How Mixed by Ali Mixes Kicks, Bass, and 808s

[@georgetmusic]

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[@HolyHeartsMusic]

I have that exact same chair in my studio

[@TheRealSandman]

Very interesting as I see so many mixers swear against ever touching the solo, yet here he is doing it & it sounds great

[@djjimbo7432]

Appreciate the compilation because it shows that plugins are just tools...there's never that ONE plug in you really need to get your music sounding right. It's about understanding what your mix needs and finding the right tool for the job. Ali has that ad with UAD praising Voice of God, but there is an instance where he changes his mind and doesn't end up using, and that's okay sometimes

[@TheRealSandman]

Heard about him since researching Dre Dre's style & techniques a lot more. Great tips

[@JordanBarone]

Just wanna say I appreciate you for putting all these videos together, I really do. It's quick and to the point and your explanations help too so big THANKS!

[@jimjoe4309]

Your channel is criminally underrated. 🔥

[@georgetmusic]

Thanks!

[@SSOULJAHKEV]

We must keep this info on a hard drive broh too many secrets

[@azael4472]

ONG

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[@bob-sk3cn]

Im ngl bro all of his videos arent even him talking its endless clips usually pointless, look up alexmadeit bro he leaks audio school material, emails, bunch of shi

[@SYVERIA]

Bro this channel genuinely making me improve my mixing

[@georgetmusic]

Happy to hear that!

[@Officialphorrest]

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[@SavBeatz97]

Thanks for putting all of this together.

[@KavehOfficial]

from one ali to another ali stay blessed ya heard

[@miltchamberlain6218]

7:06 mark ‼🔥🔥 thats the type of thump i luv

[@0capmusic]

bro you are really doing God's work here compiling all this stuff I am forever grateful

[@0capmusic]

The most useful channel on KZbin for mixing at this point that's just fax

[@georgetmusic]

Appreciate it !

[@djpyramid]

Excellent. Thanks for sharing. I’ve learned a lot. Most eye opening video though was Nick Mavromatis episode on Vocal Production. 30 minutes of raw knowledge. SO creative!

[@georgetmusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@halpehalpe]

Slapping a rvox on the kicks i never thought about it holy fuckk

[@georgetmusic]

who would have

[@mojojojo9687]

It's modeled after a preamp. They're used for amplifying a quiet mic signal to line level, but lots of analog preamps get distorted when the signal is hot enough. This is called preamp coloration. You can run whole mixes and busses through preamps to get some of their character

[@DocKaosBeats]

@@mojojojo9687 Smart can you get that same sound using NLS Busses/Channels by waves or the rbass?

[@mojojojo9687]

@@DocKaosBeats No familiar w those wave plugs, but a channel strip will have a compressor, eq and some other things. They're analog modeled so basically they will give coloration. Rbass also give coloration, but specifically for the low frequencies. It's all just different flavors of coloration, so in a way yea they all do similar things. The thing is though with analog gear there's a little more to it since it's circuitry and physics. Some say it's accounted for in the plugin modelling, some say it can't be accurately replicated. Preamps often have transformers, which converts electric fields to magnetic fields and back again, which imparts its own sonic qualities. It also effects transients, which is measured through the slew rate. There's also hysteresis. Some say these qualities give a more "3D depth" to the music. If you don't know about this stuff yet then in a practical sense it doesn't matter. Analog emulations will probably satisfy you enough or you can eventually test stuff and find out. I have some analog preamps and I like what they do, but I'm not experienced enough to rlly compare.

[@DocKaosBeats]

@@mojojojo9687 Thanks for the reply and I noticed that plugins like UAD are probably the closest you're going to get when it comes to getting an analog sound I use Reaper mostly for mixing now sometimes I just use Fl studio but I only mix beats I don't mix full tracks but I do want to learn how one day

[@fernandomiranda9736]

What an amazing channel ! Thank you for collecting this info so cohesively! God bless you and your family! Rom 3:21-26 KJV

[@bhd.mp3]

You can still sidechain if you use a multiband compressor like Fabilter Pro MB...Then you can just sidechain say from 30-80hz. Cause that's where the fundamental of the kick is gonna sit in most rap/hiphop. So you can let that kick punch more without losing any of your 808's power.

[@FredDeMassiveAlambic]

100% agree, still the best way to do it

[@ikehayes9252]

Yeah, I tried this with Tokyo Dawn Nova dynamic EQ, but it was very subtle.

[@DocKaosBeats]

Facts it's all in how you do it plus he's using analog gear as well that analog warmth adds a different touch to your overall mix

[@Skrenja]

I've also seen Ali in other videos using Soothe2 to sidechain.

[@yuulian4776]

Actually in trap the 808 is the lowest most of the times, not the kick.

[@TheRussianGenius]

I literally surgically EQ lol... I must imagine this video took some time to edit, voice over and all, so I just wanna add that I appreciate it. Didn't know Ali had a Twitch

[@algernoncalvin1521]

Greetings, I just used this plug-in for the 1st time. Uhhh👀, this southern 808 hits deeper and harder, thank you sir!

[@xavierlucas8776]

This is good only thing you left out is how Ali uses the boards for his EQ moves and some saturation as well

[@georgetmusic]

Yes this is true

[@salamandr4111]

best mixing channel

[@jimmyhooks]

love me some Decapitator 🔥🔥 Soundtoys makes some of my favorites these days

[@georgetmusic]

Yes soundtoys makes timless plugins

[@ikehayes9252]

Decapitator, the King of Aliasing.

[@cbrooks0905]

@@ikehayes9252 is it audible though?

[@ikehayes9252]

@@cbrooks0905 Compared to non-aliasing plugins, it's audible. Yes! Decapitator is good, but I like Neold Big Al more. It has a superb sound quality.

[@cbrooks0905]

@@ikehayes9252, I don’t notice it. Maybe my ears aren’t tuned to it. I use over sampling over a lot of my other plugins, even though I literally can’t tell the difference. Regardless, there are tons of songs out with this plugin on it so it must not be too bad. I’m always looking for the best shit, though, so I’m going to check out that other plugin you mentioned.

[@HollerAtcherBoi]

Aaaaaand subscribed

[@rukudzolyd]

I did not expect that from the moog filter,

[@georgetmusic]

Yea he uses it vocals too!

[@99_problems_band]

Thank you so much for this video 🥰😍

[@johnnyk4stro]

I learn so much from this channel keep it up bro!!! I love it!

[@mitchellsloanmusic9658]

“Mixed” is such an interesting first name

[@markafterdarkmusic]

Help me understand.. why gate a kick tail instead of adjusting decay/ release? Seems like 6 of 1 but I’m interested to know the theory

[@christophertheproducer4186]

Exactly what I needed to watch

[@themichaellll]

Iowkey I watch all your videos.. Even if I don't like them. You give good content! Stay blessed

[@georgetmusic]

Thanks

[@sdmdark1811]

In this space there’s so much ticks and technique u can learn

[@christianharris9281]

George you're a god

[@j.v.o9275]

Fire videos! Great stuff!

[@Griuofficial]

Thanks for the video!

[@lontedapoet]

Nice!! Golden

[@ourmindzdj]

Really need that Voice Of God to become native!

[@loopsbycarpp3467]

Ali is goated

[@georgetmusic]

Fr

[@barshxtp8506]

how is he gainstaging ? I've seen a lot of times his tracks louder than -18dbfs

[@kyngsect1582]

"Turn me up Ali..."

[@kellcoleStyleEnt]

Do you add a durm bus to run the 808 in kick run mono aux send

[@erossmercedes232]

I see that he mixed the 808s in stereo for surgery and usually I do too because when I receive stems everything ends up being stereo instead of mono so I just wanted to know if that’s okay or no

[@thomastellem]

As long as your keeping the low-end like below 180-200Hz in mono you should be fine! A lot of people split the frequencies and add stereo widening, saturation and even chorus on just the high end!

[@jzilla_grudgegang]

I recommend the 808 to be mono when mastering. When your receiving stems the producer was lazy and didn’t set it as mono but that will not matter because your going to mix the stems without master processing. Now if it’s just the mp3 that’s a different story

[@jaimeventuraosorio1265]

808 should not be in stereo, especially the low end. If you want to have stereo, you’ll need to duplicate it, add high end (saturation or distortion) and cut the low end, then stereo it.

[@vparenkin]

@@jaimeventuraosorio1265 usually on popular tracks u can hear (i've also tested soloing sub on either channels) real sub bass in stereo. If the track is mixed correctly in stereo, bass and sub bass in stereo will not give any phasing or disturbances. imo it makes the track a lot more alive and tasty

[@zwicker5585]

@@vparenkin you’re super correct there is no reason you can’t have stereo bass it’s a common newbie misconception. And I’m not sure, but the above comments make me think there talking about a wav stem file that’s in a stereo track but it doesn’t mean there’s any stereo information in the bass

[@moerahman6749]

2:53 Nice to see that Ali has IMpusher in his toolbox like us mere mortals. Lol.

[@georgetmusic]

Yea although I think he has every waves plugin

[@lemurienconstricteur1745]

gold mine

[@SwimnBird]

Does that UAD moog plug-in just convert any incoming signal into a moog sound? I don’t understand that plug-in, is it sorta like soundtoys filter freak or something?

[@mojojojo9687]

Analog filters have their own character which is based on how they distort. It's modeled after the moog ladder filter which is known for making a signal "fat". Yes, filter freak is also modeled after analog and they have a bunch of different models (fat, punch, squash, etc). Basically it's about how it distorts/saturates. Filter freak sounds great and the UAD moog probably has less aliasing.

[@anonymousbrowser4448]

VOG is just a resonant lowpass filter! You can do the same with any eq :) check out a video a guy made on debunking the plugin

[@agfb4039]

Yooo keep making video after video wow

[@Flingumusic]

Little Labs is just a Low Shelf Filter. A lot of videos on yt

[@TheChrispablo]

there is a free version for VOG called Bark of Dog, its just as good trust me

[@georgetmusic]

Yea I have messed with that. I do still wish I had the real thing tho

[@ikehayes9252]

@@georgetmusic Why would you want the "real thing", when Bark of Dog is actually better? It has more processing modes in the most recent version.

[@lol-sd4uv]

what’s his twitch?

[@ProdbyCeeSick]

U do that and I’m gonna go ahead and sub now

[@bboymac84]

This was great

[@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888]

Dope 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯

[@dosage13]

to sum up.. use uad plugins

[@RicardoSoeAgnie]

how many did you count? Most of them weren't...

[@georgetmusic]

vog,multimoog, and the la2 were all uad

[@josefk5659]

Great video. Which 808 is he using? Hardware Roland? Stock 808 kick from protools?

[@johnnymartin4688]

Love u tanks bro

[@chillingFriend]

amazing! brother, pls do one about m,anny marroquin

[@georgetmusic]

I wanna do manny but he has little no info out on him

[@HKMUSICWORLDTV]

🚀🚀🚀🚀

[@Ivannbeats]

i would love if you could add the songs he is mixing in the video

[@georgetmusic]

Tony Montana and Sugerey

[@Ivannbeats]

@@georgetmusic thank you so much!!

[@Ivannbeats]

@@georgetmusic ngl he really perfected the low end

[@JJ-wm9lo]

Hi The UAD little lab is only for UAD soundcards ?

[@georgetmusic]

yes

[@edenkreyol]

@@georgetmusic Thanks ! Do you know plugin like this one ?

[@georgetmusic]

@@edenkreyol bark of dog by boz

[@numero-_-uno]

so his knb goes beyond -12 hits 0 ,, how is he able to make headroom for the whole mix ?

[@Skrenja]

If you ain't redlining you ain't headlining.

[@numero-_-uno]

@@Skrenja well he is gain staging with vu meters , he doesn't go red , not at all , he just gain stages properly , resulting in him mixing perfectly ;)

[@emanndaman8315]

What are the universal audio plugin alternatives?

[@georgetmusic]

Auturis mini filter and biz bark of dog

[@mixlikenix]

Brainworx Sub Synth it’s free bro

[@Pitchprofiles]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@this_is_jmdub]

Note that VOG and the UAD LA2A+Decap do the exact opposite of each other

[@georgetmusic]

True

[@ikehayes9252]

Not really. You can use VOG to boost the very low, use LA2A with slow attack and fast relase to shape the dynamics (more initial energy and attenuation of the decay) and use Decap to add some additional saturation.

[@this_is_jmdub]

@@ikehayes9252 I‘m saying in this case specifically…

[@neovincibeats]

So 808s do clip

[@maurice4916]

Don't have uad for vog plugin

[@georgetmusic]

You can try bark of dog by boz. I dont have uad either so I never really use to vog trick

[@IanJamesBeats]

George is right..bark of dog is dope.

[@blankcanvasaudio]

What's up George, what are you using to screen and voice record? Going be explaining this stuff as well.

[@notprosperBEATS]

2:00

[@ahmedesmat2552]

🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@alexandredt7983]

0:58

[@Aaaaaa2_3]

no homo but this nigga ali so handsome

[@jzilla_grudgegang]

Make sure you producers are not over doing shit just for the engineers too fix lol

[@felipet.lamaison2177]

"instead of side-chaining I literally surgically eq and find the clash frequencies" well that's pretty much giving up some boost, still can't see the difference with sidechaining. Also, if he then adds a saturator plug-in to boost the low end, I don't see the problem of giving up some boost upstream

[@johnromanos6957]

no you re not giving up, the oppostite in fact . you re gaining up at your output . there is a huge diff when you are compressing a signal

[@rafriley6993]

Compression has a sound to it, I thought the same as you but just try out both and compare, you have to be real careful with compression on low end in general it can easily make things sound weak if you’re not careful

[@ikehayes9252]

Sidechaining the 808 with the kick signal is still a valid approach. If your 808 bass and your kick are playing in the same frequency, there is no way around some sort of compromise. Ideally you adress this issue before it appears, by simply positioning 808 and kick in different "frequency pockets", which is the producer's / composer's job.

[@johnromanos6957]

i think what ali is trying to teach here is the right mindset and know how. when you think of "issues" i think of harmony and it's dynamic range plus the producer's intention/vision . sound is not just frequencies (time) but space too

[@bassinblue]

I think he meant he sidechains using EQ'ing as opposed to through a limiter. Sidechaining through an EQ with your drum bus and bass mix does give you further control of the amount of sidechaining you or the artist wants.

[@nickdijcj1]

You sound like you’re falling asleep during your added intervals, good video, just need some charisma

[@georgetmusic]

Yea im gonna try and be more energetic. I am always exhausted making these videos

[@ikehayes9252]

@@georgetmusic You are doing a great job mate. Just one criticism: you could have called my dude just "Ali" instead of using "Mixed By Ali" redundantly, but it's just a minor issue. Keep going, you got great potential!

[@chandeleerjet5637]

VOG is really good but 8 times out of 10 Waves R Bass sounds better. For hip hop and trap. It’s just heavier. A lot cheaper too

[@yougbuck]

having all these expensive ass hardwares and using their plugin emulations in front of them... does not make sense of having them at the first place

[@dellunamusic]

You gotta show something on the gram right 💀

[@yougbuck]

@@dellunamusic museum exhibition for these fools smh

[@OZKitchen]

recalls are necessary

[@mikehawk2148]

He uses the board for the majority of EQing

[@glockkwise]

vog 600$ (:

[@fireflake_dnb_470]

? im confused by how this is good.

[@georgetmusic]

?

[@Walid.OnTheTrack6725]

he is either so basic or I know a lot more I don't know

[@nikhilupadhyay3394]

You are bass sick

[@J77199]

Voice of God is kind of a joke. It's been broken down by Dan Worral and Paul third. It's an eq lol 🤷‍♂️ Side chain is an important tool in the toolbox. It's all about ur ear ultimately. This dude has some very unique things he does, which is great! Long as he and his clients think it sounds good that's all that matters of course. I'm not really a fan of his mixes personally, but everyone has their own style and taste! I'm more into Serbhan, Jaycen Joshua, and Manny depending on genre. I still maintain voice of God is an overrated plugin. I own it and I think Rbass is better and does more