How GOOD was Lugia ACTUALLY? - History of Lugia in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 2-7)

Lugia is this week’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Lugia in competitive Pokemon!
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0:52 - GSC/Gen 2
2:11 - ADV/Gen 3
3:43 - DPP/Gen 4
5:47 - Gen 4 VGC
6:36 - BW/Gen 5
9:05 - XY/Gen 6
10:13 - SM/Gen 7
11:30 - Gen 7 VGC
11:48 - Outro
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[@kayeka4123]

Gotta admit, hearing Lugia laugh in the face of powercreep for 5 generations straight is immensely satisfying.

[@richardhauer8391]

Partly thanks to multiscale though, the powercreep was strong.

[@mr.cheese1865]

Wasn't laughing very much against mons like Zekrom and Kyurem White though

[@S3lvah]

True, but that's still just 3 (with Dusk Mane Necrozma) mons out of ~40

[@roninglastrier1996]

Lunala

[@MrZahsome]

@@mr.cheese1865 Still laughed but go ahead and have your time.

[@Gigas0101]

"A certain fiery ape" AWWW YEAH HOW GOOD WAS SIMISEAR!

[@dustin3294]

*What have you brought upon this cursed land*

[@Rainyday105]

Gigas0101 Nah darmanitan

[@ShyBoy6ty9]

No joke, I legit like the simis, at least their designs. I've always liked monkey or ape-like characters.

[@azelfdaboi5265]

It sucks Design, Battle, Everything

[@elvgamez3864]

Azelf Da Boi damn bro it do be like that

[@Psycho3418]

>Whirlwinds out Xerneas. Threat neutralised. >Mega Gengar dragged out. Welp.

[@jordanious7711]

thats fine isnt it? The only reason Xerneas is a threat is because of geomancy. The idea is you whirlwind out Xerneas, wasting her white herb and essentially removing her as a threat. Even if it is 1 for 1. Also, didn't he say in the vid that Mega-Gengar couldn't 1 hit Lugia? Lugia might still die but Gengar isnt exactly tanky, would still be an iffy matchup

[@Psycho3418]

@@jordanious7711 Not exactly. Of course we don't get to see the situation of the match but in ORAS ubers teams usually have more than one win-conditions. Xerneas without Geomancy is still not a deadweight and could even setup again if the opposing team lacks good answers to it. And dragging out Mega Gengar more or less guaranteed Lugia's demise since a weakened Lugia will be ohko'd by Shadow Ball. And in other situations Gengar can taunt Lugia and prevent it from doing anything it wants. And once rid of Lugia other mons like Arceus-Normal and Primal Groudon can go to town.

[@andypang1677]

Me: okay, xerneas ‘s power herb is dead, time to win! Games decision: I’ll send out mega gengar to troll him Me: AAAAAAAA

[@kwayke9]

F

[@ebering4.039]

Or psychic boost, if you have the pokemon xd one

[@KevinLopez-cz9xs]

Ferrothorn: u are weak *gen 5 gives Lugia multi scale* Lugia: no u

[@lifeof_bi9982]

Wtf why??? This pokemon is already broken.

[@jufref]

@@lifeof_bi9982 broken as fk

[@krausercruz2780]

Lugian: Pathetic upstarts

[@zekrom320]

Ferrothorn: Is this some kind of a *Multiscale* joke that I'm too *Toxic* to understand?

[@TheMacroShow]

How good was Pokémon the Movie 2000?

[@bo1lings0up]

Macro love the vids

[@noxythegreat]

Lugia for noobs

[@miguelcordeiro6457]

Ask slowking)) The world will turn to ash....

[@ethanawaao1291]

I’d rate it as 4.9/5

[@pokepress]

Still my favorite, game though a lot of that owes to the music.

[@openinginawe5518]

So am I one of several people who thought Lugia was water type?

[@JoJoDDJoJo_DnD]

As a kid I was sure it was

[@mrsuperheatran2794]

I had Pokemon Stadium 2, so it wasn't hard to know its typing.

[@liamcristello2591]

Given that it’s heavily associated with oceans, and you find it in the -Seafoam- Whirl Islands hiding behind a waterfall, I’d say you weren’t the only one who thought it would be a Water type. Although tbh water flying would have made a terrible wall

[@seraphoftheendyt1432]

No

[@dancingfuriously]

Thought the same too for waaaaay too long...

[@TheOnlyGBeast]

man I laughed so hard when Lugia phazed the Xerneas only to bring in mega genger LOOOOL

[@denguefevah2727]

Actually psychic lugia can 0HKO a mega gengar.

[@TheOnlyGBeast]

@@denguefevah2727 that's a really bad move to use on lugia my friend

[@KaizerHuter]

@@denguefevah2727 Did you type "Zero-Hit KO?"

[@TheOnlyGBeast]

@@KaizerHuter maybe it's because standard lugia in ubers actually don't OHKO mega gengar with psychic, only doing a max of 83.5%

[@jhilamhazra8097]

@@TheOnlyGBeast Then Lugia can use Psyshock or even Psycho-Boost.

[@gkoug876]

The reason for Lugia’s psychic typing comes in an interview where they stated: To start, the first type was decided to be Flying-type since Lugia have wings. At the time Psychic-type was the symbol of powerful Pokemon. As we wanted Lugia to give the impression of being a powerful Pokemon, we settled on Psychic-type for the second type, instead of Water-type. In short, the reason why Lugia is not a Water-type despite being underwater, is due to its Flying-type-like appearance, and Psychic-type being the symbol of a powerful Pokemon. Legendary duos represent opposite concepts, for example Groudon and Kyogre represent land and water, while Dialga and Palkia represent time and space. In the case of Ho-oh and Lugia, although they do not have a direct connection in the story, we imagine that they represent the sun and the moon, day and night, yin and yang (positive and negative), bottom of the sea and the sky, above and below. Ho-oh and Lugia were born in the world of Pokemon Gold and Silver, for the new feature, time system, gave us day and night cycle. Thus, they represent the sun and the moon, day and night.

[@oqo3310]

Laugh in Solgaleo and Lunala

[@jonathano503]

So I guess Solgaleo, Lunala, Zekrom, and Reshiram don't represent anything.

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

Solgaleo and Lunala: Who are you? Lugia and Ho-Oh: We are the sun and moon, but better. *Lunatone and Solrock cry in the corner*

[@AS-rb5jz]

I thought that it may have been done so neither ho-oh nor Lugia had a type advantage over the other

[@bunnycat24]

i think ho-oh and lugia represent something similar to groudon and kyogre, but instead of being sea and ground it's sea and sky. silver and gold if you will

[@xavierjohn425]

how GOOD are reuploads ACTUALLY

[@dustin202]

it was the worst pokemon in all generations

[@DarkPhenix3000]

I was about to say "Suggestions are not in the comments anymore"

[@Thebirdy123]

Yes

[@fledbeast5783]

Reupload?

[@LeeSmith-yf8bg]

@@fledbeast5783 mistaken typing for Gen 5, was psychic grass instead of flying

[@meeko3877]

When he said, “business as usual” about Luigia’s control over new monsters it was so genuine idk. Like this old, should be retired Pokémon is still handling all these fancy new threats, never fading out like others have. Like each generation Luigia watches a new Pokémon knock a good chunk off it’s health and it’s just like watching the world grow it’s no longer like a handful of Pokémon he takes on and even tho it gets harder and harder he isn’t ready to not be viable yet.

[@xxunoriginal_edgy_namexx859]

Even Mewtwo has dropped down significantly in Gen 8. But when Lugia comes back in the next dlc, he'll still be the great wall he is.

[@MrZahsome]

I'm more surprised how tanky it was even before multiscale. Psychic/Flying isn't the best defensive typing out there(it's okay of course) and yet Lugia lol'd at the big threats and lol'd even harder when it got multiscale. There's plenty of pokemon with great defensive stats that can't do their job simply because their typing sucks lol.

[@sephikong8323]

It's no longer really viable in Uber, but not because it's bad per se (with Boots it's actually better than ever) but because it gives free entry to the biggest offensive threat in the Metagame (Shadow Rider) and is both weak and outclassed by the number one pokemon in the tier : Yveltal. Lugia is weak to Astral Barrage wheread Yveltal is one of the few resists to it, and Yveltal is offensively potent as well whereas Lugia is more passive. Lugia would be definitely excellent if the metagame were different as it has a lot of amazing traits, but it simply matches up poorly against the top dogs of the metagame (similar to Zekrom in gen 6 and 7 in a sense)

[@amiablereaper]

The Pokemon equivalent of "nope, not getting out of this chair"

[@chonkystonks115]

"When life gives you Dusk-Manes, you gotta become outclassed..."

[@tommoore2012]

Lugia one day gets a mega. Mega Rayquaza: "Hello Uber. I'm back for more." Mega Lugia: "Sorry. You're walled off."

[@saiswanpyaenaing6080]

Imagine giving arceus a mega

[@HardGuess]

@@saiswanpyaenaing6080 more like a Primal Reversion

[@Ashfuejj]

i need the shadow lugia

[@lennartstockl5826]

@@saiswanpyaenaing6080 Imagine 120 base hp with 140 base every other stat. That would even be logical because every mega gets 100 additional stat total. And then Protean to still kinda have the normal concept.

[@Scorpy666]

@@saiswanpyaenaing6080 arceus is nab af

[@ZeroHero3d]

Pre-Gen 5 Pokemon: "Lugia is a formidable beast, but with enough force, even the mightest of walls will crumble!" Multiscale: "Allow me to introduce myself."

[@zekrom320]

White Kyurem & Zekrom: A Yin & A Yang here you go *BANG*

[@Lrizu]

@@zekrom320 Focus Sash (the idea is insane, but it's unarguably a counter to them)

[@itriggerpeople4433]

9:25 Oh god, I was glad I've never seen Mega Gengar's legs till now...

[@anniethomas239]

I was right! Mega Gengar does have legs!

[@andypang1677]

I TRIGGER PEOPLE what

[@thesuntitan]

Too bad I can't field him with Mega Swampert to make a "skipped leg day" themed team

[@shinekuelsword2412]

ISSOU LA CHANCLA EL BANADOR AYAAAAAA

[@williamminshall3314]

Bad touch

[@alexroth67]

Lugia is awesome. It has a cool design, great stats and movepool, and it even got its own side game to go along with its main one. It's definitely one of the best.

[@silverkyrie4714]

"A certain fiery ape" If he does Simisear to troll everyone

[@heliodgodofthesun3960]

AWWW YEAH MONKE TIME BOIS

[@yuvalwh]

BW2 is just a montage of lugia surviving everything with multiscale and I'm here for it

[@BurntCroissant25]

GUYS WE’RE GETTING SIMISEAR NEXT WEEK (obviously the fire monkey we asked for)

[@joshuaelliott4666]

are you sure it is not Darmanitan

[@magmamooblade]

@@joshuaelliott4666 Darmanitan is a rock. Easy mistake though./s

[@BurntCroissant25]

Joshua Elliott psssh NOBODY asked for darmanitan don’t be ridiculous

[@grammaticalrouge29]

Good thing I scroll'd through the comments, or would have make a fool of me by thinking it was Infernape. Thanks for the correction, good sir/ma'am.

[@tracythomas4700]

Flame orb Primeape obviously

[@SrTNick1]

Man I still really like how Lugia looks. One of my favorite pokemon, and I'm glad it does so well in competitive. I never play Ubers and only really play Smogon OU or lower, but it's nice to hear Lugia is so well known.

[@Warwing12]

Dang, I knew Lugia was bulky, but Multiscale just makes it ridiculous. Also, I know that you've tried to start getting people to stop spamming in the comments but maybe you should say that towards the beginning. I'm willing to bet a lot of people click off the video after the summary and miss anything in the end credits.

[@klitto9448]

the level 70 lugia i caught in heartgold could single handily defeat red

[@theprodigy1508]

Mine did :D

[@Yental]

My lugia in soul silver was the only thing carriying me trough the 6 level 100 cheated arceus of my friend back then

[@pacifierjunkee6016]

The level 45 Ho-oh I caught in HG tanked a slugebomb from his Venusaur.

[@thegreatpriest8784]

@@pacifierjunkee6016 i jerked off to that visual

[@xghunt3r551]

What a beast

[@weare4686]

How good were the fans at listening?

[@KahunaLagoona]

About as Good as Ledian is at competitive battling.

[@MandalorOrdo]

@anthony gomez Thats a trick question, right?

[@punishedwhirligig3353]

About as good as LowTierGarbage in street fighter

[@MrZahsome]

About as funny and original their jokes are.

[@BigLoloFrmDaO]

I like this one.

[@aldolopez4496]

It’s because of the grass mistake right

[@voltingmaster5458]

Bonnie 158 Correct, Whenever there’s an obvious mistake, I take the opportunity to point it out.

[@antoniojoaquinruizalfonso4232]

The video used Natural Cure and removed its "mistaken" status effect.

[@mrbilter83]

and natural cure instead of pressure in gen 3 footage

[@michah2098]

And the Natural cure for gen 4

[@ultimaLugia]

This is why lugia will always be my absolute favorite

[@Shinyhunterjareth]

Same here

[@Richykid811]

Why did i read the title as "How GOOD was Luigi ACTUALLY?"

[@PGATProductions]

lol wut

[@bowser3017]

Good by doing absolutely nothing

[@theharrerei5502]

i always thought of luigi when thinking of lugia

[@s12y6o24]

i had to re-read that ~3 or 4 times before i realized how it was different than the actual title >

[@justcallmeleonardo]

The best pokemon

[@Justin_Raccoon]

Lugia is my all time favorite Legendary, I'm so happy to hear he was great!

[@ssoltau9318]

Same here

[@GhulamMurtaza-qt8xj]

Same!

[@imtiazahmed5718]

Same

[@dj_koen1265]

He just has the coolest look

[@lightthegreninja2793]

Techically, Lugia is a she beacuse it's creator design it that way but yeah, she's a beatiful one.

[@xghunt3r551]

I’m glad Lugia is great because silver was my first Pokémon game and he means a lot

[@nicolasandreshak9045]

I don’t play Pokémon, but this series always provides something interesting as a turn-based strategy nerd

[@ralphmarges2965]

mega gengar traps lugia with shadow tag" lugia: whatever i can still destroy you with psychic but since your faster ill let you hit first mega gengar used destiny bond" M. gengar: if im going down YOUR COMING WITH ME! lugia cant switch out" lugia: so this is why your in ubers

[@alexandradordzhieva3835]

huh

[@jeremyfaure1888]

-Shoot your last pathetic Shadow Ball, Mega Gengar! -My moveset has no pathetic move, Lugia! It does however contain the unstoppable Destiny Bond!

[@necroface8126]

Jérémy Faure nice reference there

[@xxunoriginal_edgy_namexx859]

69 likes

[@ralphmarges2965]

@@xxunoriginal_edgy_namexx859 N O I C E

[@ZyrusSmith]

Why was the video made private ACTUALLY?

[@voltingmaster5458]

Zyrus Smith because there was an error with Lugia’s typing during the gen 5 section, in that it was a Grass/Psychic Type.

[@cooperm4185]

They accidentally said Lugia was Psychic/Grass in Gen 5

[@granito8436]

and i the gen 3 section lugias ability was natural cure.

[@blubbytheblobfish1582]

Wait its not a grass type?????

[@BigT.Larrity]

I fail to see how that is an error, lugia is just a deformed celebi

[@GatorOne-in7hk]

Lugia has been my favorite Legendary for so long, and I’m sure that will never change. I had thought Zamazenta would be be a threat, but Lugia still remains on top! He’s one of my signature Pokémon, alongside Feraligatr and Blastoise.

[@GatorOne-in7hk]

And yes, I hate fighting electric types as a result.

[@holymolyitsashinyeternatus]

Surprisingly, Zamazenta-C has only used offensive sets despite it's high physical bulk.

[@GatorOne-in7hk]

@@holymolyitsashinyeternatus Well it doesn’t have a very good defensive type. That somehow went to Zacian, who’s the more offensive one.

[@ciaranpatrick6859]

Gen 8, with heavy duty boots: *heavy breathing*

[@UmbreonMoonlight]

Omg nooop 🤣🤣🤣🤣😫😫

[@resurrekt7114]

did you mean *heavy duty breathing* sorry I had to

[@pezaroo1234]

I'm so happy Lugia has been amazing all throughout! A while back I finally finished my full odds soft reset on Pokémon silver for shiny lugia, and managed to transfer it over with a bold nature and multiscale! An absolute wall. I don't normally use legendaries as I feel they're unfair , but I love my Lugia so much 😁

[@FirstNameLastName-gq4tb]

So what he did was correct the psychic grass type for Lugia in Gen 5

[@Kaito-cm3cm]

I forgot if it was in the Gen 3 or 4 section, but it seems like he also corrected Lugia's ability being Natural Cure

[@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni]

Lugia, just might be, the BEST defensive pokemon EVER. Hands down. Btw, no lugia's song, u deserve scorn FSG!

[@fulgenzio89]

Suika Ibuki I think Giratina is actually a bit more bulkier statwise

[@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni]

Yeah but doesnt have recovery.

[@crazycoolkids00]

Lugia's song is amazing.

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

@@crazycoolkids00 Giratina also doesn't have multiscale to cut any damage it takes in half while at full HP.

[@escribanianotaria8418]

Nah, support Arceus and Zyg-C are better

[@darkdjinniumbrage7798]

I'm glad Lugia was so well liked. It's one of my favorite legendaries

[@joellee2748]

I never thought of using Lugia either competitively or in any playthrough of a Pokemon game. Now seeing how strong and bulky it is in almost every generation it was featured in, I might need to use one one day tbh. Thanks for the insight False Swipe Gaming! :)

[@punishedwhirligig3353]

HOW GOOD WAS POWER CREEP ACTUALLY bad, seriously why isnt Kartana banned

[@alexroth67]

Powercreep was fuckin bad.

[@Luisar-ox3nb]

Kartana is definitively not the best pokemon in OU, far from it (-A tier iirc), the big guys of OU are landorus T, heatran and greninja ash.

[@peanutbutterpikachu]

Whirligig it's pretty easy to find anything faster than Kartana and hit it on the special side with anything. It's pretty much everything a piece of paper is. It it hurts, it FUCKING HURTS, but it's weak otherwise.

[@vegetavsluigi]

Vacuum Wave exists for a reason.

[@punishedwhirligig3353]

Luisar 2002 those stats....... Honestly id be in favor of a pokemon reboot after gen 4 remakes because power creep just keeps getting worse and worse I mean for fucks sake regular scizor is UU now and Azumarrill is UUBL Also why did GameFreak nerf Gengar WHY

[@tikoumi8859]

This video was so epic :D Every time I thought Lugia would go down, it hung on!!! Love this one so much

[@TheTaintedWisdom]

0:15 - Mention's Lugia's starring role in Pokemon the Movie 2000 and being on the box art for Pokemon Silver Version. Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness: "Am I a joke to you?!?"

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

*SoulSilver crying in the corner*

[@ColmanLegrand]

b-b-b-but you said Infernaype would be made in January

[@williamhowe1]

January isn't over yet.

[@ethanawaao1291]

I hear a furry

[@metagross9092]

@@williamhowe1 this is the last Sunday of January so unless there's a surprise video at the end of the month Infernape will have to wait

[@mr.krustykrust]

Ensign Shepard so basically you’re telling someone to kill themselves because they enjoy something. What has this world come to?

[@buckbuckleyson2259]

Key word: made

[@diode_wow]

How GOOD are people at FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS actually? None at all. People are still suggesting Pokemon in the comment section.

[@ramsagarmenon7516]

Well, on one patron pick, both the comment section and patrons voted for the same thing so maybe it will happen again?

[@dannylopez5976]

Honestly I've seen more people complaining about people making requests then actual requests.

[@ShinyKelp]

@@dannylopez5976 Because people making suggestions are not getting upvoted anymore, so you see none of them in the top comments. Have a glance at the latest comments and tell me.

[@acemerceramv8561]

10:58 *S E A R I N G S U N R A Z E S M A S H*

[@zdude0127]

Yay! Birthday present!!!! Keep up the awesome work FSG!!!!

[@Swedishmarvelking]

Huzzah! My favourite legendary gets its vid! Great rundown as usual.

[@AsianWithHat]

*How GOOD was [Insert Patreon vote] ACTUALLY?* *I WILL NEVER GIVE UP*

[@nathanielb1499]

@Annadog40

[@BupPotato]

Wow

[@beydey2647]

How GOOD was Psychic/Grass Lugia ACTUALLY?

[@michaelbesser5348]

Something tells me he was looking at Celebi when he was making that video...

[@evergladegallade]

Awesome video!

[@DOYOUNOTHEWAY]

Its so sad that after so many years of being a consistantly excellent defensive cornerstone of the metagame its no longer good in gen 8 metagame as the the top pokemon of the metagame all hit lugia supereffective and being outclassed by lunala as a defensive pokemon as it can do everything that lugia does and also has some offensive presence. HOPE IT GETS BETTER

[@AverageHandle_]

Lugia is way too reliant on Multiscale right now too, at least he’s been good for about 20 years before this

[@bruh_bruh_the_bruhest_bruh]

It won't

[@N12015]

Tbf it was already suffering in gen 7 due to Necrozma-DM and Ho-oH outclassing it outside stall.

[@IndiraDevi-yq6vm]

@@N12015and lunala existing aswell.

[@PeterGriffin11]

Lugia is one of the best legendary Pokémon.

[@patb8617]

I love false swipe gaming

[@ilikeutubeful]

Awesome, Jirachi and FSG have finally granted my wish, and now there's finally a video on how good Lugia was in competitive play! Lugia is my favorite Pokémon, and upon seeing how good it has really been, I now love it even more! My life is now complete, Lugia forever! :)

[@TheCrankyTechnician]

What a tank! Lugia's been a regular member of my teams for 23 years now and that's not gonna change any time soon! ❤

[@aliqasim3750]

lugia is just an amazing Pokémon and my most memorable Pokémon in the uber tier

[@maibignutt6434]

one of my favorite pokemon as a kid. i remember watching the movie and playing gale of darkness and pokemon silver. those were the days...

[@Rhino8315]

Honestly this is my favorite part of my week

[@steve210]

the fact that its even possible to survive a +6 super effective move for any mon is insane to me

[@thebhoy2000]

I thought Lugia was Psychic and Grass in Gen 5?

[@tmarino721]

TheBhoy No. Psychic Flying always

[@voltingmaster5458]

Tommy Marino He was joking pleb.

[@tmarino721]

Oh. It’s hard to detect jokes and sarcasm on the internet

[@ncredible_wins5329]

I found a mobile reddit user

[@andreivaldez2929]

@@tmarino721 The original upload had a mistake that said Lugia was Grass/ Psychic in Gen 5, as well as having Natural Cure in Gen 4.

[@Dz73zxxx]

After seeing this video and compare it to the previous mighty aggron video, now i know the importance of HP stats, and recovery moves Great video as always Anyway, can someone give me opinion/calcs/example which is better, to have high HP with mediocre defence stats or the opposite stats for walling?

[@bobsmith8405]

Nice! One that overall stayed good over time

[@DidgeAvi]

Lugia has everything going for it as a Pokemon honestly. Cool design, good typing, iconic scenes in the anime and AMAZING IN COMPETITIVE. Love this guy. Looking forward to more things from you guys at FSG

[@Mudkip971]

I'm just wondering if Psycho Boost Lugia was ever used? The Lugia that can be caught in Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness.

[@snekladyrobin]

Probably not...

[@Wildstar5267]

I use mine in sumo with z psycho boost and calm mind. Not terrible.

[@kazoorion7993]

Someone actually used one in a Double Battle video of Gen 7 and won.

[@Mudkip971]

@@kazoorion7993 Sulfurian5267 What moveset did it use?

[@kazoorion7993]

I can't exactly remember it because I haven't see the video since forever but I can show you a link.

[@100Parey]

Muh boi Lugia

[@redtornado5239]

Awesome sauce 👌

[@MrIcenice44]

100,000 views in a day? Congrats on the progress, man!

[@CustodialDaniel]

This video made me so happy. For years I’ve touted how absurd this pokemon is. The first few times I played Ubers I instantly slapped on a bulky Lugia, and against my equally novice opponents, it proved to be an immovable object through and through. I’m glad there are at least a couple of pokemon who can hard counter it now, but Lugia will always be the omnipresent ruler of Ubers in my eyes.

[@oles9196]

I love Pkm that are defensive and fast. its just a very good niche cauz you dont have to be afraid to use moves like recover to late. You can just use the Status moves you want to and dont have to risk that your Pkm gets killed before you do. I wish there were more fast and defensive Pkm.

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

Latias also has stats like that, too. And when Deoxys Defense Forme dropped to OU last generation, it was also considered to be fast for a wall. But yeah, for the most part, Pokemon with that kind of stat spread are pretty rare, to put it mildly.

[@shiennohajime1495]

Depends on how you *can* dispose of that speed. Lugia is too slow to do something against Yveltal, or Necrozma, or Toxic-possessing Arceus formes. Lugia's strength lies into having Multiscale *and* refreshing it with Roost. Along with Whirlwind and Psychic or Aeroblast, Lugia can potentially cripple powerhouses forever. Aside from that, anything in Uber under 120 Speed is slow by default: not because they are really slow, but relatively. *That and honestly you can't realistically make a Pokemon statistically good by not investing in that stat unless we are talking about astronomical values like KyogreP's SpA.*

[@shiennohajime1495]

@@matthewkuscienko4616 And hopefully not having awful typing like his. Cause, trust me, when Necrozma evolves, it's gonna regret it having dropped the previous typing and ability.

[@seanyoung246]

Serperior is meant to fit the fast and bulky role

[@1094steven]

Been years but lugias apperance in sword and shield with crown tundra has been its most horrifying apperance yet, the giant hp boost with multiscale, weakness policy, and aeroblast for max airstream is just insane

[@SilverAlex92]

Amazing video, great work with the music!. My only complaint is that you didn't keep listing absurd calculations

[@andrewmurray4643]

Dusk mane is so good. I mostly use it as a xerneas/kyogre counter.

[@crystiejb]

Gen 2: wall Gen 3: wall Gen 4: wall Gen 5: wall Gen 6: wall Gen 7: wall

[@Nosretep]

Gen 8?

[@DavideKuras]

@@Nosretep wall

[@Nosretep]

@@DavideKuras But worse because of Dynamax.

[@PT5-Shorts]

@@Nosretep Is it in gen 8?

[@Nosretep]

@@PT5-Shorts Yes.

[@soumilbiswas1841]

I dont know why, but whenever i see an uber Pokemon guide, t makes me smile. Probably because i used to play primarily ubers in Showdown. Grerat Video btw.

[@TheNiteNinja19]

Lugia's ability to learn a wide variety of moves made it deadly too. Outside of Fire type like Flamethrower, it can learn just about anything. I usually went full offensive and had Aeroblast, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, and Psychic, sometimes dealing with Earthquake instead of Psychic.

[@luukjansen4221]

Whis you will do a video on How good was skuntank actually? Luv team galactic (and especially Jupiter and Mars) But I only watch on yt so yeah I will just have to wait I think XD

[@charlesbrownjr5618]

Best Lugia set ever Toxic Roost/recover Aeroblast And also... Flash

[@3sikesimdead946]

flash?

[@NeoGraena]

Flash To accuracy lower

[@alexandradordzhieva3835]

*N E W M E T A* Garbodors: I'm so proud of this community

[@callmeosho7792]

*inserts steel*

[@HenrythePaleoGuy]

Lugia is such a beautiful pokemon with a great design. Love this thing.

[@aperson8059]

"one of the most majestic Pokemon ever" *Ho-oh wants to know your location*

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

*_MILOTIC LAUGHS IN THE DISTANCE_*

[@PeteStradlin]

Lugia stomps ho-oh everyday... Everybody knows this

[@saiswanpyaenaing6080]

No

[@sayvionwashington1939]

*Sirfetch'd quacks in chilvary*

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

@@sayvionwashington1939 *_Hydreigon laughs with three heads_*

[@TheStrudelkittyshow]

Never thought I’d see Rush references in these videos

[@stagdragon3978]

2:23 I could listen to those words several times over and still smile when I hear them.

[@mdudegamer]

Because you were talking about Rapid Spinners I misheard Rain Dish Tentacruel as Break Dance Tentacruel.

[@pakman5542]

Being a competitive Luigi main (but just a casual Pokémon player), I want Lugia’s spelling tone spelled as Luigia

[@brandonforrester7342]

A luigi main, in smash?

[@inkopon]

"PP stalling... with pressure"

[@Cervarius_K]

You covered my favorite Pokemon on my birthday. Clearly this was fate.

[@maxspecs]

Oh man, I can’t wait for Simisear next week owo

[@greenheroes]

smh forgot to mention about a gimmick of lugia in VGC along with fast mons like whimsicott, you fling a lansat berry on lugia to boost it's critical hit ratio and activate it's weakness policy so it could land +2 always critical aeroblast, possible since generation 6.

[@natekite7532]

Hey there's a mistake in the Gen 5 section it says that Lugia is Flying Psychic but it's actually Psychic Grass

[@shadowtitanx3962]

He must have accidentally forgot to replace that info from Celebi.

[@natekite7532]

@@shadowtitanx3962 yeah I know

[@kurthoffmann9827]

FSG is now my favourite poketube.

[@bren9193]

That ghost arceus calc at 7:40 was hilarious

[@dannyduds1058]

Lugia will always be my favorite legendary, then again i only know up to gen 2.

[@lovebirdrica22]

haha same

[@joebecerra1035]

I've been binge watching these for the last two weeks and all I really have to say is: How GOOD was Farfetch'd actually?

[@illoney5663]

Will be interesting to see whether the rest of the Sinnoh starters or Ho-Oh will follow Infernape.

[@farahkhan2654]

As lugia being my third favorite pokemon, this makes me sooooo happy

[@DPedro3]

Seeing Lugia: "I'm gonna destroy everything with aeroblast" Reality: stall Still OP, tho

[@40mihirkulkarni44]

Multiscale with weakness policy can turn it into an offensive sweeper, I'm actually surprised nobody's used this set before

[@DPedro3]

@@40mihirkulkarni44 it's not really reliable because very few pokémon (even in ubers) try to brute force their way into Lugia rather than toxic it, but it's not a bad set. You can catch people off guard if you predict well

[@matthewchen8452]

40 Mihir Kulkarni Even at +2 it has pretty meh power by Ubers standards so there’s just better options. Also its STAB combo leaves it hard countered by defensive steel types. Not to mention every Marshadow in Ubers would be licking their lips at the sight of it

[@prognemesiss]

Trump doesn't need to build a wall, he needs a bunch of lugia's

[@NeoGraena]

Yes he definetly needs like 1 million lugias

[@AverageRealmadridfan]

prognemesiss would only cost 1 million master balls

[@prognemesiss]

@@AverageRealmadridfan nah, just alot friends who help collect lugias during one of those nintendo events where you can get legendary pokemon.

[@remydrouant49]

@@NeoGraena a small loan of 1 million lugias?

[@NeoGraena]

@@remydrouant49 yes

[@Halfdanr_H]

I like Lugia. Awesome defence and varied attack types. It's always welcome in my party

[@Omega_thehusky]

This was everything I hoped it would be love Lugia

[@Y0G0FU]

Lugia is such a powerhouse. One of my Favourite Birds in Pokemon

[@shiennohajime1495]

Powerhouse is not exactly the right word here.

[@alexandradordzhieva3835]

*How good is Ho-Oh actually?* *Find out next time, on Stall Central!*

[@covershopkid]

I live Lugia so much. It’s awesome how it’s worked in every single generation so well, I would hope it gets a primal version just to be a little bit better!

[@larppa82new]

lugia and aggron are my 2 favorite pokemon, i love to hear that lugia is good in competitive

[@calebshepherd8435]

I'm so happy that Lugia is actually great! Lugia is my second favorite legendary, and it has been for a loooong time. Glad to see that it isn't one of those awesome Pokémon that is unviable in the meta.

[@karpro5865]

Is unviable in gen8