How Long Nintendo Holds Back Finished Games

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@EvilLucario
@EvilLucario 4 сағат бұрын
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe is the funniest example possible. That game was rated in October 2017, didn't come out until January 2019. In fact, it was so done, that in the credits, it still had Tatsumi Kimishima as the executive producer instead of Furukawa, a stark contrast to some 2018 games like Smash Ultimate and (I think) Let's Go where those had Furukawa as the executive producer. Therefore, it went gold more than six months before release.
@ausgod538
@ausgod538 3 сағат бұрын
I never noticed that this is hilarious
@KoOk-h1d
@KoOk-h1d 6 минут бұрын
Pokemon, let's go, was confirmed to have started development when Pokemon go was released.
@BasVoet
@BasVoet 7 сағат бұрын
Hey Jon! Everyone here!
@dun0790
@dun0790 4 сағат бұрын
Glad you did this video as ive told people this before and they don't believe me even though its obvious sometimes like i reckon metroid prime remastered was finished about 6 months before release and weve had rumours for years the a Mario odyssey 2 is practically finished but being held back for something? Obviously switch 2 at this point if it exists which speaking of im curious how many games devs have that they just couldn't quite get running on switch 1 that will be quickly ported to switch 2? Off the top of my head i can see a lot of capcoms last gen games getting ports like resident evil and monster hunter
@yilli_9109
@yilli_9109 Сағат бұрын
Jon the Woz
@thanhclips
@thanhclips 6 сағат бұрын
Nintendo actually said TotK was completed a year ago before release. Wild stuff.
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 2 сағат бұрын
Content complete, yes. But they still did a ton of polishing after that.
@mastropieros
@mastropieros Сағат бұрын
I don't remember reading that anywhere... source?
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 21 минут бұрын
@@mastropieros it was one of those developer interviews, but I can’t link it here without KZbin flagging me for spam.
@KoOk-h1d
@KoOk-h1d 6 минут бұрын
​@Neoxon619 Watch the Nintendo delay of totk. It's in the official channel.
@briansilva3765
@briansilva3765 7 сағат бұрын
This is a mark of a very healthy business. They fine tuned the art of managing dozens of developers, each with games of varying scales, planned years in advance that they never ran out of releases. This is also probably due to decades of having separate home and console divisions, now that those are consolidated, they probably ended up with way more resources than any other company would have.
@afxquest6167
@afxquest6167 4 сағат бұрын
And there all mediocre
@LuckyBenjamin_
@LuckyBenjamin_ 4 сағат бұрын
​@afxquest6167 they're* and its subjective. Also I'm sorry that you find them mediocre it must suck to not enjoy something that others do.
@afxquest6167
@afxquest6167 3 сағат бұрын
@ the only good games that are worth 60$ is Zelda,Luigis mansion and 3D Mario the rest are overpriced phone games
@LinkNinjaMaster
@LinkNinjaMaster 2 сағат бұрын
​@@afxquest6167Ah yes, Xenoblade Chronicles 1 2 and 3, action RPGs with great visuals, in-depth combat systems, extensive stories and expansive worlds, with zero micro-transactions, the common example of a cheap mobile game.
@gobbagoo
@gobbagoo Сағат бұрын
@@afxquest6167ah yes luigis mansion 2 hd, the pinnacle of what id spend 60$ on
@gaminglakitu
@gaminglakitu 6 сағат бұрын
I think this also just shows how efficient Nintendo is as a developer with their close partners, the fact that they can have these games ready for years, and can continue to keep dropping games afterwards with such a steady stream of great games
@trayhl
@trayhl 7 сағат бұрын
Look, this may be a hot take, but I think it's great they sit on games like that. It's just good management! It allows proper time for polishing without death marches. And it helps players both "always have something to play" and "never have too much to play" It sucks not being able to talk about them for portifolio reasons, but thats commom in the whole industry. I think it's a terrific practice and part of the secret to "nintendo polish" (the other part being proper scoping)
@MelonSpeedruns
@MelonSpeedruns 6 сағат бұрын
I completely agree! Though in most cases, once a game is done, the team will move on to another project rreally quickly and not really polish it for years and years.
@trayhl
@trayhl 6 сағат бұрын
@MelonSpeedruns it depends on the game most likely. For big games the team can remain to work on polish and potential DLC For other games, the team may be downsized for polish as most of the team moves on. Or it goes as you said. Game is done, everyone moves on. But to have that extra time without the stress for a close release date DEFINITELY helps in all cases IMO.
@joshuajames5707
@joshuajames5707 6 сағат бұрын
Completely uninitiated in business here, what’s scoping?
@ethanhaynes7406
@ethanhaynes7406 6 сағат бұрын
​​@@joshuajames5707scoping is basically how big or how many features your game will have. A good game lead should be able to properly predict how many features a team can fit into a game in X amount of time and budget. A common pit fall of many game studios is over-scoping (meaning trying to add too many features) leading to delays, crunch, and unpolished games. Examples of Over-scoping are games like Star Citizen, Cyberpunk, and Fallout 76 Edit: another term you might hear that means the same thing is "feature creep". A reason Nintendo is usually pretty good with keeping in scope is that they always pitch games based exclusively on features, meaning they'll go into a project already knowing what will be the main gameplay mechanics and if they are possible. They also focus on a few major features and heavily develop them. Recent examples would be the sheikah ruins and physics system of Botw or Cappy Transformations in Mario Odyssey
@ethanhaynes7406
@ethanhaynes7406 5 сағат бұрын
​@@joshuajames5707if you're interested in game development or just find it interesting I would highly reccomend going to DoubleFine's youtube channel and watching their 20+ hour documentary on the making of psychonauts 2 called "psychodyssey". It is probably the best documentary ever made and is the video game equivalent of the behind the scenes films of The lord of the rings
@jaycie586
@jaycie586 7 сағат бұрын
"Concord (nothing)" ouch...
@GalaxiaSword
@GalaxiaSword 7 сағат бұрын
Maybe the real Concord was the friends we made along the way.
@samusismyhero
@samusismyhero 6 сағат бұрын
This is the comment was looking for. They tried the same approach and failed 😂
@brendantjeerdsma492
@brendantjeerdsma492 6 сағат бұрын
Concord? More like Concordia! M&L for the win
@aionicthunder
@aionicthunder 6 сағат бұрын
I mean, the game only lasted two weeks. That's way more of an ouch than anything we could say
@RGamePlayXtreme
@RGamePlayXtreme 4 сағат бұрын
Checked the website out for Metroid Prime Remastered - the game was rated on July 27th, 2021 but released in February 2023
@char1194
@char1194 6 сағат бұрын
Watching this as a fire emblem fan is so funny. I remember the times when the community started growing crazy from a lack of news, and knowing the game may have been fully completed back then... Imagining that there might even be a fully complete unannounced game NOW??? I don't know whether that prospect is exciting or tragic- a little bit of both, I think.
@char1194
@char1194 6 сағат бұрын
To be clear I think this is a good practice to ensure a consistent flow of games. It's just that as a fan I'm greedy and want more NOW lol
@zeroshadow-warrior2304
@zeroshadow-warrior2304 6 сағат бұрын
As a fellow Fire Emblem fan. It could be that they are sitting on a completed game. Especially since Codename Iron18 is missing. Three Houses is Iron17 and Engage is Iron19. (Note that only mainline games use Iron codenames and the missing Iron13 codename was likely used for the scrapped second Wii game).
@cyndit9054
@cyndit9054 5 сағат бұрын
I love Fire Emblem and will be so excited whenever the next game does get announced. But, at this point, I'm kind of hoping that the next game will be on the next console, so I'm good with continuing to wait
@athorem
@athorem 4 сағат бұрын
Hoping that FE4 remake is real and they're just waiting until we're far enough away from Engage to announce it
@lol-ih1tl
@lol-ih1tl 3 сағат бұрын
​@@athorem we're more likely to get a remaster of Awakening or Fates than an FE4 remake.
@icedcapplord710
@icedcapplord710 7 сағат бұрын
So you're saying there's a chance that a new Eternal Darkness with HD Rumble support has been lying in the vault for five years. Got it
@FalcoLombardi-zt8ov
@FalcoLombardi-zt8ov 5 сағат бұрын
Eternal Darkness was crazy good. Very unique, and has decent replayability. It's one of these experiences I will never forget. Like, for instance, I could have enjoyed RE4 more at the time, but when I think back, ED was so much more unique. No other game offered this kind of experience, not even close.
@theLikou1
@theLikou1 4 сағат бұрын
Nintendo is looking for partners to release HD remasters of a bunch of games for the Switch in 2025, since a lot of people will not make the jump to the next gen right away. So yeah, you can dream about it being part of the list.
@arkthur0959
@arkthur0959 2 сағат бұрын
Well they finished starfox 2 and never released until the snes mini because the N64 was already a thing so maybe
@thecunninlynguist
@thecunninlynguist 7 сағат бұрын
Plot twist MP4 has been finished for years
@obba40
@obba40 7 сағат бұрын
Probably
@Quinn-kr2cp
@Quinn-kr2cp 6 сағат бұрын
There were people talking about how it's basically done like a year ago
@adam145
@adam145 4 сағат бұрын
Imagine seeing a random tweet in the middle of the night: Nintendo of America: "Hello, Furukawa here. We finished development on Metroid Prime 4: Beyond ... three years ago! I've been playing it over and over unlike you, losers. Unfortunately currently we have no release date because I don't give a damn. However, please stay tuned for new announcements and go cry into your anime waifu pillows while you eat chips in bed. Goodbye!"
@jullicent
@jullicent 4 сағат бұрын
One time Nintendo did announce that their game went Gold was with TotK. Aonuma mentioned it at the start of his gameplay demo in late March 2023. The long gap for FE Engage specifically kinda makes sense when you think about Three Hopes' release. Since Three Hopes ties in with Three Houses, they didn't want to disrupt that synergy by announcing a shiny new FE game between them. Three Hopes released in June 2022, and Engage was announced at the very next Direct (Sept 2022).
@theLikou1
@theLikou1 Сағат бұрын
ToTK was done before that.
@jullicent
@jullicent Сағат бұрын
Aonuma said that the game was nearly finished when they delayed it in March 2022, but they decided to give it more time to polish. That's different than "going gold," which means that it's ready for release.
@theLikou1
@theLikou1 50 минут бұрын
@@jullicent So it was ready to release but they decided to give it extra time for polish? That's what Nintendo always do, bud. Mario Odyssey was done an year before the release date and they took that time to polish it till the release of the Switch. You think of going gold as an universal "it is done" state. It is not, it is just the version that is going to be printed on discs.
@joshuajames5707
@joshuajames5707 6 сағат бұрын
Other teams releasing unfinished games while Nintendo got it licked well enough to have them done for years ahead of time? That actually explains a lot
@pinto5012
@pinto5012 6 сағат бұрын
This video in a way ties into another video Jon made about most Nintendo games not needing an update/patch past its 1.0 release
@CasualChris247
@CasualChris247 6 сағат бұрын
engage was done years before release. they love saving games for the right moment. This is probably a reason why leaks happen often
@Cloud-dt6xb
@Cloud-dt6xb 2 сағат бұрын
If you look back at their history Nintendo pretty much had the same problem Sony and Microsoft are having now, they'd go for very long stretches without games releasing and clearly someone at the company took notice and are doing their hardest to fix it.
@Nekomania
@Nekomania 2 сағат бұрын
@@Cloud-dt6xb It really helps nintendo for the longest time had seperate divisions for console and handheld games but with the switch and the end of the 3ds they were basically able to combine those teams and now they have a ton more to work with.
@gobbagoo
@gobbagoo Сағат бұрын
@@Cloud-dt6xbthis was a problem for the wii u because they had a lot of trouble with developing hd games for the first time
@Cloud-dt6xb
@Cloud-dt6xb Сағат бұрын
@@gobbagoo Exactly so it makes sense that they'd want to avoid that.
@aidenquinn19975
@aidenquinn19975 6 сағат бұрын
I think the weirdest choice was them swapping release dates for Splatoon 3 and Xenoblade Chronicles 3 so Xenoblade would come out earlier instead.
@ethanhaynes7406
@ethanhaynes7406 5 сағат бұрын
My guess is that it was because they thought splatoon could be advertised as a "holiday game", which Xenoblade unfortunately is not
@DorienTheHeroOfTheArts
@DorienTheHeroOfTheArts 3 сағат бұрын
@@aidenquinn19975 What I think happened is they had planned Xenoblade to come out at it's original date, but they realized that they probably needed a bit more time to polish up Splatoon 3. So they figured "well Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is already done, so why not?" And that's how we got the result
@JohnboyTheGamer
@JohnboyTheGamer 5 сағат бұрын
I remember talks about how Wind Waker and Twlight Princess has been sat on for quite a while. With Switch 2 imminent release, maybe theu decided to launch those games on Switch and of course playable on Switch 2. No way Nintendo abandons that high console ownership until at least 2027. That is if WW and TP is ready
@GmasterB89
@GmasterB89 6 сағат бұрын
Jon's video ideas are always great! Really informative
@Ozzy_08x
@Ozzy_08x 2 сағат бұрын
Hell, there’s a good chance that Xenoblade 3 went gold before 2023 and were sitting on it until Nintendo decided to push it out earlier bc Splatoon 3 got delayed
@seanyboy212
@seanyboy212 3 сағат бұрын
All these companies are scrambling to chase whatever big industry trends there are, when Nintendo figured it out loooong ago: make good games that people want to play! It’s genuinely that simple.
@Hundo_Mo
@Hundo_Mo 5 сағат бұрын
“Concord (nothing?)” Jon, you sassy minx
@KoOk-h1d
@KoOk-h1d 3 минут бұрын
Concord had unlucky timing, and then Concordia hit. I feel bad for the devs though hopefully they'll get new jobs.
@youtuber6193
@youtuber6193 3 сағат бұрын
I think this is also why Nintendo games do not need large day 1 patches. Other developers rush games out of the door, whereas Nintendo make sure the game is polished and playable on the day of release.
@andrewoliver1330
@andrewoliver1330 6 сағат бұрын
Nintendo Music App also reminded me how good Wii Sports Bowling is
@pruett89
@pruett89 6 сағат бұрын
I’m gonna call this now. It’s only a matter of time before John goes to work at Nintendo.
@SUPERVEGETTO92
@SUPERVEGETTO92 6 сағат бұрын
Nintendo is like a Mastered Super Saiyan Goku, they trade raw graphical power for efficient development. Playstation is like Ultra Super Saiyan Trunks, they focus too much on raw power at the cost of having too few games. And I guess Microsoft is like Cell who basically justs absorb other people to themselves.
@lol-ih1tl
@lol-ih1tl 3 сағат бұрын
This might not be the case with Switch 2 due to increased development costs. However there will be Switch 1 games released between Switch 2 games.
@antoniotorres1674
@antoniotorres1674 2 сағат бұрын
There are 2 completed metroid remasters, 1 fire emblem game and a kirby game waiting for the optimal release, I have 0 doubts about it. That's why they always release less than 6 months from when they are announced.
@10k-Noodles
@10k-Noodles 52 минут бұрын
Nintendo’s such a weird/unique company. They don’t operate on debt like everyone else. They hold on to products for months/years. They don’t seem to have layoffs even when an entire platform bombs. They put out stuff nobody asked for or needed, like Alarmo. They appear super conservative on the surface, but take more risks than anyone else. They spend more on legal fees fighting emulation and piracy than they lose to it. 🤷‍♂️
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 6 сағат бұрын
You should probably update the outro to include Bluesky. But yeah, I feel like the Switch 2 is being positioned for 2025 so Nintendo can have a bunch of finished games in the chamber to release at a steady clip.
@mrafflin
@mrafflin 5 сағат бұрын
Even though it got delayed, TOTK was basically done by March 2022
@andreysegura2510
@andreysegura2510 5 сағат бұрын
I wondered what it looks like comparing before and after animal crossing new horizons. I have the theory that after the success of AC Nintendo decided to sit on finished games for a while, considering the amount of rumored games that ended up being released. Having sold in weeks what Nintendo expected it to sell in years, I'm sure Nintendo had no reason to release some games until later
@SuperFirstSecond
@SuperFirstSecond Сағат бұрын
It likely has to do with the extreme software droughts on the Wii U. They lost a lot of 3rd party support and had split resources between Wii U and 3DS, which meant both audiences were getting under-served. You can see the Switch's monthly strategy before AC as well, as 2017, 2018, and 2019 are all very similarly scheduled. Now, I do think Nintendo benefits more than Sony and Microsoft due to the long sales tail on their biggest games. It doesn't really matter if one of their monthly games doesn't sell 1m copies, because Mario Kart, Zelda, Smash, etc will sell more than enough to make up for it.
@mystic5185
@mystic5185 4 сағат бұрын
God I love engage, it really did feel like the most polished game ever. I expect the genealogy remake or 3H style sequel next but I would kill for another Fates-Engage style game.
@GalaxiaSword
@GalaxiaSword 7 сағат бұрын
I prefer held back finished games that are kept a secret and ready for release, over waiting 5-6 years for industry plant standard stuff by Sony. Engage being my favorite Fire Emblem game, I'm glad it was polished upon release.
@wellplayedkeiji
@wellplayedkeiji 4 сағат бұрын
I love the topics and videos from this channel! Thank you Jon and team!
@Cloud-dt6xb
@Cloud-dt6xb 2 сағат бұрын
This new habit they have is why I'm not worried about the launch of Switch 2, clearly they have things in the pipeline that we just don't know about yet and just want to wait for the right time to drop it. And what better time for that then for the launch of a new console, Nintendo's clearly learned from their history here and are trying really hard not to repeat it.
@HunnterM
@HunnterM 6 сағат бұрын
I think it is smart to sit on their games like that.i don't think this will change much after the switch 2 releases since it will be backwards compatible.I think a lot of the games will still just be switch games at that point so the amount of development won't change drastically.
@Persona-Joop-157
@Persona-Joop-157 21 минут бұрын
One of the reasons that most AAA games nowadays take so much time and money to make is because most AAA franchises have a realistic art style, the franchises are designed to be harder to make. Nintendo's franchises on the other hand almost all have either a cartoony art style or an anime which is much easier to make, that allows nintendo to make a lot more games in a lot less time, and the budgets are also much smaller, so spin-offs and smaller games are much less risky
@By-the_Way
@By-the_Way 7 сағат бұрын
Advanced Wars 1+2 still hasn't come out in Japan... (I have a feeling it'll never get released over here.)
@undercoverduck
@undercoverduck 6 сағат бұрын
Someone could find out they're pregnant at the time some Nintendo games are rated and have the baby pop out before that same game is released
@patricialos7478
@patricialos7478 3 сағат бұрын
00:12 in December of 2024 is fitness boxing 3: your personal trainer, also you forgot super hero girls: teen power in 2021 june 4th. and you also forgot F-zero in 2023 september.
@sollato0293
@sollato0293 6 сағат бұрын
I’m still waiting on Fire Emblem 4 remake after being told a year ago it was finished.
@athorem
@athorem 4 сағат бұрын
To think that game exists and is technically possible to play *now*...
@amadeus.7436
@amadeus.7436 Сағат бұрын
God I just remembered how far in advance Mario vs. Donkey Kong was rumored to be finished
@cullbear55
@cullbear55 2 сағат бұрын
EarthBound Beginnings took about 25 years to finally come out despite being completed.
@FleischmannMVD
@FleischmannMVD Сағат бұрын
I'm convinced Nintendo has an emergency warehouse of Wind Waker HD for switch in case they badly need money
@Caolan114
@Caolan114 11 минут бұрын
It's all marketing you want to give developers time to make the game, polish It and then you have a meeting when would be best to release It -holidays -anniversaries -other game releases If they wanted to they could release 20 games tomorrow but that would be too many, they want to give us echoes of wisdom, mario party and then wait for people to enjoy those before releasing another small batch of games
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 7 сағат бұрын
mother 3, been sitting on it for 20 years
@sonicsean34
@sonicsean34 49 минут бұрын
I wish the industry did this more as standard instead of working on games down to the wire (or having to desperately fix things post-launch) Maybe wait till a game is content complete before announcing dates and just focus on bug hunting until release (Obviously not feasible for every company but prob for many)
@GamerFunOriginallyAarush
@GamerFunOriginallyAarush 6 сағат бұрын
That’s impressive for Nintendo!
@iantaylor8148
@iantaylor8148 2 сағат бұрын
Interesting. Well, there's Zelda Breath and Tears. Apparently, there's Zelda Ganons Farts which has been ready to go for eighteen months.
@cjt217
@cjt217 5 сағат бұрын
Look at this timing. I just finished last week's gvg cast and there's more QUALITY content for me
@KanameYuuki
@KanameYuuki 6 сағат бұрын
It is pretty funny how ms and sony struggle to release games for this gen, meanwhile Nintendo sometimes doesn't feel like releasing some already made for quite a wihle.
@kirkvandewalker3574
@kirkvandewalker3574 3 сағат бұрын
Let's not forget Detective Pikachu Returns, which was announced in 2019 and then released in 2023 for the Switch
@azekeprofit
@azekeprofit 4 сағат бұрын
It used to be a normal practice for big publishers who had a lots of releases and wanted to stagger them. Now that so called AAA can barely push out 3-4 releases a year they can't afford to delay already thin output. I know for a fact SEGA sat on Bayonetta 1 for entire year -- game was fully completed in 2008 -- because game guide writer had the full game a year before japanese release.
@SuperFirstSecond
@SuperFirstSecond Сағат бұрын
Eh, not really. If that were true we wouldn't have crunch culture as we know it. Many games needed to be released as fast as possible to recoup money and especially to hit the coveted holiday and last minute March Q4 slots. You'd also see companies like Sega and Capcom dropping multiple games the same month just because they were done. Now, in the 90s, it was very common for completed games to not be released because the price to make the cartridge outweighed the potential sales (Earthbound 0, Star Fox 2, 40 Winks 64, etc)
@LuigiBlood
@LuigiBlood 3 сағат бұрын
And then there's Star Fox 2, the alpha
@swordmasterarie7752
@swordmasterarie7752 3 сағат бұрын
"Concord (nothing?)" LMAOOO
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 49 минут бұрын
People theorized that FE1 was translated because FE Engage wasn’t done in time for the anniversary, so I guess that isn’t true
@JeannieLove
@JeannieLove 6 сағат бұрын
Nintendo operates like Hollywood which is interesting
@Fuzunga
@Fuzunga 21 минут бұрын
While Nintendo does obviously sit on games for a while, thus why they can announce a game and release it in four months, Fire Emblem Engage is definitely a weird case because of the pandemic. The game was developed alongside Three Houses, and was intended to be released for the series' anniversary. I think when the pandemic ended up causing chaos to the release schedule, they held onto Engage for an extra long time so they could release it in a period where they anticipated there would be a lul due to delayed development of other games. I'm also convinced they did a lot of extra polishing just because they could, because Engage looks insanely sharp.
@ACameronUK
@ACameronUK 7 сағат бұрын
That’s probably why many of their 1st party games release bug free practically speaking 🙃 I think that would be impossible for a company like Sony
@Octav2000
@Octav2000 6 сағат бұрын
We are still waiting on another fe game that got leaked with engage
@jackayers4955
@jackayers4955 7 сағат бұрын
Hopefully their shareholders don't find out...
@PilaCiu
@PilaCiu 5 сағат бұрын
Tears of the Kingdom was said to be content complete in late 2021
@bkillinm
@bkillinm 4 сағат бұрын
Hopefuly they have been finished with the next fire emblem and FZero games cause I want those two badly
@trill1513
@trill1513 4 сағат бұрын
Imagine how many Switch 2 games they’re sitting on
@lol-ih1tl
@lol-ih1tl 3 сағат бұрын
Not that many. Switch 2 games are way more expensive and more demanding to produce. Which means that right now not even the launch titles are complete.
@Cloud-dt6xb
@Cloud-dt6xb 2 сағат бұрын
Imagine how many switch 1 games they've sat on that they decided to turn into switch 2 games. That launch is going to be insane I guarantee it.
@trill1513
@trill1513 2 сағат бұрын
@@Cloud-dt6xb that’s a good point!
@lol-ih1tl
@lol-ih1tl 2 сағат бұрын
@Cloud-dt6xb unfortunately that's not going to happen. These games will release as Switch 1 exclusive games the same way the 3DS was still getting new games in 2017-2019. Nintendo won't abandon Switch 1 the moment Switch 2 is out. Switch 2's first two years will be dry due to higher development costs and Switch 2 games being more demanding.
@Cloud-dt6xb
@Cloud-dt6xb Сағат бұрын
@@lol-ih1tl Says random youtuber who does'nt actually work at Nintendo. Even though they do plan to release Switch exclusive games do you seriously think they won't save say a new Star Fox Game just as an example for the Switch 2. They know how much people are wanting that so why not use that to help build excitement for the next system. My point is that with it so close it is not unreasonable to think that any Switch games that maybe close to completion or their waiting for the right time to drop won't be turned into Switch 2 ones. Especially if it helps keep their momentum going with the next system which would absolutely be a big priority for them.
@MichaelHeide
@MichaelHeide 5 сағат бұрын
USK has probably played a bunch of Switch 3 games by now.
@JGDazza
@JGDazza Сағат бұрын
Difference is the polishing time. Nintendo take more time to polish. Sony releases once feature complete with a small amount of polish by comparison.
@Dairunt1
@Dairunt1 Сағат бұрын
This is very interesting. If the development cycle of a regular Zelda game takes around 5 years, and Tears of the Kingdom was nearly finished in late 2022, there's a chance we may get a new mainline Zelda as early as 2026, specially if they scale the game down so QA takes less. Considering the amount of recycled assets, the art and graphics department could have started development WAAAY before QA.
@amadeus.7436
@amadeus.7436 Сағат бұрын
Well they also developed Echoes of Wisdom, so I'd say it'll probably take longer. Holiday 2027 maybe?
@Dairunt1
@Dairunt1 54 минут бұрын
@amadeus.7436 Echoes of Wisdom was made by the team that made Link's Awakening.
@ElDodrigo
@ElDodrigo 56 минут бұрын
Jon, can you say PEGI 12? When you said PEGI in the video, I thought it was the same voice :)
@blaziken1234
@blaziken1234 7 сағат бұрын
Low-industry game dev perspective here, but hearing their criteria for how early a game can be submitted, generally being "content complete" usually isn't a game as "Golden" given the amount of time at the back-end of development devoted to bug-fixing and polish. The story beats may have had a script and animations, but may have lacked voice acting or the final versions of said animations. Menus could still be placeholder, game balance may need adjustments, so on so forth. Lyrical music is probably done and a part of that build, and of course the printed materials must be present, but overall "Content complete" and "Golden" are very much separate things in game development. I don't think the video is *technically* correct to say these are Finished Games, but it's still a very great chronology of knowing when these games have hit that milestone and up to how much time these games spent just getting polished. Would love to see a double-dip on the subject sometime just to get more game-build-milestone sleuthing from Jon. Edit: Jon addresses this towards the end of the video and I should have watched all the way through first. That said, I'm positive they hadn't moved onto other projects at those points given the shocking amount of time in game-dev spent in the polish-builds relative to how much time is spent in content-creation-builds. They may have still been on these projects until as early as 2 months before their official release, Golden builds usually being finished 6 weeks up to 3 months before the full release date.
@athorem
@athorem 4 сағат бұрын
I just want to play their unreleased games that they've already finished now, man. I mean it's technically possible...
@stripedrajang3571
@stripedrajang3571 4 сағат бұрын
Why?
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 40 минут бұрын
I’m guessing Pokémon games don’t get the same luxury
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 42 минут бұрын
The USK are lucky bastards, and a consistently sealed lip bunch too.
@skyhighlander6447
@skyhighlander6447 5 сағат бұрын
Glad to see the shared horror for USK
@kelico8407
@kelico8407 3 сағат бұрын
I’m so fine with this. As long as I don’t know about it
@SobmicSSBB
@SobmicSSBB 5 сағат бұрын
"Nintendo sit on games" gosh what a kink
@brianvaira486
@brianvaira486 4 сағат бұрын
I’m curious about how long the Pokémon games were rated prior to release
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 40 минут бұрын
I bet Mario Kart 9 has been finished forever
@repoversemedium
@repoversemedium 7 сағат бұрын
imagine they lied about the Kirby and the Rainbow Curse remaster
@Sightnado
@Sightnado 6 сағат бұрын
At least they finish their games...
@stripedrajang3571
@stripedrajang3571 4 сағат бұрын
Ouch. You're hitting below the belt. 😂
@jeveritt8398
@jeveritt8398 7 сағат бұрын
And most other publishers do the opposite by releasing games way too early
@dfilm
@dfilm 52 минут бұрын
I disagree with the theory that a rated game means it's "done" and that the raters have played it. How do we know their process? I've read the publisher must submit the most objectionable parts of the game, it's not like the rating system companies have to dig up every line of existing content in a game right?
@Retro_Game_Plays
@Retro_Game_Plays 55 минут бұрын
What about wind waker hd and Twilight Princess hd games for the switch. It was rumoured that they were complete and ready for release a few years ago.
@theLikou1
@theLikou1 4 сағат бұрын
Let's all remember that Nintendo have an remake of Fire Emblem 4 ready for quite some time now, about an year.
@sscu26
@sscu26 5 сағат бұрын
Minor spelling mistake. I saw the previous title lol
@_Silly
@_Silly 6 сағат бұрын
Nintendo has totally had a new F-Zero game finished for years and they will release it any day now. Huh? I'm not coping.
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 51 минут бұрын
0:15 what is Buddy Mission Bind?
@capnjohn7455
@capnjohn7455 4 сағат бұрын
What about third party games for the Switch and third party games for the PS5? Do they match Nintendo’s timeline or Sony’s?
@joshcarriker6958
@joshcarriker6958 3 сағат бұрын
So how do we get games like Nintendo Switch sports if they have to wait until a game is finished before it's rated?
@thebestworst8002
@thebestworst8002 4 сағат бұрын
Really curious when was Pokémon scarlet/violet added?
@themothreborn
@themothreborn 4 сағат бұрын
So jealous of these ratings board people who have already seen the future of animal crossing on switch 2
@Jamsch101
@Jamsch101 3 сағат бұрын
Hey Jon, I'm here
@BobRod-mi8rq
@BobRod-mi8rq 2 сағат бұрын
Men and I still have to finish my stuff 🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️
@JR-rm4nw
@JR-rm4nw 2 сағат бұрын
Huh. If Advance Wars and Engage were finished around the same time it's possible that Engage was also internally delayed becuase of Ukraine. They're both about war even though Engage is obviously more high fantasy than Advance War's modern warfare style.
@TheOriginalKnottian
@TheOriginalKnottian 4 сағат бұрын
Wish you guys would cover/treat Xbox a bit better; they’ve been on a much better release schedule the last couple years compared to Sony, so would have made a good comparison point for Nintendo (though Nintendo still has the win obviously here). Would just prefer a bit more objectivity, but that’s my two cents.
@TevorTheThird
@TevorTheThird 37 минут бұрын
Yeah, I'm happy to critique Nintendo on a lot of stuff but this ain't one of them. I have no idea why any big publisher with a literal slate of games at all times doesn't just sit on stuff and release it when appropriate. There's this absurd idea of having to rush through development, get it out the door and move on to the next thing, be that more content for that game or a new project. I know it's because of greed, you need to ship product to sell product, but I don't think they're actually maximizing profits by behaving this way. It serves their own goals poorly. Nintendo almost uniquely among big publishers doesn't treat their games, their product, as disposable. And it works very very well. People should be looking at that more 😅
@alexabreuor
@alexabreuor 4 сағат бұрын
Is there any rating on a new animal crossing?
@TainoMoya
@TainoMoya 7 сағат бұрын
fe engage is such a great game too fe 3 houses, then hopes then engage were what got me into FE nintendo built different amd since sony copies everything nintendo does they should copy their release schedule too
@GalaxiaSword
@GalaxiaSword 7 сағат бұрын
Engage is my favorite recent FE game, but I respect 3H too. And that requires Sony to have multiple Team Asobi's around, but Sony only cares about pushing big numbers because everything they do nowadays is just industry plant standards. PS1/PS2 era Sony took more risks.
@zacharylandrum4789
@zacharylandrum4789 6 сағат бұрын
"FE Engage is such a great game." Don't make me laugh, please. I played it all the way through and I hated it. It was so bad that it made me not want to look at the FE series for a really long time.
@TainoMoya
@TainoMoya 6 сағат бұрын
@zacharylandrum4789 thats fine mate, no game is for everyone. for me i like character interactions and character focused media. thats why i enjoyed that aspect of the game a lot
@GalaxiaSword
@GalaxiaSword 6 сағат бұрын
@@zacharylandrum4789 Cool story. Engage wasn't for you then, but that doesn't change the fact that folks can enjoy a game you don't like.
@CombatWombat19
@CombatWombat19 6 сағат бұрын
Holds*
@ShenaniganSync
@ShenaniganSync 5 сағат бұрын
Sit on?
@Mark-Troyer
@Mark-Troyer 7 сағат бұрын
👋🏼
@Axecon1
@Axecon1 5 сағат бұрын
Except Pokemon
@DorienTheHeroOfTheArts
@DorienTheHeroOfTheArts 5 сағат бұрын
The games are not developed by Nintendo
@IsraelLlerena
@IsraelLlerena 6 сағат бұрын
Twilight princess switch port I swear been done for years 💀
Considering this from first principles.
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