Humility and honesty ... // Denotes longevity and durable respect.
@DeadReckoner6 жыл бұрын
Kudos for the honesty and willingness to discuss everything that you experience, whether positive or not. You set a great example for other pilots to follow, Stefan!
@FlyingGospel6 жыл бұрын
Once in a C152 I was coming back from a solo navigation and my landing was pretty good, gently put the nose wheel down like on any landing, but the whole plane started vibrating with incredible violence, pulled the nose up again and as my speed bled off, nose wheel came back down on the ground and the vibrations started again, it was so bad that the ELT went off. I started braking then came to a stop and taxiing was fine. When I got down I check my shimmy dampener and it had leaked. I always check this before every flight as part of my walk around so I still don't know if I missed it in my walk around or if it leaked in flight. Either way I did a full report, the airplane was snagged and everything. I was quite humiliated that the ELT went off during my landing but as you said safety is paramount. If the nose wheel does this, continue with the landing and keep the nose wheel off the ground as long as possible a bit like a soft landing. Cheers Stef!
@tims46543 жыл бұрын
Did anything happen with the ELT, or were you able to turn it off quickly enough?
@ozequestrian6 жыл бұрын
The silver spat you show at 3:38 was the one I cracked in exactly the same circumstances landing at Bathurst in a gusty crosswind. A very humbling experience.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Ah good to know I’m not alone. Yes it’s quite the learning experience, a good session of circuits with my instructor a short while after got me back in the swing again.
@colinpotter77646 жыл бұрын
Paul needs his own KZbin channel, he was so clear in explaining exactly what he was going to do.
@NikosWings6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting mate, thanks for sharing!
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Niko, the engineering team said it's not uncommon so one to watch out for hey. Definitely some learnings from this flight for me.
@Jake-Day3 жыл бұрын
Amazing vlog. 👏
@chickenaviation10186 жыл бұрын
mate, as Joe said, "A good landing is a landing that you can walk away from" and we all will make mistakes and things will happen, at the end of the day you learnt something and will most likely never do that again. you made it back safe thats the main thing :D
@aaronazz5 жыл бұрын
Great video. The iPhone screen protector gag was brilliant!
@damianstalker7756 жыл бұрын
Hey stef just saw you today at moorabbin with KJN I was in the vixxen, I was going to stop and come say hello but wasn’t sure if ymmb ground would like a little yellow plane parked in the middle of the taxiway just got a meet and greet but glad KJN is fixed she looks great
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Ha yes, the queue behind you might have complained a little! Shame, hopefully next time we can say hello.
@jamesnewton89776 жыл бұрын
Much respect stef. Setting the right example!
@mwilliams21016 жыл бұрын
Nice video really demonstrating some good old fashioned airmanship, not a lot of that around these days 👍🏻
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthew, glad you enjoyed it 👍
@hamishdavidson33686 жыл бұрын
Honestly spats are nice and good for drag reduction, what happened to you has happened many times to many types with spats. A lot of bush operators remove them.
@johnpro28474 жыл бұрын
1:38 I loved touch downs when the the stall buzzer sounded when in GA aircraft. . now I fly RAA LSA with no stall warning ..what a cheap way to save a few dollars ..
@brucefox65806 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan, I respect your honesty. Thanks for sharing.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce, hoping through my experiences we can all become better and safer pilots.
@kaimalcolm6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Super surprised how many broken spats were in that room.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
They weren't all mine, I promise... 😂
@craigwillis33726 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff and great skill from the guys in the hangar! Liked the "pink" overalls as well!
@africancirrus5 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan, great lesson for all cirrus pilots! Being trying to explain the hazards of crosswinds and not landing aligned to new pilots and this is a wonderful video.
@StefanDrury5 жыл бұрын
Yeah hope my experience can help others not do the same. Thanks for watching.
@Mike_Costello6 жыл бұрын
Nice work Stef. Love the Breaking Bad graphics. Rogue pilot takes to cooking spats for extra money.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Yep, haha, well you gotta pay the rent somehow Mike... 😂
@SwingWestBand6 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that you are back to using a four-blade prop. What performance difference have you noticed?
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Yeah gives me better climb rate and I can slow it down a lot faster.
@JodelFlyer6 жыл бұрын
Nicely crafted video Stef. Great story telling with a good message. Well done!
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Tim, hope you're well mate.
@flamethrowerjob186 жыл бұрын
My flight school just leaves all the fairings off the wheels on the cirrus sr20. We have alot of hard landings though. The fairing does give you a few extra knots when you're cruising long distance though!
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
For my use it's definitely preferable to leave the spat on. Better cruise performance and after flying this plane for a while now this is the first time I've ever had an issue with it. So on an hours per broken spat ratio, better to keep it on. I can understand removing it for flight training though.
@seanmcerlean6 жыл бұрын
Whoops.We have all done it.Lookks quite dramatic.Thanks for showing us the repair stef
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Sean. Yeah good to know I’m not the only one that’s done it, but some good learnings for me moving forwards.
@user342746 жыл бұрын
Paul and Steven are great!
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're a lot of fun to make these videos with, thanks Viraj.
@cirrusflyerh28436 жыл бұрын
Stef, Thanks for sharing the lesson learned. Take-aways for me are: 1) Aim for the stall warning on round-out > Energy management 2) Aileron into the x-wind and step on the high wing (rudder) > Proper X-wind technique & line-up in the round-out 3) Damage to the side walls of the nose wheel tyre and inside of spat could remain hidden > Look for hairline cracks in nose gear spat during pre-flight inspection. 4) Stay away from Bankstown ;-)
@ethanlamoureux53065 жыл бұрын
When I learned to fly, I did so at an airport with one runway and frequent crosswinds. I learned to do a side slip so as to align the landing gear with the runway before touchdown. I also learned to use a bit of extra speed in a crosswind landing. I’d say you were probably fine with your speed on approach, you just needed to change your crab into a side slip and then hold it off the runway until it settled down nicely. But as they say, it was still a successful landing!
@mickmolloy59646 жыл бұрын
Great advise on reporting damage... we cannot fix what we don't know about..
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mick, thanks for watching, stef 👍
@TheFlyingReporter6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating, thanks Stef.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Looks like we both had broken planes this week, though mine was a little more self-induced... :)
@virtual8124 жыл бұрын
I feel like i see more Cirrus nose gear trouble videos then any other aircraft nose gear videos. Is there anything to this? The way they wobble looks pretty dodgy to me. Edit to add, now that i have seen the wall of shame of damaged Cirrus spats it seems clear to me this is something they might want to consider doing better. Some heavy dampening might be a good start.
@vixyman4 жыл бұрын
8:51 Looks like someone snuck in a mini Subframe from home. Also, I wonder why Paul didn't drill out the root of the crack.
@fzapaterop6 жыл бұрын
Good night,i am writing from Spain,sorry for my english. In my landing,i had a bound,flight that bound and landing after ,no problems.In a Cirrus sr 20.Is coorrect,or is dangerous?Congratulations
@seferion1seferion1314 жыл бұрын
Dumb question why is the spat? there in the first place? I assume it has a reason why it's there, but I am unaware why it is required.
@andersongeorge46536 жыл бұрын
*Stefan did u ever think about buying KJN* ?!
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Yep, every time I fly it! Not ready to purchase an aircraft just yet, but there may be a time when I do and something like KJN would be perfect.
@R2robot6 жыл бұрын
Ya dun goofed, m8!! A good lesson for plane sharing. Honesty. Also, I was a bit disappointed that Paul quickly said it was 'minor' instead of winding you up a bit first. :D
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Haha, oh don’t worry, they had their share of winding me up! 😂
@taptap2096 жыл бұрын
Was about to taxi at YSBK (Bankstown, NSW) a few days ago when I heard KJN come in for landing, got excited because I thought it was you, Stefan! Turns out it was someone else haha
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Yeah she's flown by a few other pilots these days, great to know she's getting good use. I'll be back though for sure.
@BrynPrice6 жыл бұрын
As the pilot in command are you responsible for the repair costs?
@pslny6 жыл бұрын
Bummer, fortunately it's only "moynor" damage, lol. I like that guy. Paul
@JordiFrio4 жыл бұрын
But what was a reason of shimmy? I don't see any hard landing but if was it shouldn't lead to shimmy. Usually is bad maintenance lead to shimmy
@TREVORDAWSONTHD6 жыл бұрын
There's always a wear and tear in something. I guess that's why we all have to check every inch of the aeroplane before flight. Hope the KJN get's back in the air again.
@craigwilliams81085 жыл бұрын
I try to hold the front wheel off the ground as long as possible when landing. It seems to help.
@StefanDrury5 жыл бұрын
Yes I remember one of my instructors always saying "protect the nosewheel" each time I landed.
@thelocksmith45532 жыл бұрын
At least you kept it on the runway 👍
@captainsman6 жыл бұрын
Is this something more likely to happen with these castor steering nose wheels?
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think the design is a factor here to some extent. There's more nosewheel movement with these free-castoring ones, which is fantastic for manouvering on the ground (you can really spin a Cirrus round in a tight space for parking) but will move around more if it's off centre on landing as you saw. Pros and cons of every design I guess.
@spiro53276 жыл бұрын
Yes, i thought that you seemed a bit upset towards the end of that last video when you left bankstown on your way home. I guess that you have to have some experience in panel beating as an aircraft engineer.
@kickasspeanut6 жыл бұрын
@8:08 classic mini front subframe! on a box you walk past.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Googles "mini front subframe"... ah, wow good spot, that was only in frame for a second!
@tandemwings47334 жыл бұрын
I can't find this question anywhere else. Did they charge you for the repair? (I probably would have... :)
@rodblievers6206 жыл бұрын
A shed-full of repaired spats. Does the Cirrus have nosewheel shimmy issue?
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
They got those out so we could show them in the video. And that would be over a period of time. A lot of aircraft go through Blue Demon so I wouldn’t say it’s a nosewheel issue, rather just a collection of similar incidents saved over time. Thanks Rod.
@michaelfink645 жыл бұрын
Did you add a bit of chilli pepper to the mix?
@justbob5886 жыл бұрын
The C172s I've been flying in until now haven't had fairings on. I guess my flight school went through too many so just gave up on them, or something!
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
I can see why flying schools would take them off for sure. Not worth the additional maintenance for the small benefit in cruise speed.
@Roohikhan8046 жыл бұрын
Oh God...It could have been worse...Thanks God safe landing...
@joeirwin62126 жыл бұрын
A good landing is a landing that you can walk away from, and a great landing is a landing where you can use the Airplane again. So it was a great landing
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe. Definitely some learnings for me from the experience that’s for sure.
@briantii6 жыл бұрын
False. I hate that saying. His landing was a bit fast but this isn't his fault. The nosewheel is setup wrong and tire pressure is probably set wrong too. 100% sure this doesn't pass the normal tension test that's supposed to be performed at annual.
@777SHW6 жыл бұрын
Lol, and a perfect landing is one you can make a video about. Either way, thanks for being so upfront with us and sharing your aviation life with us.
@TeemarkConvair6 жыл бұрын
as an old sheet metal man, i ask, "you don't stop drill the crack?" i also wonder why cirrus, since it seems a "common" occurrence, doesn't modify the spat for more clearance.
@opecyna6 жыл бұрын
Uff. Glad to hear that it is just a minor bump.
@InflightAviation6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Joe-qj7oh6 жыл бұрын
I'd leave the Spat off, with the way the nose wheel has limited control, it's bound to happen again, just keep the main gear ones.
@stevetravelsaus6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Nearly as in-depth as Air Crash Investigation.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Ha! I should’ve started the video “it was a calm Summer’s morning, but nobody could have predicted what was about to happen on flight KJN1 to Sydney...”
@stevetravelsaus6 жыл бұрын
Stefan Drury that would have been a great start to the Video. Reel those Punters in.
@Airplanefish4 жыл бұрын
Landed to fast. Common damage on the cirrus. Also check the side tension on the nose. Simple composite repair. I've done alot of these repairs
@rikspector6 жыл бұрын
Your an excellent pilot but"Stuff" happens. I really think the problem is more design than your"hard" crosswind landing since there are more examples shown of this particular damage. Just my thought. Cheers, Rik
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rik, yes I'm certainly not the first pilot this has happened to, nor will I be the last. But I can definitely improve some of my techniques to be a bit more gentle on the nosegear next time. It's a good learning experience for me.
@tonylibra84936 жыл бұрын
Is that a common issue on a Cirrus?
@briantii6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@gbigsangle30446 жыл бұрын
Three point landings are bad for any tricycle gear plane. So are side-loaded landings. The older Cirrus nose-gear is not as robust as current models which have a hydraulic damping system now. You NEVER want to touch the nose-wheel at the same time or before the mains in any plane, let alone a high performance Cirrus. Even in a side-loading situation you would have saved the nose-gear by keeping it up until the plane was tracking on the runway on the mains.
@h0ll1s6 жыл бұрын
'And don't break it again' bahahaha best quote! XD
@pbbrown19636 жыл бұрын
Ouch!
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
I know right?
@bEEBO1784 жыл бұрын
Free castoring wheels are a bit rubbish tbh.
@mikemonce14055 жыл бұрын
love your videos though............
@firemanbraids89874 жыл бұрын
i am a engineer and i get at least 5 people telling him that they broken the plane and no one gets made only the people going somewhere because they will have to wait
@maxmaxmaxmaxmaxmaxmaxmaxmax15 жыл бұрын
Why would they not put a centering device on it? That's stupid. On 172s and 150s they literally use bungee cords.
@SnowHarp4 жыл бұрын
I can't help thinking the nose wheel could be better designed if it oscillates like that and self harms in the process. However, I am not an expert so 'nuff said.
@jamesbaxter91236 жыл бұрын
Looks like my 162 without the fairing on😂😂
@davefrommelbourne12376 жыл бұрын
6:32 reminds me of the dentist 😑
@kymbiddell74676 жыл бұрын
Bit of duct tape and back into the air in no time 😀
@nathansasse44304 жыл бұрын
Landed flat and need some new dampeners...
@briantii6 жыл бұрын
This isn't your fault. The tension isn't set high enough on the nose wheel. Ours did the same thing occasionally until we FIXED the root cause. The Belleville washers are worn out or setup incorrectly. Don't let anyone blame it on you. The mechanic doesn't have it setup right.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Hey briantii, I appreciate the comment but I have absolute faith in the engineering team to have the aircraft setup right. Thanks for watching mate, stef 👍
@briantii6 жыл бұрын
@@StefanDrury I'm telling you - I am 100% sure. It was not setup correctly. We own a Cirrus too. Had the same problem. Setup correctly it will not do that.
@HWingsAviation6 жыл бұрын
That intro xD
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
We had fun filming that, couldn't keep a straight face!
@HWingsAviation6 жыл бұрын
It's awsome
@pilot.joaoneto2 жыл бұрын
Papai do não
@toivowiikari97056 жыл бұрын
Just... don’t use wheel fairings...😂 it really doesn’t help a lot, a few more knots in cruising speed but more to maintain... that’s why you don’t usually see those in training
@jeffreydurante6626 жыл бұрын
Seems like more of a mechanical problem than a pilot problem, I imagine student pilots would crack those left and right.
@erikthered49296 жыл бұрын
The SR22's nose wheel is definitely too fragile for its' own good, and with the shimmy that Stefan has had on some landings in previous videos I had a feeling something like this would happen. Worst case scenario the shimmy is so strong that it can damage more than just the spat. It really shouldn't happen to that degree even with bad conditions or a bad landing. The problem seems to be exacerbated by the amount of flex Cirrus has on the nose wheel strut for dampening, creating a resonance that causes the wheel to develop a serious flutter in some cases.
@briantii6 жыл бұрын
@@erikthered4929 It's the tension on the nose wheel. It's set incorrectly, tire pressure, and potentially the belleville washers are worn out and need to be replaced. There is a reason why this is supposed to be checked / maintained at annual. It requires maintenance and if it's loose it'll do exactly what it did.
@doubletrouble4734 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but you look like a year 8 teacher at my school
@kimmycarpentero87466 жыл бұрын
Cool. Hope i winn the giveaway
@racko6516 жыл бұрын
Thinking quietly. $600,000 for a castoring nose wheel?!!
@ashsmitty22446 жыл бұрын
It straight up is a terrible design.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about the pilot, I don't disagree...
@MikeMike-er7kn6 жыл бұрын
Love my "steerable nosewheel".... wouldn't have it any other way. Castoring nosewheels require the correct tension. Too loose and they shimmy and shake. Too tight and they won't turn. After time they loosen up and require re-tensioning...... To some degree, I think yours was a bit loose. Maint facility obviously won't admit that....
@ashsmitty22446 жыл бұрын
Stefan Drury 😂 I love the humility.
@briantii6 жыл бұрын
It works fine when it's setup correctly. When it's setup INCORRECTLY it does what you see in the video. This is a maintenance problem NOT a pilot problem. Us pilots have enough things to beat ourselves up over... this isn't one of them. Our Cirrus has the same shimmy occasionally. It doesn't EVER do it now that the Belleville washers are new and the tension is set correctly.
@briantii6 жыл бұрын
@@StefanDrury Man give yourself a break, this is PURELY a maintenance problem. Your approach was a little fast... but when these things are setup wrong it WILL do what you saw on the video sometimes no matter how perfect your landing is. You can sit down on the mains, nosewheel held in the air with the stall horn going off and only let the nose touch when you run out of elevator and it'll STILL SHIMMY. I promise you... from a Cirrus owner who has had this exact same problem - THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT.
@2manyblueberries6 жыл бұрын
That doesn't look good.
@steven47836 жыл бұрын
Just a bad landing, shake it off.
@StefanDrury6 жыл бұрын
Listening to Taylor Swift as I write this.
@davecat14586 жыл бұрын
Meh. Plane can be fixed. Too much energy for sure. Go around....treat every approach to landing as a go around and continue only if EVERYTHING is proper. Easier said than done....we are guilty of forcing a landing now and again. Human nature... My sister wants to know if Paul is married?
@mikemonce14055 жыл бұрын
its a cirrus..... nuff said...... get a real plane....MOONEY.....