🩰How I became an UNPAID "professional" ballerina in my 20s (mindset secrets no one is telling you)

[@VeronicaViccora]

THINKING OF COMMENTING? PLEASE READ: Thank you so much to everyone who's vulnerably shared their stories of dealing with imposter syndrome, perfectionism, scarcity mindset, etc. It's been really beautiful to see that we're really never alone on these creative journeys, and your comments will absolutely help other ballerinas, artists, ice skaters, creatives of ALL KINDS so much more than you may ever know. AND it goes a very long way to support my hard work on this channel, so BIG HUGE SQUEEZY HUGS TO YOU ALL! To those who are offended by me: I would highly suggest watching the full video before commenting so you don't miss the point. If, however, you still find my opinions irksome, FANTASTIC! It's okay to have a different perspective or 100% disagree. I love free thinking and can't control anyone's perception of me, nor do I wish to. While I appreciate ~constructive~ criticism, if you are not open minded to my personal definition of a ballerina (which includes space for both dedicated ACTUAL professionals and dedicated students) I might suggest simply avoiding my content all together as my opinions on creative empowerment will likely continue to be too inflammatory for your taste.

[@TheRacingWind]

this is great-- as an adult who began figure skating in my mid twenties, it's so important to me that other adults feel empowered to seek out their childhood dreams. this is great messaging for that

[@VeronicaViccora]

That’s such an amazing sport and so cool that you started in your 20s! Thanks so much for being here💕 it’s great to have other empowered adult creatives here!

[@Gravitality]

One of my ballet teachers taught us that ballet used to be more about artistry, presentation, pride and poise; it wasn’t so much about the acrobatic/gymnastic/technique, it was more about PRESENCE and CHARISMA and making people see you and admire you and applaud you. You can accomplish that even if your technique is not super developed, which is how I’ve come to have people call me a “dancer” even if I don’t necessarily get paid directly through dancing.

[@jdmingioni]

Great job ! As an ex professional (paid) ballet dancer I applaud your efforts. We love adult beginners and you are doing amazing! Keep up the great work !!

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thank you SO much! that's very encouraging coming from you

[@gabyszabo9615]

I often hear this advise in fitness: ‘Call yourself a runner’; ‘Call yourself an athlete’; because it will help u do the things runners/athletes do. This aligns with what u r talking about here, about moving to a ‘pro’ mentality. And few people will argue with u that u r *not* a runner or athlete - that would be a weird conversation with a weird person that u would shut down. I think it is choosing the share your journey on social media that gives some people the nerve to argue back. My pastor once said (probably quoting someone) that ‘Social media turns life into a theatre and invites people to watch and critique.’ But u can see from the comments that it is worthwhile to share your journey - it is interesting and edifying and encouraging to many; even if some people want to ‘put u in your place’. I am really enjoying your channel!

[@VeronicaViccora]

EXACTLY! I'm so glad you get it. And wow those are extremely wise words from your pastor! That really helps me put things into perspective

[@Sarinhajd]

Let me tell you this, I'm very happy for you! I did ballet as a child and had to stop because my family couldn't afford it anymore. I started again when I was 14 and had to stop again after 1 year because I moved to another city (a very big city where I did not know where or how to start again). Then started again when I was 18 and bursted into tears on my first day because I realized I was too old to "become a pro" . I did it for 4 years and had to stop again. Started again at 24 and continued until 27 which was when I became so frustrated (because of my perfectionism and because I would compare myself with the 14-year-Olds who had better lines and more flexibility) that I stopped. Today at the age of 31 I'm finally coming to peace with the fact that I will not have the lines and perfection of Marianela Nunez, but it doesn't matter, what matters is that I love it and it fulfills my soul. I'm happy that you reached this peace of mind and understanding of what ballet means to you at your age. Keep going, do your thing, do your craft and be patient. Tip: avoid black stockings with pink shoes, always match their colors because it makes your lines look cleaner and longer.

[@VeronicaViccora]

Sarah. Thank you SO. MUCH. for taking the time to share this. There are so many people who can relate to this story and it's so important to know that we're not alone. It's these messy, imperfect stories that are my favorite because they're so honest and real and show that we still have so much more time than we give ourselves credit for. Not everyone was lucky enough to have parents that decided to make them ballet dancers before they were even old enough to walk and that's OKAY. We can have a different relationship with our art and that's a beautiful thing. Thank you so much for the tip and the kindness you've shared, DANCE ON!

[@catobrien837]

I think this is your best so far. 14 minutes and 29 seconds of pure truth and inspiration. Thank you for this!

[@VeronicaViccora]

Wow! That's so kind of you! I worked really hard on this so it's so exciting to know that you enjoyed it

[@twilightcassidy3570]

as a 17 year old who started ballet a year ago i absolutely love this video! it is just so insightful and helpful!! love u so much! I am obsessed with your story and your videos!!!

[@darshahockings5521]

I love the mindset shift you displayed in this video. Definitely what I needed to hear. I’m enjoying reading everyone’s comments of their experience, it makes me feel less alone. I’m going to take this with me into my theatre work. Thank you!! Can’t wait to see more ❤

[@VeronicaViccora]

That’s SUCH wonderful news, it can be difficult to maintain these mindset shifts in practice especially when dealing with pushback from others. But it’s nice knowing that more positive and helpful thoughts are always available to us, no matter what the rest of the world is doing 💕

[@littlesaviours1632]

Dude, this video is so special and just what I needed to hear. It's amazingly filled with a beautiful message, profound knowledge, and kindness. I drank your words as if they fell from the sky. Thank you for this. You're a beautiful human being.

[@kristynabrazdova9325]

This video is so important! So many different aspects that I didn't think of... And it's visible that there was a lot of work behind that video - so well said, filmed and edited! It also reminds me of an interview I've had recently with a poet: he said that it doesn't matter how many poetry collections a person has released (if any) - the sensitivity towards the world and the ability to see it in a certain unique way is what defines a poet, not awards, number of sold books or how much money they made from it. And eventhough the person stops writing poetry altogether and moves onto something else in life, the „poetic“ approach to life stays with them. I think it also applies to other fields of art, not only poetry. That what matters is our decision to cultivate the gift that we have been given...

[@VeronicaViccora]

As always you are SO kind and lovely, thank you so much for being here. That's such a beautiful observation too. Thank you for sharing that! I completely agree, I think a person's creativity is innate and it flourishes with time, attention and dedication. But it's always there, and it's something no one can ever really take away

[@RachelAnnDRKRaven]

You are doing what you love! You can follow whatever dreams you have at any age. I just started writing songs this year and made my first real musical video a few weeks ago. I also preformed my first live show of the music I wrote only a week ago. I’m a real singer and a real musician no matter what other people think. You are doing Amazing!! I can’t wait to keep watching the videos you create. ❤

[@VeronicaViccora]

YES. you are!!! That is FANTASTIC to hear, congratulations on those major accomplishments! Many artists will keep their dreams hidden away for their whole lives so that’s a major step! 🥰 thanks so much for your support!

[@robbgregorrichard1009]

You are literally doing the same as me. But in my case, it is playing piano. Indeed, the gatekeeping is truly insane in the artistic world, especially with people who started to learn the craft as an adult.

[@screamingpiano]

Agree gatekeeping is totally rubbish! Art is for everyone - anyone who wants to pursue it can call themselves an artist. I grew up under the classical "artistic" piano world and now I totally reject it. I play piano just because it's fun. I don't give a rat's arse about where I rank among the other "pro" pianists in the world. I am no better or worse than someone who started learning yesterday. If you love something, it will shine in whatever you do. And that for me is true artistry.

[@robbgregorrichard1009]

@@screamingpiano That's great that you didn't let your past experience deter you from your love of playing piano. Next month, I will celebrate 5 years of learning and I am taking it day by day. Slowly, I realize that despite learning the classical way, I don't want to specialize in classical repertoire. Meaning playing only that. Recently, I got the opportunity to play more modern, popular repertoire with other people, in a band. Also gave a try to jazz and blues pieces for my upcoming ABRSM exam. When I played them in front of more experienced pianists, who only play classical repertoire, they were surprised by my "risk taking". Some admitted that they would struggle to learn them. Then I met some people who were really against pop music. The same who say that classical music is the base of everything and blablabla... On the other hand, also facing people who asked me why I was wasting so much time to develop my sightreading and to play music "nobody really wants to listen to". Ah! gatekeeping is on both sides! I love classical music, but it was not the best teacher for developing my ears and to improvize. This is why I see my piano journey as taking the best of the two worlds and make them talk to one another. (BTW, I have taken a look at your channel. You got a new subscriber)

[@screamingpiano]

@@robbgregorrichard1009 Thank you Robb for the considered reply and for the sub! I fully don't understand the musical gatekeeping in any genre either. Music is music. Art is art. You just play what makes you happy, period. I started my musical journey with classical music. I never fully connected with the music despite trying my hardest to enjoy it. Then my life changed in 2018 when I attended an anime piano concert on whim. One performer, Animenz, was a classically trained pianist. The other, Theishter was completely self taught. Both of them blew my mind. I just saw two friends travelling the world to perform their favourite pieces on stage. And I suddenly understood the point of music. You play because it's fun. You share it because you love it. That's IT. Who cares what teacher you had, what competitions you've won, what orchestras you've performed with.... NONE of it matters. What matters is your joy and your desire to share that with others. :) And in the process of sharing your joy you can get really good at what you do too!

[@screamingpiano]

I also did rediscover the joy in classical music too eventually! So now I can enjoy everything and play without fear :)

[@ebalsdon5870]

This really reminds me of The Artist's Way which I highly recommend reading. I am also someone who started ballet in my 20s and this is the first video of yours I've come across. It was edited really well and I can see myself coming back to it and sharing it with friends. Thank you.

[@Helga_ch99]

It made me cry 🥲 after watching this video I feel like from now on l always have a reason to keep on going 🥺 You are my role model from now on thanks for that 🥹❤️ And hope you the best (hope to see you on the stage✨)

[@VeronicaViccora]

Wow! Thank you so much, that’s extremely kind of you!!! 💕 this totally made my day and I feel very lucky to have someone as kind as you here!

[@kayterryswift]

This is a great video! I‘ll definitely try to adopt the abundance mindset. I recently started studying dance at university, and I felt like me being there is degrading the value of the degree and of the amazing professionals who graduated before me. I came to dance „late“ and I need to catch up on a lot of basic technique. But while watching your video, I also realised that the only whole reason I got this far, was that I unknowingly „turned pro“ in the last 3 years (which was when I was rejected by the same university that I am studying at now): I tried to have as many dance classes as possible, I did additional strength training, and rented a studio to practice on my own (I was lucky that there was an artist community nearby who gave out studio space for free). I went to as many dance competitions as I could, which would push me to practice and have my dances performance ready until a specific date. I went to summer schools to check out the university and meet people who taught or studied there to find out what it takes to get there. I started to network with the professional dance scene in my town, even though I felt like I was way out of my league. Whenever I met new people in my life, I told them that I wanted to be a professional dancer. That way I could test out society‘s reaction, and sort out my social circle according to who would be supporting of my endeavour. (Telling my family and old friends was way scarier though) Hopefully my comment will motivate some of you to keep working hard and never give up of your dreams. Also, being a professional paid dancer can take many shapes or forms. A late comer might not tour the world as a first soloist in a classical ballet company, but could definitely teach recreational programmes or land local performance jobs, at the very least.

[@VeronicaViccora]

Okay I love this SO. MUCH. First of all, those are pretty strong feelings - that you felt like YOU being there was degrading the whole value of the degree simply because you were a late bloomer? (I hope I understood you correctly). I'm certain those are NOT your thoughts, but likely thoughts implanted by greater society or the culture. And it is SO unnecessary. Because clearly, you're extremely hard working, motivated and I can only guess, very talented especially if you're working so diligently. And I understand how scary the whole friends and family thing can be- sometimes, unfortunately, they can be our biggest critiques and naysayers. And it hurts so much more than a stranger's insults because we actually love them! Anyway, I think you're super cool and I'm really glad you took the time to comment.

[@kayterryswift]

@@VeronicaViccora Thank you so much for taking the time to type such a long answer

[@annasingankutti5832]

Thank you so much! Your videos help me tremendously. You have no idea. Also your video quality and editing and everything is just perfect. Please keep going!

[@AllieJessing]

I discovered you yesterday and it has been like a coming home and a feeling of such sisterhood and solidarity. I love the language you've found around your messaging as "creative empowerment." It has definitely had a huge impact on my mindset around own journey embracing my identity as a multi-passionate artist and philosopher and dedicating myself to spending my days in full creative expression. I've already recorded a few vlogs of my own and mentioned you quite a lot! I'll let you know when they're posted and you can revel in my appreciation. It has been such a pleasure to go back through your videos and watch your transformation as you increasingly own who you are. I couldn't relate more. Cheering you on and grateful for and inspired by you

[@AllieJessing]

I love to remind people that Charles Darwin was an "amateur" biologist.

[@VeronicaViccora]

@@AllieJessing Omgomgomg what sweet things to share! Please tell me when your vlogs are live! I can’t wait to show some support! Always wonderful to connect with likeminded creative souls 💕💕

[@floristafrohlich9739]

Thank you so much, i really love this video! The topic is so important and you have very interesting and helpful thoughts on it. I'm so happy that i found your channel and wish you all the best for your future!

[@jujubadetrigo]

thank you for sharing your journey and encouraging others to also pursue their artistic dreams. there are so many reasons why someone might not get to pursue something when they are young and we should not deprive ourselves of living beautifully just because of that.

[@cmbdiaz]

I wish I would have seen and watched this video months ago. Training in Ballet in my late 40s (I'm turning 50 this month) has been my deep dark secret. And I so wish I could shout it from the rooftops about my love for it, but I am hesitant because of the backlash. You're inspiring me to have the courage to keep going with pride. And p.s. I don't care that I can't become a paid professional. I just want to experience the joy of mastering the art to the best of my ability. Thank you for your content ❤

[@modtomodern]

Nothing wrong with training in any physical discipline. Love it, try to improve, go to ballet classes.

[@roxannewebber6873]

Girl you have EVERY right to call yourself a ballerina do not listen to those people who say you aren't a ballerina because what you are doing deserves RESPECT! You are braver than anyone that has negative comments and better because you are spreading positivity and inspiring others! Never give up! ❤

[@VeronicaViccora]

Wow! Thank you so much for this!! You're extremely kind, I really appreciate you saying that.

[@rheamaryrao3988]

Thankyou sooo much for making this video... I'm turning 20 next year and I always thought it was too late for me to learn dance. You really opened my mind.🥰🤩 ALL THE BEST WITH YOUR DANCE JOURNEY!🤩🤩😍😍

[@VeronicaViccora]

That is FANTASTIC! It's absolutely NOT too late, you have sooooo many beautiful dancing years ahead of you so if it's something you're interested in, please go for it! Thanks a million

[@lostie9866]

I was fortunate enough to start ballet when I was 4 and trained to dance professionally, but didn't go that route because of burnout and because I was told so many times I was too short to be a professional (and therefore had to be "3x better than everyone else" - yes, a real quote - to compensate for my lack of height). I have taken a few breaks but keep returning to ballet because it's what I love to do. Now in my late 30's I can relate with you in certain ways because I'm having to retrain my older body and struggle with not feeling up to the standard I'd like achieve. I love this definition of being a professional, and what you said about those who've been dancing 20+ (in my case 30+) years hesitating to feel worthy to call themselves real dancers is so true! I've enjoyed catching up on some of your videos, and keep up the great work, you are a beautiful dancer! : )

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thank you for sharing all of this, it's actually really good to hear that we're not alone out there in the crazy things that people have told us, these arbitrary rules that humans decided to make up and enforce on each other when in reality, dancing is the most human thing you can do

[@Weird-Girl]

I absolutely adored this video ❤ you’re 100% right in everything you said. It’s definitely a hard mindset to shift though and I struggle with it a lot when it comes to pretty much anything I do. But you’ve given me a lot of inspiration to shift my imposter syndrome mindset. A good way I like to think of it is Van Gogh. When Van Gogh was alive he sold a total of 2 paintings. No one thought his work was good enough just because he did things differently than what was considered traditional at the time. His work was seen as childish, bad, amateurish, etc. people back then would’ve told him he wasn’t a real artist, and that he had no right to call himself that. And now he’s one of the most famous artist legends ever (and a personal favorite of mine). You have every right to call yourself a ballerina! 👏 you’ve put in a lot of work and dedication and to me, that’s all it takes to define what someone is.

[@madara_roz]

Great video! I totally understand what you mean. I used to feel like I need to “earn” some level of skills before I can even get the proper gear (like leotard). With that mindset calling myself a ballerina (or something else, it applied for me for different crafts) was just out of question. 😅 however, in time I did learn that you can be a beginner in cute leotard and you can call yourself a dancer. That it is ok to be dedicated and passionate to the art/craft from day 1! It is a way how to show that I am serious and that it is important to me! And it’s a good thing. Also loved the insight that adult beginner have hard time beginning. It’s already hard to start something new later in life (no matter how late, and no matter is it a hobby or carrier change). There shouldn’t be any more resistance from outside! But it’s the other people who are afraid to start, I guess… And I also wanted to add that if you add in your title “ballerina” or “professional” some people might be disappointed (and that’s why they comment some unfriendly things) because of their ~expectations~ to see behind the scenes of a dance company or big show. But that’s why I love your content! At the moment you show that you can be a “different kind”of professional. Broadens up the horizons! 👍 Keep going and I am sure you will achieve your wildest dreams! And I do believe that calling yourself a pro early on will play a role in that! Taking your craft seriously is the way to success. ❤ All the support for this channel and to your journey! 🙏🏻

[@juslanedasilvamiranda1473]

This video made me cry. I also started ballet in my 20s, and I have the same thoughts. Loved hearing someone talk about it. Thanks for sharing

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thank YOU so much for being here and being so kind

[@juslanedasilvamiranda1473]

@@VeronicaViccora ❤❤❤

[@TheALLYISLAME]

i love this video!!! just discovered your channel as an adult dancer myself. i am in my third year of dancing and have wondered this question too ❤

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thanks for being here! Congrats on 3 years! That’s wonderful💕

[@turtlep8582]

I have not seen your videos in months but I am so impressed with your progress!

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thank you so much!!! 🥰🥰🥰

[@LadyBlack22]

Hi, Thank you. I am also an adult-beginner and I tend to just avoid the adult part because it's all just ballet. I'm just taking lessons, ya know? But I HAVE felt this imposter syndrome you speak of! It wasn't until like this year, my fifth year in ballet and my second year en pointe, that I'm really starting to feel like this is something "I do"... and I've felt that in other areas of my life too. Like when I went to school for graphic design.. It wasn't until I was in my senior year of college that I actually began to feel like an artist! But this video is coming to me at a time right when I'm realizing how silly that is... and I'm A LOT of things.. and I do a pretty good job at them too.. maybe ballet is excluded because that's extra hard, but oil like painting, writing, I'm an entrepreneur and started my own photography business, I'm in real estate school so that my husband and I can get our real estate-related goals off the ground to a good start. Ya know? I think a lot of it stems from my lack of confidence in myself, but I've kind of just started reminding myself of all the wicked cool stuff there is to know about me.. Like the fact that there have been 3 songs written about me, and that my husband's music students have formed a Beth Black fan club! This isn't just me perceiving that I'm pretty okay.. this is other people telling me that I'm pretty awesome. Very recently I've been struggling about what to put on my resume. It seems like 5 years of ballet education should be something, right? But is it a hobby or is it an education? Anyways, I just so very much appreciate your vulnerability and willingness to speak out on behalf of all the perfectionist-try-hards out there who're bold enough to do these things despite the nay-sayers. You're awesome and I appreciate you.

[@VeronicaViccora]

Beth, firstly thank you for you sharing all of this so vulnerably. Songs written about you!? A FAN CLUB?! That's some pretty fantastic stuff. You sound like you and your husband are just overflowing with life and creativity and that makes you my kinda people

[@micaela_c]

This is a work of art! One of your best yet!

[@VeronicaViccora]

My goodness that’s so kind! Thanks Micaela!! 💕💕

[@natalie8457]

Fantastic video, you have articulated this so well!

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thanks so much for your support angel!! 💕💕💕 that means the world!

[@oohlookatthatdoggo]

Obsessed with this as a concept! Dance on!

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thank you! Highly recommend reading Turning Pro to explore the concept more, it's quick and life changing! (also I love your screen name haha)

[@junetaylor5098]

This is so well summarized!

[@VeronicaViccora]

Wow!! Thank you!!!

[@fleurvdelft]

Love this, and love the slipper edit btw!

[@VeronicaViccora]

oh that's amazing! Thank you SO much!

[@islariley8928]

Loved love this ❤❤❤ thank you 🙏

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thank you so much for watching!!!

[@franni391]

thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!🌦 it is very inspiring 🦋

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thank YOU for being here! 💕 sending love!

I love your mindset! That's definitely something I want to adopt as well!🥰👌🏾

[@seelen999]

Thank you so much for this video, it encouraged me a lot to become a musician! much love

[@Rdballet]

Love a mindset shift! Thank you for sharing your story

[@kiaraeijo]

Classical Music teaches similar values that Ballet does. I took dance classes as a kid but I was always drawn to the classical music world (which is a predominantly white, European art form like Ballet). I have been a musician since I was 10/11 years old (I started with piano first and then when I was 11/12, I switched to flute; an instrument I have been playing for the last 19 years) and I can tell you that being a classical musician just like ballet takes a lot of hard work, discipline, and a lot of blood, sweat and tears. I have had internet trolls tell me that I was not good enough because I come from a humble background and I don’t have the cookie cutter conservatory education. I’m mostly teaching at the moment but I tell my students that what I’m teaching them is going to apply to the real world and I’m not expecting to become a professional. I think it’s admirable that you went back to learning ballet as an adult, one ballet dancer that I love seeing her videos is Kathryn Morgan (former Soloist with the New York City Ballet and Miami City Ballet).

[@VeronicaViccora]

I LOVE this, thank you SO much!!! You're so kind and I'm certain you're an incredibly talented musician. I wish I could learn from you! You're so right, let's not focus on the haters and yes Kathryn Morgan is INCREDIBLE! I'm so glad she's so generous with all her free classes online!

[@SpiritHeartsSong]

omg i love you this video is supreme!

[@melissaholcombe3958]

I am 27 and I am going back to college and the professor's act like you're an alien lol. Life does not stop unless you do and others people expectations are insecurities they have.

[@VeronicaViccora]

REALLY!? I'm so surprised they'd do that in a space of learning! We should never stop learning. And you're 100% correct!!

[@annalee4609]

Love it! Thanks for sharing! I have similar thoughts too and it makes me wanna blog it out hehehe

[@VeronicaViccora]

Go blog it out!!!

[@tammystiletto]

My GOSH I love your sass 🙌🏻🫶🏻

[@_bebeboudeur_]

i agree with the thought process, the title of the video is confusing to be fair :') i always ask myself what i should tell people i'm doing with my life so that's what i would send them (though i can't say i'm nowhere near a living arts pro)

[@AnnieTrvn]

I really support that Ballet should be for everyone and I love that you enjoy it! However, i don’t know if anybody told you yet/by now. From what I HEARD “(Prima) Ballerina” is the official title of a 1st soloist in a Russian company. Although the full title is prima Ballerina, ppl often short it to ballerina. So that is where the word is coming from. Maybe that’s why people are upset 🤷🏻‍♀️, it’s suggesting that you put yourself on a level with professional 1st soloists. Even professional dancers in companies wouldn’t dare to call themselves a ballerina if they’re in the corps de ballet, usually they say sth like “dancer with the xx-company” In America/UK we have the principals, in France the etoiles… some companies don’t even have specific names for their 1st soloists and just call them (1st) soloists. I hope this helped 😁 and keep going with ballet, I enjoy your tiktok-videos 🥳

[@VeronicaViccora]

You’re absolutely right! I’m sure that’s why some people are offended and it’s completely understandable as well! People have actually educated me on this before and I even considered adding it to the video because I figured it would come up at some point (so I appreciate you doing it with so much grace and kindness! 🥰) In truth, I definitely don’t know enough about the deeper world of ballet to really comment on any of that, I’ll be a student for life I’m sure! My whole ethos online is just about examining the invisible rules we place on ourselves and questioning if they actually make any sense for us personally. I’ve been using the very simple Oxford dictionary definition of a ballerina which is just “a female ballet dancer.” But heck I’m happy to be called a purple avocado if it makes someone feel better! I just envision a world where artists are able to focus on what brings them joy and fulfillment instead of the semantics surrounding their work (which can often lead to feelings of imposter syndrome, perfectionism, etc)💕 Thank you so much for your support and you kindness! I think these are excellent conversations to be having and I love the additional layer you added with your perspective! 😁

[@sarahwales6276]

The word ballerina means a female who dances ballet, that's literally the definition. it's not short for prima ballerina, that is the rank of a ballerina.

[@ivyarianrhod]

That is the **newer** definition. It was originally/historically like @AnnieTrvn said (but not exactly). Ballerina was a rank--a female principal dancer. Above it was Prima Ballerina, who would be the best female principal in a company. Top top top "ballerinas" were Prima Ballerina Assoluta. (Not just top in a company, it is a great honor--there have only been eleven PBA's EVER). Even professional ballet dancers in the corps de ballet were not ballerinas, as they had not achieved that rank. They were just called ballet dancers, or artists (or "coryphee"). It has only been recently that, since "outsiders" to the world of ballet began calling every female who does ballet a "ballerina," it has made it into the dictionary as such. Since ballet is so centered around tradition, there are still MANY people out there, and pretty much the whole ballet world, who only consider professional ballet dancers and maybe elite students to have earned the name. That is why there is a fuss when people use the term "incorrectly." It's like back in the day, in craftsmanship, there was the Apprentice/Journeyman/Master. We still wouldn't consider everyone who does woodwork today to be a "Master," unless they **truly** have mastered their craft. Veronica, you say you have been educated on this, yet you still don't know enough about the deeper ballet world to comment. Do you see why professionals object to your usage? Based on your love of ballet, I would think you would respect the terms professionals use. @sarahwales6276 @VeronicaViccora

[@ivyarianrhod]

I thought of another analogy: "Chef," as opposed to "cook." A chef is a "professional cook & tradesman who is proficient in all aspects of food preparation, often focusing on a particular cuisine." But people nowadays use it loosely, as just someone who loves cooking. You can use that term, sure, but never say that to an ACTUAL chef. It insults/belittles all the training, time, and talent the professional chef has put into his/her craft. There is only one chef in a professional kitchen, under that is the sous chef, and below that are cooks.

[@Nicana68]

You're amazing and inspirational. It might interest you to research that 'back in the old days' the title ballerina was only bestowed upon the leading principal ballet dancers. So a (paid, professional, fully trained, etc.) corps de ballet dancer or soloist would not dare call themselves a ballerina. After 'ballerina' the next title/rank was 'prima ballerina'. Then the very, very rare title of 'prima ballerina assoluta' was only awarded to the most famous and accomplished of ballerinas. As an ex professional ballet dancer I have never actually called myself a ballerina as I sort of followed this 'old fashioned' code. These days anyone who does ballet at any level can consider themselves a 'ballerina', but I think it's important to study, understand and acknowledge the rich history behind the original meaning of the word. To me that shows respect to those who came before us, including the several 'real' ballerinas, prima ballerinas and even the one prima ballerina assoluta that I was honoured to have trained under. May these great ballerinas rest in peace.

[@ivyarianrhod]

I just wrote this in a reply, I hadn't read all the comments yet! Sorry to "copy" you!

[@StarGuardianKassadin]

i am also a ballet dancer who started in their 20s, and as much as the comments were rude... Ballerina is the term for the profession. So, if we were getting paid or were in a company then yes, we would be ballerinas. But as long as you're doing this in your own time, the term is ballet dancer.

[@VeronicaViccora]

that's a fair perspective! This video was really more about adopting a professional's MINDSET however. I'm very clear that I'm not actually a professional ballerina. My audience is very smart so I'm certain the people who needed to make that mindset shift understood that.

[@sarahwales6276]

If you read the definition of ballerina it i does not say a professional ballet dancer it is a female ballet dancer.

[@ivyarianrhod]

But you have videos titled with the word ballerina. We don't know until we watch the video that you aren't. That's called clickbait. @@VeronicaViccora

[@lynncai587]

I also want to add that in the professional world the term "ballerina" is usually used only for principal dancers

[@laurabellefontainevlogs362]

I love this

[@MillieManoban]

Love this mindset

[@jenifersarver761]

Here’s what makes a dancer/artist etc: ability. There is no such thing as an “ unpaid professional “ You are an adult beginner. Nothing wrong with that. But that’s all you are. It’s so disrespectful to people who have dedicated their lives to this and have passed the “ gatekeepers”. Anyone who doesn’t have to work a real job can call themselves anything -I can call myself a cheese sandwich. I think you’d eliminate people finding you offensive if you stopped using a title that goes to people who earned it by their work - or little girls too young to know better. No one has any problem with an adult beginner. But know your own ability. And trust me; I’d love to avoid your content; it’s not for me. If it’s for others- great. But you are getting picked up by algorithms and are showing up repeatedly and it’s like not looking at a car wreck. Maybe adjusting your settings if you can’t adjust your language. If you keep this up I think eventually you will understand more why people don’t respond well to some of your content. Some is harmless- but some is offensive. I doubt anyone wants to hurt your feelings but I don’t control how KZbin works.

[@cyclamen831]

I think we should call ourself simply ballet students. Nothing wrong with that, really. It also cut to the point that we are not professional dancers with a certain degree of mastery, technique and artistry which, to the eyes of us who have done ballet for years, it is quite obvious, paid or unpaid that those ballet dancers are. Perhaps this is a US sentiment that you are sharing, more a cultural perspective. I come from another culture so I really do not get it but I have enjoyed listening to the whole analysis. It does show that clearly you are thinking about what ballet, with its perfectionism, unreal gravity defyining features, triggers in you and so many people.The important thing is to grow from this and not let it crush you. Regardless, ballet is hard and beautiful. Stay humble and just keep showing up to classes!

[@marshmallow7640]

Its not a US thing, culturally professional would be as you defined here

[@starmelodyelizabethb7380]

I want to be a ballerina when I was in my 20s . Now in my 30s I still struggle to my dance journey

[@VeronicaViccora]

30s still isn't too late

[@independentballerina]

I see your point but still it's not right to call yourselff a professional ballerina... and here is why... a ballerina is a professional ballet dancer and it means this person can actually dance ballet on pointe and put on a show. It's not money... ıt's being able to dance ballet... and you are not a ballerina but a ballet student... you dedicated your life to improving your technique and becaome a professional ballerina so this makes you 'pre-professional ballerina' and it is not a bad thing. I have also dedicated my life to becaome a ballerina so I am a ballet student... we need to be patient. When you are on stage dancing pretty good on pointe you will be a professional ballerina and that day no one will be able to say anything... let your dance show the world who you are... not your mouth... ❤❤❤ love your channel by the way :)

[@VeronicaViccora]

haha thank you! and don't worry love, as I tried to explain in the video, I'm really more using the term "professional" in a very cheeky way. this video was really to help people who feel so trapped by doing things "right" or feeling the need for "permission" from the outside world to feel more empowered, motivated and free to follow their dreams

[@independentballerina]

@@VeronicaViccora talkin about dance... when will we be able to see you dance a choreographed ballet routine for us?

[@sarahwales6276]

That's not the definition of a ballerina, there's no need to be rude. Ballerina is defined as A female ballet dancer, period.

[@independentballerina]

I agree...a ballet dancer is called ballerina... And guess what do you need to be a ballet dancer... TO BE ABLE TO DANCE BALLET! Workingout at barre and practicing poine or center workouts is not dancing... They are workouts... they may look like dance but not... They are there to create a ballet dancer... when she goes on stage with pointes, or records a nice dance video or maybe perform on the street whatever, then we can call her ballerina... I am not talking about being good or bad... just being able to dance... I am not rude or something... I am also studying ballet... learning it, there is no need to fake it... It takes time and effort.. I am suggesting to be patient... Sooner or later Veronica and I will be ballerinas... Just not today... we are ballet students... because we are learning 'ballet technique' to become ballerinas... @@sarahwales6276

[@sarahwales6276]

@@independentballerina You can speak for yourself but barre, Allegro and Adagio for example are a form of ballet dance. You can argue with the definitions of 'dance' and 'ballerina' but I can't change that to fit your personal beliefs. You may do ballet style workouts but that is not the same as taking actual ballet classes where dance is involved. A ballerina is not defined as someone who goes on stage. I don't know who the 'we' is you are speaking for but you are not acknowledging the actual definitions of the words you are using. You can call yourself a ballet student but if Veronica wishes to call herself a ballerina she is using the correct definition of the word and that's what is comes down to rather than your personal feelings.

[@juliette3597]

Ok I have to comment on this one, here goes: Ballerina used to be actually a formal title in a company. Like Chief Executive Officer. It was literally earned in a company hierarchy and was granted to the top few female dancers, and danseuse was for males. That's still true in certain companies, but not in the USA. And there is another very excepted use of the word in America which is... a female ballet dancer, of any age/size/level. Point is, this entire discussion is just a bunch of people talking about stuff they don't really have the historical education on, and that doesn't even really matter? But here I am commenting and watching so there's that.

[@balletobsessedweirdo]

People that gatekeep ballet scare me lol This video is awesome girl ❤

[@VeronicaViccora]

It's understandable! There can be a lot of toxicity in the dance world and some people get swept away by it. But I hope we can start to create a more positive atmosphere for those of us who have such a deep passion for it!

[@glowupclouds7638]

i really liked your video

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thank you!! 💕💕

[@breemds]

As you are aware…even calling yourself a yogi is a thing! 🙄 love your video as both a dancer 🩰 and yoga 🧘🏾‍♀️ teacher. XoXo

[@VeronicaViccora]

oh TOTALLY. thanks a million for the support!

[@marianafadamoderna6646]

This video just made me realize that I’m not an “aspiring researcher”, I’m actually an unpaid professional researcher! 🤯 I dedicate time to research everyday and I see huge improvements in my skills and my contribution to my field the more I research. Just because nobody pays me to do it doesn’t mean I’m not a “true researcher”. Thank you so much for your video! It was really eye-opening and inspiring ❤

[@Fitandflexballet.]

im a ex ballerina an ballet teacher and i would say never give up on your dream

[@VeronicaViccora]

That’s extremely encouraging, your students are lucky to know you 💕

[@sarahwales6276]

Great video, ignore the naysayers. People who are unfulfilled in their own lives tend to get triggered by someone shining her light and living her dreams. 😊❤

[@ilgnkoc3020]

I totally understand your point but the words you are using to describe your mindset about an art form you love is absolutely wrong. I am a dance student myself and I know that I will NEVER be a ballerina since I am too old no where near in talent to be one. I remember one time someone in my class called us 'ballerinas' on backstage and my ballet teacher corrected her as 'You are not ballerinas. A ballerina is someone who dances for a living and in a company. You are ballet students.' Until that moment I have considered myself as a ballerina but after that sentence I realised that we are not. Just because we love and train in ballet doesn't make us ballerinas. Think of it as someone going to a basketball club. Does that make them an athlete? No. So this applies for you too. You are no where near professional or being a ballerina. Ballerinas and professional ballet students are offended by the way you talk since these people that we call real BALLERINAS are giving their whole life to this form of art. They are spending more than 40 hours a week in studios, changing all of their eating and training habits. Most of them cannot even have children since their body weight is not enough to carry a baby. They are risking their whole health for this. Every ballerina gets injured at least once in their career and they get surgeries for this. And imagine someone comes out of blue and calls themselves professional ballerina just because they love ballet and train in ballet. It doesn't work like that. You and me are dance students. Like I said, just because you love something so much that you want to devote your life doesn't make you someone professional. Please do not be offended by this comment. You have to change your mindset if you want people to understand you. I am wishing you the very best with your ballet life.

[@VeronicaViccora]

Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment, it really goes a long way to support all my hard work. I'm actually curious as to what exactly you thought my point was?

[@sarahwales6276]

Where did your teacher find that definition?

[@ilgnkoc3020]

@@sarahwales6276 I actually have no idea but when I grow older I started to acknowledge what she meant. Just think of it this way, when you are in high school you work really hard to get in med school but there is no proof that you are actually going to be accepted as a med student right? And if you achieve that you became a med student but you cannot call yourself a doctor until you graduate and start earning money from working since there is no proof every student in the class will be successful and graduate. You can only become a doctor once you are employed by a hospital and start earning money from working. It works exactly the same with ballet. You train in a normal/local ballet school in order to get in a known ballet school that gives full time ballet education. If you achieve to get accepted in a Full time ballet school you became a ballet student (Mostly high schools of big ballet companies such as ABT, Royal Ballet, English National Ballet etc.) and you can train to become a ballerina but there is no proof that every student in the class will get employed by ballet companies. If you manage to get employed by a ballet company and I mean there are tons of ranking in a ballet company such as; Trainees Apprentices Corps de ballet Soloists First Soloists Principal dancers and most of the trainees and apprentices doesn't even get paid so they are still not officially ballerinas. Once start dancing for a living (mostly getting employed as corps de ballet) than you are officially a ballerina. In this situation, you cannot call yourself a 'ballerina' when you are only on the stage of dancing at a normal/local ballet school just because you are learning ballet. These people work for ages to get this point and be different from other people training on ballet. They deserve to be called ballerinas not us...

[@birdiewolf3497]

⁠@@ilgnkoc3020What is lost if students and hobbyists call themselves ballerinas? I understand not considering yourself professional, because in my book being pro means you are getting paid for your work. But ballerina? Who loses here other than teachers’ ability to make you feel bad about yourself. Like I truly don’t see the need to gatekeep because actual professionals have their own titles…. I just think with that there is even less of a reason to give a damn. At least in other creative fields there is no real distinction ie if you are a photographer.

[@ivyarianrhod]

What is lost? The appreciation of the years and years of sacrifice, dedication, training, and talent necessary to become a ballerina. Seriously--would you call a med student a doctor?@@birdiewolf3497

[@scarlettwinters5642]

A professional is someone that has put in 10K hours or 40 hours a week for 5 years

[@spirals73-s4c]

Where is that definition written? My brother is an EMT who will haul your ass to the ER while keeping you alive on the way and he hasn't been doing it for 5 years yet, only 3. He got up at 4:30 am this morning to do it. He's a professional. Try telling him he's not while you're on the rig with the lights and sirens going. I dare you.

[@scarlettwinters5642]

@ He’s not a professional. It’s pretty funny it was a Firefighter/EMT who gave me that statistic when we worked together

[@Its_Elise_C]

TO DANCERS GETTING FRUSTRATED WATCH HER WHOLE VIDEO SHE MAKES EXCELLENT MINDSET POINTS AND THATS HER WHOLE POINT!!!! That said I think it's wonderful you are following your dreams and pro mindset is totally real, but there is no such thing as an “unpaid professional “ that is literally the defining difference between professional and amateur in anything we need to stop pretending words mean anything. I would also like to say if you had gone through the hell and trials and pressures and pain and sacrifices that those of us who grow up in the ballet world do you would understand why people get frustrated and say you have to earn the title. You have every right to call yourself a beginner Ballerina bc you are and I think you are awesome for doing what you are and deciding to do what you love. And you points about mindset shift are SO IMPORTANT. But earning things and defining things are what makes things special gatekeeping is not inherently bad it makes things what they are and communities exist and its why those things are important. If everything is for anyone and means anything then it means nothing.

[@ivyarianrhod]

I was with you until you said, "You have every right to call yourself a beginner Ballerina." She has every right to call herself a beginner ballet dancer. Especially on KZbin, people searching videos for actual professional "ballerina" videos get shown hers. Like you said, words have specific meanings. For this generation, it's like using the wrong hashtags, or clickbait.

[@Its_Elise_C]

@@ivyarianrhod valid 100%. I actually agreed with you.

[@bagelfish8916]

Your really good at ballet for only doing it a year but using the word professional sort of creates an idea for people who don’t know much about ballet that all they need to do to become a professional dancer is take 1 or 2 classes a week and that it’s easy because not everyone has the same idea of professionalism as you do

[@VeronicaViccora]

Totally! Unfortunately I could've made myself a little clearer in this video in retrospect, but this was more about cultivating the MINDSET of a professional as Steven Pressfield teaches in his book Turning Pro. I highly recommend it!

[@ivyarianrhod]

@bagelfish8916 YES! THIS EXACTLY! It waters down the whole concept of what a ballerina is.

[@chrysalisveganarts]

I would turn off comments if I were you, and just do your thing.

[@LilyHickey-re5kp]

I love that you decided to start dancing in adulthood and I truly believe that everyone has the right to learn ballet. However, I do think calling yourself a professional ballerina is wrong. The definition of professional is literally to be paid for your occupation. Secondly, speaking as someone who began ballet at the age of three and am no going to collage for dance with the goal of dancing in a company one day, I don't even consider myself a ballerina. For those of us who have dedicated our lives to ballet, there is an understanding that ballerina is a title earned when you make it into a company. I don't want to shame anyone who starts dancing at an older age, I just want to let you know watching this video did make me feel upset because it feels like you are undermining all of the sacrifices some have given to dance by saying being a professional ballerina is just about being a good student.

[@sarahwales6276]

Actually, you may want to check your definition again, being paid for a profession is just one of the definitions of professional. If her calling herself a ballerina upsets you, you may want to ask yourself why you are so triggered by this as the problem is with you. A ballerina is defined as a female ballet dancer, a female that dances ballet. Her definition is correct.

[@karaalexandra8114]

Ummm yes and no. I know you posted a few months back but... a professional ballet dancer is someone who first has the skill set body type musicality and a myriad of other things that get them hired to be paid. I have danced ballet all my life and never refer to myself as a pro ballerina. I think it's great she loves ballet and encourage her to continue. However she is simplifying the whole process and it seems to me she is pretty naive about what it takes to become a proficient dancer.

[@spirals73-s4c]

@@karaalexandra8114 If you've done it your whole life, you are at pro level like an athlete would be. You may not acknowledge it, but the rest of us do.

[@KUKAKYOTOTOKYO]

Someone I once knew told me "Nobody loves you, not even your own parents love you. You should just go [explicit] yourself." after arguing about "professionalism" in dance vs hockey. I had spent many years learning bellydance, went to class every week, and practiced nearly every day at home. With my determination, I found myself in the same class along side my former teacher from beginners class in "advanced level" until our teacher retired. Shortly after, I was excommunicated from my family at 17, and child protective services working on my case trying to figure out what to do with a 17 year old who turns 18 in a few months. What he said really hurt me, but he was an idiot. I'm sorry people are so cruel. It's like they just say things to hurt you. Says more about them than you.

[@eileenmcchrystal8471]

Abundance mindset - doesn’t make it good though.

[@VeronicaViccora]

Is this really the kind of person you want to be?

[@modtomodern]

I was never a ballerina, I studied ballet. The kids are not ballerinas, they study ballet. When I studied we were tested and in French and some Russian. I studied ballet for 12 years. Black leotard, flat slippers, tight bun. No pink ribbons no tu-tu's. I could study on pointe only after 9 years. My feet are ruined. I studied an art form which is the discipled basis of movement. My teacher was never my friend. I was never a ballerina, I studied ballet. No patience for wanna-bee's. Only pro's can use the word ballerina.

[@spirals73-s4c]

If you did it for 12 years with that much dedication you are, in fact, a freaking ballerina. Just throw off the imposter syndrome and accept it.

[@modtomodern]

@@spirals73-s4c I thought imposter syndrome was when someone couldn't do something yet pretended that they could. I brush my teeth, I am not a dentist. I jump in the pool, I am not a diver. I studied ballet, I was not a ballerina.