How Much Money I Make as a DOCTOR in Training

[@JohnThePA]

$13/hour is why I've said it numerous times that Residents are underpaid. I was rollin' $12/hour as an EMT and even that was wayyy too little. Respect Dr. C.

[@faithskoczylas6492]

Wow, watched your vids and didn’t know you were an EMT. My dream job during med school is being an EMT and possibly advancing to a Paramedic.

[@alcoholya]

good grief, I make more at Walmart.

[@Mayor-q6b]

Hi John!

[@hazor777]

Don't give a fuck who it is, NOBODY can LIVE on anything under $25/hr, right now, this day and age - FUCK ANY EMPLOYER WHO DISAGREES!!! - AND THAT AINT OUT OF THE LOWER END OF THE ECONOMIC SCALE !!!! STILL !!!!!!!

[@SS-iw2nq]

I'm an EMT in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Most EMT(Basic level) earn $13/hr on emergency ambulances. However the non -emergency passenger (patient) transport company I work for pays $14/hr. LPN's here earn around $28/hr and RN's earn around $32/hr. I definitely went into this profession knowing it's underpaid.😓 Cost of living in Oklahoma is 3 times cheaper than where I was born/raised Los Angeles. Being an EMT is a great entry job for aspiring LPN, RN, Paramedics, and doctors. Target here pays $15/hr, Costco $16/hr, McDonald's over $11/hr. Being able to help patients in their darkest hours (hospice) however is priceless.

[@c.shevak8910]

And now the cabinet behind him with a bunch of alcohol makes sense

[@natividad7147]

Ever since I found his videos that's all I stare at when I watch them 👁️👄👁️

[@TheJwebb7]

Counterintuitive: A medical doctor promoting alcohol (degrading the internal organs).

[@susanh6877]

LOL! I'm glad someone finally mentioned it. That is a pretty impressive potion cabinet which doesn't come cheap. However, he deserves a sip once in a while with those crazy challenges. 😊

[@Tonixxy]

@@TheJwebb7 lol you would be surprised how many drink/smoke/use substances

[@michaelargenta3856]

@@TheJwebb7 baaahhhhhhhh -

[@bryanolshefsky9207]

You're legit man, thanks for making these videos and breaking down what it takes to become a full fledged doctor. Your honesty is definitely appreciated.

[@alec5545]

In my opinion as a surgery PA, being on call is 100% time spent working. Even if you're sleeping, eating, or relaxing on call you have to be mentally and physically prepared to answer to an emergency. On call compensation can always be better IMO because you're literally a slave to the system while you're on. Major kudos for you taking all that time on call.

[@a.k.7116]

"SLAVE TO THE SYSTEM." You said s mouthful.

[@whatitisnt.]

Nobody on this earth should work 12 hours a day

[@josegonzalez-hz9sr]

It’s crazy I’m a high school drop out with out GED and taught myself how to weld and now I make 187,000 a year in my 2 year being a welder without collage depth. And I still tell my mom this was the best decision I’ve took.

[@jaym5171]

Damn thats amazing bro i wanna get into welding as a side job but i dont know how to start

[@Day-xp1eg]

Good for you

[@FlywithMikey96]

I’m for the trades. But “college depth” killed me 💀

[@dr.lindsaymarie]

Sounds like you managed your money well despite the high cost of living. I did my residency in Florida where there is no state income tax. I must say that helped me a lot.

[@michaelargenta3856]

hey cutie pie --- r u single darling .???

[@dr.lindsaymarie]

@@michaelargenta3856 yes

[@BookieTech]

Thank you for being so open on a private & personal topic like this. I never asked for a video like this because it's none of my buisness...but it was very interesting i have to admit! Thanks again.

[@robertvanaria3026]

Hey doc. I'm headed to medical school next year in NJ and just wanted to say you've inspired me a bunch. I watch your videos pretty consistently so that I have a better understanding of the field once I dive in. Keep up the good work man, you're appreciated.

[@ivan4599]

Good luck man!

[@robertvanaria3026]

@@ivan4599 thank you 🙏🏼

[@Daniel-yh6bd]

How’s school goin big dog

[@TseeDu23]

*Spends 12 years in rigorous school and training* *Goes deeply in debt* dOcToRs GeT pAiD tOo MuCh

[@DrCellini]

This

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

It’s so annoying to hear 🤦🏼‍♂️ glad to see the irony haha

[@mercedesbruce968]

Also they literally keep you alive so I think they def deserve it

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

@@mercedesbruce968 won’t argue there ;)

[@Locopueblo]

No one said that. Relax. We don’t talk about doctors at all. About as much as we talk about the mailman

[@lindsaywanserski6756]

This is super interesting - thanks for sharing and being real about it!!! Most videos like this are super vague. 👏🏼

[@DrCellini]

I try to keep it real!

[@Bcass821]

Thanks for being so transparent and actually telling us your salary. So many people beat around the bush and give ranges

[@MSupreme7]

I appreciate the honesty so much. I just graduated with my BA in finance... now I'm a wealth management intern at Morgan Stanley. Everyone around me is like woo hoo! wall street investment bank yay! ... But i need to earn my stripes at the bank first and as an intern I'm only making $15 an hour. 4 years of education, 8k in debt. So this video is the pick me up i needed. Thank you, Dr.

[@user-vi1ge6rt8e]

He said $4,000 a month wasn’t bad!!! That’s brutal!!!! Especially going to school for a doctor and being in debt as much as a highly luxury house price in AZ!! I make 4,000 a month being a dental assistant!! That’s crazy!!!

[@toshjr22]

You forgot to add in the part where your wife is a PA. That definitely relieves some financial stress off of you.

[@vedangsinghal3038]

I would assume so

[@DrCellini]

1000000%

[@EdD-ym6le]

Haha I thought the same . My guess is soon after doc here is done she will be starting a new career of large scale baby making .

[@purplepoppy07]

@@EdD-ym6le what makes you say that? PA’s make six figures.

[@jg1296]

:)

[@lightseeker134]

Great video! My boyfriend is a specialist physician who has been in private practice for 15 years. Like you, his training was long and arduous and he made considerable sacrifices to be in medicine. I remember him saying that when he factors in expenses, taxes and overhead his take home pay isn't a true reflection of what he should be earning in terms of the years spent in college, training and his level of expertise in his field. Interestingly, he said that a career in trades or as a nurse (factoring in seniority and overtime pay) pays surprisingly close to his net income. He is passionate about his work but he made considerable sacrifices in terms of time, money and various other lost opportunities to get where he is. It doesn't seem to be a wise choice to enter into this career without a passion for medicine or just for the title, prestige or "money". That said, if someone has the aptitude and passion for medicine and he or she instead chooses to work in the trades because the money is fairly comparable that's a loss too.

[@billr5842]

While a Nurse could make a ton of money with overtime, it is a very demanding and grueling job. The main thing is happiness and the money will come if you're savvy with finances/investing.

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

I always tell people not to even think about medicine if money is your only goal. It’s definitely a job of passion

[@occupytosavetheworld]

@@billr5842 nah man I'm a nurse, I make a decent income.. but medicine is where its at, I'm going for it

[@billr5842]

@@occupytosavetheworld do it! I am planning on leaving nursing too but definitely would never consider medicine. For me, the whole healthcare system is getting worse and becoming a Dr. is not what it used to be

[@pikusarker1359]

C B how much your boyfriend earns now as a physician?

[@shootingstars7135]

I can see the pain in his eyes then he speaks about how much he gets paid vs how much he owes 🤧😂

[@DrCellini]

Pain is real

[@jaymeeification]

@@DrCellini why not PA school?

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

It definitely cuts deep whenever I think about it hahaha

[@randomguy1635]

​@@jaymeeification PA stands for Physician Assistant. You're an assistant to a physician. The answer is in the title. PAs are very important for every healthcare team, but the doctor will always be the lead. I always wonder why people don't ask PAs: why not MD school? I can tell you why though, because it's hard.

[@ToddBeckerPhoto]

@@DrCellini wifes a psychologist and is at 450k of student loan debt. Could be worse, thank god for public service loan forgiveness.

[@Jadonk01]

I honestly can’t imagine wanting to be in NYC for residency or even just as a physician in general when you can fare off so much better pretty much everywhere else in the country. Kudos to you, idk how you did it.

[@MrJohnkristi]

Interest doesn’t sleep but is constantly hungry!!!!!

[@kevinweiss1278]

Just something else to add: you actually made a math mistake for the 80 hour work weeks making $1,051 coming out to $13.13 an hour. If you factor overtime compensation at 1.5 times hourly starting after 40 hours, you would actually be making a $10.51 an hour wage. So even less

[@robertdayton6051]

Good catch, I came to comment the same thing.

[@locumjobsonline]

Regardless of the money, it's clear that you do this because you love to help people. Thanks, Dr. Cellini! Love the video, it's very informative for upcoming doctors!

[@marklevan6546]

Not all doctors are noble. Corrupt ones killed both my parents. Inept, uncaring.

[@marklevan6546]

And you make that up in a couple of years. No pity here. Most doctors aren’t noble. 700,000 people a year die from doctors frigging up.I despise doctors.,Well then move.

[@marklevan6546]

But you always know that once your residency is over, you’ll have it made.,You can even harm people and still get rich

[@marklevan6546]

Maybe he does, many don’t

[@marklevan6546]

Well, you should have been a surgeon

[@jecca2744]

My daughter told me the other day did you see Dr. Cellini in a yacht with a bunch of naked ladies. I was so surprised and I said” omg Dr. Cellini is married and I thought he was a descent man” turns out she confused Dr. Cellini with Dr. mike. Lol

[@saintsam7397]

Way to call Dr. Mike single and indecent.

[@lackadaisicalllama]

A+ for the indirect slight

[@jecca2744]

@@saintsam7397 you can be single and decent

[@InternetGirl1093]

🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelargenta3856]

I think you daughter is what we call Gold digger

[@joykunath4528]

Thnks doc. I am in shock, nauseated. I never knew residents were paid so little amd the road was so long, I thought a residency would be max 4 years. I have worked with doctors for 30 years and from the get go I have been respectful of doctors time. I get to the point. I have gathered my info before hand, assuming what the doc may ask . I have never asked a doc a personal question, go see my own hy appt. I listen and learn. I show respect thru my words and tone with their patients. I am glad. Now I know more about why. I have always assumed the road was oblong and hard, but wow! Thanks for sharing. It changes nothing but confirms my respect.

[@heyitsnayaa6736]

Your videos are very educational & it’s great to know the grass isn’t always greener . (Gotta work for it) I think the best move you made was move back to New York. Just don’t over exhaust yourself and keep those videos coming.

[@pratibhaverma4900]

I found your channel pretty interesting. I am an RN and dated a PGY-2 med-peds Resident. I already knew how much they make and the hours they work in the hospital. Residency is hard no doubt

[@ERdoctorMike]

It's nice for a doc to be transparent about money. Thanks!

[@RuddyTabot]

The “I feel like a rapper😂🤣 stacks on stacks”🤣😂

[@Greenbearls]

NYC is expensive to live in he says. Driving through (without stopping) is expensive. I’m a truck driver and paying $95 for the GWB is just insane. It’s not even well maintained.

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

Dude I am LITERALLY finishing editing this exact same video to publish today 😂 oh well, yours already has the views in a few minutes that mine will get in a week hahaha

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

@Jamie Byford you’re awesome Jamie ❤️ I didn’t mean for this to be a plug haha it was just ironic. The alert popped up over my editing software of his video which is exactly what I’m editing hahaha. He’s making the big fellow dollars these days though 😜 so you can see how us little residents make out. Really appreciate it again though!

[@DrCellini]

Great minds think alike!

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

@@DrCellini you crushed it man! I think you were too generous on your 80 hour work week as a surgical intern though!! Anyone who’s ever had to carry a pager knows when you’re home you’re not off. Every beep like sound sends you into a panic.. if you’re not sleeping you’re probably trying to read a journal for journal club or make a presentation you’ve known about for weeks that’s due tomorrow at 5am haha

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

@Jamie Byford can’t tell you how much I appreciate that!

[@oldfort14]

Wow, you guys definitely deserve more!!! Thank you for all you do!

[@baylorwiggins9781]

I like the new topics of videos how they’re a bit informative for future docs. But vlogs will always be the OG staple of the channel ( 7 days on call) 😍

[@rodrigmd4202]

You should have added in how much you have to pay back in loans each month. Because raises your cost of living too.

[@daniellec1721]

Can you do more videos on the DO route? There is such a stigma and I feel that you have such a voice that you can help end it! The stigma is ridiculous but i believe the more physicians talk about it, the less it’ll be

[@mememachine25dank37]

The stigma really only exists online. I’ve spent lots of time in hospitals working with both MDs and DOs and have seen no instances of stigma. I have seen people online say some stuff but that’s usually out of ego rather than the work the actual field offers. Patients in my experience never asked about DO or MD differences to any of the docs I work with either. A doctor in a amazing residency program like dr Cellini most likely has only received praises for the work he does so idk if he will have significant experiences of stigma

[@LunarStarFox]

That example as a first year residency it’s a real eye opener. I work as a nurse in LA, this is my second year of being a nurse and I make about $4,600 a month after taxes. That is absolutely crazy that my paycheck is a little more than yours! You did way more school work/training and have more responsibilities than I do yet the gap is not large and in favor of the nurse. Also the breakdown of how much per-hour difference is crazy too!!! Training doctors work WAY more hours than a full time nurse and are getting the same paycheck

[@beenthereworethat1603]

Oh hun no! Friends of mine make 4600 - 5k right now in a week post Covid! Do travel nursing if you can

[@superswag3252]

He will get tons of money when he finishes training. Don't worry

[@Quilter1970]

Can you tell us about your wife’s school debt vs what she made/makes?

[@Headphone-Heroes]

0 debt for probably just under 200k, it's a joke

[@briaunnaaleece7514]

0 debt? No. PA schools typically charge around $80,000 or a little bit less. You take loans for that which have super high interest rates. PA’s are typically in a lot of debt as well, but not $200k worth of debt! And they make quite a bit of money, some making more that 200k per year depending on location and specialty.

[@occupytosavetheworld]

@@Headphone-Heroes how exactly is that a joke?

[@Headphone-Heroes]

@@occupytosavetheworld Because it's 6 years education with minimal debt for such a large salary. Meanwhile Doctors go through 11 years minimum of education and their resident salary is abysmal up until residency is finished also their working hours are atrocious during this period. Oh plus they have 400k+ debt hanging over them.

[@xunyangful]

You will be rewarded greatly, the journey is super tough. Bravo to you and your wife.

[@jenniferbogoslofski4615]

Thank you for all you do. You deserve higher salary. The world needs more people like you. Doctors are hardworking life savers.

[@parker3138]

Can you do a follow-up video on how much you expect your salary to be in 5 months once you’re an attending? I know there are reports all over the internet about physician salaries, but I sometimes wonder if those adequately reflect the reality. Thanks!

[@skylar6818]

Thank you so much for being so honest.

[@lalazooms23]

I give you mad props because even though the pay isn’t what a doctor should be making you do have to remember that it’s not about the money. You slave away to help people. Our first responders are heroes everyday. Pandemic or not!

[@fatimahalsalman3844]

I get paid more working at Target😮

[@WoodcraftBySuman]

Short answer: not enough. Not even enough as a junior attending. You have to LOVE medicine. Otherwise, it is much easier to go elsewhere and work half as much while making twice as much.

[@chrishernandez295]

“I feel like a rapper stacks on stacks”😂👍

[@Jesus-dz7fh]

😂😂

[@salmed3721]

How about a video of how to best pay off loans after med school?!?! 👀 👀 👀

[@user-vm4he3gk3c]

live frugally....when u see the 6 figure check dont splurge think about your money from a financial standpoint and you can easily pay it off in a couple years depending on your income

[@goldy4631]

For all you young cats out there, you should try the military route. My undergrads being fully paid for and I’m going to be enrolling in HPSP. Which pays you to be a doctor while in medical school and more during residency through the military or armed forces 🤙🏾😅

[@occupytosavetheworld]

how old can you be before you're no longer considered a young cat

[@matthew4725]

So, while in residency, do you not have to start paying off the loan debt? Is that just piling up interest, and you're waiting until you're an attending before you tackle that? Or maybe hoping to find a practice with at least some loan forgiveness as part of the deal?

[@shanemn123]

I respect you and all medical personnel that go so many years through medical school for a degree and work your school debt off.. When I was in High School I wasn't sure if I wanted to go to school and have debt or start working.. I've had $10k in debt from dropping out of school and now live debt free making roughly $54k a year learning a simple trade that I didn't have to pay to learn I got paid kind of like your residency but we call it apprenticeship. Nice content

[@stemmlsi]

Just curious; are there no bonuses for overtime or call shifts in the US? In Germany, every hour that exceeds 40-42 hrs/week has to be compensated (although some employers might handle this a bit differently/illegally)

[@DrCellini]

Zero bonuses or overtime pay, unfortunately

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

Not one cent

[@jessicamiller5536]

In the US only hourly employees are required to be paid overtime for working more than 40 hours

[@roronoazorro5630]

@@DrCellini That‘s fked up .. Some Kind of modern slavery .. Doctors in Germany still Complaining but I think thats because of the salary After residency which is still very low in Comparison to the US and so they don’t see the Payoff like you do :)

[@DrAdamHotchkiss]

@@jessicamiller5536 not when it comes to medical residency. Here are our rules “Residents could work a maximum of 24 hours with 4 hours for transition time and education. Residents could work a maximum of 80 hours per week averaged over 4 weeks, must have one day off in 7, and must have at least 8 hours off between shifts.” And those are VERY LOOSELY enforced. No resident speaks up about working over 80 hours etc. And no 24 hour shift is only 24 hours.

[@shahda5894]

Thank you for confirming that not choosing medicine was a good choice for me. So much respect for you, doc.

[@Julie.SandhuMD]

If it was only for the money, you made the right decision

[@marilynhughey1231]

So with all this debt and hard work years coming to an end soon, how is the future looking Dr. Cellini? Job hunting? Leaving New York? Just came from a 3 month post op appointment with my orthopedic spine surgeon. Just have to say I am so glad that he made the commitment to study and train. Without his skill I'd still be in agonizing and unrelenting pain.

[@ToddBeckerPhoto]

5 months and pay range is 200-500k? I bet those 5 months are the longest 5 months of your life. I hope you do another one about what income is like as first year fully trained Dr and how it progresses from there.

[@UALITHEGREAT]

Hey Doctor. You didn’t mention what will be your expected salary once you become a fully autonomous attende doctor as intervention radiologist

[@alphaspartan]

Serious question Dr. Cellini. At the end of the video you mentioned there are plenty of jobs that pay more than being a doctor when you consider the hours of training involved. I'm just curious what jobs you think those are? I've heard other doctors say "wallstreet banker, CEO, etc" but those aren't the easiest jobs to come by... 🤣 What am I missing here? I 100% agree becoming an attending is hard and requires sacrifice but I feel like it's even harder to become a CEO or wallstreet banker considering there's probably less job openings for those positions. If you put someone with the aptitude to work hard enough to become a CEO through med school, that's probably going to be one of the 1% doctors that creates a new surgical technique or opens a bunch of practices and makes millions (per year).

[@zaramilton1480]

I can't speak for America, but as an Australian I do know the trades get paid pretty well. For example, an average trade takes about 4-5 years to complete and can range from AU$70,000+ annually. The only differences I can see between a trades person and a person who completes a uni degree, is that a trades person gets paid roughly AU$13-18hr to show up to work and learn. In Australia, at least at my dad's workshop, the employer pays for the 'degree', while a person who goes to university has to pay for their degree. Trades can charge anywhere from AU$50-$100hr, plasters, plumbers, welders etc. My friends boyfriend has just finished his trade and is now two years into being a fully certified plumber and earns AU$80hr, while I don't know the hours he works we can just assume he works a 'normal' 9am-5pm job. 8x80 = 640x = 3,200x52 = AU$166,400 before tax [we tax about a third of a persons wage (don't quote me, I'm pretty sure that's what it ends up being) so his yearly income would be on roughly AU$124,800]. Plus this hourly rate can increase depending if he chooses to be on-call, work overtime, or works weekends. Now, this is in an average city/town in Australia, there's obviously going to be differences depending on experiences and availability in the location. But the trades can basically charge what they want as we seem to be in a shortage of trades people. This ended up being longer then I anticipated 😅but I hope it helps!

[@alphaspartan]

@@zaramilton1480 no don't apologise this is actually really informative, thank you.

[@sheilachan100]

new subbie (current M3) here absolutely obsessed with your videos!! you're my new favorite doctor youtuber! you make the most fire content and are so real. keep doing what you're doing!!!

[@tonyakruid2095]

I’ve always wanted to know, is it safe to have a doctor taking care of you that has been up for days... according to research sleep deprivation is just as bad as drinking and driving

[@ManleyClan]

Random (absolutely nothing to do with medicine): I recall one of your videos showed your desk having capability to be raised and lowered electrically. Would you please plug it by advising brand, model, etc.? Thank you.

[@frankiesaidrelax]

Wow def reason why only the Doctors that have thick skin get by because most people think you instantly make a ton of money instantly

[@PeteNalty63]

Thank you for your your service to humanity Dr.

[@ambiaa5348]

Thank you! This was very informative 👏

[@shamrockgirl6595]

Very interesting 👌 Thank you for being so open.

[@marcresasco]

I am an MD-2 and I am enjoying these videos. The road to medicine is definitely not an easy one. Goal is to be a Board Certified Dermatologist. I do also agree with what you say about the lifestyle convenience living in NYC.

[@diksharawat6490]

I'm always thinking about this... And if I said that I fond....to know but your information and all advises are always amazing..! 😊

[@janiceharris5475]

As a NC resident, if you practice in Raleigh/Durham, Charlotte, Winston Salem, Greenville where the major teaching hospitals are located, you're in trouble. These areas are so built up that rent is comparable to living in New York, Miami, Los Angeles. I If you're working long hours, a cheaper rural home gets old quick.

[@onefish392]

Awesome video, keep up the great work!!

[@jaydomthethethe8701]

Just discovered your channel! Thanks for sharing really inspiring!!

[@mark62891]

My medical internship (not MD) charged me $22,000 for 6 months of 40-60 hours of work. They said "just save 6 months of expenses while you're a Grad Student".

[@Loveduhmusic]

Honest and straight to the point with facts. Where will you go next after residency?

[@msbewhatever]

I wish I was only in 261,000 in debt. Dental school is so much more expensive. At the end of 4years, as a NYC dental graduate I will be 400,000 in debt with out factoring the interest rate 🥺

[@llexcusesll7933]

omg..... that should be illegal

[@anassheikhali1454]

I thought being pilot was bad because how low we are paid at the beginning. Even though we go to school for about six to seven years. Now I feel like doctors are in worse situation than us pilots. Hey at the end of the day we will make some good money and make a lot of people happy by flying them or working on their medical problems.

[@82spiders]

I'm crying for you. After working 7 tears as an obstetrician, a friend founded and financed a children's hospital in Manila.

[@oliviaspencer6753]

Appreciate the transparency!

[@mitchellwasmus435]

I’m 16 but this is the career I want in my future I got my first job last month and have been doing really well I put 1k into savings already so throughout college I can invest it in a cd was wondering if you think Texas is a good place to practice ? I know the living is super good

[@AvadaKedavra4172]

Open your own stock portfolio and take to owning Stock ETF's as a means to accrue easy passive investment income. Repeatedly fill your portfolio with however much you can since the dollars you have right now are going to be worth tons years and years down the line; you'll also be ahead of other doctors and other peeps in terms of retirement by your mid-20s. Texas is a good area to be in especially since its med schools are good in quality and some of the cheapest in the country. You'll have a manageable debt to income ratio if you stay there, since the cost of living is also SIZABLY down for that area.

[@mitchellwasmus435]

@@AvadaKedavra4172 yeah that’s my thinking I was gonna open a cd just so it could rollover and then once I’m making the 200- whatever k I make I’ll invest in relestate om all about passive income

[@yarnmaniacs8936]

Really enjoy the educational value of your videos!

[@tracykrol83]

I love watching your channel I'm a forensic nurse 3-4 yrs for my BSN then earning my MSN adds two more years of study I toughed it out ! And I currently am in Massachusetts ! Atlanta and Memphis /Mississippi of course u make less as the housing is so cheap ... I wouldn't change where I am in my career field but there was those days when I wanted to scream my head of . Very inspired by your channel @Dr. Cellini

[@rachelt2482]

Good morning Dr Cellini! :) Very interesting to hear about the diff btwn other locations vs NYC. Thanks!

[@CDaeda]

I am an engineer. My salary is high while working but most employers will not keep a person for more than 3 to 6 months. Work gets done then out the door. Steady work not available. Employment gaps can be long.

[@rosem5361]

I really do commend doctors. So much schooling, the debt. My God. The DEBT!! Doctors are notorious for making bad financial decisions and living beyond their means. I hope the new generations learn to deal with this and understand it is not a salary problem...it is a ‘them’ problem.

[@charlottesandor5545]

Another great video! Have you started paying towards your loan yet? I’ve heard the interest accumulates pretty high if someone waits until they finish their residency before starting the payments.

[@iamdanyboy1]

I saw a video showing it's more comfortable for residents to pay off their loans later when they start working full time unless they are working in internal med, Paeds or Family Medicine.

[@stephen.]

I really wish they didn’t add interest on federal student loans

[@sisterstaketoo1981]

Facts! Before they paused interest I paid timely payments for two - three years but every year the principle amount was increasing the loan amount was so bloated that $300 a month didn’t cover anything

[@landrewmackinnon4888]

Radiologist at my hospital in Canada start at $650k apparently. I imagine this is low compared to the USA

[@darlenekovalick2198]

Love your channel and your topics❤️

[@upchur1]

9:09 the cost of living in NC wasn't that much lower, that's the myth that NC wants to believe they have. But that is such a load of horse crap that the state wants to to promote to people moving to NC. ...NC native '63

[@anglicantian]

This is interesting to see and compare across countries (I´m a danish physician). The biggest difference of course being tuition fee - education is free in Denmark (actually the student gets paid), so you have to fuck up royally to be in debt after university. Med school is 6 years dedicated to only medicine, anatomy and physiology etc. (No liberal arts at all). The salary starting out is pretty comparable to yours. Though the salary is standardized all over Denmark, and costs of housing are much higher in the capital than elsewhere. I personally live in the province and pay 450 dollars for a 40 sq-metre (420 sq-foot) apartment - rented through the hospiral. Our hourly wages are higher at first, since we´re working 37 hours a week in residency. Not 80 :O On the other hand, getting to 250,000 dollars a year as a Danish doctor is quite rare, unless you own a private clinic. It´s much more common in the US for a specialist to pull that, from what I hear. And obviously tax rates are higher (helps pay for those who are going through university). All things put together - I don´t think I´d want to trade places :D But the culture, attitudes and values are quite different between continents and countries.

[@johnj4446]

There are just so many easier and more life friendly ways to make more money it’s insane. I like how you realize that. Feel sorry for the kids in it just for the $

[@sr9tc]

Why does no one calculate lost income for 8yrs of school. While others are earning/investing while youre studying, you are losing tons of both cash in hand and potential income from investing. After 8 yrs of school, its the $241k plus another $400k in lost wages. Also calculate the financing of basic living costs that you dont pay when you work and pay living costs as they come. Your student loans are what..5% which means your basic living expenses are that much more expensive than your friends who went to work. Id say youre closer to $1M negative. Also, if youve got the brains and drive to go to med school, chances are you would be making way more than the $50k i estimated per year lost income. You’d probably climb the ladder of a big corp or grow a small business. So you’d probably be way more negative than i estimated.

[@jeremygirard3078]

I still don't understand how the debt is that little. I went to a small state college for which I was fortunate enough to live out of my parents garage and pay for school without any loans. However, the estimated cost for my medical school is nearly $500k.

[@commissioner4805]

You don’t have to have debt if you go to Military and do the HPSP program.👍🏾😉

[@toriwilliams5138]

Add in medical Mal insurance = $15,000 - $80,000 depending on specialty a YEAR!

[@ConspiciousCultist]

Thanks for doing it. It's rude to ask, but between living in New York and possible debt one would accrue studying to be a doctor I would be lying if I wasn't curious as well.

[@TheeMrsChampion]

Thank you for giving us the tea on your salary Dr. C! You’re approaching the end of the tunnel now. The light is so bright 😁.

[@jakkuwolfinsomnia8058]

$70,000 sounds good when you hear it. But then coming from the UK, after taxes etc it’s probably no different than a British resident’s £32,500 a year. Only difference is, Americans education fees are extortionately high. In the UK, Brits get a student loan that they do not have to pay back and its £9,000 per year so after 5 years it’s £45,000 but you don’t have to pay it back and you only pay 9% of the difference between your salary and £25,525

[@maya-vf8zd]

It's really upsetting how little doctors make. I live comfortably kinda. With stupid job packing milk. Does little to save lives. Thank you for your life choices.😇😇😇

[@maya-vf8zd]

@jean-luc paradis yes it is 😊

[@godzillanismo4892]

How much alcohol do you drink as a doctor? Dr Cellini: Yes

[@supremeetnel7707]

Training is stressful. He’s gotta cope

[@E3323-h1t]

Ai non wrong witdat

[@godzillanismo4892]

@@supremeetnel7707 my doctor said i shouldn't drink its not a wise medical decision apparently there is something Cellini knows that he dont

[@KeilaC22]

Thanks for keeping it real

[@EA-jw3xw]

How does the salary progress after residency? As a resident (PGY3) in Norway (plastic surgery), I make a little over 120 000 USD pr year. I work on average 47 hr weeks and have in total around 30 k (USD) in student loans… The costs of living and tax levels here are probably comparable to NYC.

[@roronoazorro5630]

Nice Video Dude .. but what about after residency .. are there big differences between physicians, surgeons, ophtalmogist etc. .. I would love to see a Video about that :)

[@Vwk9yu]

Hi Dr. Cellini, have you begun paying your med school debt? How long will it take you to pay it off? Thank you for the great informative video!

[@DrCellini]

Yep, pay it every month

[@Carol6662]

A student currently in North Carolina and working on a residency match this season here...Just received an interview invite from a hospital in NYC.....Was scratching my head trying to figure out if I want to rank them lower on my list because of the cost of living there lol..... Thanks for the information.

[@85Onne]

I live in Europe and in my country residents salary is always the same, it does'nt matter at which hospital you work or what year you are. It's because residency is goverment funded, I think it's about 2000 euros a month. All extra work- if you are on call, doing extra hours etc then that is of course covered by your hospital.

[@Djemesar007]

In eastern europe (Bulgaria) the salary for resident is 400 euro (after taxes, government funded) and around 700 euro (Romania) per month. Serbia and other Balcan countries the salaries are quite the same. Its a total joke to even offer such a wage when you have put so much work, money and stress. You have given your best youth years in studying, stressing out, money and you will have to constantly study to keep up with modern studies... because of what? Getting 2,3k euros at the age of 40,50... Medical profession is damn not worth it in the 21st century unless your father or mother owns a damn private hospital. Period.

[@85Onne]

@@Djemesar007 I live in eastern/nothern Europe- Estonia. But I know we have way better salarys compered to other eastern european countries.

[@GhostPepperMeg]

You’re def working when you’re on call but not at the hospital per se. you can’t just go do whatever you want. You’re confined to being close to the hospital, not going out for a night on the town etc.

[@velazquez773]

Single mom here: I've wanted to be a Radiologist for as long as I can remember but I may just have to stop at being a sonographer 🥺

[@RedRaiderLobo20]

If you want it, go for it! There was a dude who was 51 in my med school class. One of the radiology residents I worked with was in her 40s.

[@briaunnaaleece7514]

This is why I’ve decided to go to PA instead of MD. This just isn’t realistic for me. As an undergrad, I make $35 per hour in my current role at 20 years old. I have a passion for medicine, but I’d much rather make a salary of $120,000-165,000 at 23 after my masters of medical science.