The MOST INTELLIGENT God? - Elder Scrolls Lore

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In our latest Elder Scrolls video we discuss Hermaeus Mora and Julianos! Would you worship the Daedric Prince, or the Divine?
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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[@Username_Bliss]

Hera Mora may gift you Knowledge, but Julianos would teach you how to apply it. great video as always!

[@revolutionarycomrade]

Herma* fucking skykids

[@skyrim_crossing2839]

@@revolutionarycomrade Hes still Hermaeus Mora in Skyrim 😂

[@windhelmguard5295]

here is my interpretation of the two: julianos represents intelligence and wisdom, the will to learn, but also to teach. and through teaching one can rest assured that new answers will be found by those who come after you. hermaeus mora represents curiosity, the undeniable truth that every answer found will just raise more questions, with there always being more to know, a satisfying conclusion can never be reached.

[@mekelreen9869]

Mr_Bliss Herma Mora is stronger. Julianos is an Aedra. Herma Mora is directly approachable for those capable. He passes on esoteric knowledge. He is also likely very bored having so much knowledge of the past, present and future and is therefore likely to cause mischief.

[@SirHusky654]

Herma Mora will grant you the knowledge of the Godhead, but Julianos will teach you how to achieve CHIM.

[@astartespete]

I used to be a scholar like you, then i took a tentacle in the knee.

[@homarsimpsom]

Or in the chest like that skaal leader did

[@subject8776]

Yeah, let's call it "knee"...

[@GeldtheGelded]

@@subject8776 Hold up

[@zerrierslizer1]

as a great knower of the unkown once said randomly to me whilst i was trekking over the ashy climate of solstheim. THEYRE IN MY HEAD!

[@zerrierslizer1]

@@homarsimpsom i saw you'r profile pic and emidiatly went *AH! so you to are a man of culture i see!*

[@Galimeer5]

Not gonna lie, my heart stopped for a second at that shout out. Thanks!

[@empress9554]

👏🏻wholesome👏🏻

[@chrisdobbs8722]

Galimeer5 Do you know how to get Bethesda to bring oblivion and morrowind to current gen I was hoping the community could get involved and get them to port them bc we are missing out on those games and they are missing out on the sales I’d love to play them

[@bigppenergy3082]

@@chrisdobbs8722 PC.

[@james737er]

Upsetty Spaghetti He’s asking for a community involvement to create a port for newer generations of devices.

[@wolfrayet0042]

@@chrisdobbs8722 no update on Sony or Nintendo but through Xbox you can play TES3-5

[@ysmirwulfharth4012]

This reminds me of a quote from AC1 : *“For in much wisdom, is much grief. And he that increaseth knowledge, increaseth sorrow“* -Al Mualim

[@ysmirwulfharth4012]

Yannkam 212 I know... I chose the better from the the two Fantasy‘s :P

[@dragonslayerornstein387]

@@ysmirwulfharth4012 Much knowledge

[@hordlood]

@@ysmirwulfharth4012 Everyone knows the Bible is a space opera, not a fantasy.

[@hordlood]

@@yannkam2127 Lol I follow Jesus, not his worshippers. I like to think He has a sense of humor, too. I'm probably the most chill christian you'll ever run into.

[@internetzenmaster8952]

@@yannkam2127 Catholic here: currently trying not to burst out laughing because it's 3 AM in the morning and everyone else is asleep after reading that. Top kek. I tip my hat to you good sir.

[@anthonyhernandez7799]

8:10 the way he describes "slipping between the book stacks, into sheogoraths realm" sounds a lot like the backrooms.

[@DemonicaaD14]

The Mad House has many doors and is very easy to enter.

[@TheFos88]

Hell... You're right.

[@bacd-nn2lg]

Hera Mora has the most useful knowledge when you play Skyrim, just one book raises your stats, or gives you infinite magicka for 30 sec.

[@dorianrobinette9712]

fun fact about the 30 second infinite magicka, if your using a spell like sparks that's just continuous you can keep casting it indefinitely. that ability is bugged.

[@james737er]

MrBadBricks is that true? woah

[@coleozaeta6344]

I just make rings or necklaces that give essentially endless magicka.

[@unslaadkrosis3489]

Hermaeus Mora is merely a hoarder of knowledge. He’s not all knowing. Julianos is the personification of logic and wisdom.

[@Practitioner_of_Diogenes]

Exactly. Herma Mora only seeks knowledge to hoard it, nearly all of it never shared with mortals. Julianos not only wants mortals to seek knowledge, but he'd more than likely gladly open doors to search for it, as long as it doesn't involve Herma Mora, as Mora would more than likely take the Julianos scholars from Julianos.

[@nickm2046]

Julianos destroys other gods with FACTS and LOGIC

[@unslaadkrosis3489]

AntiSkillshot the temples of Julianos are literally called “schools.” Herma Mora always has a price for his knowledge. Julianos on the other hand actually wants to teach others.

[@guava4662]

Julianos isn't all-knowing either. Herma Mora specializes in forbidden knowledge, his realm of Apocrypha holds all forbidden knowledge meaning he knows knowledge that both Julianos seeks and keeps secret on top of what Julianos shares with everyone else. I'd say that Herma Mora is at least on par with, likely more knowledgeable than Julianos.

[@rosscross1483]

But logic and wisdom can restrict you in the search for knowledge. It is an interesting comparison. Hermaeus Mora is selfish and immortal, like all daedra, so he has no reason to share information without a price. But Julianos has something to lose, like all aedra. He is, in a sense mortal, and he cares about the world he protects. They could both be equally intelligent, or not. It doesn't matter. It could be that there is loads of knowledge Julianos does not have, either because he could not or did not want to have it. Hermaeus doesn't care. Who knows whether he himself has gone mad in a way, over the thousands of years of unlimited knowledge? But does it even matter? I don't think sanity and modesty are things that matter to immortals. I believe he knows more than Julianos does. It doesn't mean he is smarter or wiser, but it is unreasonable to think Julianos has more knowledge that Hermaeus. But I also think the restriction of knowledge is not a good thing, regardless of who is controlling it. Any true scholar would not follow the word of a god if it stopped him from learning. Julianos is a tad dogmatic, even if he does it with good intentions. He is after all, a god, and following his rules is a form of religion. By nature, religion has to restrict knowledge to a point, since it requires faith. If he restricts some knowledge, his followers have to believe him blindly or break his rules, since without having that knowledge they can't judge if he is right to do so or not. In a sense, it would be rather hypocritical.

[@spider-spectre]

Julianos will walk you through the game, teaching you all the ways to play and how to improve. Hermaeus Mora teaches you how to skip quests, speedrun, and exploit.

[@freddy3238]

Julianos is like college, and Hermaeus Mora is like the internet.

[@pancakes8670]

That's a good description

[@AT-9777]

@@pancakes8670 Yep

[@renatodieke5356]

Really ? You cant find squad online .... hermaeus mora knows more 😂

[@martyschwartzhere9290]

Don't convince me to play skyrim again for the 457th time, lol.

[@tylerpetree4271]

That book you were referencing about the conjuration master who got lost in hypographa, I read that book on my first ever play through and that story stuck with me deeper than any other book in the entire game. The ending was actually more so him saying he still heres his masters whispers to this day but it's all in deadric tongue and he cant even understand it lol. So the dude just has deadric voices in his head and it's his master but he has no idea wtf he's even saying so it's driving him mad like holy fuck what a great little side story. the last sentence of the book is really what sets the tone but I dont remember it word for word. but it was beautiful.

[@spikymarshmallow7611]

Hermaeus Mora has actually grown on me. I still think Hircine is still my favorite Daedric Prince alongside Malacath, but...Hermaeus Mora is just so freaky and fucking....Eww... and I love it! XD

[@chacepassmore6474]

Honestly Hircine or Nocturnal for me

[@rustyfolk9128]

"Intelligent comes from creativity, not from knowledge alone." So that's why i use Hermaus Mora's power to assert my dominance over maidens in distress... Men of cultures shall know the truths behind such atrocious acts!!!

[@Random_Chiroptera]

Knowledge is what you've learned, generally second-hand. Intelligence is your capacity to learn, and apply it practically. I've known a man who knew the ins and outs of any automobile you put in front of him, and how to fix them all. About as intelligent as a box of rocks though. Proven by his ownership of a paid off sedan that had low insurance costs, and ran just fine in extreme cold conditions, and he traded it in for a used car, which left him with payments to make to finish paying it off, much higher insurance costs, and a style of engine that doesn't work in extremely cold climates *AT ALL*. He possessed all the knowledge to know that that trade-in was insanely stupid, but in terms of intelligence, too stupid to apply what he knew any other way than fixing cars.

[@TerrariaGolem]

@@Random_Chiroptera yeah, this is a plague in american sociocultures Dunning-Kruger Effect & the fear of "wasting time" by going to deep connections between arts & sciences. Also, my issue with Skyrim, is that it was Bethesda's first big step in the wrong direction, main streaming to the ignorant. I just like hearing FudgeMuppets narration voice. It's pleasing.

[@justruinedyourday4864]

Tentacles for all😏

[@krispinwah2784]

Yo bro wtf I went to Apocrypha for knowledge on women and how to get one but now my dick is a black tentacle and my balls are weird giant green eyes? How do I get a refund?

[@Random_Chiroptera]

@@krispinwah2784 Congrats! You're every woke woman's porno fantasy... If the frequency of them subbing to rape fantasy porno sites is any indication.

[@glidershower]

I think what sets Julianos and Herma Mora is what set the nine divines apart from daedra: the concept of wisdom vs. ignorance. I don't think Julianos would limitate knowledge as far as wisdom prevails first on its pursuit. Hence why the Tribunal was allowed to exist while they did good, but vanquished by causality once they became self-absorbed, self-serving and wrathful. Herma Mora IMO represents the scholarly type of ignorance, the belief that knowledge is to be hoarded from the masses and only a select few get to join in. Herma's knowledge never grows from within it, it can only be stolen and hoarded for no other reason than to doing so, while tempting scholars into doing his bidding in promise for unlimited power, without realizing Mora is gradually sapping their own knowledge out of them, with the last bit of knowledge being self-awareness. Hence, why people get lost in Apocrypha and remain there forever, even after death. They got Chihiro'd to the max.

[@nicholasmayon6453]

That brings into question that Julianos is supportive of the mages guild and herma mora might be supportive of the psijicc order

[@papanurgle8393]

I'd say that since Mora and his realm is made up of all the *discarded* ideas of creation itself, his hoarding and sapping of knowledge is actually justified. If a scholar comes to Apocrypha for it's knowledge, they're essentially looking to bring back into creation that which was never meant to be, it's only fair then they offer up something from creation in it's place. That idea is kind of explored in the Dragonborn DLC when he wants to learn the Skaal's secrets in return for the power to enslave dragons.

[@moonchild4789]

Herma Mora is one of my favorite daedra lords. What are we without knoweledge haha

[@mcjive4371]

Herma Mora can basically be thought of as the old Catholic church organization, when all holy texts were strictly kept in latin, a language the common people couldn't interpret. By doing this the Church could control the population and restrict knowledge(or power in other words) to a select few who agreed to the terms of the Church.

[@moonchild4789]

McJive Thats a good way to look at it, cause theres always been different "layers" to the knowledge kept, some things of lighter topic which are more commonly known then theres more taboo things (demonic, exorcisms etc) Eitherway you got a good mind there my friend

[@mcjive4371]

@@moonchild4789 Thanks!

[@pedroxavier4227]

0:00 taveler, my potions are too strong for you

[@pancakes8670]

Julianos is often overlooked, I'm glad someone is giving the Aedra some attention. Everyone always focuses on the Daedra because they have cool Quest Lines, forgetting that the Aedra are actually benevolent and will genuinely help you, no strings attached.

[@SeiichirouUta]

Drew's videos are like a progressive rock song: The intro alone is almost as long as the song itself. Interesting topic this time, though. Since I find Hermaeus Mora highly fascinating I enjoyed this video a lot!

[@James-ep2bx]

Best not forget the wisdom part of juleanus's domain, and as often as not wisdom is knowing where not to go. I suspect Juleanus doesn't so much prevent scholars from learning something, as he endeavors to make sure only those that can "safely handle" it learn it

[@blksmagma]

I like that message at the end. Knowledge is worthless without the wisdom to know how to use it. Julianos is just better.

[@trekthehappyturtle454]

Hey can we still get the turtleborn build? I have it written down.

[@loganwoods1590]

Do tell

[@insanegamer23899]

Is it just an Argonian in Dragonbone armor?

[@trekthehappyturtle454]

@@insanegamer23899 nope

[@arthurmorgan1721]

The julianos set in ESO is pretty good

[@sick_of_all_the_lies4207]

These are still my favorite kinds of videos to watch in the morning with my cup of coffee. Keep em coming guys!!!

[@jonathancollins1868]

Great timing. Just began a priest of Julianos RP Build.

[@neph6098]

I just imagine Hermaeus Mora coming out screaming "BIG BRAIN!!!" XD

[@gabrielmarques6595]

Great lore video, as always. I'm anxious to see more the outer worlds builds too

[@yolomcswaggins5920]

Hey man love the videos. You single handedly got me 100x more invested in Elder Scrolls Lore. Was wondering if you had considered doing a video on Morian Zenas? I've heard him mentioned in so many videos but can't seem to find a ton of information on him. He seems like a really interesting character, and would love to hear more about his adventures in Oblivion.

[@JesseNightingale]

6:56 giggity

[@IamaDinosaur]

Miraak's Great Adventure Vol. 1

[@DieEineMieze]

Ma Nigga!

[@theladysamantha193]

I love how Drew does his videos like reading a found journal in game.

[@akaakaakaak5779]

Which god has the biggest brain?- Jyggalag. Why are you not talking about him here?

[@akaakaakaak5779]

B00gie Man sort of, the aspect of Jyggalag I’m referring to is his library, something Sheogorath despised

[@bigtrolldontfallforit393]

@MrBadBricks this is about the elder scrolls not race fuckwit

[@PyroGobbo]

Maybe Julianos is actually Hermaeus Mora or a friend of his. He gets mortals confident enough with knowledge so that they don't fear learning then hide some secrets from them so they are tempted to look where they should not.

[@charlesbalkham6909]

Love your videos guys! Would love to see a video on the various schools of magic craft across tamriel. I know the images guild was stretched across the continent but when you get to the 4th era learning magic breaks down I.e college of winter hold - skyrim Synod/college of whispers - cyrodil But do the other provinces have their own native havens for learning about magic?

[@wrongsalvation8904]

I feel it breaks down even more simply than that. Juliana is a parent. He is someone that will give you the knowledge that you need in order to survive and then more knowledge so you can evolve and become better than last generation. Hermaeus Mora on the other hand, is that Uncle that will give you the firecracker , light it and not tell you to throw it but to study it instead to see how it's going to work. You might lose a hand you might not but you'll still gain knowledge at yours and anyone else is around expense. A parent will protect you where are your Wiley uncle that thinks it's funny will let you go ahead and try that and see what happens. And usually that uncle's laughing afterwards.

[@dorianrobinette9712]

I think it'd be cool to tackle the subject of blackmarsh in a discussion about how blackmarsh could somehow one day be the setting of a main series elder scrolls game. you know getting past his only argonians could survive there. my best if not simple idea is maybe the players character ingested special hist sap that boosted disease resistance or something and maybe the hist trees saw that the player character would save black marsh from some impending doom or something. that's my best idea of how it could be done.

[@ibrahimozanceberut]

i wonder whether deadric princes can have chim or aware of godhead

[@lucyclark6454]

Hey you guys are amazing and half the reason I keep playing elder scrolls (with the exception of morrowind, that'll never stop) amd I just wanted to say your an inspiration

[@antonakesson]

I would see Herma Mora as the librarian while Julianos is the teather

[@hardcoreholman303]

Mora is the only one who might be able to get you your own pocket realm of oblivion by striking a deal that doesn't require a potentially world ending event. Plus who doesn't want to be a mini daedric lord with all the benefits that come with it. I would like to be like mankar with out the insanity and working for dagon.

[@xskippysticky5092]

You should make video about Mortuum Vivicus. It would be nice to see your take on this lost daedric artifact

[@chrisleonard2066]

Man I love the Imperial Cult, it’s like Roman Catholicism + Polytheism + Magic!

[@glidershower]

You just described mexican Catholicism, lolz.

[@luisalvarado6659]

@@glidershower yes

[@chrisleonard2066]

01100110 01110101 01110010 lmao you’re not wrong lol but it’s a more on the European gothic side

[@iooosef6006]

@@glidershower also folk Filipino Roman Catholic

[@etherraichu]

I was searching through all your videos and I noticed something odd. Youve made no mention of Temple Zero. For someone so interested in the lore, it's just very surprising. Anyway, I still love you content!

[@cyberworldturtlestorys]

I got another one for those the (name of something) un(something) the game unforgettable

[@xedrix5563]

Elder scrolls 6 should have an amazing Vampire and Werewolf quest line with skills and gameplay to truly make you feel as though you are one. Something like a sacrosanct etc.

[@awendigowithinternetaccess4400]

This is THE content I subbed for. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@rizuopal8153]

I liked this it was a smooth debate between two very intelligent beings can you do a video on Magnus and Julianos how they seem to work almost like each other or even syrabane the aldmeri wizard god

[@alandonaly457]

This has to be my favorite channel of all my subs.

[@GREENSP0RE]

Fantastic Video

[@shadowstar1002]

Your right about the creativity part. You only have to look at the contest of Sheogorath and Vaermina, or Sheogorath vs Hircine, both instances Sheogorath had it right. Thanks to his insanity he’s been proven to be a secret genius.

[@NightHealer8284]

Combine them both and you get Juliamora

[@awendigowithinternetaccess4400]

THE ULTIMATE DEITY

[@jamdra1982]

I would say Julianos is smarter. With there also being Jyggalag the Daedric Prince of Order and Mathematics. I think that's why there's pretty much double the Daedric Princes as there are Divines. Half of what each of the Daedric Princes need to equal the Divines. Pretty much Jyggalag has all the outside pieces of the jigsaw sorted but only Hermaeus Mora knows what the picture looks like. Julianos knows both though and that there's another clean slate on the other side once the patience to build it has been done.

[@poppedweasel]

Surely Jygyllag is better endowed in the knowledge dept. Sure Hermaeous Mora has loads of tomes, but have you seen his book-keeping?

[@AngelArm1110]

Plot twist, Julianos IS Hermaeus Mora experiencing some kind of identity crisis

[@Leto85]

I've never been this early to one of your videos.

[@maggotofslipknot2926]

I would like the next video to be if the sayasky of akavir being vampiric serpent men if they came from molag bal or born that way

[@PigeonDude]

Tbh, Mora is a pretty chill guy. I’d hang out with him, and since he is a hoarder of knowledge, he actually doesn’t boast (that much). anyone could be a atleast aquatints with this dude.

[@4wilmo]

2:57 I had to stop for a good few moments to think about what "intelligence" would even mean on this level XD

[@solfaur0]

How about Sheogorath? Who once was Jyggalag before basically getting transformed into Sheogorath.

[@TheArklyte]

Lorkhan. Created Tamriel, "fooled" Akatosh in protecting it, reappears from time to time in mortal form to save it and screw over his "kin".

[@Dr.Cosmar]

After watching so many of your videos, I think I finally have a good enough question to ask. What would TESVI look like with the backdrop being a "war of the Gods"? Could this be possible for some of the Deadra and Aedra to join forces and plunder the mortal realm? I imagine Julianos and Hermaeus Mora could crack any veil if united in purpose.

[@akaakaakaak5779]

Surely Julianos is much closer to Jyggalag?

[@mssrodelmap5414]

Hermaous mora did appear to ysgramor in the form of a bunny. So he foes take different shapes.

[@mastahoffman4137]

I would say that Hermaeus Mora is hidden knowledge while Julianos is revealed and unhidden knowledge

[@EBCrisp]

I would like to know more about this scholar. What did he find?

[@arnabsaha9778]

Julianos - Engineer Hermaeus Mora - Theoritical Physicist

[@oooo-sg2cs]

Hermaeus Mora reminds me of something the Quran says "If there were a sea of ink for my Sustainer's words it would not be enough, and thus it would be, for sea upon sea"

[@krispinwah2784]

You Muslim?

[@kairosm5331]

What does the quote mean?

[@oooo-sg2cs]

@@kairosm5331 it's referring to Allah speaking infinitely. It's my favorite, absolute favorite part of the Quran. It's poetic and can be taken to mean anything. I take it to mean the Quran is utterly meaningless in the perspective Allah has, as is religion and human existence.

[@oooo-sg2cs]

@@krispinwah2784 I'm an occultist. I read holy books to learn. I also practice religious customs to learn. Right now I am studying Hinduism. The Bhagavad Gita is very interesting, it's set as a battle between two princes who are brothers. One has God's entire heavenly army at his command and the other has God as his advisor. Interesting situation for sure.

[@krispinwah2784]

@@oooo-sg2cs oh boy! I'm a Muslim but I love to read about other religions and their books, cultures, myths etc

[@busdriver2574]

Any chance you guys will ever do a video on the lore of Enderal: Forgotten Stories?

[@Samzillah]

Yes. I haven't been able to play more than a bit of it since my computer cant really handle it, but it was so interesting a series like that from these guys would be wicked.

[@SenketsuFi]

"know the truth, observe the law, when in doubt, pinky out."

[@arth8265]

Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein is about a doctor who becomes obsessed with creating a being. He wants to be the first scientist to find the secret to life. Dr. Victor Frankenstein goes on to find the partial remains of a dead man. He combines the parts of other dead people, patching them together to form a complete human. Then, he goes on to animate the creature using an unspoken science he had discovered (that the author doesn’t fully elaborate on). The only thing we know is that electricity is the final piece to his medical breakthrough, and is what ultimately animates this being. After it comes to life, things go off the rails, Dr. Frankenstein is terrified of his creation, shouting at it, before he flees his apartment. He returns, only to find it had run away, scared and angry, to be scorned by society, and eventually go on a rampage. There’s a great anonymous quote, I recall from a few years back, “Knowledge is knowing that Frankenstein is not the monster. Wisdom is knowing that Frankenstein is the monster.” Dr. Frankenstein never actually names his creature. It is just called Frankenstein’s Monster. Knowledge means you get this basic fact. Wisdom means you understand that Dr. Frankenstein is the monster because he had no business creating life in the way that he did, impulsively pillaging the remains of bodies, sewing them together, and with little consideration, forcing a tortured being into life simply to satisfy his own ego. And not only that, he rejects the creature, who understands him and is hurt by his creator's disgust with him. Victor Frankenstein, by playing god and feeding his ego, became the very monstrosity he was disgusted by. Knowledge means you know the information. Wisdom means you understand it in a way that most don’t.

[@mcjive4371]

Julianos teaches the pursuit of learning and sharing of knowledge for the betterment of all. Herma-Mora only aims to capitalize on the pursuits of learned men, and hoard the knowledge for himself. He would then use it to gain an unfair advantage on his foes, or as a bargaining piece. Herma-Mora's realm is where scientific discovery goes to die. That's the difference.

[@GreenTheFae]

How about which plain of oblivion might one prefer to explore and maybe even stay ive given the chance

[@whis7952]

This game gave me enlightenment

[@chilldude42001]

I miss the longer videos.

[@coleozaeta6344]

I would choose Hermaeous, and then try to make another world that isn’t the same as the OG Nirn. Maybe I’d just read 1 or 2 pages of a book Hermaeous gave me. I’d hope he lets me come back later if I think I’m ready for more. If he says I can’t come back, then I’d risk insanity by reading more at once. I already know that I’m discarded once his use of me is gone, but hopefully I’d really die and not end up eternally insane or harmed.

[@georgevirtus]

I would pray to Julianos because he won't trap us in a strange and disgusting realm and deceive mortals to serve him which herma Mora did to Mirrak.

[@DarknessBlossoms]

Posted on my birthday. ^-^

[@henrytownshed5304]

I really like the Khajiit. I think they're skooma addiction is funny. They also have the goods

[@michaeleaton6317]

But does Hermaeus Mora know that if you switch to Geico you could save 15% or more on car insurance?

[@ScubaSctimpy]

i think there's more to it than that. julianos's sphere emcompasses learning, which in terms of the elder scrolls i see as acquiring knowledge through the acts of study and experimentation, not a bargain. and as unslaad said hermaeus mora isn't all knowing, all the knowledge he has acquired through the hoarding of the works of others that he then bargains with either for more knowledge or servitude.

[@fishbait9858]

Krosis, Joore

[@wolfancap6897]

Hermaeus Mora is a dragon and his book stacks are his treasure hoard.

[@qwertyqwerty-ek7dy]

I would say Jugalag knew more at his prime.

[@wardeni4806]

I would say not. Jyggalag's sphere was perfect order. Not logic, not wisdom, not knowledge. In many ways Jyggalag is as insane as Sheogorath, as he seeks a thing that can not exist.

[@qwertyqwerty-ek7dy]

Wardeni Within the library was all the knowledge of creation, consisting of logical predictions of the actions, events and deeds of all sentient lifeforms (creature, mortal and Daedra) in existence, that previously existed, and would ever exist, using the logical formulae found within the library.

[@patshultz9824]

@@wardeni4806 being insane doest keep you from being smart jyggalag's sphere is perfect order to have perfect order you must know how everything works to keep it in order and catalog it. Because if you don't know how something works how can you keep it in perfect order.

[@fishbait9858]

@@wardeni4806 but he was the lord of logic. He could and did predict every possible outcome

[@antonakesson]

Could the Mad God trick the old Woodland Man and if he could, in what way? Would Herma Mora also take that trickery well and see it as a learning experience or get furious?

[@antonakesson]

@@botarakutabi1199 Considering there are 16 Accords of Madness, It would seem that Sheogorath had a run in with Herma and seeing how all other books that we know of ended in trickery I would wager Mora also got a taste of Sheo. Plus according to Nord tales Herma was foiled by Sheor into turning the Nords into elves so there is at least a tale where Mora didn't see something comming.

[@RedstoneCuba]

The only thing worse than knowing too little is knowing too much

[@HoundofOdin]

Mermaeus Mora will actually show up if you're awesome enough, but probably screw you over. Julianos won't show up no matter how epic you are, but he probably won't screw you over. I would say it's basically an even trade.

[@markogdon5746]

I hear him say traveler lay down your burdens on the trail. Hey speaking of travelers why does that vampire masquerading as an advisor not wear pants? his overall outfit is similar to The Hunters only being colored Gray and lacking pants

[@pooppancake8750]

Cicero has the biggest brain..... duh.

[@plf7694]

Knowing vs learning, interesting...

[@thewolfpaladin1858]

Do a Nord Raider legacy build

[@GrandMarshalGarithos]

The most intelligent god Hermaeus Mora or Julianos? What a grand and intoxicating innocence.

[@wesleybrown9018]

Would destroying Mundus restore the Aerda's power or destroy what's left of it?

[@hhjk377]

Clearly the answer is Sheogorath.

[@martijnvanweele6204]

I don't really know if responsibility figures into it. From what we gather from his appearances, Hermaeus Mora does not gather knowledge for a purpose. He gathers knowledge for knowledge's sake. Master Neloth is confused about the prince being willing to trade one of the most powerful Dragon Shouts in existance for a few interesting ways to skin a horker, but to Hermaeus Mora, those two are equivalent; knowledge to be hoarded. In this respect, he severely differs from most who follow him, who want to use his knolwedge for a greater purpose. A similar disconnect does not exist, or exists only to a lesser extent between Julianos and his followers.

[@Khaos_Kazuka]

I don't believe that ANY Knowledge should be forbidden, which is why I like Hermaeus Mora, he doesn't judge those who seek knowledge. Yes he challenged you and trys to trap you and drive you insane lol. If I find out that Julianos and the other divines put a limit on mortals mind to prevent certain truths I'm going to devote my time in game to destroy them and their temples. I'm a Mage main with a love for Necromancy whose backstory is to learn all the magical secrets he can and will destroy any who trys to stop him lol. Can't wait to see what happens in Elder Scrolls 6.

[@AngelRaivan8579-xh4fr]

If you could bring certain adra and daedra together they could potentially end up in a perfectly balanced eternal battle, with these two it'd be a firey debate with the soldiers being clerks, researchers and librarians that eternally ferry documents and books and stuff to their respective gods while attempting to prevent the others.

[@johanneos3157]

Ah finally!

[@coachryanmartialarts435]

Elder Scrolls Martial Arts video please!!!!!

[@jongroskin729]

Whose library is bigger, Hermaeus Mora or Jyggalag (pre-burning of course)?

[@kidsipad7779]

More great builds

[@jzargowinterhold1942]

Knowledge vs Wisdom

[@PorktatoesSSRB]

so Hermaeus Mora has Galaxy brain while Julianos only has big brain

[@valendir1]

I mean - yeah. Kind of

[@shadowfirekarp]

Julianos is the internet Hermaeus Mora is 4chan

[@wiibrockster]

Molag Bal is Pornhub

[@randommagos9001]

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