How Nero Ruined the Olympics

[@tribunateSPQR]

What ancient event would you add to the modern Olympics?

[@Boardwoards]

I would boycott them as moses (musaeus) did. difficult to wade through the associated lies but as egypt shared a major port known for being primarily dealing with greece that moses is said to have been around that would explain being the teacher of orpheus (which is also twisted to be backwards) it's all kinds of complicated in fact, refusing to bring his music (having spent much time learning to communicate feeling through music with a burned out tongue) is probably why music was ultimately dropped from the games.

[@cjthebeesknees]

“Other Roman’s came to Greece to conquer, Nero came to perform” This is quite a mighty burn.

[@damonl9981]

Everybody bashes Nero, only Tribunate bashes Nero with the sharp end of a pickax. Good stuff.

[@dlxmarks]

Nero's athletic achievements were unmatched until Admiral-General Haffaz Aladeen's wins at the Wadiyan Games.

[@cjthebeesknees]

Not everyone will get this 😂

[@acropolismauve8496]

@@cjthebeeskneesBut the real ones will! 😂

[@StanGB]

Nero really ruined absolutely everything he touched didn't he?

[@mkepioneet]

Except for his CD burning software 😁

[@Tony-if3tl]

Far from it. Actually, Nero was one of the great builders of history. Subsequent to the great fire of Rome he instituted the first meaningful building code regulations. He addressed firewalls, adequate space and wider streets, etc. Fire was endemic in ancient Rome and this was a huge step forward. Criticism of His Domus Aurea a.k.a. Golden House come from subsequent hostile historians. In actuality, this was a completely innovative architectural accomplishment. J.B. Ward-Perkins (a noted architectural historian) states: “It is hardly an exaggeration to say that the whole subsequent history of European architectural thought hangs upon this historic event.”

[@TobyTubeS]

I would have loved it if the Brazilians cited Nero as a precedent

[@gow2ilove]

Can't wait to watch this video tonight, thanks once again for putting out another video without failure

[@tribunateSPQR]

Hope you enjoyed it! Happy to keep putting this stuff out for all the wonderful people who enjoy the content - will be back to weekly. uploads beginning this fall

[@durfkludge]

Always thrilled to see a new Tribunate video drop.

[@tribunateSPQR]

thank you!! Always love seeing support in the comments

[@luismelloleite]

Lovely to watch you grow, keep up

[@CBrace527]

Nero was history's all time most spoiled child

[@cjthebeesknees]

Commodus might give em a run for his narcissistic money.

[@backalleycqc4790]

It depends on whether the written record is accurate. Nero's critics sure didn't like him and wrote all kinds of stuff 🤣

[@android65mar]

Love your videos, great history channel.

[@tribunateSPQR]

Thank you!!

[@citizenVader]

Nero is gonna do what Nero is gonna do

[@tribunateSPQR]

Yeah he is a textbook case of what happens when you never hear the word "No"

[@PStylesWorldwide]

Y’all are doing fantastic work. This has to be the most unique channel about Roman history!

[@Skibbityboo0580]

Oh what an artist dies in mSTABSTABSTABSTAB

[@di3727]

My buddy Nero is just a victim of negative and vindictive propaganda by his own murderers.

[@tribunateSPQR]

Real shame if you ask me

[@TheLordRichard]

Unironically true

[@professorx4047]

Did a double take at that thumbnail

[@tribunateSPQR]

because he looks so good right?

[@1917girl]

Another great video ♥️. possible suggestion for a video, we hear a lot about how Caesar was very popular, and from reading on my own and watching other KZbin videos, I know approximately what he did to gain so much favor with the common people, but I would love to see this channel 's take on it! you guys always provide a very refreshing point of view on subjects that seem to have been run into the ground by wider pop history creators

[@tribunateSPQR]

Thanks! In my opinion Caesar is the central figure of Roman history (as well as the most interesting) so when we started We had a ton of Caesar content but drifted away since we didn't want to just be the Caesar channel. But after a bit away I want to go back to him soon and this would be a great place to start. thanks for the recommendation and the support.

[@etoeto6754]

Or michael phelps gold medal in 2008 olympics he arrived secod but was still awared gold medal explanation from olyimoucs was that he in fact did arrive second but his opponent didn press sensor strong enough

[@backalleycqc4790]

Yup, that was insane. I didn't see Phelps being all nice-nice, giving up his gold medal and taking silver, I guess his ego clouded his view of gentlemanliness.

[@chr0matic556]

thank you for the content :) 💖

[@m.streicher8286]

Controlling 4 horses on a chariot takes a lot of skill and practice. It wouldn't have taken much self reflection for Nero to realize how silly that was.

[@CossackGene]

The chariot story reminds me of Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov (of Turkmenistan) at the horse races, lol

[@Giantcrabz]

i love his gold statue

[@kaloarepo288]

There is a section in Herodotus' Histories called "Trial of the Athletes" where some ancient Olympic athletes were condemned for cheating in the Olympic Games - the theme was picked up by Italian dramatists and opera composers in the 18th century when an estimated 50 different composers nearly all Italian wrote operas on this theme. The most noteworthy composer here was Pergolesi but composers like Vivaldi, Galuppi and Cimarosa also wrote their versions of the story where the prize is not a medal but the hand of a beautiful maiden -one of the athletes swaps identity with a friend so he can win this coveted prize but the deceit is discovered at the end. The Vivaldi version of this story was performed in Paris recently in conjunction with the Olympic Games there.

[@brenokrug7775]

It just might be because I'm Brazilian and I was only 5 at the time, but I had never heard of any Baldini and the only athlete I knew from the 2004 olympic marathon is our champion Vanderlei Cordeiro de Lima 🇧🇷

[@tribunateSPQR]

the undisputed people's champion

[@brenokrug7775]

@@tribunateSPQR indeed. That was very saddening, both for Vanderlei and for Brazil. He was about to be the first and up until now only Brazilian to win the olympic marathon.

[@randstahl4869]

History is said hardly repeats itself as much as it rhymes from one epic line to the next in expression of events. Neither repeated nor rhyme might it do, but history holds before us a figurative mirror into which we can view.

[@Giantcrabz]

excellent breakdown. Corrupt judges and absolute immunity, what could go wrong?

[@erisu69]

Another excellent and thought-provoking video! While it's easy to condemn the wanton debauchery of Nero and his ilk, a more sympathetic look can show them for what they were - victims of circumstance, born at the top of a horrendously unequal civilisation and brainwashed into believing their domination was natural and divine. A tragic situation for all involved. (He definitely deserves all the blame for that neckbeard though.)

[@Dragonette666]

Nero and Caligula did to Rome what Romans had done to others , best Emperors ever tbh

[@cjthebeesknees]

You sympathize with tyrants.

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

As a Brazilian, I am not even nationalistic but I watched the maraton live and it was a sham that he lost the gold. The Brazilian runner was nearly over and with a good advantage, he was attacked due to a lack of security from the organizers, injured and had to start from behind the runners passing him while the whole ordeal was being resolved and he was treated. Even as a joke I think it's wrong to compare it to Nero.

[@wimokaharawira8443]

A comment for the Greek algorithm god's

[@kevinmcqueenie7420]

Let's bring back Chariot racing!

[@kevinmcqueenie7420]

It is frustrating but also endlessly fascinating that we will never know just how bad (if even at all in the grand scheme) Nero was. Propaganda after the fact, an historical record that is less than complete, plus the general fog of history, means we will never truly have a definitive answer. Always fun to speculate though. I doubt he was much worse than any other ruler around his time, but a good story is a good story, and propaganda tends to do well in any time period.

[@dlxmarks]

And an Iraqi judoka competitor became the first positive doping test on the opening day of the 2024 Games. Also a Canadian women's soccer coach was sent home for spying on the New Zealand team with a drone.

[@danielating1316]

Did Augustus purge the Senate?

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

I think you could say Nero had unlimited _liicense,_ he had complete _liberties,_ but he did not have complete *freedom,* certainly not in the way the Ancients understood it.

[@bigbo1764]

Just learned the Greeks gave crowns to victors in Olympics games, way cooler than medals lol

[@earlpipe9713]

The Roman senators were nothing but jealous haters smh

[@tribunateSPQR]

They couldn’t match his swag and resented him for it

[@McToaster-o1k]

Comment for the algorithm

[@tribunateSPQR]

thank you!! much appreciated

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

10 horses on a 4 horse chariot is such a Nero thing to do! 😁

[@Thx1138sober]

comment for algorithm

[@tribunateSPQR]

thanks!!!

[@some______guy]

I have a feeling Elon musk will be viewed like Nero

[@BriDog1474]

Olympic athletes immortal??? I can't name any from 30 yrs ago. Now, Albert Einstein is immortal!

[@rbbl_]

nero is a legend yall just jealous

[@geronimo8159]

Reminds me of Trump cheating at golf ⛳

[@tribunateSPQR]

autocrats really don't like to lose

[@Eliasgreek-y5k]

🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 A TRUE ARTIST MAY GOD GRAND HIM FAME AND GLORY AS FOR CHRISTIANS HE KILLED I HOPE IN AFTERLIFE APOLOGISE TO GOD FOR WHAT HE DID TO THEM I HOPE IN AFTERLIFE NERO BECAME CHRISTIAN

[@Eliasgreek-y5k]

He cheated He lost He should accept defeat 🇬🇷🇪🇺🇬🇷👋☦️✝️👋👋 Too much horsepower ... He could make A balance chariot To turn easily. With less horsepower ...

[@WildMen4444]

Hail to the Divine Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus!