How grandmasters study chess openings

[@vanillakevs5469]

Tani typing in chat that he has school is so funny for some reason

[@prakash-ry9ot]

Tani?

[@r3apxer]

@@prakash-ry9ot a very good, a very young, chess player that can be seen in the beginning of the video

[@jimrogers7460]

"we don't remember half of it and the other half we don't understand" !! - I love that - coming from this all time great player

[@joshuabuena8049]

This conversation is enlightening. I kinda paused on systems like London, Colle, KIA, KID, etc. I sometimes instinctively move to a certain square without even analyzing the board. Understanding the "why" is a really good advice, I stepped back a bit and I just play fundamentally sound chess, not concentrating on the opening and their lines. I actually find it a bit liberating.

[@Biblogigonogogga]

Not studying openings and playing fundamental is fine until you reach to1640+ rating

[@ilbeyerbay5948]

​@@BiblogigonogoggaYeah as soon as i reached 1641 rating it got a lot harder

[@maksedits933]

I like the chat conversation when Tani says he has school haha

[@severnkariuki9129]

It's all fun during e4 because of space and Nf3 because of development until you sac rook for bishop to buy time for the king to run.

[@dantez3600]

I thinks it's important to study an opening along with its respective middle game ideas. For example, when I play Queen's Gambit declined, when playing horse to e2, the usual play to go in the middle is to push your e pawn. And to do it, you need several set up moves. But let's say you want to go for a minority attack on the left side, then you have to set up by putting your rook in b1 to then push your pawns and obliterate blacks pawn structure. The openings are set ups for your middle game.

[@thunder0710]

Pragg just played it yesterday(6 apr 2024) in candidates and he won Everyone was surprised but i had already seen this video

[@petergriffin8767]

Bro who are these 1000s getting coached by Fabi 😭

[@petergriffin8767]

@IT guides the only one over 2000 that’s on screen is the FM

[@loganbrion1469]

Fortunately this exchange was made available on KZbin so we may all benefit from Fabi’s insights.

[@heyman373]

Maybe he paid them

[@hellopleychess3190]

why did I waste my time on that

[@hasb826]

Wise words! Thanks. 🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖

[@jefftaylor1186]

They study openings?

[@solitude_kee8986]

Hi i am a chess beginner can u pls give me advice on how to really master chess

[@luiscremonini3635]

A waste of time!!!!!

[@susorzo4342]

maybe to you 1700 rateds but not actual chessplayers

[@heyman373]

He didn't really answer the questions.

[@hellopleychess3190]

he can't dumb himself down enough.. sorry

[@AntoniWroblewski78]

This was fascinating and enlightening. Thank you for this.

[@staceysmith-gd3zv]

As a nobody whos just starting up the why seems important because the opposing team isn't going to always play what's predicted and being strictly analytical is almost trapping yourself if you understand as the opposing force that someone is playing the tactic and not the board and that whites winning because the access to the queen opens up earlier even if it's not played till midgame having that backup can be crucial and if black wanted to open up their queen after a board like this advancing the pawns in this fashion risks breaking up the structure and that a passive attack on the center followed by a flank would be better to otherwise avoid the direct attack but that being said im a nobody trying to learn what I can it can also ve noted that playing the person can also be a good thing something i know is a good thing and yet have extensive trouble bringing to the board

[@elcapitan549]

Ah so we are human afterall.

[@snadowblackmill]

nice

[@zwebzz9685]

A powerful technique all the top memory competitors use is called memory palace. This technique is well suited for memorizing all the specific move orders but like they mentioned the strategic understanding comes separate. Realizing memorizing moves and understanding openings aren’t mutually exclusive is a big step. Many just love the dogma “learn your openings don’t memorize them” when in fact both skills are separately valuable.

[@umidnazarov5725]

You mean Sherlock Holmes thing?

[@abhiramsharma7464]

Its only fictional It doesn't exist irl

[@qrz_7289]

@@abhiramsharma7464 it does exist I use its but pros usually just are memory genius thoo

[@TunaStrata]

I only have appledore.

[@eduardomota3068]

@@umidnazarov5725 yup, actually very usefull to learn simple things, so u can match all the analysis with the position using memory palace but the moves itself u can easily remeber using it, the problem is that there is tons of moves if u consider all variations of openings so a better way is using the memory palace to memorize the themes of the opening: the main ideas and the secondary ideas in case your oponent goes of the main lines, only the ideas like (pawn break in f4 - bishops opening, grunfeld, karo cann sometimes, knight maneuver from b2 to g3 - italian, ...) see?