How I Communicate With Terrorists & Kidnappers | Minutes With

In this episode of Minutes With, we sat down with Scott Walker, one of the world’s most experienced kidnap for ransom negotiators. Scott reveals the tactics he uses whilst negotiating, recounts his most thrilling cases, and explains how he stays calm whilst bargaining with terrorists.
Scott Walker’s Sunday Times bestseller, Order Out of Chaos: A Kidnap Negotiator's Guide to Influence and Persuasion is published by Piatkus and available to buy online and in stores now.
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Scott Walker’s Sunday Times bestseller, Order Out of Chaos: A Kidnap Negotiator's Guide to Influence and Persuasion is published by Piatkus and available to buy online and in stores now.

[@YochevedDesigns]

He needs to go into Gaza and negotiate with Hamas. It's been over 2 months, and they still have over 100 hostages. Most of them are elderly and children.

[@JunoAbby]

Says the kidnappers know he will pay them.

[@djkasper6852]

The fact he has been working 16 years in the most stressful job ever tells me he has god-level hair genetics.

[@UndefeatedEagle]

My grandfather who is 92 still has blond hair . Mixed with a tiny bit of grey

[@cvbzizou]

Please have a longer interview with this man. He is obviously brilliant but what sets him apart is he stresses the need to self-regulate our emotions. Take care of self in order to take care of others. His neural activity and emotional stability must be insane.

[@Jerellaj]

A master in the art of communicating. He's never failed a job and that says a lot about him

[@Mcfc2Rich]

When he's giving out 300k to terrorists it's hard to think why. I bet they have him on speed dial

[@kizombeiro8130]

Master of manipulation.

[@megadethly]

Would you service him off?

[@pieterpennings9371]

I also don’t think i’ve heard him say “uhm” at all. He is a very good speaker, obviously.

[@chavelly1020]

Honestly couldn’t agree more

[@callumsmith4773]

The stress this man must have went through in his life I can't imagine, what a guy

[@freakazoid4691]

*have gone through

[@Sam-gw5pl]

@@freakazoid4691ok grammar polise….😉

[@Vengeance1978]

​@freakazoid4691 wow. There is still sad little people like you in the world? How lovely

[@Heopful]

@@freakazoid4691 "went through" is completely fine and grammatically correct.

[@SaschaEderer]

It's obvious that in his personality make-up, he's very low in neuroticism. He might've not felt much stress at all, at least compared to others.

[@fredb2858]

This channel has the best interviews/guests I've ever seen. This guy is completely clear and logical on some really complicated things. The nun interview was also class, asking her about her lifestyle rather than talking strictly about Christianity.

[@baileemason5090]

You can tell this guy is a pro!! Listen to how he breaks down what he's saying. Absolutely professional. 👌

[@theafroassassin2535]

He has even mastered the pacing and enunciation of his speech. Clear, concise, and evened.

[@hannahm4078]

I need this guy to teach me how to talk to my very stuborn 7 year old 😂

[@Sam-gw5pl]

Looool right 😅

[@stephanie1733]

😂

[@bryantparker7390]

When I was a stubborn child my mom would always consult someone named Mr. Belt

[@NibNa5ty]

We dont negotiate with terrorist

[@TravelAddict2000]

😅😅😅😅 mine was the flip flop ​@@bryantparker7390

[@karolinakepinska2752]

We need a longer interview with him! Such a persona!! Great listen!

[@catau8000]

impressive man - a stranger to me as I started watching, by the time I finished watching this I totally trusted him with my life haha

[@markjones1337]

Yeah, you'd make a really rubbish kidnapper

[@Fap1]

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[@margodphd]

​@@markjones1337That's a compliment, ain't it?

[@Laura-jx7il]

bring this man back ASAP! i wanna know HOW he does all the tips and tricks he told us! he is obviously brilliant. i wouldnt have thought that the police or negotiators would have such a psychological/therapist/social worker approach! i love it

[@nzoutloud]

It's really funny to me how he's using those techniques on us, as the audience to this video. We clicked on the video probably out of curiosity, but he may well have deftly realised that a lot of people would actually want to know how to use his techniques in their everyday life, and he gave his techniques and reassurance to make us feel seen, heard and understood in what we probably didn't even realise we wanted. Master at his art. Well done.

[@jlongino51823]

Imagine being this collected in the face of everything. Paramedic of 23 years here. I could only wish to have the wherewithal in my life.

[@FordyHunt]

I bet you're pretty collected my friend

[@LK-bz9sk]

This was one of the best interviews. The core elements here apply to de escalation and he encapsulate all so well

[@madilittlefoot8988]

As soon as he said they said they were going to escort him to safety and give him a clean phone I was like oh they really know what they’re doing, they’re making sure they make good on their end of the deal so people know going forward the hostages WILL be given back if you pay them, at least w this specific group. That’s CRAZY

[@nellebuhrmann5343]

Although I've never experienced anything like this I can fully understand that nerves of steel are required -at any point in time when you tell the kidnappers they cannot have what they want could cause a trigger to be pulled. To hear a gunshot over a phone must be TERRIFYING.

[@GreeklishOutdoors]

This was a great interview. Scott Walker is obviously a fantastic communicator. I found his story very captivating.

[@bluesevern]

validating other people´s emotions, listening, being empathic, all those wonderful tips are just amazingly useful in every day life as well. one of my fav interviews! thank you !

[@Arete37]

Those are the exact skills that a professional counselor needs. We also learn to find the pervert person's motivation and use that. Why do they want to change, or why do they want a particular thing. I'd love to know how that plays into negotiations, too. I guess like he said, they want to walk away safely at the end, so you'd build on that.

[@lilbertsmom3561]

Wow, this was a really good interview. And it's really cool that he gave life advice at the end, and how to use HIS tools in your own life.

[@ij1376]

2:58 on the first call, establish: 1. Respect for the kidnapper on the phone 2. Proof of life and safety, and 3. Set a call window when the kidnappers can/can't call.

[@nasty9305]

Forget a family of Lawyers, imagine sitting at the dinner table when this guy and his kids are working something out.

[@CannibalShadow]

I don't have the balls for that kinda job, not gonna lie. Credit to anyone doing this 👏🏾

[@Tricky181]

It’s only talking

[@CannibalShadow]

@@Tricky181 Which can result in death if done wrong....

[@benchmarked7771]

​@@Tricky181🤡 clown

[@prla5400]

​@@Tricky181 ahaha what the fuck

[@AlbertoRestuccia]

The book is terrific. Absolute blast.

[@Thytos]

The way he speaks I'm glued to his lips. I didn't intend to watch the whole 20 mins, yet here we are

[@Arete37]

Jack Kornfield in his book "A Path With Heart" gives excellent instructions on how to do just what is described here, label one's emotions. I used that with therapy clients a lot. Most of us only know "sad, angry, happy" and never sit down and put a finer point of words on our many feelings. Disappointed, frustrated, discouraged, calm, content, elated." And then just let them pass. Even with huge feelings of stress this helps. bring you back to the present moment and brings a sense of control. Over you, not the situation.

[@joannefield3614]

Whilst I like to think I have good communication skills, doing it under that kind of pressure when peoples life is at stake, that’s a whole new level!... as for teenagers, I learnt that you don’t have to turn up for every drama llama you are invited too! Pick your battles 🤣🤣

[@NoudlePipW]

Drama llama 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ComteDeGracey]

Absolutely great video, loved watching it and listening to this man. Would even listen much longer.

[@Analoguebubblebath89]

Learn to love yourself, and you will never feel lonely, alone yes, but not lonely. I too was never loved as a child, never felt safe or had a home of my own. I then was a drug addict and alcoholic for 15 years, and let me tell you. That’s lonely lol. But now, now I try and better my life everyday.

[@mimisikujui5514]

I'm happy u are ok now.

[@Analoguebubblebath89]

@@mimisikujui5514 I commented on the wrong video lol

[@Sam-gw5pl]

@@Analoguebubblebath89OMG looooool

[@benjamjarmin]

@@Analoguebubblebath89 Hope you're keeping good buddy. I'm at the very start of things. Messed up a lot since I left school. Dropped university and things I shouldn't have. On to bigger and better now. Your last statement resonated with me so I thought I'd say Hey.

[@Analoguebubblebath89]

@@benjamjarmin Thank you brother. Be strong

[@shoddy1993]

Would love a lart 2 where he explains how to communicate with the council tax number and his tactics to resolve private parking tickets

[@cz2301]

This 20' video felt like a 7', so entertaining

[@1985Seraphim]

You can tell by the look in his eyes that he’s been through hell and back.

[@drewjamila3868]

A very technical explaination of a a negotiator sharing his knowledge of expertise

[@roberttaggart5757]

What a story teller 👏

[@dixiewade8373]

I would love to hear the rest of the story but suspect no-one on earth will.

[@chloeknight1245]

@@dixiewade8373he has a book!

[@Sam-gw5pl]

@@chloeknight1245👀👀

[@chloeknight1245]

@@Sam-gw5pl they said what it’s called in the description under the video I think

[@Sam-gw5pl]

@@chloeknight1245 👍😀

[@HumbleHerman]

Wonderful guy, wonderful insights.

[@flyingliverp00l1]

That’s a man who’s carried a lot of stress on his shoulders.

[@Arete37]

Except that it's not his crisis in a negotiation. It's someone else's and that makes a huge difference. If it were his child abducted he might be a hot mess.

[@MoreThanPeak1]

Ngl I thought this was Peter Crouch from the thumbnail 😂😂

[@DaniHMcV]

I think kidnapping will become more and more common in developed countries. The divide between the rich and the poor is becoming enormous and working a regular job these days doesn’t even mean you’ll be okay. Working two, three jobs just to pay the bills and still have nothing will push some to the edge.

[@Heopful]

not to mention crypto

[@Clearlight201]

Interesting interview with one gaping hole - the unasked/unanswered question of how or when if ever does law enforcement get involved in taking out the kidnappers? The interview made it sound as if you just haggle over the price then pay them and they go on to do it again and again.

[@TeaCup1940]

Because that is unfortunately exactly what happens. If law enforcement would do their job properly in many countries there wouldn't even be any kidnappers. But yes, they do this again and again as he said and they are an illegal business.

[@Alexden96Channel]

Agreed. He described it as a lucrative business. How can we stop that root cause?

[@noxe6413]

I don t think that s his job tho​@@Alexden96Channel

[@pocuiriz]

This was amazing! What a great interview and a great man 🙌

[@lobsterqueen2844]

“Don’t be afraid of making mistakes.” The hostage listening 👁️👄👁️ Jk lol I know it’s tough work out there, keep it up.

[@SevenGC89]

I just find that so funny how one min the kidnappers are like "Give us the $ or we will fucking kill your people"... 2 seconds after transaction is over "Oh btw here's a clean mobile phone, you call us if anyone gives you trouble and we will come help you". What?? lmao!

[@erikakdee]

I need this man with me every day to help me regulate my emotions 😂

[@Heopful]

have you also stopped showering and shaving your face?

[@Arete37]

Go to therapy, especially DBT therapy. It's designed to help people with Borderline Personality Disorder learn to regulate their emotions. It works.

[@adammoore8203]

Amazing interviewee. Wish the interviewer asked some better questions though

[@zureyaodula5348]

Great interview 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@Greig300]

If you need a negotiator… call Karl Pilkington.

[@Tricky181]

Congress tart

[@Alex-mj5dv]

‘To be honest with you.. this was my last week’

[@tatz2uk]

Orrrrgh, bet you're hot in there

[@chopper1lady]

This guy must be an excellent dad

[@chavelly1020]

Can you imagine arguing with him you would never win 😂😂 his amazing . Very interesting interview

[@katie3472]

Great video. How do private individuals fund the ransoms?

[@xohina_r]

They have kidnapping insurance

[@dixiewade8373]

thank you. excellent lecture.

[@jamesoldham9995]

When you put all your points into the speech skill.

[@xJ4KEx]

Very intelligent man

[@R-Tap]

Knows his business, but the look of his face suggests it has taken a toll on him.

[@rulerblaine]

Totally impressed by this.

[@Campbell5339]

Intriguing

[@kalt1976]

I am fascinated by how he pronounces his k-sounds really hard.

[@ShaneSmith-t7n]

Fantastic video, excellent guy, full respect..

[@alxen9814]

He could easily play a character in Tarantino movie.

[@bendoyle5023]

Didnt realise Peter Crouch did this in his spare time

[@misanthrophex]

Well, what I would have liked is for him Scott to provides with some sources to learn these techniques. I am a person who always seeks compromise, and I think that I would benefit from learning to be a bit more demanding in some way, and not just me, the world seems to think of a cooperative person as a pushover, which is such a strange thing that people have...

[@kloee7254]

Remarkable story thank you for sharing Scott

[@meriemthephilanthropist4456]

What a great video! Very informative

[@rama_lama_ding_dong]

In the advert: Charlie Kirk asks how much? 70?80?. Sir if 10% that's 0.15°... a LOT of impact we can change

[@FIshFamz]

This guy must be lethal at a car boot sale

[@HOXHOXHOX]

aighhhhht, negotiate me too daddy

[@redcloud8444]

Has there any case that he did not gave any money to the kidnapper and still got the hostages back?

[@BiRRdYYChannel]

Plot twist: He get‘s 50% and is just there to find out how much money there actually is to get

[@chopper1lady]

Why is the girl behind the screen getting subtitles? It's very clear what she says

[@rama_lama_ding_dong]

Better question to consume the entire interview: imagine a world when hostage negotiators are extraneous, where you need to reskill.

[@nickyang1143]

Another intefvew with this chap please. Or scott, srart a youtube channel

[@650kfit5]

Rule #1 Negotiatiors negogiate Commanders command

[@TheCCproductionsCC]

great video

[@Nightchick333]

Do cops hold individuals hostage by framing individuals with crimes they were near but not involved in. In addition is it possible if the victim can charged with petty crimes or any crime that the officer can use to keep the victim within the state or jurisdiction to isolate the victim from help?

[@nikmohammadnoori190]

My brother is kidnapped. It’s been 8 days now. I am the one communicating with the kidnappers. This is really helpful. Our next call is in 6 hrs.

[@obliviousMatrix7]

You can see he's seen some funked up shit in he's career

[@shoppster300]

Dude sounds like he's trying to sell me a timeshare in Senegal.

[@valk5693]

So after the kidnappers get the money they don’t get arrested? Also wouldn’t they think that the person giving them money is the cops.

[@papiparr]

Random I know - Love the watch, does anyone know what it is?

[@nellebuhrmann5343]

Sjoe.......I've got lots of questions.........it seems that arresting the people who did the kidnapping is not a priority????

[@noxe6413]

I don t think that s his job ?

[@dec________________]

I wonder when military like SAS is called in vs. just keeping it to solely negotiation and handing over money

[@Heopful]

I think i've read Seal team 6, when clearing rooms train to shoot the enemy in the head even if they're holding a hostage in front of them. The text mentioned they would use team-members as simulated hostages, so they'd be shooting

[@Kallyy]

This guy would make a killing selling insurance

[@kvt-cg3og]

Obviously this role requires nerves of steel. However, let’s be real- there are many people capable of handing over great wedges of money to kidnappers. The courier is in a far riskier role. Making these huge payouts saves one life whilst simultaneously feeding into a system that will end up claiming more lives than he has saved. It’s a false economy that only benefits the criminal gangs in the end.

[@wrek]

That's a very rehearsed story, well told for sure but very well rehearsed.

[@alexpenkethman196]

Patrick Bamford aged ten years very quickly

[@JURASSICJACK303]

I'd love to see snoop dogg on snack wars

[@Sam-gw5pl]

He’d be pretty hungry

[@JURASSICJACK303]

@@Sam-gw5pl yeah

[@kyleb91]

So the kidnappers actually got 300k?

[@dixiewade8373]

I am going to find it, thanks

[@MrMcChuckles95]

"Well most of the money" 😅

[@YourFriendDevin]

Despite his looks, this guy is actually 22 years old.

[@FractalityX]

The women in these comments want this man to listen to them 😂

[@WillOfFiree]

Jack bauer taught this guy

[@ianchessall7610]

Normal sized Peter Crouch

[@peachesjackofski8363]

I can’t help ,when I watch these types of videos, that they are only informing the baddies. I know they will hold back crucial information and tips, but still.

[@detruth-s3t]

I just go to any government web sites thats were you find the majority

[@reneehomen2226]

Kidnappers are a bunch of snakes! Get a job ! Ughhh. Idk how it is in the UK but here in the U.S. the government/ police will not negotiate with kidnappers. The poor hostages.

[@MasthaX]

How I deal with terrorists you ask? Watch Tropic's Thunder Les Grossman.

[@ryanwillis2513]

He's not a cop he's MI6. Look at the signs people.

[@BonesyTucson]

I do like these episodes, but I think a better interviewer with a better voice than Maryana would help improve the videos. She doesn't seem particularly skilled at talking to people, like she's just reading a piece of paper.

[@TomFooleryTheAustere]

Gee, what a fine chap, only, he’s just explained to anyone looking for a career in kidnapping that the negotiator is full of shit and whomever he’s speaking on behalf of definitely has more money than they’re letting on.

[@9yearsundercover]

93% sucess rate is astronomical but necessary. In our occupation there is room for a missed shot. A missed shot is a life lost