How Gun Accessories Can Send You to Prison

In this video, James Reeves, an independent program attorney for US LawShield in Louisiana and Mississippi, discusses whether gun accessories can impact your chances of conviction in a self-defense situation. Drawing on real-life cases, including the infamous Daniel Shaver and Nicholas Slatten incidents, James explores how modifications like triggers, lasers, and silencers can influence a jury's perception and potentially lead to harsher sentences. He also provides advice on how to minimize legal risks when using certain firearms and accessories. If you're a gun owner, this is a must-watch to understand how your choices could affect you in a court of law.

[@alphalegionaire]

The fact that the Mesa cop got acquitted and is on lifetime disability (I think) is fucking shameful.

[@2stroke438]

Don't forget the sergeant that was giving all the silly commands and death threats and authorized lethal force there. That weasel retired shortly after the incident and moved to the Philippines to avoid the trial.

[@alphalegionaire]

@@2stroke438 it was all so fucking unnecessary. The guy was laying on the ground and he's being covered by multiple cops with ARs. They could have apprehended him there and called it a day. No one would have died. Instead, the cops were spoiling for a fight.

[@coyote520]

Agreed.

[@lefunnyN1]

@@alphalegionaire 2A advocates love to lick cops boots but seem to not understand that its the cops that are the totalitarian enforcement when the time comes

[@Maverick9k]

You should be pointing that anger towards the officer that was giving the commands.

[@flyingfalcon8999]

The police murdered him and got away with it.

[@762x69]

That case was disgusting, unbelievable

[@henhen9455]

He has a home address

[@highlandrab19]

Dont see what the dust cover had to do with it but the whole thing was stupid if you dont want to die do these impossible silly things

[@nf4833]

One of many murders committed by the Mesa Police Department. That department is one of the most disgusting criminal organizations in this country.

[@dirkbruere]

Trigger happy bullybitch who panicked

[@Hughjaoses8766]

Regardless of that dust cover, that cop murdered that guy

[@Maverick9k]

You're blaming the wrong cop.

[@GunSperg]

@@Maverick9kthey both shouldn’t be above ground

[@gabrielariano8770]

​@Maverick9k by that line of thinking you should blame the guy who called them over a toy. people need to mind their business. an adult man posessing a firearm is not a crime

[@viperdemonz-jenkins]

@@Maverick9k guy with dust cover was the one that killed BB gun groveler. it was murder.

[@BetaBuxDelux]

@@viperdemonz-jenkinsAgreed

[@duckcomando7188]

That cop straight murdered that young man.

[@f308gtb1977]

Exactly right

[@noahnapier4708]

Exactly. Cops sign up for this shit so fear shouldn’t be a defense.

[@Bill308A10]

That man should be in prison

[@Enjoyer.762]

"AR patrol rifle" when used by LEs. "Assault weapons of war" when civilians exercise 2A rights and self-defense.

[@vicv7075]

Remember it’s only illegal or wrong when you do it but that doesn’t apply to pigs.

[@openyoureyez9817]

And the cops have the fun switch

[@stevecohen34]

@@openyoureyez9817no they don’t.

[@satagaming9144]

Reminder, every single argument for gun control boils down to "I think that only the government should have guns."

[@frankmendez8542]

You win.. best comment here bro..

[@House_of_Zodd]

Dust cover or not. That cop is a murderer

[@kmessiah1]

Straight up

[@f308gtb1977]

Yup. He loved every second of that interaction.

[@Bjawae]

The kid obviously never had to do that in his life so short. Not everyone has the muscle discipline to comply. That kid might as well have been an 18 year old in front if a drill instructor that had no idea how to act in shock, nor taken directions. All the cops had to do was sprint like 5 meters and sit on him.

[@Bjawae]

and yet, because they wanted the child to move towards him, instead, the officer both compromised his own safety for dominance, and confused the child, shooting him over a simple misunderstanding.

[@daviscampbell9020]

Damn right.

[@armedrebellion47]

Yeah, that officer murdered that guy, This was disturbing, and he had no business on the force...

[@MozTS]

No he didn’t.

[@Ungood-jl5ep]

@@MozTS yeah, it was more of an execution rather than a garden variety murder.

[@MrWhipple42]

Shaver was also intoxicated, which made it even more difficult for him to follow the needlessly complex instructions he was given. F- that cop and anyone who tries to justify what he did to that poor guy.

[@ethanking4954]

​@@MozTS How is that not murder?

[@The_clips_that_Dip]

@@ethanking4954dudes a moron

[@GriffXJ]

This is why I have "only gay cops seize this gun as evidence" engraved on my slide.

[@joecentral-o9984]

It makes a fantastic sticker for your car... Only gay cops pull me over.

[@d2nasty696]

You'd be surprised how many gay cops there actually are 😂

[@SebastianKrabs]

Jokes on you, they're all gay now

[@crisdlcruz145]

I dont think that will work nowadays everyone is mo

[@davidr1676]

Remember the Village People?

[@williamjeffersonclinton69]

I feel using a suppressor is a humanitarian use device. I am being considerate of everyone else from getting tinnitus when I discharge in an enclosed space. As a veteran. Tinnitus sucks MF'in balls. A suppressor is humane.

[@eddiemclean7011]

Have pulsitive tinnitus yet? The open car door chime? Its a good time.😢

[@ticket2space]

Definitely the attachment choice of a considerate person

[@NotMitch69]

Straight to jail! 😂

[@WDLC1911]

Mandatory 10 years… IF you’re convicted for wrongful death, though. Stupid but true.

[@williamjeffersonclinton69]

@eddiemclean7011 nope. I have a very steady eeeeeeeeeeeee sound, mostly in my left ear. When I am almost asleep, it cranks up to 11.

[@StealthTheUnknown]

Anything can land you in prison if the prosecutor is crafty enough, the judge apathetic enough, and the jury ignorant enough.

[@mcinteer19]

You summed up the entire “justice” system right there.

[@Girth_Brooks01]

I'm guessing I shouldn't get the phrase "Guns don't kill people, I kill people" Etched on my G34.

[@nucleargrizzly1776]

I met a fool in Georgia that had "N-word" Hunter engraved on all his carry guns. Even the most clear cut air tight case of self defense is going to turn into a capital charge.

[@springbloom5940]

Hilarious story. I had a Stuck Mojo shirt with that on the front of it. I was sitting in Denny's with some friends and two cops came in and walked past us. The second one stopped and eyeballed me for about 900,000 years and then says 'You kill people, huh 🤨' I stopped wearing it in public.

[@victordogeman]

Save that for your 10mm hand loads with random sharp edges carved into the projectiles, labeled by yourself in boxes as your proprietary “Direct Impact Energy” rounds, and save yourself a few seconds of labor by just using the acronym. Your DIE rounds with experimental projectile shapes modeled after the example of serrations cutting through jagged stalactites, reproduced in miniature, will show you to be a creative, and a productive, industrious member of society. I’m sure that’s how most prosecutors would see it anyway

[@nickolasthefrog]

I think you stumbled onto a UHF movie quote.

[@travislupum]

​@springbloom5940 police aren't your friends lol their job is to put you in a cage it's literally what they get paid form your taxes to do are gun owners waking up yet ?

[@ced3763]

This cop was clearly a psycho, he had no business speaking this way to a guy he didn't know to be guilty, he had no business giving contradictive instruction. He should go to jail, there is no excuse and no place for this sort of behaviour in the police force.

[@kber6288]

if you mean the Daniel Shaver case, the cop, Brailsford, who shot him was not the one shouting the commands, that was Charles Langley. I think Langley is as guilty as Brailsford as he was putting everyone under more tension than needed with his behavior

[@seethingnuclearchaos]

@@kber6288 And Langley retired, then left the country. Brailsford should have been convicted. He should have been extradited from the Philippines and put on trial. Of course that wasn't going to happen once Brailsford was acquitted. The pair of them belonged in gen pop in a prison for a couple of decades. Brailsford was administratively cleared in a previous excessive force incident in a great example of the thin blue line. So there was nothing to bring up at trial about his propensity for violent overreaction. Brailsford later declared bankruptcy, was reinstated to the Mesa PD, reimbursed for medical expenses for the PTSD he "suffered" as a consequence of murdering Shaver and was then retired on medical disability and given a pension of $2500/month. The city settles with Shaver's parents for $1.5M and his widow for $8M. He cost the taxpayers a lot of money and is continuing to be a leach on the system because cops protect bad cops. This is the sort of situation that makes people hate and distrust police.

[@MattH-wg7ou]

​@@kber6288 then theyre both wrong.

[@MoraleHazard]

@@kber6288 And Langley quietly retired after the murder.

[@seethingnuclearchaos]

@@Jammaster1972 some things you didn't say online in a public forum.

[@andret.1675]

Philip Brailsford should be in prison. That was one of the worst police shootings I've ever seen. He wanted to kill Daniel Shaver.

[@Maverick9k]

I dont think so, he only shot him once shaver reached for his waistband (yes it was to pull up his pants that were falling off but how would Brailsford know that?)

[@shoelessbandit1581]

​@Maverick9k bootlicker. The guy was literally begging for his life and had multiple rifles pointed at him. All they had to do was tell him to lay down and an officer could've handcuffed him

[@josephsneyd4488]

Incredibly bad take. It’s pretty black and white he was in the wrong.

[@clalam5241]

​@@josephsneyd4488someone sitting on the fence is going to see this comment and end up believing fleeing is a better option

[@LaughingMan44]

​@@Maverick9kI don't know if you're monumentally stupid or a disgusting POS

[@akbychoice]

Some juries would convict you, if you threw an empty ammo box at an attacker.

[@Asidebar]

So if you really believe that don't take any chances on doing changes that can bit you in the butt.

[@akbychoice]

@@Asidebar clueless

[@BabaBlueJay]

Just like bumper stickers on cars, I don't put dumb crap on my guns. Nobody thinks it's cool, and it can only cause problems.

[@ericsierra-franco7802]

Smart man!

[@choccolocco]

Definitely speaks to the mindset of an individual. I was taught that guns were tools, not toys, by my pawpaw and dad, and they stressed that when teaching me to shoot and hunt. Too many ppl treat them as toys, and that’s one of the major issues nowadays.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Fun Fact: If you wanna become a serial killer legally, just become a cop.

[@function0077]

A horrific example is Louis Van Schoor, a South African cop and security guard, who murdered a lot of people from 1986 to 1989.

[@juanvaldez5422]

@@function0077plenty of examples here in the states alone . People are sick of it . Walls are going to start closing in on them . Rightly so to

[@joseywales8257]

The Zodiac's own grandson just outed him, he's deceased now, was an undercover cop driving an undercover car, killing while on duty. Yes they knew it all along, no the city, county, state couldn't afford the lawsuits, so they all came up with various rat holes to send prying eyes in other directions

[@ticket2space]

​@@juanvaldez5422no they're not. 95% of the population lives their lives in kneepads in hopes that they'll get better treatment if they need it.

[@f308gtb1977]

@@ticket2spaceunfortunately I think you’re right.

[@pamusso1466]

Ugh, that cop really wanted to kill somebody.

[@rarefruit2320]

Lots of cops are that way. I have a playlist about it

[@brucecook502]

How the hell did that officer get acquitted when that dude was begging for his life and doing everything he was told? You have got to be kidding me, what kind of world do we live in? That was a damn execution unless that dude got up and started charging the officer or pulled a gun out out of nowhere on the officer. Am I missing something here? That seriously just ruined my morning!

[@BirdDogey1]

Mesa PD did all sorts of shady $ behind the scenes to help him.

[@dantauche7917]

I don't recall the details on why they acquitted him but I can tell you when I was watching that case on a true crime video years ago I threw my phone when the decision was announced. Truly Infuriating

[@joecentral-o9984]

​@@dantauche7917that's why I always say..... You're never untouchable.

[@capoeiradude35]

Daniel was the wrong color for the news to care about.

[@111Moose]

Maybe we should “peacefully protest” like the other side does. Seems to work for them. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@vincenthernandez2242]

If you have the punisher logo anywhere on your gun, vehicle, phone, etc you should be sentenced to life for the crime of extreme cringe

[@bobdobalina2493]

Blows my mind it's mandatory 30 yrs for a suppressor??!! That is insane!!

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

I am pretty sure that some states allow suppressors, as they are not the masterpieces Hollywood portrays

[@lefunnyN1]

how did that commando larping cop not get a life in prison, its crazy that this criminal is still free

[@ethanking4954]

For real total psycho

[@Steamrunner]

Because the prosecutor, after having his masturbation fantasy cock blocked by the judge, decided not to be fully dedicated to the case.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

immunity

[@jormungand72]

family connections.

[@DocMitchell69]

Cops have always gotten away with murder. Thank the politicians for granting them protections and privileges

[@ST-zm3lm]

The whole notion that you’re not supposed to use the most effective equipment possible when your life may depend on it is so ass-backwards. Our legal system is so pants-on-head moronic it’s no longer even valid.

[@gifthorse3675]

It really seems like no matter how justified you will go to prison

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

“Your Honor, the fact that the defendant had an optic on his firearm demonstrates, without a shadow of doubt, that he indeed, intended to hit his target.”

[@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER]

no government in all of history, the present, or the future, could ever be valid. the only valid government, is the one that dosnt exist. anarchy is the ONLY valid option.

[@FiveFive6Guy]

Preach

[@itsapittie]

@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 Joking aside, I think it's only a matter of time before some DA makes the argument that the defendant used an optic to increase the lethality of his/her firearm.

[@MikeInOregon]

“What are you in for?” - New Cellmate. “Bell Delphine grips on my 1911.” - Coolest dude in prison. 🤣

[@Raccoonactual]

It's even better than that. It's a Tokarev in the thumbnail. Kinda fitting that considering her picture is on the grips of a communist made pistol. They're "our" grips now Ivan.

[@intergalacticchicano]

I rather be carried by 6, than judged by 12 because I know how corrupt and inept the court systems are, I rather not spend the rest of my life caged in a prison like an animal.

[@f308gtb1977]

@@intergalacticchicano you make a good point worth seriously considering.

[@jonlee3081]

When I was in prison, one of the lessons I learned from jailhouse lawyers was, if you are innocent, go with a bench trial. If you are guilty, go with a jury trial, you never know what a stupid jury is going to do. That cop in the first video that got away with murder proves this lesson.

[@luislongoria6621]

Law library convicts do more than license plates. More like identity theft

[@payne540]

That cop should be in prison. WTF

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

Sometimes the jury pulls and oj

[@darthmartinez]

That cop made it impossible for the suspect to make any move without being shot. I wouldn’t know what to do.

[@weirdolay]

he didnt shoot him until he reached behind his back, which they specifically told him not to do

[@ethanking4954]

He was pulling up his pants after the cop told him to crawl on his belly. I can't believe you'd justify the cops actions

[@weirdolay]

@@ethanking4954 if a cop pointing a rifle at you tells you not to put your hands behind your back, you think it makes sense to reach back and pull your pants up?

[@redtra236]

@@weirdolay Those boots must taste good

[@GK-mr9ko]

@@weirdolaythe cop can clearly tell he’s dealing with a nonviolent drunk guy who is complying with him, or trying at the the very least. Don’t choke on that boot

[@JackManiacky]

Any cop with that stuff on their gun should not just be checked. They should not be cops.

[@otm646]

I'm amazed that departments allow for any modifications.

[@Enjoyer.762]

@otm646 civilians are viewed as enemies of the state

[@shizukaryujoukai2465]

Most cops shouldn't be cops...

[@mostpopularpresidentever]

@@otm646 the dept my wife and I worked for would allow them but only after they got the green light from upper management and the armorer

[@radchad992]

@@otm646nah most cheap ar’s have a lot of easy upgrades

[@TexanApollyon]

Up next from our courts: how a bull bar on your truck proves your violent intent.

[@Peacekeeper01A]

What if I wrap it in pool noodles and tape them in place? You know, padded for safety reasons!

[@xPumaFangx]

Na man, that won't do anything to you in court. Truck nuts. I will add ten years if you got truck nuts.

[@themightycrixus1131]

Thank you for covering Daniel Shaver's murder. Not enough people know about the case.

[@Zakhev342]

I fucking hate our justice system. a lot

[@gifthorse3675]

“System” not justice system

[@oz_jones]

@@gifthorse3675 Legal system, not justice system.

[@mostpopularpresidentever]

I was pro blue until i worked for our local sheriffs dept , now i wouldn't trust LE if my life depended on it

[@a_guy_named_kevin]

@@oz_jones Nah, he's right, you should hate both the legal system and the justice system. The "jUsTiCe SyStEm" lets kiddy diddlers walk with bare minimum sentences and slaps on the wrist most of the time. It's just as fucked.

[@markdriscoll9232]

I hate the entirety of our government!!!!!

[@iranpagan]

RIP Paul Harrell

[@vonleiningen]

RIP Daniel Shaver

[@gokhancinar7096]

@@vonleiningen Who is Paul Harell, you don't even know that, do you?

[@luislongoria6621]

​@@gokhancinar7096 Airgunner Fudd who blasts good bone-in steaks

[@ticket2space]

​@@gokhancinar7096he's not the guy in the video being killed silly. You're out of line here

[@gokhancinar7096]

@@ticket2space I just wanted to criticize the lack of intelligence in giving a RIP for someone completely unrelated as soon as someone else is mentioned. But you don't seem to have the capacity to understand that. Protein deficiency negatively affects brain development. Calling someone you don't know 'silly' is also a sign of your lack of education. I excuse this, as we are not all created equal

[@davetremaine9688]

Suppressors in movies have done more for their vilification than anything else

[@Clearanceman2]

Yeah, imagine a hearing protection device being considered unusual and unusually dangerous. Ridiculous.

[@Treblaine]

Every suppressed firearm other than a .22 is so loud they are an OSHA violation.

[@harpsitardo]

Yeah, THAT'S why they were invented. For hearing protection. ​@@Clearanceman2

[@CristianNazare]

Suppressors should be banned and considered illegal. If you use your weapon for protection, firing it also alerts other people about you being in danger. Silencers are the opposite. Keep them illegal.

[@gifthorse3675]

^ Wow spoken like a true moron

[@Andrew-ps6xe]

The prosecutor is going to attack your equipment no matter what. It's their job. FMJs? - Military grade! Hollowpoints? - Deadlier than the military! Same ammo as police? - Vigilante! Red dot? - Deadlier than irons! Irons? - Doesn't care about missing! Holster? - Pre-planned being armed! No holster? - Planned to ditch gun! Open carry? - Intimidation! Conceal carry? - Hiding intent!

[@HGRAP1]

They’ll use everything and anything against you. You can have a fairly normal collection (shotgun, AR, concealed carry pistol, full sized pistol, and a hunting rifle, and a total of 1K rounds in total) and they’ll say you are a “crazed person with a whole arsenal ready to go”

[@Asidebar]

That's why you have to be extra careful and if ever charged get a great attorney

[@YaBoiZackbannedmefordissent]

There's a meme I wish I could find again that shows what "several handguns and 1000 rounds of ammo" looks like in the mind of a normie vs reality, with the first picture being the "We need guns" scene from The Matrix and the second picture being, well, reality.

[@scotsasnett]

That cop should be in prison

[@johnniecameron8829]

Iam more afraid of the law ,than a gang .....people get screwed in court everyday..

[@gifthorse3675]

Yeah this country is done

[@111Moose]

100% If I smoke a banger that’s comin’ at me, I go home. If I smoke a cop that’s comin’ at me, I go on trial. I’d definitely rather deal with bangers.

[@peepeepoopoo42069]

Government rarely finds fault with government. System isn't broken; it was rigged from the start!

[@haveaday1812]

That’s why they say: if you’re guilty, get a lawyer. If you’re innocent, get two.

[@_Delta_P_]

Same here. I have 0 fear of criminals. But these insane DAs are out of control

[@justanotherinternetexpert7743]

The first one, with the guy crawling down the hall, makes me sick every time I see it. That cop(Brailsford)murdered that man and the jury let him off, pissed me off so much when that happened....Even the other cops at the scene that did NOT shoot said he had no reason to shoot the guy.

[@IceNinja2007]

And they'll keep getting away with murder until Terry vs. Ohio is overturned...

[@openphoto]

The dept fired him, and then temporarily hired him back so he could be treated for the ptsd he gave himself. This enabled him to retire permanently and collect 2500 a month for life. After the trial more video of him beating on some innocent teens surfaced, in addition to another case involving improper use of force.

[@brutesquadbbq2268]

That was an execution

[@MrWhipple42]

Amen.

[@_XR40_]

"...Unfairly prejudicial..." Prejudicial, certainly, but unfairly? Not at all. Evidence of any kind is prejudicial by nature - That is it's purpose. Any such ruling is an abrogation of justice.

[@monkeyna601]

Imagine constitutionally protected rights being actually protected instead of used to abuse and use the citizens they are suppose to protect. imagine it.

[@protoman1214]

I remember that shooting in the hallway. The guy was completely panicking and kept reaching to his waistband to pick up his shorts. Any person with a brain could see he wasn’t a threat. All they had to do was have him lay on the floor and arrest him

[@kendelvalle8299]

I once represented a defendant charged with murder. It was a road rage incident. After having been stabbed twice with a small pocket knife, my client pulled out his T-shaped dagger and stabbed the deceased once in the carotid artery. During closing, the prosecutor held up the T dagger. He made it sound like only a crazed Assassin would carry such a self-defense weapon. The jury took a very long time coming back with a not guilty. I talked to a couple of the jury members and found out that the delay had been over the two inch T dagger. Chicago. Mid 1980’s.

[@jarethpalmer8672]

Just out of curiosity did your defendant leave his car. And was there any video of the altercation just curious what you think led to charges and such a zelious prosecution for what sounds like clear self defense?

[@disturbedlife5691]

As a knife collector....this terrifies me. At this moment I'm covered in blades. A Leatherman wave, a Spyderco lady bug, a Bastinelli bb Drago....and the "scary one", a Microtech Combat Troodon Bowie

[@richardbobb1878]

The fact that the NRA the National Rifle Association changed its View to a more radical View of the second amendment in the year 1970. If you listen to the recent video on KZbin concerning the latest Omnibus gun control act worked on, they bring up every mass shooting event that ever occurred in history. Except for ONE "mass shooting" got no mention. What is this "mass shooting" that the government doesn't even want to talk about. What is this event that in 1970 rocked the boat of the National Rifle Association, and caused every second amendment organization to literally "freak out" in the year 1970. On May 4th 1970 members of the Ohio National Guard fired into a crowd of Kent State University demonstrators killing four, and wounding nine Kent State students. The impact of the shooting was dramatic. The event triggered a national wide student strike, that forced hundreds of colleges and universities to close. I find it sadly ironic that the demonstrators were demonstrating their displeasure over the war in Vietnam in general and the bombing in Cambodia in particular, carried out by President Nixon. War is a "mass shooting" on a major scale ! . As for the Second Amendment as currently written, I have some serious issues with it. It is poorly written, it is so poorly written and confusing that it must be reinterpreted by the Supreme Court. It does not explicitly say anything about self-defense. This has inspired me to write my new and improved version of the Second Amendment. I have named my new version. Second Amendment 2.1 In order to maintain the blessings of liberty and freedom throughout the land.The pre-existing natural right of the individual to self-defense, shall always be upheld and protected. The right to manufacture, keep and bear arms ammunition, and parts and accessories for arms, will not be infringed or impeded. By any law or mandate, by either the states, or the federal government. A free market being necessary for a free people.The right to manufacture arms for sale, including, ammunition and accessories, for arms, will not be infringed or impeded. By any law or mandate. By the federal government, or the state's governments. This includes both carrying for an individual, or carrying for a company, for trade or sale in another state. Or any city or town, within a state. For any other moral reason. Uninfringed or impeded by law or mandate. And there you have it my new and improved version of the Second Amendment 2.1 and for further Clarity, let me explain the term "pre-existing natural right of self-defense". The Second Amendment to the Constitution was adopted December 15th 1791. The concept of self-defense was created and adopted after the Norman conquest of England in 1066. Coming back up through time back to 1970 and the mass shooting event at Kent State University there was a famous rock and roll band called Crosby Stills Nash & Young they made a song called "Ohio". Previous to their song was the song written and produced,1964, by a young Native Canadian singer-songwriter, Buffy Sainte-Marie, The universal Soldier. I consider her song. The Best anti-war Song Ever written by a human being on this planet. It is my most sincere hope that my version of the Second Amendment 2.1 will one day be recognized as being the best Second Amendment ever re-written, and adopted into law. Also I highly recommend the following books, Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand, Adventures in Legal Land, by Marc Stevens. Government Indicted, by Mark Stevens, Freedom from Government by Trent Goodbaudy, And Natural Law, by Lysander Spooner. :-)

[@009013M3]

Sounds like Chicago alright. The state has a castle doctrine on the books but we have plenty of records of people being convicted for failing to retreat from an invader in their own home.

[@Germfish]

@@disturbedlife5691 There's no reason to be carrying so many knives bro lol. Especially a fixed blade bowie. And I like knives and collect them. What is your justification going to be for carrying all that non sense.

[@alexanderluster402]

As a law abiding citizen with scary attachments like a suppressor on my rifle, I don't want accessories to be admitted as evidence in general. However, I really wish that "you're fucked" dust cover had been admitted.

[@InquisitorJack]

Wasn’t necessary, cop clearly used a psychotic game of Simon Says to create pretext to execute the guy.

[@czwarty7878]

It shouldn't honestly matter that cop murdered a person and it was all on camera. That should be more than enough to send him to jail for very, very long time. The dust cover changes nothing here. The acquital was a farce and the fact that other people get sentences multiplied for stupid crap like having laser pointer at home makes it even more infuriating. Law has nothing to do with justice, not anymore

[@Molon_Labe1776]

It would have been if it was you or me.

[@ticket2space]

Because a suppressor doesn't indicate aggression

[@InquisitorJack]

@@ticket2space It does indicate concern for one’s hearing, especially if one might be concerned about not having sufficient time to put on hearing protection prior to having to discharge a firearm.

[@PerfectTangent]

All my guns are a non-violent pink color.

[@bintjbeil7892]

I was literally contemplating this 😂

[@nickolasthefrog]

Tennessee Arms lower and Hogue furniture will get you part of the way to pink bliss.

[@StagFabulous]

All my guns are a non-pink violent color. Oh well, jail's just a place.

[@popupheadlights]

Pink with wooden furniture lmao

[@DocMitchell69]

Looks like a toy, straight to jail.

[@CeltKnight]

Retired LEO here: Stuff like the Mesa officer's dust cover have an appeal to the "Hur! Hur! Rah! Rah!" dudes but just like their other toys and "statements of individuality" they should be aggressively discouraged by leadership. This is especially true in today's environment. Now, that said, back in my early uniform days when pepper spray was all the rage, I re-labeled mine "Whoop Ass" and often pulled it out, showing my marker-enhanced label and said, "Don't make me open this." I got more violent offenders to submit doing that than I ever got actually spraying them. LOL ... but today ... hell, before I got promoted to detective in the late '90s I took that crap off. A jury trial is a circus. Most of the folks there don't wanna be there and your fate is in the hands of the 12 people who were too dumb to figure out how to get out of jury duty AND most of them probably associate you with "Ticket Ted" who wrote everyone including his mother chickenpoop tickets. Not a very favorable environment.

[@deusvult6632]

Never speak to government agents regardless if you think they're playing it straight with you, and always let your attorney do the talking for you if you are involved in a defensive encounter. Everything you say will be isconstrued and used against you in a court of law. The only fish that ever get caught are the ones who open their mouths.

[@TheHanshotfirst]

Imagine going to court with one of those Trump Glocks? God bless.

[@dylanchristoff3830]

GOBBLESS

[@joecentral-o9984]

​@@dylanchristoff3830you SOB.... GOBBLESSS

[@Dylan.More-Veiny]

The gold plated trump 1911

[@DocMitchell69]

Imagine even owning one. 🤢

[@activatewindows]

@@DocMitchell69 Beat me to it.

[@colinm4792]

I can’t publicly say how extreme I feel Brailsford’s “reward” should be for his actions. I still cannot believe the judge threw out the dust cover. Appalling.

[@Steamrunner]

I am going to disagree. An accessory shouldn't be justification as intent. The prosecution, had they been interested in a conviction instead of mere pandering to the brief outrage (knowing it wouldn't last because the media wasn't causing enough outrage like other incidences because the victim was the wrong skin color), could've gotten plenty of people to speak about the officer's character, anything he's said or done in the past. I'd be willing to bet there were previous reports of behavior or another officer heard him say something that showed future intent. But let's say none of that existed, that he was as squeaky clean as a freshly washed Hillary Clinton, and nothing showed up in his past. The body camera footage alone showed he murdered the individual. If anything, it should've been a manslaughter charge, but in my opinion it was second degree murder. I feel the prosecution had no heart in pursuing the case.

[@colinm4792]

@@Steamrunner totally fair take on the facts presented. This case happened while I was in law school and I paid very close attention to it during the trial, as well as afterwards. You’re dead on about Brailsford’s previous conduct, and disciplinary record. His father was also involved in the local or state government iirc. He’s now on a forever paid vacation, funded by the local taxpayer of course, because his PTSD from this event doesn’t allow him to continue to work.

[@mikeangel858]

Yeah it's almost like government employee A was protecting government employee B from government employee C, who wasn't really interested in holding government employee B accountable in the first place. But surely something like that would never happen. I'm sure a non-government tax chattel would have received the same consideration from government employee A in a similar situation.

[@colinm4792]

@@mikeangel858 nailed it.

[@jm-jn9xe]

@@colinm4792 He has an address.

[@AT-xr8qh]

But for those pistol grips in the thumbnail, prison may be deserved

[@Sig_P229]

California. Only a AR15 has heat seeking missiles. A mini 14 could never harm anyone.

[@jmmywyf4lyf]

😂

[@Clearanceman2]

And you're making a joke but some prosecutors are so ignorant about guns that they probably won't understand.

[@travislupum]

Sometimes people do weird things with their freedom

[@laserbrain7774]

Belle Delphine before she got big fake tiddies.

[@OmarEwert]

I love when lawyers say I’m not your lawyer this is not legal advice, right after telling me things that only a lawyer would be able to proficiently look up. No shade, it’s just funny to me

[@randominternetprofile8270]

Funny indeed, but we're surrounded by idiots, especially in the gun community. CYA clauses are unfortunately necessary *guy in court "But James at TFBTV said otherwise" Next thing you know, James is now forced to testify

[@cupojoe4769]

We live in the days of 100 rounds being "an arsenal". If you have a shotgun, you want to murder with one shot. If you have an AR, you're a delusional COD fanboy/ school shooter. If you have a wood-stocked 30-30 with a scope, you must want to be a sniper. A glock? You think you're a cop and want to take the law into your own hands or you're a gangster. Even using basic defense ammo is proof: "This ammo isn't even allowed in war zones!!!" I'm not advocating for people to make poor choices about decorating their firearms. Just know that sometimes it has less to do with what you do and how you do it, and more to do with it where you are and who lives/governs there.

[@mikewallace8087]

Bailsford was allowed to come back to work , then was evaluated to have PTSD because of the shooting , given an on duty causation for medical causes then given a $ 31,000 /year pension and enjoy life.

[@glockdude5472]

Disgusting

[@Asatru793]

@@glockdude5472- very disgusting. Needs to be in prison

[@juanvaldez5422]

He needs to be dealt with by street justice

[@solomongrundy9735]

How TF can a laser make things worse? That would keep you from hitting an innocent bystander!

[@JamesReeves]

If you have a dumb prosecutor and a dumb defense attorney then there's a good chance it will be used against you.

[@brutesquadbbq2268]

Same as using hollow point ammo shows you intended to murder, not defend yourself

[@deebee4575]

It doesn't have to make sense, it only has to scare a jury.

[@hourbee5535]

Anything can be used against you in court.

[@hershlawfirmpc]

@@JamesReevesif you have a dumb defense attorney defending you that’s on you

[@francostacy7675]

Why did the cop get a break that I wouldn’t get? That is BS

[@litmanw]

Because he’s a dirty cop with qualified immunity. It’s a literal get out of jail free card.

[@Sleepy731]

Qualified immunity

[@luislongoria6621]

CTE? PTSD? I don't see enough beefcake from a headshot for tren

[@gingerd4321]

So the law states “ having interest in buying a silencer suggests an unlawful use as part of a criminal plan” and that “a person probably would not be interested in buying a silencer if they intend to use for self defense”!!! That is crazy!! So as a lawful gun enthusiast if god forbid we ever had to use a firearm in self defense, even if you didn’t use it during self-defense scenario that suppressor can be used against you regardless????

[@ericsierra-franco7802]

Yes. Life isn't fair.

[@Visual217]

All I keep hearing is that it's a roll of the dice based on the facts of the shooting as well as the ignorance/prejudice/stupidity of the prosection, jury & the judge.

[@autoteleology]

Do you think they'll still show my tacticool rifle in the courtroom if I get "jury nullification" engraved on the side of it lol

[@aevangel1]

*^^THIS^^* 😂🤣😂🤣

[@Enjoyer.762]

@@autoteleology Juries are trustworthy either.

[@colbunkmust]

@@Enjoyer.762 The joke is the evidence wouldn't be able to be shown at all because attorneys aren't allowed to discuss jury nullification to the jury, thereby nullifying the danger of "scary" accessories.

[@scottwatrous]

Get that engraved on your carry pistol while you're at it.

[@Dave-0]

I suppose I’ll remove the M-LOK mounted self-inflating blowup doll from my HD weapon 😢

[@gregthomson7516]

That turns it in to a sexual assault rifle.

[@ROOSTER333]

Better fvcking not

[@hookeaires6637]

You too, huh? I don’t feel so cool anymore.

[@bombfog1]

How about the length of the shorts I’m wearing during a self defense situation? Does that matter?

[@miguelambriz9109]

Balling shorts,believe it or not. Straight to jail 😂

[@tinfoil6246]

Got to be careful what you wear picking up weed at the post office.

[@elucky3fortune130]

Each visible knee is another 5 years mandatory. People's knees are gross.🤢

[@hookeaires6637]

Probably depends of the length of other things…

[@thomasbrand2650]

Ranger panties? Straight to jail.

[@louvin44]

James, thanks for making this video, it's desperately needed. I'm a retired LEO supervisor and reluctant field trainer from one of the major metropolitan police departments. I had this conversation thirty years ago. Guys seem to be more interested in impressing their buddies in the locker room than employing good sense and tactics. Another issue that I've discussed is, not posting self incriminating photos of yourself on social media or getting psyco tattoos. Yeah, I got it, you're free to self express, but remember people are going to make decisions about your character based on visual representations.

[@gregawallace]

Yep, I run suppressors and heavily modified or custom rifles pistols and shotguns for 3 gun competitions/ targets shooting etc. spent tens of thousands on them load all my own ammo for them. My home defense gun is a stock 870 with a wood stock with store bought ammo says self defense on the box. My carry gun is a stock gen 3 Glock 17 with store bought ammo that says self defense on the box.

[@MrCentavo]

As a federal law enforcement officer of 30 years and one has has testified in fed, state and local court hundreds of times, I can tell you defense attorney's or prosecutors will go after absolutely anything they need to in order to paint you a psychopath. I've seen them hone in on tattoo's, knives officers carry (with a skull engraved) even though they weren't used, social media posts (HUGE these days), firearms accessories (like highlighted here), ex-spouse testimonies, even cowboy hats. I've even seen a defense attorney highlight the fact that an office had two rottweilers with spiked collars (they had gone by his house). It never ends....Ona side note, in AZ video used here...IMO that was 100% murder.

[@fishboy491]

On the issue of Punisher stuff on Law Enforcement gear. Why?? They do know that the Punisher was vehemently anti law enforcement?

[@DocMitchell69]

I think it’s more a case of, “I want to do what the punisher does to anyone I don’t like, but am legally able to get away with it.”

[@rustknuckleirongut8107]

Its all about the story. If you as a gun owner get caught in a self defense situation and have been publicly worshiping guns and been playing at being John Wick at the range, then it is easy to tell that story to the jury in an unfavorable light. Dear jury the defendant spent years refining the tools needed for this crime, he researched the best holster for hiding and drawing his gun, he assembled parts to make the gun hold more rounds and be quicker too shoot. Not only this, the defendant would go weekly to the range and practice something called bill drills and mozambique drills where you basically train to commit murder by either shooting six shots as fast as you can into a human shaped target or shooting two shots to the body before you finish with a shot to the head. On top of this the defendant was using ammunition that by several third party reviewers call the most destructive bullet you can fire from a 9 mm. The defendant drove around with two extra magazines of this in his car incase the 20 rounds in his pistol did not cause enough mayhem and murder. The defendant also watched hours of so called guntubers every week on youtube, watching them test the destructive capabilities the defendant would later unleash on his victim. Watching and learning. So the question here is: Is this a man that just happened to get into a bad situation where he was forced to shoot an unarmed man, or did this man go searching for a situation where he could live out the gun fantasy in his head on an innocent victim? The behavior prior to the incident must carry some weight and we ask you to look at the evidence and make your own decision about the tragic facts laid before you.

[@kypparmstrong2775]

Imagine having your home invaded and you're digging through your gun safe, tossing guns aside, nope suppressed, nope trigger job, nope barrel too short, nope punisher sticker, nope weird ammo, ahh here we are! Granddads .38spl with lead round nose bullets.

[@jc51373]

this guy is the best. If you're a casual gun owner, range shooter who wants a home defense firearm you need to be watching James regularly.

[@la_sn3ak3r19]

No national outrage or media outrage when Daniel was unalived. No wall to wall funeral broadcast for Daniel. But guess who got all of the above?

[@la_sn3ak3r19]

Hint: Fentanyl

[@MedicalTape_xX]

It was national news do you not remember it?

[@Fractal_blip]

​@@la_sn3ak3r19the good reverend Doctor g. lloyd

[@la_sn3ak3r19]

@@MedicalTape_xX comparing Daniel’s coverage to fentanyl is not even close. Did cnn and MSNBC air Daniel’s funeral service????

[@ROOSTER333]

A banana eating dope head that pointed guns at pregnant women?

[@boomstickman71]

I've been telling people this for 20 years. Some ignorant people in gun groups have mocked the idea that having a Punisher logo on your gun can make any difference in court.

[@Steamrunner]

I don't think it should make a difference in court but the sad reality is it does. It is the main reason why my carry/home defense guns are bone stock. No "threatening" accessories, no laser etching, no rattle can paint job, no enhanced trigger. They are as I got them from the the FFL. My range toys aren't held to the same standard, which means a hyperzealous prosecutor might try to use that as an excuse. They'd also use how much ammo I own too (even if most of it is 22LR).

[@KirkFickert]

When you’ve brought this up online it’s always “Fudd Lore”. Still to this day even when you vote cases and case law.

[@francostacy7675]

I’ve been saying the same thing about the Targets we shoot. They can be squares or triangles or a bullseye…. But I suggest don’t shoot targets that are in the silhouette of a human. It shouldn’t make a difference, but it does.

[@ericsierra-franco7802]

They're clueless. Massad Ayoob has been taking about this since at least the 90's and perhaps earlier.

[@jonathansmith7306]

Several states now have Cringe laws, so if you have punisher skulls on your gun, you can catch additional charges

[@LightEaterGroup]

Which ones? First I have heard of this.

[@John.Angell]

I'm going to write a letter to Texas attorney general Ken Paxton and demand cringe laws be enstated in Texas, although it will probably put 25% of out population in prison. I've seen some ridiculous shit at gun shows.

[@spencerhanni6984]

You should catch additional charges for using Punisher skulls. So cringe lol

[@bengorbachev9875]

That seems like a first amendment issue

[@ethanking4954]

​@@LightEaterGroup 😂😂😂

[@craigthescott5074]

Personally a 12 guage shot gun is your best home defense weapon, multiple ammo choices, everybody has one and it’s not an “assault weapon” I was a street cop for 33 years in AZ, the Mesa cop was guilty of murder in my opinion, I was placed In this position hundreds of times including when I was a rifle operator and I never shot anybody. I recently pulled out a double barreled 12 guage that I keep in my garage loaded when my tenant, that I’m evicting, drove on my personal residential property to personally serve me with an order of harassment in a vehicle I didn’t recognize. The Judge found in my favor that I had the right to a show of lethal force on my property, and quashed the order of harassment, If it was my AR15 I’m not sure he would have ruled that way.

[@clintonellyson9675]

You not only have to be right, but you have to appear to be right.

[@elmeramuro]

he murdered a man for showing friends a pellet gun in a hotel room. why are you acting like the dust cover mattered, he murdered the man

[@larryfisherman6449]

You are actually dumb.

[@redtra236]

It was brought up in the case but he somehow got acquitted on self defense anyways which is insane

[@luislongoria6621]

The man had the same logo on a pellet gun and he got jealous

[@elmeramuro]

@@redtra236 I suppose it's precedent that could be used if someone else has a dumb dust cover or sticker on their rifle

[@GrumpyGenXGramps]

Our laws are SCREWED UP!!

[@deebee4575]

It's not laws he's talking about. It's perceptions a jury may have when a dirty prosecutor brainwashes them.

[@gifthorse3675]

The country is

[@peepeepoopoo42069]

They were made that way!

[@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames]

So... don't put my Bad Dragon in place of the bayonet?

[@gifthorse3675]

Their fleshlights are great for covering buffer tubes

[@127AFS]

I can understand not putting stupid bumper stickers on your weapon as well as trying to avoid using ammo with dumb names if possible. But I can't accept villainizing someone just because they added something that improves the functionality of their self defense tool. (better trigger, red dot, etc.) To me, having a more accurate weapon system is a way of exercising more responsibility for the safety of innocent bystanders, not less. I am especially irritated with laser sights being demonized. As someone who wears corrective lenses and who is far sighted, lasers are extremely useful to me if something were to go bump in the night. Obviously, taking time to put on my contacts is ridiculous if there's an imminent threat. Fumbling to for my glasses in the dark MIGHT not be a much better situation either. There's never a guarantee I will find them and put them on quickly enough. How about if I'm out and about during the daytime and I end up in a situation where my glasses are broken or knocked off for some reason? Day or night, as long as I have good enough lighting, I can always reliably ID a threat without my corrective lenses. However, without my corrective lenses, iron sights and even red dots become blurry blobs because they are close to me. The only way I'm going to hit an identified threat accurately without my corrective lenses is with a laser sight. Excuse me for not wanting to miss my target by a mile and hurt a loved one or innocent bystander that I didn't intend to. If some anti-justice, anti-2A prosecutor is going to send me to prison because I used a laser on my firearm that happened to make me and my family safer, then so be it. Better to be judged unfairly by 12 then me or my family to be carried by 6 to the deep 6.

[@SpaceCowboyAZ48]

So basically, dont defend yourself.

[@sirrogerjalbert]

Cops: anyone open carrying is a threat Also cops: "you're f*cked💀💀"

[@TheSpacersChoiceShill]

My take away these days is the best defense in court is being a police officer in a Republican state or an illegal immigrant in a Democrat state. Basically be one of their favorites.

[@sorenottomybuddy]

My thoughts exactly...if he were a regular citizen, the dust cover would've definitely been held against him.

[@klown463]

Yes, that’s the key. Not many Americans are willing to acknowledge this country revolves around identity.

[@gooutsideeveryday2017]

In other words, there's no chance to be judged by peers.

[@linkl_6641]

No way lmao. Don’t be an immigrant if you even want to OWN a gun in Cali. Who do you think the cops and DA are, the hippies? No, they’re the boot.

[@pranc236]

The ammo thing in self defense is so stupid. How about the person doesnt commit crimes to make me have to defend myself. 🤷‍♂️

[@michaeldavis5538]

Only ignorant citizens of America would respect/support ANY law enforcement. Find yourself in the young man who's crawling shoes JUST 1 SINGLE TIME, then let's hear your experience. Because until then, it's just YOUR single OPINION!

[@thrashed22]

I never even thought about this subject. You just made me completely rethink my home defense situation vs a fun toy I take to the range. It won't be the same thing.

[@Liberty_Crux]

This is why my CCW instructor, and I agree, you carry and use your dumbed down less expensive firearms because they will be taken from you first and bling brings unwanted scrutiny.

[@sterlingmoore4798]

Great argument for carrying a low-tier glock.

[@gifthorse3675]

I guess that makes sense but it seems like using anything modern will be used against you

[@Liberty_Crux]

@@gifthorse3675 it's also do you want the cops to steal your $300 gun or your $800 to $1,500 gun. I'm suing a Sheriff’s Office in federal Court to get mine back and it's been 3 years. 2 years after being exonerated. They don't care.

[@HGRAP1]

But then the prosecution will say you purposely got a “Saturday night special” since you expected to use it and it be taken from you…

[@Liberty_Crux]

@@HGRAP1 that's not what I said, at all. Saturday Night Specials are effectively compact, low caliber, inexpensive handguns for rheir concealability. Compact to subcompact in todays terms. There are no "Saturday Night Special" long guns and a basic Glock or otherwise unmodified full frame size pistol is not a Saturday Night Special. Even a HiPoint doesn't qualify. The 70s aren't dominating the Courts anymore.

[@unknownhours]

You should go to jail for longer if have a punisher skull on your gun.

[@JamesReeves]

Just go to jail, period.

[@bintjbeil7892]

Or zombie survivor decals...

[@Sig_P229]

This was actually on a police officer’s pistol and the civil plaintiff tried to enter it as evidence but the judge said it was inadmissible.

[@unknownhours]

@@Sig_P229 But seriously, the Punisher is vigilante who does very willing to extort, torture, and murder to achieve his goals. He is not justice, he is vengeance. And he kills cops. It is always inappropriate for law enforcement to use that logo.

[@Sig_P229]

@@unknownhours probably true ,but I was a former cop and I didn’t know that. Chances are the jury wouldn’t either. He could have said he didn’t know either or it’s a cool looking piece. Plus it’s too prejudicial and probably the least important factor when trying to show intent in a wrongful death shooting. No, it wasn’t me btw. Lol

[@M81_WOODLAND]

Fun fact: Philip “Mitch” Brailsford was acquitted from the trial (surprise, surprise) and is receiving a "medically retired" pension for "PTSD."

[@nochannel1q2321]

Specifically from this incident and the consequences he faced personally as a result of having murdered that guy. He also was so confident that he wouldn't be prosecuted that as soon as he was released from any custody he fled the US.

[@kevenappleyard9813]

Im a retired LEO (21 yrs in USMC and 20 yrs as a deputy sheriff) and held many people at gunpoint. It's like walking a tightrope between officer safety and judicious use of force. Scary. What's also scary is the political lens that you will be judged by. Everything will be brought to bare. What you say before, during, and after can be used against you. Taking a life is traumatic, regardless of the situation. Think before you act. Perserving life (including your own) is the number one priority. Time is on your side.

[@RPG_RicePaddyGod]

That Mesa cop proves they’re rarely ever held accountable for crimes that anyone else would get the hammer.

[@PracticalTacticalFedeli]

This video has further deteriorated my trust in our justice system

[@Zakhev342]

Same.

[@gifthorse3675]

There is no justice

[@Enjoyer.762]

@@PracticalTacticalFedeli you should have nothing but cynicism and contempt for the regime.

[@PracticalTacticalFedeli]

@@Enjoyer.762 that’s basically all that is left

[@John.Angell]

In all seriousness though, this sucks. I tricked out my CZ Scorpion Evo 3 with a holographic sight, a 2 lb trigger, suppressor (because if I fire it in self defense it will be in a long, narrow hall) and fancy red aluminum mag release, trigger and AK style safety so my artistic wife would think it was cute and wanted to shoot it. Guess I'll call this rig the, "I want to die in Cell Block D Special".

[@TarnaxTheBarbarian]

Nice! I did similar stuff to mine. There's nothing cringe on it, bit there's nothing wrong with having a good looking gun.

[@colbunkmust]

I feel like the "my wife thought it was cute" excuse might actually get you out of trouble on that. 🤔😂 What's the prosecutor going to respond to that with?

[@linkl_6641]

Dude don’t stop using that. This guy is talking out of his ass about this, if you have a half-decent lawyer these things never even go to trial. DO NOT listen to this man’s advice about the LAW. He knows his stuff about guns and carrying A CZ scorpion with gear that **THOUSANDS** of people also have on it is not unreasonable, and it’s not anything like “Get fucked”

[@littleboss6970]

You should make a video about jury selection and venue. People need to understand that matters more than the gun itself. All of this talk may be moot if such a situation happens in rural Arkansas but definitely applies in your average metro city where people dislike guns in general

[@Enjoyer.762]

@littleboss6970 metro cities where the population, including Whites, are antiwhite and anti-self-defense.

[@MAZEMIND]

Pro Tip: They can not arrest you if you just start blasting o/

[@andrewstoll4548]

The first story, That officer should have gone to prison for a long time. He never should have been in law enforcement.

[@Elias-cg7uq]

I've really been appreciating all the legal content you have been posting. This is very useful information to know.

[@JamesReeves]

Glad you like them!

[@skipcox2067]

James, I live in Mississippi and am a member of US LawShield. Thanks for the video. I would hope I get you to defend me if I ever have a need. Thanks, Skip

[@JamesReeves]

I defend every suit in LA and MS. It would be me.

[@garyowen9044]

Never use Brailsford as an example of anything except being a murderous thug cop.

[@pgiando]

Buying your 14yr old a gun as a Christmas present can send you to prison too.

[@bobyjones3905]

Yep especially if he’s a nut case

[@walterdolphinson8921]

That's a gross over simplification of the events that took place. The 14 year old was contacted by the FBI for making violent threats online a year prior. His dad bought him a rifle as a gift knowing that the FBI had talked to his son. His son shot and killed 4 people and injured many others.

[@walterdolphinson8921]

Point being, it was very negligent and irresponsible to gift to the child. And it gives responsible gun owners a bad name.

[@chikkinnuggits]

Of course Illinois has strong gun laws, how else are they going to keep Chicago so safe?

[@Ineedanewdong]

😂😂

[@Enjoyer.762]

@chikkinnuggits They just continue to blame White 2A activists who oppose trash the Bill of Rights.

[@usonumabeach300]

That dust cover equipped to the Pen15 would've made a great double entendre, if not a more literal use of the verb 😂

[@cdbzbee454]

I wished more people knew about the Daniel Shaver case. Sad

[@eklypse13]

any case law coming out of California should be ignored immediately

[@free00to00ryhme]

It's either justified or not. Prosecution will start looking at ammo type, decals and modifications when the material facts show you acted in self defense to sway the perception of the jury. It all boils down to the politics of your locality. If you live in a deep blue district, youre better off with a bench trial.

[@AustinParker-p5y]

That dude got murdered