How Multiple Mythologies Exist in God of War FINALLY REVEALED | God of War Theory

[@rtxmeatlug1428]

Author of the original blog here. Thanks for the shout out and for spreading my explanation on this subject to a large audience that your channel has. I really appreciate it. Also, I think you forgot to mention this: Kratos in GoW Ragnarok talks about how the threads of fate in the Greek Pantheon spanned ALL life and time. This again confirms beyond doubt that the mythological pantheons are alternate/parallel realities with their own Space-Time in a "greater" universe.

[@destruidordemundosghostofspart]

I found your post very informative

[@abdbay]

🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@alexcrock7942]

So kratos is multiversal like all the gods ,titans ,giants ,primordials and mythological beings

[@Nexuswalnut33]

Hey man i just wanted to say that you missed this statement from Matt Sophos wich Richard Gaubert agreed on here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooKooJWfedd9bqMsi=k3N6b1hXgi2igY5z -36:50 He confirms that if you are in Scandinavia that land will become the earth wich includes every land and continent, like Greece and Egypt and when you are in Greece it will work the same since the Greek world has an edge... Before y'know before it got destroyed and the faith for Greek Mythology died reducing it to a normal country.

[@camgeorge6222]

​@destruidordemundosghostofspart while I can see ur a gow fan this will be upsetting to yall but chances are these are pocket dimensions/ realms on earth as Cory said they are separate from geography. W

[@Elithelion]

It's called a pen and artistic freedom...

[@redskull378]

Doesn't matter.It gotta make sense.

[@Dehydratedjoe]

Watching gow lore at 2:30 am goes hard af 😂

[@jsmaelsartor595]

This honestly makes sense and differently to a lot of people who doesn't believe to this, I believe this video is saying facts because 1 it's all about a fiction verse with the magic and gods, 2 this explanation completely makes sense and follow what the lore, the games and what cory barlog said so good job man 💪🏻

[@Lupinemancer87]

I always just assumed that it was like our solar system, with each planet representing it's own mytholgical world.

[@hououinkyouma3864]

It's not. Cory mentioned that Kratos physically travelled to the Norse land

[@Nexuswalnut33]

Probably one of the best explaintion of the cosmology. Some people really just stops doing research after realising that they exist on the same planet and that it's "possible" to traverse by boat.

[@hououinkyouma3864]

Yeah, that kinda happens when multiple developers, and the director himself mentions that it is the same planet

[@Nexuswalnut33]

@@hououinkyouma3864 i'm not sure if you are saying that the cosmology is just a planet. Or that you are agreeing that some people over simplify or straight up twist and cut out context of the dev/writer's statements.

[@MysticMonty]

you really put this into perspetive to me and I'm so grateful. thank you yet again Abd

[@abdbay]

My pleasure!

[@lastwill3557]

Very well put. I agree with most of the logic of it, credits to the blog creator of course.

[@villanousvic323]

I remember making a comment pointing to this as the possibility awhile back, glad I'm not the only one

[@AzzMonkeysauce03]

Maybe it’s like a lovecraftin type beat

[@Masterchiefandcommandershepard]

The Earth in the GOW universe is essentially a mini WARP World, at least at that time.

[@abdbay]

Yup!!

[@aahwansinghchauhan8210]

I 100% agree! I cannot stress this fact enough!

[@abdbay]

💯

[@Squeam9750]

​@@abdbay Hey what do you use for your background music out of curiosity

[@raizoxp22]

The major proper question always popped in my mind..... Great explanation.

[@abdbay]

Awesome, thank you!

[@anthonyhernandez7799]

The biggest flaw in this theory is how physical travel across the world and different mythologies works. Because how can you travel to a different region and a different mythology if that whole earth is that one mythology. And it has been done by Kratos, Kratos physically traveled from one mythology to another. The god of war comic fallen god shows as much. (Edit): Also in god of war: chains of Olympus. The Persian king was able to travel to Greece and invade it, bringing creatures and spirits from him mythology. And it’s implied that he simply marched his way there. Kratos literally gets a weapon in the form of djinn. So travel by conventional sea or foot is definitely valid. No mystical means needed.

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

Author of the original blog here. Kindly watch this video from 17:21. GoW doesn't have a multiverse in the conventional sense. It's unique. The "greater" GoW earth is just like our earth. However, within every country or continent, lies a cosmology with a distinct creation story and a pantheon of deities (based on the prominent belief system there). This is how all the mythologies co-exist at once despite contradictions, stretching from the beginning to the end of time, separated by earthly geography. Think of the "bigger on the inside" trope, similar to Hermione's beaded hand bag or Doraemon's 4-D pocket. You physically traverse from Greece to Scandinavia, which looks normal sized from the outside, but as soon as you enter it, there's an entire cosmos within with its own creation story and pantheon of deities. Hope that answers your query.

[@camgeorge6222]

​@rtxmeatlug3149 sounds like on universe with a bunch h of pocket dimensions earth has a bunch of pocket dimensions which is each realm.

[@Th5Relaxing]

Great video i was really wondering about this topic now i kinda understand.

[@brogamestivi7933]

bruh you're amazing, your "crazy theory" is TRUTH to me

[@Nexuswalnut33]

This isn't a theory. This is literally near the actual truth.

[@jordansimeonov1501]

Would people call him ghost of sparta without Kratos getting upset, he should overcome that too

[@emrepalapi]

So Kratos didnt save the world from the pantheons he just destroyed it, problem solved 😂

[@tranviet5992]

this is so.....amazing

[@derekhogan9685]

They could’ve just said that each pantheon was its own world and made this so much easier.

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

Author of the original blog here. They did several times, actually. Cory and Matt did on Twitter as well as Insta, the character Mimir did in the 2018 game, Kratos did in GoW: Ragnarok, and several promotional posts for the 2018 game did the same too.

[@alliii835]

@@rtxmeatlug3149what about the egyptian pantheon, did kratos not get there by boat? In the fallen god comic

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

​@@alliii835 Kindly watch this video from 17:21. GoW doesn't have a multiverse in the conventional sense. It's unique. The "greater" GoW earth is just like our earth. However, within every country or continent, lies a cosmology with a distinct creation story and a pantheon of deities (based on the prominent belief system there). This is how all the mythologies co-exist at once despite contradictions, stretching from the beginning to the end of time, separated by earthly geography. Think of the "bigger on the inside" trope, similar to Hermione's beaded hand bag or Doraemon's 4-D pocket. You physically traverse from Greece to Scandinavia, which looks normal sized from the outside, but as soon as you enter it, there's an entire cosmos within with its own creation story and pantheon of deities. This should explain how Kratos ended up in Egypt's Egyptian pantheon after leaving Greece's Greek pantheon. Hope that answers your query.

[@alliii835]

@@rtxmeatlug3149 i get that, but then that just means anyone can traverse the pantheons right? Unless kratos for some reason got there because the greek world had “died”. Like if thor just flew far enough, he’d end up in egypt as well, would another geographical region be available for travel without necessarily leaving the pantheon?

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

@@alliii835 Kratos stumbled across Egypt because Greece died, so its magical boundaries faded. He ended up in Scandinavia due to 2 magical wolves dragging him there, as implied by him in the primary canon Norse novel. Tyr used the Unity Stone to translocate between geographical regions on the "greater" GoW earth instantaneously. The Persian King that arrived in Greece with his army was either from the Greek Pantheon's version of Persia, or the Persian pantheon itself. In the latter case, we don't know how he traversed from Persia to Greece. But it's quite likely that Persia has its own version of the Unity Stone. The Travellers traverse the "greater" GoW earth on ships based on a GoW 2018 mural, showing a ship sailing through a cosmic sea containing bubbles housing galaxies. But the Travellers are also magic-based. In short, we don't know if a purely physical mode of travel between different geographical regions on the "greater" GoW earth is possible or not. As for my personal belief on this, I don't think that Thor, or any other deity, can just physically travel from one geographical region to another on the "greater" GoW earth without employing some sort of magic. That's because the mythological patheons within different geographical regions on GoW's "greater" earth have astronomical cosmologies, containing higher-dimensional structures on several upper levels of infinities. Not to mention, even if some deity does manage to reach the border, I don't think they'll be able to cross it without involving some kind of unique magic. Otherwise, the patheons would've gone on war with each other. But from what we know, the pantheons are somewhat aware of each other, but they're not easily accessible to each other.

[@422crown]

It’s the land beyond the ice wall these places exist in real life and all these stories has happened it’s just every land is in their own plane of existence but we need to raise our frequency to understand it just look at the map terra infinita it shows all the land beyond the ice wall and Asgard and Aten are not far

[@DP-lt6rl]

I mean I thought at the end of ragnork the last mural kratos looks at shows him on a boat heading to the norse world I just beat it again

[@Jondoe_04]

Man I hope they don't do Christainty next. They likely make the saints demigods, it also won't make sense to do.

[@thesungod152]

So basically to summarize it. all the pantheons are separated universes but the cultures existed on the same world? Just a curious question

[@hououinkyouma3864]

I absolutely love, how you included that dev comment, but cut out the part, where thye mentioned that they are in the same section of Earth, because that very same interview would have completely ruined this entire headtheory

[@TheBf666]

The part where you explained the possibility of travelling from that river of clanging swords to hel is intriguing and they should have explored that. They should show how atreus travels out of the realms too as it is interesting.

[@MysticMonty]

YESS yet another video! LETS GOOOO

[@santostroncoso4174]

I think the worshippers who give them there power also give them there origin

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

Author of the original blog here. That's certainly possible. The secondary canon novels for the Greek games do talk about how mortals' faith in the deities gives them their divine authority and influence, and if enough followers leave and/or die, the deity they primarily worshipped risks encumberment and possibly even complete cessation of their existence.

[@camgeorge6222]

The earth is one universe with different pocket realms around it since they all exist in the same space .

[@viniciuspaiva8932]

i think we'll get a proper explanation in the next games about that mask and green rift thing

[@camgeorge6222]

Its basically like the percy jackson universe all the gods and patheons exist together with all theyre myths being true they are regional . Theyre regions arw just theyre own universe or pocket dimensions

[@idkman8530]

I’m extremely glad they didn’t just take the easy way out and make it a multiverse. That’s too cheap.

[@Nexuswalnut33]

This isn't a theory, it's basically a fact.

[@MissingInAccident]

So what I’m hearing is kratos is a universe buster. Hell yeah

[@Nothingtoseriousfr]

Always has been

[@Pinkbellebella]

I would like if mimir is Odin and kratos still don't know and takes kratos in a trap while kratos trying to get his son having kratos show his true power and strength causing earth shaking strength we haven't seen in the Asgard saga letting us know kratos has a way more to showcase then what we seen him do and he could put thor down with ease but didn't letting the fight draw out causing him to get weaker over time but if he showed his true strength it would tip the odds in his favor

[@camgeorge6222]

They are just pockets dimensions existing on the same space and on the same earth

[@Nothingtoseriousfr]

Which are infinite.

[@Paul77786]

What is that intro music called?

[@abdbay]

BTS - black swan

[@just_some_greek_dude]

So how did the Persian army arrived in Greece in the beginning of chains of Olympus?

[@rtxmeatlug1428]

Original writer of the blog here (Agni-Dev on Quora). Your query can be addressed with 2 explanations:- 1. Every country/continent on God of War's "greater" earth looks normal from outside, but is an alternate reality from inside with its own cosmology, creation story, and earth/universe based on the mythology prevalent in that region. So, that Persian army at the beginning of Chains of Olympus could've been of the Greek World/Pantheon. 2. The Persian army actually traversed the "greater" earth and stumbled across the Greek Pantheon, just like how the Travellers in GoW 2018 and Ragnarok stumbled across the Scandinavian pantheon while sailing.

[@Nexuswalnut33]

Probably by a travel stone, since Kratos says it's some kind of travel stone when he sees the unity stone. But it is possible to traverse the lands by boat, but it's just really hard to do so.

[@Nethmina.149]

Greek world had it's own persia

[@broderickblack]

Great

[@abdbay]

Great :)

[@broderickblack]

@@abdbay indeed

[@camgeorge6222]

Dimension dont exist in the same spaces unless its a pocket dimensions

[@Nethmina.149]

Interdimensions can too basically the same thing tho

[@camgeorge6222]

The nine realms are not part of midgard line the other religions. They are outside worlds not where as everything else takes place on earth. So the unity stones brings the nine realms together noth the other pantheons

[@zanderwoodward7634]

If God of brings Christianity in the mix then more than likely there going to have to work with Darksiders in some way

[@alexcrock7942]

My dream game is that all mythologys in GOW go on aliance to defense against an invation from Lovecraft beings

[@vito5519]

I wanted to comment because I am very early but idk what to comment. 😶

[@abdbay]

Comment your thoughts on the video...

[@vito5519]

​@@abdbayI haven't watched it yet but it looks cool

[@MysticMonty]

real

[@jovannihatesmayonnaise1814]

So kinda like gnarnia?

[@ZombieBrain2007]

If gow takes place in a multiverse, if Kratos kept traveling outward forever would he reach the megaverse? Or he simply couldn't cause a multiverse is infinite and you'd have to take some worm hole that'd risk your life or punch a hole through reality some how. In the same multiverse could he possibly run into himself from another universe? If they're in a multiverse could they possibly accidentally travel to for example the greek world again but since it's another universe, there might be some big changes or small changes. Like if Kratos was never born, if the greek gods never died, if kratos was still loyal to the gods. Changes kinda like that. I'm probably not understanding this theory a bunch. since to me kratos traveling on a boat to another country where another pantheon of that culture exists makes a lot more sense than the theory presented.

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

Author of the original blog here. Kindly watch this video from 18:19. GoW doesn't have a multiverse in the conventional sense. It's unique. The "greater" GoW earth is just like our earth. However, within every country or continent, lies a cosmology with a distinct creation story and a pantheon of deities (based on the prominent belief system there). This is how all the mythologies co-exist at once despite contradictions, stretching from the beginning to the end of time, separated by earthly geography. Think of the "bigger on the inside" trope, similar to Hermione's beaded hand bag or Doraemon's 4-D pocket. You physically traverse from Greece to Scandinavia, which looks normal sized from the outside, but as soon as you enter it, there's an entire cosmos within with its own creation story and pantheon of deities. Hope that answers your query.

[@edwinarevalo5785]

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[@abdbay]

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[@ZombieBrain2007]

And one other question, I've heard a shit load of people saying that the 9 realms of yggdrasil are universes. Is that really true??

[@destruidordemundosghostofspart]

Yes

[@Nothingtoseriousfr]

Considering that the novels state that the branches which coexisting with the realms are infinite, then it's safe to assume they are.

[@camgeorge6222]

The universe cant contain a parallel multiple parallel earths especially ones that u can just walk to that are separate from each other by geography.

[@Nothingtoseriousfr]

It can considering those realms are parallel dimensions and seperate realities which contains their own unique outer space and span of space and time as stated by mimir, unless you're gonna say the natural disasters in the Greek world traverses to the Norse.

[@camgeorge6222]

For the last part I think ur making a confusing with the nine realms yes he is in Norse realm which is part of earth but the other nine realms are other pocket realms around Midgard. Thus why u travel to the Norse realms from Greece by foot but not helhiem or asgard.

[@Nothingtoseriousfr]

No, they're not. Midgard is just the setting that takes place on Earth, it has nothing to do with finite space or continental theory unless you're gonna state why kratos was physically dragged by skol and Hati who chase the sun and moon to midgard?

[@camgeorge6222]

Alot of these writers statements are contradictory as they have even said u can walk to Egypt from Norse so yea that doesn't help.

[@Nothingtoseriousfr]

No, you can't. Tyr couldn't even traverse between patheons without a unity stone.

[@camgeorge6222]

It cant be a parallel earth cause thats a difference universes in different space time and they even said u can walk to these regions .

[@Nothingtoseriousfr]

Source?

[@camgeorge6222]

@@Nothingtoseriousfr same video

[@camgeorge6222]

@@Nothingtoseriousfr kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4eVZJqrbbqdjMksi=qbMurpQkLqHj1YEX

[@Nothingtoseriousfr]

@@camgeorge6222 well, yes but the video is referring to the fact that after Greece died, the boundaries that seperate the mythologies failed, hence why kratos stumbled on Egypt despite this being contradicted by not only the novels, but also GOW 4 where kratos states that he would like to visit Egypt one day and in the novels, he's dragged there to scanadanavia by skol and Hati who chase the sun and moon by a woman in yellow (faye).

[@camgeorge6222]

@Nothingtoseriousfr not really infact one set of dev says u can walk can't find that link. Right now

[@wIzKid16100]

Then how did the Persian king come to the Greek world with his homeland magic

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

Author of the original blog here. Kindly watch this video from 17:21. GoW doesn't have a multiverse in the conventional sense. It's unique. The "greater" GoW earth is just like our earth. However, within every country or continent, lies a cosmology with a distinct creation story and a pantheon of deities (based on the prominent belief system there). This is how all the mythologies co-exist at once despite contradictions, stretching from the beginning to the end of time, separated by earthly geography. Think of the "bigger on the inside" trope, similar to Hermione's beaded hand bag or Doraemon's 4-D pocket. You physically traverse from Greece to Scandinavia, which looks normal sized from the outside, but as soon as you enter it, there's an entire cosmos within with its own creation story and pantheon of deities. Now, to answer your question, that Persian King could've been from the Greek pantheon's version of Persia, or from the Persian pantheon itself (present within the country of Persia on the "greater" GoW earth). Both possibilities are equally likely. Hope that answers your query.

[@AdrijanoJ]

Complicated

[@christianhenry4173]

It's not possible. Corey borelog basically said all cultures exists in the same earth along with it's different mythologies. So it's not technically multiversal but Omniversal on Earth

[@AdrijanoJ]

@@christianhenry4173 ok🫡

[@rtxmeatlug1428]

Agni-Dev (author of the original blog) here. I'll try to simplify all this for you. The "greater" GoW earth/universe IS a multiverse where every country/continent is a reality with its own Gods, cosmology, and creation stories based on the mythology prevalent there. It's just that these realities are smaller from the outside, but astronomical from the inside (similar to Doraemon's 4-D pocket). That's what allows for travel between them via conventional means such as ships. The Travellers in GoW 2018 and Ragnarok, for example, stumbled across the Scandinavian pantheon while travelling across the "greater" GoW earth/universe that I talked of earlier. Tyr's Unity Stone, however, allows for accurate and instantaneous travel (by cutting the distance) between the 9 realms and to other countries/continents as well.

[@AdrijanoJ]

@@rtxmeatlug1428 thanks!

[@lordkin-kong8888]

I love God of wars as a franchise dearly.. But let's see if Corey has nuts enough to drop Jesus or the father off into this thing, overtly😐 We all know there's sneak diss n throughout the symbolism all the time. But let's see if he can actually get away with depicting what stands outside of time, space and undering.. Especially human understanding😮 See we can play games with the myths, I enjoy them greatly.. But can we play games with whats real.. Don't believe me? It's so real there's a war being waged right under everybody's noses and nobody has any idea of it.. Example; The average person does not evaluate the words they use and the power those words have.. Nor the "spells" cast from those words.. There's a whole lot tied into that but let's see what happens😲 One more.. God of war as a franchise is extremely interesting. But even more interesting is Kratos's symbol throughout the entire franchise... It's the Omega symbol.. The Omega symbol is not alpha.. Here's the order The first and the last. The beginning and the end. The start and the finish. The "Alpha" and the Omega. If Kratos is being made the strongest and destroyer of all "earthly" gods? He won't be playing games with the Alpha... Again, let's see what happens😁

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

Author of the original blog here. Cory Barlog did say in a tweet that Kratos IS Christianity itself when a user asked him how would he fair in the Christian pantheon. But we don't know if he was fully serious or not.

[@Kryiani]

Damn ​@@rtxmeatlug3149

[@christianhenry4173]

Corey borelog confirmed that all cultures exist on the same earth with its pantheons. So in other Words all cultures have thier own universal laws and magic along with gods So in other Words Kratos is technically not Multiversal by power scaling like the primordials. Hes mostly planetary/ Omniversal. Its a bit weird to explain by definition but it means he's not as powerful as marvel or DC characters, but he exists in a Omniversal World that is constantly evolving galaxies

[@abdbay]

Nicely summarized

[@ThePanther97]

Kratos does indeed scale to the Primordials, in fact he's beyond them. Kratos has already killed two Primordials, both the Primordial God of Death Thanatos and the Primordial Godess of Earth Gaia. He also scales beyond the king of the Primordials Uranus, since he was defeated by the Titan Cronos and Cronos was defeated by Zeus, Kratos is on par with Zeus.

[@Marshkoon]

@@ThePanther97every generation scales above the previous as well. The further down the line each generation could beat the previous. Cronos bested ouranos Cronos was bested by Zeus Zeus was bested by kratos. So by that logic every generation gets more powerful innately regardless of not creating concepts or the universe they now inhabit. Chaos and company created the universe the furies etc, The titans who are considered primordials created concepts within that universe like cronos to time etc. The Greeks now embody smaller concepts in the already created universe but still have the raw power to beat their ancestors regardless Zeus to lightning, Helios to the sun, Poseidon to the seas etc.

[@ThePanther97]

@@Marshkoon Yes exactly my point, I even added that he scales beyond them but some people still don't believe it for some reason. So yeah, everything you added is true.

[@Marshkoon]

@@ThePanther97 people even forget that kratos didn’t need all the gear he had to beat Zeus he ultimately beat him to death using his own innate raw strength with his anger with the power of hope backing him while Zeus had the power of fear driving him.

[@CJfromMEXICO]

your explanation of egypt doesn’t really make sense because in between GoW3 and 2018 Kratos vists egypt in the comic. if its just a land in another mythologies realm, wouldnt it have been destroyed with greece? or subjected to ragnarok?

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

Author of the original post here. The version of Egypt in the Greek pantheon/reality/dimension was probably destroyed at the end of GoW 3, along with the entire mortal world (i.e. earth with an endless sky and surrounded by an endless ocean). The version of Egypt in the Norse pantheon/reality/dimension exists on the core planet of the Midgard realm i.e. earth. These versions of Egypt within different mythological pantheons/realities/dimensions on the "greater" GoW earth are what Santa Monica Studios refer to as geographical regions. The Egyptian pantheon/reality/dimension still exists though. Kratos visited exactly that in the Fallen God comic which you're referring to.

[@CJfromMEXICO]

@@rtxmeatlug3149 do the different versions of egypt (in greece and norse) also have gods? or is that only the egyptian pantheon

[@rtxmeatlug3149]

@@CJfromMEXICO The Egypt(s) in the Greek and Norse pantheon have the Greek and Norse deities ruling over it respectively. This is how the Greek pantheon had control over Africa, Egypt, Persia, Lybia, and the entire Mediterranean. This is also why Matt stated that in the Norse pantheon, Niflheim and Alfheim would have their own versions of Egypt. These countries and continents exist in their reality/dimension as well, and they (the deities) have control over it. However, the Egyptian pantheon has its distinct deities just like the Greek and Norse pantheons. It'd have its own unique creation story, cosmology, and version of earth.

[@Nethmina.149]

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[@Nethmina.149]

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