to do what he thinks is remedying the situation and like vultures the internet hordes descend upon him for it. Ugh.

[@fie4426]

Yes, so fucking disgusting. People are so gross

[@rickjohnson1719]

​@@MeargleSchmearglethats what you get for being a good person.

[@Wolfman-rd1pv]

Everyone who genuinely believes “giving non-verbal consent doesn’t make it ok” have clearly never had a truly romantic moment in their lives

[@Erowens98]

Yup. I wonder how many dates actually end with "can i kiss you", or does one party just take the initiative?

[@mitskitoepoopookie22]

exactly😭😭especially with like kissing… “can i kiss you” is kinda awkward to say and especially when you’re nervous. but i think it depends on the people too. i wouldn’t think it’s bad to say “can i kiss you” or anything. just kind of awkward especially in the moment.

[@7_ana]

You say that but some people are actually traumatized n need for people to ask consent. Its not about romance its about being comfortable regardless of whats awkward for u.I grew up around people who were assaulted n just were shook in general scared to say no to anyone while being fully uncomfortable. everybodys different not particularly talking bout this situation w that example because idk who lying but for anyone, ppl go through things n verbal consent is not really a issue. I understand where u coming from but yk

[@painless4785]

@@7_ana If they are so fragile they should stay away from partying with strangers in strange places and focus on therapy and getting better. bs.

[@7_ana]

@@painless4785 You're acting dense just to show u don't have empathy for people and its boring. People have their own paces n not everyone is jumping into therapy sessions or even admitting they're a victim off bat. You have your opinion n that's fine but acting like that is unnecessary dude.

[@Bruh_Hulk]

Notice how George is staying Mature during his explanations and not name calling while Caiti is doing the exact opposite and addressing the issue like a child. Edit: Tysm for the likes it’s the most I’ve ever gotten 😭

[@LiamJensen1]

she never said who it was they figured it out I'm not defending her just saying your an idiot

[@retrohanska4441]

At this point I wouldn't even be surprised if that childishness was also a deliberate act to make her story more convincing. The crying certainly was and she already saw how her being too detailed in her telling of the events kinda ruined the argument that she was too drunk to consent. If she also argued her stance well and stayed rational, it would only prove that she in fact wasn't the shy, gullible and helpless young girl she claims to be.

[@Bruh_Hulk]

@ 👍🏿👍🏿🫶🏿

[@clarkchen9873]

The fact that Caiti got off Scot free is what makes me disappointed in the world we live in….

[@sabrinakingsley798]

What do you mean ? Bro just admitted everything

[@jonathanchow561]

@@sabrinakingsley798 What I think they mean is that this is a bittersweet ending for George as a whole. George now has a permanent stain on himself and his brand that will never really fade, all the networking bridges have been either damaged or burnt to cinders. He also may develop mental health issues down the line due to the intensity of the backlash. Caiti on the other hand, has gained thousands of followers who at least hate the dream team more than her and has functionally escaped the brunt of the backlash she PURPOSELY started. There is no winner on the internet, there is no god in this virtual world. Will she get her judgment, will George recover? we'll never know for now all we can do is wait and see.

[@kevinsaga3525]

Well nothing was going to happen to her anyway she was always going to get support from Twitter and her fans no matter what ether said really hell she instantly got clout and more Money for this any way so essentially she profit off of a false accusation

[@bryce1728]

@@sabrinakingsley798 TO WHAT CUDDLING WITH AN ADULT AND TOUCHING HER WAIST?

[@MrBlipman]

Yep and people still cope about being a woman is "harder" than being a man. Men have everything to lose., and women lose nothing from faking allegations, its crazy.

[@TheangryDozer]

So she lies about her age and gets mad because George didn’t know she lied about her age… whoa

[@jamestherobloxgamer7801]

idk what side should i be on

[@shinobukoko204]

Does things people over 21 would do. And George’s group was specifically filled with people over 21 too. Like the fact that she has the audacity to say Freshly 18. Was trying to make bro come off as pedophilic as possible.

[@A5MR]

@@jamestherobloxgamer7801 isnt it obvious??? what

[@Cleanevilreal]

@@jamestherobloxgamer7801Me personally, I’m on the side of the person who falsely accused someone of sexual assault, lied about their age, said they were incredibly drunk but somehow remembered what happened clearly, and repeatedly changed their story.

[@comedicsociopathy]

​​​​@@A5MRI'm not on anyone's side because I don't know these people and they all seem kinda pathetic, especially the girl. This is just funny gossip to me and makes me glad I'm not and never was interested in romantic relationships. Even though I'm a woman, they still sound like a pain in the arse, especially nowadays lol

[@sarcasmspasm11]

HOW can she be so drunk (as mentioned by her several times) and still have a such a detailed account of that night while every other person in that room has blurry and pieces of information of the said night.

[@asenisdigital]

Yeah exactly there is no way she remembered all that while being drunk, I wonder how the guy in the video or others involved didn't point this out.

[@zhanhao9456]

Also, first she mentioned how she was visibly uncomfortable. George says that nothing happened that night besides cuddling, Dream confirms it. George's friend confirms it. If most people don't remember what happened that night, then either everyone were blackout drunk or nothing happened. But then she modified her story that she was hiding it? At that point she was echoing whatever her fans were shouting...

[@TheAce0fH43arts]

I completely understand this point, but she didn’t. I personally believe it was foggy to her too but she was forcing confidence for she thought if the wasn’t they wouldn’t believe her (this is shown in a lot of Sa cases in” you can’t describe it it didn’t happen”) I personally think they are both victims what she did was fucked she destroyed him and lied and lied yet she still was uncomfortable although it was wrong George isn’t at fault he didn’t know

[@comedicsociopathy]

​​@@TheAce0fH43artsShe's not a victim. She tried to destroy a man's life over some very weak accusations without any evidence. This girl deserves the hate this guy got for a little tipsy cuddling she framed as him being the worst graper that ever walked this earth. As a woman, I'm ashamed that this is what womanhood has become, absolutely disgraceful.

[@alitasuzumaki1984]

Hol up I didint even think about that u r actually smart af thx for pointing that out

[@Omni-Man]

Philosopher 100 Years ago: "If a tree falls in a forest but no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" Today: "If I have a breakdown and cry but don't record or livestream it, did I even have feelings at all?"

[@soonnah9521]

The fact her allegation was so dramatically written as if it was literally a wattpad story is what made many real SA victims doubt her from the start. Myself included. No one relays their trauma like it's a novel "hoping my stillness would make me disappear.." we don't say things like that when talking about some of the worst experiences of our lives.

[@neenayannelli2334]

i never caught that. that is deff a strange thing to do. normally you just say "i wanted to disappear" or "i couldn't believe this was happening to me". that's coming from someone who writes stories as a hobby xD

[@SirPogsalotCreates]

that's what I was thinking too, I've never dealt with anything like this in real life but as soon as she started talking, it immediately felt incredibly artificial. not like it was obvious she was lying but it moreso just confused me as to why she said it like that. also the level of hostility she reverted to was a bit... 😬😬

[@PlasticDoll.]

lol yeah... she was talking like a story... at least that sounded, very dramatic in wording

[@aga3852]

Nahh don't bring the Wattpad into this 😭

[@TheClownMan1]

Yes and no. Yes because it’s not likely they’d speak like this but no because there are some people that just try to get their point across through description of emotions

[@dinky2028]

Twitter is the worst place to defend yourself, never make important responses on twitter.

[@potahto_]

I will never take twitter users seriously, they’re too presumptuous and insane.

[@E-Dad_Operator]

I constantly refer to the Family Guy episode where Brian defends himself through twitter and it was a trash fire.

[@ThePawsketeer]

@ville__Dude thinks he’s UTTP 💀

[@ianrocco8453]

But what if I have a ukulele and a song to sing?

[@Karthik-nu9yd]

@ville__ nobdy cares abt u mr i dont even saw ur content

[@dennismakarov93]

She deleted her posts once receiving heat, while George took the heat like a man. What a coward this Caiti is 😭☠️

[@notsurefornow69]

Frr

[@Slugstack9337]

Exactly people like that are p*ssys

[@Jout8-re1ij]

No wonder the world is sad depressed world with this belive woman society and guilty before proven innocent society.

[@sayakamaizono5830]

@@Jout8-re1ij not all women. just THOSE women and caiti herself.

[@Jout8-re1ij]

@@sayakamaizono5830 What you mean with caiti? Mens lack of giving attention or validation or treating women nicely could have something to do also with selfish lier women sending innocent men to prison.

[@scott.thomas]

I find it super fucked up that when George released the "I'm gathering evidence" Tweet, everyone instantly went against him. They didn't even let him release his argument.

[@itsmemike403]

What really made things worse for George was his niceness, apologizing to this girl even when she was clearly trying to attack him for clout and people just sided with her because she was a girl

[@repaeR_ehT]

also bc of the people that he hangs around. people be blinded by hate

[@mistyydagoat]

As disrespectfully as possible, that's pussy behaviour from George and his friends. Why the heck would you apologise for something like that. This is a typical case of a woman doing something with a man consensually, and then afterwards, out of nowhere feeling like it was "sexual assault". And then proceeding to ruin the life of the other for some reason.

[@Rasklo93]

Those that have followed George for a long time know how innocent and apologetic he can be. He is a good person who seem to wish no part of contravery's, since they are to dramatic for his kind soul.

[@itsmemike403]

@@Rasklo93 reminds me how he would canonically sleep through a lot of the DSMP events cause he didn’t want to be part of the drama

[@ziephel-6780]

this is why I will never be a youtuber, if it were two decades ago I would have been one, but that's now off the table

[@kat_152]

He actually handled it really well. What is showed of his stream, he seemed have presented actual evidence in a very calm manner, being respectful and acknowledging his part while also providing his side if the story. I actually think him admitting to under the shirt touching makes him more credible. He didnt try and deny it, just to explain himself; his explanation seemed very valid.

[@afellowfriend754]

The problem is that chronically online twitter and tiktok users that took him apologizing for making her feel like that as him admitting he did everything to her. Even George said it himself that his response wasnt him admitting anything, yet somehow a bunch of people saw it as that.

[@luisruiz5045]

@@afellowfriend754 I wish people for once would stop jumping straight into conclusions like them. Why can’t we be unbiased and look into both perspectives, but I know the pretty girl is gonna grab all the supporters before George does

[@afellowfriend754]

@@luisruiz5045 Thats just sadly how the internet is these days, im a victim of SA myself and im so tired of seeing girls like Caiti call the dumbest shit sexual assult, when it in fact was not. Even as of now she still has supporters that lack of logic and a decent mindset because Caitiroach herself has literally outed herself to be a lying manipulative scum ever since George's first response.

[@controlwards.75G]

Law student here. Just to give some legal context, in virtually all jurisdictions including the UK and US, INTOXICATED CONSENT **COULD** STILL BE VALID CONSENT. The key differentiator isn't whether it was given while the person is intoxicated or not, but whether the person actually still has the CAPACITY to give consent. Just because you had some alcohol does not mean you are completely out of control of your actions and are not responsible for any of consequences of your conduct. It's a matter of degree. If you are SO drunk that it's objectively clear that you are completely unable to given consent then and only then could you claim that the consent you gave was invalid. If intoxicated consent could never amount to valid consent, then anybody who touches alcohol prior to any sexual conduct could potentially accuse the other of sexual assault/rape, a really stupid scenario. Being drunk isn't a get out of jail free card, just use common sense - eg a drunken driver is still responsible for his actions. Stop undermining the legitimacy of justified claims of sexual assault/rape.

[@Paulie_Geelie]

Literally. Like if having alcohol at all precludes any ability to give consent, I guess that means that no one should ever take their date out for drinks, and if they do they can't touch her even if they're vibing, otherwise they just committed SA

[@funkinchongdongs5575]

​@@Paulie_Geelietrue that

[@katerinavialpando3620]

Here here!

[@BO2R3aperGamIng]

I agree with this, but how would anyone prove how drunk they were in court?

[@Wing_ML]

Afaik, alcohol blocks memory receptors which cause people to have memory loss when they're drunk, but seeing Caiti literally remember every detail of what happened that night, makes me think she wasn't THAT drunk and still had the capacity to give consent.

[@ThatGuyBob125]

Damn so george being understanding and saying "sorry" becuase he didnt know she felt differently about the cuddling and didn't want to hurt her feelings just ended up hurting him more, Essentially allowing people to think he did it with malicious intent even though he didn't. What a fucked up world.

[@MrRogersDid711]

Insane how it takes one awful person making up a lie without evidence can completely ruin a person's life.

[@littlealice4094]

Yeah my PE teacher was accused of being abusive to his wife everybody believed her he ended up doing drugs and later killed himself and then it came out that the wife was lying

[@pugbot9k]

@@littlealice4094 WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU JUST SAY THAT LIKE 😭😭😭😭😭

[@JC..345]

​@@littlealice4094imagine just believing some random bitch over your gym teacher with no evidence or marks

[@JosuGlubo]

@@pugbot9kits somewhat relative to the video and comment.

[@HLqu3MV]

@@littlealice4094 I feel sorry for that teacher...

[@The_Original_Rtxyz]

i love how theres a serious s** discussion and then halfway through this guy advertises a natural vape 💀💀💀

[@Epicgamer_7999]

XD

[@n0kla]

Man's gotta eat

[@bonio326]

He needed the money 🤑🤑

[@CiRdy34]

caught me off guard

[@vhs360]

capitalism

[@maxjacko4344]

completely unrelated but George's friend walking through a drive thru drunk to order tacos is such a mood

[@yoonminieyue]

he still remembers it and he knew he had that taco😼

[@thebl4z3r66]

fr

[@loser9336]

ikr your real for posting this comment

[@nothinginsink]

​@yoonminieyue bruh

[@Angeloandthevacuum]

It’s giving downtown Popeyes

[@hawwyyyyyyy]

Bro. I feel bad for George. After all those years of being friends with Dream and Sapnap, when he got into trouble, they wouldn't help him out. What terrible friends...

[@realinfinity620]

They are still friends. George was playing Minecraft with Dream in his newest video :)

[@hawwyyyyyyy]

@@realinfinity620 Yup! I saw it too! Looks like that they are only hope now of bringing back our favourite childhood game 🙏.

[@SnordLord]

Yeah okay. I've been sexually assaulted by one of my best Friends's mom. Lying about your experience is extremely shameful and disrespectful to the people like us that had to go through shit like this.

[@Reaper._.Z-Z]

Thats Crazy....

[@hdt8710]

Yo r u ok now?

[@cabletherel1]

thats crazy

[@TheEDFLegacy]

I'm sorry. :( I hope you're doing better these days. And you're absolutely right.

[@atanaZion]

I think you are lying and just trying to shame an actuall victim of sa cause you wanna protect your favorite youtuber See? that's how you sound

[@Comrade_Alpaca]

Girl: Lies about what happened. Audience: Sides with Girl instead of George. George: Calls her out for lying. Audience: Still sides with Girl instead of George. Girl: Admits she was lying, but still plays the victim. Audience: Still sides with Girl instead of George. George: Exposes more lies she told. Audience: Still sides with Girl instead of George.

[@StalkerX426]

Society sucks at some points (Like this)

[@itsLozCS]

It's crazy how gullible people are in the internet. One accusation happens without evidence and people immediately side with the "victim". Even without waiting for George to respond people already camee to conclusions

[@Khvicha.kvaradonut77]

This internets new “guilty until proven innocent” is the dumbest thing in the modern world

[@Comrade_Alpaca]

@@Khvicha.kvaradonut77 problem is, it's "Guilty even if proven innocent," now. George proved his innocence and even apologized for doing nothing wrong. Yet, that's not enough for the internet. I'm not even a fan of George or the Dream Team, I have barely watched anything from them. But, there's nothing that excuses this behavior and he didn't deserve any of it.

[@Khvicha.kvaradonut77]

@@Comrade_Alpaca Honestly it might as well be just guilty without innocence with how today is

[@TheWalkingMeme360]

George was cool, calm, and collected. His arguments and tones never changed. Caiti went from crying to screaming, her story was never the same. I genuinely hope that George can rebuild. He deserves none of what he received and if you think he does you are no better than Caiti

[@TR-oc7hh]

Let me say that I’m not defending Caiti or even talking about her at all- but you should realize that an actual sa victim is going to be upset, and being upset about something like that is completely reasonable, and getting visibly upset or crying wouldn’t be out of the ordinary… Please read my comment again when I said I’m not talking about changing stories or Caiti at all you fucking goobers lmao

[@Lolpy.]

@@TR-oc7hh Changing your story whenever new information that contradicts your original account isn’t very typical of a victim, neither is reading off of a motherfucking script to recount the event. Wouldn’t your memory be pretty clear?

[@RequiredToLive]

@@Lolpy. LMFAO. right, these bitches are fucking wild with defaming male content creators like shit. I'll stick with my faithful lover that I have now and if and when I get big I won't jump around in drinking parties and whatnot.

[@alias_crouton2671]

​@@Lolpy.That's true, that's not what they have an issue of. It's specifically that the screaming and crying should be normal for this kind of incident. Her changing her story is completely unacceptable.

[@BigPunDude]

@@Lolpy. did you miss the part in their reply that they weren't defending Caiti?

[@n64slayer]

How is it that a drunk male can consent but as soon as its a female they can't?

[@tails2710]

Fr, the double standards...

[@marlonbundo4324]

Nobody ever said that, bye.

[@dabonethug]

to be fair they said he was the one initiating

[@n64slayer]

@@dabonethug she let him...

[@dabonethug]

@@n64slayer that doesn’t mean consent as explained in the video. you’re asking how a drunk male can consent when they can’t, and people are saying she didn’t consent and not george because he george was the one that initiated. if she did, then that means she also could’ve been accused of SA. in my opinion i don’t think touching her waist is SA after an hour of cuddling, but the consent still stands.

[@pucklez3646]

Its crazy how even Georges own friends are so easily media driven that, without the full details, even they turn against him.

[@01superchunk66]

Honestly, that's the bit I feel most sorry for George, his friends turned on him even when, at that point, it was pretty clear a lot was off from her side

[@annassromova4197]

not just his friends, Dream was the WITNESS of the situation!! He threw his friend who he knew was innocent right under the bus.

[@floydpulley3509]

He self destructed so they had no choice due to their livelihood. by apologising and accepting responsibility, they had to do damage control to save their own careers.

[@manu-animation-924]

@@01superchunk66i think George wanted to save his friends career by asking them to be neutral but lean with Caiti and he wanted to deal this by himself

[@yihadistxdl951]

@@annassromova4197 yep. what kind of a friend throws their own BEST FRIEND under the bus for clout? dream is a shitty guy. always was.

[@KirigayaOokami]

_In other words, another false claim of sexual assault ruining a man's life, that should be enough to land the woman in prison._

[@hiddenguy67]

should get same sentence as an assaulter

[@hiddenguy67]

@@differ812 yeah, she faked it and she should get the same sentence as if he did do it

[@HopeIsADrug11037]

anyone who makes fake sexual assault claims should get the same sentence

[@GracedApollo476]

Ok comment absorbed. Completely different subject though, how the hell did you get italic text on your comment??

[@HopeIsADrug11037]

@@GracedApollo476 you didnt ask me, but, you can do it with _ on each side! like _ this _ but without the spaces. _wuhaha_

[@Emilia-tv2zo]

this is so sad. the way his friends completely abandoned him as well to save their own face even though george stayed with dream throughout his whole drama

[@shivanshbisht9439]

The world is definitely unfair

[@hisporal3346]

they didn't

[@14_über_alles]

The definition of sadness

[@taniac.6774]

fake friends, I would never talk to them again. Turning on him just to save themselves, smh can u believe that?!

[@hisporal3346]

@@taniac.6774 omfg they didn't turn on him stop feeding into misinfo. dream literally received half if not most(which is strange)of the hate and harassment, he edited georges response&helped gathering evidence&personally dealt with bs some ppl tried to start after that. sapnap in his own response straight up said he loves his friend and mentions him on every other stream. none of them ever admitted it was SA

[@unrealgamer27bs46]

It honestly scares me how easily twitter will jump onto someone's neck when a girl accuses them of SA without giving any proof, even if she was right in the end. Scary

[@Rixuous]

This happened to me in highschool. A girl and her friends didn't like me... so she got close/flirted with me, I felt there was some physical consent, and barely anything happened. But the next day, she lied to the principal and the police saying that I r*ed her, and I got expelled and was facing sexual assault charges at 14. The ridiculous situation only ended because the *actual* incident was caught on the cameras in the school. Unfortunately, the damage was done, my friends abandoned me, and I had to move schools. Often times, men don’t win in cases like this, especially when it comes to the aftermath of being accused, like losing friends, environments, scholarships or sponsorships, sometimes even jobs, no matter if it's the truth, or if it's just completely made-up. Real sexual assault victims get taken less seriously when things like this happen, simply because someone wants to make someone else's life harder. What a pathetic world we live in. Edit: “Barely anything happened” was a way for me to keep my personal life a little more personal, not “downplay” what happened. If you’re really that concerned, read the subcomments and it should answer your questions, thank you.

[@IKER1000sYT]

ask for a dna test

[@TroublezAhead00]

​@Vandelorian Enough happened for it to be considered rape? Hell, even when consent was given, girls have still falsely claimed SA.

[@chrisbotch3528]

@@Vandelorian stop baiting loser

[@altaccount9716]

​@@VandelorianPreach.

[@Jaden_JayJay]

@@Vandelorian are you like tryna rage bait

[@krispcode]

The fact that his friends caved under pressure from people on the internet and decided to even speak on the matter and speak poorly about him is something I personally could never forgive.

[@Slugstack9337]

Honestly its so messed up people that cave because of others aren't really friends and if I ever do that I would hope for someone to call me out

[@You-vv1xv]

DUDE I FEEL SO BAD FOR BRO 😭😭😭😭😭 I ALR KNOW HOW THIS STORY ENDS IM ABT TO BE IN TEARS

[@kuzakiv3095]

Probably would have done the same if it was one of his friends under fire, those youtube friend circles are snake pits

[@Fritz9672]

@@kuzakiv3095 Broski you just admitted you're also a snake lmao, what in the hypocrisy

[@dragongirl3148]

Bro I knew about this faker accusing George and lying but I didn't realise that both Dream and Sapnap just immediatly turned on George without listening to his side first. Both of them talking shit about George only made the Internet believe George was wrong even tho you can clearly tell from Caiti's tweet that she was lying. I feel so bad for him man.

[@aussiedragonz]

i never believed Caiti. her crying was so fake and the fact people believed it, is so insulting to ACTUAL victims. and she was wearing a 21+ wristband, lying to *everyone* . what a vile being.

[@SySpice]

My thoughts exactly

[@TheFailedPhantom]

Each account Caiti made sounded less and less true

[@bigmike1432]

idk if its common for people who have been victim to SA to need it but I felt like her reading off her phone was a bit weird

[@jehugonzalez1725]

@@bigmike1432same, I found it strange. Usually something this major would stick in your mind well enough to speak about it without reading off a phone

[@Inverse_Ace]

@@jehugonzalez1725 She needed notes, to keep all her lies straight

[@bunnysenpai1018]

Sexual assault is NO joke, but accusing someone who’s did NOT sexually assault someone is even worse. You’re ruining someone’s life who didn’t even do anything

[@sampadnag2928]

George's actions genuinely showed that he is a good guy. Not only he accepted his mistake but also apologised for what he allegedly did but still got the backlash because of what ? For being a good guy. Really people these days believe a skank who changes their perspective but not a guy who apologies.

[@gus8460]

George did what we man are being train to do in present day, apologize for everything and anything.

[@sampadnag2928]

@@gus8460 bro that's what makes us man. We are not like female who do not acknowledge their mistakes and still yap after they were proven wrong. The guy accepted his mistake and apologised for that, whereas every time the girl's statements changed. I have high doubt whether what she is saying is at all true or not

[@yone1401]

@@sampadnag2928 female 💀

[@bad-info369]

@@sampadnag2928and sadly men are the ones who set that system up and mostly men who continue to support the system. Maybe you guys will actually overcome it if you just acknowledged that it’s actually mostly your own team, aka males against other males. And not mostly females against males because you’re not realizing the root cause of these problems or the main supporters of it

[@jag6262]

The dude just tried his moves, she gave no bad feedback or rejection to his moves, then he thinks his moves are working and gets a little more bold, then he tries going to her room and gets denied and he just takes the rejection immediately and walks away XD. TRULY did nothing wrong, he's a good kid. he walked away at the first no but the thing is the first no was uttered too late in the night. This is her mistake for not rejecting his advances earlier, simple as that, even she says she didn't wanna make a stink about it so she played it cool, that's all we need to know about her mindset and her level of maturity.

[@jonmayer]

What really sucks is that his friend's didn't support him. Dream and Sapnap suck as friends. George is innocent and a victim of false accusations. Poor George.

[@ReilyGomez-hd1ys]

Thats just crazy. Your own friends?

[@JoelSuasi]

For real lol. I hope he finally realizes that they're not his friends.​@@ReilyGomez-hd1ys

[@sanslev8924]

you can't blame sap nap and dream if George was terrible at explaining himself and said sorry as if he had done something wrong

[@eatjenni]

⁠@@sanslev8924George was not at all terrible, he was only cautious, understanding, and overly honest about everything. He apologised INCASE that he had actually made Caiti uncomfortable despite not knowing she was, not to admit that he was guilty of the allegations.

[@kentacy69]

George: Im sorry, I fucked up. Sap, dream backing the wronged party, accuser even said so (took the blame by apologizing) why would you not show support for the "victim" at that point?

[@KudaXD]

I wonder if Caiti's script occasionally said "pause to cry"

[@StuShitpost]

It probably did

[@tlkfanrwbyfan8716]

Script? Edit: This was sarcasm but I see how it was literally impossible to tell.

[@christophercardoza2872]

@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716Did you not realize she talked like she was reading a wattpad novel about SA on her phone for most of the alleged crimes.

[@KudaXD]

@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 she read off her phone like the entire time lmfao. lets not talk about how donations were enabled in the top left 💀💀

[@LoL64dude1]

There was probably a pop up of different dialogues like in video games to progress through the bad ending.

[@Iilah-ah]

18:10 I am so tired of people acting like 18 year olds aren't adults. They are more than able to think for themselves. Also, there's no way she was too drunk not to give consent

[@BlackBanditXX]

A word of warning, in most jurisdictions of the US, you don't have to be too drunk to drive, to be too drunk to consent.

[@Iilah-ah]

@@BlackBanditXX yeah I know. Your DUI laws are insanly relaxed. Here in Sweden I can have one beer and probably lose my licens if I tried to drive

[@garbearfar1394]

Especially an 18 yo who has somehow acquired a 21 wristband from the convention. Clearly she is an adult if she’s willing to lie to drink alcohol 5 months after turning 18 💀

[@AlexandraTheBlonde13]

THEY ARE NOT CHILDREN!!!!! (agreeing with you lol)

[@gloryrust342]

Wait so the summary is: He seen her with a legal drinking age wristband prior to the incident, and in the hotel they cuddled for 1 hour and she showed 0 signs of discomfort or any signs that would make him feel he doesn't have consent and after he put his hand around her waist she accuses him for sexual assault ?

[@MysterioIII69]

welcome to the world. where women take advantage of men (child support, divorce men and take everything the men worked for, and accuse them of s assault for no reason)

[@soupsundying]

You missed the part where she's now saying he felt up her tit. but yeah.

[@halowiz1000]

and she remembers everything that happened, while she was drunk. meaning at any point she could've said no to anything that happened. but she didnt....

[@lvkillawolfvl1921]

​@halowiz1000 my problem with some people in this is the fact that some people were saying "you can't give consent if you're drunk" you absolutely can, are you going to be in the complete right mind ? No. Ngl every time I've been drunk I've been able to control what I think, until I got blackout drunk. Then I couldn't control myself or my actions.

[@ventusargentum9957]

@@lvkillawolfvl1921 You can't give *_competent_* consent because being drunk does dull the critical-thinking side of things, but if you don't want to do something you ain't gonna. Alcohol lifts your normal inhibitions, allowing you to do things that non-drunk you might be hesitant to do, but it doesn't completely wipe your sense of self. However that is why you "can't" give consent. You're not thinking clearly. Things that seem like a good idea while drunk may be something you'd refuse while sober. Sober you is the one controls consent, because they're the one that has to live with it. If you're not bothered by your drunk decisions, cool. Not everyone is.

[@groguuuyoda9479]

To the people who still support this "woman" shame on you

[@hadrasfan9912]

I agree.

[@Cussmem07]

​@@hadrasfan9912If you get drunk by your own will it is not SA

[@cabletherel1]

@@Cussmem07 but it wasnt by her own will and if it was it was still illegal

[@Cussmem07]

@@cabletherel1 Unless someone holds your head and forces the bottle into your mouth, it is your own will

[@micahslash]

@@cabletherel1 1. She was over 18. Not illegal. She consented. She lied about her age. They were both drunk. She's a liar and a bitch.

[@ArcticWolf26]

My boi George got falsly accused betrayed by his friends and permanently had his reputation stunted or damaged because of a idiotic 18 year old wanting to be a victim

[@mhshaukat6888]

wild these days💀

[@generaljackripper666]

Defamation lawsuit.

[@garrettscofield9726]

That’s that victim mindset now a days. Honestly caitis claims are more regret that is happened then actual SA without consent

[@Baditow]

it's a social issue, and instead of addressing it socially like a normal person she'd rather find some excuse to her social ineptness and blow it up behind the misconception hate mob of twitter. this situation is literally the pronoun conundrum blown up to SA.

[@Mikeinator_]

If that's considered sexual assault, then tickling is 3rd degree murder.

[@Nalsyluff]

Love the part where Dream and Sapnap threw George under the bus. Really good friends considering Caiti's story is so inconsistent from version to version. And for Caiti, that's embarrassing, to slander a content creator and for what? Clout? Hate? This is why nobody can trust anything anymore, because of all the lies you can spread at the drop of a hat. George didn't deserve this. Caiti is a psycho.

[@ItsPungpond98]

The fact that this sort of allegations discredits the actual victims even more made it more sad.

[@ishbersue1352]

Can I ask what Dream and Sapnap did during that time? Thanks

[@j_m12341]

Because she knows shell win because shes a woman

[@bungersinyourarea]

​@@ishbersue1352they threw their homeboy under the bus to make themselves look good

[@xenigma1414]

Well, I can see why they would side with caiti despite the inconsistencies due to George's awful second response as he basically condemned himself. It seems like he was innocent for the most part, but he did a really bad job with that second response.

[@markshiman5690]

She's 18 and he was 26? The way she said her story made it sound like she was like, 15... He should sue for defamation.

[@Rainy_8]

yeah, im pretty sure 18 is over the age of consent in the place they were, correct me if im wrong.

[@papahusky1263]

She also had a 21+ wristband on.

[@itzzmadness-_-6712]

@@Rainy_8 yah most States have their consent is at the age of like 17 and some go lower also she should be mad at her friends for pressuring her to drink while underage instead of this very obvious false SA shit

[@kajuskup375]

⁠@@Rainy_818 is consentual world wide, tf you mean “in the place they were” it’s even younger in other places

[@abstractnite4292]

@@itzzmadness-_-6712 no in the States its 18 the individual State laws of consent are never followed but the federal age is which again is 18

[@Tyranid_Hive_Mind]

Being a minecraft youtuber is basically a curse at this point

[@shadoweye306]

It is both a curse and a blessing. You can get a shit ton of money (if you were a MC KZbinr when the agme was in its prime) but also you will be bound to have a grooming minors allegations or a texting minors scandal. You get money but also get fucked by an allegation

[@neoqwerty]

@@shadoweye306 I think the only safe ones are the ones who just do redstone and stay the hell away from anything but Hermitcraft, at this point. There's something in the red glowy electricity dust that scares off hormones, I swear.

[@Deodank]

@@shadoweye306 If they didnt want to be involved in allegations, they shouldn't have chose to be a youtuber. Those jobs are the most unstable sources of income and you have to be an idiot to be a youtuber since that means you have to throw yourself into internet drama. They made their bed, they can sleep in it.

[@GianEditss]

DanTDM, Vikkstar123, Stampy all examples of drama free minecraft KZbinrs

[@Bt-cq6te]

@@GianEditss u forgot a big one, literally all of Hermitcraft

[@joycedino8210]

It sucks that people just one side everything just because they because they hear one person's story and not bother hearing the other person's story.

[@Wernimations]

Crazy how Caiti can lie about this, destroy his reputation and then just vanish with no consequences

[@andrewedward5181]

Exactly.

[@TheUglyPotato]

Exactly.

[@parallaxninja456]

just checked and shes alive and well on twitch with over 200k followers lol

[@andrewedward5181]

@@parallaxninja456 I don't think she's been active on that for a while though

[@00JTR]

happens all the time. Happened with Dream and Kwite as well. It needs to be illegal.

[@NorthInium]

Honestly George should sue Caitybugz for defamation

[@eliasziad7864]

George is a pussy because he is "too nice."

[@NorthInium]

@HelloOki Nice ragebait

[@KryptiksFN]

@HelloOkistfu and make me a sandwich

[@m.a3157]

​@HelloOkiwomp womp

[@kaiserfrfr]

@@NorthIniumExactly lol

[@kakamannss]

so basically they were both drunk and messed around and when she was finally sober she regretted it and turned it into an SA allegation. Crazy

[@Foaplo]

Happens far too often unfortunately.

[@neverleft636]

Happens to college athletes a lot and it’s ruined many potential NFL careers specifically too

[@joecrypto2459]

Personally, what i got from the video is that she intentionally did this to gain cloud over his back...

[@katelynholmes9504]

They weren’t forcing that alcohol down her throat

[@FoXElTee]

The fact that she was under the legal age for drinking is even crazier, if she lied about her age she'd definitely lie about this whole thing

[@Everie]

A victim never reads their story. They remember. Everything. Down to the last detail. Once she began reading on her cellphone, it was clear: She was lying. Poor man... I wish him psychological strenght to go through this

[@mzmo_castagnoli1885]

It was also obvious Caiti was piling up her lies. When her eyes were looking sideways up to the left, it was clear she kept stitching more lies. Plus her audacity to screech higher was enough to tell she was just waiting for the time the pressure gets to George. He should have stood his ground even if his friends never helped out on his ordeal and he should have never apologized.

[@Digimon575]

He should sue her for defamation.

[@Shadowy_2]

He can try, but sadly, he probably wouldn't win without the court. System favors women immensely, especially if he get to woman judge. Trust me, I know from experience. The court system sucks if you're a man. If you're a woman the sad truth is you could just accuse someone of rape and probably get away were there nowadays.

[@DeepDownInTheOcean]

@Shadowy_2 Yes, that is true is most states of America, but George lives in Florida, a state where the government still does not value women's rights. Therefore, even if George did it, he'd still most likely win if he sued her for defamation. But since he has all the proof of him not SAing her, there's a 99% chance he'd win. If you want to do more research, look into Mother states vs Father states.

[@7Halos]

@@Shadowy_2this is just not true

[@Shadowy_2]

@@7Halos Sure whatever you say. I've seen it with the Ione eyes. Almost experienced it. Believe what you like.But I can say with a certainty This does exist.

[@poppy-jb3st]

​@@Shadowy_2maybe in your imagination it does. men get away with actual sa so fucking often because the court system hates women, especially non-white women

[@yillalbertoterrero]

Falsely accusing someone of something as serious as this is disgusting. The fact she decided to go online and say all that instead of going to the police says everything she actually cares about.

[@kevinsaga3525]

It's very interesting that she always calls him a abuser or worse but only keeps the drama online instead of going to law enforcement or anything similar instead she immediately goes for the reputation which shouldn't be as important if at all

[@Changed.User100]

False accusations like this needs to be taken more seriously. I hate how when a accusation is thrown against a man by a woman people always side with the woman without hearing the other perspective.

[@incendi0core]

to them any kind of attention is good I guess

[@baileysellers7877]

@@kevinsaga3525 when u go to the police you need lots of actual physical evidence and she obviously didn't have it so the internet was the next best option.

[@marcuswanha9723]

​@@baileysellers7877 if you don't have that much of evidence than you probably shouldn't even go online as it opens you to civil repercussions (lawsuits). Going to the police is still the best move as at least they will be required to take a report. Which will at least they can follow if someone else would file a report against her. Now also in this specific case yeah this just feels like a girl with an ax to grind that didn't intentionally harm someone. Her story changes time and again. It seems like a case of trying to get after someone she just didn't like. Best case situation is she felt uncomfortable with how things happened and built all this up in her head as she feels a sort of regret over what happened.

[@nootnoot6404]

Moral of the story : when you're being accused of something you know you didn't do, have some balls, stand your ground and make sure your friends are reliable and trustworthy

[@11Tits]

and never ever ever say sorry. the first to say sorry is the one who looses.

[@markshiman5690]

lawyer up

[@zawarudo1041]

dream and that second person gladly threw him under the bus to avoid rage from twitter/tiktok "folks" for twitter/twitter "folks" care not about facts

[@meatieee]

yea hes got some shit friends tbh but we knew that already…

[@miguellilly8859]

better yet lawsuit for defamation of character

[@AnnacolleenEtters]

Fake crying, no one forced her to drink. Being encouraged to drink does not mean they held her down, and forced her to do so. She isn't 13, is she? I call BS

[@copeul7214]

Solution to a problem: stop letting twitter be the lawyer in serious cases

[@JoeVahns]

it’s not that simple twitter isn’t really changing the law but it is ruining his reputation and because they are famous and the girl decided to do this publicly if George were to not respond publicly it would be like admitting to it which then again his whole career is being a famous person and you can’t have that if your reputation is ruined

[@copeul7214]

@@JoeVahns that’s a better way to put it that’s exactly what I meant it ruins peoples careers that they relied on which mega sucks for the people that didn’t deserve anything

[@ikhfarakmaltuvfx]

​@@copeul7214KZbin Peoples:

[@perseusbolt3591]

There’s the matter of public opinion man nun u can do.

[@copeul7214]

@@perseusbolt3591 I’m just sick of it suck’s can’t do non about it

[@Emzy2217]

The fact that people haven't learned the idea of "innocent until proven guilty" is baffling. You think after the Salem Witch Trials, people nowadays would know, but apparently, this generation is too blindsided to pay attention in school.

[@Emzy2217]

Honestly, I do not care if one is an influencer or not, George has all the grounds to sue for defamation. Caiti also is underage drinking, so any allegations she makes would get thrown out because she's illegally drinking. Her being drunk also removes any concrete evidence she has. Nobody can accurately recount details to the dot, ESPECIALLY if you're drunk.

[@hush2633]

Unfortunately people these days don’t even care about innocent until proven guilty because guilty until proven innocent is trending. Same thing happened with Kwite and Rex Orange County. These same accusers who believe one side first don’t even bother to check on the case or see its updates afterwards but just go off of other’s opinions and say “aren’t you a r//apist? Didn’t you sexually assault someone?” They throw around every word in the book at someone even if it isn’t true just so it can “justify” their hate and jump on the trend.

[@dudejuice]

Even more ironic when they are on the internet. You know where a lot of information is stored

[@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070]

School doesn't help much with that

[@OrionDakota]

@@Emzy2217 Yeah and the classic double standard. "We were BOTH drinking and I gave literally zero indications that I was uncomfortable but George as a MAN is guilty of sexual assault for thinking me rejoining him for a cuddle on the couch meant I was into him."

[@funkierblum]

George shouldn’t have apoogised. He should’ve known that twitter and youtube audiences would take his apology as an admission of guilt instead of what it really was, which is feeling sorry for something he didn’t realise at the time that (key word) COULD make someone else uncomfortable. If there’s something I’ve noticed is that apologies are instantly responded to with hatred and more controversy. He should’ve consulted it with someone else before to not make it seem like an apology.

[@vibharaut7636]

Yeah tbh dude needs better friends. If he wasn't surrounded by a bunch of people siding with her and not giving him a shred of charitability maybe he wouldn't have felt obligated to apologise in his second response since he probably felt like the odd one out. But nevertheless, he shouldve stood firm with his first response and exposed all the misinformation without trying to pander to his crazy audience.

[@SyedSaadAlam69420]

@@vibharaut7636 they just heard the story and supported her the entire time

[@Noculous]

False accusers should face the same charges and penalties as an SA initiator.

[@ah795u]

That's a terrible take. The number of sexual assaults that can't be proven is massive, a minority of actual perpetrators get convicted

[@drooley]

The worst part is, George didn't even do anything wrong. They were both drunk, and there were hints to continue whatever cuddling they were doing. Talk about playing the victim 💀

[@vacdek]

I found it funny how they are treating it like she was under 18 as well. Freshly 18 is still 18.

[@piskor3978]

​​@@vacdek She wasnt even freshly 18*. She was almost 19 and later she said "i misspoke i meant that i was freshly off the highschool" so even more* bullshit xDD

[@jonatanrobledo9812]

​@@piskor3978 I also love how everyone just ignored the fact that she already went partying and drank alcohol before she turned even close to 18. But suddenly, THEY *MADE* her drink, like the girl was suddenly the most puritan god-fearing person ever till that night and just drank out of fear. She is already an adult, and she should be treated as such. Including prison time/monetary recompensation for the damage to HIS image.

[@Juju2927]

@@vacdek The "Freshly 18 part" could have been important if there was a huge age gap, and especially if the adult knew them before. In that case, there could be grooming accusations. But yeah, seeing how both are in what I call the "College area", it's not that important.

[@Misdrex]

@@jonatanrobledo9812 she was wearing a 21+ wristband too she got from a friend so they didnt even know she was under the drinking age

[@BloxxingDinosaurus]

I hate how a respectful apology is seen as admission of guilt. I will never apologize again if I am not wrong.

[@jayATUK]

Ikr. It's a terrible morale to take away from this, and yet... admitting anything at all has them pouncing on it like lions on prey. Humanity is going in an awful direction.

[@mastermindinclude7198]

True, like the if criminal gets to play the victim, the actual victim should play it more.

[@LoveOverdoseALDC]

RETWEET

[@AskMe-fl2sm]

Yeah.he apologised for unintentionally hurting her but she made it seem like he admitted to assault

[@thegaminghero2201]

I've recognized this and stopped apologizing even when I am in the wrong. People take an apology as justification and honestly just become more spiteful and resentful when they get one. generally it seems like the rage of never getting an apology is less than the self justified rage of having gotten one.

[@Starrky923]

what annoys me in those stories the most is the fact that they make actual victims way less trustworthy and undermine the whole thing and I really wish those people got de-platformed instead

[@vividsftw67]

Honestly i dont be trusting anyone anymore when i hear theyre a victim . Gotten to the point where i just dont get involved (whivh ik is bad)

[@tomriddle164]

Same. Hate to say it but now when I hear people (esp women) say they're victims of so and so, unfortunately my first response is doubt, especially if its just hearsay and the dude has some form of influence or power.@@vividsftw67

[@purplewolfranger22]

​@@vividsftw67yup, I'm in the same boat. Show the proof or don't even say anything, I can't trust a word being said.

[@itsme558]

​@@vividsftw67 Same thinking its so bad that what if my friend gets accussed of it that im overthinking so much that my decision is just to not get involved in it

[@andrewedward5181]

The irony is the only real platform she ever had is for coming out with these lies. Her livelihood is not tied to an internet presence anywhere near to how George's is. People like her can just pop up for a short moment, ruin a career because "TrUst VicTimS GuYS, HuMAns TotAllLY DOn'T LiE" and then poof she can just go on with her life like nothings happened while leaving someone destroyed.

[@andrewisbruh]

the fact that she had donations on at the end of the video blows my mind. if youre a victim why are you still engaging with chat during a serious testimony??

[@arehzul]

My friend self deleted himself after she accused him of SA. His life started to go downhill after that. His scholarship got taken away and his football coach never let him play any match after that. His family were poor and he doesn't want to burden them. So he dropout from the college. After 2 years he self deleted himself because his mom died and his dreams as a pro football player being taken away from him. Rest in Peace brother.

[@G4072m]

Was it the same person who accused George?

[@arehzul]

@@G4072m yeah probably. She looks the same.

[@grumpyseagull]

That's just.. vile. There should be laws regarding false accusations.

[@jinxinx0128]

​@@grumpyseagull There is, however, Governments wont do anything UNTIL it's too late.

[@hi_867]

i dont even get what makes a person want to accuse someone innocent of that its insane

[@hyazi]

her story was so ass, clearly fake and obviously unbelievable 💀

[@Seungberry_world_domination]

Real 💀 her reading off her phone while starting her allegations 😭 she’s prob reading some fake ass wattpad story

[@sejalnagpuria9111]

the whole he left with a puppy face IS SO weird PEOPLE DON'T DESCRIBE THEIR ASSAULTERS LIKE THAT

[@EsenkaiKaizen]

BRUHH FUCKKK CAITIIIII I MISS GEORGE

[@rav0nn]

@@Seungberry_world_domination not many people have talked about it, but ive noticed whilst reading her 'story' she doesnt once look directly at the camera whilst saying it, always facing off to the side. typically not being able to make eye contact (in this case looking at the camera directly) is usually a sign of deception and lying

[@xekeyo]

@@rav0nn that doesnt really make any sense someone who cant make eye contact can very easily look at a camera lens while recording

[@wppsy]

The whole situation sucks and shows what is wrong with today's society. People automatically jump with no backing and trust what everyone says on the internet far too easily. The backlash that Dream received and still does when he has literally proven his innocence is still doubted to this day - and now it's George's turn. The only thing George was guilty of was for saying "sorry"; not only did a lot of his audience betrayed him but so did his friends - who also went through this sort of experience *cough* Dream *cough*. I don't even know these guys so I'm completely unbiased, but hope they can recover and get an audience that they deserve. It was very clear that she misrepresented things to make something so miniscule turn into something so career-devastating. The worst case of all of this, is that nobody never seems to actually learn. They crave for the next creator to be outed.

[@StallionStudios1234]

Lots of toxic people on social media that will do anything for attention or controversy. They crave the attention because they don't have anything meaningful enough in their actual lives.

[@Duckelboy]

I cant agree with you more.

[@soulsearcher7077]

yeah this George guy has some rlly shitty friends

[@phantamanta4453]

@UppyWupps While I don't fully trust what people have talked about Dream, I won't put it past either if he did 'something', (That doesn't mean things like SA or worse). The reason why is because of the big lie he was caught in (The Speedrun one), where he allegedly hired an actual mathematician from an university, or something in these lines, only to turn out to be boogus, and then suddenly 'realizing' he had a mod on causing him to have better drops (Hence why people use the "Dream luck" meme). Once you lie this big just for internet points, when you say the actual truth, people are less likely to believe you. Same goes for the story The boy who cried Wolf. He did it as a funny but once an actual wolf was there, nobody believed him.

[@marialopez-ql9ec]

“Imagen grooming and getting cooked by gumball waterson 🍷🗿”🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️☝️

[@EmilyFernando-h1v]

In the case involving GeorgeNotFound, a 23-year-old KZbinr, an 18-year-old named Caiti accused him of inappropriate behavior. However, it has been brought to light that during the incident, Caiti was actually 17 and heavily intoxicated, despite her claim of being 'freshly 18' in her statement. Additionally, Caiti's reliance on her phone while giving her statement contrasts with George's direct engagement with the camera. These discrepancies underline the necessity of a comprehensive and impartial investigation to ensure all relevant details are thoroughly examined and justice is appropriately served for both parties.

[@parthavvari2384]

The thing that frustrates me so much is how false allegations of SA not only ruined the reputation and career of GeorgeNotFound, but also how it makes people think real SA allegations are false and dismiss them.

[@calvincooper2661]

That’s what upsets me most about accusations like these as well. She’s not just impacting one person, she causing harm to all SA victims

[@RamzaBeoulves]

I'm pretty sure what destroyed his career was himself saying he never considered how his fame, money and entourage could influence or pressure people. Especially his young fans

[@NovelVampire]

yeah and you will never hear feminist speak about this. They will rant about everything inane but actions causing actual damage to their organizations are at best ignored or even encouraged and used as example. Modern day feminists are a joke

[@Jollymw]

the drinking age wrist band closed this case for me, that along side admitting to hiding discomfort . just some nobody clout chasing

[@sophjt]

100%

[@demo2497]

People literally do fucking ANYTHING for attention. Like, did your "family" not do a good job raising you?

[@UplandXenoMan]

real

[@marlonbundo4324]

Yeah teenage girls are dumb, that’s why adult men need to leave them alone. Stop messing with teenagers and this will never happen.

[@connerowenn9868]

im so sick of this "cancel culture" that we're all living in

[@winddisorder]

It's seriously been around for so long. People really just don't like hearing and siding the truth

[@Long_Island_HaXer]

Think it's just better to just avoid social media altogether to get away from all the BS.

[@_sIash]

real jobs are the way

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

then avoid social media, avoid youtube

[@-Apathy-]

Fr

[@nathaniel_officially_real]

One thinng that is seemingly ignored is the fact that most (if not all) hotels have CCTV in the hallways. Surely the logical thing to do would be to check the CCTV footage and see how they were behaving on the way to the room. This would confirm if the girls were already drunk, it would confirm whether the online friend left first or not. This seems logical right?

[@mykal2803]

"freshly 18" will never not make me laugh, im sorry but the fact she describes herself like that.. gold. Freshly 18 sounds like a porn site.

[@certifiedidiot0]

lmao

[@Gogetaa]

Freshly 18 when she's almost closer to 19 than to 18 💀

[@sychonautica8344]

ahahaha true XD

[@MeganGoodman-q7g]

she is angry because of what happened to her.

[@cloudlemons]

@@Gogetaa was she closer to 19 when it happened? Cuz that’s what she’s saying

[@phantekkiimagenius9727]

The main takeaway for me is how quick Sapnap and Dream appealed to the victim side instead of sticking with their own stories. Of course, it would be worse if they took George’s side if he actually did something, but he didn’t, and those two should be more than sure of that. I don’t understand how these friends would respond in such a way. There should be the option of standing by their friend (if they believe he did not do such a thing) and also not condemning the individual claiming to be hurt. They did not have to go bite George in the back like that. I am confused.

[@loser9336]

I know - it actually makes me mad that more people aren't talking about Sapnap just completely throwing George under the bus. I mean, he literally said Caiti was right and George was in the wrong. I called him out on Twitter so many times and it was so annoying not seeing more people call Sapnap for that. So annoying. Like literally SOOOO annoying

[@DrippedSlime]

@@loser9336 sap wasnt even there hes going based off whats being tossed into the feed. now him saying george was in the wrong is fucked but he was also just trying to show remorse for a alleged victim

[@jerryzhang5032]

nah i bet george told them to do it cause at the end of the day it's their careers at stake

[@vincentdreemurr]

public image before personal relations.

[@vincentdreemurr]

it's so dumb that this is the case

[@spiderlily723]

One aspect that's not focused on enough is SHE PRETENDED TO BE OVER 21. If you pretend to be of xyz age, be prepared for actions appropriate for xyz age. If you get into a bar with a fake ID, you can't cry wolf when you're served alcohol.

[@theshadowking3198]

Xyz?

[@iLevente]

​@@theshadowking3198xyz means the age that you pretend you are.

[@notyourpookiee]

@@theshadowking3198 what are you asking

[@arjaysg]

@@theshadowking3198 you cannot be serious.

[@theshadowking3198]

@@arjaysg what I have no clue what it is why y’all getting pressed

[@ItsJam3z]

What's really interesting to me is every time she tried to debunk his claims she added that he touched her in more and more different ways, like touching her breasts when the original statement she made was his hand was under her shirt just a bit. Just seems like a boy crying wolf scenario. I'm not a big fan of George at all, but it seems like he's getting shit for no reason and the story is being blown way out of proportion. This is why people have a hard time with SA cases because of people who blatantly lie about the scenario to make it sound more serious than it actually was to get someone in trouble.

[@MarcusOsman]

George is an idiot for apologizing for something he didn’t do. If you ever find yourself in crap online don’t respond.

[@cookiegames8464]

I think this whole "Minecraft community" got to his head. All of his closest friends are in it. All of them were shaming him and attacking him, so ofc he's gonna start to believe HES in the wrong. Sad world full of demons who pretend to be angels ugh🤦‍♂️

[@derpy9452]

@@cookiegames8464 Yeah, I agree with initial comment but when your audience is a bunch of kids who fall for things easily, and one of your biggest hate communities is primarily on twitter. Silence speaks louder than anything else, so the less he spoke the more speculation was brought forward, he thought he had to do something, but what he did, was push the gun barrel further into his mouth. But at least we found out which one was the liar.

[@LionelMessi-ll9us]

​@@cookiegames8464Dream and George were actively getting death threats In the heat of the moment he took way more accountability than needed

[@BlackslooklikeHarambe]

It’s pretty hilarious. I’ve never heard of these people before. I just find it hilarious that they got publicly EMBARRASSED

[@AmayaElls]

Also I think part of the problem is he didn't clarify exactly what he was apologising for when he should have. I think he meant his first apology was an "I am sorry I played a part in making you feel uncomfortable" a simple apology for an accidental harm, like one would apologise for bumping into someone in a crowd or for making a well meaning joke or jab that hurt your friends feelings. These moments of accidental harm are ones we are taught to apologise for, and I appreciate the awareness of seeing that just because I and others saw it as harmless didn't mean I didn't cause harm. However many people nowadays don't like to apologise for accidents so when you don't clarify (or even when you do) they assume its an admission. The second apology I think was more along the lines of "I was not at all aware there was a possible power dynamic issue in potential relationships, sorry you and others might have been caught in this." I think he did clarify this one better but I think people are less aware of the danger of financial and reputational power imbalances in relationships and might not be as aware as he was about the severity of this issue. Frankly he dealt with is so maturely but lately it feels many people don't realise that a truly empathic person will want to apologise for accidents, for hurt they see even if they do not understand (emotions aren't logical) and to make a promise to be better.

[@whatwhowhenzo]

"In the moment, I was chilling". She was so comfortable in fact, that she got up after the undershirt touching, to say goodbye to her best friend who wasn't feeling well, and decided that instead of going with her sick friend back to their room, she'd rather stay with George instead, someone she knew was 8 years older than her, whom she had already been cuddling with and had the undershirt touching already happen, and went back to his arms for more the cuddling/touching. BUT, the next day, when her little friends/new acquaintances started gossiping about how she and George were cuddling and that he had touched her under her shirt, this is what happened: After being asked how she felt about it by a couple people the next day who used language like "I didn't like how touchy he was being" or "he was really touchy", she decided to save face and not look like 'that kind of girl' aka 'groupie-lite' to these people by making up a story which completely removed her agency. She did not want to admit to these people that in fact she was perfectly fine with being cuddly with a guy she knew was 8 years her senior who she had only met the day before, and even chose to stay and continue the cuddling/under shirt touching instead of leaving with her friend because she was completely comfortable that night with the situation. So Caiti changed the truth of her choosing to drink, to the lie that it was that she was made to drink. The truth that she was knowingly being flirty and cuddling with someone 8 years her senior, to the lie that it was George who took advantage of the age gap on purpose. The truth that she was enjoying being in the company of someone famous, to the lie that it was George wielding his fame/power over her. And the truth that she was enjoying her time with him and consenting to the touching/flirting back (which there is nothing morally wrong with that), to the lie that it was that George did it suddenly out of nowhere. She regretted the gossip and views the other people had about that night of her and George being cuddly/touchy feely (not one person stated that Caiti looked uncomfortable, just that the age gap / touchiness made THEM uncomfortable), and that is what drove her to fabricate the whole no consent story. Which is the other reason why she kept on reiterating about it being 'in front of everyone' and even made the outlandish claim in her third version, that it would have been better if it happened when they were alone. It wasn't because she was uncomfortable that people were watching, it was that those that saw, gossiped about it later, and felt put into a position where she either had to admit she was 'that kind of girl' that they wouldn't approve of (especially with George), or concoct a lie which removes her agency (free will completely). It is literally the modus operandi of every false accuser - they feel a real harm or threat from a third party (ex. friend catches you cheating with a married man, so will think you are a home wrecker), so they make up a story to remove their agency (ex. that actually it was not consensual, but rape).

[@AlbinatorYT]

Twitter people are so chronically online its insane. The 2nd a women cries they immediately believe her instead of looking deeply into both accusations. She clearly lied about something this big..

[@hoxyheart5479]

I feel so sorry for the guy. He didn't deserve this much bullshit and now his life is pretty much ruined because she said so.

[@Tobias-t3k]

At least she is hot and he could spend some hours with her kissing

[@keith9129]

If you’re falsely accused of something like this, don’t combat it online. Do like Angry Joe did and gear up for court. No back and forth.

[@gothicMCRgirl]

That’s honestly the only sensible thing people can do. Just get a lawyer. A lot of these people usually back off real quick when real life consequences start stacking up and they have to deal with actual police and court.

[@ItsPungpond98]

That is if you're confident that you're in the right. I mean, if you ain't got nothing to hide, why fear?

[@thememester23]

@@gothicMCRgirl exactly they're so stupid not getting law enforcement involved

[@corruptedpico637]

Fr if a female EVER DARE to accuse me then best believe court fina come

[@keith9129]

@@corruptedpico637 and the wench is gonna front the bill too, brother

[@ameliajade7942]

As a victim, a waist touch is not assault. IMO she's being dramatic at the end there and she sounds desperate to get people to side with her after realizing her claims are falling through.

[@emmah959]

Fr it like her life was “ruined”?? Girl a man touched you, so many have gone through so much worse.

[@raebugarin314]

Honestly agreed

[@aaa-hs3it]

Not sure how it's sexual if you're not touching the genitals

[@Kai_bits]

I mean if it crossed her boundaries and she expressed that through verbal or physical communication it she can argue it as assault 🤷‍♀️

[@b3rlinki]

LITERALYL she was crying sobbing unable to finish almost a single sentence before when just talking about how george allegedly touched her waist but was smiling while delivering the news that apparently he touched higher??

[@oDaw04]

I don't know if Internet Anarchist personally edits his videos but these edits are amazing

[@JC05]

It's the fact George, dream and sapnap suddenly switched like this was a serious situation when it was nothing less than them cuddling when they were drunk seriously shows how easy the internet gets to them to make them feel guilty.

[@perryrush6563]

A key word - THEY. Strange how when two people are drunk, one is held accountable. Sigh.

[@kajuskup375]

And that’s supposed to be his friends lmaoooo what a bunch of weirdos trying to please twitter and switching on each other

[@JC05]

@@perryrush6563 exactly my point, how was that entirely on George when both of them were cuddling and they were drunk? If people want to make the claim that caiti couldn't consent because she was drunk, then what was George in the situation?? I seriously can't see how anyone would label this as sexual assault

[@tBeNz0]

I am just guessing here, but I'd imagine they all talked about it, and came to the conclusion that the best way forward for their brands, was to apologize and side with the "victim", bc regardless of what evidence you have to exonerate yourself, there will still be a huge portion of their audience who will support her. Plus, if you're a kind person, you don't feel okay with someone who is "hurt" bc of you, even if you KNOW you didn't do anything.

[@shravan012]

more like twitter stans

[@APatriotRevival]

Prime example of why you should _always_ plead your innocence until something proves you're guilty, especially when you know there's nothing that does so.

[@TheCobra114-o5e]

Never say apologize for something you didn’t do

[@APatriotRevival]

​@@TheCobra114-o5e Really, the full advice is -Don't talk about it until you have to -Don't admit or take guilt for something before there is proof of it -Don't get hung up on it regardless

[@shivanshbisht9439]

I mean the case is done and dusted he is guilty for the majority of the audience he should have simply not admit it like her story was clearly falling apart and his friends were like we have to look for our own public image​@@APatriotRevival

[@APatriotRevival]

@@shivanshbisht9439 Yes, that is precisely my point. I'm saying if someone else finds themselves in such a situation, don't admit fault. Best thing to do is get a lawyer if you think they might actually have something. Even if they don't, you could then sue them defamation.

[@shivanshbisht9439]

@@APatriotRevival yeah I definitely agree with you but I just think that the dream smp was kinda cursed you know last year karl, then dream himself and now George

[@Juju2927]

And you know what's the worst about George's situation (aside from real victims of SA not being taken seriously because of cases like her of course) ? No matter if it was proven wrong or not, there will still be people who will remember him as "that guy who was accused of SA". There's so many stories of men being falsly accused of a crime, and even after it was proven IN COURT that they did nothing wrong, can't find a decent job because rumors on them sticks.

[@lugismansion2400]

a certain Captain comes to mind with me

[@housewilma4904]

heck you want a perfect example? the creator of rick and morty who provded his innocence IN COURT. yet still 99 percent of people talk about him as you describe "oh hes still guilty just not legally guilty" making him loose his own studio his own game and his own show alongside never getting work again ever.

[@ma.2089]

@@housewilma4904 that so? I heard the case was thrown out of court and handled privately outside of it.

[@ma.2089]

@@housewilma4904 if anything, I think ppl are jumping to conclusions cuz he’s friends w/ Dan Harmon. Who actually was a creep who got kicked off his own show for being one. Funny how ppl forgave that AH, but not Roiland.

[@B1inded]

@@housewilma4904 not guilty in court doesn't mean not guilty for example OJ

[@mskitsakitsa]

How is she going to say "I was freshly 18." Yet she was wearing a 21+ wristband? Like? It makes no sense? It's not George's fault that she didn't communicate properly instead of joining in on the trend for "cancelling mc youtubers" ☠️☠️