How NBA Culture Silences Players

NBA Culture Silences Players as Gilbert Arenas and Brandon Jennings discuss the Ja Morant Suspension, comparing it to their experiences with NBA Culture and the Media.
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[@3hristopher]

This conversation is very realistic fans don’t see what’s going on really they just see when they hoopin

[@nic-tv4090]

I'm an EAGLE..I dont wanna hear pigeon talk!! CLASSIC!!!

[@keitht47]

I think it depends on the organization. If it's a blue collar city/franchise with that type of fan base, they want a certain type of player. What gets me is why do you draft that type of player and then unhappy when he doesn't change. You want him to be Stockton but he is Rodman. Both Hall of Famers by the way!

[@BigKing17]

Because in their minds you should bow down to the all mighty dollar.

[@sirunodollaz]

keitht47 you making too much sense you gonna break the internet.

[@jepb6990]

That’s why you do the pre-draft visit. And get to know them on a deeper level

[@sangun123]

@@BigKing17 i mean for a hundred million dollars? like yeah bro, if you dont like it, shut the fuck up and go play for the shang hai sharks

[@Productofthess]

It reminds me of the time the NFL was fining Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson for touchdown celebrations. They wanted players to have the humble Barry Sanders mentality which is score and give the ball back to the ref it was about promoting the teams.The NBA was all about pushing the superstars but you will not get a Gary Payton or a Kevin Garnett and a Allen Iverson type of player to be the face of the league today.

[@mobetta2092]

That seems to have been more of Brandon Jennings’s agent imposing his own feelings on the impressionable Brandon’s haircuts and using “others” as an excuse.

[@axucaroso]

I remember hearing that Jerry Krause asked a prospect would he change his braids if asked. Knew right then the Bulls were not going to return to glory.

[@beedebawng2556]

The Brandon Jennings story is a perfect example of why it's so important to have fathers around. His dad would've been able to help give him certainty.

[@DJLinspires]

This is gold!

[@CozyLoungeShorts]

That’s not technically true. He was silenced for simply being the character he his and his swagger. It was simply the time period he came in and city he went to, too black and not media friendly enough for MIL. A dad wouldn’t have changed the politics of the league. Ja’s dad can’t do anything. Klay’s dad couldn’t do anything but manage money. Bron never had a dad around. Your point is pretty flawed.

[@cts1549]

​@Peaceful Naps i think he was trying to say a father wouldve given him the confidence to continue being himself but i agree. Its a flawed take. A solid support system is a solid support system no matter who it is. Just surround yourself with love and itll work out.

[@fadercreek]

bj and Monte as a backcourt in Milwaukee was underated

[@anthonyhoward1325]

He was the truth man. Before his time💯💯

[@JuugMorant]

Lance Stephenson gave the pacers a spark last year but can’t get on a team because of his streetball style

[@floorgeneral309]

Being the punchline to a Nicki Minaj song is pretty much a death sentence😂😂

[@amancalledhawk5575]

Man that’s crazy like the league mostly is playing street ball

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

@@amancalledhawk5575 no it’s not

[@theframeworknetwork]

Lance def deserves to be in the league. The only player that was really able to get inside Lebron's head.

[@sangun123]

@@theframeworknetwork lmfao you think he got into lebrons head that series? bro was trying the most chilish antics against heat bron and bron had zero problems with lance

[@NaiveAgenda]

The NBA is ultimately a business. You do, say or act in a way that fucks with the leagues potential earnings, you are labelled enemy #1. Guns, gangster shit, young bull behavior are all a detriment to the business.

[@theframeworknetwork]

Spot on! This is what players fail to understand. You are not in partnership with the league. You are an employee

[@onyx_might72]

I'm black and most people in our culture think being gangster or hood is just part of being black. Watch the greats speak back in the day in the NBA you'll see the difference

[@abnuridd24]

The NBA did not make Elfrid Payton cut his "hair". He wanted to rock that and it actually hurt his career. His hair actually got in the way of him shooting. If the NBA would of made him cut it, a lot of people would of pointed to this narrative that I'm not really feeling. If Allen Iverson isn't still complaining about image suppression in the NBA then NO ONE has a right because he got it the worst out of everyone and he never did anything wrong!

[@tonyboss646]

But he ain't BJ😂😂😂

[@reallykeon]

This take is pure stupid lol

[@Theoddvault]

If people could be more like Gilbert, we’d be ok as a country.

[@cantbecanceledpodcast]

I see why Gill wasn’t great!! He was just talented gifted!! No maturity I’m his bones

[@AphasicMute]

Ahhh. I found the insecure "just shut and dribble " commenter.

[@757bigj]

He's right

[@Evilkevin3]

No he got injured lol

[@McFrappin]

You're absolutely correct. Gilbert Arenas was garbage, and now we can't stop seeing him and the rest of these idiots.

[@sangun123]

@@Evilkevin3 the gun incident clearly shows a lack of maturity along with every other single gilbert arenas story, like bro could ball but he was so arrogant he would never have listened to anyone

[@gdogg239]

Hearing gil talk you realize why he was really good but never a champion.

[@NubianStarr]

He wasn't a champion because his teams were never championship caliper... And the front office never gave him the tools to win big! ...Gilbert was an absolute assassin. He is cocky but what top tier elite player is'nt?

[@eboooo]

Because he got hurt and he overtrained

[@seanb3525]

Gil would've been a champion if he didn't tear his knees up and had better teammates, he was a superstar when healthy in his prime!

[@ramirezmanuel117]

Gil had teammates, I remember them putting a hurting on my bulls in the playoffs. They had a lot of pieces that contributed.

[@vincentvega9747]

@@NubianStarr he had the team he probably just didn't have the right guys on the sideline to lead and guide that team

[@eharrisark870hogg4]

Is that the dog from the Martin episode 😂

[@kuunami]

I think it is! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ogkrefloo697]

😂😂😂

[@novelaego2404]

lmao

[@Dantana773]

They promote the players who they Choose and if a player is not The Chosen one by the powers that be, yet said players Get a buzz and get attention from the masses then the smear campaign starts in the media.

[@jasoncrowder8260]

Sounds a lot like what Jimmy Butler went thru in Minnesota when they tried to make him out to be a bad teammate.

[@TheRaquan4]

1:02 As a Cowboys fan this explains why we are the way we are lol

[@ThePirateKingPodCast]

Great show 👏 fans need to hear this 💯

[@saycheese6773]

Nba is a business….$$$$ drives everything. Image over individuals.

[@d3vp131]

If they didn’t have some of these young millionaires pull back a little, they’d bring guns into the locker room or show themselves on IG with a gun. The NBA is a shield. They can’t go back to the free for all crazy 70’s drug league. But there are tons of NBA players whose swag is on full. If you want to play street thug/gangbanger, no Corp is gonna let you represent them like that. NBA fanbase is full of kids and families. They have sponsorship deals and partners that have images to protect. You can turn down your swag a bit for $30 mill+/yr. Time to grow up.

[@kingpeezy916]

Gil showed bars at the end 🦅 🗣️

[@deeharp]

These players are too big headed. One you didn't do anything. Iverson did all that. And the league already went through that image. The league is about making billion dollar deals, not looking cool at the club. You play a 82 game season plus hopefully the plays offs, yet here you are talking about that one-time you scored 55.

[@djrellztrlsoundz1680]

Ur dumb bro he saying that he had to change himself which changed how he played the game of basketball at a young age when ur told to not be Urself don’t do the things that made u who they wanted in the first place can have a negative impact on u

[@Mulugheta88]

Well get some new guys in and let them create their own league 😊

[@777bhana]

I never heard of Jennings getting banned from casinos, getting into fights w/ his wife, or his entourage getting out of control…… but AI did all that w/ a slap on the hand.

[@sangun123]

@@777bhana jennings aint nearly as big of a player as AI, end of story, you want that treatment, be better, lol it's why jordan was doing wild shit off the court without any issues until his forced retirement

[@roncuyos1595]

Mr. 1-4 flat! Love Gil. Always hilarious. True baller.

[@BlackPower-qn2js]

Brothers yall keep doing yall thing keep prospering 🙏🫡💯

[@joegreezy]

“I’m on the billboard, I don’t care what the fuck y’all talkin bout” 😂😂😂

[@jeremyrice645]

Yo Rashad on the preseason 25 cover of sports illustrated was crazy. I remember drawing him doing the between the legs dunk photo in the article

[@mars3676]

I thought Brandon was so swaggy and then he became a lame but I wonder why

[@deon3133]

How is he a lame

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue]

Dude doesn’t want to admit that he just wasn’t that guy anymore

[@johnsolodolo]

We fucked wit Brandon in the Mil! #Bucksin6

[@karithema9ician657]

You goofy BJ was the dude who brought back kids wearing the high tops in the early 2010

[@devonm6260]

“Box tf out. Yo big a**” 😂😂

[@samuelfelix2577]

Gil was probably the best and worst team mate at the same time 😅

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

Factsss

[@Keithwilsonjr757]

A nut ass nigga

[@chipleymusic]

No accountability in sight

[@garywatts2316]

Damn all this makes me hate professional athletes more than I thought I could. I thought the idea was to make money and grow up. Not have a kid mentality your whole life. I mean ain't the goal to leave the old life behind and be a better person than yesterday. Sounds to me like they wanna get rich and carry on with they old lives and play gangster and then act like they are the victims.

[@FamousQueenLadyAct]

Shout out to everybody on the panel. I love this topic. Yall shouldn't feel bad though when it comes to "silencing swagg". Ive worked in several fields that do this including culture, corporate, religion, being an entertainer etc. Thank God I'm extremely diverse & serve a powerful God. "If you don't make $5million dollars don't talk to me directly" lmaooo 😭😂 team Gil's Arena!

[@drevonnsalley8144]

Maryland just not to long ago pass the crown act, which prohibits discrimination against hairstyles in regards to employment. This type of stuff was happening in a multitude professions at that time.

[@ChanGardeningToolPark]

Funny shit is Gilbert talking about players like McCants 😂 dude was a bum in the league dude wouldn't be able to even get a whisper in

[@intendedexpression6609]

Averaging double digits points in the NBA is success. He even had a 15 ppg year so he definitely wasn't a bum. Not everyone is an allstar or lasts too long.

[@ChanGardeningToolPark]

@@intendedexpression6609 shit my bad you right, he had 2 decent seasons. social media trained us to only remember the stars. thats my b bro.

[@tballa23]

McCants got some nerve telling ppl he wasn’t passing the ball & he averaged 10pts a game 😭😭

[@intendedexpression6609]

Like 10 is a bad thing. Averaging double digits points in the NBA is success. He even had a 15 ppg year.

[@VandalSavage72]

Tellin an NBA player he dnt make enough to talk to you is crazy 😂😂.. Obviously I know they don’t make the same but they all are sizable contracts

[@nobad4265]

Y'all gotta make a clip outta that Scott skiles story lol

[@james352]

weird. they want you to act like a professional and set good examples. so weird. grow up.

[@glendastewart2571]

No crown today? Much better

[@Snesfalcon]

Imagine caring what another grown man wears 😆

[@sneezy-e]

That really bothers y’all? That’s kinda fragile

[@glendastewart2571]

@@Snesfalcon I was just referring to the crown off because I now see what he looks like without it, as I can’t remember the last time he didn’t have it on. He’s very good looking

[@glendastewart2571]

@@sneezy-e Lawd! Can’t a person just make an observation!?

[@vicshephard9231]

​@@Snesfalcon I believe op's a lady.

[@staccstrey2724]

GET YA MONEY UP !!! - Gil 🤣🤣

[@POPINTHETAPE]

Gil funny as fuck, but I love his honesty. 😂 I’m gon get mine. Them 19 points is staying.

[@cantbecanceledpodcast]

Go play ball!!!!!!!! Ain’t nobody trying to silence y’all! Some of y’all just do to dam much period!!!!

[@majinbeezy]

Oh look we got ourselves a shut up and dribble guy lmao take that shit somewhere else

[@MrBmick79]

Kinda see some McCants parallel with Caleb Love...

[@jcoop552000]

Neither guy went to the Finals. Childish. I remember Jennings being immature while be was playing.

[@Mercuricmike]

Wish lighting was 15% brighter hahaha

[@terrancebradley4582]

My dogg Gil solid dude real as it gets 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@BTCSowhat]

Whoooo, 10M and up ⬆️. Add some value to yourself. Fkn amazing

[@iamstill]

😂 LMAO 0 where the movie mane???

[@TheOuttaPocketVarietyShow]

If Ja gets left off the All-NBA team this year, he's gonna lose out on an extra 38 million in incentive money on his contract. I'd rather lose my swag than lose out on that money. Ja has not only his own kid, but his entire family to provide for. Plus paying his agent 😂and paying Uncle Sam.

[@neutralgenius25]

Aint getting taxed that hard in Memphis. Curry getting cooked on taxes in Cali.

[@TheOuttaPocketVarietyShow]

@@neutralgenius25 They pay 37% federally

[@baradureye2170]

I mean all morant had to do was stay off the guns and toss the loser friends who don’t wanna grow up, simple

[@Sangotayo]

People kill me when they say “This is me”. It wasn’t you when you walked into that office…

[@henrywal]

Gilbert Quote. Fuk y'all: I'm on the Billboard.

[@mannypolanco]

Terrible teammate!!

[@BasiliousThePhilosopher]

Get your money up😂 you don't make enough to get the ball lmao

[@future62]

NBA likes to break its bucks if they get out of line. Ja was wilding but you still hate to see it

[@369pendulum]

They didn't break him, they saved him. The media attempts to break these players, but most media members were concerned for him. Yall need to learn to think for yourselves.

[@sangun123]

lol "pays someone hundreds of millions of dollars and asks them not to promote hood shit" "OH MY GOD WERE OPPRESSED, THEYRE BREAKING OUR BUCKS" like are you fucking kidding me

[@eharrisark870hogg4]

Mr Gil 4 Flat …. I knew it was coming

[@FullyLooted]

These guys dribble a basketball for a living. The NBA has become so boring where everyone just rehearses the same thing over and over and over and over. They need to allow the players to say whatever they want

[@mannypolanco]

Gilbert is one bitter player!!

[@Munards]

This one gold 😂

[@BruceL33Roy]

Buck Breakin

[@McFrappin]

Not even close.

[@sangun123]

lmfao imagine being given hundreds of millions of dollars, and when they ask you not to promote hood shit with the platform they just gave you, you cry and pretend to be oppressed or victims

[@yoelgriffin9703]

Bruh y’all gotta chill on Gill lol he just wanted to hoop and get money 😂 what’s wrong with that?

[@SilkWilk]

Why it look like they wearing makeup around their eyes?

[@outdaboxtv]

Because when you go in studio you are most likely wearing makeup that’s entertainment

[@Mulugheta88]

They take y’all for granted like that league wouldn’t fold if it wasn’t for you guys like it was about to fold in 70s…

[@xxxxx9606]

Gill Be Breaking Down How The NBA No Different From NFL With Slave Plantation Vibes ‼️

[@vinsanity3510]

Eagles are basically glorified seagulls. Falcons and hawks are the REAL raptors.

[@champsachdev7023]

Bro please help Ja it's his dad...Mamba Forever!!!

[@benitojuarez999]

Gilbert needs to stop comparing himself to Ja..i understand the gun BS.but besides that Arenas aint on ja's level

[@KT-jr9qq]

Casual Gil was better than Ja . Do your research kid

[@Freshprincephilly]

Lol you need to research Gilbert. Dude was nice

[@benitojuarez999]

@@Freshprincephilly I know who he is..where he played.etc..try me

[@benitojuarez999]

@@KT-jr9qq ja will have a longer and more successful career when it's all said and done.. Guaranteed!!! (Barkley voice)

[@nic-tv4090]

@@benitojuarez999 IF he dont get shot doing stupid shit with his friends and family and dont get injured.