How Powerful Is The Imperial Cult? - The Influence of the Eight Divines - Elder Scrolls Lore

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In our latest Elder Scrolls video we discuss the extent and power of the eight divines religion via the Imperial Cult.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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[@CyberController-]

Nordic pantheon: Exists Elven pantheon: Also exists Saint Alessia: I'm gonna do what's called a "pro gamer move".

[@KingDrav]

Me: *reloads youtube home page* FudgeMuppet: _It's postin' time_

[@Soumada.]

Last time I was this early Pelinal hadn't gotten into his first madness.

[@mattnlogan101]

WeirdoLegend Pelinal? You mean Pelagius?

[@Soumada.]

@@mattnlogan101 nope, Pelinal Whitestrake was famous for going into a "Madness " state,a total berserk mode which he didn't remember afterwards,and slaughter elves(or anyone else in his path)by the thousands. The first time Pelinal went in Madness was after the death of his lover Huna by an Ayleid warrior, he was so destructive, ruthless & blinded by rage that the Divines had to interfere for him to stop his rampage. Pelinal went into those states many times during the Ayleid wars.

[@_Blonca]

For those playing Skyrim, if you’re over encumbered and are wanting to move to a different house, area , etc. Just grab or summon a Horse and you will be able to Fast travel or ride your way there.

[@meganobgutzkraka2398]

THIS IS WHY I CANT STOP USING CONJURATION Arvak is a fucking blessing

[@korgclips868]

You can also do it with ohdahviing or any dragon you use the bend will shout on,, travelling everywhere by dragon just feels so cool

[@ollievance2258]

Shezzar is the best old nord god, that’s for shor.

[@CyberController-]

Well you seem to know your stuff about the Elder Scrolls universe. Someone could even call you a Lore Khan.

[@unslaadkrosis3489]

He died and his soul was shattered and regularly incarnated in mortal form. 3 of his avatars fused together in death and became Talos.

[@CyberController-]

@@RaveMasterSRB I'm not sure how to respond to that.

[@margarettargana9844]

The word Khan can mean king if I recall right, the phrase Lore Khan does make sense I suppose.

[@dillon1961]

i love this community

[@EndlessDreamer448]

It's also seemed like with the death of the Septim line and the advent of the Oblivion crisis and its aftermath the religious state of the Divines are starting to take on a more practical influence rather than a more personal experience with the waning influence distrust of Mysticism and magic especially in the era of Skyrim. I would love to see an event in the future that brings Tameriel back to the level of mysticism of the first and second eras of the Elder Scrolls which ironically would have happened had Alduin been able to fulfill his duty as world eater and essentially reset time. I really want something like a renaissance or the magic equivalent to a scientific revolution.

[@Scotttjt]

TECHNICALLY Miirak is the First Dragonborn, while Alessia OFFICIALLY holds that title.

[@Saber23]

Scotttjt yeah that's true I'm not sure why though 🤷‍♂️

[@Scotttjt]

@NurturingTalents According to Michael Kirkbride: "Alessia didn't have the power to absorb dragon souls. Hers was a much more nuanced power: to dream of liberty and give it a name and on her deathbed make Covenant with the Aka-Tusk." So MY understanding is that she wasn't a "normal" Dragonborn, like Miirak, Tiber Septim or The Last Dragonborn; I assume those individuals were born with their power, given their dragon souls by Akatosh at birth or even conception, and it just didn't manifest until later in life when it was needed. Alessia, on the other hand, wasn't born with the soul of a dragon, but was given the dragonblood when she made her covenant with Akatosh. Whether or not that means she could use the Thu'um, I don't know. Despite this, she is recognized by most historians in TES universe as the first Dragonborn, even though Miirak has her beat by a few hundred years.

[@H240909]

That's why he said technically in the video.

[@Scotttjt]

@@H240909 Using the word "technically" as he did implied that Alessia was the first Dragonborn, when in fact she wasn't; I know he didn't intend to convey that meaning, I was just pointing it out. Had he said something akin to she was "officially" the first, or "the first recorded Dragonborn", I wouldn't have said anything.

[@H240909]

Scotttjt Well we are just arguing semantics now. Technically. XD

[@alexiosbrandon3383]

Hey I was wondering if you guys could do a in depth video on vivec by himself

[@crandleberrysadie]

Yessss!

[@CyberController-]

You mean video series?

[@steven20653]

Id dig one on Sotha Sil. After playing ESO he was the only quest giver that I didnt want to punch in the throat.

[@michaelinsomanywords3647]

Steven Andrew he murdered the hortator and stole divinity

[@johnbones3455]

@@michaelinsomanywords3647 In his defense, he was only one to take full responsibilty over that. Vivec acknowledged that and the alternative versions and Almalexia just lied to herself about it.

[@gavingrewal2733]

kind of stupid they didn't include the imperial and talos cults in skyrim, especially since the driving force behind the civil war is religion

[@Randy_Flamethrower]

We really appreciate these videos during such crazy times. This is a nice distraction from all the horrible things going on. Thanks for uploading guys, fantastic content as always! Edit: oh, and hope you’re all safe and healthy!

[@Randy_Flamethrower]

Goth Jesus nothing says credible source on infectious diseases like “goth Jesus”. Thanks professor!

[@arabiannights5301]

@Goth Jesus I'll assume you're smarter than legions of experts and take your words as gospel truth.

[@mathiasfantoni2458]

Took me a while to realise this was not a reference to the real Imperial Cult of the Roman Empire, but the fictional one in the Elder Scrolls, lmao 😂

[@Snairster]

40 years from now: Fudgemuppet's latest video: "How powerful are the ants on the stump in Riverwood?"

[@ra_alf9467]

You can stand on top of them, Fus Ro Dah them, burn them, shoot them with enchanted bow, but they can't die

[@taimasplash]

Damn.. I'd hope that we would at least be on TES VII by then, but I guess not

[@michaelinsomanywords3647]

now that is no way to talk about children

[@DrCawfee669]

I wonder how someone from our world, with the complete knowledge of lore, would survive and thrive in the elder scrolls universe. Since they would know how certain events would play out, how they could play it to their advantage

[@mrjalmari]

Well... he/she would achive chim, because world of elder scrolls is dream of god head, that someone knows that they are real, so no zero sum. Basically lucid dream at that point.

[@rozzojoestar5405]

Knowledge is power in elder scrolls, knowledge shapes the world and beyond. If someone from real life got into the elder scrolls world they would either achieve chim or the reality shape around their knowledge making their knowledge completely false or completely true which results in a dragon break.

[@jermainecloetejki57]

They wouldn’t achieve chim straight away as it takes years of meditation and learning to fully understand it before zero summing.

[@mrjalmari]

@@jermainecloetejki57 meditation is to get to know that world is dream, zero sum happens when person knows that he is just a part of dream and doesen't declare that he exists, in other words you couldn't zero sum because you KNOW that you have existed outside of dream

[@discount1493]

You would probably achieve Chim pretty much instantly

[@wiibrockster]

We need a The Imperial Cult as a joinable faction in TES 6. I think it could be a neat little faction

[@Valencetheshireman927]

I think you could join the Imperial cult in Elder Scrolls Three Morrowind.

[@wiibrockster]

@@Valencetheshireman927 You could

[@grefsteel3989]

Damn Fudge, you covered real world take over of Christianity so eloquently. If you decided to do some real life lore in the future I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind at all.

[@hhjk377]

Working in a religious civil war/restructuring of Cyrodiil seems a bit too complex for the current Bethesda writing staff to manage.

[@EJDubbz]

What writing staff? KISS, y'all.

[@patron8597]

A problem of most studios of that size, sadly. I don't even doubt that they still have some talented and passionate writers on board, but the problem is that a pitch to the suites would probably go like *looks up from market research paper "Where's the mass appeal in that? I'll let you add your story to the Expanded Book Collection DLC ($19.99), now write up some more crafting quests."

[@bronzecobra8556]

@@patron8597Yeah that honestly sucks, plus the suites would probably make more money if they just let their writers get creative.

[@JaelaOrdo]

Saint Alessia always was my favorite character from Elder Scrolls history (so much so that I named my daughter Alessia)

[@empress9554]

It is actually a really pretty name.

[@robertsmalls2293]

You do know that she fucked a magical bull right?

[@theFORZA66]

@@robertsmalls2293 whats wrong with that

[@robertsmalls2293]

Boi That’s beastiality. Which is fucking gross.

[@theFORZA66]

@@robertsmalls2293 cmon live a little

[@dreadedworld8864]

Everyone in tamriel: praise the 8 divides Dwemer: *r e d d i t* Dunmer: praise the tribunal

[@LethalBongo]

Hey can you guys possibly make a video on Vivec's 36 lessons? They have always confused me and I would love a video!

[@ethanschenck9714]

I think most of the Nords have simply adopted the Imperial names of the divines, not the divines themselves. Most of the gods they bring up have firm equivalents in their pantheon, and when they talk about them they sound completely different as well. Talos in Cyrodiil is associated with law and governance, while in Skyrim he sounds exactly like Ysmir: a brave hero God of warfare who is the epitome of what every man can become.

[@dutchpatriot17]

They wouldn't make such a big deal about a ''Talos ban'' if they worshipped Ysmir.

[@ethanschenck9714]

@@dutchpatriot17 Ysmir is a title used throughout Nordic history meaning "Dragon of the North" which was bestowed upon various shezarrines; Talos being the most recent and influential of them all. He's the current Ysmir, and the Nords treat him as such as opposed to the god of law and rule that the Imperials see him as.

[@dutchpatriot17]

@@ethanschenck9714 1. Ysmir the title is not Ysmir the God. 2. Being Shezzarine and being Ysmir are completely unrelated.

[@Super50ldier]

@@dutchpatriot17 It's spelled Shezarrine.

[@bronzecobra8556]

That’s a cool way of looking at it, plus some of the ways Kynareth is presented in Skyrim are more reminiscent of Kyne the warrior wife of Shor.

[@ericpeterson8732]

I started out in Tameril in Morrowind and thought of the Imperial Cult as the Imperials attempting to replace the Tribunal of Morrowind with some form of emperor worship. In Oblivion, the Imperial Cult is just the nine divines and so I thought the Cult was gone, because they never used that name. In my playthrough of Morrowind, the only reason I knew anything about the two religions was because of that cool recall spell that would bring you to the nearest Temple.

[@rustyshackle8000]

I'd love to have at least a questline in VI that focuses on the Alessian Order. If you're not familiar, they were a monotheistic, human-centric cult that arose following the overthrow of the Aylieds. They were extremely anti-elven, often chasing them out of cities or executing them without cause. I imagine the Great War and the following White-Gold Concordat would cause a surge in anti-elven sentiment, especially in Cyrodil, which is also where the Alessian Order first started. Maybe the quest has you investigating recent mysterious disappearances in city. Upon investigation, you discover the common thread is that all the missing people are Mer: Dunmer, Bosmer, and it seems especially Altmer. You do some more digging, and discover that a local human has connections to the cult, and you slowly unravel a conspiracy. The local ruler is an elf, and the Order is planning a coup to overthrow him and create a sort of independent religious state. Or something like that, I just think they'd come back after redent events

[@marcokonnecke877]

Please, please, PLEASE let the music play for just a few seconds in the beginning of your videos again! It was so instantly immersive and in my opinion helped set the tone of the topic. Still love your content of course, it's the smallest of criticisms. - a loyal long time watcher

[@holemas]

Always nice to see the effort that goes into making these videos, the fact that I'm still learning new things after hundreds and hundreds of hours spent on ES Games is proof that yours is quality content ♥ Would you guys consider making a video on the mysterious parallel continent of Lyg? I remember you talked a bit about it in the Menhures Dagon-hope video, but I'm still very intrigued on the continent itself, some of the events that occurred there, all that great stuff haha

[@CherushiChan]

Hooray new vid! Thanks for helping us all keep sane during stay at home time.

[@UnwarrierChicken]

What is impressive is your enthusiasm and talent to explain and especulate fantastically about this awesome world.

[@GreatSmithanon]

Personally I think it would be very interesting to see the empire descend into total civil war in the next game, eventually crumbling and making way for a new power, presumably the Thalmor. A complete restructuring of religion would make things really interesting, perhaps a return to the old elven aedra worship, while the rest of the former empire splits. To see a more distinct cultural revival of every culture opposing the Thalmor would be really world-changing...The Nords reverting to the worship of their old Atmoran gods, plus perhaps some deification of the last dragonborn, the Yokudan religion seeing a huge resurgence in Hammerfell, the strengthening of daedra worship in Morrowind, and the Imperial cult of the eight-and-one having a resurgence in High Rock, perhaps with some of the noble houses trying to use it to begin a new empire. Maybe even a resurgence in the worship of Sithis in Black Marsh.

[@checkcheck1579]

fuck religion!

[@steven20653]

I'd like to see another continent. Lead the invasion or repel it.

[@RXTRUX1]

It's time for a new Dragon Break, and reorganize everything.

[@tylerwadman95]

The Thalmor are Elder Scrolls Nazis. They want nothing less than the complete obliteration of mankind, and the destruction of Nirn so they may attain the divinity that was taken from them by Lorkhan. It is why they hate Talos so much. He is the Imperial embodiment of the God of Mankind, Shezzar, Shor, Lorkhan, etc. and Tiber Septim achieved godhood through his mantling of the deity. The Thalmor controlling the Imperial city, and the majority of Tamriel is the equivalent of Hitler winning the war and exterminating all but those of pure Anglo-Saxon heritage. The Thalmor are pure and simply evil.

[@kingjamesthespartan4010]

Thalmor are literally racist. You want to the next game to be based on racist huh see what kind of person you are.

[@sgt.deathrow5563]

Thanks for the videos guys love them keep them going

[@a.r.c.8919]

I’ve been listening and downloading these more videos for years now and have to say I love the lore to these games and appreciate greatly you guys doing these videos to break everything down for us. My favourite race is the Orsimer and these videos brought all the information to me I was looking for to understand them and their deep and sad story . Keep up the great work guys, it’s awesome and the best coverage of the elder scrolls available

[@coldcube]

I love the d&d style thumbnails. It makes the lore seem deeper and more mysterious in a weird way. I see the thumbnail and I'm immediately intrigued.

[@danielgrant3946]

Another great fugdemuppet video Thanks guys

[@JoeReignSupreme]

Love you fudge , keep us entertained during corona plx

[@LastHope135]

Wouldn't that by definition if the dragon born has the blood of dragons would make them have divine right for the throne of the Empire?

[@JEFFYBOY132]

Never fails to impress, please keep doing your thing Scott - FlokiHef

[@ee4724]

What happens to an argonian who worhships an aedra? Do you want just get at the aedra for stealing their lizards?

[@crandleberrysadie]

Nice. Thanks. Stay safe!

[@virgileloheac4321]

Very nice video with beautiful musics

[@husseinhussein3870]

I like when u use oblivion music, really a refresher.

[@SnkobArts]

Hope you guys are staying safe!

[@ZeroSeriesMMX]

I smell a small "holy war" before the advent of the Second Great War (between the "Eight" and "Nine" defenders) should Titus Mede II's assassination become canon.

[@markogdon5746]

We need to find out what happened to all of Skyrim's toilet paper rolls! Did trolls take the rolls? Maybe those high elves!

[@sheogoraththedaedricprince9675]

If trolls stole the rolls then what will the poor mortals use? Sweet rolls? HA! I wonder who really stole the rolls??? Stanley the talking grapefruit?

[@FatmanRico2011]

Sheogorath took them to build a tp fortress in new sheo to protect the cheese from horker infiltrators obviously

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Real Nords wipe with pinecones.

[@kingjamesthespartan4010]

@@Im-Not-a-Dog dumb nords

[@ravindunandirathna1600]

Can you guys make a video covering the 36 lessons of vivec?

[@killerchesny]

Just food for thought, have you guys thought about adding some Oblivion or Morrowind builds to your archive?

[@kylestamps6822]

Marcus Septim? My guy Scott's gotta load up oblivion again 😂😂 just kidding, praise the fudge!!

[@nole8923]

If Bethesda isn’t paying fudgemuppet for their documentaries on elder scrolls then they should. Excellent videos. Very relaxing and soothing and the graphics are excellent. Music is excellent as well. I watch this stuff before going to bed.

[@Wolfsbane101]

I think a game where you gotta deal with a renewed alessian order would be kinda interesting or at least hear rumors about it in the next game

[@aberami6090]

Scott is actually a History Buff

[@runningthemeta5570]

Hail Markus Septim, the true heir of the Septim bloodline. Ignore that Martin Septim pretender, he can’t compare to the greatness that is Markus Septim.

[@guardiancologne9034]

@6:51 you say alessia was technically the first dragonborn but this is long after mirak, who was the first true dragonborn. Alessia was the first with dragon BLOOD, as you said, but thats it. The first true (nordic) dragonborn that also had the bragonblood is a mystery, but probably Reman. @8:14 i didnt know the temple of the one was from the alessian order, seems like a duh now. I rationed it as a temple of akatosh, being the most important god and the place he manifests with the dragonfires and then at endgame. As for the future of the faith, the divines are here to stay. At least in Cyrodil, Skyrim, and High Rock. Those are their de facto gods now.

[@kingjamesthespartan4010]

He said technically. Pay attention kid.

[@Endersynth]

Oh goody. I was going you'd make more videos on the Divines. While I have no disrespect for the Daedra of course, the Divines aren't talked about as much as they should be

[@jouzelfeather-pelt7686]

Syrabane vid :)

[@InterrogatorchaplainAsmodai]

Me sees title: Ave deus imperator

[@dillongibson2665]

Never have I been so early 🥇

[@Theblackhand1937]

Also could you do the Nordic pantheon !

[@notawolf494]

You should do a calvary build because it has not been done much and is very difficult to master

[@Galimeer5]

Have you guys considered making Elder Scrolls lore theory videos? I think those could be fun. For example, building off of this video, does the Last Dragonborn have claim to the Imperial throne by Divine Right?

[@sorrowdusk5068]

if wearing The Amulet of Kings (if it wasn't destroyed at the end of Oblivion) were the only thing need to become Emperor then yes, we have the divine right because just like Alessia, reman and Tiber we all were given the blood directly by Akatosh. unfortunately, we might need to take it with force ( again both Alessia, Reman and Tiber did so) besides as Fudgemuppet said: Titus was a warlord meaning he just killed any contender without having the Dragon blood.

[@shanesummerhill8715]

i cant wait for elder scrolls 6 Cyrodiil to come out!

[@oriele]

Ayeee

[@Werrf1]

I think too much emphasis is placed on the Empire's 'ban' on Talos worship. Sure, technically it was banned, but we saw in Skyrim that everyone still worships Talos, they just mostly do it privately or at wayside shrines instead of temples. The only reason the Empire agreed to it in the first place was to buy themselves time to rebuild.

[@jeremypedigo9802]

All I want for christmas is the elder scrolls 6 but I ant gone get it 😖

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

Hey, do the elves worship anyone? Do they worship Auriel and the other divines, or do they simply think themselves descendants of them?

[@xChaosFlower]

Late response but it's a mixture of both

[@GrandpaVince]

Hi guys can you maybe do a video on grandson little billy?

[@highlandoutsider8148]

With the destruction of the Amulet of Kings they could no longer prove the divine right to rule, but, wouldn't the next dragonborn to emerge be able to claim the throne? I dunno, show they can use a bad ass thum to prove they have the blessing of Akatosh?

[@user-ji3ex1iu1q]

Who are the Eight Divines he’s talking about in the video? I know only NINE Divines

[@tomsbrown1266]

You are a very intelligent man

[@slayingcloud4184]

I think a cool idea for a new elder scroll game would be if all the daedra teamed and invaded the planes of nirn and in order to stop it you the player must revive the power of the aedras in order to stop the invasion of the deadra.

[@arabiannights5301]

Kinda too similar of a plot to Oblivion, just on a bigger scale

[@kurisu1204]

Mephala, nocturnal and Clavicus Do exactly that in eso

[@steveno3141]

So who was the first Dragonborn St Alessia or Miraak?

[@thatothermax9299]

Hey, remember that Morag Tong Assassin build? Does anyone know can I effectively play it on Master/Legendary difficulty?

[@insaincaldo]

I don't know what *you* are capable of.

[@arabiannights5301]

Master is pretty easy even with very obscure builds, but legendary is another tale. It all depends on how much running and kiting you're willing to do, plus hiding behind followers until you're a high level. Only way to find out is to test yourself and see what you're able to do.

[@urthofthenewsun8465]

In case anyone is confused, The Eight Divines make more sense if you think of them as the spirits of celestial bodies rather than humanoids. In real life, the Romans named the five planets that could be seen in the night sky after their gods Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. This same kind of astrological worship in The Elder Scrolls explains how there are shared gods within the pantheons of men and mer. It is also commonly accepted that Oblivion is the void between Mundus and Aetherius, containing the planets or ‘realms’ of each Daedric Prince.

[@Vahmung]

We may see them more in TES6 due to the state of how TES5 Skyrim ended. We may see them try to sway courts of High Rock to stay in the Empire. We may also venture to Alcaire where they are trying to create a puppet Emperor bloodline that attaches All 4 major lines into one.

[@twiddlerat9920]

last time i was this early anu still existed

[@steven20653]

Shoot, last time I was this early my wife's boyfriend was still at our house

[@cultofmalgus1310]

unlike our own world in the Elder Scrolls universe it would be extremely hard for someone to be an atheist seeing as their gods often interact with them, even talking to them, saving civilizations, bestowing godly powers unto them....unlike in our own world where if there is a god they are dead silent.

[@Frame_Late]

I'm pretty sure you mean the Nine Divines.

[@chiefwiggi7637]

Talos doesn't count.. haven't you learned nothing of the Thalmor? 🤣🤣

[@danielb3573]

Chief Wiggi you Thalmor boot licker

[@chiefwiggi7637]

Daniel Burroughs by the divines!! Blasphemie!!

[@Valencetheshireman927]

By the NINE!

[@BraddahSpliff]

PRAISE TALOS! The Thalmor will burn for their heresy, & the Empire will crumble for their blasphemy.

[@duchessduke3242]

The video was a little on the quieter side. Just letting you know love u😘

[@chiefwiggi7637]

Nice vid, well done. Quick question, one that always bothered me. If the last Dragonborn would went Cyrodil and claimed the Imperial Throne would he get it because of the deal between Alyssia and Akatosh because of the Dragonblood?

[@chiefwiggi7637]

But the Wolf Queen was bannished in another Realm or not? And the fait of the Dragonborn is still unclear if he lived or died. Anywho he was around and she wasn't but still it's always on my mind

[@chiefwiggi7637]

IC3D JET yeah your right. Haven't played in a long time and somehow forgot. Now I really wanna see a vid about this..😁

[@dutchpatriot17]

No, the Last Dragonborn has no rightful claim for the throne anymore. The whole ordreal of ''Dragonborn = Emperor'' dates back to Reman Cyrodiil, who added the ritual involving the Amulet of Kings and the Dragonfires in becoming a legitimate Emperor. With the Amulet of Kings destroyed, and the Dragonfires no longer existing, this part of the tradition became moot.

[@sorrowdusk5068]

@@dutchpatriot17 Still as They said in the video, the belief that Having Akatosh's blessing is still Culturally ingrained. so yes while the amulet of kings is destroyed the proof of Dragon Blood( as Arngeir said our insane thuee'm were almost distinctive) would give us a lot of credence, Same as the Jagged Crown in Skyrim would give a lot of Credit to whomever we give it to.

[@dutchpatriot17]

@@sorrowdusk5068 There's more to being Emperor than just being Dragonborn.

[@SampoPaalanen]

I wonder if the Thalmor actually empowered both the imperial cult and worship Talos, possibly even extending it to Summerset Isles due to those who want to resist Thalmor seeing it as a rallying call and a symbol of unity.

[@TheStrudelJonny]

morrowind and black marsh seem to always be doing their own thing separate from the rest of tamriel

[@Tom_Bombadillo]

Let me get some Shalidor / clevermen pls

[@oran5518]

This may be unrelated, but I have a question about the Gods of the elder Scrolls. If the humans believe that Akatosh and the aedra where followers of Shezzar, and knew what they where doing when they created mundus, then how do they explain the death of Shezzar/Lorkahn, and the presence of the heart of Lorkahn in Red Mountain? This has been confusing me for a while now.

[@KiinWahKrii]

I'm not sure of the specifics, but I believe that to the humans its believed Shezzar/Lorkahn sacrificed himself for the creation of Nirn and willingly gave his body and heart for it.

[@oran5518]

@@KiinWahKrii that makes sense, thanks

[@Super50ldier]

Guys the correct spelling is 'Shezarr'.

[@blehscary303]

19:27 My personal alternate fantasizing, is that the Redguards take over High Rock, Skyrim, and Cyrodill. And create the Forth Empire of Man.

[@dutchvanderlinde5004]

👍

[@reubenhoughtailing2412]

Morrowind i just paid my way to the top in the imperial cult

[@BurghezulDjentilom]

not gonna lie the first half of the title made me think this is a 40k video

[@bootpringle106]

Wassup fudgemuppet I watched your viking build for fallout four and I noticed you mislabeled tyr as the god of war he was the god of courage it was Odin who was the god of war and wisdom I actually worship the Norse gods

[@feliciastaldotter5168]

🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Phantasmagora]

Me: *Confused in Daedra worship*

[@thenightmare9418]

You know the amulet of kings ? Can our character in skyrim wear it

[@sorrowdusk5068]

It's extremely likely, Reman and Tiber both had dragon blood and most likely weren't direct descendants of Alessia, The Dragon blood is Directly given by Akatosh.

[@sorrowdusk5068]

It was destroyed at the end of Oblivion though.

[@thenightmare9418]

@@sorrowdusk5068 I know it was destroyed but i was just thinking if we would have been able to wear it because we are dragonborn

[@BraddahSpliff]

@@thenightmare9418 According to lore, yes. As Dovahkiin, you have the dragon blood within you, allowing you to wear the amulet. Also basically giving your character claims to the throne of the Empire. Your character in Skyrim is literally the rightful ruler of the Empire, especially after the Emperor gets assassinated by the Dark Brotherhood.

[@steven20653]

@@BraddahSpliff Emperor gets assassinated by your player character you mean lolol

[@siphi9987]

Wait what about talos

[@michaelgrey1503]

I don't think I've ever seen you guys make a mistake like that. (Marucs instead of Martin). It's very surprising.

[@yinzer2231]

Praise mighty Talos

[@noahjohnson935]

9

[@kyleprice6609]

I’d love to see a morrowind remaster.

[@froollazich9820]

Wait eight divines? Where is the man himslef , Tiber Septim AKA Talos AKA THE DUDE WHO CONCIEVED THE EMPIRE

[@Frame_Late]

And don't forget the last dragonborn, the dude who literally killed Alduin.

[@froollazich9820]

@@Frame_Late Let's be honest with ourselves, there should have been an option at the end of the main questline tomake a new empire with dragons and pathrunaarx as the second in command

[@steven20653]

I've never understood why you can't seize control of the Empire. Every game you are doing all the work. Especially in Skyrim. As a Dragon born you could claim divine right of rule and have the power to kill anyone that opposed you.

[@Frame_Late]

@@steven20653 technically, you could claim divine right and what is left of the blades would be sworn to uphold it. It was speculated that the false emperor's that succeeded Martin Septim betrayed the blades so they wouldn't turn on the empire when another dragon-born inevitably appeared. They replaced them with the Penatus Occulatus, who were loyal to the Second Septim Dynasty. If you were able to prove that you were dragon-born, the nords and much or the empire would side with you and you would have grounds to start a succession war, especially if you helped the dark brotherhood kill Uriel Septim. There would be an inexperienced boy king on the throne with subjects that don't respect him, a disloyal army, and a rebellious clergy. And not only could you claim Tiber Septim's line, by you could also claim St. Alesia's as well, since she was made dragon-born by Akatosh to protect the realm of Nirn as long as the Dragonfire were lit and the amulet of kings was held by the dragon blood. You could claim to be a living god abd few would question it. Much of Tamriel would support you then. You also are ten times what Talos was at the end of Skyrim.

[@sirgideonofnir6840]

*hears imperial cult* by the god emperor

[@morrigankasa570]

It is 8 divines just get rid of mean old stendarr

[@wyattwahlgren8883]

Walk always in the light, or we will drag you to it.

[@morrigankasa570]

@@wyattwahlgren8883 ok, me whenever I encounter vigilants of stendarr I kill them they bastards hating on werewolves, vampires, and the daedra I honor. Serana and whenever I am a vampire character we good sorts same for my werewolf character, my none werewolf none vampire character it is because of my daedra buddies I kill the vigilants

[@morrigankasa570]

@Little Doofus they hate on vamps and werefolk and daedra they jerks

[@arabiannights5301]

@@wyattwahlgren8883 Vigilants are worth killing just for the pricey robes and amulet of Stendarr

[@morrigankasa570]

@Little Doofus my character when vamp and serana are decent, my character when werewolf and the rest of the companions are decent, daedra wise sanguine, hircine, meridia, azura, sheogorath all are pretty decent when you encounter them in Skyrim Also the problem with the vigilants are they practice blind hatred and like the thalmor are all about forcing their views on everyone else

[@jonumbao9953]

Hail the god emperor of mankind wait no wrong imperial cult oops I meant talos ight in out

[@trekthehappyturtle454]

Do a morrowind playthrough!!

[@whiterunguard7271]

Hail Sithis...

[@therodyman700]

hold on, elyssia wasn't the first dragonborn, Miraak was the first elyssia was the first dragonborn ruler

[@orchid5996]

Alyssia as alive before miraak

[@somename3424]

I thought miraak was the first dragonborn

[@jmm1233]

In the lands of vvanderfell and morrowind , imperial cult was well not so powerful , even at the time of nerevarine prophecy return and after the fall of tribunal the imperial cult was still little more than small band of missionary tourists , also getting mostly wiped when the war against the nine began

[@dutchpatriot17]

It became the dominant religion in both Vvardenfell and Hlaalu Districts of Morrowind, so they certainly performed rather well.