How Osama Bin Laden Got Away in Tora Bora

[@rueridge7597]

Never get tired of Jamie, Shrek, others tell the real behind the scenes stories

[@chrishandsome4267]

Will always have been one of my greatest pleasures to be in the unit with this man.

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[@jasonhutter7534]

wish i was with you.

[@andrewhicks6494]

I’m going to have to call bullshit on you because it seems like your phishing for internet gratitude. I could be wrong but I doubt it

[@fermacht213]

Prove it

[@bogus69]

@@andrewhicks6494 doesn’t necessarily mean he was in a tier one unit with him, he could have easily been in the 82nd with him or some other big army unit before he got selected.

[@BigBackInk]

Thanks for the smaller clip. Watched the full version and I missed a lot of details mentioned.

[@Boltman47]

Could be profitable to make a secondary clips channel, especially with the growth and success you guys are having

[@wolfumz]

Yeah, often times in these long interviews on the channel, there are usually one or two jaw dropping stories buried in somewhere in the 2nd hr...

[@mattlynch642]

EXCELLENT POINT

[@oda23official]

Thank you so much for expressing just how frustrated Tom was. I think he was more let down by our country then he was mad. Till Valhalla brother

[@SincereSentinel]

Great discussion guys thanks!!!!!

[@JJ_SDWR]

I like the clips!

[@HotBoxTrucking]

short war = no $$$

[@samdavidson880]

this is by far the most interesting podcast on this website

[@subversivelysurreal3645]

Seymour Hersh really details the entire story quite well.

[@oda23official]

I was lucky enough to meet Dalton. He taught me so much before he died. I may be spent a total of seven hours with him as I was in law-enforcement. But he was able to show me how to do my job better with Hand to hand. He didn’t show me everything I’m sure but he showed me enough to make me feel safe on the road and I am forever grateful. We love you And miss you RedFly. He sure loved Shrek. Tip of the spear at it best. Shrek. Valuable stories

[@ericolmos7816]

Awesome story! Love to hear it some time!

[@simonmelmeth8515]

It is my understanding that green was used in night vision because the human eye can pick up more shades of green than any other colour. Can any of the military guys out there confirm this?

[@wilfdarr]

That's what I had heard as well, though I think the science that was based on in now in dispute. (not military)

[@maxdelozier5752]

Thank you from a fellow vet for your service sir...in these fubar times we are in right now needed a reminder why America is still great

[@joesgotya9930]

@6:28 He talks about the ISA SIGNALs interceptors that were attached to his Squadron. These guys job was to pick up the enemy’s UHF/VHF radio transmissions and try to geolocate their RF emitters while also listening to their words and paying attention to their voices. The CIA had a guy in Deltas safe house who was the leading foremost expert on Usama Bin Laden, and he understood the man at a level where he could pick his voice out of a crowd. It was the ISAs job to augment the Delta Force teams and try to facilitate Bin Laden to get on a radio as much as possible. To do that they had get into close proximity and deal with the challenges of their Afghan partner force always wanting to leave once they took terrain owned by Al Qaeda. They also utilized the airstrikes being called in as a way to get the enemy fighters talking on radios. As each bomb impacted into the mountains it caused panic and confusion among the enemy positions, and the ISA capitalized off those transmissions and were able to map out a more clear picture of the battle space.

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Isa was used in colombia before to find escobar. I wonder if the colombia mission gave experience to them

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Pretty gangster that the backdrop is your own bombing raid

[@FPVNOLA]

More clips of combat interactions plz!

[@jeremycohen1814]

I'm confused is this a continuation of 109...or the 2nd part..sorry for my ignorance

[@DirtbagHistory]

It’s just a clip from that episode Jamey is coming back in 22’

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@@DirtbagHistory coming back in 22 feet?

[@Johnson11c]

Damn good show! Bunch of patriots!

[@notundermywatch3163]

My boys still haven't figured out the audio yet.

[@bradleywayne3943]

About their natural night vision: On patrol, PITCH DARK, attempting to navigate our way up a little wooded area on the mountain. We were soft compromised by a couple farmers that just walked up to us and two others that were watching us with their naked eye just like daytime. Rear security thought they were ghosts (because that thought made more sense to him at the time 🤷‍♂️) when he first spotted them in their white 'mandress'. Another team had a goat farmer watch them walk through a wadi into the tree line also. ☀️⚡️⭐️ RLTW Carpe Noctem Brothers

[@ninjadave1970]

In 1995, I had a dream about two snipers on a cliffside, with there rifles scopes swinging hitting into the rocks... It was the foretelling from this dream that led to the development of a night vision scope mount, from a design idea suggestion at Knight Armament . I was in a bookstore many years later, picked up a copy of Kill Bin Laden, and saw a picture of two SR25's one of them had the scope mount that came from the dream. I knew, I had to get this book, when I read the caption of a photo that said Delta Operator Noodle, that my buddy was with in 2004...

[@LeDiamondDog]

Bin was in Bora Bora ? 🏝🏖

[@darrendouglas3704]

When Delta went to hunt OBL ive always wondered if SAS had been inserted with them how it would've played out The two top SF hunting on Tora Bora or as Dalton said they wanted come over the mountain using oxygen but were denied .Nothing shouldve been denied makes you wonder.If had gotten OSB on mountain the BS invasion of Iraq may have been non starter for Bush ,Cheney & Blair War Criminals

[@davidjonathannn950]

Bro it was all for money these dudes could have killed bin laden but weren’t allowed for some reason lmfaoooo connect the dots

[@klk1900]

Dalton fury made it known that he never worked with SAS. SBS was there though which is better than SAS in “DALTON FURYS OPINION”. But to answer the question NO it wouldn’t do anything. People that are ignorant don’t understand. (DELTA/DEVGRU-SAS/SBS) all are interchangeable you can’t tell a difference unless water is involved then Devgru/SBS will have an advantage. SAS/delta have specific troops or squadrons that can do water but not everyone. Where SBS/DEVGRU EVERYONE CAN DO WATER BECAUSE ITS A BASIC requirement IN THOSE UNITS. What they requested was 500-1000 army Rangers to block off the border and the white house turned it down. People don’t understand these high speed hostage rescue teams are made for hostage rescue and taking down buildings. They are equipped to fight a whole army. People are often over impressed by them and don’t understand they don’t have a huge capability when it comes to fighting a large force. They have an advantage when it comes to hostage rescue and cqb or cqc. But not the big conventional type warfare. On the ground they had Delta and SBS. - people watch to many movies and dramatically overestimate what these Special mission units are capable of. The only thing that would of got bin laden would have been jumping in 1000-5000 army Rangers to secure that damn border. - if you notice when we went and got bin laden they were on the ground 40min crashing a helicopter, blowing door charges, blowing up the helicopter, flying in mh-47 to pick up the guys which is extremely loud. All of that and ZERO PAKISTANIS POLICE/MILITARY 0.52mi away etc responded. Nobody responded in that 40mins of noise. The Pakistanis knew bin laden was there and they had an agreement that when the Americans come they won’t respond or do Anything obviously. Otherwise police and idk who all would have responded. Bin laden was not alone in 9/11 it seems a bunch of countries secretly stood behind him because they felt the USA needed to see what it felt like getting bombed or attacked. The USA had been bombing countries in the 70s 80s 90s and just bullying around so they all supported bin laden which is why the hid him out and slipped him into Pakistan

[@klk1900]

Oh btw iraq war planning started in 1998-1999. People don’t understand iraq was coming 9/11 or not. They released a memo on January 30th 2001 bush walked in and said figure out a way into iraq. They then bombed iraq in Feb 2001. But keep in mind the iraq war was supported by democrats and republicans both. Don’t let them fool you for a second this was a bush thing. This was supported by both that’s why they voted in congress and senate for it. This was started in the 90s. It was all in the name of National security. They felt the west would be out of oil in 2048. So they schemed this to go into iraq and never leave. You know the whole thing about bush and Blair had a poor exit strategy? That’s because they never planned on leaving! The plan was go in turn iraq into a western friend and maintain a presence so we have that oil.

[@MrProcivil]

@@klk1900 SBS wasn't there on Tora Bora at that moment when they hunted UBL. SBS joined only in a year later in the winter of 2002 when Delta went back to Tora Bora to search for any confirmation of possible UBL's death and to track down a guy named Gul Ahmed who was supposed to be the guy who treated UBL's wound after the battle of Tora Bora. And yes, Iraq would have happened any way. A few days after 9/11, the plan that the white house came up with was to attack Iraq. Like Steeve Clark, the guy in charge of the UBL unit at the white house said: They came up with a plan to attack Irak and every body thought it was a joke. When they realized that it wasn't a joke, someone said that non of the terrorist had a link with Iraq so if we attacked Iraq, people wouldn't understand why and we may not get the support of our allies. A debate followed to which Bush concluded with a "Afghanistan first". Clark said that the minute he left that meeting, he knew that we would find a way to invade Iraq.

[@RPMCanes]

@@klk1900 I don't think the request for additional forces ever got past Tommy Franks. It's really a shame because we had about 1,000 troops from the 10th Mountain Division, who specialize in fighting in those conditions, a couple hours away. Plus, Mad Dog Mattis had about 1,200 Marines that were also close by. More than enough to get the job done.

[@211212112]

WTF didn't they hire up’s keep massive ISR/recon on the caves they knew he was in? If they were having to stack planes like it was Heathrow Airport they had enough air assets to not on my watch the entire area, but also have a second and third plane watching the same area add drones and satellites and troops they should have several pairs of eyes covering every bit of ground near UBL’s cave. Then when a small group is booking it from that area towards Pakistan bomb them. I think the cease-fire wasn't the thing that let UBL escape. He had something else to trade them. Idk what be it info, persons, Intel, money, idk. But whatever it was he had up his burka it obviously was valuable enough to get someone way up in the US command structure to agree to a bs ceasefire (hell the US official is probably the one that made the plane. UBL said get me out and I'll make it worth your while.) that's when the US Official came up with a false cease-fire as a way to cover the fact that the US made a deal with UBL to help him get gone.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

man it was a shit show they wouldnt let rest of us block him in when requested thats a general franks deal but you know cia worked with bin laden for years its alot of shit folks dont know with tapi pipeline bush and taliban and bin laden family its all money and oil

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

but ur right and ill tell ya this regular airforce didnt have armed reapers till years later the cia had its owned armed drones years before they coulda got him so many times , its shit none of us ever know

[@jstape740]

And yet Rummy and Bush let him slip away..

[@andystegall7407]

If he got killed then there's no more War on Terror. Too many politicians with too many connections reliant on juicy defense contracts to allow that to happen

[@BillyBob-wq9fl]

Bush met with some Bin-Laden family members on or around 9/11/01.. The two families were friends. Look it up.

[@OG-Ghost33]

How do they know they almost got him and what evidence did they have that he went to Pakistan?

[@occamsrayzor7999]

He was literally heard on the radio at the brink of crying while preparing to die, while trying to comfort his followers (presumably he was wounded in one of the airstrikes). One of the sniper teams already had eyes on his caravan but that's when the Northern Alliance commander under the CIA's payroll declared a BS ceasefire and turned the guns on the Americans if they continued to engage Bin Laden's group. He was navigating a narrow pass that led to Pakistan, Dalton Fury requested to drop anti-personnel mines and parachute in a group of rangers wearing high altitude gear to block the passage but it was denied by Washington. Of course we all know 10 years later that the scumbag was hiding in Abbottabad where he finally bit a 5.56.

[@AJohnSmith]

*CIA allowed it.*

[@discobriscoe1882]

He got away because UKSF had him and the Americans asked them to stand back so they could come in and get him. They whiffed and missed.

[@johngeiger3770]

Short answer: they let him get away.

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[@GoddardCrueman]

He was in Iran the whole time. Come on guys, let’s go wake up.

[@norasullivan1964]

American heroes all.

[@brenryan1]

I know don't ask don't tell used to be a thing, but is it now a requirement to join the us military?? Why are all of these men gay? Were they like that before?

[@alonzokincaid1362]

They were deflowered

[@OG-Ghost33]

Who’s gay?

[@FancyPantsOnFire]

Easy. SAS had him. They were tracking him before the Americans were. Then the Americans refused the SAS get him. Then the Americans lost him. Basically they messed up trying to take the credit. I often liken it to the f-14s being in position to intercept tracks during the gulf war and air controllers instead diverting eagles from further away to get the kills. A USAF priority thing.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

they had chances snatch his ass in the 90s and clinton made it impossible the 9/11 deal was retaliation for threatening the taliban goverment who bush had just made a deal with on building a pipeline through the country mfer had em at his house. well now he had his reason to go into afghan . ole cheney and bush the oil barons

[@jwalter81]

Lol

[@BillyBob-wq9fl]

How can the Americans lose him when he worked for us?

[@joesgotya9930]

@@FancyPantsOnFire The SAS (never) once had Bin Ladens trail and this story you’re peddling came from an old London Spectre News tabloid by Bruce Anderson in 2001. It’s literally written about in the book “Kill Bin Laden” by the Delta Force A squadron commander Dalton Fury, where he calls the narrative complete fiction. There wasn’t a single SAS Squadron operating in that part of Afghanistan in that time frame. I’ll even read you the quote if you like. That entire SAS story was BS, and it’s been debunked for decades now lol

[@joesgotya9930]

@@FancyPantsOnFire LOL 😂 Do you even know where that story originated from? It was written by a British journalist of the London Spectre named Bruce Anderson back in 2001 post December, battle of Tora Bora. Former Delta Force commander Dalton Fury mentioned that exact article in his book “Kill Bin Laden” where he calls out that story as pure BS. There wasn’t a single SAS Squadron In that part of Afghanistan where Bin Laden was being hunted. It was a complete fabrication and a good laugh to those who were actually tracking Bin Laden in that time frame.. Delta Force was on his trail from the get go.. The SAS were not even relevant let alone present

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