How not DOPED Vingegaard KICKED Pogačar in the Cleanest* Race EVER

Jonas Vingegaard second edition. The 2023 Grand Boucle was the 110th edition of the Grand Boucle. It started in Bilbao, Spain, on 1 July and ended with the final stage at Champs-Élysées, Paris, on 23 July. Defending champion Jonas Vingegaard (Team Jumbo-Visma) won the general classification for the second year in a row. Two-time champion Tadej Pogačar (UAE Team Emirates) finished in second place, with Adam Yates (UAE Team Emirates) finishing third. The race began in Bilbao in the Basque Country before returning to the Eiffel's Tower country. The first two weeks of the race was closely fought between Vingegaard and Pogačar, with just 10 seconds between the riders by the end of the second week. The decisive stages were the individual time trial on stage 16 where Vingegaard won by 1 minute 38 seconds ahead of Pogačar, and the subsequent stage in the Alps where Vingegaard extended his lead to over seven minutes. Vingegaard won the race for the second year running, putting him equal on race wins with his rival Pogačar. His winning margin of 7 minutes 29 seconds was the largest since 2014. The points classification was won by Jasper Philipsen (Alpecin-Deceuninck) for the first time. The mountains classification was won by Giulio Ciccone (Trek-Segafredo), the first Italian to achieve this feat since 1992. The young rider classification was won by Pogačar for the fourth year in a row, and the team of Team Jumbo-Visma won the team classification. Victor Campenaerts (Lotto-Dstny) was chosen as the most combative rider.
0:00-1:51 Jonas Vingegaard is not DOPED guys
1:51-5:19 Jasper Phillipsen’s not DOPED sprints
5:19-7:09 Dropper Seatpost’s Mohoric not DOPED Hipocresy
7:09-9:26 Not DOPED Highlights of Spaniards and Teams who win years later
9:26-12:17 Felix Gall and Jai Hindley’s not DOPED stories
12:17-14:39 Jonas Vingegaard vs Tadej Pogacar Preparations for the Grand Boucle
14:39-17:16 Not DOPED Vingegaard DESTROYING Pogacar at Marie Blanque
17:16-20:11 Not DOPED Pogacar SCARY performances vs Vingegaard at Cauterets
20:11-23:54 How not DOPED Vingegaard inspires in the DOPED Zenon Jaskula
23:54-28:44 HILARIOUS Jonas Vingegaard BLOW UP Pogacar in Time Trial
28:44-31:28 Not DOPED Pogacar CRACKS and low not DOPED REBIRTH

[@cyclinghighlights]

Next Video : The amazing 1998 Grand Bouclé Probably Future Videos : Mathieu Van der Poel 2023 Season / Chris Froome 2023 Season Thanks for sharing!

[@GettingGoodatGeoGuessr]

Really looking forward to hearing your take on the Festina affair, funny one liners are expected

[@casualsender2316]

Please do Festina and Froome.

[@irl-cyclist01]

Pigeon pie vs haggis ?

[@BobbyDick22785]

Please emphasize why CRINGE DOPED Pantani should have been way more expelled than Ully

[@More-than-ladyboys]

It would be fantastic if you could make daily recaps of the tour. Like Laterne Rouge, but in your style. The bullshit served up deserves mocking. Top job. Subbed.

[@bg-jo7kj]

I can't understand why none of the big Pharma companies sponsor the Grand Boucle. it would be a simple transition; Jumbo Pfizer, DSM-DMT, Fentanyl - Quickstep, Bayer Victorious, etc. At least we'll know who's really behind the prescriptions.

[@oliverleigh9854]

🤣🤣🤣 indeed

[@ferventheat]

You had me at fentanyl quickstep 🤣

[@elsenorvananas]

F it, I will run my local XC races with full 3CHI Kyle Busch swag and stickers, see if I can hook me up with some We*d sponsorship and make it to the big leagues with Gerardo Ulloa, who of course is totally not a pothead

[@AdamGordon1]

Fentanyl isn't pharma company 😂

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

​@@AdamGordon1China LLC.

[@G_Otieno]

Finally, after ages of searching, I got the best channel. believe me, no child won't go to bed when your story telling. you nailed it mate I am definitely subscribing coz I want to make you great like J.Vingergaard.

[@kingjasko]

afaik mohorič's interview came from the heart and was not prepared beforehand

[@cyclinghighlights]

Of course and your defense of Mr. Silence behind a slovenian flag is came from the heart too. That's the Good thing of the comments section!

[@kingjasko]

@@cyclinghighlights i mean, "in defense", that's what was heard on national media, take it as you wish :P deep down im aware majority of these people are PROBABLY doped, so i absolutely love your videos, just wanted to point out something that us slovenians might know more about, no big deal

[@cyclinghighlights]

Oh mate didn't detect That. Sorry jaja

[@kingjasko]

@@cyclinghighlights relax, s'all good, man

[@PlayaBoss96]

7.4 Watts Per Kilo for 14 minutes! Full Natty Brah! You just need a big bag of viking blood!

[@cyclinghighlights]

At least he's not bald.

[@dancolombo6050]

​@@cyclinghighlights- at least we think so

[@petervirthphoto]

@@cyclinghighlightsnot yet

[@felipealves7177]

Durianrider average fan detected

[@PlayaBoss96]

@@felipealves7177 I am a fan

[@thomaspetersen9991]

Worlds Race Report: Albert Withen Philipsen is the new junior men’s road World champion. The 16 year-old Dane was with a strong leading group of seven, rode away from them on the penultimate lap and then soloed to victory. He is the youngest ever junior World champion. Germany’s Paul Fietzke took the silver medal. The bronze went to Felix Ørn-Kristoff, Alexander Kristoff’s half-brother

[@oliviernoir6669]

This is sad to see EPO records broken because "bikes are lighter". Thanks for your videos full of refreshing sarcasm, I love them.

[@allan4922]

Don't forget longer socks and breathable jerseys 😂

[@janscanulfsson9295]

​@@allan4922and oatmeal, lots of oatmeal.

[@wraith8323]

As a keto diet advocate, let's not leave out that exogenous ketone performance bump 😅😅😅

[@craigkennett6226]

I'm pretty sure the bikes have to be above a minimum weight? Or maybe that's just track cycling

[@michadebicki6534]

@@craigkennett6226 6.8 kg both for track and road bike UCI competitions

[@lvxxviii]

I love the satire, excellent story telling skills.

[@robertogaspar2831]

You deserve a dedicated cycling show 😂 spot on!

[@adammork7171]

Love these videos mate, 100% subscribed

[@thadkissick]

One vote from me on a video from you on Froome's 2023 season.

[@dangurtler7177]

Nothing to see from Froome in 2023. A grand total of 8 UCI points from him, it is no surprise that his team held him out of the TdF.

[@rurtm1430]

2 !

[@dangurtler7177]

@@rurtm1430 You are right, 8 points is the 12-month running total.

[@rockeastwood]

FANTASTIC Video! Wasn't expecting that lol. So good. Well done. Magical voice.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Pogacar watched with his "eternal toddler complex". Brilliant! That is exactly what I could not pinpoint about Tadej, that phrase describes him perfectly.

[@jupphainkas3070]

what is meant whith this phrase?

[@TobiasHoendervangers]

Haha same!

[@goldenretriever6261]

​@@jupphainkas3070he's boyish

[@jupphainkas3070]

@@goldenretriever6261 ah, thanks :)

[@flyingchimp12]

He’s cool guy though

[@goldenretriever6261]

Way too much negativity.

[@cyclinghighlights]

No mate. Proudhomme/Lappartient duo are the Best since Ike and Tina Turner

[@ronstewtsaw]

It's his brand. I hope that one day we find out he's wrong. But I am not betting on it.

[@goldenretriever6261]

​@@cyclinghighlightsIke and Turner? .damn you're even older than me

[@Edwardian]

I bet Jonas’ daughter sleeps at Kolobnev’s hotel, eats Jumbo-Visma themed ketone Cheerios Puffs and has a red bull for dinner. Demi Vollering better pack her bags cause she’s done!

[@cyclinghighlights]

Jonas prefers Tenerife, Kolobnev is for Pogi and specially Remco, Who lives there

[@michaelsteven1090]

I haven't watched yet but liked instantly..👍🏻

[@burgerfc]

I would like to see a video on how a rider would be able to dope at the current time without outside help like Lance Armstrong etc.

[@user-sg3xd4dj1p]

Pogi cracked so he would not be suspicious 😂

[@VendettaMax]

Can't stop laughing watching your videos. The commentary is so over the top, ridiculous, but so true and direct that it almost feels like I'm not watching cycling content.

[@paullee3660]

Same as the UFC. It would be financially disastrous to to actually catch and punish the dopers.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

The UFC catches them fairly often. They just give them a slap on the wrist through a canceled fight. The UCI definitely tests riders, as does WADA who has no interest in UCI financial success. The issue is that it's easier to break rules than to catch people breaking them.

[@cyclinghighlights]

UFC is a Joke

[@paullee3660]

@@englishorchard-haze4708 sue. The sad thing is they are sacrificing their health without getting fame and fortune in return. If you are using PEDs only to come tenth in a local contest, is it really worth the price?

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@englishorchard-haze4708 heading that way? They've always been soft on doping. As for crossfit, they barely do any out of competition testing. They use WADA's same banned drug list but don't allow WADA drug testers access to their athletes. At least some boxing commissions are under WADA and they're tested more than Crossfit folks. But it's not like testing has ever stopped doping. Grand tour riders are tested often and nearly always pass their tests despite doping

[@lamf4846]

Why punish Armstrong then?

[@tiagoafonso7793]

"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again."

[@gerritbaronvonknutschzuvie8160]

I just found your channel today. You are absolutely amazing. This content deserves to be seen much much much more. Keep going!

[@ndb6ndk99]

Top class snarkieness. Love it

[@gonzogeorgism2712]

„… Jordi the chicken boy surrounded by the Ortega sisters…“ Incredible….

[@shawnington]

This has to be what David Attenborough does in his free time.

[@freakdog]

The video about this years vuelta is gonna be good! 😂

[@DavidVidaurri]

This was so entertaining I’m going to watch it again❤

[@wraith8323]

I'm about 4 rewatches in, this a classic 👌

[@danielGorski77]

Thank you!! Great material , and necessary !

[@giovannimontanari9683]

I bet your heart went back to the 90s, that ITT was straight from the Big Mig years!

[@cyclinghighlights]

Pogacar in the role of Bugno

[@drazenstefanovic6122]

@@cyclinghighlightswhy are you so angry? Can you explain me your frustration?!

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@@drazenstefanovic6122 why do you think people are angry?😅

[@matosos25]

@@drazenstefanovic6122 we are not angry we are all amused with all the cleaness in the peloton

[@craigkennett6226]

Bloody Brilliant. Saying what most haven't the guts to say but they think it, But Omerta still rules cycling

[@johnoconnor991]

Once again, the video made me laugh out loud. Very funny, keep it up. So true about Jasper Phillipsen -- he's an idiot. And Mohoric is now a saint. The laughs keep coming. Excellent job.

[@roadcyclist1]

No, jasper is a genius. Look at the stage wins he pulled off. The jokes on you and the riders that lost to him.

[@danielmacdonald721]

Keep crying I enjoy your tears

[@andreaborgonovo3185]

When you said: "Friends this happens because of the equipment materials, lighter bikes, more breathable jerseys, longer socks, aerodynamic materials and the faboulose nutrition plan of today. Oat meals and greasy spanish sausages. It was different in the 90s. They didn't know how to prepare!" Ahahah i couldn't stop laughing 😂😂😂😂 should be translated to italian channel..we will love this video😂😂😂

[@slayermtb_7848]

bahahahahahah! Right out of the gate !! You are the GOAT! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@moritzf2211]

I love this channel more than I love my myself, and I’m riding s-works bikes, so that means quite something

[@elsenorvananas]

Have you ever built your own frame? I´m THAT guy with a "fancy" steel bike, I´m sure I can beat you in Strava

[@sncxmas4198]

any chance of a jv/rabobank team retrospective video up to present day given what is happening at la vuelta now and the hessman story? a remarkable season to cap off a remarkable history.

[@kev-laroberts9322]

As always, excellent work.

[@wraith8323]

Yassssssssss, been hoping for this 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@OriginalKKB]

Excellent stuff. And clean! The spirit of the great Lance Pharmstrong lives on in these riders.

[@sambiker4478]

Well ... I watched this video at about 7 pm. When I went to bed, some 5 hours later, I found myself to be laughing like a drain! Who-the-hell decided to call him "Poggi". Hahaha - hysterical.

[@winstoncat6785]

The 2 of them were incredible from the earliest days of their cycling though. They smashed records as teenagers too. Surely you'Re not suggesting they were on the sauce back then too?

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

Considering that doping is very widespread in in younger categories, I am 100% certain that they were 100% clean their entire lives no doubt about it.

[@rafalpruszynski1707]

Jonas was one of the worst riders in cycling until about 3 years ago. He had no successes as a junior. Then suddenly became unbeatable. Pogacar has a long history of success as a junior and was fully expected to be a top rider

[@nikosvault]

@@rafalpruszynski1707 " In March 2018, Vingegaard set the record for the fastest ever ascent of the Coll de Rates climb in Spain" Nice try siver medal fanboy.

[@holmbjerg]

​@@rafalpruszynski1707Not true at all. Vingegaard was tested early in a sports science center and they found out that he had an extraordinary VO2 max.

[@shanewilson8795]

that couldnt be further from the truth, just go on google man@@rafalpruszynski1707

[@steveheck7754]

Great to see someone's not afraid , to tell it like it is. Doping is the elephant in the room , that no one dares mention anymore.

[@ferventheat]

The teams are sure good at blood doping antidetection methods. And Greg Lemond does note mechanical doping has been an issue up til recently, with certain white Kenyan past tour winners named.

[@tannerslomko]

Dude you make the best video titles ever. Love it.

[@REMYX14]

1.30 minutes over 22km is mental it’s like winning over a second in the 100 meter final . And like the autor mention pogacar did a great tt. Jonas has rocket fuel running trough his veins!!

[@lkb3rd]

I think a "goon" like in hockey could teach Phillipsen a lesson.

[@englishteacherdon]

The most critical piece of information in this video at the 18:25 mark. There is no way a record like that falls if you are clean. The climbing times of the mountains are always the best indicator of how dirty a Tour de France is. The FDJ team doctor's words 28:13 were the most honest words of this video. The journalist and TDF organization have to know what is really going on. I feel like I wasted 3 weeks of my life following this year's race.

[@roadcyclist1]

Are you naive? They are all doping and always have been since the 80s. It's an even playing field since they all do it.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

It's not wasting time. Just watch it for what it is. A spectacle of superhuman performance. And it's not like FDJ riders aren't doping too. They're simply not as good as the rest.

[@cyclinghighlights]

@veganpotterthevegan Probably FDJ guys have less money to have the Best materials. It was weird that Pinot couldn't have a Last stage victory when Cofidis guys for example have 2 Wins for the first time in 15 years.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@@cyclinghighlights sure, and a lot less talent. Pinot isn't who he used to be

[@ettio]

We have been lied to about thousands of things. This is just one of them. See it as an Hollywood movie. Great entertainment, but real? No.

[@Legionarivss]

That 17:45 Dutchman next to Thomas Dekker, what's his name? Geert or Gert Willink cycling doesn't show me information!

[@Jonziebal]

So funny! Keep going!!

[@buddhaboy-]

🔥nice work🧡

[@zachrichardson7099]

Absolutely brilliant video, as always. At this point, i'm convinced you actually just hate cycling and only watch the sport for some kind of masochistic pleasure

[@oliverleigh9854]

he just cut thru the BS and straight to the point. if everything in the world was like this things would've been a lot better. I mean infinity better

[@MerlinMan1579]

How can we ever have faith that Pro Cycling is clean?

[@cyclinghighlights]

Even Amateur Sports are full of drugs. Look the case of the "boxing youtuber" ByViruzz. Amazing story.

[@dreieinhalb1575]

@@cyclinghighlights you got a link for that one? everything i find is in spanish

[@cyclinghighlights]

@dreleimhalb1575 If we found a video editor we want to make a channel of dopers in all sports

[@lkb3rd]

We can't

[@PerryScanlon]

When the testing methods are updated with the science instead of being years behind and when each nation's athletes are tested by other nations out of competition.

[@MarcraM82]

Amazing work

[@jeremyclutson8244]

So good. Love your stuff.

[@heavymetal6910]

Love these videos 😂

[@SpiritualStuntman]

If you watch one Tour de France 2023 summary, this should be the one. You, sir, are a legend! Thank you 🙏🏽

[@CHRoOMAX]

Jonas is THE NEW KING, Tadej will have to do with being his loyal servant ^^

[@bluedutch01]

Great report.... thank you! This young man has 'rescued' the great and glorious sport of cycling and proven drugs and cheating are for losers.

[@ekschiz]

It's a weird feeling TBH. When they put in monster efforts like V's time trial, as an athlete and a lover of the tour, u know they are doped as fuck, but what's weird is that when u watch TDF these days, you expect that later, most of them, will be discovered and it has become part of the show... poor cycling...

[@gibsonlespaulspecial]

Subscribed......really great commentary 🙂

[@Calidastas]

Even Greg Lemond is carrying water for JV, claiming his power/kg is off the charts because he lost so much weight and looks like a concentration camp victim. This was the worst tour since Landis for being completely unbelievable.

[@stefand5034]

I am not surprised. Whatever it takes him to ride as fast as a track sprinter, it works for UCI and TdF. They need to create a villain but not sure JV plays the best role for it like LA once did. Remember, it is all a show, entertainment, showbusiness, it's a sports event, like football, basketball, everything goes

[@stevestewart-sturges2159]

Everyone is working overtime to sell the better training methods, diet, aero gains and turned in brake levers have made the riders faster and stronger. When LeMond talks about all this, that look on his face tells you all you need, it's BS..

[@oliverleigh9854]

From a guy who almost die to winning the tour again. what a miraculous comeback story 🤣🤣🤣

[@MarkKanaster-ev6pq]

My biggest regret is Greg said he didn’t see any doping Greg Greg Greg 😊

[@DigzGuy]

One of the funniest videos on youtube without a doubt! Lol

[@CaptiveFreedoms]

do some livestreams next july please sir. i beg you

[@calinmarian98]

Wonder if you got requests from Jumbo Visma to take this video down.

[@cyclinghighlights]

Why Jumbo and not UAE or INEOS?

[@MrSkill_420]

u keep insinuating this modern epoc is doped up but give no evidence of what or how they are doing so? AFAIK EPO is testable and therefore unusable,.. is it blood doping that infuses their thighs? Or the now unbanned Salbutamol? Or something else?

[@vawapud]

A brave video, thank you sensei

[@emilioroman9853]

What most people do NOT understand it’s that Rabobank and jumbo are not the same team, not the same organization and none of the Rabobank directors or coaches it’s envolved anymore, it’s a new organization that just so happened that bought the Rabobank license after it collapsed, they could have literally bought any other license but the Rabobank one it’s the one that was up for grabs

[@cyclinghighlights]

Please. Even Erik Dekker, one of the biggest dopers in Rabobank era is one of the directors of the team.

[@eduardoschneider2010]

Finally someone talking straight honest

[@savagepro9060]

Vingegaard, Skeletor on Vinegar

[@FaiscaaaH]

How not to love this movies of yours, they are BRILLIANT !!!

[@Hello_world525]

They are nearly looking to fly like a lugworm this year.

[@incognita112]

unrelated to this video but have you lived in spain for an extended period? Your comments and jokes on society and politics are always on point!

[@incognita112]

i also want some asturian cream like tony romminger

[@DarkpowderUK]

For sure, it's certainly insightful comments always, and as knowledgeable, no. Actually more so than some commentators. I'm certain some pro cyclists enjoy this content..

[@daleanthony4343]

You seem to know all who are doped and whoose not too

[@cyclinghighlights]

Specially Who not jajaja

[@edwardspan396]

Not since the Rat won stage 17 had we seen a day so ridiculous as that TT.

[@ccjelley2390]

Give me the 90s any time - and with none of those stupid, pointless masks on show.

[@AdamPepeWerderits]

Mask wearing should be punished

[@TerranigmaQuintet]

@@AdamPepeWerderits Come and try to take it off from me, I can garantuee u wont like the result of doing so.

[@hansemannluchter643]

​@@TerranigmaQuintetYou sound vaccinated. And boosted..

[@switch1237]

I would like a video about Froome please. 🦋👍👏💐💐💐💐💐

[@davess61]

I must have watched this a dozen times. Love it

[@cyclinghighlights]

Thanks. 2024 Season will have a lot of videos in the channel!

[@TheLittleHouses10]

Thank you for creating such a well researched investigation. It is great to see so many clean athletes highlighted that did not use motors to break performance limits in pro-cycling. All from getting the basics just right! In this tour it seemed as there was zero evidence of any rule breaking. Unfortunately, the 90's TDF game of spot the cheat is dead! No longer are we treated to the luxury of multiple bike changes that allow riders to go uphill faster! Long live the clean tour heros! 🙂 So nice to see such a clean & dominant performance in La Veulta as well. Made me laugh - thanks!

[@emilioroman9853]

It’s not well investing and it’s a video that dishonors cycling and modern athletes in general, get your facts straight

[@TheLittleHouses10]

What part isn't right - elaborate! What dishonours cycling - your comment doesn't make sense as written!@@emilioroman9853

[@philg7889]

I like Clipping In, but this is fun. Subscribed!

[@donwinston]

Jealousy and envy are not a virtues.

[@cyclinghighlights]

Of course, we're jealous. My Dream as a Kid was winning a cycling race.

[@tawalali]

The best video I have seen this year, bar none

[@stephenjhughes64stephenjhu26]

Like a cartoon pro cycling. What's up Doc!!

[@drewbuffington]

Shots fired

[@Tarmaccyclocross]

The bikes are actually heavier than bikes from 10 years ago

[@blackstrobe69]

is there any pro cyclist you actually like unironically? :)

[@jeremyclarkson9025]

I swear you hate Riis😂

[@cyclinghighlights]

Probably it's my favourite rider ever

[@SlobodanSchumacher]

Cycling is the best and the most complex sport. F1 is competition among drivers and technological firms. But cycling is far more complex- there is competition in many more fields: best cyclist, best tech doping, best bio doping etc.

[@RB..1]

Where can we buy the Jumbo Juice?

[@veloblox]

Packet of Duracells at your local hardware store

[@bradhhaan]

Jasper is definitely a bully who rode lines that at best were grey. But isn’t that the sport? If you’re not on the absolute edge of everything at all times you just lose. So then you either win and get called a bully or lose as a gentleman

[@cyclinghighlights]

You could win as a gentleman too, such as Indurain

[@roadcyclist1]

There is no place for sissies on the winner podium. You either man up and do whatever is necessary or you bow out in defeat to be forgotten forever.

[@TerranigmaQuintet]

@@cyclinghighlights Indurain wasn't a spriner though, in that category a ton of them were bullies and went over the line , Jasper is just one of the new generation of bullies in sprint.

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

@@roadcyclist1that's why, in the women's race, the podium is always vacant. They can't man up. Brilliant logic 🙄

[@roadcyclist1]

@@TiagoMorbusSa no idea what you are blabbering about.

[@SlobodanSchumacher]

David Walsh said that nowadays it is possible to win Tour without doping 😂 dementia probably

[@stuartmisfeldt3068]

Jordi the chicken boy 😂😅😂😅😂😅🎉!

[@rexmundi273]

Microdosage of testosterone, growth hormone (hGH), cortisone. Blood transfusions before every Mountain and ITT stages.

[@tannerslomko]

Jonas Vingegaard 🤝 Cycling Highlights Infernal Pace

[@cyclinghighlights]

Mate, thank you so much!!

[@chivacetana]

Compair the giro to the tour. I say let ‘em’ dope! Its good for cycling. Just like the NFL

[@toroddlnning6806]

have you seen floyd landis stage 17

[@cyclinghighlights]

Disneylandis was my favourite kid show after Riis in Disneyland 97

[@paul_rider]

The anti thinning hair sponsored shampoo gangster 🤣

[@anderssanggaard6215]

I honestly cant tell if this is just sarcasm or double sarcasm.

[@SpiritualStuntman]

Your videos are always the highlight post race lol thank you for pointing out the obvious. I have asked myself this for years. I’m on a new bike. Why don’t I go so fast?😂😂😂

[@pinnaclewd]

Never seen such a suspect TT in my life. 3 minutes out of WvA in JUST 22km is ...... a performance difficult to believe. Even 1.38 on Pog given the drop of around 20 seconds for a bike change is more than head scratching! Corruption runs deep unfortunately!

[@robertzimmermann9710]

I was also stunned but there are indeed several aspects that explain parts(!) of Vingegaards performance fully without doping. The course was very technical and difficult to ride. You can see, that Jonas gained dozends of seconds to Pogacar solely due to his better bike handling in many sections, especially the curves. Vingegaard had the better overall aerodynamic position and style, and the choice not to change the bike might have to be reanalyzed by experts since it seems, this was crucial. Also all the other Top5-riders didn't come close to Jonas' skills on this day. If he had performed that on a flat standardized course with this time, doping would have also been my first thought but here, things are more complicated by far.

[@roadcyclist1]

@robertzimmermann9710 not complicated at all..he out doped them.

[@robertzimmermann9710]

@@roadcyclist1 Man, I tried to give a comprehensive analysis with reasonable points and all you have to say is: "DOPED!". Sorry, that's poor. I also have my doubts but there are objective facts that explain portions of Vingegaards performance at least that day. That's a fact.

[@robertzimmermann9710]

@@roadcyclist1 It was complicated. Just see the direct comparison on youtube where you can clearly see the degree of risk and optimal routing Jonas puts into his effort.

[@basquat76]

I'm not saying Vinge isn't doped, but do you honestly think that Pogi and WVA isn't also doped? We have two teams were every rider is somehow better then everyone else. Mikkel Bjerg this giant oaf a rider is pulling the entire peleton over mountains, and only the best mountain climbers can hang on. This is just history repeating itself. Take out UAE and JV and we would have an interesting race.