How should Marvel introduce The Mutants to the MCU?

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It's the big question. When the mutants make it into the MCU, how are they going to work and more importantly, why?
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00:00 The Question
00:44 The Mutants
05:27 Should Nick Fury know?
06:59 Why do mutants show up NOW?
08:54 Where is Westview?
10:24 Why do mutants matter?
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@RaptorJesus
@RaptorJesus 2 жыл бұрын
I love making Fury the "reasonable authority figure". He leaves Xavier and Magneto alone...because there's no need to make unessecary enemies, and he might even be somewhat sympathetic to some of their goals.
@singrio
@singrio 2 жыл бұрын
Ooo
@ghanimaatreides5889
@ghanimaatreides5889 2 жыл бұрын
Or Fury will "let them fight" dun dun dun
@amartyakejora5451
@amartyakejora5451 2 жыл бұрын
i also like the idea that Fury might suspect Xavier has some sort of OP psychic ability or device (which he obviously both has) and that's why they've stayed hidden for so long & why he knows not to mess with the bald guy
@ricardoramos1059
@ricardoramos1059 2 жыл бұрын
Id go with fury knows what theyre doing but since xavier is helping mutants with their powers and giving them a safehaven, while magneto secretly frees mutants with no civilian casualties or out right terrorist activity by those he frees fury gives them carte blanche to help mutants until a catalyst event occurs that shifts that paradigm
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 2 жыл бұрын
Even fury said in Avengers there are" people who are becoming unmatched "
@nyrotike8153
@nyrotike8153 2 жыл бұрын
I think the "Why do mutants matter" question is pretty easily answered. They're naturally occurring. People like Iron Man and Ant-Man just have tech that theoretically anyone could get, Cap and Spider-Man are not easily replicated miracles, Moon Knight and Black Panther are avatars of gods, Thor and the Eternals are aliens, but the mutants are humans. They can spring up anywhere and they are frequently called the next step in evolution. Non-mutant people are now afraid they're going to become extinct or obsolete now that super people become commonplace. I do like your idea though. Obviously the mutants have always been a stand-in for minorities but I think a "we need to protect the children!" angle could be particularly relevant in today's day and age as an LGBT allegory.
@fduranthesee
@fduranthesee 2 жыл бұрын
or obviously Neurodivergent people
@ogrejehosephatt37
@ogrejehosephatt37 2 жыл бұрын
"Stop trying to groom our children to be mutants!"
@Nzosaba_Matenge
@Nzosaba_Matenge 2 жыл бұрын
@@ogrejehosephatt37 "have you tried, not being a mutant"
@amartyakejora5451
@amartyakejora5451 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's just not super clear (beyond Cap and Iron Man maybe) how much the public knows about where these heroes get their abilities. Like maybe some people in the MCU can have a Peacemaker-type "aquaman bangs fish" conspiracy because they dont know much about the real person. e.g. maybe they think antman is a deformed human-ant hybrid which is why he has the helmet. again it's not very touched on in-universe. so they might not immediately differentiate someone like spider-man with nightcrawler, for example. but i like the concept of them being openly called the next step in evolution. i know in many stories they are, but what if mutants start popping up and the scientific community starts experimenting, with governments covering up their findings. then someone leaks out that many scientists found the mutant gene to be the the future of human evolution. that stirs a deep fear in a lot of people, particularly ones on the conservative side. little news speech here, blog post there, ad a pinch of ben shapiro youtube ranting and voila you got a society that hates mutants because they feel their humanity is threatened.
@jininycricket7089
@jininycricket7089 2 жыл бұрын
@@amartyakejora5451 I don't know if my memory serves me well but didn't scientist turn someone into a mutant in one of the original x men movies? I believe it went that way with Angel but I cannot remember for the life of me
@exren9830
@exren9830 2 жыл бұрын
I choose to believe the Wolverine vid is on hold because Nando actually got cast as Wolverine and isn't allowed to let it spill yet
@JayHankEdLyon
@JayHankEdLyon 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Daniel Radcliffe :(
@AZWADER
@AZWADER 2 жыл бұрын
I had the idea that "interacting" with an Infinity Stone can activate or strengthen dormant X genes. If you had X genes and got blipped, that's what activated them. This would also retroactively make Scarlet Witch, Quick Silver, and interestingly enough Captain Marvel mutants.
@brunopereira6789
@brunopereira6789 2 жыл бұрын
How would you handle older mutants like Magneto, Xavier and Apocalypse? Have them be affected by some Infinity Stone in the past? Maybe Magneto could have been part of a Hydra experiment with the Tesseract. Hmm.
@jordanhedington2421
@jordanhedington2421 2 жыл бұрын
@@brunopereira6789 this is my only problem with most of these theories. If it’s the snap or teimut or another cosmic energy event that activates dormant x - genes, how would you explain characters that are supposed to have been mutants from birth (or teenage years), the only explanation would be that it was something else that triggered their genes in the past as well
@charlestaylorco8713
@charlestaylorco8713 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanhedington2421 Well to bank off what Robert said I think the explanation is only certain people had their’s activated due to heavy trauma or being in the right/wrong place at the right/wrong time. You can tie Professor X to him loosing his legs to the Shadow Man, Magneto to either the Holocaust or some tragedy that he was forced into, Wolverine and his childhood/the wars he fought, etc. but these are rare occurrences before the snap
@loglorn
@loglorn 2 жыл бұрын
@@brunopereira6789 Agreeing with the Charles here i think the idea is not that this would be the only way to trigger the x gene, just that it'd be much more certain than anything that has happened before.
@frick_____you
@frick_____you 2 жыл бұрын
@@brunopereira6789 The ones whose powers activate without any interference from the stones might be rare exceptions.
@AtomikaBlerd
@AtomikaBlerd 2 жыл бұрын
I want a whole vid of Nando doing his Steven Grant impression.
@Marandahir
@Marandahir 2 жыл бұрын
This
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 2 жыл бұрын
I'm for the mutants have been there the whole time, Xavier just been hiding them while him and Erik work out their relationship.
@amecampeon01
@amecampeon01 2 жыл бұрын
For the Charles thing, I would add that ever since Tony revealed himself to be Iron Man, Charles decided to find and train youngsters to make a team, through the years, as they were growing, they watched the surge of the Avengers, the events of Sokovia and the Civil War, the snap, but now, they're finally ready to go into the world.
@charlemayneshivers4985
@charlemayneshivers4985 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@DragunovWayne
@DragunovWayne 11 ай бұрын
I have two theories 1: That the X-Men are hiding in Krakoa and after Secret Wars they will return to form the team 2: That maybe the X-Men don't exist yet and all mutants are discovering themselves and then Professor X will go after them offering their parents to be at Xavier School
@jacksim5759
@jacksim5759 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the vulture, famous X-Men villain along with Jared "Morb" Leto. fantastic video as always nando, had lots of fun with this
@haroldnecmann7040
@haroldnecmann7040 2 жыл бұрын
Morbtan
@zachfantini9455
@zachfantini9455 2 жыл бұрын
I think my interpretation on why mutants could be hated in the mcu is because their powers are natural, it’s in their DNA, they would be the only characters (minus thor) who’s powers are not given to them but already had. So you could very much still have the original message of racism and homophobia in the movies and have it be hypocritical. Have the powers happen when they’re young (much like kids coming out) and their parents either disowning them or accepting it. I think having the idea that the mcu heroes are characters who obtained their powers rather than had it would be interesting
@pathevermore3683
@pathevermore3683 2 жыл бұрын
That is not your interpretation, that is Stan Lee's interpretation.
@Kompatainment
@Kompatainment 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Also right now there aren't that many superpowered beings in the MCU and the ones that exist all chose the be heroes and protect mankind. The mutants however tried to live a normal life and did nothing. This could also upset a lot of people. For dumb reasons of course, but that's how racism works.
@happyguy2k
@happyguy2k 2 жыл бұрын
Also because when they are young people are accidentally killing others so adding that to it too
@Killinemkid
@Killinemkid 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like a post-Snap world would have a simple explanation for hating mutants. Their lives were destroyed by superhumans.
@quietman208
@quietman208 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why people in Marvel hate mutants but not superheroes is because they’re afraid of their children being superfreaks. It’s cute and cool when Spider-Man does it but when your 14 year old daughter turns into a green Hulk like monster it stops being fun. I think they should make the majority of mutants in the MCU have some physical deformity just to make them even more “scary” to average people.
@killerklown94
@killerklown94 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your idea of the "think of the children angle" I would do that, but supplement it with the reveal/confirmation that Wanda was indeed a mutant. The whole controversy of what she did in Westview would compound with and help feed the moral panic that "Our children are being indoctrinated by monsters like her!"
@ishaanupreti6438
@ishaanupreti6438 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think we can now have the classic X-Men mutants vs humans, as the people of Earth-616 have just embraced the reality of supernatural things existing in their world.
@arnahunas4048
@arnahunas4048 2 жыл бұрын
While I do agree, I still think mutants should be oppressed and hated in some way, because there’s no point if they aren’t.
@sorchara9119
@sorchara9119 2 жыл бұрын
i think bc average humans have been so deeply affected by superhero adjacent beings and events, having these people "hiding among us" is perfectly suitable to the mcu. mutants have always been a vehicle to parody and criticize republican media men, and their rhetoric. i can perfectly see a j jonah jameson character spreading fear about the next thanos in your childrens' classroom
@jonasquinn7977
@jonasquinn7977 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair that’s also true in the comics and that doesn’t stop it there Plus I think you can argue that there’s a difference between accepting technology, magic and the occasional super soldier and accepting the existence of an entirely new race of superhumans that are supposedly destined to replace regular humanity
@RapidFireApple
@RapidFireApple 2 жыл бұрын
All it takes is one bad mutant to make the world fear of the next bad one is among them
@Etticos.
@Etticos. 2 жыл бұрын
In the MCU, powers typically come from accidents and experimentation. People suddenly being born naturally with powers could make the non powered jealous and bigoted.
@inionanbas615
@inionanbas615 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that Nick Fury and Xavier have meetings every month or so to update on mutant affairs. So long as there are no huge threats to humanity or mutantkind, those meetings are then suppressed in Fury's mind by exavier so he only remembers them when he meets with Xavier, or an emergency occurs.
@fisheyenomiko
@fisheyenomiko 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, one thing I will say: I really don't want an event to "make" people into mutants, in the sense that just happens to random people. But I would be ok if some event "woke up" the x-gene in mutants. I'd also be ok with them already existing and just flying waaaaay below the radar. "X-Men Evolution" was awesome! Best Nightcrawler outside of the comics version.
@KermitWithAShotgun
@KermitWithAShotgun 2 жыл бұрын
To me, the cleanest way to pull off adding mutants to the MCU is if they've just been there all along. I'd love it if the first X-Men movie took place in the '60s with a version of the classic team, and ended with Xavier's decision to use his telepathy to hide mutants from the world. Then the second X-Men movie can start in the "present" MCU with Xavier's death, leading to mutants being rediscovered by the world at large.
@davidmedinaortega9859
@davidmedinaortega9859 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting, but i would prefer to see Xavier alive all the way towards the next Infinity War like event
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Ms. Marvel, I think you got your wish.
@DragunovWayne
@DragunovWayne 11 ай бұрын
I have two theories 1: That the X-Men are hiding in Krakoa and after Secret Wars they will return to form the team 2: That maybe the X-Men don't exist yet and all mutants are discovering themselves and then Professor X will go after them offering their parents to be at Xavier School
@ZeroFox795
@ZeroFox795 9 ай бұрын
The only problem I have with this is that for the original team to have been formed in the 60's would mean that they were at least teenagers then. So by 2026 ( or whatever the current year is in the MCU) Scott and Jean and Beast would all be at least in their 70's. Not to mention Xavier and Magneto being 80+.
@ZeroFox795
@ZeroFox795 9 ай бұрын
@@DragunovWayne l like your second one. The MCU thrived during the buildup of new characters and origin stories. If they intend to make it last for another decade or so, then they probably should use this opportunity to refocus on those new additions. And treat each new character to their own origin and recruitment into the new super team.
@scarletspdstr_
@scarletspdstr_ 2 жыл бұрын
There's a concept I've had for a while for Mutants in the MCU, and basically, just plaigarize the Inhumans but with Infinity Stones. Basically, make it so the X-Gene is dormant in a select group of people, and is activated by Infinity Stone Energy (Like with Wanda and Pietro). After both of the Snaps, every mutant worldwide suddeny had their powers activate. This allows for mutants to have existed before, but the majority of the rise of the mutant population be a recent development, and an urgent issue to deal with. As well, we can explain older mutans like Magneto. Maybe in his case, he got his powers from Hydra experimentation.
@arnahunas4048
@arnahunas4048 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like this idea. Erik getting this powers thanks to Hydra gives him a solid connection between Pierto & Wanda.
@Kekkersboy
@Kekkersboy 2 жыл бұрын
My issue with this is that Mutants being simply just naturally occurring is rather core to the theme. If they get induced like inhumans it takes away something important.
@TheMastaCharzangle
@TheMastaCharzangle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kekkersboy I agree. However I would also be fine with a nice middle ground. Perhaps there were mutants for years and years, but they either never made themselves present or were just doing things in secret. It’s not until a massive amount of the population starts unlocking mutations that the X-Men and other major characters come out of hiding.
@jonasquinn7977
@jonasquinn7977 2 жыл бұрын
This was always my preferred theory until MoM, it would have also allowed them to say that some mutants like Xavier, Magneto and Apocalypse existed previously and gained their powers naturally but they were just such a statistical anomaly that they went completely unnoticed
@fewntug3760
@fewntug3760 2 жыл бұрын
@@arnahunas4048 so not a biological father, but a father in spirit
@kyleharlan100
@kyleharlan100 2 жыл бұрын
I think Charles should have been suppressing memories for decades to keep the public mutant clashes under wraps. The X-Men's whole mission has been to brush mutant messes under the rug and keep them from drawing negative attention. The X-Men movies should start with Charles dying of old age, which means they can't hide anymore. We've had more than enough Charles in the movies, let Scott actually lead. He can seek out Emma Frost to ask for her help in keeping them secret, and she can be all like "Nah, I'm starting my own school where we aren't afraid to be mutants", and force Scott and the X-Men to "evolve" with the times and "come out of the closet" publicly and put forward a positive face for mutants so that Emma's school and the Brotherhood don't immediately draw hate.
@maninthetrenchcoat5603
@maninthetrenchcoat5603 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of this idea
@davidbutler3917
@davidbutler3917 2 жыл бұрын
Love it
@Diegoxo9
@Diegoxo9 2 жыл бұрын
My only issue is where were the x-men during the events of the snap and other world events? Also what missions and other training have they accomplished.
@omegajoex
@omegajoex Жыл бұрын
This is kinda like my idea i have but instead of Charles dying he gets snapped due to thanos and when he gets resnapped from hulk and try to help them
@fabersonchequi2782
@fabersonchequi2782 Жыл бұрын
@@Diegoxo9 I think they would probably have disappeared in somewhere around late 90’s or early 2000’s. I believe they had many adventures but decided that there no matter what they do they Mutants are hunted and everything is tragic. Xavier or other character erased worlds memory AND surpressed the gene.
@rosesanchez1252
@rosesanchez1252 2 жыл бұрын
So one idea, what if some of the fear, comes with people who came back from the flip with obvious mutant powers. The idea that maybe a child came back looking different or even "monstrous" or with a "death touch" could lead to parents abandoned their child, beings cared of them. The idea that to these scared, superstitious parents angry or afraid that their child came back "wrong." There is a chance we would then see a lot of homeless, a lot of scared kids with powers they don't understand, trying to find their place in the world. Ripe for all sorts of people to take advantage of, or try to help in their own way. A story like that could actually be very changeling-esque( As in the old folklore).
@santiagogarza8121
@santiagogarza8121 2 жыл бұрын
Making it so the snap/blip activates the gene could be am alegory for sntivaxers and autism
@Termite30
@Termite30 2 жыл бұрын
But what about ancient mutants like The Externals (Apocalypse, Selene, etc.)? What about their comic histories?
@rosesanchez1252
@rosesanchez1252 2 жыл бұрын
Do it like nando said, have some mutants exist pre snap. Ancient ones and small pockets nothing big enough to start a scene in the modern Era. Also I'm not saying it's the way to go but it not like mcu is known for being 100% accurate to a characters history, or heck in some cases even try to be accurate. The mcu has always been about sticking closer to themes and broad concepts about the heroes. And I would argue even then they change those or get it wrong. I'm not saying that's the right way to do things just that it's a fact about how the mcu works
@brooksbrigmon2533
@brooksbrigmon2533 2 жыл бұрын
I think having the mutants as a group that have kept to themselves for all this time, refusing the call to action despite the chaos around them, and finally giving in and outing their existence would both give explanation to them not being known, and start the conflict of them vs society.
@BikoFactory
@BikoFactory 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I'm kinda sick of all the secret societies that have been hanging around for decades. Each one they add just seems more and more implausible.
@brooksbrigmon2533
@brooksbrigmon2533 2 жыл бұрын
@@BikoFactory Yeah that’s fair
@kitothekito915
@kitothekito915 Жыл бұрын
Brooksbrigmon2533 that might make sense if apocalypse the mutant didn’t exist
@deidara07
@deidara07 2 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping they would be introduced into the MCU by the snap that brought everyone back. I thought maybe since they were technically recreated we could have a large amount of people come back with altered DNA that brought about their powers. Edit: I just got to the part in the video where you bring this up and I'm so happy you thought the same. Lol
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 2 жыл бұрын
I think you being very, VERY focused on hatred of mutants originating from kids hits hard right now. “Protecting kids” is the main argument against LGBTQ rights these days, specifically trans rights. I think if the MCU mutants take the direction you’re thinking, they could have some very interesting things to say about that
@requiem6465
@requiem6465 2 жыл бұрын
It's great since the X-Men were created specifically to explore discrimination in both why and how people are discriminated against and the affect it has on both the individual and societal level.
@loferx
@loferx 2 жыл бұрын
ooh now that's a very interesting angle
@globesurfer122
@globesurfer122 2 жыл бұрын
Protecting kids from transitioning when theyre extremely young is the right thing to do.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec 2 жыл бұрын
@@globesurfer122 There’s that and then there’s “just look away from the trans, do not interact with a trans just ignore them”
@globesurfer122
@globesurfer122 2 жыл бұрын
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec agreed!
@reds.3873
@reds.3873 2 жыл бұрын
I feel mutant hate has been getting set up due to recent public backlash towards super humans, Spider-Man "killing" Mysterio, Wanda holding a town captive and to a lesser extent John Walker publicly executing someone and the Flag Smashers in general, this i feel could lead to a fear of unknown super people making it so that when random super folks start showing up it leads to an almost instant disdain for them
@anthonyfarrar1738
@anthonyfarrar1738 2 жыл бұрын
Building on what you said about Nick Fury: He has an agent in Westchester “spying” on the school as a teacher, Sean Cassiday the Banshee. This makes Banshee a little older than the rest. Its comic accurate because Sean is an agent of SHIELD. He also could be a double agent because not only did Xavier find out he is a SHIELD agent, but he is also a mutant. Then we turn this into the Generation X movie.
@meep9231
@meep9231 2 жыл бұрын
That actually makes sense, I like it
@Icepick614
@Icepick614 2 жыл бұрын
I still like the idea that a House of M type event happened maybe around the 60s where all the mutants disappeared from existence including knowledge of them. Then something could have undone that and the mutants could come back like from the snap where they come back exactly as they left.
@Etticos.
@Etticos. 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the snaps could explain all of it. The blip snap’s energy could have activated dormant x genes in the present leading to mutants in the present, while any of the snaps, and specifically the reality stone and time stone, could have changed the past leading to the long lived mutants. The one thing that is most important to me is that the MCU does there own thing with mutants and doesn’t use any of the Fox stuff.
@therockingvolbeat3630
@therockingvolbeat3630 2 жыл бұрын
No no no… none of this the stones changed the past thing. Just have Xavier hiding the academy with a few mutants and a few independent mutants like Logan and magnito scattered around the world. Then have the blip activate the x gene in more people causing mutants to become more public.
@abramreyes
@abramreyes 2 жыл бұрын
NO! The X-Men are not Inhumans
@DonMegaPLP
@DonMegaPLP 2 жыл бұрын
Could be an interesting call back. When Marvel was leaning on X-Men in the 80s/90s they played with the idea of making Falcon and a mutant. Same with Cloak and Dagger and a couple others.
@valdirberbert9361
@valdirberbert9361 2 жыл бұрын
That works a lot, I thought of them using Scarlet Witch to retcon Mutants into existence, but this makes more sense given that Wanda herself had powers way before the mind stone interaction
@jaydenacostaheller
@jaydenacostaheller 2 жыл бұрын
When the first Multiverse of Madness trailers were coming out, I had this theory on how mutants would appear. My idea was that Wanda would be tried by the Illuminati for the crime of ridding her universe of mutants. So the idea was, her famous “No More Mutants” line already happened and we would see flashbacks and she would undo it by the end. Obviously that didn’t happen but it was a cool idea at the time
@Xlaeflicks
@Xlaeflicks 2 жыл бұрын
That would’ve been cool but Wanda kinda didn’t know she was a mutant until… well she still apparently doesn’t.
@siliconmonday
@siliconmonday Жыл бұрын
Here from the Ms. Marvel finale. They just did.
@dangibbins5435
@dangibbins5435 2 жыл бұрын
What I've been wondering since Multiverse of Madness is, did they introduce Incursions so that in 5-10 years, they can reboot the whole MCU with younger, re-cast versions (or horrifying de-aged deep faked simulacra) of Tony, Steve, Natasha, and anyone else who maybe aged out of the franchise? And if so... are they stalling on introducing the X-Men so that they can just say this new rebooted 616 also has mutants and always did? I'm probably not right but I could be.
@jonasquinn7977
@jonasquinn7977 2 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt they’d use it to reset the whole MCU IMO it’s way more likely that they use the incursion to have mutants come into existence and retconned to have always existed but leave the rest of the MCU untouched
@haruhirogrimgar6047
@haruhirogrimgar6047 2 жыл бұрын
They seem to be pretty okay with just leaving behind some characters and letting new ones come to the forefront. I doubt it will be any time soon we get a new Tony Stark.
@dangibbins5435
@dangibbins5435 2 жыл бұрын
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Absolutely they do. But a lot can happen in the amount of time it would take to set up a Secret Wars movie to do a reboot.
@haruhirogrimgar6047
@haruhirogrimgar6047 2 жыл бұрын
@@dangibbins5435 I feel like they would lose a lot of audience members with any kind of reboot. Any dedicated MCU fan I have talked to makes it very clear they watch most of the movies or shows specifically because of them being in the same continuity. They see me as crazy for liking how DC keeps Young Justice completely separate from the Harley Quinn show and that from The Suicide Squad. They like the idea of some new hero taking the place of Iron Man rather than there ever being another Tony Stark. As soon as you do a reboot a ton of them are going to jump ship since quote "none of it matters at that point."
@dangibbins5435
@dangibbins5435 2 жыл бұрын
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 As I say, I may well be wrong. I often am on such matters.
@redtutel
@redtutel Жыл бұрын
The Ms Marvel finale implies that your pitch might be the direction they take
@AndorRobotnik
@AndorRobotnik 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how you manage to create these so smoothly
@toanuva6178
@toanuva6178 2 жыл бұрын
Personally thought that you could explain Mutants' sudden arrival would be due to the cosmic radiation from using all six Stones three separate times on Earth has begun to seep into the population and give aspects of the stones’ power to humans. So Mutants like Cyclops or Gambit would’ve gotten their Lazers and Kinetic abilities from the Power Stone, Charles’s Physic ability from the Mind Stone, Mystique’s Shape-Shifting from the Reality Stone, Nightcrawler’s Teleportation from the Space Stone, and so on. Kinda like how Wanda’s (pre retcon) and Pietro's powers originated in the MCU from them being ‘Mutated’ by Strucker’s Experiments with the Scepter. And I kinda prefer this over Mutants just existing all this time, because then it’d be using developments we’ve seen on screen as a jumping-off point. And Movie watchers and characters in Universe could look at this rise of Mutants and say “Oh, we’ve seen this before, it’s like that on mass cause of what both Thanos and the Avengers have done”.
@jorgec98
@jorgec98 2 жыл бұрын
Heh. Pedro
@toanuva6178
@toanuva6178 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorgec98 Don’t known how I messed that one up
@arthurshelby2133
@arthurshelby2133 2 жыл бұрын
But then that takes away from characters history like wolverine, or magneto and apocalypse
@Jatzuh1
@Jatzuh1 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurshelby2133 I think it would be better if the stones would have “amplified” their powers. Kinda like how we saw Wanda had some sort of powers when she was a kid in WandaVision
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake 2 жыл бұрын
Could do it like Morrison's run. Mutants existed, X-gene was latent, then the Phoenix Force activated millions of X-genes. Replace Phoenix with Infinity Stones.
@brandonpike7046
@brandonpike7046 2 жыл бұрын
Literally been waiting for this video!
@GameReaper740
@GameReaper740 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're back Nando!
@lonebattledroid4474
@lonebattledroid4474 2 жыл бұрын
I also hope we get to see more sides of how people view/treat mutants. Like maybe parents who don't hate their mutant kids are concerned about them going off and becoming superheroes, since thanks to them growing up in Superhero culture they likely would want to go off and do dangerous stuff. Or maybe we could see the 2-faceness of the media and Hollywood. Where they praise and pat themselves on the back for how "educated" they are even though they don't care about them and just want to use them to get more attention. (Heck that would be an awesome story for Dazzler). And we could see how people who are accepting and sympathetic to mutants can still be worried about how they use their powers (say what you want about X-3 but the scene where the president and Beast talk about weaponizing the cure was great.) Basically, I hope we don't just get the standard bigotry angle we've gotten from most of the previous X Films that all amount to them saying, "Prejudice is bad."
@tomyoung9834
@tomyoung9834 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos!
@michaelharris7157
@michaelharris7157 2 жыл бұрын
Deadpool sees a file titled “Mutants” and saves it in a folder titled “Disney”. Boom 💥 mutants in the MCU
@sofiamn_05
@sofiamn_05 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel should probably hire you. You'd even have like an Assistant Kevin Feige title (similar to assistant director, etc)
@MegaSharkX
@MegaSharkX 2 жыл бұрын
Assistant to the regional Feige
@dabloons4days
@dabloons4days 2 жыл бұрын
yay nando video on my birthday :)
@philopharynx7910
@philopharynx7910 2 жыл бұрын
The hex making mutants is my favorite. Because I want to see what powers Darcy gets. Then she teams up with Agent Woo as they go around troubleshooting strange events.
@LucasSpurrell
@LucasSpurrell Жыл бұрын
Charl! Now THAT is the crossover I've been waiting for.
@iamalittler
@iamalittler 2 жыл бұрын
Charl ❤️ I always liked the idea of Deadpool showing up in the MCU, and, having nowhere to go, finds the Xavier institute. *knock knock* “Hello?” “Wait, you’re not James McAvoy!”
@davidpalay361
@davidpalay361 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one!
@Jeffinently
@Jeffinently 2 жыл бұрын
A simple explanation that I don’t see people talking about is, have deadpool be captured by the tva for the post credit for deadpool 2 and escape into the MCU, just say deadpool caused an incursion, make a avengers vs x men movie with the og cast (-Hugh) and have everyone die (except wade with his healing) and say the x gene is floating around, kinda like terrigen
@sin7ster
@sin7ster 2 жыл бұрын
I want mutants to be created by Mister Sinister and have him be the X-Men's main villain. The mutant kids angle would be very dark, but I welcome it since the idea of mutants being hated and feared is super important
@Bowman2point0
@Bowman2point0 2 жыл бұрын
love the Jingle All the Way Pops on your shelf!
@benparrish672
@benparrish672 2 жыл бұрын
Warren Worthington the 3rd Archangel is the most underrated X-Men character & low key has an OP powerset
@StephenDukenski
@StephenDukenski 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that’s occurred to me watching this video, and reflecting on our world, is this: If mutants existed HERE, the crowd who hates and fears them would probably be the same crowd as the anti-science, anti-intellectual, did-my-own-research crowd. Like, I think we’ve come to know these people better over the last few years than ever before. In the MCU, these are the people who would think the x-gene is a fake news cover story, or some woke agenda, or pharma conspiracy, or cover for some New York intellectual to come swoop up their kids, and groom and traffic them. Their pastor (like Stryker) tells them “the truth” - that mutation is a result of sin and social contagion.
@moviesaredope
@moviesaredope 2 жыл бұрын
I never noticed your Statesman Bourbon before... Very nice 😎
@starvinforGarvin
@starvinforGarvin 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to think that they were always there and Xavier was removing the memories of them from the population. A flash back showing them fighting beside the avengers in new york during the first avengers movie would be kinda cool.
@DragunovWayne
@DragunovWayne 11 ай бұрын
I like the idea of them still being discovering themselves with their powers but Stryker appears saying that mutants are a threat to the world and so they are running away from home, some hiding their powers and Charles appears to help them
@Pentalaimon
@Pentalaimon 2 жыл бұрын
Did a double take while listening when you mentioned Leonia, NJ. I live here and it's kinda neat to see this tiny township referenced in an X-men comic of all places.
@mwkcope
@mwkcope 2 жыл бұрын
5:47 An interesting note about the Weapon Plus program--it's technically already canon, and has been since The Incredible Hulk. If you look at the cold storage canister Ross gets the Super Soldier Serum he uses on Emil Blonsky from, it says "PROGRAM: WEAPONS PLUS." I've always been curious about that, if they had some plan with that where they planned to strike some deal with Fox like they have Sony for Spidey, and it fell through after that prop was finalized.
@eljaydillinger
@eljaydillinger 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, subscribed to Nebula specifically for you and your extra content tbh, and I love the extra content. My only complaint is with the app itself. You can’t minimize or turn your screen off and have it continue to play the media like you can with other streaming apps. Is there a setting in the works for that?
@theXVthshadow
@theXVthshadow 2 жыл бұрын
I personally see this going one of two ways: 1. Time shennigans because of Loki/Quantumania/others retcon the universe so that mutants have always existed. Sort of how big comic events like Crisis on Infinite Earths rewrite the history of the universe because wibbly wobbly spacey wacey. 2. Mutants have always existed, but in very small numbers. You can have your Magnetos, Apocalypses, etc. The mutant population exists, but is very small. In the hundreds max. But the Blip causes something similar to the Terrigen Mist where somehow it activates the latent X-Gene in a bunch of people. Suddenly the mutant population skyrockets. This means you can do a combination of stories set in the past with the small amounts of mutants and sort of a "Brave New World" situation where all of a sudden, mutants exist and are in the public consciousness. As for why people hate them....well, racism and homophobia still exist to this day. People fear what they don't understand. I can totally see guys like Stryker fanning the fans of uncertainty to full blown hatred.
@DragunovWayne
@DragunovWayne 11 ай бұрын
I like the second idea, it really doesn't need to be with the X-Men formed and yes they are all still discovering themselves until they start to be seen as a threat to humanity, their parents kick them out of the house and then Charles shows up to help them and be trained to form a team and thus be ready to save the world
@AneENT
@AneENT 2 жыл бұрын
MUCH LOVE FROM NEWARK NJ
@josephupchurch7138
@josephupchurch7138 Жыл бұрын
I like your idea, Nando. It totally works given how they constructed the MCU. Awesome 👏🤘
@mlcorcor
@mlcorcor 2 жыл бұрын
Mount Wundagore was featured in Multiverse of Madness. In the comics it's the home base of the High Evolutionary, an X-Men villain. That could be a way in for mutants to the MCU similar to your Westview angle.
@larryfoulkeofficial8609
@larryfoulkeofficial8609 2 жыл бұрын
Gotg 3 seems to have him living on halfworld/counter-earth
@circamagoo
@circamagoo 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that mutants have been in the MCU and simply absent from the focus of our existing lore. The world is a big place. Ursa Major in Black Widow is a great example of how Id like to see others introduced.
@HeavyC31190
@HeavyC31190 2 жыл бұрын
Nando! I’ve lived in Ridgefield Park and Hackensack all my life.
@kevandre
@kevandre 2 жыл бұрын
prior to watching multiverse of madness I was like "Yo they're gonna pull an anti-House of M and Wanda's just gonna meet Professor X and he's gonna tell her about mutants in the alternate universe and she's gonna go back home to her universe and just say 'More Mutants' and then there were mutants" ...not sure I still think that now lol
@pikeyMcBarkin
@pikeyMcBarkin 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your view points.
@fit7price
@fit7price 2 жыл бұрын
love your ideas about Xavier and SHIELD, and this occurred to me: you could make Tessa/Sage a plant within SHIELD, like comics-Sage was in the Hellfire Club- she's in deep cover & helps Xavier keep his students off SHEILD's radar, as well as intelligence gathering to keep tabs on how much SHIELD knows about "the mutant concern". this could also pivot into SWORD and Abigail Brand too, just a thought!!
@ishaanupreti6438
@ishaanupreti6438 2 жыл бұрын
You had me with your Steven impression.
@bagel4404
@bagel4404 Жыл бұрын
assuming i'm not making up subtext at 11:44, i really like the allegory here. maintains the role the mutants have always held, but modernizes it. hopefully it's done well and persuades a few people.
@TakeshiYoung
@TakeshiYoung Жыл бұрын
Awesome Steven Grant impression! 🤣🤣🤣
@thatonkgau5221
@thatonkgau5221 9 ай бұрын
Could you do a casting video for Cyclops next and also write him an arc he's so underrated and deserves more respect.
@edbaitedyou6955
@edbaitedyou6955 2 жыл бұрын
I like your infinity gauntlet snap idea
@RealCosmicFilms
@RealCosmicFilms 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a genius, I genuinely didn’t think about it this way but your pitch is definitely the best way they can introduce mutants and the X-Men
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 Жыл бұрын
I had an idea for the MCU version of the Phoenix Force, and how to tie it to the greater MCU. Tie it to the Infinity Stones. Idea is, everytime anyone ever used the Stones, any of the Stones, there was always some kind of excess energy byproduct released. Over the course of millions of years of the Stones being used, all this excess energy finally comes together and coalesces into one new being: The Phoenix Force. Hence, the Phoenix is basically the successor to the Infinity Stones.
@ulrichvonlichtensteinjr.2052
@ulrichvonlichtensteinjr.2052 2 жыл бұрын
My personal theory is that people with a dormant x gene get it activated by interacting with cosmic radiation and the infinity stones. I think we’ve seen this already with Wanda, Pietro, and Monica. Maybe even the hulk and captain Marvel. Then because of the snap the mutants could start popping up.
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah 2 жыл бұрын
in the first Iron man movie, when Tony is testing his new suit, he goes past a Ferris wheel, and sees a kid eating ice cream, while we are distracted by that, Jarvis is telling him about the last record broke by the Blackbird going into Space, they went into space in Dark Phoenix, to rescue the astronauts
@outofideas42
@outofideas42 Жыл бұрын
Striker NEEDS to be the first villain for all the reasons you spoke about him. He comes out swinging with hatred to establish that these heroes are different and persecuted. I think he'd play a similar exposition esque role that riddler played in the batman - using societal trouble as a way to both act villainous and establish lore.
@TVandManga
@TVandManga 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@chipsloll
@chipsloll 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Eternals was in phase 4 to help push the idea of an x-gene existing through the deviants and eternals and evolution. If it were up to my, I'd have something in the upcoming "The Marvels" movie introduce the kree as people who experimented on early humans, before the eternals ever arrived, causing to the growth of the x-gene and mutants
@stevejames7930
@stevejames7930 2 жыл бұрын
Dude this video is so amazing! I love and agree with everything you said. And I think the idea of the world ostrasizing the Mutants is fascinating. I rly hope they do that in the MCU
@billythedoor
@billythedoor 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely wasn't expecting a segment involving New Jersey geography. I always assumed it was a south jersey town since it's more farmy - you know - the pork roll/hoagie part.
@mottvlogs9
@mottvlogs9 2 жыл бұрын
I love Ridgefield , my dad actually lived there as a kid , and though I live in upstate NY, I go down there every few months cause my buddy does wrestling shows at the VFW there
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Besides Wandavision, the other Ridgefieldy thing I always forget to mention is that Wedding Singer takes place in Ridgefield. I wonder if people from Ridgefield who were older when that movie came out lost their mind?
@an8strengthkobold360
@an8strengthkobold360 28 күн бұрын
Cyclopes specifically would be a great group 0 for the mutant panic. His ability going off for the first time in a building (or more specifically in a school) would be disastrous.
@jameslooker4791
@jameslooker4791 Жыл бұрын
I still get goosebumps reading, "Remember Newtown."
@Panthror
@Panthror 2 жыл бұрын
Fury knowing about the Weapons + program makes total sense: It was based on the Super Soldier program, trying to make more super soldiers. Fury knows about the Super Soldier program through Captain America. Then there's the program General Ross puts Emil Blonsky through in The Incredible Hulk, creating the Abomination. Fury also knows about this. And although not specifically mentioned in the MCU, this would've been the Weapons 9/IX project, and after being deemed a failure, the Weapons X/10 project would be started, creating Wolverine. And then Weapons 11, which gave us Deadpool.
@Michael_Chico
@Michael_Chico 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Lucky Jim idea should DEFINITELY be used!!
@asellape9270
@asellape9270 2 жыл бұрын
I think there’s no easy, fluid way to do this. They’re just gonna have to shove mutants in there at some point, and we’re just gonna roll with it.
@BluBearGaming
@BluBearGaming 2 жыл бұрын
this is unfortunately the likely reality. there's so many moving parts that I'm not sure if the X-Men could be faithfully and fully integrated into the MCU. If a bunch of other things have an answer, one problem is still left. If you answer that problem with a new set of solutions, then something else becomes an issue. and so on.
@theonewhowokeup9987
@theonewhowokeup9987 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel you on that one. I just hope that it wouldn't be a blunder Kevin Fiege gotta stick it for the dismount. And old school fans of the X-men like myself and all who watched this video are truthfully looking to compare it with X-men TAS. I know that it's not fair and rightfully so, I'm just calling it like I see it. If they mess this up heads will roll on social media and I think the MCU super lotto numbers begin diminishing.
@blacksupreme777
@blacksupreme777 2 жыл бұрын
That impression was incredibly impressive
@X-Warrior.8719
@X-Warrior.8719 2 жыл бұрын
I would personally LOVE to see the Jonathan Hickman's X-Men in the MCU?!
@placebo141
@placebo141 2 жыл бұрын
I would like the idea of the post-end war angle where the act of stark clicking his fingers and bringing everyone back rebuilt everyone's DNA but the power of the stones got integrated into the DNA of some individuals. In some cases this would give them powers and for others they would get sick/lose body function. That contrast would be a decent base for the build up of friction with some powerful figure's (who are already unstable characters) loved ones dying due to a mutation
@jackspinella6889
@jackspinella6889 2 жыл бұрын
I'm writing an X-Men screenplay set in the MCU and my idea would be pretty similar to X-Men: Evolution where the X-Men have been laying low, doing black ops missions, and not being noticed by the public. Other mutants, however, were getting recognized a lot more during the Blip. The government, being worried about how little they know about them and worried that one of them might become the next Thanos, creates the Sentinels to keep them in line but their mission slowly turns into full-on genocide once Henry Peter Gyrich becomes the sole proprietor of the Sentinel Project. Once Kitty Pryde becomes a target of the Sentinels and the X-Men save her, THAT'S when the public becomes fully aware and frankly apprehensive about mutants.
@BlueBlazeKing
@BlueBlazeKing Жыл бұрын
Great pitch, and I definitely agree with Kitty Pyrde being our focal character
@DragunovWayne
@DragunovWayne 11 ай бұрын
I liked the idea and I always supported adapting X-Men Evolution in the MCU with young mutants and then maturing
@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 2 жыл бұрын
I like your Phoenix Force and dead celestial idea. I must say though I am truly hoping for Jason Isaacs to play Magneto. I haven't figured out my fancast for most of the characters yet, but definitely Isaacs for Magneto.
@uutakke1
@uutakke1 2 жыл бұрын
I think they've already introduced the "X gene" in the MCU comics through Strucker.
@Flufux
@Flufux 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda funny how you mentioned Steven Grant be the one to mention Apocalypse...given that they're both played by the same actor.
@aramgarabedian1452
@aramgarabedian1452 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen this video yet, but I agree. 10/10 👍
@johnquiett1085
@johnquiett1085 2 жыл бұрын
I would love the Hellfire Club purge story to happen in the background of some other D+ show.
@adamtaylor3317
@adamtaylor3317 2 жыл бұрын
I low-key thing that one super cool way to introduce xMen is with a mini series of like 3 episodes starring a completely new character and It ends with them going to the Xavier institute
@shadowclaw7210
@shadowclaw7210 Жыл бұрын
If I was to give my explanation for mutants. Its that mutants are 1/1000000 chance. Like before “The Snap”. It was just that for one mutant there be millions of humans. But after the snap people instinct kicked in and those who had dormant X gene unlocked their powers. Then immediately been taken by either Xavier or Magneto.
@Mywe77
@Mywe77 2 жыл бұрын
Remember in Age of Ultron, Marvel introduced the concept of "Enhanced" but nothing came from it. Maybe it was a gateway to the inhumans back then, but they could use it for the mutants
@Kompatainment
@Kompatainment 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your idea. I think it makes the most sense if they have always been there hiding. They could even make that the conflict of the first X-Men film. Some mutants want to reveal themselves and become the next Avengers while Professor X still remembers how mutants have been treated before Iron Man appeared and therefore wants them to stay out of trouble.
@_h1ghl4nd3r
@_h1ghl4nd3r 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Steven Grant impression.
@christiankurtbertumen9203
@christiankurtbertumen9203 Жыл бұрын
My idea to have the X-Men introduced to the MCU: 1. Debut In A Disney Plus Series Entitled Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters. 2. Wolverine's Origin.
@AlMoSiCe210
@AlMoSiCe210 2 жыл бұрын
Fury COULD make a mention of Kree threats that are in actuality mutants in Secret Invasion.
@cheesy1776
@cheesy1776 2 жыл бұрын
I can definitely see an Easter egg of “Is Spider-Man a Mutant?!” titled newspaper or headline from dailybugle
@Legion_X83
@Legion_X83 Жыл бұрын
Could marvel hire you PLEASE. You manage to solve all the issues I have, and you did it with such a deep knowlodge and understanding of mutant history. I hope the writers working on this see your video.
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