How Anthony Simonsen used offense to win a PBA bowling match! #bowling #pbatour #pba
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@ryman66r55 ай бұрын
Anyone that calls this cheating is totally stupid. He was forcing his opponent to adjust and he didn't do a good job at moving. Smart strategy
@Hurtz-xm8eu5 ай бұрын
Thats exactly right. While bowling you have to constantly adjust and simonsons oppenent didnt do a good job of that
@dezaultering4 ай бұрын
While this is correct, the guy went out of his way to sand a ball just to pick up oil off the lane, it was still done maliciously.
@ryman66r54 ай бұрын
@@dezaultering More like it was a strategic move. His opponent should've paid attention to know the lanes were going to be different after the fact. It wasn't a secret or surprise.
@mikeyvance32304 ай бұрын
@@dezaulteringIf you are good enough to make tv. Then you are good enough to make adjustments
@dezaultering4 ай бұрын
@@mikeyvance3230 that i agree with, but like i said ruining a ball just to pick up oil off the lane is malicious and un sportsman like
@apooh30515 ай бұрын
Bowling is all about adjustment. He who adjust the best will always win.
@jerryalexander88035 ай бұрын
Closest thing to defense in bowling, I don’t necessarily agree with the strategy but it’s smart, gotta make the adjustments
@scrubbyducky13253 ай бұрын
Koeltzo is a friend of mine, and our whole town was so proud to see his performance on TV. Super nice guy and knows how to be a badass bowling alley mechanic
@lordsatan14735 ай бұрын
Once your bowling pro tournaments sportsmanship is a luxury.
@tonysanta34974 ай бұрын
I learned about people on tour doing this 20 years ago. You have to be prepared to adapt and overcome. That is defense in bowling!!!!!!
@trewqqwerty38575 ай бұрын
both of them are still throwing on the same lane tho,id say its about who can adjust better
@DtKnize2 күн бұрын
Simonsen did what he needed to do to win, he is a very smart bowler and a great lane mechanic. Many Pro bowlers would through plastic balls during practice to push oil down the lane to give them an advantage.
@williamkrause99685 ай бұрын
Lol I met norm Duke once and the even I was at he spoke and he said that back in the day he did something similar but to get the surface on the ball he rolled his ball around in the parking lot 😅... that was illegal.
@StephRenee8125 ай бұрын
😂😂
@kridicalxsi11775 ай бұрын
Belmo is notorious on tour for doing this lol
@angelod45104 ай бұрын
2005 world championship Brian Voss vs Chris loschetter the same thing happened
@terrenceturner6254Ай бұрын
Smart judging. It's called DEFENSE
@theaceco15 күн бұрын
Sanded Urethane works even better. It's the same as throwing a sanded ball up the OB in warmups to create more miss-room. Smart strategy.
@noahkang5795 ай бұрын
It seems fair, because the whole point of bowling is adjusting to your circumstances. If his original look is bad you have to move regardless of what the other player is doing
@k1ngsizepapa4 ай бұрын
Shim-wrecking happens all the time at the professional level. Doesn’t always get filmed. I watched Mike Fagan do it to Stu Williams at the World Championship.
@stanjones53415 ай бұрын
Now if he uses the sanded ball during the match it’s one thing… but nah , that’s like going on a football field kicking up holes before a game.
@kalithechamp14125 ай бұрын
That’d still be foul in my book. Play a fair and even game. If the cheating is allowed then the other person should be told when the cheating happens and give them time to figure it out. Going into the game expecting one thing and then having it sabotaged is never ok in competitive sports 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@denmanfite31565 ай бұрын
Except it's perfectly allowed and both players can do it. All Simo did was remove "miss room" for him so take up a new line or get beat.
@stanjones53415 ай бұрын
@@denmanfite3156 removed “miss room” by altering surface ? That’s a no for me, dog.
@No_Lucks_Given5 ай бұрын
Your analogy only proves that it's not cheating even more. They both have to bowl on the same lanes. Just like both teams have to play in the same field. So "ruining" it for one ruins it for both. If it were cheating it would be against the rules.
@procrastinator69024 ай бұрын
@@No_Lucks_GivenA better analogy would be kicking up holes and covering them with grass afterwards. They're there and not glaringly obvious, but you know where they are and to avoid them while your opponent doesn't. Yes they may play the same lane but the player who threw the sanded ball knows an area to avoid and made that area specifically where his opponent was throwing. It may not be illegal but it's definitely the bowling version of playing "n!993r pool"
@Louis-ed5pn21 күн бұрын
Sabotaging would be if someone was a Right hander and had to bowl a left handed Bowler, and either one would physically tamper with the opponents side of the Lanes!!!
@friedblowney5 ай бұрын
I'll take "Giant reaches in the name of creating content" for $2000
@ab554315 ай бұрын
sanding ball is very legal in bowling.kris can also played this strategy on simo’s tracks . but he didn’t pop out this strategy so simo wins fairly
@danielcervantez-no5mf5 ай бұрын
Your wrong! Simo was setting up his own shot. Kris was right of his break point.
@davidfishbeck75555 ай бұрын
I've seen simo do this to a lefty
@solonely57194 ай бұрын
Jason Belmonte did the same thing to Chris Barnes in the 2013 WSOB on Shark. Barnes shot 300 and then in the title match could barely manage a 200.
@alexthekid15385 ай бұрын
May the best bowler win
@michaelpangelinan21675 ай бұрын
Absolutely strategy… I do the same. I’ll throw a sanded ball in the track of my opponent. It’s the same in league when you bowl against a straight bowler with a plastic ball… the oil gets pushed down lane and screws up the shot. 😅
@edwardpollard4744Ай бұрын
Smart
@k1ngsizepapa4 ай бұрын
He was on the pair and struck. He saw the same transition that Simo did and didn’t adjust. The fact is he didn’t throw the three shots that went high the same. The first one was slower. Did Simo want the lane to transition sooner? Yes. It could have been because he wanted more friction in that spot to improve his own reaction, it could have been because he felt his reaction would be better than his opponents when they had to move in. Probably both. But they are on the same playing field. He would have had to move anyway, no one gets to play the same line for an entire game anymore, especially under the tv lights
@jamesscruggs45573 ай бұрын
You can attribute it to a couple of balls being thrown.The oil line is gonna to move after every shot
@johngomillion48724 ай бұрын
Not illegal, guys do similar all the time. Urethane balls are great for messing up a pattern lol.
@Tejay-Kiama4 ай бұрын
What's to say he didn't tighten up in the title game as well? No1 put him under any pressure until he faced Simo.
@ericw60434 ай бұрын
It’s strategy until it’s done against Simo. THEN Simo will call it cheating
@jeremytruitt69974 ай бұрын
I think he was making a wall for his shot since he was throwing urethane. Also Kris watched him do it during warmup so he should have known and his ball rep could have told him what to do.
@CTM_Nation993 ай бұрын
Smart strategy
@user-kr6ld3qb6d5 ай бұрын
Jason belmonte alks about bowling EJ at the Masters where he could have done that but he said there'd be no point because EJ's so good that it won't matter so he just has to out bowll him
@WelchGotJuic34 ай бұрын
I had to throw sanded urethane up the left side on a team yesterday 😅
@Great_America4 ай бұрын
He should have switched up which ball he used. This strategy was absolutely fair and legal.
@jimboyer432314 күн бұрын
I was on a team once where we would have me do something very similar to one of the opponents we faced it not illegal to to do this at all
@DtKnize2 күн бұрын
I'm not sure but is that where the term Shim Wrecker came from?
@gk4thewin0494 ай бұрын
Not denying whether or not it happened, but when you show a ball that simo is contractually not allowed to throw (and would never throw to beign with) along with several jump cuts to clips not beloning to the actual match, THIS IS VERY MISLEADING.
@8fer275 ай бұрын
No. It's called defensive bowling ;)
@ianahles80998 күн бұрын
As long as the level of sanding was legal, no problem.
@darrenlopez49345 ай бұрын
Smart strat even though it might be a cheap win.
@ChanceOfOne3442545 ай бұрын
I mean Simo also had to make the shots where he made his line, that's what matters.
@edwardranno71195 ай бұрын
Great idea if it works....I never even thought about it
@Mattbowls800Ай бұрын
Savage
@truemaggot74724 ай бұрын
100% solid strategy. Bowling is about adapting to lane conditions. If you cant handle it, then you lose. Simple. If i decide i want to throw Urathane and ruin your lines to give me a better shot at winning, i will All day
@unggulsujati56263 ай бұрын
Smart strategy ofcourse...every pro bowler knows how to avoid the same tracks that wiped by opponent...by moving 1 board each, to seek ideal oil pattern
@Jbmccain864 ай бұрын
Using a ball in your arsenal to ruin an opponent’s line during practice is strategy. However, I feel the line is crossed when you modify or use a ball for the sole purpose to mess up an opponent’s line.
@craternose3485 ай бұрын
I do this all the time, it’s smart.
@littlelimandlittleiv_friends.5 ай бұрын
I have no words.
@Tom-fs4xu5 ай бұрын
You had four.
@littlelimandlittleiv_friends.5 ай бұрын
@@Tom-fs4xu what???
@alexvang32283 ай бұрын
It's not cheating. You have to adjust to the lane like adjusting to bad turf
@torisweatt64814 ай бұрын
I don’t consider this cheating, if you cannot adjust, you should be a pro bowler. I sometimes specifically bowl with someone that uses urethane just so I can teach myself to move over
@1USACitizen1924 ай бұрын
Does not surprise me at all with Simo.
@Koalaz14 ай бұрын
you know this has been going on for a lot longer than hes even been pro right
@scottkeenan32145 ай бұрын
First of all that's not sabotaging opponent that's not illegal and it shouldn't be illegal that's good strategy
@user-qf3wm9ol2u4 ай бұрын
Simo made a smart move because none of his opponents did that but simo used his brain and forced him to move.
@YourLocalBowler4 ай бұрын
The people who say he’s cheating are stupid, he didn’t really sabotage his opponent, he just made the lane condition worse for him by doing that, its the other guys fault for nor adjusting correctly.
@user-kr6ld3qb6d5 ай бұрын
Not illegal
@bowlnow8245 ай бұрын
It is bad and smart in both ways. I am lefthanded and i was bowling a guy in a stepladder and he was right handed. He threw a 200 grit piece of charcoal up my line thinking he was going to mess me up. I just took out my weakest ball and played right up 15 basically on fresh oil. He trash talked me all through practice and took out the other ball and shot 250 on him. He got payback.
@HuyNguyen-kw4zc4 ай бұрын
That’s not sabotage. Bowling is about ability to throw good shots, read the lane and make the proper adjustment. Everyone complaining is just a victim mindset.
@skidhookroll5 ай бұрын
I don't like it, but it's a smart move. This is their job, and they need to do whatever is within the rules to put money in their pocket. But you have to be insanely good to make this work
@jaydenrobinson41725 ай бұрын
It is not cheating. Tho some people may find it unsportsmanlike. It is completely normal and people need to calm down. This is pretty much the hack a Shaq.
@liquidrock2u4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't consider this sabotage. Definitely a smart strategy.
@sooner3004 ай бұрын
I was taught to just put easy slide in their thumbhole 😜
@nickinportland5 ай бұрын
It’s not sabotage it’s a fresh pattern so he’s setting up his line. Duh. And idk if that whole sanded ball thing is real either.
@TimothyYates-sz7xg5 ай бұрын
thats strat
@ns671fr4 ай бұрын
If sanding isnt illegal then its all legal
@jl45602 ай бұрын
sneaky bastard bt it worked.
@wyattkliendl12915 ай бұрын
I'll just say both
@kirklamb32705 ай бұрын
it's not like his opponent left the building!! Pay attention next time!!
@oscargalindo65124 ай бұрын
Far from sabotage, It's part of the game and totally legal
@tomy58684 ай бұрын
it is what flicker ballers do....
@arthurr78663 ай бұрын
If it's legal to do no problem.
@RTSBOWL29 күн бұрын
Do I agree with it? No, I don't. Regardless, adjust or get turned to dust
@aquaafd25004 ай бұрын
so simo complains about belmo messing up the lanes with 5 minutes of practice before their game but did the same thing to his opponent 🤦♂️
@user-kr6ld3qb6d5 ай бұрын
Pros been doing this for years
@xerotonin67764 ай бұрын
Smarter than belmonte with his water bottle
@donrumgay52005 ай бұрын
Both…
@brianfong83945 ай бұрын
Pure strategy
@ItsAllGood_4 ай бұрын
He didnt do anything illegal. Also, the first shot that didnt carry was just bad luck. Now, bowling two handed...should be illegal.
@Jesusfanatic07114 ай бұрын
Nothing new that doesn’t happen at every event….. it’s not sabotage it’s strategy that every player sees happening at the event so it’s not sabotage unless it’s unknown
@justinkocher21845 ай бұрын
That’s not even unsportsmanlike in bowling. That’s part of the game. In college, for practice, you intentionally break down the lanes to give yourself an advantage while also giving a disadvantage to your opponent.
@kalithechamp14125 ай бұрын
Cheating should never be legal. If I’m better then I’m better, period!
@CausticCommander5 ай бұрын
Smart strategy. Kris wouldve been able to see what Anthony was doing and react accordingly. And Anthony still shot 279, so its not like he had a bad look either.
@levitrautwein52495 ай бұрын
I’d just moan while the others bowling to mess them up
@brandonzuzak67483 ай бұрын
It’s called defense.
@izrultwocents3 ай бұрын
Just imagine if Simo did this to crybaby Sean Rash 😅.. Sean will definitely whine till the end 😂
@GamingEntbrat4 ай бұрын
I think is fair. It’s not cheating if it’s legal
@nkyryry7 күн бұрын
He didn’t do anything he wasn’t allowed to do.
@EvsColeto23 күн бұрын
If this becomes well known for all bowlers, they'll probably start forcing bowlers to practice on the adjacent lanes.
@zacharywilder1405 ай бұрын
This is stupid. This should not be considered fair play. You are intentionally attempting to altar you opponent's ability to perform at their max potential. Using a dry ball in an attempt to ruin the bowling lane should not qualify as professional, ethical, promotable, or allowed in the sport of bowling. Most absurd thing I've heard. Thats like going on the basketball court after halftime and intentionally putting oil on the court on the opponents side of the court in the driving lane, making it more difficult to drive the ball with a pair of tennis shoes doused in oil and then switching your shoes and telling your team to avoid that part of the court. Sounds like fair gameplay right? This is absurd and should not be allowed. Regardless if they are playing on the same playing feild. One person knows what is wrong with the lane and the other person doesn't.
@VoltrixIsPro5 ай бұрын
sanding before a match is allowed am I wrong
@cope13275 ай бұрын
I think you a re misunderstanding how bowling balls and lane oil works. All reactive resin bowling balls absorb oil through out the game. Urethane balls actually push oil down the lane and can make your ball react later. Lane conditions change constantly while bowling. Changing the surface on a bowling ball using approved methods is perfectly legal before a match. Also both parties are usually allowed a few practice shots between games during tv matches, unless this has changed recently. Hopefully this helps
@bab32935 ай бұрын
Blah blah blah
@7kakan4 ай бұрын
Welcome to the Swedish League, manipulating the lanes either in favour of you or "sabotaging" for the opponents, are the norm there. :)
@jjlewis61475 ай бұрын
Not cheating at all, thats smart af, use practice to set the lanes up however you want, as long as the ball itself isnt illegal, he did nothing wrong
@user-kr6ld3qb6d5 ай бұрын
You're you're the kind of guy that would say in the arm wrestling match you can't move your body
@Kudeghraw4 ай бұрын
Is that you Michael Todd?
@Anders-B5 ай бұрын
Until its against the rules, its fair. If I have a shot with reactive and urethane, I might still use urethane if I am against someone locked in.
@jjlewis61475 ай бұрын
Right, bunch of non bowlers thinking that's cheating, I bowl in 2 houses, 1 is super high friction, so I use urethane in practice, every ball right up the 7 board to carry oil down to get some hold for reactive when I finally get lined up in the last 2 min of practice
@jjlewis61475 ай бұрын
I'm lefty, so usually I'm by myself tho
@wavez_91072 ай бұрын
Don’t make Simonsen seem like a cheater lmao
@Denali_Rebel3 ай бұрын
Absolutely not. Does it such playing against that. Yes. That’s the sport though. They are professionals though because they know how to adjust. Professional bowlers are professionals because they can handle pressure and read lanes better than your league bowler. He knew his opponent was locked in and he wasn’t. He made his opponent figure out a new line.
@johnb77944 ай бұрын
Pretty weak move. But hey that’s why everyone was rooting for Marshall in the last tournament.
@rawfilms9975 ай бұрын
That’s called playing the lanes 😂 it’s not sabotage
@aw-stk5 ай бұрын
People make me laugh a pro can see what your throwing and where your playing. He just needed a ball to roll up more vs jump off the spot.
@jamesbills59983 ай бұрын
If thats the way you have to win count me out.
@SkateClipsAndTips5 ай бұрын
Simonsen is very unsportsman like, but his opponent should've adjusted
@jonathanhart13344 ай бұрын
This is like deflating balls before a football game 😂y’all remember them patriots? Yes this is 100% cheating. Those who don’t think so cheat to win lol