How Obi-Wan Found Out Anakin Survived | Both Ways

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The Stupendous Wave

The Stupendous Wave

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@sergiomunoz5594
@sergiomunoz5594 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in the EU, he learned of Vader’s survival through a hologram at a Cantina, or a poster, can’t really remember that far back. But man this, this scene of his realization was as hurtful as Ahsoka finding out about Anakin during Rebels.
@jedigamer9935
@jedigamer9935 2 жыл бұрын
It was over the Holonet news after Vader defeated Jedi survivors of the purge. Darth Vader novel.
@MrLethalShots
@MrLethalShots 2 жыл бұрын
@@jedigamer9935 Is this novel canon or legends?
@Sirberrypaw
@Sirberrypaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrLethalShots legends
@FireandIce0386
@FireandIce0386 2 жыл бұрын
What i was more surprised about it that the inquisitors knew Vaders true identity. Thought that Vader erased anyone from the past that had possible knowledge about that, except for a few individuals offcourse
@edstringer1138
@edstringer1138 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@trenhen4311
@trenhen4311 2 жыл бұрын
She was a padiwan and that’s why she knows he was Vader. In that beginning clip she was one of the kids at the Jedi temple. Vader probably doesn’t suspect anything but if she was there she probably heard some rumours and found out somehow.
@ckennedy1973
@ckennedy1973 2 жыл бұрын
Reva is a Mary Sue. She knows everything 🫤
@Engine33Truck
@Engine33Truck 2 жыл бұрын
I think she knows because she has intentions of overthrowing him and replacing him as the Emperor’s apprentice. Knowing that many of the inquisitors were once Jedi, it’d be natural for Vader to go to great lengths to prevent them from knowing his true identity. She might know this because she intends to be more than an inquisitor. Hence how she was also able to find Obi-Wan when not even Vader could. Finding Obi-Wan and bringing him in would win favor with Vader and help her get into a position to where she can eliminate him. Most importantly, in her mind, bringing in Obi-Wan will curry favor with Sidious
@jtbsen457
@jtbsen457 2 жыл бұрын
She knew Obi Wan and Bail had a link, she said she found in the archives, it’s very likely she saw the security footage of Palpatine giving Anakin the name Vader
@zzCaptHowdy
@zzCaptHowdy 2 жыл бұрын
He's heard the name before .. " gone the boy you trained is .. consumed by Darth Vader" while viewing the holos in ep 3
@mark_thurwanger
@mark_thurwanger 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not the issue; it’s the fact that Reva somehow knows this secret. Literally no one except Palpatine and their guards are supposed to know this secret. Both in Legends and Cannon. So this is just extremely lazy writing and lack of knowledge of the source material.
@Donray92
@Donray92 2 жыл бұрын
I'd subscribe to a version of the first theory: Obi-wan knew very well that Anakin gained the title of Vader and had heard of this figure Vader existing in the Empire after Obi-wan's and Anakin's duel, but he might have been in enough denial to think that just maybe Sidious found a replacement for Anakin and the title of Lord Vader was passed on.
@zt.v6928
@zt.v6928 2 жыл бұрын
I sustain this theory, exactly what i was telling myself before i read your comment... The realisator has to give an explanation for this, no way... Btw, i've edited the scene of this moment (Obi-Wan discovering the truth/Vader first appearance), come by my channel SW fans
@Robbie28
@Robbie28 2 жыл бұрын
He heard the name Vader in Episode 3 also and knew it was Anakin cause Yoda even mentioned it to him
@matthewgraybeal3241
@matthewgraybeal3241 2 жыл бұрын
He was in hiding, Magneto style. This was about the worst news he could get. Their bond, would be reawakened if he used the force...and he had to, for Leia...
@louiejc
@louiejc 2 жыл бұрын
There is a third possibility. This third possibility is that Obi Wan knew Anakin survived their duel and that the man in the suit, Darth Vader, was Anakin. The dread on Obi Wan's face follows from his realization that Vader has confirmation that Obi Wan is alive. Before this moment, Obi Wan can derive at least in part a feeling that he and Luke are both "safe."
@TheAirForceFly
@TheAirForceFly 2 жыл бұрын
Obi wan hasn't seen the suit Vader yet. He is not as known publicly atleast to this point
@louiejc
@louiejc 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAirForceFly so he hasn't seen the suit. That does not mean he does not suspect Vader survived. Those are two different data points.
@TheAirForceFly
@TheAirForceFly 2 жыл бұрын
@@louiejc no im saying. A lot of the outer rim systems probably don't know who Vader is. Atleast obi wan knows who it was. In my opinion I doubt he has heard the name again sense the duel. Its 10 years after. Rebels start like 3 to 5 years later if not sooner and I can't recall kannan or ezra knowing. Hell ashoka is around and didn't know about Vader in the suit.
@TheAirForceFly
@TheAirForceFly 2 жыл бұрын
@@louiejc by knowing I mean about Vader in reference to kannan and ezra
@ronnellroyall9024
@ronnellroyall9024 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get chills from the shift of obi wan finding out to showing vader
@nate8604
@nate8604 2 жыл бұрын
What’s also funny is that Ewan Mcgregor said he doesn’t fully believe the show takes place a full ten years after episode lll. So I agree Stupendous Wave, I don’t believe Obi-Wan went a decade without knowing Vader survived their battle on Mustafar.
@iruleandyoudont9
@iruleandyoudont9 2 жыл бұрын
Leia is 10 so
@nate8604
@nate8604 2 жыл бұрын
@@iruleandyoudont9 yeah. I just do think it’s odd he went that long without knowing Anakin was alive still.
@SchmuckAmok
@SchmuckAmok 2 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan was keeping his head down and wasn’t involved with galactic events. Vader was off doing the Empire’s bidding. Their paths just hadn’t crossed before this show
@warrior.4895
@warrior.4895 2 жыл бұрын
@@SchmuckAmok It really is as simple as that. Seriously these channels are looking for problems were there're none to find. The show is 'PG/13'. Isn't meant to be rocket science.
@bigfootmenaceormisundersto1479
@bigfootmenaceormisundersto1479 2 жыл бұрын
@@SchmuckAmok Guess that's what we'll have to go with. Still, I have a hard time believing that Obi-Wan was aware enough about current events to know about the Inquisitors but never once hear the name Darth Vader being mentioned in 10 years. Great scene for Ewan, but strains credibility a bit much for me.
@marshalllatta2073
@marshalllatta2073 2 жыл бұрын
Obi wan can belly breathe that was a huge scene
@0errab0
@0errab0 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not upset that they reconned the way Obi-Wan learned that Vader\Anakin was alive and well in the least. Now we all got to see in live action the moment that Kenobi realized that he truly failed Anakin. If you think about it, Kenobi left Anakin to suffer and die slowly being burned away, instead of just striking him down with this lightsaber or force pushing him into the lava. I personal think that Kenobi wanted Anakin to suffer and feel all the pain that he inflicted on Kenobi and the Jedi Order 10 fold, until he burned away in that lava. In a brief moment of anger, Kenobi let the darkness in and decided that Anakin needed to burn slowly. The on screen reaction from Kenobi shows me that my theory may be correct.
@peterlucus2062
@peterlucus2062 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think in any of the Star Wars canon that there is an indication that Obi-Wan ever had to struggle with a desire for someone else to suffer. Even when Maul killed Satine which is probably the other height of emotional trauma that he went through besides Anakin. There's no indication that Obi-Wan wanted Anakin to suffer. There's every indication to suggest that he just didn't want to kill his brother as he told Yoda.
@davida.2947
@davida.2947 2 жыл бұрын
As Kenobi isn’t a sith and doesn’t necessarily know how the naming works I think it’s possible that he heard Vader’s name, thought Anakin was dead and thought that maybe another Vader had been put in his place. Perhaps he really was surprised to find out that Vader was still Anakin.
@dennisreynolds9202
@dennisreynolds9202 2 жыл бұрын
I like it. I give it 8.5 our of 10. Storyline pretty good, action pretty damn good.
@greenmanalishi6963
@greenmanalishi6963 2 жыл бұрын
The show has a lot of flaws
@dennisreynolds9202
@dennisreynolds9202 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenmanalishi6963 every show has its flaw. It's best to watch before going in Judging ary little detail.
@DoylePrime
@DoylePrime 2 жыл бұрын
I think his 'surprise' at the information was more based on her calling him Anakin instead of vader. Meaning possibly that 3rd sister was more impressed by the surviving anakin than by the triumphant vader. This could also imply that she was one of the surviving order 66 younglings that was turned and inspired by anakin that day instead of killed. Maybe anakins 2nd apprentice?
@robdixson196
@robdixson196 2 жыл бұрын
It could be he knew of Anakins existence but in that moment he had a connection with Anakin and actually FELT his presence. It's a big difference intelectually knowing something and experiencing it. Plot wise the importance is now Vader also knows Kenobi is alive beyond any doubt.
@jaredekelman4229
@jaredekelman4229 2 жыл бұрын
Obi-wan Already Heard of Vader in Revenge of the Sith When He Saw the Hologram of Anakin Kneeling Before Sidious and Sidious then Said: You've Done Well Lord Vader! Now, Go and Bring Peace to the Empire! Then Obi-wan Said: I Can't Watch This Anymore! Then Yoda Said: Destroy the Sith We Must! So There You Go!
@andrewzahorsky7050
@andrewzahorsky7050 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Ben thought that it was an imposter in a mask and suit claiming to be Vader, with Kenobi believing 100% Anakin died on Mustaphar but in Obi-Wan came to the force realization it really was Anakin and then the shock revelation was his reaction…
@gjcart26
@gjcart26 2 жыл бұрын
Andre I agree. More failure hits Kenobi in that moment. Kenobi is haunted by what he had to do to Anakin. He assumed he died on mustifar. He realized he should have finished what Yoda asked him to do. Kenobi assumed vader was an imposter. He knew with training Jedi could be killed off like General Grievous did in the past...Kenobi is broken ... This show has been so good
@bryanperez4061
@bryanperez4061 2 жыл бұрын
I thought back to the comics since this was definitely a retcon
@bushwookie69s
@bushwookie69s 2 жыл бұрын
My question is how did the information about orgona and obi wan having a connection get into the archives. Seems like a big stretch if you ask me
@Onii-chan_choso
@Onii-chan_choso 2 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure the inquisitor reva is the one of the padawans in the order 66 scene i could be wrong but if so its not hard to know of his connection with the jedi/obi wan being a former jedi/padawan
@mark_thurwanger
@mark_thurwanger 2 жыл бұрын
@@Onii-chan_choso highly unlikely, she would be far too old to be a padawan even 10 years younger.
@bushwookie69s
@bushwookie69s 2 жыл бұрын
@@Onii-chan_choso i didn’t think about that. That’s actually the best answer I’ve heard to my question
@africangamerr
@africangamerr 2 жыл бұрын
If you watched the episode you definitely know he didn’t know Anakin Was alive turned into vadar
@michaelmacleod7051
@michaelmacleod7051 2 жыл бұрын
One explaination I could see is that in Episode 3 Obi Wans hears the Emperor restyle Anakin as Darth Vader. Shortly later Obi Wan leaves Anakin for dead and flees to Tatoonie. When he later hears the name Darth Vader used in passing as Vaders public reputation increases throughout the galaxy he might have arrived at the conclusion that Anakin could not have possibly survived and therefore the Emperor must have recruited another fallen Jedi and gave them the same title, similar to how there's been many Duke of Yorks.
@coreystephenson7329
@coreystephenson7329 2 жыл бұрын
I was aggravated at the opening scene of order 66 where a light saber doesn't completely cut through clone troopers.
@CaptainArn
@CaptainArn 2 жыл бұрын
The point he brought up about how Obi-Wan is unlikely to have heard of Vader if everyone on Tatooine is familiar with what the Inquisitors are up to, is literally one of the first things I thought. It's pretty ordinary writing honestly. That part I mean. Positive feelings about the first 2 eps at large.
@LK-bn2jd
@LK-bn2jd 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Yoda straight say "gone is the boy you trained consumed by Darth Vader" in episode 3
@logtothebase2
@logtothebase2 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, the scene made me think, "how can this be news" but the hiding and and hiding from himself angle is credible, what is important is that this story can only go so far as the sequel has been written , and episode 3 is the cardinal work in the whole thing, you really can't mess with it, the only victory available in this series is absence of outright defeat, The Skywalker twins remain unknown to the enemy and Obi Wan is off grid at the conclusion, His defeat by Vader at the start of that trilogy also needs to make sense as Obi -Wan accepts quite easily what looks to be even more utterly demoralising defeat in the context of the personal history and the situation at the time.
@chazo-taylor539
@chazo-taylor539 2 жыл бұрын
I mean he has been living in a cave for 10 years, don’t know how he could find out
@g00z
@g00z 2 жыл бұрын
He's been cut off from the force for 10 years scared to even use it incase anyone is able to sense him. He may have heard of lord Vader but wasn't sure it was anakin as he left him for dead. It could have been palatine mocking the Jedi or even some sort of droid which was a rumour anyway. After hearing he was alive for the first time and having just used to force to save Leia, for the first time he allows himself to try to sense him in the force. This is when Vader opens his eyes and senses him back. Obi wan will have sensed Vader's anger and Vader sensed Obi wan fear. Obi wan is worried for himself but also for the two children he has to protect
@patrickperalta59
@patrickperalta59 2 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan heared Palatine tell Anakin he would from that point on be known as Darth Vader and over the 10 years since Obi-Wan thought Anikin died after their battle untill seeing the broadcast in the Cantina...but was still not believeing it so he was in Deinal until Reva Confermed it.. and Obi-Wan had to accept it was true after all.
@NikolaiJ628
@NikolaiJ628 2 жыл бұрын
He heard Vaders name at end of Revenge of the Sith with Yoda when they was reviewing the footage of the camera so he definitely knew they were the same person.
@JutienneSkywalker
@JutienneSkywalker 2 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan and Yoda was the first to know from the start that anakin is darth or lord vader, they have seen it on the cam footy and yoda also tells obi-wan ,that boy you have trained gone he is, consumed by darth vader. He(obiwan) was just in shock because obiwan thought anakin died when he left him for dead on mustafar.
@cyspiegel8603
@cyspiegel8603 2 жыл бұрын
6:00 ...I take umbrage with the phrase "cybernetic monstrosity". 😤🤬
@jflariosm
@jflariosm 2 жыл бұрын
Yoda mentions Darth Vader to Kenobi in episode III after the discovering of the recordings at the jedi temple
@felixnimo
@felixnimo 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Vader knew that Obi-Wan was in exile on Tatooine since 9 BBY but chose to not go there because he doesn't like sand (especially considering that the sand would go everywhere inside his suit now) 😬
@fasthackm
@fasthackm 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know,, how exactly was Luke able to enter one of the Jeffrey tubes, when he lept from the scafolding (trying to exit from Vader's grasp), in the Empire Strikes Back. Did he use the force or was it mechanical?
@drifter139
@drifter139 2 жыл бұрын
very likely the force. by this point, Luke had some training in the force and while not as strong as later versions, he would have been able to do it regardless
@Rand_al_Thor372
@Rand_al_Thor372 2 жыл бұрын
...ummmm what's a Jeffrey tube??
@Longchain69
@Longchain69 2 жыл бұрын
Script. Probably force.
@SchmuckAmok
@SchmuckAmok 2 жыл бұрын
I always took it that those things sucked up things that fell and disposed them
@davida.2947
@davida.2947 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the Jeffrey’s tube reference. That’s funny. Totally the force though. No question about that. We’ve seen Jedi jump like that elsewhere.
@Djarra
@Djarra 2 жыл бұрын
Although things change the fact that Vader is unknown on Tattooine is consistent with Ep4. Obi-Wan says “A jedi by the name of Darth Vader… betrayed and murdered your father” Luke seems unfamiliar with the name. However later Han and as far as you can tell Chewy do know and fear Vader.
@Mr.Gizzmo
@Mr.Gizzmo 2 жыл бұрын
How TF would reva know anakin is Vader? no one does except a very small amount of people and I Highly doubt the Inquisitors would.
@YungSivvy
@YungSivvy 2 жыл бұрын
My personal theory is she was there, at the temple during order 66 and heard or saw a clone call him Vader.
@a.wilkerson2nd334
@a.wilkerson2nd334 2 жыл бұрын
There are some channels that are bitxhing about this show, but I thought it was a great start. They actually were complaining about Leia being woke and bossy, when in actuality to me she acts like the daughter of anakin and padme. She reminded me of both of them. That lil girls performance was excellent
@GunDoctorTV
@GunDoctorTV 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@baconmanog1462
@baconmanog1462 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the cliff hanger we got left on
@tylerprinz1997
@tylerprinz1997 2 жыл бұрын
They need to make one about yoda or obi-wan master when they were younger
@TWINSUNS91
@TWINSUNS91 2 жыл бұрын
I feel a lot of people are mis-understating that this scene is supposed to show Obi-wan finding out that Anakin is Vader. However as he already knows I think it's either your first option or your first option with the added fact that Obi-wan hasn't actually heard the name Vader since ROTS.
@andrewbunch6599
@andrewbunch6599 2 жыл бұрын
I will love it if they end this show with the destruction of aldaran from bail organas pov since it opened with order 66
@thomashobbes8786
@thomashobbes8786 2 жыл бұрын
Watches security recording of Palpatine calling Anakin “Lord Vader.” Kenobi 10 years later: “What do you mean Vader is Anakin!?!”
@patrickperalta59
@patrickperalta59 2 жыл бұрын
Tatooine is a strange planet. both Anikin and Luke hated living there and both said they would never come back to the planet but Anakin did return to try and save his mother and Luke Came back to rescue Han. so both were wrong and both came back to Tatooine.
@threefeetoffun
@threefeetoffun 2 жыл бұрын
I always think back to what Joss Whedon said about the Buffy comics. They are all canon unless something live action changes it. I think it is now officially changed.
@felixnimo
@felixnimo 2 жыл бұрын
2:33 | No, he wasn't in the first years of the Empire because the Inquisitors and of course the Stormtroopers were mostly used by the Empire for public Jedi hunts 🧐
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 2 жыл бұрын
That reveal was awesome, but how did the Inquisition find out Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker was the same person?
@Phil-D83
@Phil-D83 2 жыл бұрын
How is that inquisitor still alive? Lol
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phil-D83 she had a strategically good plan for exposing Obi-Wan, but her failure would’ve gotten her killed by Darth Vader
@Phil-D83
@Phil-D83 2 жыл бұрын
@@macwelch8599 typically when someone finds out that vader is anakin, they dont last long. Might be specific to the comics or legends,etc
@jokingback3000
@jokingback3000 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they say more about this, but from what I hear, she has mind reading powers
@AYEUGOTTTREE
@AYEUGOTTTREE 2 жыл бұрын
@@Phil-D83 bruhh exactly!!! I was like Wtff how does this person know this
@andrewbarbarash3116
@andrewbarbarash3116 2 жыл бұрын
In Rebels the Crew didn't know who Vader was (the name Vader) when they encountered him... And they weren't hiding on a desert planet avoiding the force.
@Timber_wolf85
@Timber_wolf85 2 жыл бұрын
The other version is hearing about Anakin being Lord Vader on the holonet in Tatooine.
@Timber_wolf85
@Timber_wolf85 2 жыл бұрын
Jeffery tube?
@keithsterling433
@keithsterling433 2 жыл бұрын
this is how i see obiwan learning about vader. this is from a certain point of view, obiwan learned that anakin has become darth vader from the security tapes at the jedi temple. so in way darth vader killed anakin, then obiwan believe he had killed varder. it was not until reva the third sister reveal to obiwan that vader was still alive and just incase he did not know anakin is darth vader. that is how i explain revenge of the sith to episode 2 of the obiwan series. so the shock looked on obiwan face is more about anakin/vader being alive. so to reva she thinks she is the first to tell obiwan that vader is alive and he was once anakin skywalker. revea not knowing that obiwan already knew that vader was anakin.
@ckennedy1973
@ckennedy1973 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t care about the plot armor. That scene in the end of episode 2 when Vader’s eyes flash open ⚔️
@Kaden10
@Kaden10 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Obi-Wan just didn't believe it, and maybe he didn't want to believe that his friend had been subjected to a fate worse than death.
@lordofpain3476
@lordofpain3476 2 жыл бұрын
Disney knows absolutely nothing about Star Wars . Everything that Kathleen Kennedy touches instantly turns to sh÷t .
@TheRealPoeticNinja
@TheRealPoeticNinja 2 жыл бұрын
It really frustrating the number of things that Disney forgets already happened in the films or even TV shows......And add their own less impactful version because reasons.....Where is there Lore Master do they even have one or do then need a new one?
@ravenkahne8484
@ravenkahne8484 2 жыл бұрын
Something I've wondered about. In order for a Sith to have a red lightsaber, they have to "make the crystal bleed". If Anankin killed younglings in the Jedi Temple, why didn't it turn red before his battle with Obi-wan?
@gojidoh
@gojidoh 2 жыл бұрын
Because that's not how it worked when ROTS came out lol
@a.wilkerson2nd334
@a.wilkerson2nd334 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah making kyber crystals "bleed" is a new thing Disney did. The sith used to create their own synthetic kyber crystals to which produced the red hue
@ravenkahne8484
@ravenkahne8484 2 жыл бұрын
@@a.wilkerson2nd334 OK, was curious if there was a Legends explanation for lightsaber colors. Didn't know the bleeding thing was a retcon.
@ericramirez2608
@ericramirez2608 2 жыл бұрын
Aside from retconing reasons, you have to hold the crystal in your hand and focus your hate into it. Just holding the lightsaber wouldn’t be enough.
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 2 жыл бұрын
You have to purposefully make the crystal bleed by pouring your anguish and hatred into it to change the color. Anakin didn't know he could do this prior to the battle with Obi-Wan.
@paulbrill3668
@paulbrill3668 2 жыл бұрын
got a question. what is your top 5 what ifs you could be? if you could place yourself in anytime and anywhere the star wars galaxy. what would they be,😊 and of course all different types of people and places. peace
@kirkbolas4985
@kirkbolas4985 2 жыл бұрын
How did Obi-Wan travel off Tatooine without a chain code?
@PhantomSnoman
@PhantomSnoman 2 жыл бұрын
Obi wan just can’t get the Jill *K thing down
@coreystephenson7329
@coreystephenson7329 2 жыл бұрын
I think, as you said, that he assumed Vader was Anakin but this was the first time anyone verified the assumption.
@levikittles1720
@levikittles1720 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't assume, he knows m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4STdHhvrqadjdU
@hyrulianhero9004
@hyrulianhero9004 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that Obi-wan assumed that Anakin died, and the stories of 'Lord Vader' he heard, were just propaganda. That Sidious was spreading tales of 'Lord Vader' as a way to create fear, by making it seem like he was still alive. But when Reva said "You didn't know?" "He's still alive" Obi-wan realized the truth.
@Dreamybloo101
@Dreamybloo101 2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty surprising of Obi-Wan of figuring out anakin is still alive dude
@strongislandzfinest23
@strongislandzfinest23 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that was disappointed with the show so far ??? The scene in the cantina from legends the rise of Darth Vader would've been much better
@mark_thurwanger
@mark_thurwanger 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not alone, this has been such a letdown so far.
@greenmanalishi6963
@greenmanalishi6963 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@levikittles1720
@levikittles1720 2 жыл бұрын
He new anakin was vader from starwars episode 3 revenge of the sith. When obi wan and yoda entered the jedi temple they saw a hologram of sidious calling ankain vader. Yoda then precedes to say to obi wan that "gone the boy you trained is... consumed by darth vader" this is in the movie. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4STdHhvrqadjdU
@greenmanalishi6963
@greenmanalishi6963 2 жыл бұрын
The show has a lot of flaws
@DaVincidevil
@DaVincidevil 2 жыл бұрын
Obi wan didn’t live in the public empire. He lived in the outer rim, and away from everyone he could, except when he worked. so him barely learning vader survived from Reva makes a bit of sense.
@qjo5158
@qjo5158 2 жыл бұрын
Your over thinking this dude, it's a retcon, it's not the first time hearing vader, but tattooine WOULDN'T have had the tech for the legends explanation, this is first time, he's learning of this, and yes obi wan just reconnected, that was vader sensing such at the end.
@danielordonez412
@danielordonez412 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he saw him in Riva's mind.
@NBKVamp
@NBKVamp 2 жыл бұрын
Nice haha I’m freshly new
@rayden120
@rayden120 2 жыл бұрын
That depends on if the book Darth Vader rise of the Dark Lord I think that's what it's called in the epilogue you detailed that's how he learned of Vader he saw him on a halonet. But there is a strong argument that yeah after a ten-year Gap why would the Empire keep Vader and Secret for that long but then again maybe Kenobi it's just trying to stay away from the public areas and didn't watch the halonet
@keirangrant1607
@keirangrant1607 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched the first 2 episodes and they seem a little too contrived. There's no way Obi-Wan wouldnt have known Anakin was still alive. Makes no sense to me. I dont like the acting or the story but we will see how it goes.
@VoldoronGaming
@VoldoronGaming 2 жыл бұрын
This is also stupid. certainly he could have felt Darth Vader through the force years before this and if not definitely Master Yoda and would have told Kenobi. I mean he felt order 66 through the force as it happened.
@peterroberts7684
@peterroberts7684 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin Alive and well??? ,well that would be debatable ..
@pikedagger
@pikedagger 2 жыл бұрын
There is no rhyme or reason why Reva hates Kenobi so much.
@kingjoesnowww
@kingjoesnowww 2 жыл бұрын
Probably cause they haven’t shown why so give it time
@ScarletImp
@ScarletImp 2 жыл бұрын
I can think of one reason, or two: She was a child when Order 66 went down. She saw her classmates slaughtered, some who might have been her best friends. She saw her whole world fall apart. Obi-Wan Kenobi, the hero of the galaxy, one of the most legendary Jedi of all time...couldn't stop this. He couldn't save any of them. And worse, his own apprentice is Darth Vader, the man who helped screw over the galaxy. As she sees it, Obi-Wan is the reason why everything's so screwed up right now. She's so twisted up in her own pain and anger that she can't see past it.
@pikedagger
@pikedagger 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScarletImp that sounds plausible but there needs to be a backstory to support that. I hope that is not left hanging. It would give more credibility to the character. As of now Reva is just as much a nothing as “Rey” is still.
@ericramirez2608
@ericramirez2608 2 жыл бұрын
So far it implies that it is more about getting kenobi would bring praise from Vader.
@rabbitsfoot8
@rabbitsfoot8 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus give it time
@TheMightyCookieShow
@TheMightyCookieShow 2 жыл бұрын
Reva told him
@Messothelioma
@Messothelioma 2 жыл бұрын
this is definitely him confirming Anakin is still alive, but reva has no right to say that and vader better cut her down in the series.
@freelancenerd4804
@freelancenerd4804 2 жыл бұрын
I think the parkor was amazing for 2007.
@bangla996
@bangla996 2 жыл бұрын
honestly im ok if they retcon some of these issues, it would be difficult to tell a compelling story for this series if they didnt. fingers crossed!
@mark_thurwanger
@mark_thurwanger 2 жыл бұрын
The story is already compelling the way it is, now they are just deliberately fucking it up.
@willr7849
@willr7849 2 жыл бұрын
Was luke even ten in these two episodes? I didn’t get the ten year number.
@mattkleman7876
@mattkleman7876 2 жыл бұрын
That book did say he learned of him at the end of it. The show changed it, cuz, ya know, money
@mattkleman7876
@mattkleman7876 2 жыл бұрын
Did y’all read the book? Prob not. Younglings.
@luistorres8321
@luistorres8321 2 жыл бұрын
So the death of the gran Inquisitor has been rebooted I guess? Or redone I’m not sure. All I know it was a terrible way to in the inquisitors roll
@maxa0207
@maxa0207 2 жыл бұрын
He survived Cus he’s on rebels
@afortinsky
@afortinsky 2 жыл бұрын
Please give it a few days before dropping a major plot point. Even the title gives it away.
@cybercypher7168
@cybercypher7168 2 жыл бұрын
Watch episode 2. There
@Disturbedfan077
@Disturbedfan077 2 жыл бұрын
It still doesn't explain how some random ass Inquisitor knew who Vader used to be....outside of a few Jedi survivors and Palps himself NO ONE knew who Vader used to be. I think that particular rewrite is stupid.
@CellUnlockExpress
@CellUnlockExpress 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on the real Kenobi series, didn't enjoy Reva and Leías excellent adventure.
@RedBang14
@RedBang14 2 жыл бұрын
There are some issues in this show already. I feel like this will be a disaster. Vader and obi shouldn’t fight again. How did Reva and the others know who Vader was? We were told it was a VERY few who knew. Tarkin??? Didn’t even know. He speculates but if tarkin didn’t even know why would the inquisitors know? They werent even liked by the emperor. Obi heard the recording where anakin was told to “rise lord Vader.” They’re are messing with the lore now. They are screwing things up
@USMC0331
@USMC0331 2 жыл бұрын
There's a whole in this theory as Reva knows who Vader is and she allegedly knows this as she was a kid who saw anakin kill all the kids in the Temple so she puts 1 and 1 together. So how couldn't Kenobi do the same as he left Anakin alive not really knowing if he survived and knew the Emperor was landing. So when the picture of Vader in the cantina he should know for sure Anakin was Vader. Reva wouldn't know who Vader really was if she did she would of been dead. Just say Obi-Wan series is just horrible and stop making excuses for the lack of effort put into the plot and horrible acting.
@somanathsuren1025
@somanathsuren1025 2 жыл бұрын
Star wars part 1 new hope I want in Tamil
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 2 жыл бұрын
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
@zipfelklatscher1685
@zipfelklatscher1685 2 жыл бұрын
Like it or not the tv shows are canon the books don´t matter as soon there is a television form frome it everything else is just fiction and wishfull thinking. Disney won embrase the dark side and forsake the light the books gave to u.
@breezee8399
@breezee8399 2 жыл бұрын
First 🎉
@thatbruh0429
@thatbruh0429 2 жыл бұрын
Second!
@Lockout469
@Lockout469 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatbruh0429 Third
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 2 жыл бұрын
It's on I was distracted.
@muhammedbenobaid2936
@muhammedbenobaid2936 2 жыл бұрын
fourth 😂
@ivararnesoleim2483
@ivararnesoleim2483 2 жыл бұрын
Second
@flatbill2
@flatbill2 2 жыл бұрын
How would it make sense to separate and hide the twins from Vader if Obi-Wan thought Anakin was dead? In episode 3 Yoda and Obi-Wan and Bail had to have known Vader was alive to make that assumption.
@TeachMeBert
@TeachMeBert 2 жыл бұрын
Even if they had thought that Anakin was dead, they knew that Palpatine still wasn't. So splitting Luke and Leia up and hiding them would also have been to protect them from being found by Palpatine.
@Biyobi.
@Biyobi. 2 жыл бұрын
The kids were bound to have a very high midichlorian count and hiding them from the Emperor would still be a top concern.
@PUR3xNinjaz
@PUR3xNinjaz 2 жыл бұрын
my god how many times do you repeat yourself in every video you do jees its annoying
@john8219
@john8219 2 жыл бұрын
you are looking to much into this. the show is bad and has major plot holes the writers are idiots and didn't think to do any research into star wars lore or even worse they just don't care. take the Grand Inquisitor he dies by reva but how is this possible when he dies in Rebels kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5-adXuqqtV3gLs
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