How Siamese Dream Nearly Broke Billy Corgan

[@Amber_xo_133]

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[@STONESGAM]

To me Siamese Dream is a 10/10. Not the most original or important record of the 1990's but quite possibly the best. I know Billy doesn't really like to repeat himself but I always wished the Pumpkins would return to that epic and dreamy sound they had on Siamese Dream even if it was very produced.

[@brucifer0]

I'm a Gish guy. It's a nearly perfect first record. Up there with the Cars first record. Way ahead of its time: absolute perfection 👌

[@lasttime1372]

Gish is fantastic! Jimmy had all the freedom in the world to play whatever he wanted😂 Lots of great drum chops there❤️

[@tylerbrunton7696]

Gish is still my favourite, and the Cars is, imo, the best rock debut ever.

[@mordaciousfilms]

Same. It's so underrated - but it's got a solid sound.

[@aisle_of_view]

Have a listen to Sparklehorse "Viva dixie submarine..." It's another near perfect debut album. Beautiful and diverse.

[@stevezilla68]

Totally agree. I was a huge metalhead at the time and Gish blew me away.

[@partycakes456]

Wisconsin is north of Illinois, so they went UP to Wisconsin

[@cropcircle5693]

There are at least two of us who know and care...🤣

[@magnetmountain33]

Up is down! And east is, up some would say……….. either way north is in the middle and south is every straight line from it😂

[@sweetpain67]

Disarm…one of the greatest songs ever written/performed. Period. Beatles +.

[@nivagcomicsreviews7074]

That album got me through a dark time

[@noveltycrusade]

What an album ❤❤

[@guilty-of-being-right]

His best album.

[@tyraelhermosa]

Who wants honey?

[@jasonmalloy634]

He wanted a masterpiece, and we got one! If there was ever an album that could sing to my adolescence, it would be this! ❤ Mayonnaise is pretty much a love letter to the person I used to be before the world got ahold of me..

[@JazziG59]

That last sentence is beautifully tragic. Nobody can prepare us for life… it’s brutal.

[@carlodave9]

The more I read about his band mates dissing him the more I admire him.

[@FlamingSwordful]

Way he goes bald after

[@debomb721]

Why did he do that??

[@alexmalch]

He goes bald after Mellon collie

[@dasjerkstore]

He's always been bald

[@cle9146]

@@dasjerkstore he’s literally got hair in this video bruh

[@dasjerkstore]

@@cle9146 bald billy

[@shanereynolds4276]

By far their best album. I remember going through a break up and falling asleep listening to the album. Waking up on and off. Idk the feeling it gave me was intense and really made me feel less alone.

[@Dittoediscool]

While i was not going through a breakup, my listening experience of this album was literally the exact same and your comment made me so happy❤!!

[@Dubnot]

Life's a bummer when you're a hummer.

[@kinchogarcia2261]

Thank you for this!! I remember the 90's myself almost shocked after having listened this album for the first time and needing to breath before listening again to it... Now I understand why it sounds so deep and intense. Congratulations!

[@shaunaustralia9906]

He nearly lost his mind from all the acid they were doing at that time ❤❤

[@johnolmos8670]

It would break anyone carrying a whole band on his shoulders

[@JK..INFX.D....]

Billy & Butch = Greatness!!

[@kai326]

Butch does what a lot of producers could learn to do. Let the artist be themselves

[@alexxander808]

I respect Billy pushing into new sonic realms but I want them to revisit this kind of thing, find new angles maybe Siamese Dream with a little electronic like Ava but more along these lines aestethic wise.

[@thevale2456]

Good review, enjoyed it. Siamese Dream is a masterpiece but I do prefer Mellon Collie. Adore is also a criminally underrated album by them. Love the Pumpkins 🎃

[@TheMusicNarrative]

Thanks! I agree, Adore is slept on way too much.

[@dsxa918]

I wonder meow meow

[@eatassonthefirstdate]

Mellon collie is the best album of 95. well, rock album. Tupac and Mobb Deep dropped albums that year that blow away any rock album. also tho, Offspring "Smash" became an instant classic that still holds up today, even lyrically.

[@claytonjones8358]

Gish was the shit

[@spacetruckin6555]

My girlfriend and I used to drive around in my '67 Pontiac listening to this album. Mayonnaise was always my favorite.

[@oliverbahr8677]

Excellent video! It really shows the effort you put into it!

[@TheMusicNarrative]

Much appreciated!

[@MySkinnydip]

Billy had great bone structure and a very romantic look.

[@SquirrelSeb84]

Siamese dream is an absolute masterpiece, the trio of albums up to Adore is untouchable with the latter being my favorite by them - lots of hate for the stylistic change but criminally overlooked awesome songwriting.

[@jasonosborne3924]

It’s perfect. A masterpiece.

[@ronponce8238]

Depending on my mood, SiameseDream is my 1a or 1b favorite album ever (Rush-Hemispheres) and Gish is definitely in my top 10-15

[@alukuhito]

What do you mean by "1a" or "1b"?

[@ronponce8238]

@@alukuhito I can't decide which one is my favorite since it changes with my mood, so it's a tie for #1. So my list is 1a, 1b, then #3, #4 and so on...

[@alukuhito]

@@ronponce8238 Oh. Is Disintegration in your top 5?

[@ronponce8238]

@@alukuhito I never got into the Cure, but I do like some of their songs. I've always been into more harder rocking stuff.

[@blakemeding7917]

Every album nearly broke Billy Corgan....

[@NotMe-hm2zd]

In regards to everything you’re saying about this band, the answer is NO there not!!!!

[@AltRock0827]

Excellent commentary. This guy is right on point.

[@brianrorex8337]

For those of us alive at the time, Gish was their breakthrough.

[@osco-w5r]

Great stuff as always, I dig your channel. Id love to see you talk about Steve Albini.

[@TheMusicNarrative]

Appreciate it! I'll talk about Steve Albini at some point for sure. Big Black and Shellac are both great bands

[@antongrillo]

@@TheMusicNarrative That Rapeman record "Two nuns and a pack mule" is amazing as well, though the name is unfortunate, as Albini himself has later acknowledged and apologized for. Most of the people on their label didn't agree to working with the band due to the name and the group dissolved pretty quickly, but the material on the album as well as The Budd EP (named after Budd Dwyer the allegedly corrupt politician who shot himself live on TV) is some of Albini's best work, along with David Sims (future Jesus Lizard) and Rey Washam (former Scratch Acid). Truly recommend checking it out if you haven't already. The band molds together the aesthetics of both Big Black and Shellac in a way and is totally unique in many other ways. (And to those wondering; the band was named after a manga that Albini was handed when he was touring with Big Black in Japan. He felt that the idea of a superhero that doesn't have any superpowers and rapes as a form of vigilantism was so bizarre and screwed up that he decided to name his next band after it. Later he has said that this decision is one of the biggest regrets of his career and that he feels that it's completely reasonable to hold him accountable for it. He's also written a pretty great article about feminism in rock music circles, though I don't remember which publication it was for.)

[@FlamingSwordful]

@@antongrillo wow you just write lik scripts dawg

[@osco-w5r]

@@antongrillo yeah, its too bad that rapeman is rarely brought up when discussing albini. It makes sense, obviously the name is crass, but i really think its albini’s best work. Budd is just such an insanely killer song.

[@fuckcensorship69]

​@@antongrillo the name is "unfortunate" . Nah, people without a sense of humor sharing the planet with yours truly is unfortunate

[@genghis_connie]

Great review on this, as always. It’s a great collection of songs.

[@lindasemple4687]

Siamese Dream absolutely gorgeous, fantastic tunes,tight af, beautiful musicianship. Yet most people praise the unlistenable (to me) sprawling mess of melancholy

[@eatassonthefirstdate]

umm, ur high. sales don't lie. dude, Bullet with Butterfly Wings had more radio and MTV play than ANYTHING they ever made before that. that song hit almost as hard as smells like teen spirit did. like it was up there with say, Bulls on Parade or Take em out and Play by Offspring. and those tracks took OVER music airwaves. I respect your opinion and your choice on music, were all entitled to that. but I consider myself kind of a music buff. what aspects of Siamese would you say give it such good playability, versus what you think Makes Mellon Collie 'unlistenable'?

[@Meggem216]

When will the rock hall induct them???? 2025?

[@jdre1976]

Ahem, that would be "UP TO WISCONSIN"... 😁

[@kevinaustin0369]

A MASTERPIECE from first note to last!

[@Tomy_Yon]

Billy and D'arcy had a fight that made her join the band. I love these quirky stories. 😊

[@Panzer-Geomancer]

Every major city in the world needs a statue of William Corgan. His face needs to be put on huge billboards. The ego of Billy must be satisfied.

[@musiclover01ization]

Great video, man.

[@serendipity-108]

Anyone know the background track at 7:00ish?

[@okjeffy6581]

No wonder I always cried at Today.

[@dolson5326]

You forgot about the part when he moved to Florida!

[@checkyourhead37]

Gish < Siamese Dream < Mellon Collie 🖤🖤🖤

[@tommeredith7462]

The original bass player Darcy threw away a great opportunity to thrive with the Smashing Pumpkins. During her off hours from the band she refused to work on her craft by practicing and attempting to contribute to the collective effort to really succeed as a band. I can’t blame Billy for giving Darcy the Axe…

[@kai326]

If I had to work with Billy I’d lose enthusiasm for the band as well.

[@tommeredith7462]

@@kai326 And you’d also be broke..

[@kai326]

@@tommeredith7462 been there done that

[@KBizzy]

@@tommeredith7462 I saw them twice during the earlier days and she was awful live. Mistake after mistake on the bass.

[@tommeredith7462]

@@KBizzy All of the band members and the roadie’s doinked her.

[@hlangman83]

So excited to see more traction coming your way, big fan of your work x

[@rufus231]

Did the other band members contribute anything ?

[@Gab-espartac]

Their sound basically, the music was all Billy but they were a great band live

[@theironshiek]

@@rufus231 I think James wrote the chord progression to mayonnaise and soma and he completely wrote another and I'm sure there are small parts here and there which the others contributed but every song you hear is 98% corgan

[@AlexG-xl1cc]

What's the instrumental song at the end of this??? Great vid btw deserves 100x more views.

[@acidburn1969]

Not a perfectionist, the music is mediocre best.

[@ASMRGaming.X]

But you have done absolutely nothing with your life so…😂🔫

[@acidburn1969]

@@ASMRGaming.X You as well.....Well I'm a well know Network Systems Engineer for Intel... dumbshit🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@acidburn1969]

@@ASMRGaming.X Your a funny bitch🤣😂🤣😂

[@acidburn1969]

@@ASMRGaming.X At least, I'm a successful Network Systems Engineer. Dumbsh!t

[@akrkwood]

So when DID he lose it and become a conspiracy nut bag? 🤔 Shame too because this was easily my top 3 most listened albums of the 90’s.

[@kevinbond8966]

Naw, he's not a nut job. You're just not used to hearing the truth.

[@outofthenorm7292]

So when did having an open mind and questioning things make you a nut bag, I think people that accept things at face value are the problem. You obviously want people to do your thinking for you.

[@ryansharp4691]

Its unbelievably awkward how you dont play even tiny snippets of each song as you describe them. I know all about copyright strikes, but i also know there are tons of content creators who navigate those legal technicalities. Its just weird.

[@TheMusicNarrative]

I’m just playing it safe man. I’ve had videos blocked worldwide for using short video/song clips. I know it technically falls under fair use, but bad experiences in the past have led me away from using song snippets for now. Not to mention even if those videos are good for a while, they could be struck randomly at any time. You only get 3 copyright strikes before your channel is permanently deleted.

[@ryanfelvus2423]

I like these tunes in the background what is it?

[@davidgalinat4257]

I think you can get away with under 5 seconds for a music clip.

[@starlodear2987]

@@TheMusicNarrative But aren't songs automatically detected and royalties paid to the authors? So why are they still blocked?

[@TheMusicNarrative]

@@starlodear2987 It depends on the artist/copyright holder. Some allow the video to stay up and others block it worldwide. There’s even cases where you can share revenue with the copyright holder. An Alice in Chains video I made a few months ago was blocked worldwide for using a short clip. So I had to trim it out for the video to stay up. But that’s only one example.

[@alukuhito]

Good pictures and video, but weird writing.

[@theedxqboi]

The most overrated band from the most overhyped decade.

[@jasonwonkawich5275]

Oh, STFU kid. If you lived it, you would swallow those words. Jeeze, the nerve of the youth of today. NEVER poke a Gen-Xer ... fair warning. Now go run along and figure out what your pronouns are.

[@JohnSmith-rk6jy]

O yea? What was the best decade?

[@ThePferro]

I know bro. They didn’t even wear spandex. They had no hair and didn’t shred on the guitars. What a bunch of goofs