How Mobutu Screwed Up The Congo | Casual Historian

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@MustacheCashStash125
@MustacheCashStash125 2 жыл бұрын
Mobutu : Hates European culture and influence Also Mobutu : Loves European mansions, planes, cars, goods, and yachts
@slimdiddyd
@slimdiddyd Жыл бұрын
They’re all like that.
@v_isforvictory9366
@v_isforvictory9366 Жыл бұрын
That's all African dictatorships
@unsrescyldas9745
@unsrescyldas9745 Жыл бұрын
a recurring theme in Humans. they hate what they desire. I have a similar issue tbh but on a massively minor scale, I absolutely hate eating meat or anything heavy, and commonly tell my friends not to either, but I as well ate meat twice this week. Unlike Mobutu though I am actively searching for a solution on this matter, I think I nailed down the issue to me being too comfortable, might have to get my house to freezing temperature and start working out again.
@prophetofanu8933
@prophetofanu8933 Жыл бұрын
He hated how Christianity was changing our culture, he hated how we abandoned our God, names, language, and culture over Belgium French. None of the things you mentioned were exclusively European.
@Runthemjewels
@Runthemjewels Жыл бұрын
@@prophetofanu8933 thank you! Bruh The fact this person equates cars, planes, and yachts to “culture” is extremely telling lmfao. Culture is language, religion, traditions, etc. not auto manufacturing 😂😂 And what do they expect?? Europe had long been industrializing at this point (mostly thanks to the colonization & plundering of Africa), so no shit an African dictator will want to distinguish themselves from their subjects by going for the most bourgeois material goods they can get… at time that be would European. You can admire technology and find the people who made it to be bad. There’s actually very little hypocrisy in his behavior here as shitty as he is otherwise 😂😂
@mapwheel00
@mapwheel00 2 жыл бұрын
Important context: the only reason the United States propped up this guy is for the uranium in Katanga. They didn't want the Soviets to get it. Once the cold war was over, they left him out to dry.
@immortalituss
@immortalituss 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it was mostly about cobalt. Why? Well uranium was mined in several places, however cobalt, an important metal for military technology was at that time only found in two places in the world. Congo and... you guessed it... the USSR. Without access to Congo cobalt, the USA would have nothing, nothing at all, which would in their mind mean losing the Cold War.
@Tyson-xl6fd
@Tyson-xl6fd 2 жыл бұрын
@@immortalituss 👏🏿👏🏿
@memyselfandi4977
@memyselfandi4977 2 жыл бұрын
@@immortalituss and the uranium mined in shinkolobwe was used to bomb hiroshima and nagasaki. Maybe that s the reason the country is in shambles🤷🏽‍♀️resources from their land were used to kill other human beings. The wirkd is crazy…..
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 2 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@jaguarmemez
@jaguarmemez 2 жыл бұрын
Ur acting like that’s ok cause they stop letting him be president.US government and CIA knew he would destroy the country but they didn’t care and just wanted to make sure it’s a part of US influence.And if u still think the US isn’t imperialist and doesn’t still use dictators then do research
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 2 жыл бұрын
Despite claiming he's anti-capitalist, he had the backing of France, South Africa, Belgium, Israel, and the US. And him spending his country's money on lavish Concorde shopping trips to Paris...tells us exactly how oxymoronic his leadership was. Republic of Congo...Best Congo
@seekingabsolution1907
@seekingabsolution1907 Жыл бұрын
Rest in power Patrice Lumumba.
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 Жыл бұрын
Despite claiming anti-communist, Mobutu idolized (Mao) and ran the country like a communist.
@JewelEden
@JewelEden 11 ай бұрын
Stop simplifying Africa's problems. Who arms both sides of the divide? Who builds up a man's ego until he believes he is a God? Mobutu did not make himself ... he was made!
@andreebesseau6995
@andreebesseau6995 5 ай бұрын
France had nothing to do with Mobutu,except for his shopping sprees.the man had absolutely no conscience🫣😡
@christianbolisca1493
@christianbolisca1493 3 ай бұрын
Congo-Brazzaville is better than the DRC in pretty much every facet of human development and stability. And it was communist.
@christopherjustice6411
@christopherjustice6411 2 жыл бұрын
You know shits bad when someone says “This is too authoritarian, I’m moving to Franco’s Spain.”
@nathanseper8738
@nathanseper8738 4 ай бұрын
That's pretty bad...
@krakendragonslayer1909
@krakendragonslayer1909 2 жыл бұрын
"They pretend they pay us, so we pretend we work" - is much much older than Mabutu. It is a saying from the Soviet Union.
@Check258
@Check258 2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting.
@cristianpopescu78
@cristianpopescu78 2 жыл бұрын
Agree ..Well known in Romania in the past ,nowaday they pretend they are paying us and we really work for to keep your job for the next years
@meirsimchaesral5095
@meirsimchaesral5095 Жыл бұрын
His lifespan and the USSRs are very close
@phann860
@phann860 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, also the queue that has cabbage on it's head. A Polish meat queue.
@jugsmasterson3313
@jugsmasterson3313 Жыл бұрын
You better take that communist horseshit somewhere else, pal
@robertjean3984
@robertjean3984 2 жыл бұрын
In those years, Mobutu was a good agent for the USA against the USSR in Africa. The West needed Mobutu, so Mobutu could ask anything he wanted from the USA and he got it (like Ali vs Foreman battle...today Kagame has replaced Mobutu and he is the man of the USA and the British. Kagame does what he wants in Rwanda and DR Congo...he knows he will never be worried...until he is no longer needed.
@afgone
@afgone 2 жыл бұрын
A country that is relatively new and not heavily industrialized working with larger powers?! I am in total shock. You act as if this is unique.
@CharlesRexElizabethRegina
@CharlesRexElizabethRegina 2 жыл бұрын
It's called international politics, nothing wrong with it. I actually really rate Paul Kagame and don't see him being toppled. Clever guy.
@TheMrgoodmanners
@TheMrgoodmanners Жыл бұрын
no this is incorrect. that title now goes to uhuru kenyatta just like his father.
@josephineamawiafe9428
@josephineamawiafe9428 Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it!! He was trained by them anyways!
@josephineamawiafe9428
@josephineamawiafe9428 Жыл бұрын
I strongly believe the war in Rwanda had everything to do with the overthrow of Mobutu. These white devils are capable of doing the worse just to get what they want! Sometimes there’s more behind the scenes than we see. For there’s this view that Mobutu was helping the Hutus against the Tutsi’s. While all these were happening, Kagame was been trained in the states to take over power! You know what the rest of the story is! Kabila overthrew the dictator, and I’m sure he was also eliminated when they had no use for him. Replaced by a man people claim is never the son of Kabila and not a Congolese! The story of DRC is a very sad one! The west will be judged! I pray that everyday!!for the Africans that keep been puppets, may God also not forgive them.
@Wezon5738
@Wezon5738 2 жыл бұрын
The man was sick, I remember his visits to Togo (West Africa)…. We had to change our first names. I am a proud African but to think that one person can request of a whole country to change their given names, to adopt whatever his mind suggested to him is still beyond my understanding … Yes we should proudly have and carry our African name but not under coercion from a dictator The west supported Mobutu to have their hands on the minerals … look at the videos of the lavish parties he gave to the French political elite at his residence in the south of France, the French politicians lined up to collect the dough….the west closed its eyes while atrocities were carried out in the country… everybody knew what was going on …. They all knew he was killing his own people and destroying the country, yet they flattered him …..made him feel important, they all knew it was a cynical disturbed joke at the expenses of the Congolese Like many African leaders of that area, he was poorly educated and easily manipulated by the west, he wanted to be “loved” by his colonial masters…. He wanted to be loved and be taken seriously by his western counterparts…. A twisted legacy of colonialism….. Sad for Africa…a country that rich with all the minerals needed to run the modern world economy yet is classified among the poorest on earth
@sernold9527
@sernold9527 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a couple of question if you don't mind answering, also I'm sorry if asking these questions might seem suggestive, I really don't have ill intentions writing this: in light of historic events and known information as well as studies about human physiology would you say that it'd be easy to create a sort of nazi like ideology but revolving around the subhumanity of the white race to unite Africa under one banner? Do you think it is possible for the white race and the black race to coexist in peace? What should transpire for that to happen? Do you believe that patriotic and nationalist sentiment among Africans is a natural consequence and foult of white imperialism and thus justified to be? Is African nationalism different from European nationalism? (By that I mean it doesn't lad to xenophobia) Can a black man be rascist against a white? And finally, do you see christiany with all its denominations as a white man's tool, and therefore a fake belief, or is christianity true, but it so happened that unfortunetly the word of God is used against humans by sinful whites? I humbly wish you a good day and hope you'll respond to my questions.
@Wezon5738
@Wezon5738 2 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of question if you don't mind answering, also I'm sorry if asking these questions might seem suggestive, I really don't have ill intentions writing this: in light of historic events and known information as well as studies about human physiology would you say that it'd be easy to create a sort of nazi like ideology but revolving around the subhumanity of the white race to unite Africa under one banner? 1-The caucasians are not subhuman, many of my trusted friends and family members are caucasians, what is the issue here is greed, the desire to dominate by some (black or white). You will not unite Africa by hating whites, if you do it, Africa will destroy its soul.... I do not believe in hatred between the races Do you think it is possible for the white race and the black race to coexist in peace? YES What should transpire for that to happen? 2- Harmony, peace, fraternity.... You seem to imply some afrocentric view of the world... I am for human dignity and respect for the human race (black or white) Do you believe that patriotic and nationalist sentiment among Africans is a natural consequence and foult of white imperialism and thus justified to be? 3- All over the world nationalist sentients are visible, French are patriotic, Americans are patriotic, Vietnamese are patriotic, European are proud of their culture.... African are and should be proud of themselves, of their history, of their culture regardless of the past......Africans must not be patriotic because of colonialism, but despite the wrong of the past Is African nationalism different from European nationalism? (By that I mean it doesn't lad to xenophobia) 4- I have seen Africans who hate whites and whites who hate Africans, it is not a white or black issue, it is a human issue..... People, black or white should be proud of their culture of their origins for there is no superior culture... they (cultures) are simply different Can a black man be rascist against a white? YES And finally, do you see christiany with all its denominations as a white man's tool, and therefore a fake belief, or is christianity true, but it so happened that unfortunately the word of God is used against humans by sinful whites? 5- I do not clearly share your beliefs.... I do not hate white people, I am an African, and some of the people who made the most meaningful impact on my life happened to be white, some people who positively changed the course of my life are white and I see them as family.... I have seen wickedness among blacks...we do not have the monopole of virtuousness by being black.....I find your insinuations a bit simplistic not encompassing the complexity of the situation, the complexity of human psychology. Africans have been wronged, there was power differential in our earlier interactions with the whites, no question about it, but the amalgam you are putting forward is not appealing. Christianity is a beautiful religion when applied with its intended morality, it is a code of conduct... I will not call it a fake belief... that will be an insult to christians the world over I humbly wish you a good day and hope you'll respond to my questions.
@sernold9527
@sernold9527 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wezon5738 Thank you for answering. I was just curious, as I have writen, if any of what you read seemed suggestive, that was not my intention. Its just that I've seen different views regarding the topics I have put forward in my questions. For example, the simple question if a Black person can be racist towards a white...not everyone would answer as you did. Because of different definitions of rascism. The American definition is different, my country's definition is different and then there's this intuititive universal one that everyone "knows" and we all sort of agree on it.
@rezalustig6773
@rezalustig6773 2 жыл бұрын
You guys in Togo had your own crazy-ass megalomaniac dictator, Gnassingbe Eyadema.
@Wezon5738
@Wezon5738 2 жыл бұрын
What is your point?
@nathanseper8738
@nathanseper8738 2 жыл бұрын
I read the Belgian Congo was beginning to industrialize by the late 1950s. The Congo had a good chance to become a wealthy nation and Mobutu flushed all that down the drain out of naked greed. Thank you for exploring this depressing topic. You've earned a sub!
@mubirunyago9178
@mubirunyago9178 2 жыл бұрын
They always kill or dopose a progressive leader and replace him with a despot who they prop up, advertise and defend at all costs in return for allowing them to rob Africa. Mobutu is not any different from Museveni. Its Neo imperialism at its best.
@beorntwit711
@beorntwit711 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much every African nation had a good chance of becoming wealthy. Sadly, they opted for state centric, overly ambitious, industrialization-over-agriculture policies, which lead to massive corruption, waste and exploitation of majority of their population (the people working on land). It took 7-8 years for people chanting praises for Kwame Nkrumah, to people chanting as they toppled his statue since he ruined a prosperous country. There's an optimistic agricultural report on Congo from 1962 available online (it was written prior to independence, I think), that gives some sense of the bright prospects for Congo in particular. There's also a great article on 'How socialism underdeveloped Africa', but its only partially available, and its also the only English place that deals with the 'L'Afrique Noir est malpartie', a book by the sadly unheeded Rene Dumont. It reconstructs the foibles and follies of African leadership post-independence.
@fastingislife3766
@fastingislife3766 2 жыл бұрын
You know nothing
@bloggtalk5085
@bloggtalk5085 2 жыл бұрын
NOT true.. Belgium being cousins to french would not have done anything to make Congo better for natives.at independence few Congolese were educated to even take over the country. The independence was more like abandonment because they came back to sabotage, leading to killing of Lumumba
@memyselfandi4977
@memyselfandi4977 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloggtalk5085 i still believe Lumumba being the instigator of the congo demise. may he rest in peace but he should have negotiated for a smooth exit of the belgians instead of it happening abrupttly. i was born in the DRCongo and saw how things have changed from the belgian era to what it is today….. it is just too sad to even start relating here.
@dinotsar6396
@dinotsar6396 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that this video won’t get the views it deserves. I wish videos about subjects other than European/American history would perform well, but I guess that’s up to viewers like us.
@tammyonniaDillon
@tammyonniaDillon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they pin 💯 male's I don't believe nothing that they utter
@XxxclusiveReviews
@XxxclusiveReviews 2 жыл бұрын
I'm here
@muskrilcardo9372
@muskrilcardo9372 2 жыл бұрын
The producers of this program should also tell us why the likes of Lumumba who wanted a better Congo was killed?
@muskrilcardo9372
@muskrilcardo9372 2 жыл бұрын
Stop wasting our time
@ggbooy8395
@ggbooy8395 2 жыл бұрын
A bunch of lies.
@emmettcarter9209
@emmettcarter9209 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Patrice lumuba needs more shine for actually being an African hero
@erikrungemadsen2081
@erikrungemadsen2081 2 жыл бұрын
I only know he had a cocktail named after him.
@nikowabantu6216
@nikowabantu6216 2 жыл бұрын
The name congo didn’t come from Belgium mispronunciation And Kikongo is just a language spoken by KOngo people (people from former kongo kingdom which is one the largest tribe in congo now) The word congo was based on kongo kingdom (tribe ) Bcz most of powerful people at that time were from west and north where the kigongo and lingala are more spoken And they wanted to impose all Congolese to speak one language which would be lingala But to avoid more divisions especially with people from south east who are Swahili speaking people Including myself that didn’t happen But they did succeed to impose all the soldiers and police officers to speak one language which is lingala until to this day
@kholeka8475
@kholeka8475 2 жыл бұрын
And the name Zaire?
@erickosisaka910
@erickosisaka910 2 жыл бұрын
@@kholeka8475 it was the name of the river. the bakongo (kongo kingdom) called it Nzadi river. « Nzadi o Nzere » the river that engulfs all other rivers. The Europeans mistranslate it to Zaire.
@fastingislife3766
@fastingislife3766 2 жыл бұрын
@@kholeka8475 Zaire is in the Bible
@fastingislife3766
@fastingislife3766 2 жыл бұрын
@@erickosisaka910 no it was Zaire. Some tribes called it Nzadi but it was ZAÏRE
@RandomVidsforthought
@RandomVidsforthought 2 жыл бұрын
@@fastingislife3766 Zaire isn't in the bible
@calibmatlock
@calibmatlock Жыл бұрын
7:45 it's pretty damn insane that I've never heard of this. France abducting an exiled leader via hijacking a plane is absolutely bananas.
@andreebesseau6995
@andreebesseau6995 5 ай бұрын
France??? Get your facts straight!😡
@hylacinerea970
@hylacinerea970 2 жыл бұрын
too often do we in the west go "yes, africa is full of dictators" without learning why that is the case, wonderful video!
@GraceKugrena
@GraceKugrena 2 жыл бұрын
It’s great seeing Congolese history, great video
@In_Our_Timeline
@In_Our_Timeline 2 жыл бұрын
When independence was achieved, the coalition government of Pres. Joseph Kasavubu and Premier Lumumba put Mobutu in charge of defense. In a rift between Kasavubu and Lumumba, Mobutu helped Kasavubu seize control. He established single-party rule and Africanized all European names, changing his own to Mobutu Sese Seko
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 2 жыл бұрын
Changing the country's name to Zaire was a smart choice for Mobutu, considering his regime was....very much the opposite of democratic. It would've been ironic. Even more ironic was the name of his party, "Popular Movement of the Revolution"...if by revolution he means giving all the power to himself, then sure
@kholeka8475
@kholeka8475 2 жыл бұрын
Really doesn't have anything to do with "Democracy".
@Sokol10
@Sokol10 Жыл бұрын
@@kholeka8475 None of the countries that has "democrat" in their names are democraticy. E.g.North Korea, Laos...
@TheMrgoodmanners
@TheMrgoodmanners Жыл бұрын
never seen such a well described series on post colonial africa, you sir have earned my respect
@jmpht854
@jmpht854 2 жыл бұрын
None of us were sad to see Mobutu go, that's for sure! In Rwanda we used to play Monopoly with the Zairean franc, it was that worthless by the end of the regime.
@ScaryFoot
@ScaryFoot 5 ай бұрын
Yo I’ve been tracking Rwanda’s development, how is it, living there?
@SimoExMachina2
@SimoExMachina2 2 жыл бұрын
Mobutu Sese Seko. In Finnish, seko means a crazy person, so it fits this guy very well.
@yunusjauhari
@yunusjauhari 2 жыл бұрын
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@yankeebisbis
@yankeebisbis 2 жыл бұрын
Its very good when videos like this are made..this show how important these people were and will be in history for future generation.
@arturs2436
@arturs2436 2 жыл бұрын
Paul Kagame was indeed Minister of Defence between 1994 and 2000 but in Rwanda under President Pasteur Bizimungu, Uganda President Yoweri Museveni was in fact an allie of both
@jaybee4577
@jaybee4577 2 жыл бұрын
Well, many people like claiming Africa sided with the Soviet and that what caused Africa’s economic decline while not acknowledging African countries like DR Congo, Liberia etc that sided with the USA and they haven’t gotten better since then. I am glad Africa is getting smarter especially with the Russia vs western world. Africa is not aligning with nobody. Cold War definitely had negative effects I’m africa that been felt till today.
@BigAl2-u7e
@BigAl2-u7e 2 жыл бұрын
Literally no one has ever claimed that Africa siding with the Soviet Union has led to it's economic decline.
@ikengaspirit3063
@ikengaspirit3063 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigAl2-u7e Nah, I've come cross several claims that Socialist policy and siding with the USSR ruined Africa.
@BigAl2-u7e
@BigAl2-u7e 2 жыл бұрын
@@ikengaspirit3063 Pics or it didn't happen
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 2 жыл бұрын
@@ikengaspirit3063 It only ruined the countries that adopted it such as: Ghana, Tanzania, Ethiopia, Somalia, Madagascar, Zimbabwe, Guinea among others.
@haleyguthrie3113
@haleyguthrie3113 2 жыл бұрын
Parts of Africa...Sub-Saharan, middle and north Africa are all very different and independent nations. Like the rest of the world
@DANIEL-fp2uq
@DANIEL-fp2uq 2 жыл бұрын
The geopolitics of the wars and rebellions in Congo is messy lol. It was hard to keep up. Very informative video!
@HikmaHistory
@HikmaHistory 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why the Rumble in the Jungle boxing match between Ali & Foreman took place in Mobutu's Zaire!
@troll_zizipiano2kiev
@troll_zizipiano2kiev 2 жыл бұрын
Because in those years, Zaire was more developed than Dubai, Korea, and many more countries... it was a big powerhouse back in the days.
@beorntwit711
@beorntwit711 2 жыл бұрын
Not quite. The answer is simple: he forked over the money for it, and made it a big cultural lure with authenticite and 'return to Africa', etc. But by that time Congo was already not prosperous; the copper incomes plummeted, and Zairianization caused economic chaos. South Korea had already risen higher and in a much more economically stable way. Though, this is also a time (1974) when SKorea had turned to hardcore HCI industrialization under the yushin authoritatrian system. It was just about to leave the rest of the underdeveloped world in the dust and become what we know today.
@Spritedude212
@Spritedude212 2 жыл бұрын
he pay 10 millions ,in 1974
@mwanikimwaniki6801
@mwanikimwaniki6801 2 жыл бұрын
@@troll_zizipiano2kiev You're right. It was the second most industrialized African country during independence
@mosiahbarnasha8782
@mosiahbarnasha8782 2 жыл бұрын
@@beorntwit711 You're partly wrong, partly right. Wrong, in 1974 the Congo's economy was still sound: the prices of diverse minerals were still high, including the mainstay, the cooper; and the country's currency was still very strong (1 Zaire = 2 dollars). This was a great incentive for Muhammad Ali and George Foreman to materialize "the rumble in the jungle", in spite of the Zairianization and radicalization policies, whose negative consequences were mostly felt in 1976. The turning point occurred in 1975, the year the commodities' prices plummeted due to the oil crisis, bringing the economy into a tailspin and compounding the misfortunes brought about by the Angolan civil war that cut off the less costly exporting of raw materials from Katanga province through the port of Lobito. For the raw materials had to be moved by railway from Katanga to the port of Ilebo, in the Kasai, then transported in ships from Ilebo to Kinshasa, and finally on railway from Kinshasa to the port of Matadi. On the other hand, you're right to point that the regression of the Congo's economy in mid-1970s was coeval with the rapid industrialization of South Korea. President Park Chung Hee, who, as Mobutu, was an army general, a ruthless dictator, and propped up by the USA, was a totally different breed of statesman. He had the merit to establish a developmental state, put en end to the corruption of the Rhee regime, and initiated a series of five-year plans that diversified the economy and set on prosperity upon export-oriented industrialization by his takeover in 1961. My master's dissertation in political science is a comparative study of transitional economic policies of the Congo and South Korea during that era.
@toriidawdy8456
@toriidawdy8456 Жыл бұрын
Well done! The open platform providing sourced history . This is true collective wealth .
@bahaticolette2075
@bahaticolette2075 2 жыл бұрын
It is very sad to hear all kind of reports about African leaders or so call dictators when the one who declared all of this are the one builders and creators of the African’s misery and struggle the big problems we have in the world is we are not looking the problem from it roots or source .The one who made Mobutu are the one destroyed ,criticized and judge him.
@robertgiles9124
@robertgiles9124 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Mobutu was just an angel caught in the middle. He never murdered anyone. Just a regualr Joe. Poor man.
@imgvillasrc1608
@imgvillasrc1608 2 жыл бұрын
That's like blaming the British and French for WW2. Yet they weren't the ones who forced Germany to invade Poland.
@bigevil1001
@bigevil1001 9 ай бұрын
@@imgvillasrc1608Terrible comparison. Britain and France did not control Germany's governments.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 2 жыл бұрын
6:14-6:24 I just love that video clip. Just shows how he was interpreting the world to comform with his fantasy.
@andrewevans4722
@andrewevans4722 2 жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate how much you left your own politics out of this. It was an incredibly informative video and I have very little to add. I will say that something to mention potentially as a preamble is just how twisted the borders left behind from the colonial powers contributed to the instability. I'd also mention on a more subjective level that raising a people up from primitive privation to the levels of socioeconomic wealth isn't a single generation affair. For example IQ is strongly influenced by nutrition and literacy. Nutrition I will not address but literacy for example is shown to raise the IQ of people quite a bit, especially over the course of generations. You can see examples in Africans who move the the US and after a generation start producing intellectuals. In Nigeria that's even happened at home. Ignoring the cumulative effects of nutrition and literacy over the whole of a population is a folly most historians are guilty of.
@noviloba
@noviloba 2 жыл бұрын
No country lacks smart people hence even the smartest and most educated people have to undergo a selection process to access research or engineering jobs. Most innovations are made by a handful of people in every generation while the smallest country has literally thousands of smart individuals. Our world has never had a shortage of genius. The main issue is how a society uses the intellectual resources available. When smart people are not given a chance to make a difference, IQ does not really matter.
@andrewevans4722
@andrewevans4722 2 жыл бұрын
@@noviloba IQ absolutely matters and how you claim the best way to utilize it does as well. The research around IQ is vast and it should be common knowledge at this point. Your huge statement on how people are used/distributed requires a bit of building up. Off hand I would reject it as a statement nobody can know/beyond individuals but if you can refer me to some credible research I'll gradly read it and my mind is open on that subject.
@noviloba
@noviloba 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewevans4722 I did not said that IQ does not matter, only that statistically human populations of millions always have a surplus of smart people. Just apply the normal distribution to 10 million people anywhere in the world and you will find out how many thousands should have a high IQ, based on this probability distribution. There's always more than enough to fill all the top universities in the world. That's why elite institutions cannot use all the smart people available. You do not need references to credible research to validate this, you only need an average IQ and an understanding of basic statistics.
@andrewevans4722
@andrewevans4722 2 жыл бұрын
@@noviloba Okay we are largely talking about different things. The real problem are those on the bottom end and how to raise them up. If you have below 85IQ you cannot read and follow directions. Not just that, there are only so many jobs available to people at that level. We live in an increasingly technical society and these people get left behind. The only things research has proven is that IQ is raised generationally with consistent nutrition and the presence of books in the home growing up. What many developing countries deal with in my opinion is what to do with the generation of two that hasn't caught up yet as they end up in the margins of unemployed or disadvantaged. In America, segment by segment, this happened group by group. My great grand parents for example were likely not college material.
@noviloba
@noviloba 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewevans4722 I don't live in America, in Africa however most people still live in the countryside, so they are well adapted to their environment with the level of IQ they have. It's not sustainable for the whole world to live like Americans anyway. The resources of the planet are far too small for that. It befalls smart people to find better and more sustainable solutions for the whole of humanity. That's the point of having people who specialize in solving complex problems... In a good society, nobody should be left behind.
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 2 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done, thanks!
@michaelx3419
@michaelx3419 Жыл бұрын
Paul Kagame was never Uganda’s Minister of Defense. He served in the Ugandan army as a military intelligence officer (having grown up in Uganda as a Rwandese refugee). He then went on to join the RPA fighting the Hutu regime first, and later the genocidaires. After that, he was Vice President and Minister of Defense of Rwanda, although in practical effect he was the de facto leader of Rwanda, which was true at the time of first Congolese war.
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Жыл бұрын
Based Gaddafi. Africa would've been better off if he had deposed Mobutu
@Tr33ba1t
@Tr33ba1t 2 жыл бұрын
"Popular movement of the Revolution" my brother in christ, you have absolute power
@eland65
@eland65 2 жыл бұрын
DRC is the richest country in the world and also a family business, from leopold to kabila
@wllingtonsingh5080
@wllingtonsingh5080 Жыл бұрын
Their is always trouble in the Congo for the mineral’s which started by the Belgian take over using the Congolese as slaves.
@juniornam1186
@juniornam1186 2 жыл бұрын
27:25 why did you use a clip from the Namibian parliament while saying congo?
@hellsing507
@hellsing507 Жыл бұрын
8:48 that picture you used was not Jean Schramme. That is Mike Hoare, he was the leader of 5th Commando a force of mercenaries under Tshombe.
@GAZAMAN93X
@GAZAMAN93X 2 жыл бұрын
That man's a 🦝 who got Patrice Lumumba killed. 🤦🏿‍♂️
@princekalender2154
@princekalender2154 2 жыл бұрын
Hardly unexpectable from someone named Mobutu. He sounds like a generic African dictator.
@bigwendigo2253
@bigwendigo2253 2 жыл бұрын
Please make sure your audio levels are higher, this is the first video I watched from you and I had to turn my TV up way to high (I couldn’t sleep at 3AM and have roommates), your old Mobuto clips are very loud while your voice is much quieter. I would suggest looking up how to use a compressor and comparing your audio levels to the clips you insert, as well as making sure your audio is as high as possible without going to distortion (get your peak at 0 decibels on whatever DAW or video editor you’re using)
@TheBastardo007
@TheBastardo007 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the DRC will climb out of this mess in a not that far away future. The country has a population of more then 100.000000 people, a young population, many resources. They have a very successful diaspora. I believe we will hear from this sleeping giant in the next 50 years.
@justsomeguy1695
@justsomeguy1695 2 жыл бұрын
the problem is this sleepless giant might collapse before it can rise the population is too diverse and there's nothing much that keeps them together
@TheBastardo007
@TheBastardo007 2 жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy1695 Well that is up to the Congolese population. I believe it can
@iwoodbustanut7380
@iwoodbustanut7380 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@TheBastardo007Hope so, but seeing what happened to other other ethnically diverse countries, like Burma and South Sudan, I’m feeling rather pessimistic
@guyfoxyblack4775
@guyfoxyblack4775 2 жыл бұрын
Mobutu gone now, we have a new dictators from Rwanda and Uganda Museveni 36 years of dictatorship, Paul Kagame 27 years in dictatorship and combined together we got 63 years of instabilities. Both dictators are respectively also dictators in the DRC
@ryanelliott71698
@ryanelliott71698 2 жыл бұрын
25:38 what’s with the weird geography lines? Some overlap each other
@CasualHistorian
@CasualHistorian 2 жыл бұрын
That's a quirk with geolayers, an After Effects Plugin. It wasn't meant for that level of detail.
@johnvonshepard9373
@johnvonshepard9373 2 жыл бұрын
17:24 they said that too in the Soviet Union.
@cooltrainsinmontreal4883
@cooltrainsinmontreal4883 2 жыл бұрын
I like the flag, thats the one thing Congo should've kept, along with merging with French Congo
@khaledowo9760
@khaledowo9760 2 жыл бұрын
16:16 much love for wearing the arafat scarf!!!!
@pleb7612
@pleb7612 Жыл бұрын
pleasantly surprised you said that 3rd way is fascism, you and TIK history are the only ones ive ever seen do that. youve earned a sub and a like from me
@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829
@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 Жыл бұрын
It isn’t always, I don’t think many people would describe Bill Clinton’s second term politics as fascist
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 2 жыл бұрын
Rather random question, but have you ever seen the movie Congo or read the book? If so, did you enjoy either?
@Intiworshipper
@Intiworshipper 2 жыл бұрын
What is that book about
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 2 жыл бұрын
@@Intiworshipper Wikipedia's summary: "The novel centers on an expedition searching for diamonds and investigating the mysterious deaths of a previous expedition in the dense tropical rainforest of the Congo."
@jonathancaro3427
@jonathancaro3427 Жыл бұрын
Besides the brief period. of The Belgian Congo (1908-1960) the Congo has never been a anyplace anyone would choose to live. Did Mobutu ‘screw it up’ or did it just return to it’s normal state after Belgian colonization stopped?
@1111kila
@1111kila Жыл бұрын
Prime example of why forced decolonisation was a mistake, had the effort a natural process Africa would have been an economic powerhouse
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding Жыл бұрын
20:32 are you sure you didn't confused them with unita?
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 2 жыл бұрын
14:59 Also the late husband of Isabel Dos Santos as he was the son of a Mobutu regime supporter.
@leavonfletcher4197
@leavonfletcher4197 2 жыл бұрын
If you read the comic book Wanted, the villain Adam One was roughly based on him. Obviously, he wasn't the first person, but it must have felt like that to those suffering under his rule.
@GodAlmighty42
@GodAlmighty42 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, keep it up bro!
@jimihughes8846
@jimihughes8846 2 жыл бұрын
Mobutu did one thing good I know. Allowing the Rumble in the Jungle fight. Ali Vs Foreman.
@MoiseLevi
@MoiseLevi 2 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Kinshasa ... over 20 years ... You needed him, you used him (he even financed the Iran Contra affair), he was a crucial help during the Cold War, a crucial help fighting various rebels around central Africa, a key US and EU ally, and concerning corruption ... European nations (Belgium, France or the US) are quite worst at this game .... He managed to hold together a country that had been looted by Belgium and left on its own ...
@p.be.s
@p.be.s 2 жыл бұрын
Yes…. Am African and I support your message. These wazungu are so ignorant. Let them pay reparations first.
@alainjoseph7790
@alainjoseph7790 2 жыл бұрын
He kept Congo together by terror & bribery. Yea the whites used him because they threw some cash & power his way 🤷🏿‍♂️ see things for what they are. Mobutu sucked Congo, the whites pimped, he got what he wanted, so did they and when they didn’t need him no more they dropped him. No need to defend the poor fella
@fastingislife3766
@fastingislife3766 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t even try to reason with our enemies. Their time is up. Look at what’s coming for all of them. Remember Simon Kimbangu…… Tika bango na lokuta na bango…bosolo ekobima suka kala mingi te 🔥🔥🔥🔥 ingeta! #MikhaelMassa
@bloggtalk5085
@bloggtalk5085 2 жыл бұрын
Mobutu was the western puppet in Africa, brought to power by Belgium and US, used by apartheid SA together with Jonas savimbi in Angola to suppress Namibia, Mozambique. Not a hero at all.
@p.be.s
@p.be.s 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloggtalk5085 where does it say he was a hero? You think the West are heroes? Karma doesn’t forget addresses…. The West will pay their due.
@vibrusi
@vibrusi 2 жыл бұрын
Before Mobutu, there were the Dulles brothers and the Belgians. They murdered Patrice Lumumba.
@STScott-qo4pw
@STScott-qo4pw 2 жыл бұрын
the dulles bros.... ahhh, yesss. gotta love those two failed statesmen. and henry cabot lodge, anudder meddling tyrant.
@poushk
@poushk Жыл бұрын
Yup the USA and Belgium, same criminals as always!
@meydallas
@meydallas 2 жыл бұрын
Anytime the US talk about democracy or human rights, I just shake my head. The US is not the defender of democracy in the world, bc if it was the case, Mobutu would not last 32 years as the President of Zaire, and destroyed the country the way he did. Mobutu was one of the worst human rights abusers in the history of humanity, and he was definitely anti-democracy; but that didn't prevent the US from supporting him for almost 30 years. Matter of facts, before the CIA installed Mobutu as the president of Congo, the country was a democracy, but that didn't prevent the US from taking down an elected government, and replaced that government by one of the worst dictators in the history of humanity. I am glad that the author of this video talked about how Mobutu's reign ended, bc all the wars it took to take Mobutu down, are still affecting the DR Congo 25 years after his death. Anytime you hear about war in Congo, women being raped, just know it's bc the American government decided to take down an elected government in 1960, and replaced it by one of the worst dictators in the history of humanity. Thank you Dwight Eisenhower 😔!!
@sheldonwheaton881
@sheldonwheaton881 2 жыл бұрын
Massive over-simplification.
@adi2k88
@adi2k88 2 жыл бұрын
As if Soviet influence would have been any better
@meydallas
@meydallas 2 жыл бұрын
@@adi2k88 I don't think that Congo would had fell to the side of the soviet Union if they were let free to decide their destiny.
@meydallas
@meydallas 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheldonwheaton881 I would respect your opinion, if you give me your side of the story; you only gave me a catchphrase.
@adi2k88
@adi2k88 2 жыл бұрын
@@meydallas don't think they would have had much of a choice considering both US and the USSR were hedging for influence. The Congo crisis showed clearly it was a stage for proxy war over a strategic region rich in resources.
@nurudeen2881
@nurudeen2881 2 жыл бұрын
Great content. New Subscriber 👍
@amodog99
@amodog99 2 жыл бұрын
can you share info about commissioning a video?
@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970
@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Subbed and liked!
@thomasxl3975
@thomasxl3975 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, but your mic volume is quite low.
@d.j.2068
@d.j.2068 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@peppertrout
@peppertrout Жыл бұрын
What an honest and compassionate man could have done for Congo.
@mildlydispleased3221
@mildlydispleased3221 Жыл бұрын
You can't forget that Belgium screwed over the Congo even harder before.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@_thacieng
@_thacieng 6 ай бұрын
9:14 you used the wrong picture of Gregoire Kayibanda
@dadbidad1322
@dadbidad1322 2 жыл бұрын
When Mobutu took over there was not much to be ruined. But he didn’t do a better job than the Belgians. At the end of the day the government of a country reflects aspiration and talent of the people of the country.
@blenderbanana
@blenderbanana 2 жыл бұрын
Right. Like how Putin represents the aspirations and faith of the Russian People. Or how Orbean is the Character of the Hungarian Nation, And how Former President Donald Trump is the American Dream.
@adangbe
@adangbe 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the videos of Mobutus former Minister exposing the things he did during his reign.
@loginavoidence12
@loginavoidence12 Жыл бұрын
the congo was never good to begin with. kind of hard to screw it up when it's a steaming pile to start
@stevenguevara2184
@stevenguevara2184 2 жыл бұрын
Is your Patreon authentic?
@kholeka8475
@kholeka8475 2 жыл бұрын
Mobutu's De-Westernisation and African Nationalist "efforts" are the only things I would agree on and do myself too. In everything else, he pretty much fucked up central Africa.
@Chepawala
@Chepawala 2 жыл бұрын
It's Congo, not Central Africa 😂
@TheAtozed
@TheAtozed 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chepawala The region i believe he meant
@kholeka8475
@kholeka8475 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chepawala I meant the region.
@Chepawala
@Chepawala 2 жыл бұрын
@@kholeka8475 ok
@randybridgeman5050
@randybridgeman5050 2 жыл бұрын
Keep it clean...Our Creator is watching and taking notes too! You sure don't wish to offend Him, do you?
@johnsjohn1
@johnsjohn1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the story.
@kelvinnaholo8234
@kelvinnaholo8234 2 жыл бұрын
The last video insert at 27:23 is not Congolese parliament. That is Namibian🇳🇦🇳🇦🇳🇦. Hope you correct this or indicate that the video is just for illustrative purposes. Thanks
@madalfadiallo3317
@madalfadiallo3317 2 жыл бұрын
You left the role the US played in the ouster of Lumumba
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
Because the US didn't play a role. It wanted to, but never got the chance.
@9delta988
@9delta988 2 жыл бұрын
21:50 "Neighboring" Togo 🤣
@okene
@okene 2 күн бұрын
Like 1000miles away "neighbour"😭
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 2 жыл бұрын
Nice editing and speaking!
@fisterklister
@fisterklister Жыл бұрын
He was helped by Eisenhower and the Dulles brothers who killed Lumumba
@josephineamawiafe9428
@josephineamawiafe9428 Жыл бұрын
They will keep burning in hell! Those Dulles brothers were good at assassinating people! From Martin Luther, Lumumba, their own president John Kennedy! When nazi maniacs are employed to cause doom! The CIA is filled with nazis to cause harm to them that are seen to be hindrances to the greedy men in the west! If God doesn’t punish the west for all its evil against Africa and the Middle East, then He Must be dead! Their sins are just unimaginable.
@toptiergaming6900
@toptiergaming6900 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips 😈
@FeldwebelWolfenstool
@FeldwebelWolfenstool 2 жыл бұрын
...the reason why it's the way it is, is because that's exactly how they want it to be there...
@khabasahure9840
@khabasahure9840 2 жыл бұрын
he was allowed to do this because the cia supported him before he became leader if the usa corporations and american state dept did not support him he would not have been in power for 30 yrs or so he served their purposes.
@jakelenhart1456
@jakelenhart1456 3 күн бұрын
"Give me your money". ~ Mobutu
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 Patrice was executed in a plan hatched by the US, Belgium to retain control of the mines. Very inaccurate CH putting it charitably...
@CasualHistorian
@CasualHistorian 2 жыл бұрын
There is no evidence the US or Belgium were involved. Mobutu had is own reasons and motivations to kill Lumumba. There is evidence that the CIA had wanted him dead, but events on the ground moved faster than they could get involved.
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasualHistorian Pitiful - you are not ready for history. Fact - I saw video of a white European with his teeth.
@nikowabantu6216
@nikowabantu6216 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasualHistorian I’m Congolese Yes Belgium and CIA were involved
@Tyson-xl6fd
@Tyson-xl6fd 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasualHistorian they were Belgium recently even apologised and gave back his tooth 🤦🏿‍♂️ could’ve done more research. Typical American don’t want to make your country look bad
@kholeka8475
@kholeka8475 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasualHistorian It was all planed by the West, it shouldn't surprise you how back stabbery the West is after this Vidoe you made.
@jamesrobinson6286
@jamesrobinson6286 2 жыл бұрын
The US and the Belgium government killed Doug Hamerschol head of the United Nations by blowing up his plane.
@allangibson2408
@allangibson2408 2 жыл бұрын
And you can’t even spell Dag Hammarskjold’s name correctly… The evidence actually suggested pilot error since the plane hit a hill on the approach to the airport.
@conniemontfort6265
@conniemontfort6265 Жыл бұрын
Average IQ in the Congo is 64.92%...it is 102 in the US and 106 in Japan.
@okene
@okene 2 күн бұрын
Low literacy rates and poor nutrition
@Normalguy1690
@Normalguy1690 Жыл бұрын
Good video man keep it up gotta love the Cold War.
@TheAtozed
@TheAtozed Жыл бұрын
The perfect SOB for the West, Mobutu ruined what could have been!
@prophetofanu8933
@prophetofanu8933 Жыл бұрын
Correction: The name congo wasn't a mispronounciation of KiKongo. Kikongo is the language spoken in Kongo Dia Ntotila. It was a Kingdom with a King. Its capital city was called Mbanza Kongo.
@natewunderman4597
@natewunderman4597 2 жыл бұрын
For a long time, it was an urban myth in Belgium that Mobutu's palace in Laeken (which was next door to the Belgian royal family's manse) was the largest in the neighborhood.
@chrisjohnson4039
@chrisjohnson4039 Жыл бұрын
The Judas Factor is strong.
@bisimedia
@bisimedia 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video. Surely going to be making a video about this. 🔥
@dypzomo5285
@dypzomo5285 2 жыл бұрын
make a video on Somaliland and the dictator Siad Barre
@tresorclito2662
@tresorclito2662 2 жыл бұрын
To me, Mobutu was the second greatest president my country has ever had just after Mzee Laurent Kabila…he wasn’t a saint but during his reign, the country reached its highest level of peace and prosperity.
@alexandermutune6131
@alexandermutune6131 2 жыл бұрын
He & his henchmen were 'taking & eating' all the money collected from taxes.Great leaders should 'develop' & not 'plunder' a nation's resources.
@emmanueldidier321
@emmanueldidier321 2 жыл бұрын
Are you one of those crocodiles in the Congo fed by Ngbanda with the bodies of the "disappeared"?
@mwanikimwaniki6801
@mwanikimwaniki6801 2 жыл бұрын
Africans and glorifying these wazee is the problem.
@alexandermutune6131
@alexandermutune6131 2 жыл бұрын
@@mwanikimwaniki6801 Exactly that's part of the problem.'Wazees' are seen as full of wisdom in the African context.
@mwanikimwaniki6801
@mwanikimwaniki6801 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandermutune6131 And that has cost us dearly. Which part of Africa are you from?
@larrymar19
@larrymar19 2 жыл бұрын
and I think a more accurate title would be one of the MANY guys who screwed up the Congo
@phann860
@phann860 Жыл бұрын
A good presentation, how sad that one person (using his own supporters to share the loot) can ruin a country but apart from South American strongmen some parts of the world have avoided "The Kleptrocracy" but it is difficult.
@samabeka3023
@samabeka3023 2 жыл бұрын
THE MOST USELESS LEADER TO EVER WALKED THIS PLANET,AND THE GREATEST SHAME THAT CAN EVER HAPPEN TO A PEOPLE !
@burgernouilles3328
@burgernouilles3328 2 жыл бұрын
Great story im congolese 🇨🇩🇨🇩
@gilgameschvonuruk4982
@gilgameschvonuruk4982 Жыл бұрын
How is the situation in Kongo now?
@vaughnmiller185
@vaughnmiller185 Жыл бұрын
It was Leopard skin, not print. Jackie Kennedy also helped popularize Leopard pelt clothing at the same time; the African Leopard went onto the Endangered Species List soon after.
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 Жыл бұрын
Really? Mobutu? Are you saying Mobutu screwed Congo? Belgium, the US and the CIA had nothing to do it, then?
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