How Much Does A House Extension Cost? | 12 MONTHS LATER (Episode 4)

How Much Does A House Extension Cost?
12 months ago I documented a house extension and tracked every penny I spent. Episodes here;
Episode 1
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Episode 2
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Episode 3
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In today's episode 4 I want to revisit the house extension and show you some niggles and problems we have had since. I also want to discuss the final house valuations.
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#houseextension #homerenovation #homeimprovement

[@alyssajenaway3781]

I'm so glad you shared this, our renovator insisted we had three doors on our bifolds. There was a communication issue as English was a second language for him so we just agreed to three but never quite understood why he kept saying "four bad, no good".

[@WUBrummie]

Our architect as well as friends recommended the same. Any more than 3 doors they seem to break/not work

[@A.W.857]

Great mini series. Loved the honest reviews of everything with the extension (both good & bad!). Very helpful, thanks.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mld8]

Thanks for being so honest on this video! I've also got a load of settling cracks.. which I paid a decorator to fix and he did a rather poor job! Your house looks great.

[@Sambroadbent69]

Fantastic series, from someone considering a similar project - very informative, honest and amusing. Great stuff 👍🏼

[@ChristosFellas]

Certified banger of a video! Just got done pressure washing my patio so I certainly feel for you on that one.. Look at those bifold doors in my next house so good to know about the odd number/ leading door thing. Cheers mate

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thank you Christos! So glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching mate. We love the bifolds.

[@madharry6792]

Good to know for a lot of us who plan to extend. Your honest opinion sharing is well received.

[@redruby5689]

I enjoyed your video, building or renovating is so stressful. Either way, you wish you did things differently but are stuck with your decisions....great job. Chin up looks great !!

[@mrsacuity8568]

Brilliant video, followed your extension videos, planning doing a similar extension ourselves soon so great insight on what to take into account. Big 👍

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Brilliant, really glad it’s useful. Hope yours goes well, keep me posted.

[@lukescott8566]

This is perfect! Am going planning doing similar extension, 👍🏼 all the tips will help. Thanks for video

[@KirstyKirby]

Just discovered your channel today via KZbin suggestions and I just love your self deprecating humour! Deserving of such a larger following than you have! 😊

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thank you Kirsty! I hope you’re right

[@alastairkeith8553]

Great set of videos - well done. I work in construction and the usual practice, as part of the builders contract, is to agree a retention of say 1.5% of the contract value to cover defects that occur in the first year. When the defects (cracks etc) are put right by the builder the retention money is paid to the builder. This incentivises the builder to correct the defects. The builder here seems to have done a tidy job. Well done for agreeing the stage payments as part of the contract.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thanks Alastair, this is a really good point. The builder did offer this initially but when the final stage payments were agreed we ended up scrapping it. Should probably have done that. The builders were good honest lads though but that is good advice for anyone taking on a project like this.

[@cherriledbetter1120]

I appreciate your honesty and transparency

[@ThatFinanceShow]

You’re welcome glad you enjoyed

[@Rajantuber]

Your slim kitchen cabinets on either side of extractor, I would have not known if you did not tell. They look perfect. Anothe thing about the dish washer and bin....you are right. these little things do matter in long run. You are an eye opener.

[@jenniferalldred7215]

100% agree with the patio bit right nightmare and I’ve only got 2 cats. Great video 👍

[@amrix1]

Great vid, funny guy...this has given me some tips in readiness for my single storey extension...thanks...👍

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Glad it helped! thanks.

[@stevegreen8524]

Great set of videos Tom, lots of fun and some good points to think about, oh and some great humour in there especially the legs through the ceiling, hope your wife is OK, I'm now going to get my wife to watch your money videos, yes the brains of the marriage 😆 keep it up mate 👍

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thanks Steve - really appreciate that. I can laugh now but I wasn't laughing when I was dangling!

[@LittleTiger11]

Love the video but I must say, the ending was so funny 🤣... I know I shouldn’t be laughing, but your reaction was priceless! ☹️ Poor pigeon 🕊

[@Sewatkar]

Hey Tom, Thanks for this great post, I saw this one first, I guess this is equally important as the other three ( I then saw this first, second and third one), all four were very helpful and insightful. Especially the ticking money spent counter, funding idea and this where you highlighted the learning etc after being there for a while. I am going to go for a similar project for our home, I wanted to know if you could throw some light on how I could get a builder to agree on a fixed price, do they agree on a fixed price ? Post COVID the raw material and building costs are skyrocketing. Any insights about your experience or tips to get the builder would be appreciated. Many thanks again !

[@spaceman6541]

Awesome watch! Love the humour bro 👌

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Glad you enjoyed

[@dermotkelly6946]

What you will find on such bi fold doors is the shear weight of the doors when open is astonishing, you will have operational problems in time , I would advise just one opening door only and the rest glass fixed panels 👍

[@TheMalcolms7]

Hahaha you pigeon 🐦 killer 😂 Fantastic video 👍🏾 Really like your transparency. Well done for the smart investment. We are doing a ground floor renovation, not an extension but we hope it will add value too Keep it going 👍🏾

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thanks so much! I hope people don’t start calling me pigeon killer 😂

[@TheMalcolms7]

@@ThatFinanceShow lol Technically that wouldn't be 100 percent accurate so I guess you are off the hook 😅 but still those windows are just the worst for birds

[@SteveDuts]

Great follow up video Tom, loved the original trilogy.. as the hole is still in the ceiling a dramatic recreation would have been amazing and hilarious. We’re you wearing that shirt at the time as it’s seems to be in tatters 😂😂 The cupboards looks absolutely…. Fine and poor pigeons, hope Bill Oddie doesn’t see this video.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Hahahaha I did think about hanging out the ceiling again but was honestly terrified of pulling the entire ceiling down. It was quite dramatic when I fell through. KZbin money means I can’t afford a new shirt yet

[@r1m234]

I love this guy! Super funny 😄 (all the issues aside, hope he enjoys this amazing looking place)

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Why thank you so much! I'll let my wife know that at least someone thinks I'm funny.

[@TheNimbleNomad]

Fantastically well produced video. Quite enjoyed this tbh. You have a lovely home. Congratulations!

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thank you mate

[@priyafdsouza]

hi this was an amazing series and i am already recommending this to a couple of friends who want to do changes to their houses, just a few queries, did you try sourcing the materials for construction yourself or did you rely on the building company/builder? what heating system did you use to better energy efficiency.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Hi Priya, thanks so glad you enjoyed it. No I didn't try sourcing materials, well actually, the patio slabs I did but nothing else. With everything else going on it was just a time thing - happy to pay for it to be sorted for me so I could concentrate on running my business. Heating is bog standard gas but on a new modern combi boiler.

[@user-qv5lw9rh2l]

Great video. Thanks for doing this.

[@GrumpyGarry121]

I had to chuckle at the loft hatch incidence. I did the same a few times labouring for an electrician, one time we had the floorboards up and something was covering the hole can’t remember what but I was up some steps pulling cable for the light switches, jumped down straight through the roof until my elbows stopped me. My feet dangling over the poor old ladies dining table she was sat at. God knows how she didn’t have a heart attack. My boss was furious in the house but later in the pub it was the top story for a week or two.

[@GrandWazoo101]

You can get decals for the window to help stop bird strikes. Other methods are available.

[@Maria-hd7xt]

Hi, thanks for your frankness. We are going through a house extension as well, with new kitchen. I wanted to know, what stove brand is that one? And what is the brand Sink you have? Thanks Mary

[@Proinsperation]

Absolutely loved the series, thank you! Just a thought, if you want less birds to fly into the window, you could put a decoy hawk above the window to scare birds away from it? They're only about £10 and you could put it in the roof above?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Good idea, I hadn’t thought of that! Although, we do love having all the birds in our garden

[@1960gal]

So glad I chanced upon your Channel on here! I've watched your 3 Build vids and found them really informative. Great presenting skills BTW! This particular vid is a gem as we're toying with the idea (ok, want to get the builder to build for our budget!) of a single storey rear extension. Decided against the bigger plans we had drawn up: far too expensive. Plus not sure this property warrants the spend. Maybe in 2018/19, but 2022 looking like a bad year to spend too much £££??!? Shot me now for saying this, but we're not fans of bifolds. "letting the outside in", "free flow into the garden"....sorry, but if you were to hear the language when a bloody, irritating blue bottle decides to pop in, you'd understand that!🤬 But if the price was right, of course we'd have them! Great point about the difference between the 3 & 4 span panels. Friend has 3 with one as dedicated door. Great idea. Kitchen: looks beautiful. Dishwasher: yeah I understand that. Pigeons LOL!! We've had that on our French doors...like beautiful etched glass! We have a very large Indian sandstone patio. Want to salvage that as fairly new. I feel your pain re: keeping your new patio clean. A once-a-year jetwash and a weekend we'll never get back is enough for us! (Yours looks very stylish tho). Oh and the heating. Thank God you sorted that out before Friday...all that expensive energy going to waste! Thanks again. Will watch your money-related vids next. 👍

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Wow thanks for the comment, so glad you enjoyed the series! Thank you for saying my presenting skills were up to scratch, I have no idea what I am doing 😅. I'm just waiting for the day a pigeon comes into the kitchen - then I really will set fire to the house and move!!

[@niccat7051]

😂😂😂, thanks for your hilarious view of the extension! You have to laugh 🤷

[@ThatFinanceShow]

😁

[@PrettyPennyClub]

Really interesting video. Very honest. The house looks great, and I'd have thought nothing of the kitchen issues if you hadn't pointed it out! Got settling cracks you wouldn't believe in an extension we got about four or five years ago. They have stopped cracking now, but need looked at.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thanks David, I’m hoping they are easy enough to sort! Let me know how you get on!

[@CoolShadesX]

Keep this up, and 500k subs in a year.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Blimey - I hope you are right! Thank you.

[@dansandford-smith6903]

Loved this series!! We are currently in the midst of a similar (slightly smaller) project and I am intrigued whether you considered underfloor heating instead of radiators and if so what made you go with radiators? we are torn and wondering whether go for underfloor in the new area and stick with radiators in existing space. Any thoughts?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

I never looked into under floor actually, let me know what you discover

[@shazj1842]

When I heard about the heating issue I thought yes, that's my problem too, tall rads in big kitchen diner but it's too cold, I clicked subscribe. Then I remembered only the super rich can afford to heat their homes this winter anyway. 🤔

[@adamlasry5225]

The whole house looks great.

[@storytimewithnannyuk8185]

Your kitchen cupboards look lovely 😊👍

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thank you 😊

[@snaubdca7yebf]

I died at the 'dangling like bloody Father Christmas' bit 😂

[@ThatFinanceShow]

I almost did!!! 😂

[@Andy-bl2oq]

Hilarious soh the pigeon at the end😂😂😂😂

[@ThatFinanceShow]

‘Thwack!!!!

[@babachalu1616]

Great video thank you ❤

[@rizikikasongo4388]

The Kichen is so beautiful. The house is so posh 🎉

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thank you, that's so lovely of you to say.

[@sophbev88]

Love this!

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thank you Sophie!

[@robkyle2008]

The window that just keep's giving. In the coming hard times, you wont go hungry. 🎵you'll get by with lots of pigeon pie 🎵

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Hahaha, I’ve never had pigeon pie.

[@ramoah300]

This is hilarious thank you for this video 😂

[@3d1e00]

Just get the black silhouette bird stickers. Used them on loads of windows that had bird impacts works every time.

[@pro-duct911]

Those bi fold seal are just slide in the grove. It could came out of the grove which you need to remove the whole strip by pull straight up or down. And re slide it back in, which as a window and door maker. It never should come out. Unless wrong rubber got used. The common problem is was rip between the rubber and the leg that slide in the grove. In that case you need new one to replace it.

[@Pegaroo_]

9:28 cupboards look fine, the thing that's triggering me is the beam. It's throwing the symmetry of way more than the cupboard doors being different sizes

[@AutomotiveRush]

I agree, maybe paint the beam the same shade as the cupboards as a solution?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Yeah I know what you mean, that beam is holding the entire upstairs up so not much I can do. It’s actually a shallower one than the original one proposed!

[@farzanakauser177]

Your cupboards actually look really lovely and I would never have noticed the issue

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thank you

[@jamesmk1cos]

first off loved the videos good little mini series. glad i found this for a few of the pointers. 2 things, could you not have had a smaller door size and had 5 doors on the bifold? and the cupboards above the cooker that are smaller, should always be for safety as its fire reg to have a gap between them and the hood. the hood should always be the width of the cooker..... hence the cupboards having to be smaller.

[@allisone7909]

The wall cupboards by the extractor hood look good and the knobs on the top cupboards seem to align with the knobs on the stuff below ✅ If you switched the dishwasher and the bin storage, you'd end up with it being less easy to park pots you remove from the dishwasher, so what you have now seems good ✅ I think the renovation looks great. Thanks for the tip on balancing the heating system, off to look at ours now!

[@ahassay]

Nice video! “It’s a pain!… a window pane”

[@ThatFinanceShow]

I’d like to say I knew I was making a pun…

[@ahassay]

@@ThatFinanceShow I couldn’t resist. Every project has its snags but it seems you are overall pleased. You have a lovely home

[@johngreensmith63]

Fantastic vid pal

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@therish7169]

Cupboards look fine, wouldn’t have noticed. Now, re the patio, Tom you need to buy a proper pressure washer, that one is no better than a garden hose! Get a proper electric or petrol one from STIHL or somewhere like that, where they can give you a demo. With the right (or wrong!) nozzle, some of them can take the paint off a car! Spend the bucks to save the time. I suspect you paid not much for that one, and that’s what you got, not much. 👍👍

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Maybe if I ever make it as a youtuber I can treat myself to a proper washer!

[@stephenmclaren9308]

You want your wall units at least 100mm away from your hob (hot zone) so the way it is fitted currently is correct

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thanks

[@dermotkelly6946]

The plaster was the hody to 👍

[@Grangey]

Great videos

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thank you

[@damidammi]

The purchase price you bought the place was very good though!! where did you buy? is it London?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

No Worcestershire

[@GeneralTJP]

FYI - "All gas cookers must have 20mm of free space on either side or as stipulated in the manufacturer's instructions." - Building regs

[@Chanesmyname]

Whoever plumbed in your radiators should have balanced them for you, it can be a pita so some skip it but it leaves a cold room. And I have never heard of building works for off perfectly, I don't think you've done too badly.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Yeah you’re totally right, just couldn’t be bothered to try and pin them back down to come and sort so I did myself!

[@realrich338]

It’s probably the lighting but your LH wall units appear dark blue v the RH units which look black. Overall I’d say minor snags. Can’t you get handle retrofitted on your door?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

I have thought about retro fitting a handle, might look into it. Should be easy right?

[@dermotkelly6946]

You got the hoody as a painters 👍

[@midlandmachine]

Really enjoyed the video, do you reckon your house price would have increased without the extension? (£37k-£87k).

[@duntane3573]

Great question. The market may have pulled the price near those estimates regardless?

[@ooslum]

Just about to comment the same. Shouldn't extend for profits sake if your not going to move but couldn't calculate profit without know normal uplift. Good video, good channel.

[@steves1460]

I do all my own DIY and building work, but I think like yourself, I’m a bit of a perfectionist and never enjoy it because of those niggles! Having said that, those kitchen units look fine to me and I wouldn’t have even noticed if you hadn’t pointed it out. Try to enjoy!

[@stevem4333]

Why don’t you scribe the shelving to the shape of the kids room nook? Then you could install without any damage. Also, if you’d had a 3-pane bifold with a separate swinging access door on the left hand side this would have resolved the weight and access concerns.

[@tom7676]

Sodium Hypochlorite for that patio mate 👌 get the industrial strength stuff.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Will look into it, it cleans up alright with the pressure washer to be fair, just dirty again in no time

[@playingFTSE]

@@ThatFinanceShow might be worth trying a grout sealer on one of them - see how it holds up. Might make cleaning easier.

[@joseparcenary4706]

10:22 I'd be more annoyed about the way the cupboard on the left has a chunk taken out of the top in order to make away for that large white roof beam . I couldn't live having to look at that every day.

[@eattherich9215]

@3:39, interesting. At what stage were you aware of the problem, and was it not possible to make the opening smaller? However, I am not a fan of bi-fold doors, especially in kitchens since you track dirt straight into what should be a clean space. @4:39, I suggest going back to the company who installed them. That should not be a problem.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Could have made the opening smaller but we wanted maximum light and glass. Not really had the problem tracking dirt, surely it's the same on any door into a garden?

[@nk9070]

loved the pun about the glass being a 'paine' just me?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Ahhhh I didn’t even realise. I mean…err..yes…glad you spotted my witty pun 🙃

[@jacekkuc916]

Hi, how much could cost for bit smaller extension if work done by ourselves? (roof only done by professionals) thanks

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Hi Jacek, no idea sorry. I find most of the cost is in the 3rd fix products, kitchen, flooring, etc.

[@JonathanHernandez89]

Cabinets look great

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thanks Jonathan

[@ransin2500]

Hi, Great video. Could you tell me the name of the kitchen and where you purchased it from? Thanks.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Hi, thanks. The kitchen was from Howdens.

[@ransin2500]

Was it called the fairford in navy blue?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

@@ransin2500 ermmm rings a bell !

[@mrbritvic]

Did you do a contract with the builder before you started if so where did you get it -any advice would be appreciated-we are starting an extension in September

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Yes we did, builder sorted it.

[@mrbritvic]

@@ThatFinanceShow thanks

[@itaz6276]

Is that 80k including the kitchen? Ie appliances, cupboards, worktops etc?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Yep

[@angetodac]

no, its not all right to have a cold utility room...whole house should be equally warmed

[@iQinvesting]

jeez, has this been 12 months already?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

I know right! 🤯

[@iQinvesting]

@@ThatFinanceShow decent numbers at the end too, must be chuffed

[@loulabellaart]

My mum and dads house has a 4 panel bifold door, and they have a lead door

[@ghosttownlives]

3:29 its called a traffic door i have mine furthest left in a 6 leaf system, it doesnt need to be an odd numbers of leafs. mine is in a 1+5 formation.

[@TheCrystalMoth]

4 doors no problem, you have one door opening left and the other three go to the right that way you have a handle and no big doors.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Did consider this Daniel yes, and would have worked, I just didnt like the idea of doors hinged a different way. Pros and cons I guess.

[@DamienTalksMoney]

Who was concerned about the size of your Garage?! It is as big as my house.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Hahaha, people were shocked at the idea of losing all that garage space. You can come live in my garage anytime mate.

[@geometron3646]

considering monetary inflation was about 10% per annum then actually a valuation of 550k is in real term equivalent to about 454k two years' previously, so you're massively down... good job then that you're not moving soon. Odd that on "The Finance Show" you wouldn't take this into account?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

This series was all shot and released well before inflation went mad although of course inflation has an impact

[@LaMOi1]

So ……. This is all dandy. But…. Finding a decent and reliable builder, is a challenge in of itself. All the ones I’ve spoken to so far were arseholes… disinterested, rude… Customer service isn’t a thing apparently. 🤷🏻

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Yeah I know what you mean, they are hard to find. They do exist though!

[@taggthis]

In London or out of London?

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Out mate. I’m in Worcestershire

[@playingFTSE]

Always get rid of the designer radiators! They're terrible!

[@ThatFinanceShow]

They take forever to get warm!

[@1960gal]

All this shared radiator knowledge/experiences is much appreciated. We'd consider installing some decent electric heaters if we have our extension. Otherwise think might entail lots of work to run pipes (as currently wall mounted and nowhere near back walls of house) and maybe a new boiler?? 🤔 Used them to replace storage heaters in a rental we owned: excellent, very effective.

[@duntane3573]

Great series - shame about the pigeons

[@ThatFinanceShow]

🐦

[@bobbydowngrades]

Got me good with the thumbnail, made me click.

[@richardmckrell4899]

Less kitchen, more gym.

[@AndyHobson]

Those cupboards..... Don't look too bad mate

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thanks Andy! We are happy with them

[@iand6078]

You could have had a lead door on your bifold doors. A 3+1 would still have given you the slimmer doors your wanted. Something like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2OvgH9mgcmFmac

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Hi Ian, yes great point, I should have said this. We did look at that but didn’t like the door hinging the other way. All preferences I suppose

[@iand6078]

@@ThatFinanceShow I thought maybe your builder/architect was missing a trick. It's not all that common mind you, and often cheaper for them to sell you a 3 panel which obviously wasn't right for you. Beautiful though, I'm not at all jealous 😆

[@timlodge8267]

Tom sell your house for the money then move to Gloucestershi

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Hahaha what’s in Gloucestershire for me Timothy?

[@timlodge8267]

@@ThatFinanceShow Well I live in Stroud one of the best places to live 2021 voted by The Sunday Times.

[@ThatFinanceShow]

@@timlodge8267 lovely! I’ve never visited I don’t think

[@sharpz44]

great video ,least you have kept your humor

[@ThatFinanceShow]

It’s all I’ve got left, haven’t got any money left 😂

[@kennybhoy79]

No offence intended amigo ,every trade probably worked to the drawings relevant to them. It seems as if there was zero overall project management during construction ? Wanted extension,got design, got the builders in so sit back pay out & wait till the end 🎉 looks seriously over engineered tbh the work probably cost more than your house & still needs more😢

[@ThatFinanceShow]

Thanks for the comment but you've lost me a bit. Yes it was managed, and pretty well. What's over engineered? It certainly didn't cost more than the house and there's no more work needed.

[@jarohogan]

Builder?

[@fredableme809]

poor you

[@kennethatkins9250]

one would do it because you want the updated environment value/profit ! Is it your home or an investor ? before you start. Its all in the detail. quality builder, architect should advise on all the niggly bits .

[@babachalu1616]

Great video thank you ❤

[@ThatFinanceShow]

You are so welcome!