Adjusted for inflation, Godzilla 2014 earned $702,041,831. Does this mean we need to return to a darker tone? - Alastair
@kingshadow87825 ай бұрын
Sup.
@kingshadow87825 ай бұрын
Happy Sunday everyone!
@strikerfc-gv7pc5 ай бұрын
Yes
@Bucksturdie5 ай бұрын
Frankly anything would be better than GxK. As much as I wanted to like it, (and I really did want to. I enjoyed GvK) it turned out to be the most contrived, rushed nonsense which had as much substance and made as much sense as a unicorn farting out a bubblegum rainbow. A complete non entity of a bad guy with zero development or threat, taken care of in a brief handbags at dawn showdown. Kong is severely injured? Let me whip out this magic glove I just happen to have conveniently stashed in my back pocket and fix him up in 20 seconds flat. Big G needs an upgrade? Go sushi up another titan, magically cover himself in 500ft of ice, evolve into new ultra form and break free in, what, 20 minutes? Rushed, badly written, horribly edited nonsense. I'm all for turning the braincells off and enjoying some monster rampage, but that was just awful.
@The_Cholosseum5 ай бұрын
@@Bucksturdie it was Godzilla movie at peak....pure monster fighting Vintage godzilla like movie. No plot or anything needed, just fighting. Now in a godzilla solo movie, sure we can get more story... but when godzilla is sharing the screen, it needs yo be just fighting. That's how most godzilla movies are
@jcwin2285 ай бұрын
It seems to me the Monsterverse has 2 big problems. 1) It has a case of Dragonball-itis. Godzilla has to keep powering up to match each leveled-up threat. It's getting old. 2) The Hollow Earth, while an interesting concept, has taken over the Monsterverse. Every new monster has to come from there, or we have to go back there to get the next Mcguffin. So, in every movie, we have to go back to hollow earth. It's limiting the storytelling. It's the same problem with Marvel and the Multi-verse. Once you open that Pandora's box, you can't close it again. Once you've introduced a hollow earth or multi-verse, you can't ignore it anymore. Just my take
@DangerVille5 ай бұрын
Agreed, I like the hollow earth, but they should be inventive instead of using it as a scapegoat. It feels like the MV was more inventive when the HE was just a way for them to travel round. Hopefully the next villain isn’t just another ancient alpha titan.
@Martan20105 ай бұрын
i feel like we need a movie that takes place before GvK but after 2014 more grounded stuff, darker tone and more mysteries (no i do not know if its better before or after KotM)
@dylanmagoiofthethalasso40325 ай бұрын
I agree
@ManSpider925 ай бұрын
He needs to be given an opponent that feeds off of radiation. One that is empowered by his atomic breath. Forcing Godzilla to actually fight for his life to survive. Even side effects of reverting him back to an altered state where he looks like his original design. Godzilla feels too overpowered each time where threats feel like an afterthought. He needs a reset.
@dylanmagoiofthethalasso40325 ай бұрын
@@ManSpider92 Ooooh that sounds like a good idea!!!
@dragonsmyth5 ай бұрын
I just want to see Godzilla in the spot light again, that is to say: put Godzilla ahead of Kong in priorities.
@Chaos_1525 ай бұрын
More G-man screentime = More Power. Also we need to go to the past, talking about Godzilla's origins and have similar atmosphere to Godzilla 1 and Godzilla KoTM
@elisagarcia55315 ай бұрын
Why Godzilla 1?minus one?
@SpideyGladius5 ай бұрын
Yes. We need more godzilla 1 themed movie but with 90x more Godzilla screentime
@Chaos_1525 ай бұрын
@@elisagarcia5531the first Monsterverse Godzilla film.
@azagorod84795 ай бұрын
@@elisagarcia5531I think he meant the 2014.
@thegaminggiga7655 ай бұрын
I whole heartedly agree my brother
@TheKaijuKing545 ай бұрын
I'm glad that you’re talking about worldbuilding. I believe worldbuilding is an important aspect of a cinematic universe, and it's unfortunate that the MonsterVerse hasn't focused on it. For instance, their advanced technology raises questions. How was this technology acquired? Is it available to the entire world, or is it restricted to Monarch? Other aspects to consider are how the world is coping with the presence of monsters, but you get the idea.
@DangerVille5 ай бұрын
Watch them explain that aliens have been providing the technology!
@Flash-FireCC5 ай бұрын
Right?! I really hope we stop at the development of technology for a while.
@eugenejamesbon57915 ай бұрын
Yeah
@shodaigoji54-c1p5 ай бұрын
According to the Monarch series, it is explained that they were already working on very advanced technology before day G occurred, that is, they were already working on that I answered it in the series
@khandimahn96875 ай бұрын
@@DangerVille That would be in line with some of the Showa Era movies.
@z0pplind0pplin785 ай бұрын
King of the monsters is one of my favorite movies ever. It’s dark tones. With its slight lighthearted moments made for a great film
@Martan20105 ай бұрын
yea it is just perefectly balanced even the amount of time kaijus and humans are shown
@SMM55 ай бұрын
Yeah, that movie was the MonsterVerse at its peak, at least from a tonal standpoint
@matt-tf2ob5 ай бұрын
King of the Monsters is trash when it should have been more colorful similar to GXK and just focus on Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan and King Ghidorah.
@eugenejamesbon57915 ай бұрын
Yeah
@saintpepsi48845 ай бұрын
@@matt-tf2obthe only trash Opinion here is you. Get a life.
@UltramanBlack5 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say it’s a bad change I love the different monster verse tones we have our 2 origin stories, a toho monster throwback movie, a wonderful versus movie and a documentary of Kong becoming King. The next movie just needs to be more serious but keeeppp the amount of monsters, I love the monster focus
@michaelmahabir2135 ай бұрын
I want Godzilla to have more screen time and see him interact more with other kaiju like Kong, Mothra, and Rodan.
@SMAS_YT5 ай бұрын
I just want Rodan in general
@Thecoolestnumberone5 ай бұрын
We haven't seen Rodan at all.
@theatlantean80365 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the next gxk is going to be godzilla focused like how new empire was kong focused
@solidSnake45805 ай бұрын
Or just make a good movie, that sounds like a better idea to me.
@eugenejamesbon57915 ай бұрын
Yeah
@dinobro52425 ай бұрын
I feel like King of the Monsters still has the best balance of realism and fantasy, that perfect middle ground where action felt weighty while still having some fun with the more mystical aspects of the universe. I’d just like to see them return to that style of film. Also yes, give us some lore that normal people don’t need to enjoy the film but we, as fans, can obsess over
@matt-tf2ob4 ай бұрын
Don't cry when it becomes a flop like trash dogshit KOTM.
@Flash-FireCC5 ай бұрын
Another issue is that we're STILL continuing with the non solo film approach. At this time we got plenty of Godzilla and Kong sharing the screen and it's gonna be almost a decade of this once GxK 3 comes out. We need to go back to solo films!
@curlyq13055 ай бұрын
I would love to see more of Godzilla since Kong’s story has ended. He has found his own kind while Godzilla has not. Is he the last of his kind and what happened to them? I feel like that needs to explore more.
@matt-tf2ob4 ай бұрын
Wrong stupid Kong's story is not ended for we could see more of Kong's story with Suko and the Ape Tribe in Future movies/Kong Solo movies.
@greencheetah1045 ай бұрын
Honestly, I missed those Godzilla scenes where he lets out a big, loooong, dramatic roar. I get that the recent movies have been kong centered. But I still want to hear his iconic roar. And Godzilla has been my favorite of the duo, and while I personally thought gxk was amazing, I really hope the next movie does the g-man justice.
@raymondjohnson35025 ай бұрын
Kaiju fans STAND UP!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@cheesedino56805 ай бұрын
But I'm on the toilet-
@lukeoreilly14285 ай бұрын
🧍♀️ 🧍♂️
@GaelMiraflor5 ай бұрын
Stands up.
@raymondjohnson35025 ай бұрын
@@cheesedino5680 Doesn't matter
@coletrain5835 ай бұрын
All here!
@justindaniel63705 ай бұрын
One thing I'm concerned don't let it be 2014/2019 meaning cutting the fights with the monsters to humans
@FatherEnriccoPucci5 ай бұрын
Right??? That’s the lamest shit ever imo
@matt-tf2ob5 ай бұрын
How about make it colorful to actually see the Better Monster Fights.
@Flash-FireCC5 ай бұрын
That's one thing New Empire and GvK did well at
@eugenejamesbon57915 ай бұрын
Yeah
@Ghost_Studios935 ай бұрын
I think a mix betwen GxK's and KOTM's tones would be perfect for the MV, still keeping the crazy action scenes, but also having time to develop the lore of the universe, dive deeper into these characters, like they did in KOTM with Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan and King Ghidorah.
@zeno_xy96695 ай бұрын
Fr, grab the action from GxK and the storytelling from kotm, even tho I think GxK had a good story. Kotm just has the best for me
@eugenejamesbon57915 ай бұрын
Yeah
@che86265 ай бұрын
@@zeno_xy9669GxK had a good story? Lol
@zeno_xy96695 ай бұрын
@@che8626 It did
@che86265 ай бұрын
@@zeno_xy9669 youre one of the few lop
@Jose_Lopez085 ай бұрын
I want the next film to be more of 2014 crossed with kotm with a more grounded with the feel of knowing that these titans are causing damage around the world with the consequences of the destruction and how the humans are struggling to live in the world of these God like monsters.
@matt-tf2ob5 ай бұрын
Nobody wants that trash for a dark and gritty Godzilla movie would be cool but they could also embrace the Better Showa/Heisei tone with colorful fight scenes and show more Mythology enough with the grounded trash when no such thing when it comes to Giant Monsters, Aliens and Robots.
@shodaigoji54-c1p5 ай бұрын
@@matt-tf2ob FRIEND, if you continue like this, they will abuse you. Please do not continue responding in this manner. I am telling you this for your own good, because then those who have a superior mentality will settle more than the others. So be careful.
@matt-tf2ob5 ай бұрын
@@shodaigoji54-c1p Shut up already I only talk to true Godzilla Fans not garbage loser haters who complain about everything Great about the Monsterverse and disrespect Better Classic Showa Era.
@koolkidz62635 ай бұрын
@@matt-tf2ob dude what's your deal, if people want that type of tone don't go trashing them like a little baby
@matt-tf2ob5 ай бұрын
@@koolkidz6263 That type of type gets boring if done over and over again that is why the Godzilla Franchise is so Great cause it could have many different tones even Toho loves the Showa tone.
@T-Hazza5 ай бұрын
I wish they will lay off kong for a while, a pure Godzilla movie plz
@YllibD4 ай бұрын
Agreed way too much monkey nonsense
@Heisenburger975 ай бұрын
I think it'll get worse if they make another godzilla and kong crossover. They need to make another single protagonist movie
@matt-tf2ob5 ай бұрын
Get a life stupid they could do everything in the Monsterverse and True Fans love a Godzilla and Kong crossover movie.
@Flash-FireCC5 ай бұрын
This is what I'm saying
@matt-tf2ob5 ай бұрын
Shut up stupid True Fans love a Godzilla and Kong crossover movie and in the Future they could do Multiple Godzilla and Kong solo movies but also other Movies and Live-Action/Animated TV Series for the Monsterverse so embrace all tones.
@moxar22205 ай бұрын
I believe the same.
@RatAssassin2525 ай бұрын
Exactly g man needs another one of those again No offense but kong needs a break
@FPaul7025 ай бұрын
Ok, first off, like 99% of us have been Godzilla and King Kong fans since we were kids. This whole Monsterverse thing has been a fun ride. I don't need the people lore in this as much. Let Toho keep rockin' that aspect. My favorite entry in the Monsterverse was KOTM. I really have enjoyed all them though. 2014 was good, but if you use fast forward to all the good parts, the movie is only 20 minutes long. But I get it. In these times of social media, not everyone is gonna be happy. Oh well, is what I say. IMO, the Iwi (skull island or hollow earth) are a billion times better than the Xillians ever were. There is no fix to what really isn't broken. Honestly, can't we just all say... "This is a great time to be a giant monster fan." Because I'm just sitting back enjoying this roller coaster of great movies.
@calebprescott4405 ай бұрын
We need more Toho kaijus in Godzilla x Kong 3
@stealthpanda1265 ай бұрын
KOTM is my favorite, mostly because of the way it treats the monsters as massive, mythical entities. Practically gods. Like the Mothra emergence scene or godzilla pulling up on Castle Bravo.
@garrettsmith61025 ай бұрын
I just hope that a "darker" film doesn't mean that we can barely see the monsters, but a darker tone could be cool nonetheless.
@diabolicvulture24805 ай бұрын
I think they need to take a page from Primal's book imo
@joshbates62745 ай бұрын
I feel like people are nitpicking with their issues with latest monsterverse movies. They were more focused on the MONSTERS story, not the humans story, hence less focus on how annoyed/upset etc the humans are and it was nice to get a feel for what the monsters are going through, they are the main characters after all. The world building is pretty much done besides twists to shake things up, which is what every movie has to and has been doing. Going back to human effects too much will be a huge negative in my opinion. It will be HARD to find the perfect middle ground, but we don't want super focus on humans and only 5 minutes of monsters in a 90-120 minute movie.
@Nael.2 ай бұрын
We need: Godzilla to become the main star again. Kong retire. Godzilla become blue again. Madison Russell return and have a connection to Godzilla similar to Jia and Kong. more Toho kaiju. Kotm tones.
@superzilla7845 ай бұрын
I would love to see it go back to the darker theme of the 2012 trailer. the humor has been nice but I want to see dark and grim again.
@strikerfc-gv7pc5 ай бұрын
Fr
@LYCAN-MASTER5 ай бұрын
I hope the Monsterverse returns to the darker more serious tone. Don't get me wrong I have loved all the Monsterverse movies but a darker more serious Monsterverse is what we need. I love lore so bringing in my lore is needed as well. Also I'd like to see more of a mystical mysterious Monsterverse ,to keep us guessing. I am a live long Godzilla fan and I will always be a Monsterverse fan.
@jeevan86145 ай бұрын
I feel unlike Minus n Shin, Monsterverse movies aren't about humans. The Monsters are the protagonists. Adam did a great job emotionally connecting audience with Kong in his previous films. I want more of it. The world building stuff is a nice touch too but I don't want them to carried away with it too much. I want the Kaiju's to be the focus.
@Dirteater1235 ай бұрын
To correct you , Monsterverse IS about humans because we are there to UNCOVER their secrets and nature so we need the humans + the Monsterverse feels more real with the humans , Adam did something that ruined everything that 2014, KSI and KOTM accomplished by just going for the action , titanonly and fights.
@jeevan86145 ай бұрын
@@Dirteater123 Humans r just subplots. Even in the most darker MV film, we don't see how many got destroyed in the battle. All we do is celebrate Hero Godzilla when at the end he wakesup, does a final roar and swims into the ocean just like how Spidey does final swing or Batman drives off in the climax. Monsters are always been the protagonists. I'm not saying we don't need humans. Their perspective is important too but the main focus is always should be the Kaijus. For more humans we got MV TV shows.
@nothingatall1624 күн бұрын
Shin and minus one is trash
@jaysonjones2375 ай бұрын
I made this suggestion in the previous video, but if Legendary is unable to tell the past stories of Godzilla and the other Titans due to budgetary concerns, they can tell them through either a comic miniseries (like "Skull Island: Birth of Kong") or release a Monsterverse Encyclopedia (in the vain of "The World of Kong: A Natural History of Skull Island"). Seriously, it's not that hard to create a timeline of past events and make some adjustments if need be.
@_thekingofmonsters5 ай бұрын
Personally one of the things I hated about GxK was that most of the time the kaijus were in the hollow earth That place makes them look smaller than they are. Also I prefer a darker tone That's why I loved kotm
@groudonor12Ай бұрын
Right the movie with 90% of humans in it..
@xprodigyx90695 ай бұрын
First they wanted more monsters, and their mayhem and destruction, with less humans, but now they want back more humans 😂😂
@rhedosaurus22515 ай бұрын
I want Godzilla to have his own movie again without Kong. Or at least with Kong in a mere cameo.
@theatlantean80365 ай бұрын
Shouldn't have let kotm flop then. Kong makes more money so they're going to use him a lot more
@rhedosaurus22515 ай бұрын
@@theatlantean8036 That was Legendary's fault for placing it right after Avengers: Endgame when everybody spent their life savings on. Not to mention how it came out 5 years after the 2014 movie.
@matt-tf2ob5 ай бұрын
It will flop cause trash losers only care about stupid human characters why do you think GXK is better.
@mentaltelepathy245 ай бұрын
they need to do seperate movies now - like kong gets his own godzilla gets his own - and build up a good story. and in monarch explain the stuff that movies missed and the impact it has on the world and all.
@mentaltelepathy245 ай бұрын
@@theatlantean8036I enjoy that movie - but there was alot in it that could been better and all. first up the movie was so darkly filmed lol idk why they have to film movies and shows like that lol
@GojisNewsOfficial5 ай бұрын
Personally, I do not care if we get more serious films or more goofy, Shōwa-esque films. The thing I want to see Grant Sputore do is give us better humans. People keep complaining about the humans in the Monsterverse, and want more monsters. They don't actually want more monsters, they really just want better humans. The reason that Kong: Skull Island is my favorite Monsterverse film is because they have a good balance between good humans and good monsters. Godzilla 2014 has great humans, but not so great monster action (this is of course my opinion) and KOTM is the opposite. Not so great humans, and great monster action. (again, this is my opinion.) GvK and GxK kind of both have decent humans and pretty good monster action. Especially GxK. GxK is my second favorite MV film, but it still has problems. In conclusion, I don't really care about the tone. I just care about the quality rather than the quantity. O yeah, and we need more Godzilla focused movies again rather than Kong focused films.
@khandimahn96875 ай бұрын
Speaking only for myself... I definitely want more kaiju in a kaiju film. But I ALSO want better written humans. It's not either/or, I want both.
@INFERNO954 ай бұрын
People want more monsters not just godzilla and kong dammit.
@joshuafraser73105 ай бұрын
In my opinion, I think King of The Monsters, had the best blend in terms of mood and setting.
@GiganotosaurusGamingg4z23 күн бұрын
Agreed same with Godzilla 2014
@draparker57885 ай бұрын
so, you're saying; Legendary saw Toho's returns, with a lower budget, higher profiting leading to way better returns and said. "They seem to know what their doing... why don't we just do that?"
@WolfmanArt5 ай бұрын
I'd like to see it focus more on the Monsterverse lore, the consequences of each battle, and maybe show a bit of nuance to the characters. Even show more of Godzilla's past, how he became the last of his kind, and what the future might hold for him
@SDesWriter5 ай бұрын
How funny to see people clamoring for the more serious and grounded approach less than a year after I was getting shouted down on every KZbin channel talking about Godzilla by fans who said they didn’t care if it made no sense and was completely stupid, they wanted monsters punching each other and space Godzilla….🙄
@justmenoah17295 ай бұрын
True!! Funny how Gfans opinions flip flop.
@seangill25225 ай бұрын
I think the evidence does lean toward that. Each silly new movie makes more money, so while they might not all be Godzilla fans, the monsterverse is seeing that goofy = financial success. I do hope they return to a darker more realistic film, especially if they plan to bring in SpaceGodzilla or Destroyah.
@Flash-FireCC5 ай бұрын
Omg the Space Godzilla fans. I could not for the life of me get why they thought it made sense for him to exist and don't get me started on the Destroyah demanders.
@seangill25225 ай бұрын
@Flash-FireCC they are the 2 coolest Kaiju designs from Hesei era, which many people enjoy. What part is confusing.
@SDesWriter5 ай бұрын
@@seangill2522 Space Godzilla is just stupid. He doesn’t have any wings, yet he flies around like an elf. The crystals are just dumb. Destroyah is a different story, but even if they use him they’re gonna have to dial back a couple of his powers because they’re not gonna translate into anything but a goofy man in costume Toho flick. To be honest, the thing that would translate really well is the Griffin idea that they wanted to use for the American Godzilla sequel. Having an organism on an asteroid land on earth and sample the local wildlife only to create an abomination out of them is nowhere near as out there as Godzilla skin cells going through a black hole and turning into a flying elf.
@sebchambers71405 ай бұрын
Yes! Finally someone is talking about how monarch has taken such a back seat, it’s really disappointed me. I’d love to see more of the Argo, the ospreys and the outposts, but we don’t see any of this in the latest films.
@ThomasFisher-jr6bn5 ай бұрын
On top of me wanting the next movie to be darker and have it focus on Godzilla, I would also like to see Godzilla's evolved form be utilised better. I llike what Adam was going for with the Evolved design, especially with the elbow spikes and the thagomizer, but I feel he didn't do a good job at utilising them in Godzilla's fights. In the next movie, Godzilla could use his elbow spikes and thagomizers to slash his opponents or use them like mini dorsal plates which allow him to use charged hits.
@BoldFollower5 ай бұрын
I am one of the few who actually watch these for the dumb fun. I like the silliness. I can't take my young kids to too many movies, these are family friendly and fun imo
@StephenDaniel-p8l5 ай бұрын
I would also like to see a return to a darker movie theme. I don't mind some silliness once in awhile. But I definitely want more world building for the future of the franchise.
@MatthewBrodericksBeret5 ай бұрын
Less Kong screen time would help
@YllibD4 ай бұрын
Absolutely enough with the monkey
@Bloxfruitsistrashlmaocope5 ай бұрын
I honestly want both silly Kauju action and grounded lore focused films filled with mystery and intrigue.
@360degressboy5 ай бұрын
A new director is always welcome to the monsterverse❤
@treyrex59875 ай бұрын
I think it's definitely time we take a break from the more light-hearted tones of GvK and GxK (which is funny because GvK had a very little silly moments in it compared to it's successor but I digress). However, there is a downside to going back to the seriousness of the earlier Monsterverse films: tonal whiplash. If they don't play their cards right and go back into the serious tone very abruptly, then that's going to turn audiences away and the film won't be successful. Would it be like watching the movie Rampage then you turn around and start watching War for the Planet of the Apes right after. They have to gradually get people back into the grounded feel if they truly want to be serious again. You can't just throw it out there and expect people to be automatically on board with a serious film after the last one. Not that I don't have a hope for this new movie, just being cautiously optimistic.
@destoroyah95495 ай бұрын
Thank you! I feel like most people begging for the dark and realistic tone don't take that into consideration.
@treyrex59875 ай бұрын
@@destoroyah9549 Yeah, got to agree with that.
@alabamafreak5 ай бұрын
Not only that, but who's to say that it'd even be good? Just because something is darker/more serious doesn't mean that it will automatically be good, it could be a Monkey's Paw or "be careful what you wish for" situation. I'm not saying they can't do it, I'm just saying they probably can't necessarily go back to the grounded/gritty atmosphere of 2014 at this point like so many fans are clamouring for.
@treyrex59875 ай бұрын
@@alabamafreak Trust me, I love the apocalyptic, serious tone of G14 and even Kong: Skull Island but I have to agree with that as well! You can't have a franchise go back to being serious again, that's NOT what's going to make a film good. I've seen so many people talk about films like Venom or Five Nights at Freddy's, saying the films would be so much better if they were rated R. I'm sitting here thinking, "yeah, that's true but that isn't going to make the film better just because they show more gore." The writing, the pacing and the characters HAVE to be good first, otherwise the dark aspects of your film will be rendered mute.
@SMM55 ай бұрын
Given all these points, a King Ghidorah movie sounds like exactly what we’d need. It’d explore where Ghidorah came from, how it came to earth, and we’d see more of him and Godzilla’s rivalry. Not to mention the lore it could add You know how it’s theorized that Mars was once able to sustain life like earth, and we don’t really know why that’s not the case now? A lore piece I would add in the MonsterVerse is that Ghidorah was responsible for that, and that Mars is what Earth would’ve looked like if he succeeded in King of the Monsters We’d get the terror aspect back because, let’s be honest, there is NO way you can do a Ghidorah movie without him being portrayed as worthy of fear (especially with how much of a menace he was in the 2019 movie), there wouldn’t be a ton of humans (not that we’d need any; that whole interaction between Kong and Skar King alone proves they’re skilled enough to tell a story without them), and it’d expand a lot on the lore and add weight to King of the Monsters. It’s not a “necessary” movie, but I bet it’d be a really good one
@eldritchmorgasm40185 ай бұрын
Only 5 million??? That's... incredible!!! To be fair, there isn't any big action-stuff present, and no over the top expensive actors, or script-rewrites + reshoots, usualy lethal, quality-wise. But, that's still nearly nothing.
@ccarr12864 ай бұрын
This take is absolutely spot on! I'm fully behind Grant, and I hope he brings back that gritty edge and revives the lore with a Godzilla-focused film. 🔥🔥🔥
@stephanie_jjb5 ай бұрын
I will undoubtedly say and one thing I hope they do not change, the monster kills are absolutely fantastic. Each one of them is written and shot like an OG mortal Kombat fatality.
@strikerfc-gv7pc5 ай бұрын
That’s the problem the monsters have no sense of scale now
@stephanie_jjb5 ай бұрын
@@strikerfc-gv7pc I mean I disagree, the only one that really felt unrealistic was Kong's ice smash on the scar King and that was cool and dumb enough that I really don't care
@harjindersokhi98525 ай бұрын
Edwards and Doherty nailed it with their tone. I enjoyed Wingard’s contributions, but I think the Monsterverse should return to the stronger first movies.
@FatherEnriccoPucci5 ай бұрын
As long as there’s no cut aways to humans in the middle of fights or key monster scenes sure
@Wingedshadow965 ай бұрын
Long live the Monsterverse!
@stephanie_jjb5 ай бұрын
Personally I don't mind having dumb fun because toho is out there putting out more serious films to compensate. Though I do wish that the monsterverse was more comparable to the Heisai series than the showa series
@UnwantedGhost1-anz255 ай бұрын
Hope the next sequel becomes serious again. With Godzilla and Kong being portrayed realistic and the vibes overall.
@groudonor12Ай бұрын
READ THE FUCKING COMICS
@DAWG...GHOST...DUDE145 ай бұрын
Since wingard was planning on doing a more godzilla VS destroyah type movie I'm hoping we might get a movie that goes a bit more into godzillas life and maybe at the end of the movie get a sneak peak of destroyah or somethin like that anyways,
@Zilla19545 ай бұрын
I think that Godzilla x Kong answered the questions which Godzilla vs. Kong gave its audience about why Godzilla was so angry at Kong in particular, where Kong's species went and why they disappeared, and how Ghidorah got frozen in the ice, but I agree that, now that the Hollow Earth mystery has been fully explored, it is time to start setting up a new story arc to keep the MonsterVerse from becoming too stagnant. Basically, I feel that Godzilla vs. Kong and Godzilla x Kong was the Avengers of the Monsterverse and tied up all the loose ends up to this point, but now it's time to start setting up their "Infinity Saga."
@BeastFanatic1015 ай бұрын
I recently saw the next directors film I am mother . Thought it was ok , still gonna keep an open mind with Grant Sputore’s work .
@Mariah-vt1qk4 ай бұрын
Good day to be a kaiju fan
@jdogx2115 ай бұрын
GxK was a movie more about Kong finding his home and his people. They've already said the the next one will be more about Godzilla and some of HIS backstory. So, this would be a good time to take a recipe out of 2014 and sprinkle alittle 2019 do something grittier, with some lighter more morbid humor, maybe? 😊
@emyart235 ай бұрын
For a godzilla solo film, I think an interesting idea would be the Prey approach for the predator franchise: change the human era, like ancient japan or maybe even greece or mexican (very unlikely, the way I know hollywood) setting
@JoshuaBelanger-c2r5 ай бұрын
I enjoy both I like dumb, fun, and the mystery aspect so if they’re able to combine the two, I’ll be happy because seeing massive high Jews fighting each other is always a good time in my opinion of course
@78Mustang4 ай бұрын
massive high Jews fighting is tight!
@Rusty-vq6rv5 ай бұрын
Godzilla needs a stand alone movie.
@Either_05 ай бұрын
I just want good lore, great fights and a few emotional scenes oh and incredible dmg to the planet
@RandomKid3994 ай бұрын
1:54 “YAP ISLANDS”lol😂never seen that or heard of it😂but sounds funny😂also does this mean I’m not a real Godzilla fan now,because I didn’t know of it…😢
@MrWaSpY-Trn14 күн бұрын
You've got a lot to understand and learn about Godzilla, Kong & Gamera and the Kajiu Genre as a whole lad.
@Nick-4K5 ай бұрын
This series is scratching my Transformers Bayverse itch. I love how much more crazy they are now. Hope they don't change it.
@strikerfc-gv7pc5 ай бұрын
It would be best if they did
@matteomastrodomenico12315 ай бұрын
@@strikerfc-gv7pcFor what?
@slaydro335 ай бұрын
Imo I liked the past two movies very much! As a Kong fan, I loved that my dude was shown love on his own stories. But now that Kong has finally reached his goal of finding his family. I can say as a fan that I am also fulfilled on Kong’s story. So for me, to save the monsterverse. I think it’s time for the movie to go back to the separate paths they were on in the beginning. Godzilla having his own movies and Kong having his own as well. I feel like having both is killing the hype for something really big that is to come. Kong imo won’t be needed for a while since he’s going to grow his family/army. But for Godzilla, possibilities are endless. Idk that’s just my opinion tho
@z0pplind0pplin785 ай бұрын
Destroyah gotta make an appearance and cause some damage
@jannarose88905 ай бұрын
bro
@strikerfc-gv7pc5 ай бұрын
@Masterpeelseditz yes exactly, idk why people want him to show up in the next movie 😂
@poundsofslothcigars5 ай бұрын
Fix is a strong word when it's not a problem 👌
@Joe-yl4ud5 ай бұрын
I prefer to see this much more serious for a Godzilla film and bringing in destroyah would be to early for him to appear in the next film
@Ezilla825 ай бұрын
I'm thinking more of both dark and grim with a hint of silliness sprinkle in, but that's just me.
@Godzilla-tu2cd5 ай бұрын
Is the movie gonna be more serious in tone probably. More grounded I highly doubt it. Just because this director did a serious movie a few years ago doesn't mean that he's gonna continue doing the same thing. He might wanna switch things up and wanna make the movie he wants to make. All the previous directors been doing this since this series started. All I'm saying is Let's wait and see.
@Kai-cv9rs5 ай бұрын
We kinda need more of the consequences of the backlash of each titan event and to explore more of hollow earth. Mostly the next film needs to be Godzilla focused
@mackjeezy89295 ай бұрын
First people wanted less humans now y’all are asking for them to basically be the main plot point make up your mind pls guys. While I get what the video is saying about needing more exposition which I too feel it’s needed it’s just funny to see people mad at the very thing they caused. I remember a lot of people saying just make it basically monster WWE and forget the humans, we got just that and now look. 😂
@Internettractor5 ай бұрын
I want more stuff like King of The Monsters. The characters were alright and the monster fights looked great. The only thing it was missing was monster screen time.
@LectorTheKing125 ай бұрын
Darker tones but please just show the entire fights and the titans without cutting to human drama. That's the main reason GvK and GxK were so popular and
@adamwilder29435 ай бұрын
I think the next Monsterverse movie needs to be more grounded and less silly, and to show a greater depth of the Kaiju world and lore included
@groudonor12Ай бұрын
But that was GXK. What you're demanding was what GXK was providing even more so..
@adamwilder2943Ай бұрын
@groudonor12 You do provide a good point there
@TheGreatAbaddon5 ай бұрын
I don't understand why dangerville thinks the monsterverse is so bad. They released a video after minus 1 saying the monsterverse was in trouble, even though it was a huge success. And now this is there 2nd video saying it needs to be saved? Are we watching the same movies?
@DangerVille5 ай бұрын
Did you miss the entire opening of me saying we love these movies? You can still be critical of things you like.
@TheGreatAbaddon5 ай бұрын
@@DangerVille im not trying to say " you guys suck" or anything like that. But you're videos are critical, which is ok, even though it feels like it's too much. Why does the monsterverse need to be fixed?
@DangerVille5 ай бұрын
I explain that in terms of world building the MonsterVerse has fallen flat compared to previous entries, which most people can agree with.
@groudonor12Ай бұрын
@@DangerVilleI would disagree with that actually, I think the Monsterverse has reached heights where Toho has been too scared to cross. The Monsterverse has to pick up the slack that Toho had left...
@shiningfox63825 ай бұрын
Bro I just want single movies. These X movies are showing mostly only Kong
@miguelcruz40285 ай бұрын
Look I get your point, I like the last movie a lot because we got a lot of fights and more creative in my opinion. The problem that I have with what your saying is to provide a more focused on the human and how they feel of this monster destroying everything. I personally have never care for that type of things I want to know more about the titan and we're they came from what will happend to them. I don't care for people in this universe, and I think is kinda generic when people do that I want a film that is more creative show me the story of the titian true their eyes let them tell us what happend. Lest humans involved the better
@DominoDoginater5 ай бұрын
Well, they could start by making it a SOLO Godzilla film. I've had my fill of that bug ah Monke.
@CaptainKotetsu5 ай бұрын
You guys hit it right home in the last video; From Dark, gritty, and immersive to Looney Tunes meets WWE. The first few films were so revered and successful because they were special.
@matteomastrodomenico12315 ай бұрын
Yeah, but not because of the grounded tone
@kaijufan20015 ай бұрын
Personally I am happy with the Monsterverse's goofiness and fun, but I do not mind changes in aspects such as worldbuilding and better humans so long as it does not come at the Monsters expense and affects their time to shine. A major complaint many people had in the past was cutting away from the Titan action to go back to more humans, GxK and GvK delivered on the kaiju action we have been craving for a long time now, there was no constant cutting away from the Titan action. I think a perfect type of balance would be the world building from Kotm combined with the action that we got in GvK/GxK. Continue on world and lore building with better humans but do not make the titans feel like an afterthought or constantly cut away from their time to shine just to go back to more humans. That was a huge if not the biggest complaint back then was cutting titan time away to go back to the humans which frustrated people, instead give time for worldbuilding and lore building with the humans and then the time with the Titans, focus entirely on them and their action sequences so that way you find that balance, we get the world and lore building and we get that Titan action we pay to go see. Neither aspect will suffer and there won't be as much complaining about how there are either too many humans that it gets boring because the monsters feel like an afterthought or too many monsters, not enough human development. overall a mix between Kotm and GvK/GxK I think would be the best way to improve upon certain aspects in the Monsterverse. You get your world and lore building while giving the kaiju proper screentime and action. Pacific Rim I feel did it best when it came to such a balance, we got our human characters, the world building of how the world faced the kaiju threat, and when it came time for the monsters themselves, we got plenty of that kaiju action people paid to go see, they did not shy away from giving the monsters their time to shine and the humans did not suffer either.
@ronniepatterson28275 ай бұрын
Fix the Monsterverse? GxK was the highest grossing film of the franchise. Secoond in popularity only to Dune 2 for months on end. Legendary isnt gonna stray from what casual audiences want, in favor of lore or whatever, just to please a minority within the fan base. 👀
@DangerVille5 ай бұрын
Improving the lore and world building is the priority. They can keep making these fun GxK toned adventures, as long as the world building is better. Though 2014 still earned more than GxK adjusted for inflation (which is $702,041,831) so 2014 still appealed to a wider audience.
@ronniepatterson28275 ай бұрын
@@DangerVille I hear what you are saying, the fact is, with 2014 earning so much, keep in mind that that was the first Godzilla film since 1998 with curiosity putting folks in seats, not to mention Bryan Cranston at his peak popularity putting folks in seats. Godzilla is more popular than ever, thanks to Adam Wingard, not Garreth Edwards full stop. So do you guys remember it was just us hardcore fans into this stuff, with most folks laughing at us for loving Godzilla before Adam Wingard made Edwards look bad by comparion "Edwards words not mine btw". I personally LOVE Wingards Showa style has WalMart, & Target ordering Godzilla merch by the truckload weekly. How you guys arent seeing the progress unfold is beyond me. To each thier own, I guess? Be careful what you wish for Dangerville.
@stevenjump82345 ай бұрын
@@DangerVille It did not earn more. More money doesn't end up in Legendary's bank account, because you adjusted for inflation.
@stevenjump82345 ай бұрын
@@ronniepatterson2827 100% agree with you. Frankly I don't know why I bother watching their vids.
@ronniepatterson28275 ай бұрын
@@stevenjump8234 Yeah, that guy they had here yesterday is known for being hella toxic, yet because he agrees with thier opinion, he gets a boost from them. I never would have dreamed Dangerville was so petty tbh.
@LilDragonkaijufan5 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the next film!
@cretaceousthehunted96695 ай бұрын
Here’s what I want to see: 1. Godzilla 2014 model. It’s more grounded and has green and yellow colors (as shown in the G14 VFX breakdown and bonus features. Giving Godzilla a green color makes him more dinosaurian and reptilian. 2. More Godzilla screen time. The last two films were more Kong-centered while Godzilla was kind of shoved to the wayside. Don’t get me wrong, I like Kong, I just like Godzilla better and he’s the main character of the Monsterverse.
@chadael6225 ай бұрын
Hell naw dawg keep the design the same
@SMAS_YT5 ай бұрын
Rodan
@Havok915 ай бұрын
@Masterpeelseditz We already know that the Evolved design won't be around for long, but we could easily blend it with the 2014 designs, giving Godzilla a bit more weight back, while still being more toned than KOTM and GvK. The dorsals also could remain mostly the same, with them MAYBE becoming slightly more straight. Best of both of the best Legendary Goji designs.
@cantaro59585 ай бұрын
@@Havok91wont be around for long because it will change further.
@strikerfc-gv7pc5 ай бұрын
@@chadael622 god no 😭🙏
@RogerSanchez-f7x5 ай бұрын
“To be more silly” is in the eye of the beholder. I couldn’t care less for the human aspect of it
@godzillamovies34915 ай бұрын
Me when I'm in a lying outta my ass challenge and my opponent is this video
@strikerfc-gv7pc5 ай бұрын
Bruh tf do you mean?
@franklaferriere57544 ай бұрын
Godzilla. Dark, destructive, fighting other Kaiju. AS IT SHOULD BE.
@spiderzilla28325 ай бұрын
Why are they implying that the Monsterverse is broken?
@matteomastrodomenico12315 ай бұрын
Yeah, to be honest it doesn't really sound like more than nostalgia.
@spiderzilla28325 ай бұрын
@@matteomastrodomenico1231 I’m lost at what you just said
@matteomastrodomenico12315 ай бұрын
@@spiderzilla2832 I mean that people are only nostalgic for the first movie.
@niners14065 ай бұрын
This is why KOTM is the peak and my personal favorite of the monsterverse
@hatsam4685 ай бұрын
How to fix it: Less goofy plothole-filled writing, a better deign for Godzilla that isn't anorexic and sounds like he has a bad case of strep throat, no physics engine breaking, a bigger budget and a darker tone like 2014.
@matteomastrodomenico12315 ай бұрын
What plotholes?
@mentaltelepathy245 ай бұрын
and continue a story lol its really not that hard - i keep sayin monarch should be the show to explain everything between movies and the impact each film has had on the world - i always feel you can explain more do more in shows then movies
@matteomastrodomenico12315 ай бұрын
@@mentaltelepathy24 Continue what story though?
@groudonor12Ай бұрын
@@mentaltelepathy24everything's explained in the bloody comics READ THAT..
@Enderguyismyname5 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s possible for a Godzilla x Kong movie to be a little silly and a little dark and grounded and still be a good movie.
@davidtirado66245 ай бұрын
Alastair, that's pretty disingenuous. You praised Wingard and interviewed him talking about the excitement knowing what was in the film with the leaks. Sadly now..the silliness?, don't forget that the Showa era was super goofy but we "fans", still loved it. Just word it as your liking of the darker movies..looks like after the movie you now spit on his movies. All directors have different takes, and you forget how excited you were when he was the named..
@DangerVille5 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video? I literally say I love the movie, each for their own reason. This video is specifically about the lack of world building, and accountability for the lore. You can still be critical of movies you like. Bizarre how people have selective hearing.
@davidtirado66245 ай бұрын
@@DangerVille I did thus the critique, instead of mentioning selective hearing maybe acknowledging it seemed a bit hypocritica in my opinion, I'm still a fan of the channel so..no not trolling like you young folks say nowadays.
@ItsGman845 ай бұрын
Personally we could see a kotm like film or Maybe something like the heisei era were you can mix science fiction and dark tones. I kinda want a more heisei/early millennium era like film.
@gavinbunting73545 ай бұрын
The monsterverse is not meant to be dark, it’s a callback to the shows era, especially the newer movies, I think the movies are doing just fine. I don’t want an evil Godzilla, it’s different from minus one for a reason. Also, hollow earth is a great place made for this universe, as it is another locating for story building, city destruction gets boring eventually
@groudonor12Ай бұрын
Have you read the Monsterverse Comics, it's incredibly dark, way more than Minus One.
@groudonor12Ай бұрын
Also you mean the "Gojira's Temper Tantrum Movie" 😂😂
@nothingatall1624 күн бұрын
Dark tone sucks
@nicksanfilippo95135 ай бұрын
in do enjoy all the monsterverse films..... but i do really wish the stuck with the feel of the first Godzilla (2014), like they did with the Monarch show
@KadenSlinker5 ай бұрын
I don’t like how they are going to change it to where there was only ever one individual of Godzilla’s species and effectively retcon the existence of other members of Titanus Gojira like Dagon.
@psychoticgamer68555 ай бұрын
yup the leaks are getting out of hand, and honestly I HATE that toho made this decision. I liked how legendary showed gojira as a species since it gives more depth to the character and the fact that the great titan war solidified this I was happy. But now due to this decision in order to make godzilla "godly" will be a huge letdown and Kong would be also be downplayed AGAIN since he will be no "god". IMO godzilla as species felt facinating and real that how this creature came to be.smh
@the_only_lonely5 ай бұрын
Wait they‘re actually doing that? WTF is wrong with them?
@KadenSlinker5 ай бұрын
@@the_only_lonely It appears that way at least According to some of the most recent leaks, I’m hoping they are fake.
@the_only_lonely5 ай бұрын
@@KadenSlinker if that‘s true Ima pulls a Homelander flight 37 on Legendary Headquarters
@SDesWriter5 ай бұрын
No way they can attempt that. The entire point of the Muto species was that they evolved specifically to fight Godzillas and reproduce using them as incubators for their eggs.
@lukepoirier31283 ай бұрын
Definitely want to see a return to dark and menacing theme
@dylanmagoiofthethalasso40325 ай бұрын
I SO want the Monsterverse to be fixed. I miss the groundedness of it. Godzilla 2014 is PEAK MV, King of the Monsters was the last greatest movie in the franchise, then GvK, Skull Island then GxK. I saw GxK in theaters on opening weekend since it was a birthday gift from my Dad and we were both disappointed.
@groudonor12Ай бұрын
Guess you didn't read the comics then
@dylanmagoiofthethalasso4032Ай бұрын
@groudonor12 Correct I did not
@nothingatall1624 күн бұрын
Godzilla 2014 is trash
@Readspiraloyster5 ай бұрын
The potential of this upcoming film is pretty good and it's something that mechagodzilla should have been saved for (like his role in GVK was cool and all and it was a cool robot design but as a mechagodzilla he felt kind of short in my opinion in with a better design he could really shine in that is film and it's too bad they've already used him)