How Speedrunners Broke Pokemon Moon

[@PulseEffects]

If you're interested in a modern Pokemon Speedrun analysis, look no further than my latest Scarlet Violet video! 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6jHhH1qoN19fMk

[@littenguy]

Cool video

[@armeowgeddon]

noom blast

[@ZexalDSJAsh]

I just love how you keep calling Hau "Hop" when you mentioned his name. lol

[@rizkim2664]

😊😊0pp

[@poptop89]

You can't ignore your mistake forever, Pulse.

[@jonathangilmore37]

I like that petting Popplio and telling him he’s a good boy is a vital step

[@Mr.Bread1422]

I did this to all my mons

[@cristianosavi4024]

He deserves all the pets in the word

[@MTMRBLX]

Somtimes ftiendship is indeed power.

[@TheAxeManOfTheUSSR]

You have to. It’s important no matter what

[@Artificer_]

popplio is the silliest little guy, he must know

[@paxgallery6646]

9:00 "It turns out that rival fights against Hop don't actually need to be won in this game." I think that's because Hop didn't exist until generation 8

[@dugtrioramen]

"Page rider" too lol

[@borb43]

Alolan hop

[@titanictyranitar9571]

@@borb43 nah, hop is galarian hau

[@guestb8389]

Lahprahs

[@iceneko9170]

this makes me slightly more upset with "unfinished licenced pokemon game" for not letting galarian hau take a W. lmao.

[@icewizard3664]

2:53 “We meet our rival Hop.” Lol 😂 If I had a Nickel for every time I heard Hau being called Hop, I would have a lot of Nickels right now.

[@Clairavoya]

Lol, I didn't even catch it the first time but he might as well be Hop

[@N12015]

Tbf they're roughly the same guy. There's a reason people don't like Hop.

[@piranhalettuce]

@@Clairavoya I mean Hop is just Galarian Hau

[@YooranKujara]

@@N12015 they both suck

[@KawaiiBabyTragon]

Hop, Hau, and Nemona are basically the same annoying character lol.

[@Quinntessentialskill]

So, I'm no speedrunner, but from my experience of playing Sun and Moon, you don't have to do that weird stutter step to get past Beauty Crystal on Route 2. Just hug the left side of the slope and you should always get past her. Maybe there's a chance it fails or something, and I just don't know, but I've always done that to skip the trainer.

[@ethanfolz1370]

Probably slower

[@Quinntessentialskill]

@@ethanfolz1370 What's shown in the video is them stopping to shuffle at the corner. That seems a lot slower than just running without stopping.

[@SShadyJess]

I think it was just trying to be as far left as possible

[@ado-]

i've only played sun once but that sounds right that it might be inconsistent, which would make it okay for TAS (tool assisted speedrun, like with save states and stuff) but not too viable for RTA (real time attack)

[@jarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-k1d]

​@@Quinntessentialskill shut up

[@Benzinilinguine]

"They removed the 1.5x xp multiplier for trainers in Gen7" Excuse me WHAT?? And people made fun of the xp share. We had boosted rates the whole time.

[@PulseEffects]

For real! I think GameFreak really just wanted us to grow attached to our Pokemon. 😂

[@Benzinilinguine]

@@PulseEffects I am. I really hope they let us transfer up all 1k pokemon through either DLC or (unlikely) free additions to the dex. I have had 6 or 7 shiny pokemon held hostage in Home for years now.

[@Autokendo17]

@@Benzinilinguine send then to galar or hisui

[@Benzinilinguine]

@@Autokendo17 I skipped Arceus. I think the only "spin-off" I bought was Let's Go.

[@romanscum5678]

​@@Benzinilinguine Big mistake, Arceus is 100% worth your time. Much more than Let's Go, anyway

[@skipperkippz456]

Ah yes, Hop, my favorite Alola character lol Haven’t finished watching yet, but I’m enjoying this video ^u^

[@pokelordomega2414]

Hop = Hau

[@itskdog]

Took me until the victory road fight to realise he was saying Hop. I'm assuming it's intentional given the move name typos seeming intentional as well. (Noom Blast, PsyKick, etc.)

[@piranhalettuce]

@@pokelordomega2414 nah Hau is based unlike Galarian Hau

[@darkmetal2412]

They're both interchangeable to be honest although Hau has the benefit of being more likable

[@Miju001]

I JUST realized you called Hau "Hop" the whole video lmao

[@jasonreinherz7164]

Lmao didn't notice

[@igorlopes8463]

just shows how little you think of him, and how similiar to Hop he is

[@thelanktheist2626]

@@igorlopes8463more like that’s Hop’s problem than Hau’s

[@sleazymeezy]

​@@thelanktheist2626agreed. Hops animations being the exact same is a detriment to his character

[@CursedXyster]

22:24 Psykick actually sounds like a cool move Like Flying Press, but instead of Fighting/Flying, it's Psychic/Fighting

[@poggersman]

"Noom Blast"

[@aurgasmic6739]

They empower a kick with psychic power befoire making contact. GameFreak make it bloody happen please.

[@ttmfndng201]

medicham signature move?

[@CursedXyster]

@@ttmfndng201 i would hope that they distribute it to more pokémon than just medicham but if anything it'd probably be medicham's signature move

[@oxygen3143]

Noobs: I lose to Hop because I’m new to pokemon and still have to learn Pros: I lose to Hop because it’s faster

[@PulseEffects]

Hahahaha truuuue

[@iantaakalla8180]

Everyone knows winning against Hop isn’t worth it, you try against good trainers

[@Random-yg1fi]

Love to see that on a bell curve

[@rocketmidbus6297]

*Sad Hau noises*

[@mothilibu]

alolan hop

[@dgtallgamer]

I feel like it makes the most sense to end the run with the champion and have a side category called "catch tapu Koko" or something

[@stupidhead_2812]

Love that you kept calling Hau Hop because they're literally the same character

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

I dunno. Hau is pretty laid back and is just enjoying the journey, while Hop is dealing with depression from losing too many times.

[@sleazymeezy]

​@@LloydTheZephyrianand that's why he's forgettable

[@Imamotherfreakingavocado]

Finally, Popplio getting the recognition it deserves, Primarina is so powerful, everyone sleeps on it fr

[@ferrucciocaracciuolo8139]

Sleep with it.

[@mothlure]

its cause decidueye is sick as hell

[@WahWhoopie]

@@mothlure and incineroar scares vgc players to this day

[@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy]

The recognition it... DESERVES?! PEOPLE SLEEPING ON IT?!?! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?! THAT THING ENDED UP STEALING THE SPOTLIGHT FROM DICIDUEYE(AND the incinaroar too really)! yea... rowlet WAS the most popular out of the box... but then what happened? their final evolutions happened. . . that's when people got to see the stats. . . POPPLIO then ended up being the more loved one going forward. . . . there was even a time where it even managed to steal ou... primirina's amazing typing combined with its amazing move pool AND getting it with hp fire... it was a cannon the completely decimated all of ou.... though, it then had a falling out at some point. people then just stopped using it. don't really know what had actually happened, but it appears it ended up succumbing to power creep, the metta ended up changing AGAINST it and it ended up being less favored. The recognition it deserves... yea right. . . . I ended up hating popplio with a passion for what it ended up doing to my favorite... rowlet. . . of course, I kinda ALREADY disliked it from right out of the box(together with MANY others at the time), but what popplio did... was PERSONAL. . . and it just ended up being my most HATED starter than any other from ALL games so far... for even as good as it was... I NEVER used it simply out of spite. . . The fact it ended up being used in speed runs was NEVER a reality check for people to have suddenly realized just how good it was... its a reminder. . . . and a never-ending KICK in the nads to EVERYONE who was on the "Team Rowlet" boat... like me. . . . . Though, what I found REALLY funny about ALL of this was. . . Incinaroars inclusion to smash bros ultimate. this series usually tends to nominate POPULAR characters from the pool of games that each fighter hails from. litten(being my SECOND favorite btw, so people please put down your torches and pinch forks, lol)was the UNDERDOG of the popularity contest... its ALMOST as if they WEREN'T paying any attention to EVERYTHING that happened with the popularity poles that happend in the sun and moon games and just went with incinaroar just cuz... he looked cool. of course... being a pokemon that was based off of a wrestler-type figure, yes he was the best pick. but it was REALLY WEIRD because it FEELS like they picked him under the assumption that that was the one they THOUGHT was the most popular... it was more like they were saying "Popplio... Rowlet?! NO DUMB, DUMBS! THIS was the one you should have loved the most!". so this choice was just completely biased in general... litten WASN'T the most popular... it was rowlet. . . then popplio just came along and ended up usurping them both in the end(lmao).

[@MidnightCapricorn2696]

​@@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy who hurt you

[@TheCanadianGuy56]

Super late but I had a similar experience with Resident Evil 8, it's definitely a fun game when you first play it, however once you start speed running a bit, it becomes such a unique experience.

[@alexspeedwagon3701]

It seems odd to have to watch the credits just to run away from a pokemon at the end. Isn't after the credits "postgame" anyway?

[@PulseEffects]

So fun fact, that section of the run has since been removed! It was a silly part of the run and I'm glad it's gone.

[@justsomewheel9379]

@@PulseEffects I don't know how it ever got included in the first place

[@miles6492]

Yeah, it's boring for the viewers, boring for the runners, there's no showcase of skill to speed up that portion... No good reason to include IMO. @@justsomewheel9379

[@Briggetchu25]

@@justsomewheel9379cause the credits don't roll till after the tapu fight iirc

[@imnemesis1698]

Tell me you studied this game, without telling me you studied this game. Insane details - I really enjoyed watching it.

[@SakhotGamer]

And yet wrote Psykick in the psychic tm breakdown

[@AlectriXSharpness]

Called Hau Hop

[@ohreally69]

Studying the game is literally the number one thing everyone does in a speedrun,what did u expect?

[@TheDevilishangel123]

sarcasm?

[@sleazymeezy]

And la prus at 12:55 wtf is a la prus. I know of lapras but not the former.

[@pulsargeist]

13:11 "scald is an 80 base power move" display: 85 base power

[@SuperNerd9695]

Also when he showed moon blast it says "noom blast"

[@brettrossi034]

So glad i see you playing this game for a video! Although Platinum has always been my #1 favorite of all the games, Sun/Moon/USUM are definitely my 2nd favorites! Cool to see how it would look for a speedrun setting

[@matthewryan2887]

I feel that the Tapu Koko fight being included in the timing is just unfair, because it just adds unnecessary RNG to the run, not something that any speedrunner wants to deal with at the end of a 5 hour run

[@JoelTheParrot]

Good, the Popplio line, mostly Primarina, is my second favourite evolution line in all of Pokemon next to Chatot

[@CynningSeline]

Hello, PMD fan (Y'know, unless you like Chatot for different reasons)

[@JoelTheParrot]

@@CynningSeline I'm interested in PMD rfor that reason but I just like Chatot because they're the best Pokemon, and my favourite, too.

[@BitterHeart51]

Honestly I've always considered it my least favorite of the three starters

[@JoelTheParrot]

@@BitterHeart51 fool. wrong. bad. hater. numbskull.

[@BitterHeart51]

@@JoelTheParrot I don't hate it I just like the wrestling cat and archer owl better then princess seal

[@hallowlitten1018]

12:56 are you ok? Nobody ever says lapras like that It’s Lapras not Lepras

[@dullededge1395]

youtubers say pokemon names wrong on purpose so you comments and the video gets boosted.

[@GamePerFrame]

Made me pause the vid to find this comment.

[@Dukstless]

To be fair, pronunciation in English is an unholy abomination.

[@Xachpro5475]

Arcneena

[@raikitsunagi]

Lepras and Lugigi, the best fighting pokes

[@PulseEffects]

I've done BW1 and Moon. Which speedrun should I explain next?! 👀

[@pokelordomega2414]

Gen 2?

[@HessSR]

bw2! fire red! ultra moon! let's go pikachu/eevee :D

[@coolethanlegoguy]

Let's Go or HG/SS Manipless 👀

[@Thyyyyyyyyme]

The Sword/Shield run at GDQ a few years ago (or maybe just one year?) was pretty great, so would love an explained for that!

[@iceball8314]

Omega ruby/alpha sapphire

[@Acquiescense]

Pokémon moon was my first pokémon game, and i LOVED IT although my team was shit

[@LuluNewNew]

Same! My team was: Incineroar Gumshoos Gyarados Alolan muk Alolan persian Alolan dugtrio

[@ZorotheGallade]

I love that the first thing to do in the speedrun is to feed your Pokémon jellybeans as fast as possible to make them love you.

[@Pain.-]

Petting your pokemon is also important, cause when theyre good friends with you, they often dodge attacks or keep that 1hp in battle, when you otherwise would've lost or sth

[@Yranb11]

This is yet another fantastic piece of content. I really loved the editing and how clear everything is put together. Amazing job Pulse!

[@Yranb11]

Oh and just for you to know, the end cards are in the wrong place :)

[@twikki9071]

As someone who loves gen 7 and intends to do another playthrough soon, thank you :]

[@TheAzulmagia]

I think I remember seeing someone lose a Nuzlocke to Hau, and then the game just continued anyway despite the fact they lost and they were completely baffled how to handle that.

[@lechonk135]

If you ever feel useless remember llima used an ultra ball on a lvl 9 yungoos

[@Drianikaben]

clearly just in the postgame, trying to finish the dex

[@octolockg5059]

I used a Master Ball on a Pelipper back in Ruby 12 years ago.

[@aurgasmic6739]

What about when my masterball fucking FAILED? I thought they were guaranteed catches. Nah this thing just popped back open. Should have seen my jaw drop.

[@sleazymeezy]

​@@octolockg5059truly a hero for the ages

[@octolockg5059]

@@sleazymeezy I had just seen the AG episode where some kid used other Pokémon in a Pelipper's mouth to shoot out Vine Whip and Flamethrower so of course I was gonna try teaching it those crazy moves.....

[@yoshiflash579]

The 3 insane Pokémon required for this speedrun: The broken starter Pokémon The mascot legendary itself pikipek

[@quechl2508]

this video is great! im a huge fan of pkmn moon (its my preferred version of the two) and ive alway been curious about gen 7 speedrunning. wonderful work :)

[@Bulkynemesis4534]

The timing of this video is amazing since Lillie and Lunala come out next reset in Pokemon masters in 12 hrs

[@thefinalskarm1754]

I remember back in the day people went "wtf do you mean I could've run from the koko, now my koko is shit for vgc!" GF sent out a shiny tapu-koko with HP ice (though it would be more optimal to use the other one due to HP mind games!) pretty damn quickly. So yeah fk the 6 minute wait for koko.

[@veevobyte511]

the old 3ds chugging like a goddamn train in battles with more than two pokemon is just iconic to me for this game...

[@Robochuck]

It would be a more fitting end if the timer finished at the HOF

[@portalbob340sc]

Definitely would be more interesting to end off after the HoF, since the alternative is basically just waiting 6 minutes for a coin flip, which seems like a very uninteresting waste of time.

[@Jerekul]

Laprás 😂 12:55 Never heard anyone pronounce it like that in my life

[@HessSR]

awesome vid! keep it up (only watched first 5 minutes so far but i love it)

[@HessSR]

btw you should do how do speedrunners speedrun bw2 one day that would be sick

[@box-un6sn]

new drinking game: take a shot every time pulse calls hau "hop"

[@asuuki2048]

I’ve actually wanted to begin speed running Pokémon Moon (or any of the Alola games) due to whacky it is!! Also yes, it is extremely dumb that the speedrun goes all the way up to Tapu Koko lol.

[@Defahn]

I knew Popplio was the best mon to rush through gen 7 with! Sure, it was Ultra Sun, but I inadvertently followed a lot of the routing here, including the X items

[@FamilyStoriesInc]

12:56 ah yes, my favorite sport *LAPROSSE*

[@metallisgames]

"Page Rider" I get to ride a BOOK in this game?!?

[@aolivep]

the fact that im twenty minutes in and brionne is still just soloing its way thru is funny to me. im here for it tho

[@blubudubbel]

10:06 "We get access to the Page Rider" instead of the Ride Pager. that is so funny to me :D

[@redictor]

22:38 ah yes, the fight that with one single one-shot on my torracat made me start hating that 'rival' with such a burning passion i got the epiphany that those fights are against random wild pokes i can't be arsed to catch

[@DJ4461]

You keep calling hau "hop" I keep calling hop "hau". We both know that they are the exact same as eachother.

[@bennyk384]

“How speedrunners broke Pokémon moon” No glitches :/ I feel clickbaited

[@TimothyGod]

I mean, the title never specified glitches or hax, that's on you for assuming. Broken can also mean, just abusing game mechanics making it "broken"

[@bennyk384]

@@TimothyGod that’s fair, I think I’m just too used to seeing a spiffing Brit title saying “I broke the game” and him absolutely shredding the game to pieces using glitches and exploits. He didn’t really exploit anything in this video tbh. But yeah, ig that’s on me lol

[@KawaiiBabyTragon]

@@TimothyGod A vanilla playthrough isn't "breaking" anything. I feel baited too. 🤦‍♀️

[@kyleschermerhorn8861]

While it’s really dumb to end with running from Tapu Koko, I really think that’s just funny so I like it.

[@dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos]

You're calling Hau "Hop". Too much Gen 8 Pulse.

[@abacussonkus8964]

Alolan Hop

[@healgoth]

@@abacussonkus8964 other way around, it’s Galarian Hau

[@TimothyGod]

@@healgoth but isn't gen 7, where hau is, alola? Meaning he would be alolan hop?

[@heylolp9]

I zoned out so much during my first Pokemon Sun that I truly never recovered from it It just made me fall out of love with any new pokemon games (till legends arceus cane out) I have played and beat these games, but I truly have no memory of it, or desire to learn yet your videos keep getting me interested in speedruns of pokemon games that, otherwise, would fully not interest me All this to say, your videos are amazing

[@daviddyer3543]

One of two wastes of a cameo in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. Dexio and Sina could have helped us stop Team Skull, but they chose to f**k off and enjoy their vacation. And don't get me started about Looker...

[@TFD_]

4:57 I'm not sure if I'd use those set of words unless there was something happening behind the scenes lmao

[@BuRble.0]

12:52 my favorite pokemon "Laprosse"

[@JosephRiveraSantiago0617]

Ever wanted to have unskippable cutscenes? Pokémon's got it covered

[@neoblackheart746]

I wonder if using an Ultra Ball to catch Lunala and then a master ball to get Koko would be faster.

[@user-xu1ce4ri4h]

Not a speedrunner but I don't think so, considering you'd have to sit through the shaking Pokéball animation and mash through all the post-capture textboxes (Pokedex entry etc.)

[@TheMiningMeteor]

12:53 no way it’s my favourite Pokémon, *L’pras*

[@latioshunter]

Never noticed Hop was just... optional in existing. And man, there are way too many wild pokemon encounters.

[@ThePenguinsKing]

My favorite move -- Noom Blast! 32:16

[@mrrfyW]

MOOM

[@KingKevin108]

It is very bizarre that you have to wait until the scene after the champion battle is over

[@bodkin8914]

Greatly enjoyed the video. Thanks a lot ^^

[@sagacious03]

Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@SparioVailen]

Wait I've been asking for rival fights that aren't necessary for years. Turns out we already had it in Aloia! I think the next step is to make a rival that gets stronger the more you lose to him.

[@mattanatior3484]

0:52 WELL I LIKE LONG VIDEOS SO THATS FINE

[@Mavii_Not_My_Name]

32:19 Noom Blast?! "a special attacking move that makes a NOOOOOOOOM sound when you use it"

[@Codsniper253]

I just can't get over the way he said the name Lapras at 12:59 , it hurts my soul

[@DBasedAlex]

Glad popplio gets love in speedrunning since it’s the least popular

[@zachwesterfield5182]

Take a shot every time he says “Busted”

[@actualcoolcat1784]

“Lapras” love the accent on the name LOL

[@igorlopes8463]

I knew that losing the first pichu battle against Hop was ok, but I didn't know the others were also fine, though I'd rather beat Hop and keep my pride up if I am not going to speed run, I wonder if that works in the Ultra games.

[@DocDrowsy]

The way you prounced Lapras hurt me a little haha

[@warmwater9509]

my favourite speedrun strategy: Drugs copious amounts of Drugs

[@melindacloninger9071]

Ahh yes the best rival hop. wait a minute!!????

[@michiqueques]

i found a shiny while watching this

[@plushdragonteddy]

so glad for these comments tbh, because i really spent a while thinking “wait i could have SWORN the swsh rival was called hop, but like he must not have been if this guy is also hop, right????” dhhfbfbdb

[@MyNewSoundtrack]

The final Tapu Koko seems an utter and complete waste of time, 6 more minutes of cutscenes just to run away seem super pointless imo I'm no speedrunner tho Btw, super awesome video!

[@littleevsamoyed7130]

The second pokemon game my dad bought for me was Pokemon Sun. (A.K.A: I was at the store looking for a pokemon game with Growlithe/Arcanine in it and found pokemon Sun, knowing nothing about the game beforehand and that was literally the only reason I got the game.)

[@KinnieCali]

put some respect on my boy hau!!! he walked so hop could run !!!!

[@hideous0135]

I like how he called Hau Hop.

[@madelineconner9069]

calls Hau “Hop” for the ENTIRE video 💀

[@thegreatscribbles960]

Jeez I never realized how much this game lets you lose and still continue I feel like this game would let you lose to the champion if they could

[@SquishyOfCinder]

13:00 that is the weirdest semi-correct pronunciation I have ever heard of Lapras.

[@lordcorporal4247]

Sun and Moon was when I returned to Pokémon after my red/blue/gold/silver childhood. It was cool to see different things but I dunno about this Gen. - z moves were silly to me - kind wanted to have gyms I didn’t enjoy what they did - I really didn’t like the tapu legendaries BUT the ride mechanism was cool and the ultra beasts are cool and was a cool intriguing storyline that I remember kept me reading and not skipping.

[@llamason7044]

Amazing video, in my opinion this is easily the most underrated game in the series.

[@alonsans]

22:21 am I reading that right?? Psykick??

[@Kalosianfire]

Would it be faster to pick up PikiPek for the Lurantis trial, to mitigate the Solar Blade damage?

[@Kalosianfire]

Lead Brionne and then switch on the Solar Blade

[@PulseEffects]

That's been thought of. Dieing is too slow unfortunately.

[@Kalosianfire]

@@PulseEffects ah unfortunate

[@CursedXyster]

32:14 ah yes, NOOM BLAST

[@kaitones3212]

I didn't even realize that the rival in Gen 7 should've been Hau with how similar they are LMAO

[@shieldon530]

I like the funny way you spelled some of the moves popplio would get I loled at noom blast

[@meowie7684]

22:20 ah yes pshykick my fav psychic type move

[@human3225]

I agree, Psykick is an amazing move. Congrats on 6th in any%

[@larhyperhair]

Hau. Though admittedly they have all the same animations

[@PickledL]

32:20 noom blast

[@jollydino2416]

Personally, I feel like the Tapu Koko fight is justified being included because it's a mandatory fight that occurs before the credits roll - wild Pokemon or not.

[@thezpmc9859]

It really took me 30 mins into the video before I noticed "Hop" I guess I made this joke too many times myself lol

[@extrodanaryanonomas5188]

this game was my first pokemon game and i just now realized xitems dont normally give a plus 2 cause i only really used them for ultra sun elite 4, so yeah my last 3 years of pokemon have been a lie

[@Your_random_dude]

It been 3 years now that i lost pokemon moon idk where it is but i hope i will find it one day 😔

[@pappadarappa]

As a speedrunner I had to watch on 2x so I could actually take in the information

[@dr_doritotf2305]

It makes me so happy seeing people play the alola games, even if they try to see the least possible, I just love these games so goddamn much

[@LocalMaple]

As a Critter, I made my voice sore with all the “mmakinmway.”