How Many BALLOONS Do I Need To Break The Sound Barrier? [Trailmakers]

Welcome to another episode of Trailmakers! Today I am trying to break the sound barrier using only inflatable balloons from the new Airborne update! What is the smallest number needed to break the sound barrier? The results weren't what I expected
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About Trailmakers:
In the toughest motoring expedition in the universe, you and your friends will build your own vehicles to cross a dangerous wasteland. Explore, crash horribly, use your wits to build a better rig, and get as far as you can with whatever spare parts you find on your way.
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Journey over grueling mountains, hazardous swamps, and bone-dry deserts on a distant world far from civilization - it is just you, your fellow adventurers and the amazing, jet-powered hover-buggy you built yourself. Explore, crash your vehicle, build a better one, and get as far as you can with whatever spare parts you find along your way.
Trailmakers is about building very awesome vehicles and machines, but you don’t need an engineering degree to get started. The intuitive builder will get you going in no time. Everything you build is made from physical building blocks. Each block has unique features like shape, weight and functionality. They can be broken off, refitted and used to build something new. Individually the blocks are fairly simple, but combined the possibilities are endless.
Expedition Mode is the challenging campaign mode of Trailmakers. You are competing in an off-world rally expedition with only a few building blocks to get you started. You must build, tinker with and rebuild your machine to progress. Journey through a big world, overcome deep gorges, angry wildlife and dangerous weather to progress and find new parts that will juice up your machine. The world in Expedition Mode will test your survival skills and ingenuity.
Sandbox Mode is where you want to head for an unrestricted, sandbox, vehicle-building experience. Here you can build anything you can dream of, and play around with it in the world of Trailmakers. It is a great place to test out crazy machines, and experiment with the physics engine. With tons of different blocks, hinges, thrusters and interactive vehicle parts - the skybox is the limit.
Trailmakers is even more fun if you play it with other people. Build cool vehicles and compete in mini-game modes with your friends or other Trailmakers online. Build a helicopter, send it to your friend, and shoot them out of the sky. Put two seats on a tank, and let your friend control the turret. As we get further in Early Access development Expedition Mode will also be adapted to multiplayer.
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[@mohammadnazriabdsamad8286]

Kosmo: Let's break the sound barrier with these new large turbojets! 40 minutes later... ScrapMan: Let's break the sound barrier with these new inflatable balloons!

[@artiarora2883]

If you are serious, keep in mind that Scrap Man got his idea much more time before kosmos video and he originally had the idea to do a successful "sonic boom" series in trailmakers.

[@lonelee5353]

​@@artiarora2883 no, it's a joke about how kosmo tries to break the sound barrier with a reasonable source of propulsion, while scrapman does it with litteral balloons

[@G3N3515DM]

@@artiarora2883 dude they are friends relax lol

[@slykidman]

He didn't say either of them stole the idea... he simply made a comparison based on the absurdity of USING BALLOONS.... It appears as though scrapman has definately "one-upped" kosmo. Whether intentionally or not. 😂

[@waylonmorristexas4851]

@@artiarora2883I don’t think he was accusing him of copying

[@Yeet-xh4dl]

Scrapman knew immediately what everyone wanted to see since the new update

[@cybermystery1353]

totally

[@oversecus833]

No we wanted to see more episodes of the campaign

[@Yeet-xh4dl]

@@oversecus833 that’s fair

[@Fateh_the_genius]

@@oversecus833 yes that’s what i want to see!

[@BraydenWolframe]

Not this...

[@icetide9411]

Scrapman: Sees any possible form of movement Scrapman five minutes later: *So I've managed to break the sound barrier agai-*

[@theoofer478]

of mechanical force*

[@Kevin-uo4uj]

for the 11 balloons you could try with those triangular wedge blocks you said wouldnt work. in reality you could make the edges of the shape stick out from the side still reducing weight and with the same aerodynamics without the spin

[@edisonbui9162]

Or use 3x3 triangular wedges

[@conorstewart2214]

Even though it is lighter if it has a larger surface area then it would have more drag. Drag is independent of the weight of the block.

[@kruth6663]

I was wondering that too. Maybe by the game's mechanic increasing 1 more block of sectional area will harm more than it helps with the weight reduction, no matter how good that 1 block's aerodynamic is, but it's worth a try.

[@rcdsop]

But it wont attach

[@theodoric4270]

What Conor and kruth said. Extremely good aerodynamics are still worse than no drag at all. Increasing the profile--even with extremely aerodynamic pieces--will slow it down more than the lighter weight will speed it up. Of course, in this setting, this is only a well-informed hypothesis. A good scientist would try it anyway.

[@thechh8297]

Use those odd shaped aerodynamic blocks, just don't make a corkscrew effect by creating rotational symmetry. You need to make it asymmetrical to reduce any rotational effect.

[@darkfury3914]

i had same thought if i had early access....

[@magica3526]

that would make it flip sideways, you can try the same thing now just without balloons

[@mattzuma77]

@@magica3526 nah make the middle 2 angle to the left and the outer 2 angle to the right

[@beaconblaster33]

make it symmetrical, mirror symmetry that is.

[@magica3526]

@@mattzuma77 that would work, but that's not asymetrical

[@gengarisnotinsmash...]

I think you would need to fix the center of gravity so it is below the center of lift if you want to get down to 11 balloons. Yes, that does add more weight and yes, the tailfin helped with stability, but there was still a little bit of a tilt as you went up. You were so long that the tilt had a larger effect on your aerodynamics than normal. The better aerodynamics should outweigh the extra weight you had to add.

[@RealPanzer999]

I was a bit tired when I wrote this & the statement is false... Shouldn't moving the seat into the middle of the balloons do the trick? That way there would be minimal weight-gain for the creation.

[@wolffang-vz2ty]

@@RealPanzer999 this would make it worse as then even more of the mass of the creation is at or above the center thus making it more prone to tilt

[@RealPanzer999]

@@wolffang-vz2ty I'm an idiot... XD was too tired when I wrote that.

[@garretbernard8174]

The tilt was because he had air control enabled. He removed the tailfin, and then disabled air control to get rid of the tilt

[@RealPanzer999]

@@garretbernard8174 it still tilted until the very end, so yes it helped but no it was not gone.

[@schniz446]

If we make the assumption that there is water deep enough in trailmakers and that these balloons actually give more lift force underwater like a real balloon would, there is a non-zero chance that the additional lift force will overcome the additional drag caused by being in a fender fluid, meaning there’s a chance for 11 or less balloons. Can’t find out until tmr tho

[@HolyProfeta]

Hi there. You were able to use the flat lights at 90 deg as substitute for a 4x1 wedge. And yeah: lights have better aero at 90 deg than square.

[@RadiantCataclysm]

this was great. You're doing a great job Scrapman, we love your videos.

[@jakenewby4314]

Just like aircraft wings, having aerodynamic shapes facing opposite the direction of travel also reduces drag (diffusion), love your vids.

[@theodoric4270]

This does not usually make a big difference, but it does make a difference, and he only needs to go a little faster. It would also lower the center of gravity and decrease the tilt, which I think is his biggest problem. I am 100% behind this idea.

[@MergeMechanic7395]

The balloons are in the balance section because the description for it says that it also includes bouyant things/bouancy controllers. And balloons, as you may (now) guess, are (positively) bouyant in air, and even more so in denser mediums like water. Too little(or too much) density in a medium and it will go _POP_ because the pressure differences are too great.

[@riccardopetrina4212]

I thought it would take 8 balloons...turns out I was quite wrong. Always surprised at how much of a difference aerodynamics do, especially wedges #wedgegang

[@kasamkhalid1779]

Me who guessed 18

[@pratibhasrivastav2698]

Lol I actually guessed 12

[@avletheprotogen]

You’ve broken the sound barrier with the inflatable balloons, now if it’s possible, try breaking the sound barrier with the party balloons

[@firepaca2626]

Trailmakers: .*makes new movement item* Scrapman: "guess the sound barrier's gone"

[@JediDrewsterT]

Id guess about 12, the 105 would be multiplied by 12 or more with the proper aerodynamics

[@Joyce_Aneila]

i actually just got trailmakers yesterday, your the one that inspired me to get it ^^

[@MrScotttraynor]

was enjoying the solo thing from yesterday, hope you continue

[@jasperrighart8847]

Already soo good

[@benlabuda3640]

I’m pretty sure that adding aerodynamics to the bottom of the craft would make it faster. I’ve tested this before and it seems to work. This is how it works in real life too because the bottom would create a vacuum that sucks you backwards.

[@Xmar4]

I want to watch Scrpman's other videos on the Trailmakers expansion but I also don't want to see the new campaign cause I'm really excited for it. lol Thanks for this video Scrapman!!!

[@PyroRaptor1]

immediately another good video from you,Scrapman!

[@gamerxdpro9112]

When scrapman see a new way to fly he will use it as a sonic boom test

[@RPM5_]

Someone should tell Scrapman that we love him

[@outer_spacedgames5048]

true

[@GummieI]

Well you just did ;)

[@RPM5_]

@@GummieI hope he sees it

[@LarryPrime]

Some could call it a sonic BALLOON! Get it? Sonic boom, sonic balloon… I’ll show myself out now.

[@schniz446]

So we’ve basically done every type of thrust to create a sonic boom (excluding the newest ones), but when are we going to find the most efficient way to break a sonic boom? Sonic boomolympics? I suppose you can have different efficiency categories like most weight efficient, power core efficient, size efficient etc.

[@noahg5283]

I love waking up for school every morning and watching these videos you post as I wake up

[@KurtVFX]

You forgot about the aerodynamics on the trailing edges!

[@Loop_Kat]

Try playing around with the small armor plate blocks. When placed on their side, they provide green aerodynamics _almost_ identical to the 4x1 wedge blocks (I think they're very slightly less efficient) and can sometimes fit into weird configurations where you only need to cover a very small area (or fill in hollow areas without adding a bunch of weight) Example (block, plate, aerodynamics): [ ] _

[@Clover-re4ud]

I was hoping he realizes that the 4 by 4 wedges have attachment points on the side and so he could get rid of the small connectors by rotating the 4 by ones to attach to each other on the outside but keep the 4 by 4s the same hope that made sense

[@MixBalo]

I got my prediction RIGHT no joke and can you try to break the sound barrier with the party balloons? Love your content.😊

[@bernardodiehl8699]

?

[@omgtntlol]

Now that you've found how many balloons it takes to break the sound barrier, maybe you can find out who is the best at survival mode? Day 137 of asking for a Multiplayer Monday in survival mode where everyone starts at the crashed ship with a craftbot in the mechanic station. Everyone has 30 minutes to build a vehicle from scratch, gathering their own materials. No glitches, thrusters allowed, after which everyone meets up and races their builds

[@theodoric4270]

So from the spinning we see that, although the aerodynamic profile of a single block is independent of blocks around it, the direction of the drag force on each block is affected by the slope of the block. Maybe you could rotate some of the other nose wedges to counter the spin, or even the tilt.

[@TimeKitt]

Remember your trailing edge aerodynamics Scrapman! Just because the display only shows leading edge doesn't mean it doesn't count. I gotta wait til tomarrow to check it out myself don't I?

[@petryksachko4102]

Here's a challenge: Break the sound barrier with party balloons

[@lucidocelot]

The arc of those balloons with the heavy tip was crazy. I’d love to see if you could make a large missile design based on that.

[@ewancoppens3193]

Love the update, plz do more Trailmakers Multiplayer Mondays 😉

[@artiarora2883]

Yessireee!!!

[@tinyryan2626]

Mondays are for Scrap Mechanic: Scrap Mechanic Monday Trailmakers Tuesday?

[@axlegend30]

Scrapman always asking the hard hitting questions Also congrats on 800k!!!

[@benfletcher8100]

Scrapman puts more thought and planning into a supersonic balloon than I put into my own life

[@shopko_y1277]

Scrapman, your idea of using balloons to break the sound barrier going up is a good idea and a good test to make. But instead of breaking the sound barrier up, couldn't you have the balloon carry you upward and then use gravity to break the sound barrier downward?

[@ultimatetybreaker3467]

Even though the larger angled wedge pieces covered more than they needed to, they were still much lighter than the regular wedge pieces. I think the weight difference would've made up for the extra surface area if you had replaced all the straight wedges with angled wedges.

[@N.word-man124]

Great job scrapman keep the energy

[@Ninehoi]

you could use the diving ball to counter teh center of mass issue you had with the jet seat but at the cost of more weight

[@aritgirlfoamflinging4816]

The 11 balloon configuration with spoilers for alignment at the bottom, the one under the seat offset so that it's on the seat and the top spoiler. Or they could go on the first balloon

[@Altimoo]

In your previous video, there was a "gas mixture" setting on the balloon. Could that have an effect? Also my guess was 25 (or not possible). I think I was a little bit off.

[@irrelevantsafety]

I was guessing around there as well lol

[@Pystro]

Gas mixture was at 1.00 (see 14:33). But maybe you could lower the gas mixture of the bottom most balloon to lift your center of lift.

[@estebanbourdier4409]

The propulsion yab is for pieces that pushes blocks while the balance is, of course, to balance. The baloon is like the controlable floating device(they both make you moove but they domt propulse you as a jet engine would)

[@Paprikajlo]

I really enjoy screaming at the screen even though I know Scrapman will eventually try the thing I'm screaming xD

[@acidicpoisonz]

so genuinely I had guessed twelve. though I wasn't sure how you were going to do it. NOICE!

[@ryanoppermann522]

i love your vidss!!!!!

[@thomasgoerke8359]

-Start of the video- ScrapMan: “Eleven balloons, with really really good aerodynamics” Me: “I’ll one up your guess then, twelve” -ScrapMan adds eleven balloons- It doesn’t work, he’s not happy that it doesn’t work. -ScrapMan adds twelve balloons- Me: “LESSGO, I actually got it correct for once!” I shouted this out in front of my family at breakfast time.

[@LateToSocialMedia]

This video made me sing 99 red balloons in my head continuously.

[@ivan-ky9mk]

You can try putting a helicopter engine underneaf to spin your venichle really fast, this helps with the stability problems

[@hutchiefam]

One Idea could be to get rid of the connector pieces. You could just rotate the outer air dynamic pieces.

[@SapioiT]

Now please try the same with the Party Balloons.

[@turnedwheat2013]

Your jokes are always terribly good 😅

[@sagy101]

Maybe put the pilot seat between the balloons? Like 6 on top and 5 on the bottom maybe? To fix center of mass with no extra mass

[@dragongamerandart]

You will need as many balloons as there were in the movie UP Why? Don't question me! because there is going to be tonnes of metal from the aerodynamics to the seat and the cages that surround the balloons

[@zombiewolf123]

you could try replacing the wedges with the new airplane cockpit

[@dragonmasterlangeweg7625]

Try moving the seat lower. Yes it will add weight but it will also lower the center of mass, therefore you don't tip and can go slightly faster.

[@prodoge2795]

It’s ok Scrapman. You were one over while I was 38 over lol 11:10

[@karlkaljuste2910]

Hey scrapman i think u should make a airship that moves as u are not sitting so you can fly in survival easily

[@CraftingCat_IX]

The spoilers could have actually worked, you would just have to attach them by pushing the one spoiler on the “bottom” of the seat up one.

[@theodoric4270]

Staggering the spoilers like that would balance the forces, but not the rotational moments. The vehicle would act like a lever; the spoiler farthest from the center of mass would have a greater effect on the rotation of the vehicle, causing it to tilt. However, this effect would be much lesser than Scrapman's test with just one spoiler.

[@stormyojayson7725]

hi scrap man love ur vids ur a huge rolemodel to me ur amazing

[@potatopotato9386]

You could try using the space ship seat which is fully centered and would fix the tilting issue because it is 50 kg. Also you could try the operator seat which weighs the same as the go-cart seat and is fully centered. I don’t know if either of these will work but I think it would be worth a try.

[@mikegrimes2836]

so does this inflatable balloon replace the submarine inflatable piece? seems to me you could make a pretty sweet dual purpose flying sub if it does in fact work that way???

[@crayder1100]

Easy solution to the wedge nose. You can use a detachable block to detach/destroy them. The aerodynamics they gave is still there, but the parts/weight won't be. ThatDomGuy did a video on this. It still works, unless they changed it in the Airborne update that is.

[@Mobliz]

20:20

[@crayder1100]

​@@Mobliz You trying to say something? I've watched the video lol.

[@soulreaper1981]

Me rubbing my hands and grinning, as scrapman man is putting on the chirpo passager seat he can't get in 😂

[@tvh4260]

If you would’ve just lessened the weight at the top it would’ve fixed all of your problems, the air doesn’t get caught on blocks, if there is an 1x4 aerodynamic block there, its fine. So basically you could’ve done it with 11, maybe 10

[@tvh4260]

Nevermind, you did that at the end

[@tvh4260]

You then also added extra weight by adding the flat connectors

[@franio_gangster1329]

That front i mean that top of the aircraft can reduce weight, delete the middle rows of wedges and rotate the remaining two rows so they cover whole baloon.

[@kevin29121993]

Watching another video I noticed that in the balloon settings there are both the inflation speed but also another gas mixture parameter and I was wondering if it would change the buoyancy of the balloon. and thus change the rate of climb.

[@Loooore3483]

What if you set balloons to be maximally expanded from begining, so you don't gradually increase speed, but instead zoom right up there

[@keremo4885]

I Think you should have added aerodynamics to the back too It would have been enough

[@nathancurnow2410]

I don't know how heavy the camera block is, but you could put a camera somewhere on your craft and then put a seat on a detachment block and use some logic to enable the camera view and detach the seat at the same time the balloons inflate.

[@nathankelly5976]

Wouldn’t that break the creation because if the seat is detached it destroys what it isn’t connected to and the camera would not work I think

[@yourmomrespectfully1574]

​@@nathankelly5976 detached blocks do not break unless the turn to scrap setting is enabled

[@nathankelly5976]

@@yourmomrespectfully1574 oh

[@AX-vd5ld]

you could try using shield blocks instead of wedges. i noticed that shield blocks are very aerodynamic and function as normal solid blocks to not create air pockets.

[@lynx8779]

Me trying to fall asleep: This video: just 5 more minutes

[@roelieboy204]

I so somany new parts this video. Update gonna be great. Hopefully they won't be locked by the dlc

[@The_Red_Penguin]

OMG THANKS SO MUCH! this is super cool!

[@The_Red_Penguin]

also Thanks so much for the shout out!

[@geckojack5169]

I like how you said that the balloons where 12 times weaker than what it takes to break the sound barrier and then you guess 11

[@akahunter1910]

Adding weight for alignment... When you can easily put a second seat, mirrored And disconnect controls

[@loona_tv]

break the sound barrier with other balance blocks. transform at the bottom of the ocean and see if you can break the sound barrier in your rise to the surface. at the very least it will be interesting to see how far you jump out of the water.

[@nikodriftpie1789]

also you could have added the spoilers to the outside of the bottome baloons to keep it stable with less weight

[@gallagherthewolf5845]

The drag glitch where you cover everywhere with high drag then turn all of that to scrap might do it with even 10

[@-spyler]

i was on the channel and i was like 3 2 1 refresh and theres a new video i was wating so much

[@tornadoblovom3460]

New video already? NICE

[@theripcord03]

I was genuinely surprised that I managed to guess 12 correctly, however I do think there are ways to make it work with 11. I may give it a go when the dlc releases tomorrow

[@hypeflexington7081]

Nailed the prediction. 12. Also was the thing flipping bc the top was heavier than the bottom? Why not throw on a weight on the bottom

[@krimboslice7998]

Trailmakers: let's add some new items including a balloon people can make airships with Scrapman: Hmmmm how can I use this to break the sound barrier

[@larrylarrys1310]

I started up trailmakers imedenetly to try to break it with 11, only to forget that i dont have early access, but what i was going to tro to do was make the wedges on the front from 4-1 to2-1 or posibly 1-2

[@WilliamLDeRieuxIV]

I wonder what would happen if you could "pump" the balloons (deflate and reinflate them and do that over and over) -- I'm thinking it might give you a slight speed boost.

[@leosspace1630]

you can change the design by changing the paddle into a 2 spoilers on the left and right of the seat

[@McSteam3r]

I did guess 12 balloons, but was sweating when I saw you start to try to bring it back down to 11.

[@jasonkrueger-myers8690]

Is there a driving seat that you could use to replace part of the nose cone and the current go-cart seat for a net loss of weight? thinking of the Diving Bell or the Space Ship Cockpit. but I don't have the game so I can't actually experiment with aerodynamics or weights myself. Just an idea I had.

[@Der_Yoloist]

is this the new battle of the moon between you, kosmo and kAN? :D ev1 posting now vids like this haha.

[@blastdragon1991]

Maybe you can break the barrier with the new camera block. You don't need a seat with the camera and I suppose the camera is lighter. Maybe I'm wrong but it feels possible...

[@outandabout259]

You need a seat to activate the camera block from.

[@BUBOjaKUBO]

,,Its still in the 1180s" bro just time travelled 840 years

[@HontubeYT]

I calculated that 12 would work perfectly.

[@MattiAntsuK]

Break soundbarrier? Yes. Balloon amount? I'll say 8, with aero parts.

[@Chew00012]

Wow amazing vid! I guessed 11 too so close!!!

[@fiscalgoose7664]

Now you have to use the party balloons to break the sound barrier

[@warmcanadain7649]

Getting real wandrerbots swasticraft vibes from those aerodynamics (In scrap mechanic if you put a square down with 4 vertical thrusters with 4 horizontal thrusters all pointing one direction making it look like a swastika it makes an extremely stable craft to hit skybox

[@YouravergeGamer]

I’m gonna de honest here I waited for your prediction the I was like ok then I’ll go one higher and when it worked I was surprised

[@letsdosomething6691]

i guessed 12 honestly. I've seen Matt (RCE) do many sound barrier videos on his channel and the magic number is almost always 12. I think it probably has something to do with the games coding. but when in doubt 12 is the magic number in trail makers.