Why Obi-Wan Kenobi Didn't Know Darth Vader (Anakin Skywalker) Was Alive For 10 Years! (Canon)

[@Blazecap]

I personally don’t find unbelievably in the context of this show. Obi-wan purposefully cut himself off from the force so he couldn’t find out the same way Ashoka did. Also he most definitely kept it on the down low probably not entering town and making contact with larger Tatooine society. IDK why people find it hard to believe Obi-wan wouldn’t know that information he’s not omnipotent.

[@joeysmith5074]

But how was it the Obi-Wan was talking to Qui-Gon’s force ghost ? If he was cut off from the force?

[@wickedremains2594]

There is a comic that is canon that explains how he actually learns vader lived which happens very soon after their battle. He knew for a long time

[@LaraA55]

@Blazecap I so agree...he was living the life of a hermit, far away from citizens, not speaking to people apart with Owen and not socialising in bars where he could find out information.

[@LaraA55]

@@joeysmith5074 The show most likely will reveal this

[@MyLibertyTV]

@@joeysmith5074 we haven't seen him talk to Qui-Gon, we've seen him try and fail to talk to Qui-Gon.

[@bonbonacev52]

He heard Palpatine call him My new apprentice Darth Vader. Wasn’t that right before Order 66?

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

Just after Order 66 and the temple purge

[@dianesinger9729]

It makes sense why Obi-Wan doesn't know Vader/Anakin is alive. It also makes sense that he is closely guarded secret and the fact that the Empire is not on Tatooine because it is on the outer rim and it is controlled by the Huts think about it, the Empire really has nothing to do with the Huts.

[@luisz222]

The Empire did have a presence on Tatooine in the original Star Wars though, so i’m guessing they’ll start establishing a presence on the planet following this show.

[@John316_Acts2]

Vader was the supreme commander of the imperial armed forces. The empire and hutts worked together And everyone knows who the secret inquisition is. But not the head of the military?

[@LaraA55]

I so agree

[@LaraA55]

@@luisz222 This was done to find C3PO and R2, I think

[@LaraA55]

@@John316_Acts2 Most likely it would be on a need to know basis...

[@JohnFourtyTwo]

The way I see it, just because it wasn't mentioned in a book, comic, or on screen doesn't mean they didn't have up to date news on Tatooine and other outer rim planets, it just wasn't a necessary plot point to worry about. As for everyone knowing about Vader even in real life we don't know about every high profile military official during peacetime but during wartime we get to know them like Nimitz, Halsey, MacArthur, Patton, and Bradley to name a few during WWII and Schwarzkopf during the Gulf War. I suspect the Empire considered most of their 20 year run as peacetime filled with skirmishes all over the place. After the loss of the Death Star though, they were clearly in an all out war and not just dealing with pesky pockets of insurgents all over the place, so I can understand Vader's recognition amongst the masses coming to the forefront after these events with no problem, but before that, yeah, he kept a pretty low profile but only because there wasn't a a full-scale war going on instead of some conspiracy theory that he must remain secret yada yada yada.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

This is a great analogy. But the same could be said for the police. The rank and file will be on the news but the CIA wouldn’t.

[@JohnFourtyTwo]

@@STARWARS_FANATIC Exactly! ✨🔥💥

[@annawhite1591]

@@STARWARS_FANATIC thought it made perfect sense, mean if he did know, would question how he knew,way he left him yes safe to assume he was dead easy, real problems is obi dreams and what he remembers how does he remember scenes that he wasn't around for, like young anakin flyin the n1 star fighter??

[@annawhite1591]

@@STARWARS_FANATIC it has been said force choking will crush vital stuff like wind pipe so on, so bracing fully on darkness and pure hatdred he could have over done it, and why she died from....being sad

[@michaell7800]

It's a good point about the lack of imperial presence on Tatooine, before 3PO and R2 take the escape pod in a New Hope. That never occurred to me, but now it makes alot of sense that there weren't storm troopers already on Tatooine who could have carried out the original Recon mission. Obi-wan knew Anakin had been renamed Darth Vader, because he saw it in a holo, but he believed Anakin died on Mustafar (the dude was pretty badly burned up). I don't see what inconsistency people are complaining about.

[@wickedremains2594]

Well one there is a comic that shows he learned of his existence in a tavern not long after their battle. Also how does Reeva know Darth Vaders true identity? Only 4 people canon know his true name which are Yoda, Obi-wan, the emperor and Ahsoka. Anyone else who knew or figured it out died very quickly.

[@TheSSBBfan666]

@@wickedremains2594 Thrawn and Tarkin figured it out after studying Vader for a bit, but they never brough it up to him. Also i think that comic might be getting reconned in favor of this show.

[@wickedremains2594]

@@TheSSBBfan666 Yeah but thats kinda why I left them out because they only have a theory but nothing confirmed from what I remember. They better not we have these comics and books that are canon already why shit all over them like that.

[@TheSSBBfan666]

@@wickedremains2594 who knows, but i dont think entire comic runs will be deleted as the current Vader comic where he takes over Crimson Dawn is pretty interesting.

[@Pyrooogenic]

@@wickedremains2594 That comic is not canon anymore btw

[@thomashobbes8786]

Watches security recording of Palpatine calling Anakin “Lord Vader.” Kenobi 10 years later: “What do you mean Vader is Anakin!?!”

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

He didn’t question that Anakin was Vader. He questioned how Vader could be alive.

[@thomashobbes8786]

@@STARWARS_FANATIC so Ben’s on Tatooine for 10 years and doesn’t know Vader is alive? I’ll have to rewatch the scene, but I don’t think your take-away follows from the dialogue. EDIT: Ok, I’ve rewatched the scene. It is a little ambiguous, but yes, it does seem that Obi-wan didn’t know Vader was alive…. Still seems unlikely, and now I have to rewatch the earlier scenes with Obi-wan and the Inquisitors to see if Vader was never mentioned in his presence. Sigh.

[@Darksaviour]

Makes perfect sense 1. Tatooine is in the outer rim far away from the majority of the empire 2. He laid low for 10 years and made little outside contact, even cutting himself off from the force 3. Only a very few people actually knew that Anakin and Vader where the same. And Vader was a boogeyman for the empire. To the common folk Vader was just an enforcer who hunted Jedi. So he would be know on the level of the emperor.

[@the_real_lego_commander_cody]

Wasn't he thought of as just a rumor during Rebels? It does make sense that he's unknown by Kenobi

[@Darksaviour]

@@the_real_lego_commander_cody Ya a rumour to terrify enemies of the empire. I don’t remember if Obi wan ever found out Anakin’s Sith name. He see’s the hologram but that’s about it. Edit: Saw the clip. He did know Vader was Anakin’s Sith name.

[@politicalaccountabletheory768]

He didn't know because Vador don't give press briefings .

[@LaraA55]

That is so right

[@mriforgiate]

I wouldn't say Padme "died of sad", although it sounds hilarious. There are indicators that would rather point to the idea that Padme died, because Sidious was pulling her life force out of her to give to Anakin to keep him alive in his most vulnerable time to start his healing and be able to live through having his cybernetics installed. I definitely prefer this idea over her simply giving up on life because she lost Anakin and could not follow him on his new path...

[@junior1138]

The ANH scrawl states "Sinister agents." Vader was, until this point at least, a covert operative. Later, it is revealed that the senate is no more and Vader was able to move to the fore. By ESB, we see him regarded by some of the military old guard as something of an indulgence to the Emperor, barely tolerated and inwardly scorned (Admiral Ozzel treated him with the exasperated patience of a parent with an unruly toddler) whilst the likes of Piett saw past the cute, cuddly thing and recognized him as a legitimate threat. That Calrissian addressed him as Lord Vader suggests the Empire's PR guys did some "Hearts and Minds" stuff.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

Interesting! Those are some great points.

[@junior1138]

@@STARWARS_FANATIC the whole thing is refreshingly dark.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

@@junior1138 agreed! And it’s about time

[@LaraA55]

This is an eye opener...

[@Death_To_Kong]

Luke was 19 years old and had no knowledge of darth vader. Why is it so hard to believe that OW didn’t hear about him for 10 years.

[@timbrown1834]

Yeah I think his official title was the general or commander of the imperial army. Do most normal people know who the general of the United States army is? I doubt it, unless you're in the service. Which means that only stormtroopers and imperial bureaucrats are familiar with Vader, and more as a name than a person.

[@LaraA55]

@@timbrown1834 This makes a lot of sense, thank you

[@indiana_holmes]

Everything you've stated is exactly true. It's in no way shocking that Kenobi isn't aware of Vader's survival.

[@wickedremains2594]

What about the comic that shows Kenobi finding out about Darth Vader being alive not long after their battle together?

[@indiana_holmes]

@@wickedremains2594 I'm not sure what comic you're talking about, but as far as canon is concerned, this is the first time Kenobi learns of Vader's survival. Everything else has been Legends material. The most quoted example being, 'Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader.'

[@wickedremains2594]

@@indiana_holmes Yes that is my bad it is from a book not a comic it has been a while since i read them and yes I know they are saying non of those matter even if they were canon at one point. And no as far as canon is concerned this is not canon at all it might as well be a legends story honestly.

[@indiana_holmes]

@@wickedremains2594 you may not like it, but it is established canon now.

[@wickedremains2594]

@@indiana_holmes it literally cannot be canon she knows who Vader really is which is not possible at all. It is just to inconsistent to actually be canon or overlooked.

[@Vumvee]

I’m sorry but the intergalactic news network line of questioning for Darth Vader bit was hilarious

[@MattsCollection]

There's a book which I believe falls under Legends now which is the Rise of Darth Vader. It's an excellent book and at the end it has a scene where Obi-Wan is on Tatooine and watching Owen, Beru and Luke in Mos Eisley. While there, he sees a news holo that mentions Darth Vader and he askes Qui-Gonn if it's Anakin and Qui-Gon responds that his is. Until that point, Obi-Wan thought Anakin died on Mustafar. Now from what I can tell from Episodes 1 and 2 of Kenobi, it looks like Obi-Wan has been trying to commune with Qui-Gon, but for some reason, Qui-Gon hasn't responded yet. Like you, I've always been under the understanding that Vader wasn't really known about in the galaxy at large. He's known about in the Imperial military and the Senate, but the average Joe on the outer rim isn't going to know about him. Couple that with the fact that Obi-Wan is living a very solitary life, he's not really going to know much of anything in the galaxy. Good stuff man! Glad to see you're still putting out content. My channel is getting a little too infrequent for my taste because of our upcoming move. 😀

[@LaraA55]

I so agree with you on the point that not much information would get to the outer rim and with Obi Wan leading a hermit life, he wouldn't be exposed to much at all.

[@skits_3d824]

have a question how did Leia not hear Reva shouting Obiwan Obiwan over and over again? I was watching closely and she was next to him when she cornered them at that port.

[@tarzankom]

Did Obi Wan even know that Anakin was renamed Darth Vader in Episode 3? From what I remember, during and after their fight, nobody actually used the name Darth Vader in Obi Wan's presence. I think it's completely possible that Obi Wan didn't make the connection for years.

[@rileycr0552]

Obi Wan sees the hologram in the temple where palpatine refers to anakin as vader. Yoda repeats it after too.

[@LaraA55]

@Star Wars Fanatic What you stated works for me. As I see it, Vader acted initially more like as a "secret" agent. He only completed or handled difficult jobs which the underlings wouldn't be able to do, in the 19 years of peace time before the rebellion/war took hold. And you raised a good point about Ezra, Kanan and even Ahsoka not knowing about him. From the Ahsoka novel, she couldn't feel anyone in the force and presumed Obi Wan and Anakin to be dead. Also, Obi wan was living life as a hermit, working, not talking to anyone ( well apart from Owen yelling at him) and didn't socialise in bars to find out out any exciting news in relation to the Empire. Also, Tatooine, before a New Hope was not on the Empire's radar, due to being considered of nothing of importance. So I doubt the Empire would be on the 6 pm nightly holonet news on Tatooine for Obi-Wan to watch.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

I love this comment.

[@LaraA55]

@@STARWARS_FANATIC 🤗

[@jwaynecitizen]

Most people never met or seen a Jedi up close at the height of the Republic & Jedi Order. Why would everybody know about ONE enforcer?

[@308719236]

It's crazy cause it was him not knowing which allowed him to remain hidden in the force from Vader when Reva reveals this Obi Wan loses control and immediately Vader senses his presence in the Force he wakes up and suits up

[@ianotimelord]

I've watched many reviews on this. Yours is the one that makes sense. With people moaning at how weak Kenobi is with the force...its cause he was in hiding...keeping a low profile. He starts using the force and using his lightsabre somome would notice.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

Thank you for that huge compliment! And you’re exactly right:

[@haydenjohnson492]

Devil's advocate, Leia knew about Vader in a new hope 🤷‍♂️

[@kawonOo]

I mean it's just crazy, if you've read the book Star Wars Dark lord, you know that obiwan gets the information that Vader is still alive a few weeks after order 66 when he arrived on tattoine in a bar and saw it in some kind of "news" that quote "lord Vader" or "Darth Vater" (can't remember exactly) is on kashyyyk and killed a bunch of wookies / fought wookie rebels Like how can Disney be so out of touch with Canon star wars... Edit: just saw a post that said dark lord is not really Canon anymore, just correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that had to be said

[@mr.abbott212]

I think Vader knows Kenobi didn’t kill the the GI. After beating down Kenobi, he knows this shell of a Jedi wouldn’t be able to beat him.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

I can agree with that!

[@soundshaper]

Lucas kinda screwed up his own timeline with the casting choices. Alec Guiness was 62 years old when he was first filmed performing as Obi Wan Kenobi in Ep 4, Ewan McGregor was 33 when he played Obi Wan Kenobi in Episode 3 (filmed a year before their release, mind you). There's 29 years difference in actor ages for episodes set 20 years apart. Alec looks significantly older than 20 years passing since his character defeated Anakin. I'll give Ewan credit, he only looks 10 years older than he did in Ep 3, so that works at least. Those last 10 years must've really taken a toll, lol.

[@turtlepond104]

Pretty sure they fixed that by saying that the 2 suns age people faster, which is why obiwan, Lars, and buru looked so old and why luke looked almost 30 when he was still a teen

[@Letemin]

Pretty cut and dry: He thought Anakin perished on the shores of Mustafaar. Only reason he didn't finish the job, is due to the timely (or untimely) arrival of Palpatine. Just subbed not too long ago. Loving your channel thus far.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

Thank you! I really appreciate that. Everything you said is true, but why didn’t Obi-Wan know Vader had survived?

[@Letemin]

@@STARWARS_FANATIC Kenobi cut himself off from the Force. I feel also that when Sidious was seeing to Anakin's "rebirth". He blocked Kenobi from sensing him.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

@@Letemin interesting! Thank you

[@blackskulldud57]

Okay I think I know what's going on here remember how Darth Vader said Luke I am your father oh wait he didn't he said no Luke I am your father there is a cut scene from the movie where there are clones in disguise and it's basically where Obi-Wan finds out Anakin is Darth Vader through the Holograms that him and Yoda are going through even showing the execution of Shakti by Anakin it was even in one of the Lego games but wasn't like an extra episode or anything it just acted like it was part of the movie so I think a lot of people actually took what they played as a kid in the Lego and think that they actually kept it in the movie or they saw the cut content and forgot it was cut content cuz ob1 sitting there with a surprised Pikachu face when he finds out is understandable to me.

[@kyleprice9283]

He was living in a cave, and even Ashoka when searching the force for anakin could not feel him anymore, because he felt different after everything that happened.

[@LaraA55]

exactly and such a good point you made.

[@randallpetroelje3913]

Kenobi was hiding for a very good reason. And I think that he can use the force to cry and cloak and self from Vader’s presence just to protect Luke. He stayed hidden until the time was right. Vader was just beginning to come in the power in developing the dark side

[@mrxsatyr8459]

It makes sense for Obi-Wan not to know. He basically shut himself off from everything, its not like hes on Holonet Reddit reading theories about potential sith lords when he gets home from slicing meat

[@LaraA55]

exactly

[@cripplehawk]

Obi Wan to Luke in ROTJ: "To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden from your father when you were born." I always figured Obi Wan knew Vader was still alive after his "High Ground "Treatment from the get go.

[@copperhead2694]

In ROTS Yoda says hide the children from the Sith Lord. Aka Palpatine. No mention of Aniken/ Vader maybe after this series of Obi-Wan in this time frame , once he learned Aniken was still alive as Darth Vader is when he knew he really had to protect them from Vader now too.

[@gr8tbigtreehugger]

Thanks for this thoughtful video!! Upon further reflection, can see Palpatine keeping Anakin's identity secret, otherwise Anakin might be able to use his past to his advantage in replacing Palpatine - as all legit Sith apprentices aim to replace their master! (Otherwise keeping Anakin's identity a secret is simply a plot device for character moments and revelations.)

[@the_real_lego_commander_cody]

Based on some of the comics, vader himself killed anyone who revealed that they knew his identity, I think it was more of a personal thing; he no longer considered himself to be Anakin

[@wickedremains2594]

@@the_real_lego_commander_cody It is canon that they recorded Anakin as killed in the Jedi purge.

[@Milos596]

I like the show. For me continuity is kinda ruined for the reason that in episode 4 Vades is clearly indirectly suggesting that they haven't seen each other in decades. "I haven't sensated this presence since..." "When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master" So that is problem for me in this show. Nothing else. And kinda inquisitors death, it cancels Star Wars Rebels

[@mardroidmk1393]

We saw the chief Inquisitor skewered with a lightsaber, but we never got confirmation that he actually died. That would usually be a death blow, but he isn't human. I've read that his species have two stomachs...

[@Samaritan38]

The only reason why Obi-Wan didn't know that Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker because Vader "killed" Anakin and accepted of his new persona or alter-ego and lived fully on Sith for the time being. Luke Skywalker: "I accepted the truth that you were once Anakin Skywalker, my father." Darth Vader:" That name doesn't mean much to me." Luke Skywalker:"It is the name of your true self, you just only forgotten..." See, overtime people wanted to construct new persona because it could work to change lifestyle, molding a different mindset the mental framework or outside life for survival or being a harsher version of oneself and etc. That's why symbolically, Darth Vader represents nor only anger and intimidation , but live in falsehood and self denial to his new "persona". That's why Obi-Wan couldn't recognize Anakin's new presence, he's now more machine than man....(let you fill the rest of it, lol 😉). But yeah, people can change depending what lifestyle can defines oneself only if that self is living fully. It's up to the person and it's viewpoint.

[@Letemin]

* "That name no longer has any meaning for me!"

[@beentheredonethat5908]

Obi-Wan is supposed to find out about Vader on a hologram machine in a water house. This is actually cannon that is being rewritten. I dont mind this being rewritten , it makes for a great story. Still Vader is no longer supposed to hunt jedi at this point, it would make the emperor mad, he wanted Vader to rule beside him and leave the hunting to inquisitiors , well within the cannon and books.

[@88demonspeeder]

Nicely done

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

Thank you

[@88demonspeeder]

Of course!!

[@skits_3d824]

I did wonder why the ISB didn't come along with them. Isn't it their job to gather information and making sure the citizens were still loyal to the empire? I'm at least pretty sure they'll show up later but that would have been a good opportunity to in force the empire's presence. Sure inquisitors could be considered vanguard but I would have at least 2 ISB under them after capturing Nari.

[@LaraA55]

This is a very good point

[@TechDove]

That scene from the episode today....

[@ianhenry1031]

Hi Gerald I agree that Vader was a secret while he was getting used to his new body and learning the darkside of his power and he was in charge of the inquisitors sending them out to kill the jedi and especially kenobi and by the end of the series they will meet because they have connected and that is why kenobi will learn to lightsaber fight again and I think leia will be taken again by the inquisitors to find kenobi after he has given her back to mum and dad great video Star Wars Fanatic

[@nffin]

Ashoka didn't know cause she never saw the holo like Kenobi did. Same goes for the Jedi Rebels.

[@richvan2128]

I think obi wan would feel Anakin was alive, at the very least. He also knew anakin was called DV by the emperor. So that was kinda weird to me during the show. It made it seem like he didn’t know either.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

Obi-Wan had cut himself off from the Force.

[@richvan2128]

@@STARWARS_FANATICnot immediately.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

@@richvan2128 no but Darth Vader only felt Obi-Wan when Obi-Wan had boarded the Death Star. And that was even after Obi reconnected with the Force.

[@richvan2128]

@@STARWARS_FANATIClol so after they spent over 10 years together he can just cut it off? Nah man, he’s have to learn that as well. It’s ok to realize the writing can’t be perfect. When Lucas made “Star Wars” he wasn’t planning on also making 1-3. There’s going to be continuity issues. The force in Star Wars is as inconsistent with Superman’s weakness to kryptonite. One scene he can’t stand being within 20 Ft of it, then in Returns we find out not only he can lift a kryptonite island but he can do it with a piece stuck inside him.

[@wardlafferty6092]

Obi-Wan cut himself off from the Force…my guess Obi-wan took the Barash vow.

[@hnavarro5615]

outer rim was runned by the hutts. qui gon even said so

[@cormac154]

The show is phenomenal.

[@LaraA55]

Yes it is

[@eduardodiaz9177]

Totally agree, Vader and the death star were well kept secrets. Only in courasant, the Senate and others systems controlled by the empire did know about him... Leia did know, remember when she told Tarkin... Ah you're the one holding Vader's leash.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

“Darth Vader! Only you could be so bold.”

[@michelegouse191]

Wouldn't Qui-Gon have known about Vader and told Obi Wan?

[@LaraA55]

Obi Wan still hadn't communicated with Qui-gon due to suppressing the force

[@darthfader7414]

My point is if the indigenous population of Tatooine know what an inquisitor is surely they know that Vader exists.

[@windchillofaoi]

In My opinion he knew Vader existed just didn’t know it was Annakin.

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

He saw the hologram camera footage of Sidious calling him Vader in Revenge of the Sith.

[@windchillofaoi]

@@STARWARS_FANATIC dang didn’t think of that

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

@@windchillofaoi it’s okay. It took me a minute to remember, as well.

[@stevenwertz1646]

anyone who ever watched star wars whould agree that its impossible for him to not know!!!!!!!! even if it was a billion light years away, he would hear tales of vader!!!!

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

You’re saying it’s impossible for him to think Anakin died on Mustafar, where he left him limbless and on fire? It showed Obi-Wan didn’t have much interaction with people during his seclusion on Tatooine. In the beginning episode it highlighted how secluded he had become. Not even talking to fellow workers.

[@BlessedKingLou]

Why didn't Vader hunt for Yoda? Seems like vader feared messing with Yoda

[@joeysmith5074]

I’m sorry but I could’ve sworn that Yoda instructed Obi-Wan Kenobi on how to talk to Qui-Gon using the force. That is what happened at the end of episode three. So obi-Wan Kenobi was not talking with Qui-Gon’s force ghost? which would not seem likely. So he would not have been disconnected from the force and therefore he would’ve sensed Anakin Skywalker or Qui-Gon would’ve mentioned it in one of their discussions… Am I wrong here.? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LaraA55]

I think since Obi Wan was so disconnected from the force, suppressed or blocked it for 10 years he was unable to communicate with Qui-Gon...most likely the show will reveal the moment when he does communicate with Qui-Gon...after he started to use the force more from rescuing Leia.

[@regulusatilius4121]

Empire Strikes Back - Obi Wan "I don't want to lose you to the Emperor the way I lost Vader." kzbin.info/www/bejne/sICtqKqsgbmoosk Obi Wan see a hologram in Episode III where Sidious refers to a kneeling Anakin as "Lord Vader" kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4STdHhvrqadjdU

[@bluecollartradesman715]

Obi-wan literally watched a security hologram where Anakin was kneeling before Palpatine, who said “You have done well my new apprentice. Now Lord Vader, go bring peace to the empire”. kzbin.info_31ltR3E3s8?feature=share

[@beentheredonethat5908]

Vader was not a secret lol. Him being anakin yes, Vader himself though was well known in the galaxy , but this planet was in the outer rim, so news was always late and slum. This is hut territory, jaba the hut to be exact. Vader was paraded around by the emperor. The emperor wanted him to stop hunting jedi after the first few years and run the business of the empire, to be a political figure more then a hunter. I do see why you'd think this, but the comics, novels , and history shows all of this. The movies are lacking so much in lore, for this you have to read and get more into source material. I actually don't mind the change , we need more stories and characters, but it's still a change from the source. The huts were allowed to stay in power. This was a trade agreement, and they were still under the thumb of the empire, just not as much, that's why the people knew who the inquisitiors were. Vader identity was a secret to all but a few. He was very secret and quiet, but he was known everywhere. He was more a nightmare and scarey figure but still known. That's how Leia knew him , he was involved in politics and sent on missions for the emperor quite often to speak and carry out missions for politics and gain. I do enjoy the horror aspect of Vader much more though. The fear he gives people, the brutally efficient way he kills. This Vader is the one we need.

[@skits_3d824]

Well... It took 3 days but I figured it out all be it a little obvious. How did Reva know about Anakin? She was reading Obi's mind. That's why she said "You didn't know?..." That means Obi had a weak mind or weaker mind due to his guilt about Anakin. I think Vader sensed that and is coming for them both.

[@wickedremains2594]

How did she read his mind without direct contact? We see that is part of it she needs to put her hand to their head lile kylo. In this moment Obi-wan would also not have been thinking about Anakin at this point so she would not have been able to sense his thoughts either like vader did to luke.

[@bonbonacev52]

Didn’t he hear about Vader during the 10 year gap?

[@isaacvaldez222]

so before he even went into exile he couldnt feel that vader was alive thru the force until he cut himself from the froce and had to have reva tell him is dumb

[@LaraA55]

Ahoska couldn't even feel Anakin/Darth Vader or Obi wan or any other Jedi after order 66

[@isaacvaldez222]

@@LaraA55 yeah she did

[@LaraA55]

@@isaacvaldez222 not in the canon ahsoka novel...in the novel she said that she couldn't feel them through the force and thought they were dead

[@Samaritan38]

BTW, SWFanatic. Take your time to do your segments and replies on your channel whenever you can. If you need a breather or two, go ahead, bud. Got your plans for the summer with your family, go ahead and have a great summer with your family and friends. Live your life, We'll be patient. Enjoy yourself, ner vod. 😊👍

[@blackdragon44]

People saying it makes sense are just making excuses for poor writing

[@eriksmith852]

Obi-Wan May very well know about Darth Vader. I don’t think he’s quite the level of secret that the KZbinr is describing. What Obi-Wan DIDN’T know is that Anakin is Darth Vader. As far as Obi-Wan knows Anakin died on Mustafar. Then Palpatine got a new Apprentice from wherever he pulls them and poof: Darth Vader. And Tatooine is in Hutt space. That’s why there is no Imperial presence until very late/just before A New Hope.

[@mb7987]

Revenge of the Sith- Darth Sidious calls Anakin Skywalker...Lord Vader in the security hologram Obi-Wan & Yoda watch, plus Yoda says (not an exact quote) gone the boy you trained, consumed by Vader young Skywalker is.

[@S.ThomasMedia]

That's what I'm saying too and no one seems to acknowledge it

[@wickedremains2594]

You are not brining up a comic about kenobi that explains he learned about vader still living in a tavern on Tatooine. Also Ashoka learns who vader really is in rebels. Remember their fight where she breaks his mask and she figures it out? Im sorry but your canon answer does not account for actual canon that we have had for years now. Also how does Reeva know who Vader really is. It is possible she knows vader exist being an inquisitor but she would not know his real name and live to tell Obi-wan in fact the only person who ever does manage to figure it out and live is Ashoka and thay is only with help from Ezera using the world between worlds.

[@TheSSBBfan666]

Ashoka found out during a dogfight where she sensed Anakin under the armor and freaked out, not during their fight in the Sith Temple, she already knew who he was by that point.

[@wickedremains2594]

@@TheSSBBfan666 ah yes thank you i forgot about the dog fight. I knew she had sensed him but couldnt remember how that happened. Been a minute since i saw the show

[@braydenjensen8300]

He literally did nothing but go to work and home what?? 😂😂😂

[@lpnurse1]

SPOILER ALERT SO DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN EP. 3....... OBI-WAN fights Vader and is pathetic shell of his former self.... as you can see by his cutting off of the force.. I know this is before rebels and his fight with Maul that lasted seconds being the true jedi master he was / is.... What I am worried about with Rebels being canon and Kenobi looking like a soldier with PTSD after the Wars in this series so far ... is will he just turn the force back on and become the Ben we all know and see in Rebels to fight Vader... will he try and find the good in Anakin as Padme mentioned and Vader eluded to Luke when captured in ROTJ.... r will that be for season 2... ??? I feel Qui-Gon may be the key to snapping Kenobi out of his melancholy.... because he ain't doing shit in his condition at the moment except being punked down.

[@ShizawnSanders]

Obi wan thinking Anakin died isn't the problem. They write it as if he doesn't know Anakin is Vader which is just horrible writing

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

I didn’t get that impression at all. And if you’re talking about the article that was written, that isn’t what the writer said. They said Obi-Wan didn’t know if Vader survived. The headline was misleading and other KZbinrs ran with the headline. They didn’t read the article fully.

[@ShizawnSanders]

@@STARWARS_FANATIC dude, the writer admitted to not knowing. Of course he is going to retract after looking the fool. Tons of people think the writing is horrible and for good reasons. The only thing good about this series is how they show Vaders power but even then they made him look incompetent in the 3rd episode. Ewan McGregor is a great actor so of course his acting is great. There are good visuals and cool new places that are shown but other than that the show sucks. Huge let down. Was so looking forward to this and its a huge letdown. Most of the acting is cringe bad. Writing is God awful and so is the directing. You can love it if you want but most people that know what to look for in good cinema think its average at best including me. Disney just wants to put out these properties and say love this or else your just a toxic person as if people can't have opinions. Its BS.

[@stuartgooding7295]

He doesn't know because. His distanced from the force ..and is in the outer rim...at this point..vader is using inquisitor are doing the dirty work.!!..that is why !!

[@LaraA55]

That is right

[@Evocati-Augusti]

The Canon is a mess...the movie we 77' wanted never happened...

[@Evocati-Augusti]

The Truce at Bakura is what we wanted..the next movie..hell, I have figures from the movie that was never made, Dark Luke? most people don't even know what happened to Luke after Jedi..

[@Shadowpack95]

Well since the Empire operated on Power and Loyalty through Fear I'm going to say No, Vader would not be a carefully guarded secret. Palpatine would've paraded Vader around as the Empire's Justice early on to instill fear across the Galaxy

[@darthfader7414]

My point is if the indigenous population of tattooine know what an inquisitor is surely they know that Vader exists.

[@matthenazgul5454]

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[@andrewfett142]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@garfsexual6999]

I feel like hating on new star wars has become a hive mind thing, people don't think for themselves and hate any new content without thinking so that they can look cool and fit in, 99.999% of these peoples points and "plot holes" can be explained without much thinking

[@LaraA55]

Love this comment and so well said