How The Boys Destroyed Marvel Forever

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[@KiomonDuck]

Hi

[@Bizz_ram]

The copycat characters of Marvel and DC feels more OG then OG nowadays and that's why the boys is one the best superhero series that ever made.

[@masternobody1896]

moon is being ironman

[@bluelightdigitalarts1934]

Did you have to use a clickbait??

[@TraXXXtar]

another company to give your information to for them to leak lmao genius

[@kristijan8518]

The boys didn't ruin marvel. Marvel ruined itself by lack of quality, well written stories.

[@silksonic3927]

In a way it did as it showed superheroes in a new light What if superheroes were evil ? Which is much more realistic And by endgame people were tired of mcu watching the same plot again and again I still remember people were gravitating towards the boys and Aot especially after endgame

[@serenas5411]

Yes and also Marvels woke pandering and feminist agenda

[@eyisgaming9921]

And forced agendas that no one cares to see

[@lostspktre]

​@@serenas5411marvel has literally always been progressive and ahead of the curve. if you couldn't see that, you weren't paying attention. marvel's "woke agenda" doesnt exist. they made one massively stupid scene in endgame, that's fact we can all agree on. bree larson is stupid on her own time in interviews. aside from that, what's happening that's "woke" exactly? genuinely piss all.

[@Fabulos1]

Marvel is still better than DC.

[@arambhikrut7258]

How Antony Starr isn't winning a SINGLE mainstream award for his performance as Homelander BLOWS my mind.... it's the top of the shelf portrayal of a psychopath superhero

[@TheFawfulExpressMustardO-cx6mw]

It's scary how well he portrays Homelander.

[@aronbtw6605]

Homelander is more of a sociopath than a psychopath

[@taskipl3802]

Antony Starr isn't homelander, homelander is Antony Starr

[@Phoenixash-delfuego]

He should've got something for banshee as well.

[@MasterHall117]

@@TheFawfulExpressMustardO-cx6mwit was to the point that he was just arrested some time ago for mugging a woman or something and screamed “you know who the fuck I am? I AM THE HOMELANDER”

[@pandamilkshake]

The best part is that Anthony Starr didn't want the role of Homelander to begin with. He was interested in being in a realistic drama series like the role he played in Banshee, but got persuaded by his agent. He filmed his audition instead of going in person and he did it as apathetically as possible in order to sabotage his chances of getting the role. Little did he know that his attitude was EXACTLY what the director wanted.

[@faizelwales]

It was meant to be my brother👊🤣🤣..Starr is just phenomenal

[@PimpNamedSlickBack1_]

That’s actually awesome lol

[@oishirley]

Interesting fact. Thank you.

[@ashutoshsamantaray6596]

This smells of PR bullshit. Like bravo vince lol.

[@MrAwkwarDmusic]

I was always wondering if Antony was acting as Homelander or Homelander is acting as Antony. Now with your comment I got no more doubts lol

[@Gensolink]

i never felt so much anxiety for a group of heroes than I did for The Boys main cast. The enemy is shown as this incredibly overwhelming force that could end them at any second.

[@fireboltaz]

I love Homelanders character more than any other super hero character.

[@GrayWolf8472]

Same here😂

[@perropequeno]

The boys made superheroes seem so powerful and terrifying. Marvel could only dream.

[@xhorus88]

Nutting in them

[@Great-Real-World]

😅 8:08 pp

[@singingchef23]

Powerful? The boys are maybe a Daredevil level threat. They seem like super soldiers at best. Not sure they are even different than the thugs in Falcon and The Winter Soldier

[@CristianoC111]

The boys is an anti-republicans and conservative propaganda created by radical left. It’s just satire

[@tomasguilherme263]

​@@singingchef23and? Homelander the main villan is still the strongest in is universe or stronger then 99% of the cast, literaly a menace, you actual feel the fear of the characters when he appers. Marvel could never lol.

[@jeremiahwarden5959]

My brother in Christ, I am pretty sure the MCU is doing an amazing job at destroying itself without any help from The Boys.

[@jeronimo196]

Exactly.

[@AodhanBeag]

But the Boys is kicking it while it’s down, it saw it’s advantage and took it….because that’s what hero’s do The fact that you need to do so much homework now of TV shows and side characters movies that are literally just 80-90% filler and barely contribute to the overall plot and storyline just makes the effort far higher than the payoff But they seem to be tanking a lot of their other stuff not just marvel through their own stupid actions. I wonder do they even read the screenplays before approving the films/shows anymore

[@brentharlow3559]

The "girl power" Beat down on the Austrian art aficionado (Stormfront) from season 2 was cringe as fuck, parody or not my eyes nearly rolled clear outta my head. Anthony Starr is carrying Homelander more than the writing is, he was amazing on Banshee which honestly is a much better show than the Boys and that's no insult. And the Modern politics insert was hamfisted dogshit that's gonna be dated in 5 years, and this guy is acting like that milquetoast nonsense is profound rather than Cringe.

[@dlwf11111]

@@brentharlow3559also wow haha, gore is so cool haha

[@marcing5380]

@@brentharlow3559True, Stormfront and almost everything around her character was cringe as hell. Looked mostly like dumb anti-right propaganda than a parody.

[@user-lj6qb1xt2y]

Homelander was the best example of narcissistic behavior ive ever seen. Its was done perfectly, and it was terrifying

[@ArmyWolves]

Agreed... It was AMAZING to see the disgust and contempt in Homelander's eyes even as he is smiling at someone and trying to hold back the urge to squash or throw them out of a window.

[@YouArePitiful]

I can't imagine anyone doing a better job than the guy who acts as Homelander. His performance is one of the big things that got me hooked on the show.

[@faizelwales]

Anthony Starr just brilliant my brother

[@S0ulfy-vg9tz]

@@faizelwales the story is as good as the villan :) the better the villan is the better the hero has to be, ergo the story :)

[@faizelwales]

@@S0ulfy-vg9tz 💯 reminds me alot of justified Boyd en raylan elevating each other and the whole series..🤝👏👊

[@blackgloriouz]

Check Banshee amazing show and he's the main guy in it

[@fausch]

Homelander is one of the best written characters I've ever seen, and Antony Starr nails the character perfectly

[@jinvanpalta6263]

This is the future

[@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286]

Homelander is overrated

[@Munchausenification]

@@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286 everything can probably be overrated. should add what makes him overrated.

[@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286]

@@Munchausenification The push of some of his fans is an example.

[@raymondsims7042]

@@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286naw homelander truly is one of the best characters ever made

[@kendrickwestfield8491]

The boys proved that well written characters and a smaller story is better than turning up the lights and re-coloring space

[@rajimus]

ITS JUST AS BAD YOU LOSER. POOR SEASONS ENDINGS AFTER GOOD BUILD UPS

[@ImAmirus]

It doesnt really have character development tho. Extortion is really the only way anything ever changes in this show.

[@Xtrendence]

@@ImAmirus Literally every character is different by the end of the latest season compared to season 1. The only ones that aren't that different are Butcher and Homelander, but that makes sense because they're both similarly stubborn and have that "scorched Earth" attitude that you don't really come back from. Frenchie, Hughie, Kimiko, Starlight, Deep, A-Train, Ashley, literally all of these characters have done an almost 180 (but naturally, not jarringly).

[@mgp1203]

@@ImAmirus are you watching the show blindfolded or?

[@Nutbag517]

​@@ImAmirusStarlight season 1: Being manipulated by her parents and Vought, sexually abused and still keeps her mouth shut. Season 3: Doesn't give a fuck about Vought, speaks up against them, has learned to play their game to her advantage. Hughie season 1: Scared, timid, angry but not tough enough to stand up for himself. Insecure. Season 3: Literally stares down Homelander for threatening his girlfriend. Compare this to the baptism scene where he's about to shit himself. That's just 2 characters. Need I go on?

[@Whowouldwinbetweenthem]

Agree 100% The Boys are taking over. They are the real thing without the usual happy ending and empty heroes. All characters have their flaws, making them more relatable.

[@leonfa259]

And it's just more honest with us humans, we all are neither completely "moral" nor "evil".

[@ichangedmyusernamebecausei2551]

I like how it’s somewhat more realistic. In dc and marvel movies and shows (not that it’s a bad thing), half the movies or episodes are the “heroes” or “villains” going over their master plans and how they’ll act. The “heroes” and “villains” in the boys just get it done with as soon as they can. Like homelander just shows up to a terrorist hideout and kills them all within minutes and secures it for the us military or vought. Basically the boys get it done while marvel and dc usually spend unnecessary amount of show and movie time hours having inspirational speeches

[@Skydejavu]

The actor who does homelander really takes the cake, truly impressive acting and immersive role! Also, the jokes and marketing about translucent are just pure gold

[@sahinchovanec3662]

Anthony Starr

[@skynoceros_]

I loved the boys because it really was unpredictable and each episode has a "wtf just happened" moment.

[@youlooklikeagoodjoeyoulooklone]

I think they should have concluded it in season 3 but because of how successful the show got it will probably keep running on forever.

[@SaifXD47]

@@youlooklikeagoodjoeyoulooklone director planned The boys to be 5 season show

[@DailyDrds]

@@SaifXD47that’s good I hate when tv shows or movies get milked

[@youlooklikeagoodjoeyoulooklone]

@@SaifXD47 I hope you're right and they don't milk it till everyone has lost interest.

[@skateplays8880]

⁠@@youlooklikeagoodjoeyoulooklonelol it’s not being milked it’s just going at the pace of the comics, we‘ll get like 2 more seasons max

[@charless3484]

My favorite scene of The Boys is the focus group scene where they discuss the name for the "super villain" in the middle east called Naqib. According to The Boys Wiki: "Naqib, was a Supe terrorist whose existence was orchestrated by Homelander to give the American government a reason to enlist superheroes into the military" literally satirizes the events of the preceding events of the Iraq War and the subsequent "War on Terror" perfectly. The scene is literally a microcosm of how the US used circumstances it created to justify a war after manipulating global events.

[@Magnus_VII]

Yup

[@snappycenter7863]

Is this one of those "9/11 was an inside job" type statements?

[@dragnar4743]

So, true 🤣🤣 the series really nailed it.

[@stinga_]

They like to put fear in you. You always need a bogey man. Putin is the new bogey man.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

The world mostly sees America for the warmongers they are but it doesn't matter what we think. It only has to the fool the US population.

[@Jenna-in4br]

I actually loved how the boys depicted maeves story of being outed. As a Bisexaul woman i found it amazing that they showed how Ashley just wanted to use maeves sexaulity to market and make profit, and seeing ashley freak out when she sees maeve with a man because she thinks it'll make maeve less marketable. Idk, i just felt seen through that, bisexuality is so often invalidated, they handled it so well.

[@MrDionstarrr]

Seen? Who cares? Suck on bean and ride the peen. That's your own business.

[@brownehawk7744]

So you like to talk about sex in public, you have my attention.

[@Jenna-in4br]

@@brownehawk7744 wtf are you talking about

[@RecluseBootsy]

Their method of show, don't tell is textbook and so well executed. The dialogue never felt forced and it just adds layers of subtext on the episodes that happened beforehand.

[@estebansham4018]

The Boys is just refreshing. After Endgame, MCU has been caca except for spider man

[@pandanarkystudios5198]

I think Homelander is one of the greatest most tragic characters ever written. If you take a minute and empathize with him, it's heartbreaking. No, you can't really justify his actions, but his feelings are absolutely valid

[@nikolatasev4948]

This is the genious of the writing. You can understand Homelander, empathize with him, fear him yet hate him and everything he represents at the exact same time! The characters are actually deep! You can believe this could happen, as you know people with these character traits, you meet them every day, minus the superpowers.

[@venomshot2815]

The boys didnt really reinvent the genre, the watchmen did that. The boys expanded on what the watchmen did

[@ayeejheyy4537]

A shame DC couldve easily went on this route but instead went the marvel route

[@Cluro56]

Watchmen walked so the boys could run

[@SpaceForce635]

The Watchmen comic and movie or the series?

[@mahmoodalmahmood7014]

​@@SpaceForce635comic.

[@astrobat1638]

Exactly. I am a fan of the 2009 movie and I'm tired that people say The Boys and Invincible did it first.

[@hollygolden9673]

Adding Soldier Boy as Homelander's dad was genius. Would love more Soldier Boy. Jensen Ackles nailed it.

[@Jayynoz.]

that man is a national treasure!

[@andersmorrison7581]

idk if youve watched gen V (the boys spinoff type series) but he was teased for the next episode in the trailer

[@hollygolden9673]

@@andersmorrison7581 I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!

[@StopLookingAtMyAcc]

@@andersmorrison7581i didn't see that but if that's true I'm a happy man

[@slippinjimmy9787]

It is, get excited.@@StopLookingAtMyAcc

[@Arkenstone435]

The Boys didn’t kill Marvel, Marvel killed Marvel lmao

[@SitrukSoS]

The Boys is a series, not the series we deserved but the series we NEED

[@armandothiagodasilva4704]

Aquaman

[@burtleturtle0012]

What I liked was the psychological aspect of The Boys, they really delved into how powers would play on the mind. It makes you wonder how YOU would actually be with super powers.

[@adamcunningham3763]

I'd be a deplorable dirtbag.

[@ghostxinxaxjar1667]

For sure I'd be a super villain

[@ottomanpapyrus9365]

Well you'd most likely enforce your Worldview.

[@Filterdeez]

I'd finally be able to live where I want and nobody could stop me. "Sir, you need a pass-" *slap* "No tf I don't, try and stop me😊"

[@adamcunningham3763]

@@ottomanpapyrus9365 if sucking every dick in a room dry in under 5 seconds is my world view count me in

[@jaycollins2036]

Anthony Starr is giving the greatest performance on tv. Even when the shows narrative goes a little off the rails, he holds the whole thing together for me.

[@AodhanBeag]

Agreed, I’m also a big fan of Karl Urban as Butcher

[@Digger-Nick]

​@@AodhanBeag It's funny cause he's the complete opposite in real life, dude's a deranged leftist

[@andyjardine8192]

He's brilliant as HL

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

​@AodhanBeag absolutely. He's freaking great in the show. I've always liked his movies (yes, even Doom lol) and thought that he doesn't get the acclaim he deserves.

[@yung_wise5861]

The show makes no sense story wise. His performance + Karl Urban and the production value save the show. Homelander is too hard to kill (can survive a nuke and poison) so you have to make a mcguffin to kill him The government doesn't allow heroes into the military but there are heroes literally everywhere. Legit thousands across America. The fact none have either moved somewhere else or been captured is highly unlikely and then even gets proven to have happened via SoldierBoy and Kimiko. So either America would've already implemented heroes into the military or another army would've. And the heroes weren't actually in the military in Season 3, that was a plot to subdue SoldierBoy and hand him to the Russians (even though I thought they didn't want heroes in other nations armies but okay) We even learn the Russians have run experiments on SoldierBoy and straight up gave him new powers so they have an understanding of Compound V. If you CAN just make a serum that people can take, what's the point of this show? Why can't it just be distributed to people? Butcher tries to kill a baby just to be petty to Homelander. At the court hearing about who gave the terrorists the Compound V, everyone's head explodes and the only people who benefit from that, obviously, are Vought and the Seven yet the government just does nothing after that. Literally nothing happens. If you think about the show for legit 5 seconds, it makes absolutely no sense. Then add all of the extremely biased political commentary and it's actually disgusting to watch.

[@handlethesenuts748]

Your pronunciation of maeve and vought hurts my brain and soul

[@erko948]

for real like did this mf even watch the show?

[@Domzdream]

I’m with you. I have super hero fatigue. But the boys, I keep re-watching a few times over. So good! Well written and well executed

[@lucas82]

The guy who plays Homelander is absolutely fantastic.

[@cr144mc6]

I would suggest you give the show “Banshee” a watch if you like his acting! He plays a freshly freed convict who takes the identity of a newly elected small town sheriff. He doesn’t have super powers in it but he does beat a lot of ass

[@alanwakeup3344]

@@cr144mc6 Loved Banshee, but never realized the lead character was Homelander. Dude looks completely different.

[@cr144mc6]

@@alanwakeup3344 I watched through banshee a few times and it still took me the entire first season on the boys looking at Homelander like “I KNOW I know this dude from somewhere!”

[@silksonic3927]

yes I know Gavin newsom is amazing

[@rahulsetrakian]

has real criminal charges against him too, so like he is capable of doing those horrible things if presented with the opportunity.

[@TheStardustConspiracy]

The success of The Boys comes mostly due to superhero fatigue, as you stated in the video “mainstream marvel is not gonna cut it anymore”. The boys presents a more mature take on the genre and it touches difficult topics without insulting the intelligence of the audience. And ironically it’s the most diverse show I’ve seen and it never tries to virtue signal, they just have well written characters and people like that!!

[@ynraider]

"Alan Moore's: "The Watchmen" did it first. Marvel's "Blade" did it too...but then the racism attacked.

[@lf6079]

"And ironically is the most diverse show ive seen" and the boys is able to do this without feeling panderish or forced. Its so natural and authentic. I truly love this show

[@SolidGoldGuy]

​@R.P.-hw2rq I dont think anyone (most people at least) is saying that the boys killed marvel movies, but rather the other way around. The decline and stagnation of marvel after endgame makes the boys so much better

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

They try to virtue signal ALOT. They did a whole "Homelander is Trump blah blah Storm front blah de blah" Arc.

[@zorrothomas8641]

Your feelings sound hurt ngl

[@kaminobatto]

This analysis is so on point. It is exactly why I LOVE the boys. It just feels like a real story with real multidimensional characters that are much more closer to how the real world works!

[@nojuanatall3281]

Man you make so many excellent points. Keep going! Awesome channel.

[@drewgamer9600]

Dude, I’m almost done the boys season 3 and there are very few shows that have made my jaw drop multiple times. The boys is one of them. Also, I absolutely love how they manage to demonstrate the predatory practices of the modern media. Like how Mauve doesn’t want her image to be about her being gay yet they blackmail her into it anyway. Also Inclusive land is one of the most funny things I ever see. Just the thought of using progressiveness and propaganda and making a fucking theme park out of it is so ridiculous.

[@astrladam4392]

The Boys is 10/10 tv

[@BentHeWiLdER]

The Watchmen started it all. The Boys is taking a page from The Watchmen.

[@thahirshibu5042]

Frenchie's best quote in The Boys is "HE'S TRYING TO GET IN MY ASS" If you haven't seen that scene yet, keep watching.

[@MemoryyOG]

Maeve*

[@crakhaed]

That would actually happen lol. Progressive land is a great bit

[@Homeland3r]

I am Homelander, and I approve of this message.

[@LaKeith_]

he don't approve you allat

[@Sillymonkeycat]

mf didnt you crush someones skull in while you pounded stormfront?

[@jacksputrid]

If I give you milk can I have your cape

[@Mystic2203]

Go drink some milk mf

[@lightesthour]

@@jacksputrid dear god this is an underrated comment. up doot from me!

[@shyanneishot]

me and my boyfriend just binged the boys and I pretty much explained the first part of your video to him while we were watching; the satire is so spot on lol

[@hogscattle7877]

The Boys does come off very realistic. I think that's the twist that makes you look at other comics portrayed on the cinematic screen differently going forward. They also build up off of suspense instead of the viewer expecting action all the time.

[@atharvtyagi3435]

The fun thing about this show is, how much more violent it is compared to any Marvel film and show.

[@atharvtyagi3435]

@dont_Read_Profile_Photo. OK

[@manojramesh4598]

​@dont_Read_Profile_Photo.Don't read my comment otherwise u will be dumb to not reply

[@Zeburaman2005]

It should be self-evident, for how else are you going to tell a gripping story if you don't include high stakes? The worst part is that Marvel's comics (can't say about mainline DC, I am more familiar with the Vertigo imprint) used to understand this principle, retcons and fan favourites' resurrections non-withstanding.

[@BMoser-bv6kn]

It's not more violent, it's just more realistic about what violence actually is. Take the murder-hobo franchise Star Wars. They go out of their way to downplay the misery and suffering our heroes inflict. People don't burst like balloons from their blood boiling when touched by a laser sword. The goons are all faceless; they even went to the lengths of changing the fodder to mostly droids. That exist to die and crack jokes. The "sanitized" violence stuff is so much more destructive and unhealthy: it portrays violence as harmless fun; a good righteous thing. The good guys are good and the bad guys deserve what they get. Classic propaganda for the bandits in power who impose violence on others for their own benefit in real life.

[@fungus_am0nguz644]

Dude the deaths of S03 were some of the best of any superhero film/tv setting. No question.

[@chanmarr8118]

I love The Boys. I remember growing up and thinking how hard it must be to be a superhero and never doing anything wrong. Sometimes it’ll be a last minute save and I’d think “if that was me I’d totally f that up”. The Boys is how I imagined if we had this in the real world. I was so happy to see what I imagined come to life and so well done.

[@geraldyeager7652]

Which is why Sam rammis spider man 2 movie always stuck with me as kid.

[@ImAmirus]

But I dont want to be reminded of the real world.

[@nomorebozo7782]

@@ImAmirus i mean if you think about it enough any franchise you like reminds you of the real world in some level thats just how you make a compelling media franchise

[@Flitalidapouet]

That show was truly fantastic. Very good social commentary well done.

[@barbarahallowell2613]

The Boys was just so incredibly brilliant. Loved every minute and rewatched all seasons with a friend who hadn't seen it. Even better the 2nd time.

[@yeshuaislord6880]

The thing that made Homelander terrifying is that nothing he went through meant anything. He is a hollow character. All the pain, hardship and trials mean nothing not because he simply chose evil but he never considered good in the first place. All those tears, dialogues and thinking were simply about him, not a battle between what is right and wrong. He is not a shallow character but a hollow one. That's terrifying because there is nothing that can truly bind him except the little childish trauma he has.

[@abrahampadilla7191]

Bro what? Have you watched the show. There's no way they would make him the main antagonist and make him hollow. His ego and narcissism slowing coming out while exposing his true character is no hollow character. Homelander and the Butcher are more alike than they are different. He drives the plot.

[@yeshuaislord6880]

@@abrahampadilla7191 That's why I said he is a hollow character not a shallow one. Please reread my comment, so as to not misunderstand my point. Butcher has to struggle with justice and vengeful anger. They are alike in that they are both impulsive in a sense, very very broken deeply, full of anger and rage. But Butcher doesn't go around killing civilians, he still has empathy and compassion. Homelander is empty. He is hollow. He doesn't struggle with justice and evil. He only struggles with his own emotions. For him it's either destroy all hope of him having any feeling of being loved or letting his ego be hurt so he doesn't destroy everything and regret. Homelander never sought after real justice. He never saw the people as anything but ants. He is hollow.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

Brilliant observation and one that I fully understand but couldn't have put it better. Homelander is a black hole, a void that just sucks everything in around him and destroys even the things that he actually *tries* to accomplish/love. He's incapable of love but desperately wants it, but can't actually reciprocate it. He can parody it, but the illusion fails as soon as it comes into conflict with reality or any sort of pushback.

[@mistersir7882]

WRONG

[@lordbn0866]

@@yeshuaislord6880 I would like to make a small correction. he had the option to be good and even TRIED to be good (see the boys diabolical episode 8, which was confirmed canon to the shows timeline), but was so easily discouraged from it you would have to ask whether or not he genuinely wanted to help, or whether he was following his mental conditioning. regardless, I wouldn't call the trauma of being a labrat for half your life childish, but I wouldn't also use it as justification to be a shitty person. anyways, it is no great mystery as to why he turned out this way, and it is astounding that Vought ever thought he'd be anything different. on the matter of comparing him to a void, that is an astute observation. Homelander is what you see, he has no alter ego, no identity other than Homelander. without his fame or his powers, or even his son, he's not a person, just the facade of one.

[@Bobby_boucher31]

The Boys really came out at the perfect time. It was right after Endgame, and the superhero fatigue was setting in for many people. I was very intrigued by the concept and decided to watch it, despite me being over superhero’s at the time. Seeing Robin get dusted two minutes into the first episode made it clear to me that this was something truly special and that everything traditionally associated with a superhero film was out the window. I begged my friends, also tired of superhero movies at the time, to give it a chance. Needless to say, they loved it. Shit, even my girlfriend loves it. And she hates superhero shit. The Boys has an incredible team behind it. From the main and supporting cast, all the way to the cinematographers, it’s “Perfect. Down to the last minute details.”

[@Dabby724]

super-hero fatigue is a thing of the past when good writing is involved. The Boys and Invincible is proof of that.

[@brandonspencer5594]

There is not superhero fatigue It’s shitty writing fatigue

[@adil0028]

Imagine if Watchmen didn't fail, it would be up there with these two shows rn

[@eduardochavacano]

No superhero fatique only Woke Fatique, Corny Jokes Fatique, and Multiverse Fatique.

[@mohammedashian8094]

@@eduardochavacanoyou forgot formulaic fatigue

[@LuvsAutumn8467]

I just started watching The Boys because I kept hearing so much about it. I'm on season one right now and I really like it it's completely bonkers Antony Starr who plays Homelander is so fantastic. He plays the part so well his character is truly terrifying when he gets angry that look in his eyes omg scary. Everyone on the show is fantastic.

[@nullspace9927]

The boys didn't push super hero genre forward. The point of the series is to make it more realistic rather than idealistic as genre is in comics. It's just a twist.

[@greyowlaudio]

The Boys was done by Eric Kripke who did Supernatural (The first 5 seasons, which were the actual full Supernatural story) so The Boys was always going to be a smashing success. The guy knows how to tell a good story, and when Kripke had source material to work from this time, it was even better.

[@francargeric1]

Yeah the first 5 seasons were written so well, everything tied into everything. After season 5 it was blind darts of what can we get them to go through.

[@LVOskarliNE]

OMG, and i thought i have heard that name before, the first 5 seasons of Supernatural are so good. No wonder this show is a big success

[@eligreg99]

@@francargeric1No wonder I stopped watching after season 5. I just couldn’t stay interested anymore

[@LarryDaLobstah]

Also Jensen Ackles killed it as SB. He’s a great actor and can finally move on from Dean

[@chiefdenis]

yooo! i didn't know this but i always loved the first 5 seasons of supernatural and i couldn't stand it after 6 because it felt like they were needlessly extending the story, now i know why, it's been over a decade but damn... now i know why, thanks for this.

[@HeisenbergFam]

Marvel has a nice talent when it comes to disappointing people

[@therealnoobalways]

Your back. Its been a while. Good to see you.

[@kisong1960]

Disappointment implies that people care. They don't. 😂

[@the_techverse]

oh you again bot

[@muhammedlawal8993]

DC being like "am I a joke to you?"

[@spicychad55]

Disney should buy them they have the same values 🤣

[@aaroncornish9955]

Great piece, loved your insightful take on the differences between the two media here. You're missing one thing.. it not the Marvel doesn't know how to reach it audience, it's that those of us that grew up with Marvel are supposed to be moving in and a younger audience is supposed to replace us. This issue now is the infantilization of society now, everyone thinks they are still a kid and capitalism is structured to keep us that way as long as possible. Fans SHOULD be moving on from MCU and watching the BOYS just like back in my day we moved on from Marvel Comics/X-men cartoons and starting reading Spawn or watching the serious on HBO. Bottom line is, there's a lot of grown men complaining about kids movies and they look silly.

[@andywooten622]

I stumbled across the boys by accident scrolling through prime video😂 I had never heard of it. But I think that’s why I absolutely LOVED it because I had no idea what to expect from an adult version of a superheroes story.

[@The.Judging.Crow009]

Marvel's been on life support since Endgame. The boys was just the final nail in their coffin

[@OnePunchKiller]

Marvel is finished People can't connect with the cast anymore Dialogues are repetitive and cringey Moreover unnecessary propaganda

[@manojramesh4598]

​@@OnePunchKillerwithout rdj and chris evans or the character nobody will watch it, it's is only saved by Deadpool life support only, the best movie released by marvel so far with 20 century fox is x men days of future past only from then all were predictable

[@AltezzaGang15]

People will only be back for Spider-Man movies but that’s it

[@Meliodas_TheKing]

@@OnePunchKiller I guess showing superheroes killing other people for some opinions is a good propaganda💀🙏

[@stephenbrenchley8104]

​@@OnePunchKiller agreed, Marvel did this to themselves, should have started again after endgame and built up new characters. Instead they tried to parachute new knockoffs into the boots of the old ones without any character development. They were all handed their powers and completed their "arcs" by realising they were awesome all along 😒. No wonder no-one cares about them

[@dj_nyx8903]

I miss the early Marvel with X-Men and Blade. They had dark and gritty great films. Missed those times.

[@Zeburaman2005]

One thing I really love about Blade is how different it is from its comics counterpart and how much more badass it was. Then again, I've only seen the original character in the Tomb of Dracula series, which started to get a tad monotonous around issue 40 or so.

[@bblwarrantydepartment981]

Too many men! We need a E for estrogen!

[@Zeburaman2005]

@@bblwarrantydepartment981 If only Marvel and DC were run by people who are actually knowledgeable of their respective stables and who didn't try to fit all heroines in the movie variant of the Captain Marvel/Wonder Woman mould or Mystique/Harley Quinn's for villainesses. One thing is for sure, we don't get enough cool villainesses that aren't of god tier power levels, which usually imposes too many limitations such as Hela being confined to her domain.

[@missgalvinsvideos1370]

Fox execs never took comic book movies seriously, and that was why the X-men were so mistreated. Deadpool was an exception. So much potential ruined for fast bucks.

[@joshjonson2368]

​@@Zeburaman2005 what did you expect from a corporation whose aim isn't to write stellar stories but sell as much product as possible to the lowest common denominator?

[@anthonymcgrath]

7:30 - its not just the fact that he's scary and we dont know what Homelander is gonna do... its the fact we STILL haven't seen what he's TRULY capable of... in terms of power but also his destructive capability... like that daydream he has where he just lazer-eyes the entire crowd revolting against his words. The show makers still haven't played their hand with him and i think thats why he's still so scary.. kind of like the Xenomorph in Alien... until we saw it all up front and personal... it was better hidden... not always seeing the thing... its the same for Homelander.. always hold something back.

[@jackp.richardson6415]

I love how they made the protagonists into antihero’s & the villains having relatable gripes with society while still doing unspeakable things

[@benmcreynolds8581]

The Boy's, invincible, and The Watchmen, are exactly what we need to counter act the failures of our modern society. It's so refreshing. Instead of brain dead soulless cash grabs.

[@metelineblue294]

watchmen movie was ahead of it's time

[@benmcreynolds8581]

@@metelineblue294 it really was. I went back and watched it right after watching the newer series and it was really interesting to have more back story about the world/characters, etc. *I enjoyed both takes on the series. I'd like to see more done in that world.. it has so much more potential to be used.

[@daniels.m.6435]

@@metelineblue294 It wasn't in any sense. The comics were. The movie is pretty lame

[@bobjohnson1633]

Watchmen was really terrible with a bad premise and a writer that didn't understand his characters. Rorschach was supposed to be a negative representation of the far right, when in reality, he was representative of what most humans consider morality and justice. The premise of Dr manhattan or alien Holocaust somehow bringing all humans together to prevent nuclear war wasn't reasonable to any human.

[@kap1618]

The issues is Invincible is a grounded homage of Super Heroes, the Boys is made by people who hate Super Heroes.

[@_KingKaii_]

Tbh the thing that causes the most tension for me in the show is the fact that the protagonists are normal humans. I couldn't imagine having super-powered people who can kill me in a second as my enemies. As it is normal people without powers or weapons can already kill you easily

[@Culley91]

Well they started out as normal lol now they’re kinda equal

[@_KingKaii_]

@@Culley91 They can't use temp-V anymore, back to square one now

[@Bioshock1Splicer]

I’m so tired of ads starting at like 2-3 mins into a damn video when I put the phone down or I’m just trying to listen and have to bring it back up to ff through it…thanks!

[@RandomNorwegianGuy.]

The Boys is a masterpiece. From beginning of season 1, to the end of season 3. Homelander deserves a spot among the 3 greatest villains in movie history along side Heath's Joker and Darth Vader. Homelander is so good in fact that I think he is the greatest villain of all time. Despite how good the Joker and Darth Vader is, none of them compares to the Homelander in terms of fear and tension. Every scene where Homelander is with other main cast, I fear for their life

[@dannypitcherenterprises2414]

TV history mate. It's a TV show, not a movie. But yes he is a fantastic villain.

[@HostileAtHeart]

You're confusing me. Are you talking about the portrayal of a character by a certain actor that's great? Or the character itself, no matter who acts it? Because a villain or any character for that matter needs to be able to stand out, even if it's just on paper. A great character doesn't need a great actor to be great.

[@fungus_am0nguz644]

​​@@HostileAtHeartthats incorrect, a great character on paper still needs a great performance from an actor to nail it. Ask Leto when he did the Joker (Joker is hands down the most "beloved" villian of all time) even though its kinda of a dangerous role. Jack contacted Heath Ledger to be careful for that role as both actors get really into the character and for Heath he got deeply addicted to pills for that role since he couldn't sleep. Anyways, yeah a great character is awesome but it still needs an actor to do the lifting on screen.

[@RandomNorwegianGuy.]

@@HostileAtHeart The perfect combo of the Man who plays Homelander and Homelander's character in the show. He was born for that role, in a simular way to how Johnny Deep was born for the Jack Sparrow role. Or how Heath Ledger was born for the Joker role

[@jdogg448]

There are far too many incredible villains, Walter White, Tony Soprano, The Kurgan, Hans Gruber, Agent Smith just to name a few that equal what you've said.

[@jakefoley9539]

Marvel destroyed itself, The Boys just showed up to prod at the corpse with a stick

[@Memorial24]

The Boys was an expose video

[@Shinssei]

This is basically the same as, “You Either Die a Hero or Live Long Enough to See Yourself Become the Villain.” They should just end the Avengers Dynasty atp and start with something new and original. They can’t output like Stan Lee did anymore

[@sanityunknown6958]

Loved the video. Though I laughed when you said "meevee" lmao

[@ar1029]

The boys did “Girlpower” the right way with good writing. “GIRLS GET THINGS DONE” even as a man i was cheering my ass off. The whole show is written so bloody good. Bloody diabolical 😎

[@pasandesilva2295]

Right? I was cheering, "YEAH, kill that cunt!"

[@askandanswer1503]

Cringe

[@ImAmirus]

"even as a man" lol

[@robyfeh4586]

Cringe ass lol

[@MrGrownman455]

Yea ..Girls get it on - homelander.. 😎 Oh girls get it done??? They sure do Ashley 😏 - homelander 🤣

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

I'd say The Boys just affected the MCU, but Marvel was already decaying without it. It was just the last nail.

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

You are definitely a cult follower, anything moon says you agree on, hypocrite

[@Marshall_-nm6qp]

I like the boys because I never know when a character is gonna die, like there's real suspense when they are fighting the antagonist. Like in the marvel movies they still kill characters but they aren't characters that I was connected to. The boys kinda connects you to the characters and then kills them

[@sonufauj]

Marvel signifies the ideal superhero concept whereas the boys signifies what super heroes would be like if they were real😂

[@Holdontight1123]

The boys went from parody to exactly what we want in a superhero show/movie. 😂

[@brandonspencer5594]

For now.eventually people will cry out for a traditional good superhero and not a edgy dark hero movie

[@lucabazooka3631]

@@brandonspencer5594well at least we have invincible for that

[@alyahmartinez7542]

I’m surprised the actor for homelander didn’t get an award for this show

[@elrio404]

he deserves praise and you're so beautiful

[@manubhat2922]

one thing I like is , the twist at the end. In marvel there is always happy ending which is predictable. Also the characters are shown as powerful in some movies and knockoff in others.

[@ArestheAlmighty615]

Not forever marvel is currently doing a re plan and the future seems brighter

[@laxmandutt1109]

The thing about The Boys is that it actually made me feel scared of superheroes/villains and big corporations who hold this kind of power, marvel can't do that anymore. Take Kang the Conqueror for example.

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

Marvel never did that before,it was to make kids believe in these heroes

[@TheLastBeanBender]

@@jeffersonhassan4558 i heard in the comics it was good

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

@@TheLastBeanBender the comics is really good though

[@tariizm1500]

nope Marvel comics sucks when it comes to comics DC is the king Marvel's only movies were good according to people' review imo Marvel movies are lame as well except for Deadpool @@TheLastBeanBender

[@bestabilitywarsers]

Glad the boys is getting the love it deserves!

[@Fabulos1]

I like it, but a series and a movie are are different, which is why they only write 10 episodes seasons.

[@baggings171]

Well season 3 ruined its momentum… so many stupid things happen

[@nicholaseckert5350]

Love how 2003 Hulk made his way in with the rest of the Avengers there 😂

[@danielneubrandt9532]

I was looking for this comment.

[@wxldgamer]

Invincible and the boys carrying when it comes to superheroe media

[@fugginrambo]

If you haven't watched this show I highly suggest you should. Took me by surprise and we couldn't wait to see the next episode. It's crazy, funny, dark, and very well done.

[@orirune3079]

I just wish it wasn't so gory

[@thenerdlord8894]

Too edgy for my tastes. Saw a couple Diabolical episodes and decided it wasn’t for me.

[@siege8467]

Y’all soft, you watch telitubbies or sum?

[@orirune3079]

@@siege8467 No, teletubbies is too scary for me. The baby-sun jumpscare at the beginning gets me ever time.

[@_KingKaii_]

@@thenerdlord8894 ketchup is too spicy for bro

[@ralphlowrey]

They also don’t try to shove every character down your throat, via marketing every individual in the whole cast on billboards and displays everywhere you go. So when a character re-appears that they intentionally made you forget, it’s not something that the whole fandom predicted before the next season.

[@ddsjgvk]

Yeah just imagine the reaction of Spider man appearing in civil war without the trailer. You're just thinking oh no Tony is out matched.... thud... Hi everyone sorry I'm late.

[@roguescister12]

1:08 Sir I think Homelander can hear you…💀

[@apoet9144]

Perfectly said. As a woman, I hate the push for feminist crap in movies. I love the subtle ones like Columbiana, Salt, or WandaVision (Best written Marvel content in my opinion) where it doesn't pay attention to their gender, only the performance. You don't need to tell a woman they're badass, just write a freaking multi-dimensional character without sexualizing the damn woman and having every man hit on her for no reason. That's all we want.

[@tharetsku]

Prime Video hit Marvel with a deadly one-two punch with The Boys and Invincible

[@ionbusman2086]

The end of invincible 😱 can’t wait for season 2

[@tharetsku]

@@ionbusman2086 you and me both, I'm so excited

[@SolveForX]

The Boys doesn’t answer the question “what if superheroes really existed?” The Boys answered the question, “What if horrible people got superpowers and no one good existed to oppose them?”

[@JM-mh1pp]

Exactly. I hate this cynical " everyone is evil" standpoint. In reality heroes would be like celebrities, some evil, some snobbish or rude, but a lot of them still trying to be good people

[@hellsjamfleas]

That's not true. Starlight and other 'hero' characters exist. Even the 'baddies' are nuanced and could be good people in the right situation. The most sinister part of the universe is that these people have powers from babyhood. In a world where people grow up with poor boundaries, parents and authorities who are afraid of them. Important milestones and experiences are missed and these people grow up thinking they can do whatever they like. Most people don't have strong senses of personal morality, they depend on society to tell them how to act. This is especially bad for children, in real life giving kids weapons and the ability to overpower the police would be a hellscape.

[@hammadmaqsood7884]

I disagree,. Most of the superheroes, with the exception of homelander and Stormfront, are shown to be regular people who got powers but become doubebags when they reach celebrity status. Homelander is the only exception and he really is a horrible person but due to the circumstance he also grew up him. The real evil is the ones behind the scenes that manipulate these heroes for their goals and they're the reason homelander is even like this.

[@SolveForX]

@@hellsjamfleas Right, but 1) Starlight is weak af, 2) It took slightly better people injecting themselves to fight against the evil supes.

[@editoe_b]

idiot. the show LITERALLY mirrors real life. CLEARLY theres so much good in our world huh, while people cant even afford a place to sleep.

[@Baffl]

I absolutely LOVE the use of music in The boys it’s one of my favourite parts

[@redjaypictures4528]

Honestly i get a little annoyed when people tout “the boys” for being the first to try the “corrupt superhero” thing before anyone else when DC has been doing that with injustice for YEARS

[@cola_420]

Starrs performance as homelander is just on a whole new level. Such a good actor

[@drakotaz7729]

Can’t agree watched the serial it looks fake and cheap very low quality i don’t get what people like about it even the story is shit

[@ZarChasmOfficial]

​@@drakotaz7729nice rage bait

[@Dyn0saur]

I get the feeling that Moon has just become a content factory pumping out video essays daily that lack soul, I don't know it might just be me.

[@sedaotieno]

Lol like how he did a whole empassioned analysis of Homelander's character, even breaking down one specific scene in one specific episode to marvel at the acting quality... & then said "Vowt" twice in the space of like 20 seconds, like he'd never heard anyone on the show say "Vought" before? 😂😂

[@buster2644]

@@sedaotieno also queen "meevee"

[@TheLazyLiberal]

yeah he is getting kind of sloppy a lot of cursing

[@joshjonson2368]

It's breadtube, what did you expect when making this shit becoming a means of living

[@lidmc796]

@@joshjonson2368 Exactly. Mans gotta eat. And when eating becomes easy. Easy it will be.

[@Moonlightfang13]

I'm so glad he mentioned the mirror scene, God that was unnerving af

[@bigbang5stilllife141]

Anthony Starr acting performance as Homelander is so good that whenever he is on screen i'm on edge what he gonna do?

[@gamegoyang]

The Boy's is an absolute masterpeice! glad you covered it!

[@xhorus88]

I covered it with nut

[@ObossRocks]

Sure if you like political agendas being rammed down your throat

[@kaptainkrampus2856]

Boy's or Boys ... what is it with this inflation of apostrophes in every unfitting occasion 'lately'?

[@lf6079]

Does anyone still remember a movie a while back called Brightburn. That was the first time i realised i prefered a more realistic take on superheros and The boys was just the show i need to fulky realise this. Glad the show is getting all the praise and recognition it deserves.

[@comadoof184]

I definitely did I watched it and man it's terrifying

[@mostsacredstories]

Its nice watching comic movies follow the same kind of development actual comics followed.

[@TheGamingTeacher]

Ever since A.S starred in Banshee I knew he was a new level of actor, he is such a great and versitile actor!

[@P2J2]

The Watchmen did this years ago, glad to see the concept being revived.

[@jumhed994]

The Boys is Watchmen turned up to 11.

[@Fartylipjuice]

I SHOULD PROBABLY START WATCHING THIS. ALL THE CLIPS I SEE ARE PRETTY GOOD

[@yade1234]

04:19 bro who XD

[@safcjoe7062]

Queen Meevey, a strong proud lesbian.

[@Lvish.]

He pronounced wrong ​@@safcjoe7062

[@Maerahn]

'The Boys' is both the breath of fresh air and the kick up the arse the superhero genre needed. It's the first show I've watched in a VERY long time where I couldn't see the twists coming from a mile away - and, even when they DID come out of nowhere to shock me, they still made perfect sense in terms of what had gone before. I'm a writer myself, so it's rare for a show of any genre to achieve that for me anyway, but this show EXCELS at it. And Anthony Starr's performance is superb, with layers of nuance; the fact that, even when he does the most horrific and despicable things, you can still understand and even empathise with his vulnerable moments is a testament to his talent.

[@King_Rowlet]

Before The Boys blew up online, I remember Invincible being the one praised for doing something different with superheroes. Of course it helps since Invincible has some gorgeous visuals, and alongside The Boys, are currently seen as the best of their genre

[@francargeric1]

You mean the comics? The Boys premiered 2 years before Invincible.

[@zalybrainlessgenius503]

That's how art is. Each new movement is a direct reaction on the previous one, be it a positive or negative one.

[@qayssarjrd5399]

Anthony Star has the perfect impression. Eyes that wanna kill you with a shallow smile that seems kinda friendly

[@weirdheriawan]

For genetically modified, rise in the lab, selfish superhuman, Homelander feels more human than both Captain Marvel and Rey Palpatine.. 😅

[@kylereece1979]

"Banshee" is an utterly stunning show that, anyone liking The Boys' graphic novel styled pulped up action, violence and fascinating characters should watch right NOW! Antony Starr is magnificent in it, and its 4 seasons of batshit brilliance is one of the most underrated shows in the last 10 years.

[@KennaDeMerkedo]

Darn, no wonder he looked familiar! Hood, of course...cheers, man. Kai Proctor is such a cool character too.

[@kylereece1979]

@@KennaDeMerkedo Kai Proctor was a fantastic character!! Really , all the characters in Banshee were so rich in detail, persona and OTT brilliance. The show is utter insanity that, I wish would get the attention it deserves.

[@Magnus_VII]

I used to watch that show on one of those movie channels

[@francargeric1]

Season 1 and 2 were one of TVs greatest seasons ever. It lost a little bit of steam towards the end and had to rush the final season but what an incredible show.

[@kylereece1979]

@@francargeric1 First Two seasons are mind blowing, but actually mate, I think season 3 is my personal favourite. 👍 The nail biting episode involving the seige at the Police Station, the Stunning episode involving the attack on the Army Base, and the whole story of Chayton. Utterly Fantastic. I still cant believe how Underrated it is. Action, Action, Action. Thrills, surprises, drama. Engrossing characters right outta a graphic novel- so memorable! But Yes= I agree with what you noted about it being "rushed" at the end. The final season feels very different, a bit detached from the bullet firing, bulletproof previous three. The murder-mystery angle was almost "too ordinary" for the show, and some new gangs/characters were'nt as memorable. But- it was still Bloody Good, and I loved the finale. 👍

[@MrHuNTeR_exe]

8:10 Homelanders performance is one of the greatest I've ever seen.

[@jockmcque3018]

I think The Boys is one of the best TV shows I've ever watched. Funny, vile and dark. Cannot wait for the next season

[@TRX.Official]

When you write down a character who is immature, fatherless, evil and murderous, what you end up getting is a truly terrifying well written villain.

[@06ek]

I fricking love the series "The boys" it's pure satirical nature and dark humor always gets me addicted

[@NattNeverNear]

this comment feels like an AI wrote it, legit ChatGPT ahh comment 💀💀💀

[@9akiraaa]

@@NattNeverNearlmao fr

[@06ek]

​@@NattNeverNear Chat gpt can make mistakes. Consider checking important information

[@NattNeverNear]

@@06ek I was making a joke Homie

[@06ek]

​@@NattNeverNearu know I was sarcastic 😂 when I posted the gpt disclaimer

[@MaoTheMage]

My friend has met a few of The Boys actors at a local convention recently. They often give the middle finger during photo ops, it's great 😂

[@richardstephens9070]

The Boys was written about 30 years, prior to that was Pat Mills' Marshal Law, written in 1987. I would love to the Hero Hunter grace the screen and I think Karl Urban could do it... he played Dredd after all.

[@randomdude_2000]

The scene in the last episode of season 2 where the 3 women are beating up stormfront, and frenchie says" wow i guess girls really do get it done" which was a call back to them creating a female empowerment scene from earlier was just prefect. Its the writing that makes this show excellent, everything else is just a cherry on top.

[@pinobluevogel6458]

I still found that a bit cringe, but at least you can interpret it as making fun of the same endgame scene. Showing, not telling, always works better. Frenchie should have just said nothing and have a surprised look on his face as they start wailing on Stormfront. That would have been a bit more nuanced.

[@Zauchi]

I liked how season 2 mocked the real world media's way of making females look strong but also at the same time made a better story for female empowerment than anything done by real world media. It was like they gave the finger to other companies decision making and also showed them how to do it properly.

[@pinobluevogel6458]

@@Zauchi They do fall into the trap of making most females the powerful heroes and the males very flawed. This is not actually a real world representation and gives off a modern feminist vibe. It is not very empowering to women, as their rolemodel's standards are impossible to attain and it is not empowering to men, as they have only flawed rolemodels to look at. Still, the characters are believable and well acted, which makes these issues not as bad as they would be in a more mainstream hollywood production.

[@Zauchi]

@@pinobluevogel6458 I didn't mean actual real life but our media, maybe I should have wrote 'our worlds media' instead of 'real world media.

[@pinobluevogel6458]

@@Zauchi I understood what you were saying. It was a well made post. I just hooked in about it to give my only real criticism of the show: They are mocking things from real life and from media, but also still doing some stuff that is in the same vein, like I mentioned with the overhyping women and downplaying men.