How Many Shots?? This Guy Learns What Texas Conceal Carry Is All About

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Hegshot87

Hegshot87

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@Hegshot87
@Hegshot87 Ай бұрын
Hey guys here's a link to Hegshot Nation. Again sorry I can't share these full videos here. Since I'm covering more of these types of conceal carry events, I will put up the other versions over on Hegshot Nation along with the other benefits and the community aspect is on another level. Thanks y'all hegshot.com/login
@user-ef1wb6bt8h
@user-ef1wb6bt8h Ай бұрын
Im old school... if someone doesn't want to get shot... don't threaten people with a weapon
@Blinkerd00d
@Blinkerd00d Ай бұрын
@@user-ef1wb6bt8h agree with you 100% and I too am from Texas.
@dagthewog6290
@dagthewog6290 Ай бұрын
@@Blinkerd00d It's a Texas thing. Others will not understand.
@paulm749
@paulm749 Ай бұрын
This story isn't complicated: Concealed carrier took out the trash. The End.
@scottdunn8518
@scottdunn8518 Ай бұрын
I guess a grand Jury in texas agreed with you..
@corycasey5151
@corycasey5151 Ай бұрын
If somebody pulls a gun on you defend yourself
@honda116969
@honda116969 Ай бұрын
Only thing that guy is guilty of is wasting resources... (Ammo)
@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 21 күн бұрын
Seems to me like it went to good use. Is a piece of toilet paper wasted when it goes down the drain?
@Johonavich49
@Johonavich49 Ай бұрын
I agree with you. The guy who shot was defending himself, and everyone in that restaurant.
@thadward4629
@thadward4629 Ай бұрын
Hey if the police can do it, so can we.
@andrewprice1774
@andrewprice1774 Ай бұрын
The guy robbed the place, wanted bullets. He was begging for them... is it wrong for our good Samaritan to be so charitable and caring!!!!
@6969-c6m
@6969-c6m Ай бұрын
Came looking for some nuggets
@MrWirelesscaller
@MrWirelesscaller Ай бұрын
@@6969-c6m With ammo prices so high most likely he was there to see if anyone could give him some for free.
@erich9004
@erich9004 Ай бұрын
In Oklahoma, there was a pharmacist that went to jail for shooting and armed robber. The pharmacist shot him twice and then stood over him and proceeded to emptied his gun. The DA said that if he stopped after the first two bullets it would’ve been self-defense, but because he stepped over him and emptied his gun, it went from self-defense to murder. I am surprised the same thing didn’t happen to this guy
@wissn2112
@wissn2112 Ай бұрын
That last one was like.. What the heck... Not saying they didn't deserve it. Depends if his hand was still on the gun.
@JohnRice992
@JohnRice992 Ай бұрын
Self-Defense is easy. Protecting others is another Animal entirely.
@farmrrick
@farmrrick Ай бұрын
Remember when KZbin was awesome ? Long time ago huh ?
@RealityRenegade-bv2ww
@RealityRenegade-bv2ww Ай бұрын
Facts, brother. Then, the big corporate money started dictating.
@troy9er
@troy9er Ай бұрын
@@RealityRenegade-bv2ww yup!!!
@keefyboy
@keefyboy Ай бұрын
I saw the whole vid. I my mind, the robber was already expired and the last shots didn't do anything. To say it another way, "No harm, no foul." I've watched hours of Police Activity vids and I've watched cops dump nearly full mags on suspects after they drop. Yes, they operate on offensive and civilians operate on defense. However, they often act with severe regret and some even sob. This tells me that when stress is high, your body just reacts without much thought because that is how animals are designed to survive.
@cycleboy8028
@cycleboy8028 Ай бұрын
Even police are "supposed to" work on defensive only when using lethal force. Once down, gun out of hand... must stop firing.
@keefyboy
@keefyboy Ай бұрын
@@cycleboy8028 I guess I didn't state my position clearly. If a cop downs a perp and they then crawl towards a weapon, they unload. If I drop an attacker and they start to crawl towards a weapon, I'm running away, unless I'm in my home b/c my state has a "duty to retreat"
@dionrau5580
@dionrau5580 Ай бұрын
if you Stop shooting to quickly, it could be claimed an assassination. Mag dump indicates fear for your Life.
@bossladycox2505
@bossladycox2505 Ай бұрын
@@keefyboy That's why we need to push for stand your ground laws in every state and territory of the USA.
@keefyboy
@keefyboy Ай бұрын
@@bossladycox2505 YES!!!!!
@bentwheeldryerrepair
@bentwheeldryerrepair Ай бұрын
The people of Harris County, Texas, are tired of this felonious behavior. The grand jury no billed the concealed carrier with a Democrat DA.
@Vaejovis357
@Vaejovis357 Ай бұрын
Unless you’ve been in a life or death confrontation, it’s hard to judge how quickly it’s possible to shutdown the adrenaline surge.
@the_timinator77
@the_timinator77 Ай бұрын
When I first watched it I CRINGED when he did that follow-up shot, but it's understandable he's experiencing feelings in an intense situation and so wasn't thinking straight. It also demonstrates the HUMAN FACTOR in this situation versus the ideal situation; stupid decisions can happen without any malicious intent.
@shawnlively4753
@shawnlively4753 Ай бұрын
It was personal, Robber interrupted the mans dinner....
@tonyrebel63
@tonyrebel63 Ай бұрын
A hungry man is an angry man.
@strangfangers
@strangfangers Ай бұрын
Everyone reacts to fear differently! The robber was terrorizing people which could have sent our hero into a blind rage, and then he may have left the scene to change his shorts!? Good on the jury.
@halfmil6467
@halfmil6467 Ай бұрын
More likely the chow had given him the sh!ts, and the guy is too self conscious to crap in the restaurant toilet. "I'm outta here."
@oo7-ro6bu
@oo7-ro6bu Ай бұрын
Would the police keep shooting? Yup.
@mrbyamile6973
@mrbyamile6973 Ай бұрын
I think that's why they guy that did this didn't get convicted of anything.
@mikefarmer4748
@mikefarmer4748 Ай бұрын
Only difference, the video of the anchor shot(s) would have disappeared due to a mysterious malfunction.
@lpd1snipe
@lpd1snipe Ай бұрын
Yes the body cam footage would have disappeared ​@@mikefarmer4748
@goodwater2020
@goodwater2020 Ай бұрын
He did point at the guy so I say self defense
@billywilliams4183
@billywilliams4183 Ай бұрын
This happened on my side of town. The place is next to HighTimes on Gessner and Bellaire. The quesadillas are delicious.
@johnelliott4521
@johnelliott4521 Ай бұрын
Technically you stop shooting when perp stops moving, last shot questionabl, but side with CCW. HOLDER.
@youdodat2
@youdodat2 Ай бұрын
Why would this even been investigated.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 Ай бұрын
Because we live under enemy occupation.
@kevinmoore6640
@kevinmoore6640 Ай бұрын
Because of overkill obviously?
@jamesb3092
@jamesb3092 Ай бұрын
All deaths are investigated in all 50 states.
@1014p
@1014p Ай бұрын
People want to protect obvious criminals.
@Silvercrypto-xk4zy
@Silvercrypto-xk4zy Ай бұрын
because arguably after the first for shots the robber was incapacitated, but definetely after the first 8 before that final shot where he was unarmed beforehand
@allanm.corrales6204
@allanm.corrales6204 Ай бұрын
Texas is awesome! I wish my cowardly country was like that
@bjs301
@bjs301 Ай бұрын
An angle you didn't consider is how it was presented to the grand jury. Probably every law student in America is taught that a competent prosecutor could indict a turnip. Very often, a no bill is returned because the prosecutor had to take the case to grand jury for legal or political reasons, but did not really want to indict. I bet there was some of that here.
@misterle7026
@misterle7026 Ай бұрын
Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prize...
@Drew-tj8gz
@Drew-tj8gz Ай бұрын
Thou shall not steal. How hard is that to understand??
@johnelliott4521
@johnelliott4521 Ай бұрын
Grand jury was composed of true Texans.
@rlb4592
@rlb4592 Ай бұрын
"Give it to me Old Man" OK
@jimsandberg2000
@jimsandberg2000 Ай бұрын
God Bless Texas, I applaud the grand jury. Hard to be judged by people that weren't there I will ALWAYS err oh the side of the citizen over a criminal EVERY single time.
@whatsup24_7
@whatsup24_7 Ай бұрын
Active Self Protection channel shows everything and doesn't freeze frame and his vids never get taken down
@-whiskey-4134
@-whiskey-4134 Ай бұрын
Grady Judd here in FL, along with a few other sheriffs tell us to let loose with everything we have and make sure they dont get back up at all if we have to deploy our personal defense items. Trying to not have my comment removed for using certain language. But yeah, here in FL, the sheriffs would be all for what this guy did and would encourage others to do the same.
@bossladycox2505
@bossladycox2505 Ай бұрын
💯🎯 🤯🔫
@eddiehernandez8074
@eddiehernandez8074 Ай бұрын
I wish we had a Grady Judd for President!!!
@farmrrick
@farmrrick Ай бұрын
F around and find out I agree.
@SavageFoxProductions
@SavageFoxProductions Ай бұрын
Saved taxpayers money add stoped him from turning other people into victims
@thatdude7587
@thatdude7587 Ай бұрын
As a conceal carrier myself I hope to never have to use my gun with that being said this guy who used his gun and kept firing even after the guy was down and the gun was taken from him was not acceptable in my eyes. He is very lucky he didn't get charged with murder even if it was self defense. Just good to that everyone is okay other then the idiot robbing people
@99bristol
@99bristol Ай бұрын
This was big in Houston for a few wks, shooter was Hispanic so there's that.
@allanm.corrales6204
@allanm.corrales6204 Ай бұрын
I think it was a knee grrr, his mom was trying to "take legal actions" 😂
@TopNotch_Fishing
@TopNotch_Fishing Ай бұрын
The robber played the game and he lost no sympathy here super happy to hear that the self defender was acquitted of all charges
@edwilliams4793
@edwilliams4793 Ай бұрын
@@TopNotch_Fishing Stupid game, stupid prize.
@3rdRangerBN
@3rdRangerBN Ай бұрын
He had adrenaline pumping and obviously didn’t know what to do. The problem I see is he didn’t think about that first guy that was robbed, he was directly in the line of fire, if he missed or a bullet went through he could have easily shot that poor guy that just wanted to eat his dinner. I’m combat veteran so it’s not fair to criticize someone who’s never had to shoot someone. He should have been more aware of his surroundings before he fired. I would have gone for a single head shot at that distance after making sure everything was clear in the direction I was firing, kicked the gun away and called the police. Then I could have finished my dinner while waiting for them to get 12:07 there. I’ve seen people take a fatal body shot and get off 10 rounds before they collapsed, it’s not like the movies.
@periloustactic
@periloustactic Ай бұрын
The Gestopo lives at Google.
@dionrau5580
@dionrau5580 Ай бұрын
And KZbin is run by Commie's. Communist arm of Google.
@jbkk5177
@jbkk5177 Ай бұрын
The grande jury may have determined the perpetrator was already going to sucomb to to his injuries already sustained, that would have been based on the coroner determination of the injuries, gun shots sustained at each phase of the shooting... The full context needs to be understood...
@jordanmeija7384
@jordanmeija7384 Ай бұрын
Dont stop until there is no ammo left in your gun
@wissn2112
@wissn2112 Ай бұрын
Not always good. There could be a 2nd bad guy that shows up after you are empty so fast.
@charliemeyer4651
@charliemeyer4651 Ай бұрын
The guy was lucky that this was in the great state of Texas!! In the liberal state of California he would have been found guilty before the last shell casing hit the floor.
@michaelbondy-ud9jx
@michaelbondy-ud9jx Ай бұрын
I appreciate this video and while I've never been in this situation outside the military I agree with your assessment. That's why it's important to train for a situation like it's real life. I was thinking about this last week and had been wondering how the police and jury would handle it.
@Jor-El-Earth1
@Jor-El-Earth1 Ай бұрын
I generally agree with you regarding any shots once the bad guy is down. I also say that once you go down that road, it's an adrenaline dump, and people do weird things under that kind of stress.
@H.1965-s8p
@H.1965-s8p Ай бұрын
Pew, pew, pew!!...pew. 😂
@1014p
@1014p Ай бұрын
This seems like an old case. First off the thug offered his life in exchange for potential bounty by robbery. Getting put down clearing flagging everyone with what looks to be a convincing gun. Is asking to be counter engaged. Follow up shot, well police shoot again and again just because you twitch. So if they can do it so can citizens. The cop excuse they are resisting, still near a weapon, poses a danger. This is a clear present danger situation. That robber has opted to not be a civil person. No further look is needed. It's not like the guy pulled in the dude and started blasting a random person.
@MortRouge
@MortRouge Ай бұрын
Respectfully, I disagree. If you are justified in firing one shot then you are justified in emptying that magazine. There is no difference between the first round that leaves the gun to the last round that leaves the gun. I understand the need to validate the perception of self-defense. But that is a right that does not need validation from higher authority.
@BarryHolsinger
@BarryHolsinger Ай бұрын
Always doubletap
@MortRouge
@MortRouge Ай бұрын
@@BarryHolsinger rule #2
@shafaa1
@shafaa1 Ай бұрын
@MortRouge hope you have a good attorney dude.
@MortRouge
@MortRouge Ай бұрын
@@shafaa1 I do, bro. I also live in a stand your ground and a castle law state.
@DustyChalk
@DustyChalk Ай бұрын
I think it's impossible for us to know. If that was his first incident (and it statistically probably is), there may have been quite a bit of -- what I call -- "emotional momentum". 99% of us Americans watch too many movies and too many TV shows where the bad guy gets up after being shot 4 times, so he may have just been making sure. May have been jumped up on sugar and caffeine. (You'd be surprised how much a Mountain Dew could change your whole world view.) Who knows? I certainly don't. A good lawyer will ask the right questions and put together a decent compilation of not just the actions that took place, but the hypotheticals going through the guy's head.
@bertbennett2719
@bertbennett2719 Ай бұрын
How would a cop deal with this situation?
@dhorubaPRIME
@dhorubaPRIME Ай бұрын
Do you have the legal power of the police fraternal order??? I would say that legal backup is what separates cops from Average Joe American in a self-defense shooting. Cops seldom have to prove their life is threatened while the CCW holder generally, has to prove that. I live in a non-communist state and I conceal carry but every state isn't Texas.
@Kosher_Slider
@Kosher_Slider Ай бұрын
They would have mag dumped about 2 mags then yelled stop, drop it
@georgegravette1132
@georgegravette1132 Ай бұрын
More likely, "Sir, stop resisting!" 😂
@4rch3er19
@4rch3er19 Ай бұрын
The gangsters (allegedly), were the only ones scared AF hiding under the table.
@Hegshot87
@Hegshot87 Ай бұрын
I do want to emphasize again I agree with a lot this guy did and these situations are tough but there's just some mistakes we can all learn from here. What do y'all think?
@jtec99
@jtec99 Ай бұрын
I know what your saying, on a human level though... Point a gun at me and you made your own choice as to what's coming next. Adrenaline dump for people who've never been in high stress situations may very well manifest in this type of scenario more often than not
@bmaxse
@bmaxse Ай бұрын
Agreed. That last shot was bad. I wouldn't do that. And i wouldn't just leave the scene unless if threat still active. And be the first to call 911. 👍🏼🤟🏼👏🏼🙏🏼
@KR-mt2zx
@KR-mt2zx Ай бұрын
​@@jtec99Exactly. Imo that's what happened. Adrenaline dump and he wasn't able to think straight because of it.
@oldtanker4860
@oldtanker4860 Ай бұрын
I understand the "adrenaline dump" situation. Problem is, once the shooter picked up the gun, he realized it was fake and threw it across the room. Shooting again after that was in my mind both unnecessary and inexcusable as he clearly knew there was no more threat. I also disagree with his flight from the scene.
@KR-mt2zx
@KR-mt2zx Ай бұрын
@oldtanker4860 I'm not saying it was right or I agree whatsoever, but when you're in a situation like that, it's hard to say what you'll do. Some people can't even babble anything after the fact, let alone try to talk (which obviously isn't smart anyway) past trying to ask for a drink of water.
@puppydog6915
@puppydog6915 Ай бұрын
why are citizens expected to act with better than law enforcement; lawenforcement reguarly empties entire clips into people.
@sickgixxer7869
@sickgixxer7869 Ай бұрын
Hope this dude had a good night watching the news and laughing
@williamyoung5001
@williamyoung5001 Ай бұрын
He was dumb for leaving the scene
@danwilkening888
@danwilkening888 Ай бұрын
I agree. Only enough to STOP THE THREAT!
@adamclark-joseph2581
@adamclark-joseph2581 Ай бұрын
I agree with you that the initial shots were easily justified, but the additional shots were questionable (but hard to tell without seeing the full video). Anyway, great discussion--really glad I found this channel!
@1014p
@1014p Ай бұрын
It's saving tax dollars and free police to go after others are let to roam free. This guy was flagging everyone looking for a victim. More oxygen for the civil people.
@amyzumbrock-aufman6060
@amyzumbrock-aufman6060 Ай бұрын
If judging, remember what its like today out there. Drugs, mental illness, poverty due to the crap economy and even hormones have seemed to make people crazy, unpredictable and scary. Thank God with another 500k murderers out there and no Police personnel or budget and the 'restrictions' aka ROE on I.A., nobody can blame someone for stopping this threat to everyone. IL here, we're in schitts creek.
@mikefarmer4748
@mikefarmer4748 Ай бұрын
Anchor shots are even dumber, if possible, than warning shots.
@allthecommonsense
@allthecommonsense Ай бұрын
2:51 not true. Active Self Protection shows full videos like this on YT every day.
@chrisbohanon403
@chrisbohanon403 Ай бұрын
YT is prejudice against strictly gun channels.
@mrbyamile6973
@mrbyamile6973 Ай бұрын
Certain "news" channels can show it if it's blurred, I've seen some not blurred but I think they get demonetized. Also KZbin is arbitrary what they consider "news" hence the quotation marks. I think he also could have blurred the video and keep monetization. Donut Operator does all the time. I think by not showing any of the shots fired just ensured he didn't get demonetized.
@snappertrx
@snappertrx Ай бұрын
One of my coworkers tells the tale of a local man, years ago, who ended up in a self defense situation. He shot the kid trying to rob/attack him, then walked over and gave him the coupe de grace. At trial they asked him why he felt the need to do that after the attacker was already down, to which he replied that it was what they taught him during WW2, and it just happened. He was trained that way and it was instinctual. The jury let him walk. I'd like to know what the background on this concealed carrier was, and if this may have been a same type situation.
@squib3083
@squib3083 Ай бұрын
The Good Samaritan ended the threat and protected those around him. I’m so tired of the nit picking of his actions. When seconds count, help is only minutes away. He had to act and he did it in the way he knew best.
@eschelar
@eschelar Ай бұрын
I would consider these two secondary questions. #1 was the person already dead after the first 4 shots? If so, shooting a corpse is not murder and only serves to show an agitated mental state from stress. That might not be a criminal act. Or it might be a criminal act, but the jury might have seen it as too insignificant compared to the gravity of what happened. #2 if the person was still alive when further shots were fired, were the subsequent shots made in response to actions or movements? 4 shots doesn't mean that they were fatal. There's a lot of questions that are uncertain even from the description of the situation we have from you.
@srb1855
@srb1855 Ай бұрын
I thought that this "post mortem" was very valuable.
@TheTongMan
@TheTongMan Ай бұрын
Stop charging good people. The justice system is dumb af.
@slbhanna
@slbhanna Ай бұрын
I don’t mind listening to criticism, because that’s how we learn. My son does it to me every chance he gets. The shooter did shoot more than I would’ve and I would’ve NEVER left. Finding out that the gun was fake probably would destroy me, but that’s just me.
@constitutionalright827
@constitutionalright827 Ай бұрын
Hear ya but whether the gun was real or not, doesn't matter. His intent was for you to believe it was real. You did. Never feel guilt over the best decisions you could make in what presents as a life or death situation.
@slbhanna
@slbhanna Ай бұрын
@@constitutionalright827Thank you. 👍🏻
@Jman531
@Jman531 Ай бұрын
Honestly, 4 shots are questionable, two I can see, and a third if necessary, but 4, then 5 more, police do that all the time. But most self-defense laws say that you can fire only the number to stop the person. So I agree with you that this could be excessive, but I can also see a grand jury justifying this shoot. My training is fire two shots initially, then another if the threat is still there, and then continue to fire until the threat stopped. The shot this concealed carrier first made would have stopped the threat in most cases, and a 3rd and 4th definitely would have ended the threat. So this was a questionable shoot due to the number of times fired.
@BarneyFife1776
@BarneyFife1776 Ай бұрын
He obviously fired the last one because he didn't want to see him in court in a wheelchair
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 Ай бұрын
The 1964 Warren Commission Report was essentially a Grand Jury hearing--the prosecution's case against Oswald. There is more than a bit of Star Chamber secret trials in Grand Jury hearings, but the Fifth Amendment starts with "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces or in the Militia when in actual service in time of War or public danger;" Basics Civics... Understand this--only innocent people are put on trial in the USA--at trial, the state must prove to a jury that the defendant is guilty. A Grand Jury is not a finding of guilt, only a green light to hold a public trial for the defendant. Keeping evidence presented to the most high-profile Grand Jury hearing in the 20th Century secret is in line with Grand Jury procedures. An unusual amount of the prosecutor's theory of the crime has been released to the American public even though it has taken six decades. A defendant may plead guilty, may opt for trial by only a judge (capital crimes may not permit this), or a jury finds the defendant guilty, the defendant may be incarcerated to protect the public and prevent flight or prevent the defendant from terrorizing the jury, but until determined guilty at trial or unless the defendant pleads guilty, the defendant is innocent and the burden of proving guilt is on the State. That means the defendant isn't convicted--yet. Dead people can't be tried in court for capital crimes. Grand Juries do NOT determine guilt, nor is a "no true bill" anything more than "we don't have enough to hang the scoundrel; not this time." Grand Juries, unlike the criminal trials, can be held over and over and over again until the indictment is secured--much like flinging spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks. Two cases of multiple Grand Juris were the Zimmerman/Martin case in Florida and the Kenosha Kid mass shooting trial with Kyle Rittenhouse--and the only reason that both were not immediately hauled into federal court after being found not guilty (as happened in several high-profile police brutality cases such as the Rodney King trials) was that in Federal Grand Juries couldn't make any indictments stick on Zimmerman or Rittenhouse. That Houston man who killed an armed robber in a taco bar didn't commit any crime that a federal Grand Jury could haul him in for. Oswald's Dallas shooting spree wasn't in violation of federal laws at the time. It was up to Texas to charge him (done) and then he charges would have to go before a Texas Grand Jury before Oswald could be put on trial. There is no defense presented during the Grand Jury hearing, only "is there enough to hang the scoundrel?" Serving as a Grand Jury for a dead man, the Warren Commission ruled "Oswald did it all by his lonesome and wasn't influenced by anybody other than Oswald's inner demons." Never forget the influence of the Court of Public Opinion and that rare property of Common Sense on a real jury during a real capital crime. What would the charge be? Premeditated murder? Homicide during mutual combat? Losing it when finding out that the robber had fooled everybody with hi fake gun? "It's a Monday, I hate Mondays, just hang him!" Because the Grand Jury cannot determine guilt or decide to acquit, the Double Jeopardy ("nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb;) apply--the only peril suffered is going to trial, and the Grand Jury is a hearing to establish if there is sufficient evidence to convict, not if the accused is guilty. In other words, years down the road another Texas Grand Jury may issue an indictment. Unlikely--the State is loath to admit error, more so that the newspapers who headline a report found false and put a retraction on Page 8. On the other hand, once the armed robber fled or surrendered or was otherwise no longer an active threat, the Law requires a cease fire. It's no longer defense when the robber is no longer an imminent threat. Local laws may vary. I've had concealed carry permits in Nevada and Utah where it is an affirmative defense to use deadly force to prevent someone who has committed a forcible felony in your presence from escaping. I've also been a licensed unarmed licensed security guard in Arizona, California, Nevada and Utah over a 30-year period and the "stop a felon from escaping" was a very iffy justification in California for a private citizen (security guards are acting as private citizens who represent property owners--with some exceptions if the property owner is the state government or Uncle Sam). An autopsy wouldn't be able to prove if the Houston man fired shots into an already dead robber or if the robber was still alive and conscious when those final shots were fired. What's the penalty for desecrating corpses in Texas? Alive or dead, who at the scene was authorized to declare the robber dead? That's a job for the legal guys!
@dbcooper69
@dbcooper69 Ай бұрын
Oklahoma in 2009, Pharmacist Jerome Ersland was convicted of murder and sentenced to life for taking out a 16-year-old robber. The 16 year old was unarmed and had been hit once in the head, threat from him was over and he was still alive. Erlsand runs outside to chase the other teen emptying the mag. He comes back in, gets another gun and finishes the 16 year old off. That second shot was the murder shot.
@SlidingLasvegas
@SlidingLasvegas Ай бұрын
That's murder at that point
@Hermitstatus
@Hermitstatus Ай бұрын
Honestly, if anyone thinks it's easy to come off of an adrenaline surge this undoubtedly coursed through that guy, then they are either supremely naive or numb to everything around them. Normal, law abiding citizens aren't prepared for intense situations as this. In fact, I think such excessive force was expected of a first time defender.
@stevephipps278
@stevephipps278 Ай бұрын
I agree with you.
@misterle7026
@misterle7026 Ай бұрын
You can leave the crime scene... but make sure you contact the police.... if you feel unsafe to be there, leave
@jordanmeija7384
@jordanmeija7384 Ай бұрын
If there is a threat you eliminate the threat that means empty your mag.....PERIOD
@truthseeker502
@truthseeker502 Ай бұрын
You can bet the police would empty their guns to make sure an assailant was dead.
@Silvercrypto-xk4zy
@Silvercrypto-xk4zy Ай бұрын
hes lucky this was in texas. i agree the first 4 shots completely justified, id argue the next 4 were als probably justified as the guy was still armed and the ccw had no way of knowing if he could still shoot or not, but once he unarmed him that last shot in most jurisdictions would get him murder or attempted murder charges depending if the suspect survived or not. once unarmed the threat is over
@LAT-qk3vj
@LAT-qk3vj Ай бұрын
Welcome to Tejas. Unfortunately, the culture is changing. Big cities that used to be red turning Blue.
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 Ай бұрын
As an armed democrat, I don’t think red/ blue should matter in self defense. The defender and everyone else in the room could have been killed if the defender wasn’t armed. If you choose to go unarmed, I respect your choice, but it’s a choice and must remain a choice.
@whatsup24_7
@whatsup24_7 Ай бұрын
Your whistle doesn't count as being armed
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 Ай бұрын
@@whatsup24_7 I’m currently working with a Canik, cool little nine. Even with my big hands it’s comfortable.
@farmrrick
@farmrrick Ай бұрын
Bad for all of us .
@GoonyMclinux
@GoonyMclinux Ай бұрын
Texas was blue for 37 of its governors, blue or red shouldn't dictate self defense laws.
@ronniefriedline9995
@ronniefriedline9995 Ай бұрын
If they wanted to they could have sent him to prison, after the gunman was no longer a threat, he didnt need to fire any other rounds. If youre going to continue shooting dont stop shooting. I get it, remove the threat. However..... that could be a very bad thing!
@ozziecrosby2092
@ozziecrosby2092 Ай бұрын
@@ronniefriedline9995 Saved America from paying to feed and house him for the next 20 years so he could come back to society and do it again.
@jimstaszko1675
@jimstaszko1675 Ай бұрын
I agree and disagree with your analysis. I am also amazed that the CC guy wasn't charged. I can only "guess" that 1 or more of those first 4 shots were fatal so the follow up shots were irrelevant. The plastic gun is also irrelevant for a justified use of lethal force. Leave the scene ONLY if these is still a danger. Completely agree, "I will cooperate fully after I speak to an attorney."
@robertfpv7733
@robertfpv7733 Ай бұрын
In Connecticut that dude would be so screwed he lucky it was in a state like Texas.
@MrWirelesscaller
@MrWirelesscaller Ай бұрын
I consider that it was a bad day at work where one guy had his "occupational hazard" moment. Maybe he thought with that "heist" he could get a real gun next time, if he was smart he'd go to a blue state with strict gun laws to pull this stunt at a vegetarian restaurant surrounded by soyboys.
@frankvandalen6524
@frankvandalen6524 Ай бұрын
Yo! Tattoo! He dropped the money on the FLOOR! Outside is the ground. Inside is the floor. Yikes!
@lv4689
@lv4689 Ай бұрын
I think Force Science comes into play here.
@josephsonnier3594
@josephsonnier3594 Ай бұрын
The concealed gun carrier had military training, 4 shots for disturbing his meal , more shots to keep even count n last shot , now he empty n has to clean his gun . Military training 101
@corycasey5151
@corycasey5151 Ай бұрын
Double tap
@markwimberly6426
@markwimberly6426 Ай бұрын
Donut showed us the whole thing.
@xdivineHART
@xdivineHART Ай бұрын
Deadman tells no tales
@4514rooster
@4514rooster Ай бұрын
It could also be a hit disguised as a robbery.
@DavidBrown-uc4yv
@DavidBrown-uc4yv Ай бұрын
He should know firearm self-defense rules, in this case the “Shoot out the security cam,” Rule. Duh.
@GeorgeHathcoat
@GeorgeHathcoat Ай бұрын
TEXAS. The real USA.
@international-arms-dealer
@international-arms-dealer Ай бұрын
Dude on the other side of the perp lucky to be alive after that
@rp6832
@rp6832 Ай бұрын
I know he shot pretty close but the guy across the room seemed to be in the direct line of fire. Could be video angle I guess.
@andrewselbyphotography
@andrewselbyphotography Ай бұрын
if the guy had lived, there is a greater chance that the conceal carrier gets convicted.
@timsmith8506
@timsmith8506 Ай бұрын
He may be an armed robber, but he is still a human being. The goal is to preserve life by neutralizing a threat. The goal is NEVER to end life. These are tricky situations for sure.
@Montross4440
@Montross4440 Ай бұрын
Bet he wont rob anyone anymore...
@TheRealMrBlackCat
@TheRealMrBlackCat Ай бұрын
What makes a person a human being? You are still entitled to your opinion, but stating it as absolute isn't appropriate. Morality is chosen. Integrity is absolute.
@catash7247
@catash7247 Ай бұрын
You flag an innocent person with a gun during a crime you forfit your life.
@johnny_monnier
@johnny_monnier Ай бұрын
El Ran-cheedo Tacky Arrow.
@jonimestas9692
@jonimestas9692 Ай бұрын
To this content creator. You almost sound apologetic for the criminal. Sad.
@joeybishop7604
@joeybishop7604 Ай бұрын
That’s shameful that you’re siding with the armed robber.
@bmaxse
@bmaxse Ай бұрын
Hegshot did not side with the armed robber. What are you talking about?
@constitutionalright827
@constitutionalright827 Ай бұрын
Don't be a fool. He's not siding with the thug. He's making the point that under the extreme view of juries typically, he switched from defender to aggressor with the "Finish Him" move. While on the FAFO scale we all support his actions, he DID in fact create a risk for himself on the "self-defense" scale at that point. Unfortunately, no matter what the thug has done, as defenders we're held to an extreme standard. Shooting as he's leaving etc., not a problem, because the threat is still present. Shooting after all reasonable threat is neutralized-- that could have cost him. Leaving the scene-- also could have cost him. So before jumping to nonsense, learn to read the scene and learn from it.
@dillonc7955
@dillonc7955 Ай бұрын
Clearly you didn't watch the video fully. If you disarm a threat, you don't continue shooting. If this man wasn't tried in Texas, there would be a high chance he'd go to jail.
@porthole2
@porthole2 Ай бұрын
Good video, god outcome. Fix the Flag
@keness4768
@keness4768 Ай бұрын
Texas has gotta be one of the few places a gent could get away with so many coup de gras'. Not advisable to try your luck!
@brandonreeder5628
@brandonreeder5628 Ай бұрын
Its not youtubes rules if you put a warning. The ActiveSelfProtection will show it all.
@joeoconnell732
@joeoconnell732 Ай бұрын
Back in the day they would.have told ya to go home and thanks.
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