How GOOD were PIloswine & Mamoswine ACTUALLY - History of Competitive Piloswine & Mamoswine

Piloswine & Mamoswine are this week’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Piloswine & Mamoswine in competitive Pokemon!
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0:00 - Intro
0:52 - GSC/Gen 2
2:39 - ADV/Gen 3
3:58 - DPP/Gen 4
6:48 - Gen 4 VGC
7:26 - BW/Gen 5
9:26 - Gen 5 VGC
11:16 - XY/Gen 6
12:55 - Gen 6 VGC
14:06 - SM/Gen 7
15:19 - VGC Gen 7
15:33 - Outro
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DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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[@619Slipk]

"Won the Madison regionals with a Mamoswine that he amazingly forgot to put EVs on" Lmao XD

[@gengarzilla1685]

That's just so hardcore.

[@vivimannequin]

Imagine being that good at Pokémon

[@toastkirby]

@@vivimannequin This post was made by the casual gang

[@brabhamF1]

@@vivimannequin In Dunkswine we trust!

[@llamaryder1]

Me irl

[@phellowshipstar8756]

Fun fact: statistically, Ice and Ground do the most collective damage to every possible type combination in the game. Mamoswine has an argument for the best possible dual STAB.

[@N12015]

That explains a lot. In fact, the combination of Ground and Ice can hit for supereffective damage to 9 types (Dragon, Electric, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Poison, Rock and Steel), while only being resisted by bug/water (Golisopod/Araquanid) or bug/ice (Frosmoth), as well as steel (Bronzong), Water (Rotom-W), Fire (Rotom-H) and Ice (Rotom-F) types with levitate and bug types with thick fat, almost all of them weak to rock coverage. When coupled with a monstrous 130 base attack, usable 80 base speed, good 110/80/60 base bulk and Ice shard, Mamoswine is a fearsome threat and one of my 5 favourite pokemon. Galar-Darmanitan is in that sense just overall a better Mamoswine, with more speed, coverage and power, at the cost of defensive utility, Ice shard and STAB Earthquake.

[@smashmallow1012]

Shirotaka Sinnohfetus tied with crabominable’s ice fighting

[@Lotus_RT]

In terms of super effective STABS, Ground + Ice is the best in that front. But if you're looking for best neutral STABS, then the attention gets turned to Marshadow, and that's because no pokemon can resist both of its STABS. Normal + Ghost is the only type combo that can resist both Fighting + Ghost, and that combo hasn't materialized. (EDIT: Yes, I'm aware that Hisuian Zorua/Zoroark exist now, but those pokemon were released long after this initial post was made.)

[@smashmallow1012]

Eternity_Lotus not true, grass+steel resists both stabs

[@phellowshipstar8756]

@@smashmallow1012 Neither of those types resist Ghost or Fighting lmao

[@bluebaron6811]

Fun fact: In gen 7 before Buzzwole was banned from UU, people used Peck for Mamoswine's fourth move. While it didn't outright KO Buzzwole from full health, people were willing to sacrifice a Z-crystal slot for him, upgrading Peck into a hilarious Supersonic Skystrike. The set disappeared after Buzzwole's ban, but seeing Mamoswine take flight is the funniest thing competitive Pokémon has ever seen.

[@sketchydude8431]

That sounds amazing

[@NapoleanBlown-aparte]

Supersonic skystrike has produced the funniest animations in existence i swear-

[@tythecakelord445]

When pigs fly ig

[@mrtrollnator123]

💀

[@gamet2004]

Strangely, Mamoswine's 1st set in the BattleFactory in Platinum/HgSs has peck for some reasons...

[@amiablereaper]

I love how every new gen there's just one more Pokemon Mamoswine absolutely smashes

[@gengarzilla1685]

Just goes to show, Ice and Ground together is a brilliant offensive combination.

[@bryanc1772]

@@gengarzilla1685 too bad it’s bad defensively . swine should be faster

[@notvex3987]

@@bryanc1772 faster mamo would probably kill everything

[@gengarzilla1685]

Yeah, 80 Speed is totally serviceable if you know what you're doing here. Mamoswine is no Snorlax as far as Speed goes.

[@Eminster]

@@gengarzilla1685 not to mention it's typing covers both of it's weaknesses: ground>grass>ice Ice>fire>ground

[@SgtCookie111]

Garchomp: "I fear no Poke-god." Garchomp: "But that thing." *Insert picture of Mammoswine.* Garchomp: "It scares me."

[@endaa45]

Sick TF2 reference

[@leonhardtbelgar2468]

Add Weavile too, as that thing dosen't even need to take a hit from Chomp unless it's scarfed

[@williamhuynh869]

How bout focus sash ice cream? Blizzards with snow warning eh. (Its a joke)

[@Acacius1992]

That Tf2 Refference xD Very cool :D

[@miguelmialichi6367]

Maniacally laughs in alola ninetales

[@frappompi]

I really like Pilloswine's design . It's so simple and fluffy.

[@miguelmialichi6367]

Smirks in gigantamax eevee

[@thetabbyguy921]

Piloswine is pokemon chewbacca

[@danmueller4021]

Same!

[@ramjayplayz1783]

Piloswine has dot eyes

[@azelfdaboi5265]

I like Swinub most It's a small ball of hair, but it's so cute

[@bagelpenguin6499]

6:39 Bro, Yanmega dodged that.

[@xic4589]

Ice Shard: I'll pretend I didnt see that

[@axlr8deathpls294]

Bruh

[@jalapenobug]

Biased Hitboxes

[@bobuxdoesmemes924]

Lmao

[@bobuxdoesmemes924]

+ like

[@gregorymirabella1423]

it's shame this was made before gen 8, because the mammoth boi is immune to intimidate now, thus making it a fantastic landorus counter in vgc.

[@3180P5]

Cooool!

[@jamesdinius7769]

I think it actually still goes for thick fat over oblivious. At base 80 speed, it needs insurance against those hits.

[@Gemini359X]

@@jamesdinius7769 Quite the opposite actually, mamoswine doesn’t have the bulk to stomach the hits flying around in vgc, making thick fat usually unnecessary. Meanwhile, between incineroar being everywhere, and Landorus and Arcanine being fairly common as well, Oblivious blocking intimidate and Keeping Mamoswine’s attack pristine against them is incredibly important. Plus, base 80 speed is quite flexible for use in Tailwind or Trick room, amongst other speed control, which is commonplace in vgc, its speed is perfectly acceptable.

[@kxngrxse1562]

Most people run thick fat over oblivious to make it more bulky

[@luisan776]

@@kxngrxse1562 93% use oblivious while only 7% use thick fat

[@YarnLalms711]

That moment you win VGC WITHOUT EVs

[@donlyphans7801]

HaCkER EXpOSEd

[@sealandrelevant1310]

"You know the funniest part?" "What?" "I forgot to EV train this one" Everyone who lost because of that Pokémon "WHAAAAAT?!"

[@CherryblossomFoxx]

@@sealandrelevant1310"N-nani??"

[@lagspike7763]

Too thicc for the metagame

[@autumnleaf2513]

"What evs were on the mamoswine?" "None, I forgot them." "Oh..."

[@tenshi7784]

"Ice types suck" *Pulls out Mamoswine* You were saying?

[@thesubinion]

Weavile: "Am i a joke to you?"

[@khanscoutduck2011]

Yes

[@memester1912]

Abomasnow: Am I a joke to you too?

[@h0m3st4r]

Kyurem Black: "I was supposed to be Uber."

[@infinitethunder6184]

@@fl4k_40 yep. As far as I'm aware, it is the only non legend other than garchomp to be banned to Ubers. (Excluding wobbuffet. That's an odd case)

[@DiseasedMoss]

There needs to be a separate voting area. The comments could be an interesting discussion area for different sets, but it devolves into *"HoW gOoD wAs pOlIwHiRl aCtUaLlY, i'Ll NeVEr GiVe Up oN mY SwIrLy WaIfU"*

[@ballpython3310]

This needs to be top comment.

[@HighMightyWeasel]

I completely agree. There needs to be a strawpoll esque site where people can leave suggestions.

[@catelyntully9494]

this a 1000 times, there have been many times where the pokemon screams for more disscusion but everything dies with people suggesting pokemon.

[@Marcusjnmc]

lol

[@realbartsimpson]

this.

[@redwings13400]

Mamoswine is one of the few pokemon in the game that can take its ice typing and turn it in to an advantage rather than a disadvantage, due to its monstrous attack, ice shard, and additional ground typing for a stealth rock neutrality. Ice shard is the reason mamo can work, because it allows mamo to hit so many pokemon with a powerful x4 priority move, and turns its ice typing from a defensive liability to an offensive strength.

[@ralphthefrog3086]

True dat. Only others I see due this are Ninetales with the Aurora veil for ou, sandslash for aurora veil for lower tiers and weavile.

[@ralphthefrog3086]

@TheNintendoBustr Yeah true but those are legendaries and a mega.

[@gundorf2063]

Ice in general is a really good offensive typing. The problem was just that there weren't enough hard hitting Ice-type pokemons.

[@redwings13400]

@TheNintendoBustr abomasnow and glalie are still kinda bad in comparison to most megas, and the kyurem forms get by on their absurd stats. Mamo and weavile are really the only two ice types that can get by really well because of their typing right now, I think the other ice types high up would be better with a typing change. I say this sadly because I love ice as a typing, it's just not great competitively in most circumstances. Bulky waters pull off special attacking sets with ice coverage better than most ice types do it.

[@GIR177]

@@gundorf2063 Not true, there are definitely quite a few strong Ice types (Kyurem, Mamo, Weavile, Jynx, Crabominable) and even ones with great movepools. The issue is that Ice packs 4 common weaknesses while bringing only one resistance to the table - Ice itself. Add to the fact that most Ice types dont always have the best defenses and they become a pain in the ass to switch in and keep healthy. The Ice STAB just doesn't make up for it in most cases. Mamo's really only good because the Ground typing, not only because it gets a great secondary STAB, and but because it doesnt get worn down as easily by things like sand and Stealth Rock. No one would consider using it otherwise, no matter how strong it was.

[@maverick5169]

Just like Dusknoir said in Mystery Dungeon, Mamoswine is truly the strongest ice type

[@Trollrijas]

Lol I remember that quote before fighting mamoswine and 4 glalies

[@musique-ef3rz]

Except galar darm be here so..

[@maverick5169]

@@musique-ef3rz One/Two years brought quite the changes, uh?

[@yizao9289]

Kyrume white : ... *you dare challenge me mortal*

[@NeonWasInUse]

@@yizao9289 Mamoswine with Iron Head: *YES*

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

Landorus T: Finally, I've found it! *_The Scroll of Truth!_* " _You are completely useless against Mamoswine._ " Nyeeeeeeh!

[@rjante2236]

But it learns Superpower!!!!!!!!!

[@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv]

RJ Ante Psssst *ice shard and choice icicle crash*

[@wesuckatgames9549]

to be fair earthquake 2hkos mamoswine so it's not like mamoswine can switch in

[@YoHoOMirster]

you only need to do 17% to knock Landorus out with ice shard

[@kristianschuff1723]

@@rjante2236 one word ice shard

[@otozinclus3593]

Its worth mentioning that Piloswine gets used a lot in Ice-monotype, due to it being the only mon you can switch into high power fire moves and it having stealth rock

[@gengarzilla1685]

Not just for Stealth Rock, I'd think, but also being neutral against it when you don't give it those boots.

[@otozinclus3593]

@@gengarzilla1685 That is nice too, but not really the reason you play him. He just has a lot of role compression: You need a SpD tank? Here you go. You need something neutral for fire types? Pilo is there. You need a steakthrocker? Pilos does that.

[@otozinclus3593]

@@weavilelover Its because of thic fat

[@blackrabbitdogs1874]

@@weavilelover thick fat

[@markwharam5504]

@@weavileloverThick Fat halves Fire and Ice damage so it is effectively neutral to Fire.

[@greengreninja5725]

As a fellow Mamoswine lover, seeing this makes me want to go wreak havoc on some Dragons. Thanks FSG.

[@FakeSugarVillain]

Mamoswine was killing dragons before it was cool

[@boryontotheleader2328]

Steel King Benjamin *easier

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

*Hydreigon used Focus Blast!*

[@FakeSugarVillain]

@@goldenhydreigon4727 Mamoswine be like "Do you even *ICE SHARD* bro"

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

@@FakeSugarVillain *I believe you have forgotten about Focus Sash.*

[@flatziswashed]

How GOOD was Aggron ACTUALLY? c’mon we need this

[@Angel-3842]

We need our dinosaur boy

[@goGothitaLOL]

#ArmoredDinosaur

[@ryansoltner5229]

Been trying so hard for this

[@phnexOice]

Honestly, not very good, the highest it's ever been is UU and even there it suffers from it's crippling weaknesses as well as a terrible special defense stat.

[@ender3530]

Yes

[@ThunderGun2]

How good was Omastar actually? I’m never giving up on this.

[@andrewburgess-linden9612]

Genwunners Unite to Summon Lord Helix

[@kefkapalazzo1]

It’s too trash

[@CaDeYbOi]

@@kefkapalazzo1 filthy heathen

[@felixlee9645]

But that 4x weakness to grass!!!!

[@andrewburgess-linden9612]

@@felixlee9645 in Lord Helix Defense, Grass Isn't that Good in Competitive Play

[@CubeBizz]

Mamoswime was my favorite in DPP: amazing offensve typing, strong, bulky and has priority STAB. Sometimes I wish Tyranitar had Accelerock too.

[@FakeSugarVillain]

Imagine how your life would be if Tyranitar had accelerock

[@gengarzilla1685]

I'd like Aerodactyl to get that since it's a contact move. Mega Aerodactyl's Tough Claws boosted Accelerock sounds scary.

[@tesseract2144]

His offensive typing is not just amazing, it is simply the best possible, unless they release dozens of competitive bug/water pokemons in gen 8

[@Ob1tuber]

Tyranitar: hello ubers I have come to wreak havoc on your tier

[@bulborb8756]

@@tesseract2144 well gen 8 didn't add in any new bug/water's so we still only have Golisopod & Araquanid....BUT we did get other strong bug's with the bug/fire Centiskorch, the bug/psychic Orbeetle and the bug/ice Frosmoth

[@SephonDK]

Mamoswine has the absolutely the best cry in the game. Truly a thing to fear.

[@SandshrewEnthu1]

Pokemon GO Mamoswine also really helps me wipe the floor with premier cup, sometimes being replaced by magmortar or Gardevoir. Nonetheless, it is a great Pokemon who has some best friends with MudSlap Earthquake Excadrill, and DragonBreath DragonClaw Dragonite

[@kabelguy70]

Second only to Aggron. I love how aggressive it sounds.

[@angelicaph483]

and thats why the mamoswine i had on pokemon platinum and pearl was absolutely beast

[@deathboo5535]

How GOOD was Shedinja ACTUALLY? Not giving up until you trashtalk about the underglorified husk

[@Kantlim]

But please, don't turn it into a joke video .-. I felt bad after Ledian one.

[@klondikelegitski675]

Maybe try donating to him on Patreon? Thats what made him do Ledian.

[@Kantlim]

​@@klondikelegitski675 I'm not complaining about Ledian, but about way he's presented.

[@shirshanyaroy287]

@@Kantlim well what could he have done otherwise? Explained in detail how ledian was utter garbage every single generation?

[@klondikelegitski675]

@@Kantlim I didnt say you were complaining, I was metioning that the OP has a better shot at getting a Shedinja video if he donates a few dollars

[@chamber8234]

The following Pokémon have already been analyzed: Aerodactyl Alakazam Ampharos Arcanine Articuno Azumarill Blastoise Blaziken Breloom Chansey/Blissey Charizard Clefable Cloyster Delibird Donphan Dragonite Dugtrio Dunsparce Electabuzz/Electivire Entei Espeon Exeggutor Feraligatr Flareon Flygon Gallade Garchomp Gardevoir Gengar Gligar/Gliscor Golbat/Crobat Gyarados Heracross Houndoom Jolteon Jumpluff Kangaskhan Lapras Ledian Lucario Machamp Magmar/Magmortar Magneton/Magnezone Marowak Meganium Metagross Mew Mewtwo Milotic Misdreavus/Mismagius Moltres Muk Nidoking Ninetales Onix/Steelix Persian Pidgeot Pikachu Piloswine/Mamoswine Poliwrath Porygon/Porygon2 Porygon-Z Quagsire Raichu Raikou Rhydon/Rhyperior Roselia/Roserade Salamence Sceptile Scizor Seadra/Kingdra Shuckle Skarmory Slowbro Smeargle Sneasel/Weavile Snorlax Starmie Suicune Swampert Tangela/Tangrowth Tauros Tentacruel Togetic/Togekiss Typhlosion Tyranitar Umbreon Unown ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3mZZmx_fdmdrLc ) Vaporeon Venusaur Weezing Wigglytuff Wobbuffet Zapdos Please vote on Pokémon that are NOT seen on this list OR vote for Pokémon you wish to see re-visited for FalseSwipeGaming’s next analytic video. PLEASE NOTE: This comment is neither discouraged nor encouraged by FalseSwipeGaming and is updated/posted weekly for subscribers of the channel to see which Pokémon have been and have not been covered. Any further questions can be answered by messaging my personal Twitter: @freakyf1shguy.

[@elevate07]

Based

[@fatfuck2384]

elevate07 I was literally about to post this

[@guylevi4542]

You are the hero this world needs Thank you for your service

[@NerdX151]

* *sigh* * Still no Gen 5.

[@madmaniggy45]

You're doing God's work friendo.

[@sonofnel1480]

6:38 Lol, Yanmega tried avoiding that ice shard

[@randomcomment7863]

If there is any video next week, it better be a “how good was my Christmas 2018 actually?” The False Swipe Gaming team has been producing quality videos that are fun to watch, even just for a casual Pokémon player/no competitive ace like myself. On top of that, they have been producing according to schedule too, which is a challenge for many other quality channels. They definitely deserve some time to relax and celebrate the holidays!

[@scarlett285]

Seeing Piloswine's eyes is strangely disturbing

[@null1909]

How good were Yanma and Yanmega actually?? Might as well keep the theme going with one of the more interesting Bug types that received similar treatment

[@goGothitaLOL]

#SpeedyDragonfly

[@gengarzilla1685]

Yanmega really should be Bug/Dragon, I'd say. Forget Flygon, this is a better match here.

[@coldore6734]

Mamoswine has been really consistent! Being great in ou/having a niche in ou for all its generations

[@coldore6734]

@UCwYCMw3_JyLkpcKslNCcymg well you kinda deserved the spoil because 1:you looked at the comments 2:you watched the vid REALLY late But knowing which tiers it's been in doesn't matter for me since the important is why are they in those tiers

[@albabimam1114]

Well said SimpOre

[@Bonzana1234]

@6:39 Yanmega was really trying juke that Ice Shard 😂😂😂

[@chupacadabra5161]

The trainer behind him: My time has come.

[@quirkle7538]

How good was false Swipe gaming's Christmas actually????

[@PuertoRicanLover15]

Delibird forgot Present 😰

[@afonsotopa9164]

Pretty bad

[@vivimannequin]

I bet nobody here noticed piloswine can learn ancient power in gen 3 but still can't evolve

[@zachub034]

Mamoswine is gen 4 tho

[@leogonok2042]

@Jesus Renteria r/ihavereddit

[@JovanaSanchez000]

Because it had to pray for Arceus to grant its wish to evolve.

[@bdt2002gaming]

FSG made a joke about Swine Flu at the end of the video but now I’m starting to think he might have been onto something. I think the theme with Mamoswine is the changing time. Notice how Mamoswine’s Shiny has “Swine Flu” written all over it, and that was apparently before the incident even began. Come to think of it, the COVID situation is kinda similar. Gen 4: Swine Flu, Sinnoh games Gen 8: COVID-19, Sinnoh remakes

[@dysprosium]

It could learn Ancient Power in gen 2 as well, same with Likitung being able to learn Rollout in both gen 2 and gen 3.

[@Chefvonbreezy]

Fun fact ice and ground either neutrally or super effectively hit every single type in the game. When they gave it thick fat it became so nice. Even the buffed oblivious is fantastic.

[@FakeSugarVillain]

Mamoswine, the true dragonslayer

[@gengarzilla1685]

Mamoswine and his magnetic brethren instructed a select few species how to fight the onslaught of their draconian adversaries, and now these "Fairy types" gather at the same spot every December 25th to pay their utmost respect.

[@FakeSugarVillain]

@@gengarzilla1685 that sounds like a power ranger backstory

[@fabbgrat489]

And weavile too

[@valemontgomery9401]

Makes a bit of sense. Mammoths came after the dinosaurs

[@NeonWasInUse]

Funnily enough now they're showing almost every common OU mon in Gen 8 Who's boss.

[@hamzahax]

My favourite Ice-Type. I love this big boofy boi Edit: WOW soo many likes. THank you people

[@Duskool]

This absolute unit is a good boi

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@Duskool wish I had a poofy boi plushy

[@openinginawe5518]

I love Mamoswine because of the anime. Swinub was adorable. Mamoswine was cool. How Good was Celebi Actually? Merry Christmas To all.

[@lolikiller1819]

How good was electrode actually? Pls

[@ethanstein6613]

We wish you a marill Christmas and a hoppip new year falseswipegaming!

[@insertobject4002]

PUN POLICE INCOMING

[@pandaqu7675]

Happiny new year maybe?

[@randomguy8895]

Ik where you got that from... (Pokémon Christmas Rap song thing) forgot what it's called

[@sandrahwu]

@Random guy I think it’s the “Pokémon Christmas Bash.”

[@randomguy8895]

@@sandrahwu I think it was from Jwitts what I got.it.from And Thanks.for the name :v

[@jaretco6423]

Mamoswine is awesome. It was the original dragonslayer before Fairy types came around. But it's still an dragonslayer all around and having it into my team was an blast.

[@aryksnag1935]

Mamoswine can also slay the Dragon/Fire & Dragon/Steel dragons too. Unlike the Fairy-Types.

[@muzammilibrahim5011]

@@aryksnag1935 And Dragon/Poison

[@Xzeihoranth]

It's interesting how useful Mamoswine is even with its Ice typing on the defensive, with its solid stats and movepool. Merry Christmas!

[@jaidencarvalho1761]

Merry Christmas to you and all those you celebrate with 😀🎄!

[@lumega7328]

How Good Was Beedrill was Actually

[@galladite95]

I've been requesting 2nd this for MONTHS. How did you get 14 likes after 1 POST!

[@danielnodland4072]

BUNT'D

[@LunaTulpa]

Just watch the ledian video and replace the word ledian with beedrill and it's pretty much the same

[@charlieisprocrastinating]

Luna Tulpa mega Beedrill?

[@derpysheep5872]

Yes

[@kabelguy70]

Mamoswine is so good, that it even managed to cross the Galar Border!

[@xaxcord2739]

Lol

[@BR34DCRUMB]

mamoswine is my favorite ice type and in my top 10 ever. i’m super glad you made a video and even more glad that it was and to an extent still is an absolute unit. you just need to make an infernape video and my life will be complete. merry christmas everyone!

[@Aydarkzero]

How good was Infernape actually? Happy holidays everyone!

[@CritsuKirby]

How good was Celebi ACTUALLY?

[@MrDylan2125]

As much as I want Infernape, I'd be stoked with this. Celebi has always been one of my favorites.

[@felixlee9645]

But dat 4x weakness to bug doh

[@CritsuKirby]

@@felixlee9645 The Bug type was the least of its worries, honestly. It was the numerous other weaknesses that came with its type that it had to worry about. But even that didn't mean much for a sweeper, whose archetype usually gets done in by chip damage and priority moves. But once its checks were removed, that elf's smirk would be giving the Grinch a run for his money.

[@Sombres]

I've been requesting 2nd this for MONTHS.

[@thewrathfullucario8436]

Pokemon that were analyzed Gen 1: Venusaur Charizard Blastoise Pidgeot Pikachu Raichu Nidoking Clefable Nientales Wigglytuff Golbat Dugtrio Persian Arcanine Poliwrath Alakazam Machamp Tentacruel Slowbro Magneton Muk Cloyster Gengar Onix Exeggutor Marowak Weezing Rhydon Chansey Tangela Kangaskhan Seadra Starmie Electabuzz Magmar Tauros Gyarados Lapras Vaporeon Jolteon Flareon Porygon Aerodactyl Snorlax Articuno Moltres Zapdos Dragonite Mewtwo Mew Gen 2: Meganium Typhloison Feraligatr Ledian Crobat Togetic Ampharos Azumarill Jumpluff Quagsire Umbreon Espeon Misdreavus Wobbuffet Dusparce Gligar Steelix Scizor Shuckle Heracross Sneasel Piloswine Delibird Skarmory Houndoom Kingdra Porygon2 Smeargle Blissey Raikou Entei Suicune Tyranitar Gen 3: Sceptile Blaziken Swampert Gardevoir Breloom Roselia Flygon Milotic Salamence Metagross Gen 4: Roserade Mismagius Garchomp Lucario Weavile Magnezone Rhyperior Tangrowth Electivire Magmortar Togekiss Gliscor Mamoswine Porygon-z Gallade

[@rydenhope3602]

Thanks for the compilation. I watch almost all of them but it's still helpful to see what we've covered, so see also where we can go as well.

[@mohammedchowdhury4058]

I like how we have more Gen 4 picks then Gen 3 picks. RIP RSE

[@dalluc]

@@mohammedchowdhury4058 if you look closely most gen 4 pokes are continuations of evo lines started either in gen 1 or 2, thats why theres so many.

[@TerraTuso]

Magmorta? I think there's a letter missing my guy.

[@thewrathfullucario8436]

@@TerraTuso oh yeah my mistake i'll fix that Edit: did it.

[@FreetStighter]

Amazing research as always! Thanks you and have a great weekend!

[@LightningCayo]

How good was Beedrill actually? (Why do I bother asking when someone else probably already has one hundred times)

[@WaggishTyphlosion]

I'll just tell you. Trash until ORAS

[@CylonDorado]

And at that point it crawled it's way up to UU.

[@PumPuum]

How *GOOD* was *CELEBI* Actually? We've seen this little guy too much as to keep ignoring him.

[@bluefable3416]

Guy?i alway see it as a female then again *IT* doesn't has a gender

[@thevenomoth3455]

Pum do you guys just pull Pokémon out of a hat and decide what to vote for that way?

[@moonjelly5]

I love this thing. My Choice Band Mamoswine demolished everything in its path for a few local singles tournaments.

[@edmg7]

Huh, I knew Mamoswine was useful, but I never realized how much of an anti meta machine it is. And anti meta is my favorite way to build a team. I need to train one of these things.

[@NaudaBase]

Can we talk about how cool it is to have a good ice type around? Goddamn, just imagine how empty the decent ice types would be if Mamoswine didnt exist. Right now, besides Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, and freaking Arceus-Ice, (and arguably weavile, but I'd say they are on the same level basically) there is no stronger ice-type pokemon. And that has basically been the case for years : Weavile and Piloswine were the only two non legendaries decent ice type pokemon. And while Weavile fitted the frail fast f**ker niche, Mamoswine was the hulking beast that everybody was scared of for a while. Kudos to Mamoswine for making a horribly typing somewhat relevant, otherwise we would have basically been stuck to systematically using ice moves on non-ice pokemon for years on end.

[@ralphthefrog3086]

I think a really strong and fast special attacking ice type would actually be a huge splash in the meta.

[@deadlive3212]

Isn‘t Alolan-Vulnona pretty good?

[@Mangosjoraa]

Cloyster?

[@justhavingsomefun9539]

Cloyster used to be the only decent ice type before mamo arrived, weavile has its niche but it's just too frail.

[@aq8048]

@@Mangosjoraa pex beat's it

[@Animefan8451]

How GOOD was Celebi ACTUALLY?

[@maxwarp]

Merry Christmas man! Great work as always

[@xx_lunchmeat_xx752]

love how solid mamoswine is throughout the games

[@mr.toucan61]

Still no Furret Sad boy hours

[@kadeschneider674]

I just realized how much we need a mega-Mamoswine.

[@hellkin100]

Merry Christmas and thank you for showing some Pokémon in the competitive format. Although truth be told I'm a casual player however learning how the other side views some Pokémon is valuable so thank you.

[@jjc4924]

An perfect example that an Ice type Pokemon that can be good, just as long as it has the right combo typing, better stats, amazing movesets & good coverage. Mamoswine was great.

[@monsieurromanbedlam5101]

Just be a offensively good ice type.

[@dashoman500]

I think i am the ONLY one that wants Slakoth.

[@taijutsugal]

Hyper beam gen 3 spammage:,)

[@dashoman500]

@@orionkeenan6247 Yeah, i mistyped.

[@littleman7514]

Dante HG LC

[@chilliglizzy9823]

How to deal with dragons: Throw ice at them

[@springtrap1156]

Or another dragon

[@re_guglia]

Or...a fairy

[@QueenEspeon96]

These were the Pokemon I requested 😍 Thank you False Swipe Gaming

[@stevenmattrell3448]

Merry Christmas! Also thanks for doing this one.

[@M3rtyville]

How GOOD was the FIRST UBER to drop to OU Celebi ACTUALLY?

[@freindenoir]

M3rtyville UU*

[@TeeKayDee]

Wow. I had to look that up. Celebi really was uber once. Was Smogon even a thing before gen 3?

[@M3rtyville]

it has to drop to OU first before dropping further. It was OU in Gen 3 @@freindenoir

[@beunjoris]

@@M3rtyville No not really. Gen 4 Mew was always Uber Gen 5 Mew dropped to UU.

[@telekiller7]

Celebi is an uber spirit in smash ultimate, does that count?

[@aliaspseudonym525]

Good video, & Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays! Also, shoutouts to winning VGC without EVs. That's a good Mamoswine! But I am disappointed by the lack of commentary on Eviolite Piloswine.

[@TheGameMage_]

“Shaymin sky was eventually banned because it was over powered” After showing it being one shot by mamoswine

[@enesduraku6087]

I mean...By that point in video the fact that Mamo was the op wrecker was established.

[@glacierwolf2155]

Remember, just because a powerful Pokemon has a check doesn't make it balanced.

[@albabimam1114]

Not like Mamo can switch in on it at all. Skymin OHKOes it with Seed Flare

[@NeonWasInUse]

This is why we call Mamoswine "The OP Slayer."

[@gamefreak2050]

Happy holidays, and nice video! Would like to have seen an eviolite piloswine mention but mah boi mamoswine deserves his spotlight

[@wardskidoedels512]

how GOOD was shedinja ACTUALLY

[@590488]

It's not

[@NerdX151]

@@590488 It is in the OU tier, and if you make use of the Wonder Guard ability, it can be a beast.

[@590488]

@@NerdX151 in gens 3-5 it's hard countered by sand stream (which was almost always present) in the other gens you still need 5 mons to support it. With the right team support you can make any mon work, but that still doesn't make it a good pokemon

[@liamtan7245]

Marc Liljeqvist it’s not in OU, it’s PU. In an ideal competitive scenario, Shedinja dies to virtually any entry hazard, status, and a ton of common coverage moves, like Hidden Power Fire. It’s not good.

[@demetraeconomou6096]

@@NerdX151 its TRASH

[@Mage_Nichlas_]

It's finally time to get Hitmonchan into the ring. How GOOD was Hitmonchan ACTUALLY?

[@sethanderson5128]

That’s nice to hear always liked this mon a lot. It’s typing is very versatile!

[@igna2788]

Grandissimo Arash! Italy follows you, False Swipe. Have a cool Christmas

[@themoonlitspice325]

Merry Christmas, FSG Team! How GOOD were Murkrow and Honchkrow ACTUALLY?

[@EdmacZ]

Mamoswine and Weavile prove that Ice Types can still be very good and the type doesn’t need a buff. They just need to be better designed.

[@Mr.Tw1sty]

How dare you insult mamoswine

[@sayvionwashington1939]

Maybe they should stop making every Ice type be defensive or just plain suck. The only somewhat passible defensive Ice Type is Aavalug who has niche on stall in OU.

[@beta511ee4]

Sayvion Washington Why Avalugg of all things?

[@casualinsanity2923]

Skeeter Mania www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/avalugg/

[@thisisjfl]

Better design? Your eyes must be blind

[@JDawg654]

Another great video. Thanks Kellan Enjoy the holiday. JR

[@morgatious]

im so happy you covered mammoswine. it's my favorite ground type pokemon.

[@aquakiido7204]

how good was ABSOL actually?

[@determineddaaf3]

I wish he did Absol, he's now doing holidays stuff though.

[@M3rtyville]

how GOOD was GOLEM and Alolan Form Actually?

[@jaidencarvalho1761]

Keep upvoting comments asking for it and it might happen! Merry Christmas 😀🎄!

[@kosachilles2504]

Great video!

[@Vexmalta]

Piloswine was my first random encounter shiny. Tis nice

[@bigfatmothra5956]

How GOOD was Lugia actually? I’ll never give up!!

[@CheesyCore]

he stood there unkillable

[@kazoorion7993]

Whenever someone mentions Lugia, I can't help but think about Shadow Lugia.

[@CheesyCore]

@@kazoorion7993 you have niko profile pic so i love you

[@bigfatmothra5956]

@@kazoorion7993 FR!!

[@malcolmmartinez5245]

Thank you!!!!!I been asking for lugia and ho oh for a while

[@solarflare3000]

Merry Christmas FalseSwipeGaming, and to everyone in the comment section!

[@jaidencarvalho1761]

Merry Christmas to you and all those you celebrate with 😀🎄!

[@solarflare3000]

@@jaidencarvalho1761 Thanks! You too!

[@thomasjanda2140]

Yo and merry christmas False Swipe Gaming.☺

[@joseamieva2168]

I love the way you pronounced Queretaro. I think I’ll be saying it that way from now on lol

[@Boltizar49]

Why go with pork when you can have beef? How good was #WhitneysMiltank actually?

[@NeoGraena]

it was soo powerful whitney's miltank was sent to ubers due to its sheer power

[@mohammedchowdhury4058]

But Hera eats it for breakfast tho. I doubt shes good enough for ubers

[@NeoGraena]

@@mohammedchowdhury4058 hera is its only counter yet it can still die to its rollout

[@mohammedchowdhury4058]

@@NeoGraena it learns brick break at 19 which 2hkos the overgrown beef girl rollout cant do much dmg on the first strike

[@fapo803]

Hasn't been relevant since Gen 2 Its been UU trash since

[@mindbender1995]

How good was Infernape actually?

[@opposumness3107]

Merry Christmas, FSG 😊I wish you could do Piloswine more screentime, cause I feel it doesn't get the recognition it deserves in the lower tiers. Anyway happy holidays 👌

[@kittymaster3210]

Really liked the new video you put out on ice types

[@Entelarmer]

I kind of like Piloswine more than Mamoswine, and i loved Swinub's animation in pokemon go when it runs around... xD

[@allewis4008]

Wonderful Pokemon, one of the best bulldozers in the game.

[@nps86]

Fun Fact: Swinub are used for finding hot springs

[@hellomyass65]

Yes my icy boi has finally got his video!

[@kurthoffmann9827]

Wow did not think Mamoswine was this good. grait video. Really like to see Forretress, next time.👍

[@Ultra2263]

Can we please do the 100-across-the-board mythicals? How GOOD Was Celebi ACTUALLY?

[@jaidencarvalho1761]

Keep upvoting comments asking for it and it might happen soon! Merry Christmas 😀🎄!

[@mr.vide0147]

Lets keep going with gen 2 with Celebi!

[@vinny4765]

Glad to have a serious video again

[@Eddo0702]

i love mamoswine, i´ve been waiting for this for so long

[@Xepscern]

How GOOD was BUTTERFREE ACTUALLY?!

[@facade6927]

I'd love you see you cover eviolite Pilowsine in the coming future, its one of the more sturdier walls with rocks and personally I've seen it many many times in overused

[@toddcorbran6830]

HELL YEAH ITS MA BOI I've used Mamoswine in OU and VGC since 2014 and it is a monster. The best set I used was assault vest mamoswine which decimated unsuspecting teams as they were caught completely off guard by a mamoswine living special super effective moves quite well especially fire moves. I really do think it's an underrated pokemon and the fact that it frequently moved between OU and UU shows that.

[@sliced8669]

It has always bothered me how low mamoswine’s tusks are on its face

[@breloom657]

Ah! Why would you say that! Now that bothers me and I can't unsee it 😅

[@victorsandeen2694]

I think that's because they are on his lower jaw.

[@Kokonutzlz]

They're teeth that look like tusks. They're mammoth pigs, having enlarged teeth like boars to root around in the ground with

[@robac2263]

How GOOD is Celebi ACTUALLY?

[@SephonDK]

Yay! Mamoswine is my favorite Pokémon... I love this!

[@Jhakri_]

I love mamoswine, he's always one of the pokemon I bring with me on the first trip through a generation (along with an eevee)

[@MrDylan2125]

How good was Infernape actually? I will wait patiently until after the holidays, but seriously, Infernape please.

[@yanaigatterer958]

Yep

[@bearandthebull2372]

It was REALLY REALLY good.

[@kazoorion7993]

I just wish it's HA boost every punch moves by 50% instead of 20%....

[@chuyrenteria6252]

ou in gen 4 and 5, but uu in gen 6 and 7.