How Iroh's Son Died

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TheAvatarist

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@mojarncs
@mojarncs 3 жыл бұрын
Iroh ain't really a pacifist. You can see on the show that he isn't afraid to use nessessary force to get things done.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 3 жыл бұрын
Very true, he gets stuff done as a master Fire Bender.
@NessaEllenesse
@NessaEllenesse 3 жыл бұрын
He is a technical pacifist. Yes that is a thing. He only uses force when there are no other alternatives
@notengonombre_
@notengonombre_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@NessaEllenesse agreed
@epicgamerzfail4575
@epicgamerzfail4575 3 жыл бұрын
@@NessaEllenesse that ain't a pacifist. Pacifist will not fight no matter what, and will actively avoid violence
@rdd90
@rdd90 3 жыл бұрын
@@epicgamerzfail4575 Not all pacifists are the same. What you're describing is called absolute pacifism, but there are plenty of people who call themselves pacifists who don't go that far. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifism
@lacintag5482
@lacintag5482 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Lu Ten's death being a conspiracy weakens the story. Lu Ten dying by following his father's footsteps is a lot more appropriate, and would make Iroh question his life choices.
@its_xvie8558
@its_xvie8558 3 жыл бұрын
That is what happened isn’t it?
@AtarahDerek
@AtarahDerek 3 жыл бұрын
You could easily have it both ways. My head canon is that Iroh gave Lu Ten the chance to call off that last major push before it happened, and Lu Ten, though unsure they would manage it, went through with his father's wishes, not wanting to see him let down. But the risk gave Ozai's agent the perfect opportunity to take Lu Ten down. Which resulted in Iroh blaming himself for not paying attention to Lu Ten's misgivings.
@Heligoland360
@Heligoland360 3 жыл бұрын
@@AtarahDerek Still weakens the story, as it turns less from a warning against jingoism, and more into don't trust Ozai. Iroh may *think* his fighting the war resulted in his son's death, but we *know* it was actually Ozai's fault.
@AtarahDerek
@AtarahDerek 3 жыл бұрын
@@Heligoland360 I don't think it does. Iroh would still blame himself for even going to Ba Sing Se in the first place. He would simply add blaming Ozai on top of that.
@Heligoland360
@Heligoland360 3 жыл бұрын
@@AtarahDerek Had Iroh killed Ozai *then* gone to war his son would still be alive. This means the war is essentially irrelevant to Iroh's judgement as the death if his son no longer falls on him and his war mongering, but on his trust of his brother.
@meatiest1989
@meatiest1989 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a dad and finding out your son died in a siege that was planned by you... The pain
@vanjasoskic9454
@vanjasoskic9454 3 жыл бұрын
Titus Manlius Torquatus ordered his sons execution after the latter disobeyed an order not to engage the enemy
@blaumoth7360
@blaumoth7360 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanjasoskic9454 When German forces captured Stalin's son. Hitler offers to give him back in exchange for a field marshal and Stalin simply sent back 'i will not trade a field marshal for a lieutenant'
@vanjasoskic9454
@vanjasoskic9454 3 жыл бұрын
@@blaumoth7360 Stalin was based
@hausuandim1193
@hausuandim1193 3 жыл бұрын
The germans captured stalins son Stalin did not care. Stalins son once tried suicide but failed. When Stalin heard about this he said "My son can't even aim a gun properly"
@galaxygimbiino8544
@galaxygimbiino8544 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my Dad AND Mom feels that pain on the spiritual level, the middle of Summer of this very year they lost their first born daughter (AKA my eldest sister, who I was more became more close to ever since I became of age), and the thing baffled us the most was, she didn't have liquor in her system the morning it happened, she QUIT drinking altogether four months before the tragedy. I can't imagine the pain of having a child, whom YOU brought into this world, and build them up to become a phenomenal person in general, only for them to be taken out...That's beyond sorrowful. Whoever murdered Iroh's son, I hope they're rotting in the fog of Forgotten Souls (A said location in the spirit realm as seen in Korra). Because judging by how Iroh carries himself in general, I'm assuming his son must've been a very sweet boy...Basically being a chip off the ol block, as they always say~
@bajramtahiri1576
@bajramtahiri1576 3 жыл бұрын
The new avatar studios should really consider giving iroh a mini series explaining more about his past, spirituality, and how he gained wisdom, and how he joined the white lotus… ect…..
@tupacshakur5868
@tupacshakur5868 3 жыл бұрын
i disagree, one thing that makes this charakter great is that not everything about him is written out you just have enough hints to get almost a full picture
@bajramtahiri1576
@bajramtahiri1576 3 жыл бұрын
@@tupacshakur5868 yeah but it would be so entertaining to watch
@candycassy2641
@candycassy2641 3 жыл бұрын
How he entered the spirit world not being the avatar, and how he saw the dang dragon
@Jenny-tm3cm
@Jenny-tm3cm 3 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@seekerandroses
@seekerandroses 3 жыл бұрын
No mainly because the original voice actor is dead no one can replace him
@hulkman245
@hulkman245 3 жыл бұрын
Except Ozai could have never guessed that Iroh would just give up on the siege and come home after his son had died. It would make more sense for Ozai to have Iroh killed
@RaftTheDaq
@RaftTheDaq 3 жыл бұрын
When an Emperor choose an heir, they somehow chose an heir that can produce another heir for the throne. Since Lu Ten is Iroh's only heir, it is plausible that Ozai targetted Lu Ten due to this fact. If he went against Iroh directly, the percentage of it is happening is low because Iroh is surrounded by his trusted people and hardly have any window for an assassination to happen. Having Iroh giving up Ba Sing Se's siege is a bonus for Ozai and merely speed things up for him.
@AtarahDerek
@AtarahDerek 3 жыл бұрын
Ozai is fairly decent at reading people. Not anywhere near as much so as Azula, but he does know Iroh well enough to know exactly how Iroh would respond to losing his son.
@Jade_1872
@Jade_1872 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah cause for all he knew Iroh may have gotten angrier and burned the city to the ground, I think he just took his opportunity when he saw his brother weak
@albaestrada8603
@albaestrada8603 7 ай бұрын
Nah, ozai looks elite at reading people lol azula is inferior asof now probably due to age. I'm sure azula in her prime might be better but she looks much more fragile in ego and mental health. You don't rule like ozai without being able to anticipate and interpret people's intentions but he just doesn't care and is a narcissism to others feelings. He wants world domination
@southafricaninternetvideos3461
@southafricaninternetvideos3461 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense... but I like the idea that his father (Iroh) gave him (son) marching orders and he (son) followed them and died. Hence Iroh had to sit with the fact that he had ordered his son to his own death.... no assassination or anything, just the brutality of war.
@chocolateblocks
@chocolateblocks 3 жыл бұрын
I think Lu Ten simply died in battle. And if they got rid of that it would've sort of destroyed the point, similar to how lacintag (top comment) explains it. Also not only that but it was also sort of in honor of Mako, the voice actor of Iroh as well in some aspects. Still a good theory though.
@rehaankale7656
@rehaankale7656 3 жыл бұрын
You do have a point I suppose this matter is worth looking into
@amazeangelogames3165
@amazeangelogames3165 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@rajeshyeager4995
@rajeshyeager4995 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your earthliness
@zodiacaz147
@zodiacaz147 3 жыл бұрын
i think iroh has been kind of the same road like zuko at the beginning. He also desired power like ozai. After his son's death saw his mistakes thats why Iroh always tried to correct Zuko's steps .For not ending up at the same path. Its like Iroh had Zuko as he's own son
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 жыл бұрын
Iroh is technically more of a father than ozai was to zuko
@proxali1461
@proxali1461 8 ай бұрын
No he spared the dragons. Remember that.
@Ghost-gp6ct
@Ghost-gp6ct 8 ай бұрын
​​@@proxali1461Well, Zuko did some good things before siding with Azula and betraying both Iroh and Katara in Ba Sing Se. If Iroh was a good man since the beginning, why did he decided to continue the war and lay siege in Ba Sing Se, a massive city with a lot of population. While, there is no account of casualties on that siege, it is safe to assume that there is a probably a thousands of casualties on both side, since the siege lasted for 600 days, there is also the factor of starvation among the civilian populace. That is pretty much an example of Iroh wanting power, he didn't care for the lives under his command or the people they are conquering, he just wanted the entire Earth Kingdom. Iroh losing his son in a war that he decided to continue allow him to reflect upon his action. Just like how Zuko reflect on his action even though, he had finally earn his father's acceptance. In the end both had realize the error of their ways and try to better themselves. In the case of Iroh, instead of fighting for his throne, he decided to be a father figure to Zuko, and even accompany his nephew in exile, trying to guide him in his destiny. Just like, how Zuko decided that he won't be like his father and taught Aang firebending.
@jimx45
@jimx45 8 ай бұрын
Lu Ten following his father and fighting for his honor and dying might make sense because it created the trauma of Iroh seeing the same thing happening with Zuko and Ozai.
@funguy5624
@funguy5624 3 жыл бұрын
''These archers can kill peoples from hundreds of miles away'' ... *doubt*
@dragonhunter6361
@dragonhunter6361 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, was just searching for this comment😂
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 2 жыл бұрын
A tree can hit a fly from a 100 Yu Yan's away without killing the tree
@SeanUCF
@SeanUCF 8 ай бұрын
In other words, their arrows can fly as far as ICBMs and have pin point accuracy. Sounds about right 🧐
@Cyxap1844
@Cyxap1844 8 ай бұрын
I mean the Archers could shoot at Zuko long distance when he captured Aang as the blue spirit
@SeanUCF
@SeanUCF 8 ай бұрын
@@Cyxap1844 Yeah, that's at most dozens of feet. SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES is a cross country trip. if you think someone standing in Miami could hit someone with a bow and arrow the lives in Alabama, then I've got a bridge to sell you.
@Hektols
@Hektols 2 жыл бұрын
While the theory of Ozai having Lu Ten killed makes a lot of sense I think that he died while taking unnecesary risks trying to impress his father, explaining why Iroh blames himself for his death and his new approach to life and why he wants to protect Zuko, not wanting his nephew to end like his son in an attempt to impress his father.
@hariengradford2699
@hariengradford2699 2 жыл бұрын
Despite the bad things Iroh has done, the scenes that show his love of tea and gentleness was what he was like even before the siege
@efoxkitsune9493
@efoxkitsune9493 2 жыл бұрын
True. Like him protecting the dragons happened before Ba Sing Se, afaik. He already had all of that in him. It's not like he was a monster before and then suddenly did a complete 180 when Lu Ten died.
@albaestrada8603
@albaestrada8603 7 ай бұрын
Yeah but would you say that to Hitler or other real world evil powerful men? It's hard to imagine iroh being a general and in a war and him not doing incredibly wicked things to others. Like anyone ever, I'm sure he had some nice things you can say about him but he was cruel overall.
@mr_clean91
@mr_clean91 5 ай бұрын
Personally I prefer the the idea that Lu Ten was killed by an arrow shot by an Earth Nation peasant who himself was incinerated seconds later by Fire Nation artillery on day 599 during the assault on the outer wall. Had he stood a foot to either side it would have missed. Had he been an inch taller it would have deflected off his armor. I think that him simply being killed in battle in a completely random way alongside thousands of of other soldiers, as well as the specific circumstances being unknown to Iroh is important for his character. It forced him to recognize that Royals aren't special. Not everyone gets a chance to go down in a a heroic last stand or epic duel against an enemy champion. Sometimes even the most powerful benders with the best training and equipment get unlucky. Iroh not knowing exactly what happened further reinforces this and is a constant reminder of the human cost. Its a hint that no one who was with Lu Ten and saw what happened survived.
@ccondelli
@ccondelli 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder who Lu Ten's mother is. Now there's a story!
@W1ND0WP4YN3
@W1ND0WP4YN3 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace, Lu Ten
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 Жыл бұрын
According to some recently released, Lu Ten was mortally injured during an assault on the wall. He didn’t die immediately, but Iroh wasn’t even notified until after after Lu Ten succumbed to his injuries.
@armandogarza3423
@armandogarza3423 8 ай бұрын
Uncle Iroh never train Aang, which totally shocked me.
@tuplat5107
@tuplat5107 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda hate the idea that Ozai murdered Lu Ten, not only because it's kinda unlikely (as why wouldn't he murder Iroh also) but also because it's a thematic mess. Iroh's son as a unfortunete consequense of war that made him rethink what's valuable to him. It made him see that whatever benefit Sozin saw in the unification of the four nations wasn't worth the cost. It didn't change Iroh into a pasifist but he decided that if he is going to sacrifice anyone ever again it should be for a cause worth dying for and not just ambitious conquest And Lu Ten's falling in glorious combat also shows the audience the real cost of war, since there really weren't any characters that died on-screen and even off-screen Lu Ten is pretty much the only named character that died fighting in the war (Jet and Katara's mom died off-screen I quess but they didn't really die fighting in the war)
@digibeats4751
@digibeats4751 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would’ve gone more along the lines of Iroh had to choose between either finishing the siege and saving his son, and he chose to try to continue/finish the siege. Once he realized what he’d done, he’d call off the mission to try to search for his son, but it would be too late.
@louisxivleroisoleildebourb9780
@louisxivleroisoleildebourb9780 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a comment on some video suggesting that Ozai conspired with Long Feng to kill Lu Ten.
@CooperBurns
@CooperBurns 3 жыл бұрын
I’m running a DND campaign that has a fire nation prisoner with a message on how to win the fight at ba sing se. she has to break out of the fire nation with Lu ten chasing the team. Eventually lu ten sees the terrible things that the fire nation has done and flips on them joining the party. In s2 the finally will be the fight at ba sing se and he will die. The party knows it’s coming… they just don’t know when
@michaelrobertson4896
@michaelrobertson4896 2 жыл бұрын
The theory isn’t all that far off, considering that Ozai poisoned Azulon in order to gain the throne. So Ozai was clearly capable of eliminating his own family members. Even Zuko was on the chopping block until Ursa saved him by providing the very poison that killed Azulon. So it’s not inconceivable for this to be true.
@adamallen8787
@adamallen8787 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so weird how there names go Sozin, Azulon, Iroh, like that’s weird but then all of a sudden Lu Ten, then Zuko and Azula
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 2 жыл бұрын
What's wierd is that the name Lu Ten, is suggestively from the Earth Kingdom, not the fire nation. Idk, maybe Irohs wife came from the colonies, and that's just the reason why
@adamallen8787
@adamallen8787 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntfoperative9432 We never even hear anything about his wife but knowing Azulon if he joined Avatar Rokus granddaughter and Ozai (his second born) then he definitely wouldn’t let his first born marry a colonist
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamallen8787 Idk, maybe, but it also seems Iroh had a little more freedom, maybe because of his military prowess
@adamallen8787
@adamallen8787 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntfoperative9432 I guess that makes sense and it isn’t unlikely that he wouldn’t fall for a noblewoman in the colonies since he campaigned so much but you would think that since Azulon was definitely grooming Iroh to replace him he wouldn’t let him have so much freedom
@tapinntwin
@tapinntwin 3 жыл бұрын
that would make azula that much more understanding in how she’s so manipulative
@socialistrepublicofambia2546
@socialistrepublicofambia2546 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute… who even was Iroh’s wife/Lu ten’s mother.
@fifageak7461
@fifageak7461 2 жыл бұрын
They should make a comic book or mini Serie about Lu Ten, this character although being minor has the biggest influence on the show, if he didnt die Iroh would become fire lord and big chance he would rule it excactly like Sozin and Azulon did, with Lu Ten by his side. If Lu ten didnt die Ozai didn't had a reason to claim the throne and Zuko was never banished because Ozai was never a fire lord in the first place, we know so little about Lu Ten but he influenced the show so hard, a comic book about hik would be nice but have a mini serie dedicated about him and Iroh would be amazing
@derrickbartledoo2680
@derrickbartledoo2680 2 жыл бұрын
At a glance, the thumbnail looks like Iroh sipping tea as a battlefield burns behind him.
@sjcobra84
@sjcobra84 2 жыл бұрын
Iroh made choices and as a result, his son lost his life.
@quintinwright8487
@quintinwright8487 3 жыл бұрын
That's sounds about right even though it's a theory it sounds like somethin Ozai would do
@magicprison
@magicprison 3 жыл бұрын
i just shed a tear..
@neonblue4758
@neonblue4758 3 жыл бұрын
Y does yt say ur verified🤕
@afkpotatoyt4346
@afkpotatoyt4346 3 жыл бұрын
Me too me too..
@ian2008931
@ian2008931 8 ай бұрын
Iroh was the officer in charge, he planned the battle plan knowing fully well that his son, a capable soldier, will be there to execute his command.. and then his son died.
@desiraejenks2608
@desiraejenks2608 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought about Ozai killing Lu Ten it makes since.
@Gingerbred_Hed
@Gingerbred_Hed 8 ай бұрын
Love it! We need a longer version of this theory.
@_cr4shi672
@_cr4shi672 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine iroh would find out about it
@_cr4shi672
@_cr4shi672 3 жыл бұрын
@Ministry of Mystics yes probably and like it was said it the video, he only blames himself
@jackofalltraids2690
@jackofalltraids2690 2 жыл бұрын
I think if it played out like this he would know even in the spirit world
@omarpereyra6255
@omarpereyra6255 3 жыл бұрын
I was literally looking for info on this a couple days ago and could find nothing thanks this is great
@AntonPayne614-22
@AntonPayne614-22 3 жыл бұрын
Ozai having lu ten killed is very beilevable
@darrenharriott2120
@darrenharriott2120 8 ай бұрын
Iroh saw himself in Zucko as a young man and did not want him to go down his path .
@ashlynwolff
@ashlynwolff 8 ай бұрын
In my mind Lu Ten befriended some newbies from one devision which was sent to front lines before 41st devision. Lu Ten went with them without telling anyone and died with many new recruits. Also Ozai always had desire for power. So I don't have a doubt that he could scheme to get Iroh and Lu Ten out of his way. No wonder Azulon went completely mad about Ozai's suggestion for taking over
@ginantsfan5
@ginantsfan5 Жыл бұрын
" My beloved Lu-Ten I will see you again."😢
@avatarkana1161
@avatarkana1161 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine there’s a scene where iroh finds out that Ozai had his son killed, confronts him (with Team Avatar being there) then he breaks down in tears and then DOES NOT get angry but rather just walks away sobbing repeating to himself, “ so it was you… it was you.. it was you” Then Ozai expecting anger and backlash from iroh is stunned and then he starts to finally Cry and show remorse apologising stuttering while trying to say it and then goes mad and cries like Azula did in the finale… on the floor screaming… Add the SFX… Voila spectacular
@avatarkana1161
@avatarkana1161 3 жыл бұрын
@C M bro I said “imagine” lol And I think him going mad is a befitting end isn’t it? So basically everything you just said makes him go mad after realising how evil he is. But it took that heart wrenching realisation, of what he did to iroh in order for him to finally tip into insanity. Plus he would join his mad daughter who is just the same. Like I said. Voila spectacular.
@robertisham5279
@robertisham5279 2 жыл бұрын
Nah Ozai would never do that.
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 2 жыл бұрын
I could never see Ozai doing that, because I'm pretty sure Ozai is a literal Psychopath
@CliffRichardFan2001
@CliffRichardFan2001 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t see Ozai doing that but I can imagine Iroh’s reaction being the way you described it. In all honesty, I picture Ozai laughing at Iroh’s pain and grief.
@josephanderson2781
@josephanderson2781 3 жыл бұрын
2:20 from hundreds of MILES away???
@wwiiialldeadearthisalive6111
@wwiiialldeadearthisalive6111 2 жыл бұрын
Fire lord Azulon stated “you dare I betray Iroh, my first born” Azulon was testing Ozai to see if Ozai would betray his first born and if so I think he would’ve banished or killed Ozai because I heard Azulon was ruthless and old ppl definitely still know how to GET DOWN.
@aujizulkefli4341
@aujizulkefli4341 8 ай бұрын
Iroh once going to spirit world to find his son ( in water bender arc I think general already mentioned about his journey) . That's why he can see anng flying with Roku dragon .
@RedBird9721
@RedBird9721 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos
@heesel4089
@heesel4089 3 жыл бұрын
"Little soldier boy, come marching home"
@timza3778
@timza3778 2 жыл бұрын
i hope that you get over 100000000 views you make brief videos that are FULL of info
@waheedabdullah6371
@waheedabdullah6371 9 ай бұрын
*Lu Ten didn't need it because he was the strongest person I knew*
@koroagami9456
@koroagami9456 3 жыл бұрын
I like to think Iroh son was assassinated by someone with in the fire nation army for Ozai to become the next Fire Lord
@gabrielhenriquesilva2014
@gabrielhenriquesilva2014 2 жыл бұрын
I think he just died in the siege , smashed in the huge external walls leading his own group .
@shaylawatson1244
@shaylawatson1244 2 жыл бұрын
When. I was younger I always had a feeling ozai had something to do with his own nephew death
@Zcp105
@Zcp105 8 ай бұрын
I just don't see any of the Archers obeying Ozai in this. After all, Lu Ten was also a member of the royal family, and if anything, had more prominance than Ozai at this point because he's in the line of sucession.
@ratava2285
@ratava2285 3 жыл бұрын
Is it only me that noticed that the background of the thumbnail is in avatar Wan's dying time place.
@Theprogamer-2006
@Theprogamer-2006 3 жыл бұрын
No, I noticed it
@ast8177
@ast8177 3 жыл бұрын
**I don't like that theory a lot, HEAR ME OUT** Simply for the fact that Ihro was about the loss that came as a result of the war, and turning it into jet another Familydrama of the Royal Family would not only serve no purpose cause Zuko who already has the role of a prince betrayed by Osai, but also take the fact away that War means loss caused by both sides, even if the "supposedly" bad guys attack, they still experience the same pain caused by the ones they attack.
@notengonombre_
@notengonombre_ 3 жыл бұрын
Wait could you explain it again? I'm confused what your telling tho
@ast8177
@ast8177 3 жыл бұрын
@@notengonombre_ ihro was about the fact that not all firenation is evil, but also that not all pain in war is caused by the firanation, but just as a natural result of the nature of war. That's why Ihro bevame such a pacifist and not someone that started to blame the firanation nor the earthkingdom, cause ihro realised that no matter what side you go with you will lose something. That's why his son dying by the earthkingdom is important. It shows us that war can be cruel, even for the people of the firanation. Ozai killing Lu ten would just be another story of "Bad guy doing bad thing to his family" (Sry if my english messed up, i'm not a native speaker)
@notengonombre_
@notengonombre_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ast8177 Oh ok got it, but I think what he was trying to say is Lu Tens death was a planned death for the plot, but which can still be bad for Iroh but I think your idea is good because that's how Iroh gets his earthly connection
@turbatbayaraa6186
@turbatbayaraa6186 8 ай бұрын
I always imagined it as Iroh laying a major siege on basinse with Luten impatiently wanting to prove himself as a capable commander to both Iroh and Azulon, in which both would support
@BrianAwesome
@BrianAwesome 3 жыл бұрын
@TheAvatarist, What if Luten never went to the earth Kingdom ? What if he went, but survived ?
@hanscascante7933
@hanscascante7933 8 ай бұрын
Iroh is the kind of man that keeps evil at bay: a good man skilled in the art of violence
@charlesmento5968
@charlesmento5968 3 жыл бұрын
Wait I need to see this in writing to understand. WHY would Ozai kill Iroh's son?
@jenaldleobertechipare2065
@jenaldleobertechipare2065 3 жыл бұрын
Iroh is the crown prince and not Ozai. If Lu Ten will die, Iroh won't have any successor after he became fire lord
@jameszoeller1517
@jameszoeller1517 8 ай бұрын
Iroh's story works better if Lu Ten is a victim of his ambitions.
@matthew8153
@matthew8153 8 ай бұрын
Remember: this is a children’s show. And honestly, more kid shows need to be like this.
@BurritoF3V3R
@BurritoF3V3R 6 ай бұрын
New title: How you think Iroh’s son died
@Peopleyay
@Peopleyay 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the scene of him launching what looks like a small comet on that monument from?
@shawnsouth327
@shawnsouth327 3 жыл бұрын
This makes too much sense
@flawlessvictory6470
@flawlessvictory6470 3 жыл бұрын
NoooooOOOO!!!! Ozai probably had zhao kill lu ten. Zhao and lu ten probably know each other and are important officers. That’s why zhao is so close to ozai as his depending men.
@yubeda-k6k-s2r
@yubeda-k6k-s2r 2 жыл бұрын
Compassion is a french word taken from latin compati. It's definition quite literally is : to suffer with. You suffer with others. You understand suffering. That's humility. And that's iroh as a character.
@aliy.o
@aliy.o 7 ай бұрын
The writers definitely should give focus on Iroh’s past life and lui ten instead of post Aang’s era. There are a lot of stuff can be form a good scenario. Relation with his father and his son, Ba sing se chronicles, meeting the masters entering the spirit world and white lotus and etc. a journey through the warmonger general to guru in peace could be a wonderful prequel. We have grown with the Avatar, may be adding little more adult’s dilemma would continue the curiosity of the gen Y 😅
@ahmedmahgoub85
@ahmedmahgoub85 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that irohs wife blamed him and yelled at iroh then commited suicide from her sons death causing iroh to lose everything due to war making him hate war and become a pacifist
@ByGraceWeAreSave
@ByGraceWeAreSave 3 жыл бұрын
I am not against this as it make sense. I would actually like to see you do a lot more theory vids.
@CaliToTheCrowd
@CaliToTheCrowd Ай бұрын
having Ozai kill Lu Ten takes away that it was Iroh's faults that killed his son. IMO this theory make Iroh's story less compelling
@IronVigilance
@IronVigilance 9 ай бұрын
I have a saying "The most dangerous man isn't the one who can destroy the world. It's one who can, but chooses not to."
@chggh716
@chggh716 3 жыл бұрын
Pease do a book 4 they need to do every legend in there iroh is not a avatar but a fire legend
@dan584
@dan584 3 жыл бұрын
2:21 I'm just thinking about overanalyzing avatar
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 2 жыл бұрын
A Tree can pin a yard to a Yu Yan from a 100flys away without killing the Yu Yan
@SirToaster9330
@SirToaster9330 Жыл бұрын
I thought Iroh's son got sick in his youth, but this is horrible
@RedFloyd469
@RedFloyd469 3 жыл бұрын
2:17 "Now these archers can kill people without a trace from hundreds of miles away." Tiny mistake, but I'm guessing you meant "yards", not "miles". Nice hypothesis though. (not a theory, as a theory requires evidence. But most people confuse the two concepts anyway.) Ozai is definitely enough of a psychopath and ambitious enough to do all of these things and more just to get into power. Thematically, however, I feel like it takes away a bit of the message that the show is trying to portray with Iroh. Iroh at the very least believes that it is his own fault that Lu Ten died. His radical change of character is due to his soul-searching and the wisdom he found later on, that war only breeds death and destruction, not glory like the fire nation propagates. If Ozai is responsible, I feel like that would ruin the actual life-lesson, even if it is a plausible scenario.
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 2 жыл бұрын
A Yu Yan can pin a tree to a yard from a 100 flys away without killing the Yu Yan
@neonblue4758
@neonblue4758 3 жыл бұрын
R.i.p
@skettlez9732
@skettlez9732 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just kill Iroh? Wouldn't it make more sense?
@qiralyncassette
@qiralyncassette 3 жыл бұрын
Ozai would still have a problem: Lu Ten.
@ALBERTICO1967
@ALBERTICO1967 Жыл бұрын
I think there was always SOME good in Iron, since he spared the dragons he claimed he killed
@CaptainPilipinas
@CaptainPilipinas Жыл бұрын
'-'scAry'~' - blacklight. [Boredly Yawns at ozai's Petty Ridiculousness (02:15)]
@SomeRandomGuy-zw7sf
@SomeRandomGuy-zw7sf 7 ай бұрын
*little soldier boy come marching home*
@sharkynom2674
@sharkynom2674 3 жыл бұрын
didnt he already drink tea before lu ten died
@ZAR556
@ZAR556 8 ай бұрын
nah, it'll be more poetic if Lu Ten died because of Iroh ambition assassination is very generic and predictable plot
@AtarahDerek
@AtarahDerek 3 жыл бұрын
My theory was just that Ozai blackmailed one of Lu Ten's officers to do him in at the opportune moment.
@chsparkle
@chsparkle 8 ай бұрын
Good theory though I do think Lu Ten just died as a result of the war, not Ozai having him killed. He may still have had plans to kill one or both of them but may have been fairly content to see if war got them first. When Lu Ten died, it feels like Ozai seized the opportunity to present himself as heir, rather than it being part of a plan.
@shivmalik9405
@shivmalik9405 15 күн бұрын
Just a correction- Ozai didn’t contact mercenaries, he ordered a Yu Yan archer (a Fire Nation Military unit) to kill him.
@MBnobody420
@MBnobody420 2 жыл бұрын
That fire lord bastard didn't care for his older brother's son?!
@silverstrike5904
@silverstrike5904 9 ай бұрын
Bet this would be a pet the dog moments for iroh if he found that Lu ten has a child that he kept secret from the fire nation
@jefnatuurfilmer
@jefnatuurfilmer 3 жыл бұрын
It does not make things more clear for me.
@hadi.717
@hadi.717 3 жыл бұрын
Iroh is old
@mateot8428
@mateot8428 2 жыл бұрын
Ikem looked like a really cool character.
@_Anuj_372
@_Anuj_372 3 жыл бұрын
So sad
@dillzilla4454
@dillzilla4454 3 жыл бұрын
But the archers miss more than a starwars storm trooper
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 2 жыл бұрын
A yard can pin a fly to a Yu yan from a 100 Yu Yan's away without killing the tree
@onyeinnits554
@onyeinnits554 3 жыл бұрын
hi avatrist
@resultedpants5245
@resultedpants5245 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t say somewhere that lu ten died in an ambush
@mr.magnificent7374
@mr.magnificent7374 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s an extreme long shot. Pun intended and Lu Ten did die in battle so somebody had to have seen that happen.
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 2 жыл бұрын
Plus A fly can pin a Yu Yan to a yard from a 100 trees away without killing the yard
@mr.magnificent7374
@mr.magnificent7374 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntfoperative9432 are you ok?
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.magnificent7374 it's a reference to overanalyzing avatar, and his little joke about the Yu Yan not hitting anything
@mr.magnificent7374
@mr.magnificent7374 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntfoperative9432 thank you
@angrybird6298
@angrybird6298 8 ай бұрын
"How Iroh's son died"-meanwhile missleads it by his theory not backed up by anything...
@ngari117
@ngari117 8 ай бұрын
isn't that what a theory means
@lucariovietnam2145
@lucariovietnam2145 8 ай бұрын
@@ngari117 Yes, but he doesn't say this is just a theory right in the title. We can only see it in the description after we have already clicked on the video. This is what a clickbait is
@Akuma-Zhu-Rong
@Akuma-Zhu-Rong 2 ай бұрын
"He may have become a traitor to the Fire Nation but he is not a pacifist. In war, there are always those who will rise and those who will fall." ~ Akuma ~
@foxgaming1084
@foxgaming1084 8 ай бұрын
Reminds me of King David story He fell in love with a woman but was already married then he gave direct order to put husband in the frontlines when he was sure to be killed. after his death he took the woman in then a profit visited him, and made David snapped out of it and he repent to god. He would not died for his sin but his and the women’s first born son died shortly after giving birth.
@merlijnbal221
@merlijnbal221 3 жыл бұрын
it wouldnt suprise me if ozai did hire a guy to kill lu-ten
@DjuraValtr
@DjuraValtr 8 ай бұрын
ngl an antihero spin off of Iroh would be great.
@darthlazurus4382
@darthlazurus4382 2 жыл бұрын
It's my own opinion that Ozai had nothing tae do with Lu Ten's death. I do not doubt intention was there but opportunity wasn't. Iroh was a respected general so he would hae run a tight ship in his siege tae stop Ba Sing Se getting reinforcements. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I am afraid I dinnae buy your theory. Nae disrespect intended.
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